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Freemasonry (and possibly paranormal?) general Anonymous 08/19/2017 (Sat) 10:31:36 Id: 7cc153 [Preview] No. 51940
This thread serves as a spiritual successor to >>45041

The wiped "Entry level Masonry General" thread can be found in jewgle cache
If it goes down I'll provide the htm file I saved in this thread
The thread in the cache contains all the links to files that are still kept in the endchan database, I don't know if they're permanently here or not but YOU can help everyone by making a backup of everything.

low effort shitposts, personal opinions with no arguments (muh cognitive dissonance) and off-topic discussion is not allowed here


Anonymous 08/19/2017 (Sat) 17:25:03 Id: 1e890c [Preview] No. 51960 del
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This criminal organization was quite involved in "shutting it down" and general kosherization of chans and right wing groups. (See exhibit "Jim" , their shilling efforts, stealing/corruption of memes and various spammers activating when Freemasonry is mentioned) They also make a good portion of political Zionists and often serve a role of controlled opposition to cultural Marxist groups. This is known as artificial dialectics, a process which is meant to keep the same groups in perpetual power while not advancing any real goal, idea or synthesis (because actual dialectical synthesis would lead us to something like political program of NSDAP and revelation of higher truths, which is their greatest nightmare). This is dialectics on Judaism, which can be considered to be a corrupting principle. If cultural Marxists are "democrats" , then Freemasons are "republicans" . This could also be a "historical conflict" between French and English Freemasonry, which both serve the same "God" , god of the Jews and his chosen people.


Anonymous 08/19/2017 (Sat) 17:50:14 Id: 1e890c [Preview] No. 51961 del
Let's start with a profile of a typical Freemason. They mostly come in two shapes, one is usually an "inheritor" , an individual that's coming from a wealthy and/or influential family and uses Freemasonry as a networking tool to keep or increase his wealth and influence. While having practically zero personal value, contributions etc. and usually zero redeeming qualities that make him any different from a hood nigger, he is convinced that his undeserved wealth is a sign of his "royalty" and "being chosen by God" (The latter being reinforced by the very ancient Egyptian tyrannical codex that's taught at higher degrees of Judeomasonry, and the flattery they receive from a second type of a Freemason)

Their beliefs, while being absolutely illogical and absurd, don't prevent them from presenting themselves as champions of reason. How do their Jewish handlers manage to convince them that they are close to God (with a capital G) while in reality they are the most profane Mammon worshipers still eludes me, but I intend to find out.

Second type of a Freemason is a typical opportunistic scoundrel with no actual beliefs in anything, ready to fuel the self-delusion of the first type in hope to attain some wealth and/or political power. They see themselves as great Machiavellists, while in reality they are the most predictable people of all. Of course, that won't stop them from selling themselves as supremely moral people, which is another great contradiction when it comes to modern Freemasonry.


Anonymous 08/19/2017 (Sat) 18:14:22 Id: 1e890c [Preview] No. 51963 del
What about their metaphysical beliefs? They start with common grounds shared by Abrahamistic religions (Christianity, Judaism and Islam), start narrowing them down, and when they get a pure Talmudic extract, they try to apply some druidic practices that they have managed to steal from other groups during the centuries. Essentially, it's Talmudic Judaism for goys.

I wouldn't be surprised if they promise them to reincarnate as Jews in the next life if they are good goyim enough in this one.

As their membership is mostly made of people of very low "spiritual magnitude" , there is not much that can be considered "paranormal" The murderous and satanic rituals that they allegedly perform are most likely a typical mafia "loyalty operations" or just a bunch of psychopaths with too much power who have no accountability in front of law.


Anonymous 08/19/2017 (Sat) 18:16:49 Id: 8a0a5e [Preview] No. 51964 del
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In case the freemason returns who was shilling hard that masonry is "not" controlled by jews (but insisted they shouldn't exclude kikes and hated National Socialists for "bullying" freemasons), I'll post some things I addressed from the Duterte thread before it was slid off the board.

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Albert Pike stated "All truly dogmatic religions have issued from the Kabalah and return to it; everything scientific and grand in the religious dreams of all the Illuminati, Jacob Boeheme, Swedenborg, Saint Martin, and others, is borrowed from the Kabalah: all Masonic associations owe to it their Secrets and their Symbols." Morals and Dogma page 744. Lucifer, the Light-bearer! Strange and mysterious name to give to the Spirit of Darkness! Lucifer, the Son of the Morning! Is it he who bears the Light, and with its splendors intolerable blinds feeble, sensual, or selfish Souls? Doubt it not!" Morals and Dogma page 321. Masonry was founded by King Herod Agrippa at the suggestion of Hiram Abiud, with the consent of Moab Levy, Adoniram, Johanan, Jacob Abdon, Antipas, Solomon Aberon, and Ashad Abia in the year 43 A.D. The original name of the ideology was the "Mysterious Force." All its founders belonged to Judaism. Prior to the founding of Freemasonic Lodges in Europe, jews in most Western European nations were by-and-large restricted to ghettos and forbidden from participation in almost all social activities of influence in their host nations - especially political. They had to exercise their power and influence in hidden ways. The Jews created created the Lodges with the platitudes of "the brotherhood of humanity" and "men from every religion coming together with the goal of the common welfare of humanity", and lure in non-jewish men of prominence with promises of "secret knowledge" and as being part of the "good ol boy club." The Lodges act to promote tolerance of jews and allow jews an entrance into society and positions of power, as well as indoctrinate and influence non-jewish men into jewish ideology. These 'useful idiot goys' are lured in by deception, slowly indoctrinated and brainwashed into Jewish Satanic "new age" doctrines, and finally entrapped by blood oaths from rebelling against the order and exposing it for what it is.

The responsibility for the war, the defeat, and the peace terms were blamed on the opponents of the war and on those politicians who favored the democratic process, and a Masonic Lodge definitely operates on a democratic process. The Lodges in Germany grew quite well until the National Socialist party began seizing control of power in 1925, at which point there were more than eighty two thousand Masons and six hundred thirty two Lodges in Germany. German Lodges at this time were considered places of coalition for like-minded people, beyond political disagreement and economic misery. They were elite, above the average people's suffering. Tell me when this starts to sound inclusive, non all-encompassing and very familiar. They did attract new members after 1925, yet they never had the social standing or clout that American or British Lodges had due to the growing atmosphere of anti-Semitic attitudes in Germany post 1925. At that time Freemasonry in Germany was divided, because there were the Old Prussian Grand Lodges and the Humanitarian Grand Lodges. The Old Prussian Grand Lodges deliberately excluded Jews from membership. The Humanitarian Grand Lodges did not. There is the distinction. There was also a movement among the Old Prussian Lodges to drop the Jewish story-line for the degrees to make them more Aryan in nature. The Humanitarian Grand Lodges members were mostly members of political parties that were in the middle left of the political spectrum. On April 7th, 1933, Herman Goring (the National Socialist Minister of the Interior) met with the Grand Master of the National Lodge of Freemasons of Germany and a law was passed that would reorganize the Grand Lodge:
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Edited last time by AdolfHitler on 08/19/2017 (Sat) 18:21:46.


Anonymous 08/19/2017 (Sat) 18:19:59 Id: 8a0a5e [Preview] No. 51965 del
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“The Order will return to its original shape. From today on, the term National Lodge of Freemasons of Germany, which was taken on in the 18th century will no longer be valid. The order will henceforth have the name that corresponds with its nature: German Christian Order of the Grail of the Knights Templar. With this decision, the order has ceased to be a Masonic corporation.” With the Creation of these new “German Christian Orders” the rituals of German Freemasonry had changed with it. This was something that the more nationally oriented Old Prussian, and a few of the Humanitarian Lodges, had wanted in the first place. With this edict in place, the Old Prussian Lodges replaced some of the Old Testament legends with Germanic legends and the mythology of the Holy Grail, the saga of the Germanic God Baldur took place of Hiram Abiff, and the Pillars were now named Light and Folk and were no longer Jachin and Boaz. The checkered floor no longer showed Solomon’s Temple but was now a representation of Germany’s Strasburg’s Cathedral.
On September 6th, 1933 this ordinance was enacted:
“Brothers who are not of Aryan descent are to be honorably discharged from the order immediately, persons with Aryan descent are in this ordinance defined as persons whose parents and grandparents were Aryans, and for Brothers who are Jewish, point one will be enforced.”
“In June 1933, at a secret meeting in Frankfurt am Main, Grand Master Leo Muffelmann and some of his close companions decided to move the Symbolic Lodge to Palestine. The Symbolic Grand Lodge of Germany in Exile was constituted on November 17, 1933, when British authorities gave the needed permission.”
And so, with those high ranking members who were afraid for their lives and jewish, they fled. I'm sure they were composed of a certain percentage of those jews who were deported to the now modern nation of Israel (and were claimed to have been "gassed" to death).


Anonymous 08/19/2017 (Sat) 21:40:48 Id: fb3a1c [Preview] No. 51967 del
Ok there is multiple vectors to corroborate masonic supremacy in history.
>the bavarian illuminati
>jacobin french revolution
>the civil war (along with jews and jesuits)
>the "Trump" phenomina
>The creation of Isreal as a nation by chaim weisman a 33rd degree mason
>9/11 war on "terror"
>21st century false flag terrorism
>crisis actors of the 21st century
>the fake gay movement to show phallic supremacy
>The industrial revolution and forced "freedom through labor"
>establishing extrajudicial terrorist groups that deflect from true justice like the KKK
>The knights templar
>the assasins
>the hashish cults

The main point is that these people are the seemingly regular people who kike out for jews. You see the fake white nationalists not hiding their powerlevel? They are hiding their powerlevel because they are masons pretending to be both white nationalists and upset bystanders.

Pic related is masonic things and nothing else.There is no nazis because nazis are anti masonic. These are fake nazis. These are masons.


Anonymous 08/19/2017 (Sat) 21:56:24 Id: fb3a1c [Preview] No. 51968 del
Freemasons have a motive to keep a jewish power structure. That is why in hollywood you see nothing but jews. This is a cooperation between jews and masons. Masons keep the jews in charge to deflect from themselves who are responsible for jews being in charge. They want to do this until there is a noticable inequety for goyim. The masons are the people who sell out the nation and have normal people hate jews because they can not see how the jews are in power. Jews are only in power because of freemasons. There is no other way the kikes could be allowed to do this except to act as the most hated people for being the faces of industry.


Anonymous 08/19/2017 (Sat) 22:02:25 Id: fb3a1c [Preview] No. 51969 del
Also albert pike created the KKK
ALBERT PIKE HAS A STATUE IN WASHINGTON DC

HOW COME THAT IS NOT BEING DEMOLISHED

THEY ARE MAKING THE PEOPLE FIGHT OVER MASONIC STATUES BEFORE THEY TRY AND KILL ALL OF US AND MOST PEOPLE ON THE PLANET


IT DOESNT MATTER HOW MANY PEOPLE IN COSTUMES MARCH THEY ARE ALL MASONS THEY DONT MATTER THEY NEED TO BE EXPOSED. JIM WATKINS IS PROOF THEY ARE TRYING TO SOW THE ALT RIGHT AND THIS STUPID KIKE SHIT.


Anonymous 08/19/2017 (Sat) 22:34:50 Id: 411188 [Preview] No. 51970 del
>>51968
>a 300 year old fraternal organization controls a 2,500 year old ethnic mafia

This is what end/pol/ Masonniggers actually believe.


Anonymous 08/20/2017 (Sun) 00:13:38 Id: fc5d1e [Preview] No. 51974 del
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>>51967
Mount rushmore is masonic
>>51970
The mafia is an acronym for Mazzini's association for assassination and insurrection. Its not a mafia its older than that. Now what where the nights templar? The poor old knights of the temple of solomon. The masons do not control jews but they PROTECT THEM DAMMIT. THAT IS HOW THEY INCREASE THEIR CLOUT EXPONENTIALLY.


Anonymous 08/20/2017 (Sun) 00:40:45 Id: fc5d1e [Preview] No. 51975 del
I like to be edgy to myself when looking at 4chan and stuff and think that "the jews are a fucking psyop". Unfortunatley thats not the case, The jews are why masons are a problem. Whatever power the masons have is because of kikery. So it doesnt even matter if I am so fucked up in the head I want to stop these people getting away with it instead of the jews. regardless of what me or anyone thinks the jews are a powerful cartel. Ask patrice you know what I am talking about? I am talking about the gabagoole. We are talking big cheesehead jews high off of ultraviolence adrenochrome. We are talking about the jews using masons to breed children to collect adrenolized blood. The blood libel only could survive in europe and white nations by infiltrating the guilds by taking over the lodges. The jews are making waffle wafers out of our children and the waffle is the square and compass. The kikes put on the masonic aprons to make the wafers and that is whats going on. We white people are monopolized and the civil war was meant to stop prosparity for non jews. Only the good old boy masonic jewlovers where wealthy in the south. Only the kike enabelers have their say. ONLY THE KIKE ENABELERS GET TO TALK ABOUT THE JEWS TO 4 and 8 CHAN


Anonymous 08/20/2017 (Sun) 02:12:02 Id: ab0713 [Preview] No. 51976 del
>51975

Bold!


Anonymous 08/20/2017 (Sun) 02:47:25 Id: 9e7ce7 [Preview] No. 51977 del
linking to some posts that should get you started
Egyptian masonic satanic connection
>>>/horror/2

A made-for-tv movie in the 70s pictures life in a secret society as good as anything. the brotherhood of the bell
h ttps://w ww.youtube.com/watch?v=ib_40ah1GhY
Bill cooper dixie conspiracy
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compilation of fuckery
>>>/horror/971
Satanic ritual abuse and secret societies
>>>/horror/206
occult forces (1946)
>>>/horror/210

James Wright testimonies
>>>/horror/211
>>>/horror/212
>>>/horror/214
>>>/horror/217
>>>/horror/279

masonic underground world
>>>/horror/289
Scarlet and The Beast - Vol I - History of the War Between English & French Freemasonry - by John Daniel
>>>/horror/159

compilation
>>>/horror/953
masonic police deception
>>>/horror/1038


Anonymous 08/20/2017 (Sun) 03:04:57 Id: 9e7ce7 [Preview] No. 51978 del
The Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion on freemasons

Protocol 3 #7 "We appear on the scene as alleged saviours of the worker from this oppression when we propose to him to enter the ranks of our fighting forces - Socialists, Anarchists, Communists - to whom we always give support in accordance with an alleged brotherly rule (of the solidarity of all humanity) of our social Masonry. The aristocracy, which enjoyed by law the labor of the workers, was interested in seeing that the workers were well fed, healthy, and strong. We are interested in just the opposite - in the diminution, the killing out of the goyim. Our power is in the chronic shortness of food and physical weakness of the worker because by all that this implies he is made the slave of our will, and he will not find in his own authorities either strength or energy to set against our will. Hunger creates the right of capital to rule the worker more surely than it was given to the aristocracy by the legal authority of kings."
Protocol 4 #2 "Who and what is in a position to overthrow an invisible force? And this is precisely what our force is. Gentile masonry blindly serves as a screen for us and our objects, but the plan of action of our force, even its very abiding-place, remains for the whole people an unknown mystery."
Protocol 9 #2 "The words of the liberal, which are in effect the words of our masonic watchword, namely, "Liberty, Equality, Fraternity," will, when we come into our kingdom, be changed by us into words no longer of a watchword, but only an expression of idealism, namely, into "The right of liberty, the duty of equality, the ideal of brotherhood." That is how we shall put it, - and so we shall catch the bull by the horns ... de facto we have already wiped out every kind of rule except our own, although de jure there still remain a good many of them. Nowadays, if any States raise a protest against us it is only pro forma at our discretion and by our direction, for their anti-semitism is indispenable to us for the management of our lesser brethren. I will not enter into further explanations, for this matter has formed the subject of repeated discussions amongst us."
Protocol 11 #7 "For what purpose then have we invented this whole policy and insinuated it into the minds of the Goy without giving them any chance to examine its underlying meaning? For what, indeed, if not in order to obtain in a roundabout way what is for our scattered tribe unattainable by the direct road? It is this which has served as the basis for our organization of secret masonry which is not known to, and aims which are not even so much as suspected by, these "Goy" cattle, atttracted by us into the "show" army of Masonic lodges in order to throw dust in the eyes of their fellows."
Protocol 12 #17 "Even nowadays, already, to take only the French press, there are forms which reveal masonic solidarity in acting on the watchword: all organs of the press are bound together by professional secrecy; like the augurs of old, not one of their numbers will give away the secret of his sources of information unless it be resolved to make announcement of them. Not one journalist will venture to betray this secret, for not one of them is ever admitted to practice literature unless his whole past has some disgraceful sore or other .... These sores would be immediately revealed. So long as they remain the secret of a few the prestige of the journalist attacks the majority of the country - the mob follow after him with enthusiasm."


Anonymous 08/20/2017 (Sun) 03:07:32 Id: 9e7ce7 [Preview] No. 51979 del
>>51978
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Protocol 15 #1 "When we at last definitely come into our kingdom by the aid of coups d'etat prepared everywhere for one and the same day, after definitely acknowledged (and not a little time will pass before that comes about, perhaps even a whole century) we shall make it our task to see that against us such things as plots shall no longer exist. With this purpose we shall slay without mercy all who take arms (in hand) to oppose our coming into our kingdom. Every kind of new institution of anything like a secret society will also be punished with death; those of them which are now in existence, are known to us, serve us and have served us, we shall disband and send into exile to continents far removed from Europe. In this way we shall proceed with those "Goy" masons who know too much; ; such of these as we may for some reason spare will be kept in constant fear of exile. We shall promulgate a law making all former members of secret societies liable to exile from Europe as the center of rule."
#4 "Meantime, however, until we come into our kingdom, we shall act in the contrary way: we shall create and multiply free masonic lodges in all the countries of the world, absorb into them all who may become or who are prominent in public activity, for these lodges we shall find our principal intelligence office and means of influence. All these lodges we shall bring under one central administration, known to us alone and to all others absolutely unknown, which will be composed of our learned elders. The lodges will have their representatives who will serve to screen the abovementioned administration of Masonry and from whom will issue the watchword and program. In these lodges we shall tie together the knot which binds together all revolutionary and liberal elements. Their composition will be made up of all strata of society. The most secret political plots will be known to us and fall under our guiding hands on the very day of their conception. Among the members of these lodges will be almost all the agents of international and national police since their service is for us irreplaceable in the respect that the police is in a position not only to use its own particular measures with the insubordinate, but also to screen our activities and provide pretexts for discontents, et cetera."
#5 "The class of people who most willingly enter into secret societies are those who live by their wits, careerists, and in general people, mostly light-minded, with whom we shall have no difficulty in dealing and in using to wind up the mechanism of the machine devised by us. If this world grows agitated the meaning of that will be that we have had to stir up in order to break up its too great solidarity. But if there should arise in its midst a plot, then at the head of that plot will be no other than one of our most trusted servants. It is natural that we and no other should lead Masonic activities, for we know whither we are leading, we know the final goal of every form of activity whereas the Goyim have knowledge of nothing, not even of the immediate effect of action; they put before themselves, usually, the momentary reckoning of the satisfaction of their self- opinion in the accomplishment of their thought without even remarking that the very conception never belonged to their initiative but to our instigation of their thought."


Anonymous 08/20/2017 (Sun) 03:09:27 Id: 9e7ce7 [Preview] No. 51980 del
>>51979
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Protocol 15 #6. "The Goyim enter the lodges out of curiosity or in the hope by their means to get a nibble at the public pie, and some of them in order to obtain a hearing before the public for their impracticable and groundless fantasies: they thirst for the emotion of success and applause, of which we are remarkably generous. And the reason why we give them this success is to make use of the nigh conceit of themselves to which it gives birth, for that insensibly disposes them to assimilate our suggestions without being on their guard against them in the fullness of their confidence that it is their own infallibility which is giving utterance to their own thoughts and that it is impossible for them to borrow those of others .... You cannot imagine to what extent the wisest of the Goyim can be brought to a state of unconscious naivete in the presence of this condition of high conceit of themselves, and at the same time how easy it is to take the heart out of them by the slightest ill-success, though it be nothing more than the stoppage of the applause they had, and to reduce them to a slavish submission for the sake of winning a renewal of success .... By so much as ours disregard success if only they can carry through their plans, by so much the "Goyim" are willing to sacrifice any plans only to have success. This psychology of theirs materially facilitates for us the task of setting them in the required direction. These tigers in appearance have the souls of sheep and the wind blows freely through their heads. We have set them on the hobby-horse of an idea about the absorption of individuality by the symbolic unit of collectivism .... They have never yet and they never will have the sense to reflect that this hobby-horse is a manifest violation of the most important law of nature, which has established from the very creation of the world one unit unlike another and precisely for the purpose of instituting individuality.
#9 "Death is the inevitable end for all. It is better to bring that end nearer to those who hinder our affairs than to ourselves, to the founders of this affair. We execute Masons in such wise that none save the Brotherhood can ever have a supicion of it, not even the victims themselves of our death sentence, they all die when required as if from a normal kind of illness. Knowing this, even the brotherhood in its turn dare not protest. By such methods we have plucked out of the midst of Masonry the very root of protest against our disposition. While preaching liberalism to the Goy we at the same time keep our own people and our agents in a state of unquestioningly submission."


Anonymous 08/20/2017 (Sun) 03:35:50 Id: eb91a0 [Preview] No. 51981 del
>>51964
Dem out of context quotes. Almost like you're trying to lead the narrative out of fear.

>>51969
>Also albert pike created the KKK
Sadly no. He didn't even hate darkies as much as people insist. He helped the Prince Hall lodges, too.
>ALBERT PIKE HAS A STATUE IN WASHINGTON DC
Yea, for his accomplishments as a lawyer and civil rights worker who helped Indian tribes.
>HOW COME THAT IS NOT BEING DEMOLISHED
It is, actually.


Anonymous 08/20/2017 (Sun) 04:09:54 Id: 8c6372 [Preview] No. 51982 del
>>51981
Wonderful. Oh boy that makes me so happy. While we are at it lets take down the Shriner statues because they are cultural appropriation to Moroccans.

Matter fact why is masonry still allowed ? There should not be a hidden patriarchy that is under this umbrella of white privilege. Masonic lodges need to be demolished because they act as a crucible of male white privilege. This is an exclusive society that caters to the rich and is not inclusive to trans people. My god this is the pig meme these are the /leftypol/ pigmen. These banksters have put their white supremacist symbol that is racist because the all seeing eye is never a minority's mocha eye color. Why is the masonic eye a white mans eye? The eye is over the pyramid that is antis-emetic because its implying they want to enslave the jews again to build their new world order. White supremacist culture. Look at these white supremacists on the money. Andrew jackson bye bye! Here comes whoopie goldberg on your 20 dollar bill. ERASE MASONRY FROM HISTORY.


Anonymous 08/20/2017 (Sun) 04:52:21 Id: 8a0a5e [Preview] No. 51983 del
>>51981
Fear? What the fuck do I have to be afraid of? Wait. Are you the pro mason who shilled in the Duterte thread? There must be some reason you're starting this petty e-attack right now.


Anonymous 08/20/2017 (Sun) 05:01:17 Id: eb91a0 [Preview] No. 51984 del
>>51982
> Oh boy that makes me so happy.
Weak antifa troll.
>Matter fact why is masonry still allowed ?
Because the state is not yet so afraid of it's people to prevent them meeting together.

>>51983
>What the fuck do I have to be afraid of?
White men working together, apparently.
>e-attack
Wut.


Anonymous 08/20/2017 (Sun) 06:03:23 Id: 8a0a5e [Preview] No. 51986 del
>>51984
A) I am a white man, and B) Freemason lodges aren't "white nationalist" like the Duterte thread freemason shill you act so much like said, when he admitted there are nigger lodges and they're openly accepting of kikes. I see you're back to shill more for the masons.


Anonymous 08/20/2017 (Sun) 06:38:27 Id: eb91a0 [Preview] No. 51988 del
>>51986
> I am a white man
Yet you argue against "your" interests? Curious.
>Freemason lodges aren't "white nationalist"
That's where you're wrong, kiddo. Read the rituals.
> there are nigger lodges
Yup. Segregation in way of appeasement to avoid having to actually accept them. Try using critical thinking.
>and they're openly accepting of kikes
In the Craft degrees? Any faith is acceptable (except in Scandinavia/Germany) because of what it teaches.
Might shock you to learn that kikes are even allowed to sit in Catholic Churches. Doesn't mean it aids them.


Anonymous 08/20/2017 (Sun) 06:51:39 Id: 8a0a5e [Preview] No. 51989 del
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>>51988
I argue against freemasonry, which is obviously jewish controlled as indicated by the same Protocols that you "claim are false" just as the jews do? Yes. Against my interests? No. See, I'm not a kike, so freemasonry is not in my best interest.
>>51978
>>51979
>>51980
"Protocols not real" is a very common shrieking of the jews. Kikes run the Catholic church as well. None of this "shocks" me. Mason shills, as well as the many others we've had here, are a minor annoyance.


Anonymous 08/20/2017 (Sun) 06:57:31 Id: eb91a0 [Preview] No. 51990 del
>>51989
> which is obviously jewish controlled
Describe how, then.
>as indicated by the same Protocols that you "claim are false"
The protocols don't even say how, though. Funny that. And they're not false. Just faked. Again, critical thinking.
>freemasonry is not in my best interest.
The option of it is. Hell, the option of any wall against zionism is. But (((they've))) convinced you to want to tear it down. Clever, huh?


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h ttps://w ww.intmensorg.info/msn.htm
h ttps://macquirelatory.com/Freemasonry%20Truth.htm
h ttps://w ww.whale.to/b/knox_h.html


I FOUND A RELATION TO ART THROUGH THE ORDER OF QUETZALCOATL h ttp://stichtingargus.nl/vrijmetselarij/quetzalcoatl_en.html
h ttp://stichtingargus.nl/vrijmetselarij/quetzalcoatl_r2.html

They talk about the 3 Monkeys which james alefantis has a painting of in his bedroom


Anonymous 08/20/2017 (Sun) 07:55:26 Id: fb3a1c [Preview] No. 51993 del
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>>51992
forgot pics


Anonymous 08/20/2017 (Sun) 08:00:17 Id: fb3a1c [Preview] No. 51994 del
>>51993
They have an Artisan and master artisan degree. So now we know there is an artist masonic outlet.


Anonymous 08/20/2017 (Sun) 08:08:13 Id: fb3a1c [Preview] No. 51995 del
>Although the Order of Quetzalcoatl is a forum for fun and fellowship, it has a serious side: philantropy towards the Shrine Hospitals for Children Transportation Fund.
>philantropy towards the Shrine Hospitals for Children Transportation Fund.
>Transportation Fund.
>philantropy towards the Shrine Hospitals for Children Transportation
>Children Transportation

Sounds a fuck of a lot like these artists are trafficking children.


Anonymous 08/20/2017 (Sun) 08:37:01 Id: eb91a0 [Preview] No. 51996 del
>>51993
Shame it's so new there's only like two Quetzalcoatl lodges so far. Sounds really cool.

>>51995
Is your health system so backward that you're not familiar with ambulances?


Anonymous 08/20/2017 (Sun) 10:17:40 Id: 1e890c [Preview] No. 51997 del
>>51967
Before you start lumping all of those groups together, you need to learn how memes propagate. Just because someone uses certain symbols and preaches certain things doesn't necessarily make him a follower of those. Most modern Freemasons are completely clueless about the symbols they use.

But yes, Masons do play a central role of controlled opposition. Which is why we need to focus on them as much as on Jews. Besides, their beliefs and mindset are practically identical , which is why you will hardly find a line where a Jew ends and a Freemason begins.

>>51968
Same point stands here. It doesn't really matter who controls who, or if they have created some kind of symbiosis. A Freemason would gladly sell out his nation because his family is more important to him. According to their logic, it's perfectly acceptable to sell your own people into slavery, if you are going to receive enough money to have your family get ahead of others. And if you don't have a family, then you will at least be able to afford nice things and easy life I guess. That's why they will never be compatible with nation states, and that's why they were usually the destroyers of nation states in history.

Struggle is completely alien to these people, hence why they will never be complete beings and will always be slaves to Mammon.

>>51969
Masonic statues need to be demolished because they are symbols of tyranny and slavery of nations. They also serve more sinister purposes, but I won't dwell into it now.


Anonymous 08/20/2017 (Sun) 10:33:17 Id: 1e890c [Preview] No. 51999 del
>>51974
Actually Knights Templar stopped protecting kikes after they learned certain things, they even became their greatest opponents.

That's why the kikes persecuted them and stole their wealth later, and today they have their own KT organizations that have almost nothing in common with the original ones.

These orders possessed certain knowledge and initiations that could theoretically make a man free from the kike god, and powerful enough to resist his minions, which is why they have to be controlled by any means, and people joining them corrupted into serving the Jew instead of opposing him.

>>51975
Those must be some pretty damn tasty waffles man. It's funny how your post pretty much resembles the truth, but you just had to ruin it with schizo ramblings.

One of their most effective shilling tactics is to take something that is essentially true, then add a lot of fantasy bullshit to it in order to make it laughable to the ordinary person. Most popular conspiracy theories got shaped like that.


Anonymous 08/20/2017 (Sun) 10:33:40 Id: eb91a0 [Preview] No. 52001 del
>>51997
>Besides, their beliefs and mindset are practically identical
Pretty sure Jews don't promote Euro-centrism, nationalism, meritocracy, monarchy, and anti-Judaic themes.
> A Freemason would gladly sell out his nation because his family is more important to him
Family does come above almost all, but doing that would be quite detrimental to the family.
>According to their logic, it's perfectly acceptable to sell your own people into slavery
No? Please, list some canonical sources attesting to what you're saying, though.
>Masonic statues need to be demolished because they are symbols of tyranny and slavery of nations.
>t. starbucks dwelling liberal


Anonymous 08/20/2017 (Sun) 11:52:25 Id: 4159ad [Preview] No. 52002 del
I have been using proxies and they only work for a few hours at a time.so I have a few ID's in this thread.
>>51996
>ambulances
Ah shit yea that makes sense. But to be fair the ritual goes into the three monkeys and see no evil hear no evil speak no evil goes hand in hand with mischief.There is only one skull and bones lodge at yale. That and the zaza hotel room see the skull and bones only has 2 lodges too that doesn't make them defunct. In this case I would agree it seems like a niche thing. The jesters on the other hand is a shrine affiliate that has engaged in prostitution and all of that.
>>51999
> then add a lot of fantasy bullshit to it in order to make it laughable to the ordinary person.
Considering I have trouble with being coherent I am glad that this is the main concern. At least something is being conveyed.I usually don't consider concern trolling is in this case a good point only because there is a lot of baggage with these conspiracies which makes people roll their eyes. The masonic conspiracy is the most understood on a basic normalfag level but most ridiculed and that serves your argument that there is no room for schitzo talk when the reality is bad enough.


Anonymous 08/20/2017 (Sun) 15:11:40 Id: 1e890c [Preview] No. 52008 del
>>51981
>civil rights worker

Was he a Soros of his times?

>>51982
No way, Freemasons were always promoting liberty (as in sexual liberalization of women and feminism), fraternity (among each other of course, people need to network with like minded individuals in order to make the world a better place he he he), and equality among all races and nations in order to create a tolerant society free of hate that's close to D-G :>)

See, I can take things out of context too.


Anonymous 08/20/2017 (Sun) 15:28:41 Id: 1e890c [Preview] No. 52009 del
>>51990
Freemasons and other popular fraternal orders are among the greatest champions of Zionism. Especially British Freemasonry that's literal heir to a priory of Sion, which is a stalwart protector of the Jewish royal family (muh bloodline and predestination) that's oppressing native Britons for centuries. I mean London is one of, if not THE center of international Jewry and finance.

>>52001
Hereditary monarchy and meritocracy are mutually exclusive. And Freemasons don't really promote any of those, except sometimes superficially as a PR stunt. Maybe you'd like to provide some examples?

>anti-Judaic themes
Such as?

>Family does come above almost all, but doing that would be quite detrimental to the family.

Not at all. You can marry your son to a rich Jewess and get a "royal" family while every other family gets blacked and turned into a slave mongrel caste. As a result, your family gains tremendous advantage over others, and that's the sole purpose of your existence.

Masonic symbols are quite xenophillic, I'm sure modern liberals would love them.


Anonymous 08/20/2017 (Sun) 16:11:53 Id: eb91a0 [Preview] No. 52012 del
>>52002
>But to be fair the ritual goes into the three monkeys and see no evil hear no evil speak no evil goes hand in hand with mischief.
Not a Quetzalcoatl member myself, so i can't really comment on the usage, but in other cases it's not always so.
>The jesters on the other hand is a shrine affiliate that has engaged in prostitution and all of that.
Yea, and they were expelled for it, but technically they didn't break laws of the country they were in. Just moral turpitude.

>>52008
>Was he a Soros of his times?
Not so much. He just found the redskins interesting and tried to help them. It's how he became a brigadier general; by having gotten to know them and was able to lead them.

>>52009
>Freemasons and other popular fraternal orders are among the greatest champions of Zionism.
Yea? How?
>Especially British Freemasonry that's literal heir to a priory of Sion
That's a French thing. Catholic too. Or Cathar if you're still fooled by Baigent, Leigh, and Lincoln who did shoddy research.
>which is a stalwart protector of the Jewish royal family
No, they suggested Merovingian (for some reason), with a connexion to Christ Himself.
>Hereditary monarchy and meritocracy are mutually exclusive.
False. It's just done in a different order. It's the only suitable form of government for European nations.
>And Freemasons don't really promote any of those,
I might advise reading the rituals. Emphasis is put on monarchy as being the best method of governance, and it shows it in the ceremonies. Namely in the wisdom and pragmatism of kings, and the folly of democratic systems.
>Such as?
Exposing their shames. Demonstrating why they were cast aside by God for their sins and showing that Christianity is the realm of the deserving.
>You can marry your son to a rich Jewess
If we all existed in a vacuum where no consequence would reach your family, that would still not be the case, as it would be tainted by the Jewess.
>Masonic symbols are quite xenophillic
Yea? How?


Anonymous 08/20/2017 (Sun) 18:49:45 Id: 1e890c [Preview] No. 52029 del
>>52012
>Yea? How?

Is this the part where you shamelessly ignore that greatest promoters of Zionism, and members of political and economical establishments that do everything in Jewish interest happen to also be Freemasons? US, UK, even Israel have very strong Masonic lodges, not to mention various royal families (including Arab ones). That includes the Jewish House of Saud. And Rothschilds who have a raging hardon for Monarchy, with their kike spawn as royalty of course. They even tried to jew Russians into accepting one of them as supposed heir of Romanovs. Freemasonry goes well in line with the general "wise Jewish bankers ruling the world as kings" conspiracy.

>That's a French thing. Catholic too.

To an extent, but protestants were always the ones most susceptible to it, as well as greatest Judeophiles (if we don't count handpicked quotes of Luther) They are also the most degenerate denomination that was a main enabler of modernism, globalism etc. Protestants are essentially satanists (of the materialistic kind) that wear crosses for aesthetic appeal. Just look at countries most struck by plagues of modernity. They were predominantly Protestant.

Cathars were just caught in political schemes of the day, they certainly didn't believe in "royal blood" , quite the opposite.

>No, they suggested Merovingian (for some reason), with a connexion to Christ Himself.

And Jesus (who was not a true Christ but an impersonator) was a Jew. Hence why Merovingians were kikes by blood. After using Christianity to infiltrate European royal courts as supposed "heirs of Christ" , they enabled their Jewish brethren to take over other countries and institutions in Europe, and later the world. Knights Templar learned of this scheme and found out the real truth behind "Christ", that's why they got persecuted and almost destroyed later.


Anonymous 08/20/2017 (Sun) 19:04:07 Id: 1e890c [Preview] No. 52030 del
>>52012
>False. It's just done in a different order. It's the only suitable form of government for European nations.

Meritocracy doesn't work in two directions. A person that starts at bottom has to show merit in order to advance to the top, while the person that starts on top can, but doesn't have to show merit, i.e it's not certain. Hence why the top-down approach is the one most detrimental for the general well being of society, which history has demonstrated countless times.

I don't want to make this thread about monarchy, but i'd really like to see your arguments why one of worst forms of government is the only suitable one for European nations. Maybe if you are a Jew who thinks that goyim must have an unelected and unaccountable Jewish royalty with an absolute power over them.

Also, you might want to observe those rituals in a slightly less literal sense, you know, maybe consider that your mind is a "temple" and the "king", and not that you need a physical temple and a literal king.

>Christianity is the realm of the deserving.

Doesn't Protestantism redeem everyone who "accepts Jesus" no matter what atrocities he has committed in life?

>Yea? How?
It has a general middle eastern vibe about it.


Anonymous 08/20/2017 (Sun) 22:17:10 Id: 9faf70 [Preview] No. 52049 del
>>52030
>Doesn't Protestantism redeem everyone who "accepts Jesus" no matter what atrocities he has committed in life?
Only in the descriptive sense, idk where you draw this active agent bullshit form. Maybe you have a proselytizing "vibe" to yourself.


Anonymous 08/20/2017 (Sun) 22:29:45 Id: 9faf70 [Preview] No. 52053 del
>>52030
>why [monarchy] is the only suitable one for European nations. Maybe if you are a Jew who thinks that goyim must have an unelected and unaccountable Jewish royalty with an absolute power over them.
Europeans don't enjoy having a jewish puppet democracy on top of a meritocracitc gauntlet of functional feudalism, but instead pockets of democratic meritocracy under an acknowldged philosopher king who has been bred and groomed for the job. That's why European army is such a popularly disliked concept, while USA funnels niggers into trenches so that only the most ruthless ones will survive to come back to disseminate their broken shellshocked minds back into the general population. European patriots at the very least don't chant "Eee you! Eee you!" in their nationalist rallies like a bunch of cucked rubes.

For the time being.


Anonymous 08/20/2017 (Sun) 22:59:37 Id: 9faf70 [Preview] No. 52057 del
>>52053
The underpinnings of these views lie in the continental philosophy, rather than in the goddamn fucking downright churchillian analytical philosophy. Americans are always like "ooh, that system displays heterogeny, it must be broken" towards anything more complex than the layout of their butt-hairs, so they insist on having these fantastical ideals about "real democracy" and whatnot always having to be some kind of universal constants. Running a county must be exactly like running a house or else it's wrong, and running a nation must be exactly like running counties or else it's wrong. It breaks muh democracy if under the house there's a colony of ants that didn't get to vote what colors the walls were painted in, because all they cared to do was some dumb ant shit like staying alive with ant honor. It's blindness to the fact that there's an event horizon to what you can internalize from a single vantage point, so analyzing the whole lot in a bulk is just going to be a futile fantasy. But analytically inclined people stick to it ideologically, and insist that what happens beyond the curtain doesn't happen at all, until they finally break and become conspiracy loons so they can deal with the massive accrued cognitive dissonance.


Anonymous 08/20/2017 (Sun) 23:30:48 Id: 9faf70 [Preview] No. 52061 del
>>52029
>the general "wise Jewish bankers ruling the world as kings" conspiracy.
This is exactly the homogeny I'm talking about: oh no, monarchs may sometimes end up being jews! We must ensure world leaders are systematically (((democratically elected presidents))) like Trump so they will certainly go suck on a wall in Isreal every time without fail.

Just fucking self-actualize and roll the dice of fate instead of hiding behind this veneer of an absolute (((system))) that can never be wrong. You can farm the same potatoes under any kind of king, and not a single sort of aryan non-jew leader will give you free lunch every single time.


Anonymous 08/20/2017 (Sun) 23:59:44 Id: 4280f6 [Preview] No. 52062 del
>pockets of democratic meritocracy under an acknowldged philosopher king who has been bred and groomed for the job.
At least we know it's not Aristotelian, Alexander the Great failed to do what he sought after. The question is what philosophy is said philosopher king promoting?


Anonymous 08/21/2017 (Mon) 00:03:20 Id: eb91a0 [Preview] No. 52063 del
>>52029
>Is this the part where you shamelessly ignore
No, just ask for examples. And more specifically examples of them doing these things in a Masonic capacity. Especially when many of them aren't Freemasons, but GOdF members.
>And Rothschilds who have a raging hardon for Monarch
Then why were they so keen to overturn it where possible?
>To an extent
Dude, it wasn't even real. It was a product of Pierre Plantard wanting to screw with people.
>Protestants are essentially satanists
>strawman.png
No one sect is wholly innocent, sadly.
>Just look at countries most struck by plagues of modernity
True, but you're ignoring that it's because they've also flourished economically and intellectually.
>And Jesus (who was not a true Christ but an impersonator) was a Jew.
Wrong twice over. God has no religion nor ethnicity, and your heresy is based on bally well nothing but feels. Hell, it's identical to the jews who refused to convert because they didn't like Christ condemning them.
>Hence why Merovingians were kikes by blood.
They really weren't. They were Franks and Gauls. The "Heirs of Christ" thing is a recent invention (again by Plantard).
>Meritocracy doesn't work in two directions.
Except it does. Yours is one option, and the monarchical method is another, where they start with position and then demonstrate their merit. It's actually easier, because they already have access to tools to ensure they're able to be the most meritorious.
>but i'd really like to see your arguments
Because we need strong centralised leaders who represent each nation. Not media pawns who are naught by hydra.
>unelected
That is better, aye.
>and unaccountable
Unlike "elected" (((politicians))) monarchy is more accountable. You know where the buck stops, and they can't be "voted" out, and replaced with themselves.
>Jewish royalty
Nope. The monarch should be of the nation.
>Doesn't Protestantism redeem everyone who "accepts Jesus"
That's Christianity. Not just "Protestantism."
>It has a general middle eastern vibe about it.
Oh. Well that clears it up for certain. Just curious, because the vast majority of the symbols were taken from British operative guilds and churches. But hey, I won't let the truth get in the way of your feels.


Anonymous 08/21/2017 (Mon) 00:46:03 Id: 4280f6 [Preview] No. 52065 del
>>52063
>Especially when many of them aren't Freemasons, but GOdF members.
Let me fix that for you: Especially when many of them aren't Freemasons, but Grand Orient de France members, of which the GOdF is the largest of several Masonic organizations in France and the oldest in Continental Europe. It was formed out of the older Grand Lodge of France in 1773, and briefly absorbed the rump of the older body in 1799, allowing it to date its foundation to 1728 or 1733. It is generally considered to be the mother lodge of traditional Liberal, or Continental Freemasonry

Your special snowflake version of "Antient and Accepted Freemasonry" is the only form of Freemasonry you "accept", yes or no? Are they political schisms or religious schisms? (Pick one)

British Monarchism is based on Anglicanism and tall tales of Joseph of Arimathea bring the dead body of Jesus into England and stupid shit like the Stone of Scone to be the Stone of Jacob and various other grade A bullshit tied to Scottish mythos that were adopted into British Freemasonry as well as British ISRAELISM and other Victorian era bullshit which was a movement that convinced that Jews were evil and so because they are evil and want to be left alone, that they would go to Samaria which in order to get on their good side, they would recognize the stupid myths that the British Monarchy are descendants of Israelites, of the tribe of Ephraim, Dan (serpent tribe), and of Judah.


Anonymous 08/21/2017 (Mon) 00:54:46 Id: eb91a0 [Preview] No. 52066 del
>>52065
>Your special snowflake version of "Antient and Accepted Freemasonry" is the only form of Freemasonry you "accept", yes or no?
>snowflake
Pretty sure they're the snowflake version, bro. Having changed the rules to suit (((them))), and becoming unrecognisable to actual Freemasonry. They might as well be playing baseball with tennis racquets and having the bases in a straight line whilst calling themselves the MLB.
>Are they political schisms or religious schisms? (Pick one)
Neither? It's institutional. There are certain landmarks to which all Freemasons abide. The GOdF (and other fake lodges) ignore them. That's why they accept women, invalids, atheists, gays, and actively involve themselves in politics.
>British Monarchism is based on Anglicanism
Pretty sure it's the other way around. Henry VIII and all.
>mythos that were adopted into British Freemasonry
Yea? Where is that mentioned? At best i'm expecting Anderson's long abandoned Constitutions.


Anonymous 08/21/2017 (Mon) 20:38:26 [Preview] No. 52084 del
Here is a great example of how they raped society
h ttp://maoliworld.com/forum/topics/a-look-at-corporations-from-the-hawaiian-islands-a-review?xg_source_=

>An example is how they have bullied their criminal claims and utilize the sheriffs, police, and other paid off people to "strong arm" the true land owners. Genocide issues of our families and others oral histories have been documented.

>At the time of the wrongful dethronement of our Queen in 1893, Masons/Freemasons played a major part in criminally assuming what was and is not theirs.

These people raped the kings of Haiwaii and you will pay for this you bigoted fucks.


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you must always hold yourself in readiness, if called upon, to cut his throat from ear to ear, pull out his tongue by the roots, and bury his body at the bottom of some lake or pond. Of course, all this must be done in secret, ... but then, you know you must live up to your obligation, and so long as you have sworn to do it, by being very strict and obedient in the matter, you'll be free from sin. (Edmond Ronayne, "Masonic Handbook," page 74)

>and bury his body at the bottom of some lake or pond.
>a Canadian student at the University of British Columbia in Vancouver, was recovered from a water tank
>and bury his body at the bottom of some lake or pond.


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>>52091
Its not exact but its possibly a co-masonic form of the grand hailing sign of distress. I think I saw her put 2 fingers on her left bicep also.


Anonymous 08/22/2017 (Tue) 06:21:17 Id: ca76d0 [Preview] No. 52093 del
>>52084
h ttps://w ww.youtube.com/watch?v=1i-0KvQ5qEU

Hawaiian history is a mess, learn about James Cook and Kamehameha I-V before learning about Queen Liliuokalani and King Kalakaua. Mercantilism screwed over Hawaii into how it is now. h ttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mercantilism It's ironic how America has a form of Mercantilism, but now it exists as "Neocolonialism" through mega corporations. It sort of was like that in the Kingdom of Hawaii. h ttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_Five_(Hawaii)


Anonymous 08/22/2017 (Tue) 08:08:54 Id: ca76d0 [Preview] No. 52094 del
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As soon as Hitler came to power in Germany on January 30,1933 he ordered that several anti-Masonic pamphlets be printed by the government and circulated among the citizenry. Among these official Nazi documents were: "Annhilation of Freemasonry", "Freemasonry, Marxism, and Judaism: The Cause of War", and the "Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion".

On April 7, 1933 Hermann Goering, one of Hitler's top deputies (who had once considered becoming a Freemason) held an interview with Grand Master von Heeringen of the "Land" Grand Lodge of Germany, and told him "there is no place for Freemasonry in Nazi Germany."

According to Coil's Masonic Encyclopedia, there were 638 Masonic Lodges in Germany with 80,000 members, working under authority of 10 Grand Lodges. The largest of these were the Grand Lodge of the Three Globes, the National Grand Lodge of all German Freemasons, and the Grand Lodge Royal York of Friendship.

The Enabling Act (Ermächtigungsgesetz in German) was passed by Germany's parliament (the Reichstag) on March 23, 1933. Using the Act, on January 8, 1934, the German Ministry of the Interior ordered the disbandment of Freemasonry, and confiscation of the property of all Lodges (including all libraries and Masonic artifacts) ; stating that those who had been members of Lodges when Hitler came to power, in January 1933, were prohibited from holding office in the Nazi party or its paramilitary arms, and were ineligible for appointment in public service.

In 1934, Hermann Goering, as Premier of Prussia, ordered the dissolution of the three Masonic Grand Lodges in Prussia, the oldest and most influential in Germany. They were The Grand Lodge of the Three Globes, All German Freemasons, and Royal York of Friendship.


On August 8, 1935, as Führer and Chancellor, Adolf Hitler signed a decree demanding the immediate arrest and imprisonment of all persons who had not resigned from Masonic societies. All who were suspected of being Masonic leaders were executed, while mere members were jailed. The same evening of Aug 8, 1935 Hitler had announced in the Nazi Party newspaper, Voelkischer Beobachter, the dissolution of all Masonic Lodges in Germany. The article accused the Fraternity and World Jewry of conspiracy in seeking to create a "World Republic" (New World Order).

"I believe today that I am acting in the name of the Almighty Creator. By warding off the Jews I'm fighting for the Lords work." - Adolf Hitler - March 15, 1936

"Last week armed German police smashed their way into Berlin's B'nai B'rith lodge, arrested the members, and cleared out the premises... " - Time Magazine - May 3, 1937

In 1937 Joseph Goebbels inaugurated an "Anti-Masonic Exposition" to display objects seized by the state... Anti-Masonic Museums and displays were publicly opened in all countries under Nazi regime.

Freemasonry was banned by edict in all countries that were either allied with the Nazis or under Nazi control, including Norway and France. Anti-Masonic exhibitions were held in many occupied countries.


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>>52094
Webm'd for convenience.


Anonymous 08/22/2017 (Tue) 16:58:47 [Preview] No. 52104 del
>>52093
Very interesting.


Anonymous 08/24/2017 (Thu) 10:17:13 Id: 1e890c [Preview] No. 52182 del
>>52049
Don't burn me on the stake please
>>52053
I never said that current system is good, nor did I promote democracy as an alternative. There is absolutely nothing meritocratic about current European order, because social positions are based on political acceptability (servitude) and almost nothing else. EU is the refuge of the least meritorcratic people and a sin against nature. But that's a whole different subject.

>>52057
Even Plato was against that kind of democracy. Continental (We can say "synthetic") philosophy would observe society as an organic entity (synergy), while analytic one leads to extreme individualism and special snowflake syndrome. Which is a quintessentially Anglo thing.

>>52061
Both positions allow Jews to take power. And it's much easier with monarchy because all they need to do is infiltrate the royal court and marry one of their schiksas into it and make sure she has children.

Are you saying that optimization of society is not possible? Rolling the dices of fate in a system so heavily geared against you that all sides of the dice show 1 seems quite short sighted.


Anonymous 08/24/2017 (Thu) 10:24:46 Id: 1e890c [Preview] No. 52183 del
>>52062
Very good point. Philosopher King should be an embodiment of a philosophy, of an Idea, and judged accordingly. He should be the greatest exemplar, the most meritocratic one. If the idea is nationalism, then he should be the greatest son of the nation. Not some inbred moron artificially propped up as a symbol in the most Jewish manner (deception) until people finally realize that the king is naked.

That's the difference between Aristocracy and Monarchy. Monarchy is the exact opposite. It's neither materialistic nor idealistic (While Aristocracy is a synthesis of both), it's anti-synthesis, a lie serving the father of lies, the prince of the world.


Anonymous 08/24/2017 (Thu) 11:43:28 Id: ca76d0 [Preview] No. 52185 del
>>52183
So your definition of a Philosopher King is no different than say a Pope?


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>>52182
>absolutely nothing meritocratic about current European order despite just having heard how there is
>hurr durr behold my made up monolith as I double down on it again

U! S! A! U! S! A!

AND FREEDOM!


Anonymous 08/24/2017 (Thu) 12:37:55 Id: 9faf70 [Preview] No. 52187 del
You'll notice that all meritocracy is a lie because in fact the earth is just going to get swallowed by the (((sun))) anyway. Planet Earth is literally the least meritocratic existence possible.


Anonymous 08/25/2017 (Fri) 00:54:01 Id: ca76d0 [Preview] No. 52199 del
>>52186
>>52187
These posts makes no sense, is not a real rebuttal.

Meritocracy is a recent word slapping together a latin word with a greek word, so the greeks don't know of "meritocracy" but would only recognize "cracy" from kratos. All that promote meritocracy can never properly define what is merit. Is it through credit? If so, meritocracy is no different than right libertarian or anarcho-capitalism. Is it through labor? If so, meritocracy doesn't value ideas that increases efficiency of labor and the end product. Is it through the education system that categorize you based on what the system wants from you? If so, those that determine what is beneficial determines what is merit and so there's no way of escaping the bullshit system through the system itself. What is merit? Is it a value or a worth? Is it invaluable, or is it worthless? How can people keep track of merit and how can we trust the merit tracking system? Meritocracy is no different that "street cred", tall tales, gossip. Groupthink can't deal with any all encompassing singular merit based system as a basis of both invaluable concepts and valuable things, and it can't be done except for in a surveillance police state where everybody knows about everything that you do since it's on a leaderboard. No sins are forgiven, no rights and wrongs are forgotten, it simply won't function as merit points become inflated as more time goes by, of which in a meritocracy, only a zero growth population can benefit from and so fundamentally, all progress is halted in a meritocracy.


Anonymous 08/25/2017 (Fri) 03:47:32 Id: 9faf70 [Preview] No. 52207 del
>>52199
Thank you, this text accurately elaborates the point I already made in those posts, and together they now sum up to what is a real rebuttal:
<"absolutely nothing meritocratic" is an oxymoron


Anonymous 08/25/2017 (Fri) 16:06:18 Id: ca76d0 [Preview] No. 54745 del
>>52207
None of your other points against that Serbian IP using anon are really rebuttals either, just opinions. He has some residual sympathy for the Knights Templar, not knowing that they were puppets of the Venetian Empire that destroyed the Roman and Byzantine Empire. He doesn't understand how Protestantism is an outcome of the Roman Catholic Church's failure to deal with textual criticism but Western Christianity in general forcibly married Religion with Scholasticism in pushing Onto-Theology which is the worst thing Christianity in general had ever come up with. He also then claims that Jesus isn't the true Christ of the Juden which is exactly what Jews say to reject the anti-Judean, anti-old testament minsets and concepts.

You on the other hand, responded to the messages meant for eb91a0 (The British Freemasonic cuck) with some meaningless dribble about what you perceive Americans as based on poor examples, failing to grasp what is an actual American republic (which was taken over and was an experiment to begin with), and frequently use "democracy" when there's lots of democratic countries outside of the US.

In other words, both of you are wrong in certain concepts, both of you are right in other concepts, but both of you are talking to the wrong guy. According to >>52063 A centralized monarchy is a meritocracy that goes both ways up and down, and that "God" has no religion nor ethnicity. British Freemasonry is a "semi-royal" fraternal order according to him in an older thread that was destroyed because the gay nigger spammer bumped off the Duterte thread.

Here's my conclusion: Freemasonry is a Meritocratic institution in between a Democracy and a Monarchy and so in its totality is an extension of a Feudal caste system that favors the British Royal Family and their royal orders that have indirect power over British Freemasonry and other institutions by extension of proxy through those that are within the royal orders. That's how they've got away with the murder of Diana. Kate Middleton is a Goldschmidt from a powerful banking Jew family. the British Royal Family is 100% cucked and so are all British Freemasons, the British people, and former British colonies.


Anonymous 08/25/2017 (Fri) 16:40:50 Id: eb91a0 [Preview] No. 54748 del
>>54745
>That's how they've got away with the murder of Diana
Well that's a sideways jump.
>the British Royal Family is 100% cucked and so are all British Freemasons, the British people, and former British colonies.
How so?


Anonymous 08/25/2017 (Fri) 17:04:53 Id: ca76d0 [Preview] No. 54751 del
>>54748
h ttps://w ww.youtube.com/watch?v=2jFkkRF-nXg
You have a low reading comprehension, I've already explained why and how.


Anonymous 08/26/2017 (Sat) 02:18:56 Id: eb91a0 [Preview] No. 54761 del
>>54751
No, you've just made baseless assertions. Most of which are "just because Jews", but with no "this is how."


Anonymous 08/26/2017 (Sat) 02:19:51 Id: eb91a0 [Preview] No. 54762 del
>>54751
Also, it's a good thing Diana was bumped off, if it was even the case.


Anonymous 08/26/2017 (Sat) 02:56:43 Id: b5b766 [Preview] No. 54763 del
(3.86 MB 467.mp3)
Bill cooper gives his take on The Scarlet and the beast by John Danial. He asserts that British Isrealism and ZIonism are 2 more powers aside from the beast and scarlet.


Anonymous 08/26/2017 (Sat) 10:31:14 Id: ca76d0 [Preview] No. 54767 del
h ttp://w ww.inspiretochangeworld.com/2015/10/the-truth-about-the-so-called-british-royal-family-they-are-all-jews/

Here'a a cliche copypasta

Capital Sovereignty has been compromised - now it is Zionist private International Capital - controlled from the City of London [Rothschilds control - as the Rothschilds indirectly control the central bank in the US (Federal Reserve Bank of New York), UK (Bank Of England Nominees), and the EU (European Central Bank)].

National Sovereignty has been compromised - now it is Zionist control of British Sovereignty - so the Church of England [Anglican Church - whose supreme governor is the Monarch/Sovereign/British Queen] can now be understood as having been made redundant - if the new child is Jewish - this has the consequence of requiring dissolution of Christianity in the British Isles as being separate from Rome and from Judaism - as Judaism must now take precedence in the British Isles - no longer Anglicanism which is predicated on the Christian faith. However, this birth seems to leave Islam in Britain somewhat isolated from the three monotheistic beliefs in the British Isles.

BRITISH ROYAL BABY IS FIRST BRITISH JEWISH ROYAL BABY

If, as is the case, Carole Middleton is the daughter of Ronald Goldsmith & Dorothy Harrison (both Jews) [whose parents were Robert Harrison & Elizabeth Temple (both Jews)].

Elizabeth was descended from the Myers, a distinguished 19th century Jewish family [as with the Goldsmith surname].

Hence, Kate Middleton is Jewish. That means the Middleton (mother) takes precedence over the Saxe-Coburg-Gotha aka "Windsor" (father) progeny - resulting in the baby being born a Jewish royal baby [taking the Jewish matrilineal or female root of Kate -- not the patrilineal or male root of William -- thus compromising any authority over British constitutional Sovereignty]. Not surprisingly, Doreen Berger, chairman of the Jewish Genealogical Society does not want to accept the assertion of the BBC TV (royal) court correspondent Michael Cole who recently wrote in The Times [newspaper of record] that the baby was going to be a Jewish royal baby, with the first name to be George, a favourite, propitious name in the royal family. [The idea floated in the mainstream media that the name was only agreed a few days ago is farcical in the extreme!]


Anonymous 08/26/2017 (Sat) 10:46:33 Id: abb929 [Preview] No. 54768 del
h ttps://archbishop-cranmer.blogspot.com/2013/07/prince-george-of-cambridge-is-jew.html

Read this in it's entirety to understand what Anglicans actually believe in, and also to have some level of healthy skepticism concerning trusting a Jew claiming that George Alexander Louis isn't a Jew.


Anonymous 08/26/2017 (Sat) 22:04:10 Id: 1e890c [Preview] No. 54795 del
>>52063
>No, just ask for examples.
It's quite self evident and obvious, pick any even semi-influential Freemason and I'll show you how deep ties he has with the world kikery and their systems of control
>doing these things in a Masonic capacity.
Why would you accept people doing that in ANY capacity? Unless you are no different from them
>Then why were they so keen to overturn it where possible?
Because it was not them who were kings. They have no actual preferences when it comes to religions, political systems etc. Whatever works, as long as they are the apex parasite. We are talking about people who are barely conscious and physically incapable of holding any ideals and values, organic machines which only purpose is to bring misery.
>No one sect is wholly innocent, sadly.
There are zero redeeming qualities about Protestantism. It's one of most profane and most hypocritical religions out there.
>God has no religion nor ethnicity
Jewish con-man claiming to be his "son" certainly has.
>They were Franks and Gauls
Maybe up to a certain point, when those who actually shared blood ties with Jeshohua inter-married with them.


Anonymous 08/26/2017 (Sat) 22:26:59 Id: 1e890c [Preview] No. 54797 del
>>52063
Cont'd

>True, but you're ignoring that it's because they've also flourished economically and intellectually.
Yes, allowing ordinary people to read and write has that kind of effect. Many countries have flourished economically and intellectually without becoming pits of degeneracy and (the irony) greatest anti-intellectualism the world has seen since the dark ages.
>It's actually easier, because they already have access to tools to ensure they're able to be the most meritorious.
Easier for them to enslave everyone else of course. Now imagine giving those tools to someone with actual merit. And someone who has proven to have his people in the first place, instead of some spoiled brat psychopath who will feed them "cookies" with a lot of power he did nothing to deserve. But of course, the concept of "deserving" would be completely alien to a modern Freemason.
>Because we need strong centralised leaders who represent each nation.
What if monarch is not strong?
>Not media pawns who are naught by hydra.
The only reason why British monarchy still exists is because of the media and tourism revenue they create for the kikes that rule Britain.
>You know where the buck stops, and they can't be "voted" out, and replaced with themselves.
With this I actually agree. It has at least some merits I guess.
>The monarch should be of the nation.
Looking at population trends of certain western countries, they might as well be black or Arab. Redefining a nation in the current age will be a very difficult task. Because "civic nationalism" is essentially anti-nationalism.
>because the vast majority of the symbols were taken from British operative guilds and churches.
Which took it from Middle East (and north Africa). I mean your entire mythos is based on Judea, ancient Egypt and Babylon.


Anonymous 08/26/2017 (Sat) 22:57:35 Id: 1e890c [Preview] No. 54800 del
>>52186
>He thinks I'm American

USA is actually more meritocratic than EU, but there is not too much of a difference.

>>52199
Meritocracy is certainly based on a value system, but it's not really that hard to value the objective merit of an individual. There are vectors that are shared by most value systems. It might be impossible to find a "perfect" merit system, but trying to find one is certainly better than absolute relativism which leads into absolute nihilism. A chain of being > kike relativism.

And in certain value systems khm, capitalism, khm, a nigger running after a ball is worth tens of times more than a scientist who finds a cure for some disease. But that just makes him a based nigger I guess.

>it simply won't function as merit points become inflated as more time goes by
>all progress is halted in a meritocracy.

You could apply that to any point/information system, in fact it's already happening with money worldwide. Monarchy becomes too inbred and devolved, in Communism work becomes inflated, in Capitalism money does. That's entropy for you.


Anonymous 08/26/2017 (Sat) 23:10:04 Id: 1e890c [Preview] No. 54803 del
>>52185
In a sense yes, in a sense no, depending on the context (yours is completely out of place of course). A Pope is the main representative of God on earth, according to Catholicism, so if you are a Catholic he might as well be. That can be heavily debated of course, but I'm not the one to debate the doctrine of faith as I'm not Catholic.

I would debate however, that Catholicism is a very bad idea. Just like Monarchy is.


Anonymous 08/26/2017 (Sat) 23:24:39 Id: 1e890c [Preview] No. 54804 del
>He has some residual sympathy for the Knights Templar, not knowing that they were puppets of the Venetian Empire that destroyed the Roman and Byzantine Empire.

How did they manage such an astonishing feat with such low numbers? Or maybe it was Crusaders that you are talking about, combined with other historical factors that didn't go in their favor. It was Christianity that ultimately destroyed Roman Empire, not a knightly order that was anything but Christian at a certain point.

>He also then claims that Jesus isn't the true Christ of the Juden

Actually I claim that he is the "anointed" of Jews. But not the Christ in it's original, Indo-Aryan sense. There was another person in the story that is more likely to hold that title.


Anonymous 08/27/2017 (Sun) 01:55:25 Id: 8a0a5e [Preview] No. 54813 del
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>>54804
>the christian strawman
The Roman Empire was crumbling long before the "barbarian" Germanic tribe and former Roman commander Odovacar dethroned Romulus Augustalus with the rest of Rome invaded by Goths and Vandals. Overtaxation, oppression of the provinces, government bureaucracy, overextended military power, mass entertainment (arena) to keep the millions of unemployed masses placated only resulted in riots, poorly defended borders against foreign migration. Loose morals of the upper classes trickled down to all as public orgies, sacrifices and bestiality became commonplace. The cost of defending the Empire, failing economics, heavy taxation, high inflation. Goths destroyed their water supply. These are the reasons. Every failing society had similar factors, yet no one who leads learns from it. Degeneracy is a tale as old as time.


Anonymous 08/27/2017 (Sun) 04:24:11 Id: eb91a0 [Preview] No. 54821 del
>>54795
>It's quite self evident and obvious
Then you'd be able to easily provide, instead of dodging?
>pick any even semi-influential Freemason and I'll show you how deep ties he has
Perhaps. But is that due to his membership, or due to being an influential person who would be in many groups?
>Because it was not them who were kings.
Precisely my point. They don't want systems they can't exploit.
>There are zero redeeming qualities about Protestantism
Nice opinions there. Must take some pretty dark rose glasses to avoid seeing where it attempts to rectify the failings of Catholicism.
> It's one of most profane and most hypocritical religions out there.
You might want to look up what profane means. And [it] (there's no sect called just "Protestant") isn't hypocritical. The followers can be. But that's true of literally anything.
>Jewish con-man claiming to be his "son" certainly has.
The point is that He doesn't, my fedorable friend.
>Maybe up to a certain point
Entirely unproveable, and mighty unlikely.

1/2


Anonymous 08/27/2017 (Sun) 04:37:20 Id: eb91a0 [Preview] No. 54822 del
>>54797
2/2

>Yes, allowing ordinary people to read and write has that kind of effect.
Gotta take the bad with the good.
>Many countries have flourished economically and intellectually without becoming pits of degeneracy
Sure, but which ones are you referring to?
>Easier for them to enslave everyone else of course.
Clearly not. Otherwise they'd never be overthrown.
> And someone who has proven to have his people in the first place, instead of some spoiled brat psychopath who will feed them "cookies" with a lot of power he did nothing to deserve.
Sounds more like you're speaking against democracy there. Because the system you seem to be arguing for works best with monarchy. Real monarchy, where the kind of ruler you're wanting would actually be able to come to power.
>But of course, the concept of "deserving" would be completely alien to a modern Freemason.
Spoken like someone who truly knows nothing about the organisations.
>The only reason why British monarchy still exists is because of the media and tourism revenue
Retarded meme. Her Majesty creates no tourism revenue. No one goes there to have tea with Her. The buildings do. But the Windsor family own properties of which they give the profits directly to parliament to the tune of £350m each year. In return they receive a wage of £30m.
They stay around because at this point, the (((politicians))) overthrowing the monarchy would piss the people off just enough to cause more problems.
>Because "civic nationalism" is essentially anti-nationalism.
Agreed. But that's only a problem for non-countries like the USA.
>Which took it from Middle East (and north Africa).
Which symbols are you thinking of? Because like Christianity, it had very little at inception, and absorbed everything from Rome, Britain, France, and Germany.
>I mean your entire mythos is based on Judea, ancient Egypt and Babylon.
Not so much. There's an antient Palestinian framing device, and a few stories which venture to Babylon, but it's really just British Christianity under a coat of paint.

>>54804
>Knights Templar, not knowing that they were puppets of the Venetian Empire
Not so much. They didn't contribute a lot to the 4th Crusade.
>How did they manage such an astonishing feat with such low numbers?
Again, they didn't. The HRE were the main force, and the ERE was still weakened.
> It was Christianity that ultimately destroyed Roman Empire
Nah.


Anonymous 08/27/2017 (Sun) 11:21:46 Id: 1e890c [Preview] No. 54828 del
>>54813
Yes, you can say it's cyclical. Christianity certainly didn't help it, even if it wasn't the main cause. Maybe if they remained pagan and made an alliance with Goths and Vandals instead of trying to "civilize" them, things would play out differently. But the real goal of Christianity was never to resist the hordes from the south, it was to conquer the north and eventually open the flood gates. Crusaders were a minor dent to the Muslim world compared to the damage they did to the white people.

>Then you'd be able to easily provide, instead of dodging?
I'll provide plenty when I find the time for it, just because I'm curious what kind of mental gymnastics are you going to pull in order to defend them. Inb4 4d chess.

>Perhaps. But is that due to his membership, or due to being an influential person who would be in many groups?
That depends on the values, goals, and morals (or their lack of) of modern Freemasonry. Naturally, if you hold certain values in high regard, you wouldn't accept a person who is the anti-thesis of those values as your "brother" no matter how wealthy and/or influential he is. Unless wealth and influence are the only values that you live by.
>Precisely my point. They don't want systems they can't exploit.
Monarchy is quite easy to exploit, and I already elaborated on it, but you keep ignoring it for some reason
>Nice opinions there.
I don't see that you have many arguments in favor of it except "at least it's less bad than other type of Christianity" It was moderate Islam, not all Muslims tier.
>You might want to look up what profane means.
Enlighten me. "Protestant" is an umbrella term for all Christians who want to be "saved by god" because they are afraid of death, but also want to completely disregard it's teachings and have 10 wives or marry people of the same sex.
>The point is that He doesn't, my fedorable friend.
Are you saying that Jesus wasn't a Jew, or that he didn't claim to be a son of god?


Anonymous 08/27/2017 (Sun) 11:56:01 Id: 1e890c [Preview] No. 54829 del
>>54822
>Gotta take the bad with the good.
It was not necessary at all. It was as if someone made you completely blind, then let you see on one eye. Also, it replaced one bad value system with another almost as bad value system.

>Sure, but which ones are you referring to?
Let's start with Nazi Germany and many nat-soc/fascist regimes. Hell, you could even use Stalin era Soviet Union as a limited example. And many empires in history. Basically any system that's not globalism/liberalism/neocohenism that gives you temporary economic benefits in exchange for destroying your nation completely in the long term.
>Real monarchy, where the kind of ruler you're wanting would actually be able to come to power.
As long as his offspring demonstrate to be of equal caliber and intentions (but truly demonstrate) or as long as someone from the ordinary people can become the Emperor if he shows the qualities for it, I'm perfectly fine with it. I support Aristocracy and a caste system that allows social mobility, not hereditary Monarchy and a feudal system where your "birthright" sets in stone your social position no matter how bad you are. But since the society that we live in (globally) is heavily feudal in nature, I have to support the exact opposite in order to scale things a bit.
>Spoken like someone who truly knows nothing about the organisations.
I know what I see. But you can always show me the truth instead of repeating how I know nothing. Provide some explanations, examples etc. Or you are not paid enough for that kind of thing?
>No one goes there to have tea with Her.
She is a brand, no one goes to have tea with Dr. Pepper or McDonald either. But the point is that they are just "kept around" because it would not be beneficial to remove them for whatever reason
>But that's only a problem for non-countries like the USA.
Civic nationalism turns any country into a non-country. It's the true cause of globalism, a boiling frog kind of transition.
>Which symbols are you thinking of?
You know, the temple, the Jewish stories, names taken from those places. But then again, Christianity is a sand-cult as well so you might have a point.

>Again, they didn't. The HRE were the main force, and the ERE was still weakened.
It was a rhetorical question, that's exactly my point.


Anonymous 08/27/2017 (Sun) 16:43:57 Id: eb91a0 [Preview] No. 54832 del
>>54828
>That depends on the values, goals, and morals (or their lack of) of modern Freemasonry.
Ideally. But we're not brainwashers. Someone with a particular mindset is probably going to keep it when they join. If they're at variance with what Masonry teaches, they'll either leave, or ignore it and soldier on because they think it offers prestige or something.
>Monarchy is quite easy to exploit
It simply isn't. A monarch has everything already. No subject would be able to offer them anything to make it worthwhile to shoot themselves in the foot.
>I don't see that you have many arguments in favor of it
Because if you're not a Christian, my defense of certain subsets won't matter.
>Enlighten me.
It means "outside of the temple." Basically, a non member of a group or religion. A "profane religion" is an oxymoron.
>"Protestant" is an umbrella term for all Christians who want to be "saved by god"
No, it's an umbrella term for Trinitarian Christianity not Catholic or Eastern Orthodox. That's it.
>Are you saying that Jesus wasn't a Jew
That'n. The same way Krsna wasn't Hindu.


Anonymous 08/27/2017 (Sun) 16:53:05 Id: eb91a0 [Preview] No. 54834 del
>>54829
>It was not necessary at all.
True. But it was necessary if you wanted those societies to advance beyond the iron age.
>Let's start with Nazi Germany and many nat-soc/fascist regimes.
>many
There has only been a handful, and they have all failed.
>Hell, you could even use Stalin era Soviet Union as a limited example
No you couldn't?
> or as long as someone from the ordinary people can become the Emperor if he shows the qualities for it
Then you're back to the shitshow we have now, where the (((media))) puppet gets thrown into the big chair. Monarchy with set inheritance prevents that.
>But you can always show me the truth
It's an actual meritocracy. Everyone is equal, and has equal share, so votes are for those who have earned it.
>Or you are not paid enough for that kind of thing?
Because the only people who can see you're belligerently ignorant are paid to do so?
>no one goes to have tea with Dr. Pepper or McDonald either.
What an unusually false dichotomy.
>But the point is that they are just "kept around" because it would not be beneficial to remove them for whatever reason
Yea, it'd be a huge hit to the coffers, and they'd be free to lead an army against (((parliament))). Or just interfere with politics in general using their substantial influence.
>You know, the temple, the Jewish stories, names taken from those places.
Oh right, the absolute outer layer, rather than the symbols themselves for people who study? Sure, i'll give you that. But by the same token, i hope you don't use, read, or learn from anything which isn't on every level local to you.
>It was a rhetorical question
My bad.


Anonymous 08/27/2017 (Sun) 23:04:07 Id: 1e890c [Preview] No. 54844 del
>>54832
>But we're not brainwashers.
You don't need to brainwash anyone, just don't accept people who's character and deeds are not compatible with your organization. My point still stands, you either have no actual set of values (and thus your organization is completely meaningless and only serves as a cover for some other organization(s) and interest groups), or you values are equal to those who serve the kikes in order to enrich themselves on the expense of everyone else and at the determent of their people and humanity on the whole. In other words, people no different from Jews (of the most Talmudic kind). Parasites that need to be eliminated for the nation/society to flourish.

>A monarch has everything already.
Not necessarily. And that doesn't make them immune to manipulation. You have a very primitive, materialistic and simplistic view of the human mind.

>It means "outside of the temple."
I just checked the definition and it appears I've used it correctly.

>There has only been a handful, and they have all failed.
Fighting international Jewry and their Babylonian pets or maybe it's the other way aroundis not an easy task, after all this world is their playing field. In any case, they have achieved tremendous economic and scientific advance in a very short time despite being in war with most of the world. Denying such advancements to USSR would be quite ignorant on your side. Let's not go back as far as Rome (pagan) and ancient Greece. You don't need kike slave cults in order to progress, quite the opposite.

>Monarchy with set inheritance prevents that.
How does it prevent media manipulation? Your logic is that in order to prevent certain people having too much power over others (by any means, be it inheritance or manipulation), we need to have people with too much power over others already in place.

>It's an actual meritocracy. Everyone is equal, and has equal share, so votes are for those who have earned it.
Sounds more like democracy. And we can't have democracy without a bit of manipulation and bribery, can't we?

>Because the only people who can see you're belligerently ignorant are paid to do so?
I wish they sent that other FM who shills on chans in here, he at least knows how to have serious discussions like a sir and a gentleman, you are just a naysayer with no real arguments.

>Oh right, the absolute outer layer, rather than the symbols themselves for people who study?
You can have those symbols with a completely different outer layer, but I guess that one wouldn't be very politically correct.


Anonymous 08/28/2017 (Mon) 01:17:59 Id: eb91a0 [Preview] No. 54854 del
>>54844
> just don't accept people who's character and deeds are not compatible with your organization.
We try not to. But ti's rarely ever that simple. We're not mind readers, either.
>Not necessarily
Yes, necessarily. They are the nation. Everything in it is already theirs. What could some heeb banker offer a king who already owns him?
>And that doesn't make them immune to manipulation.
Of course. But it's a helluva lot harder than any other system.
>I just checked the definition and it appears I've used it correctly.
Literally how. Just double checked it myself, and yes, your usage was a bit off, as it means "without the temple" by the strictest meaning, and by extension, "not relating to that which is sacred or religious; secular."
>In any case, they have achieved tremendous economic and scientific advance in a very short time despite being in war with most of the world.
That would only be Nazi Germany. And they didn't really achieve economic success any more than someone who sells off everything they have without further investment could be considered to be rich.
>Denying such advancements to USSR would be quite ignorant
If that were the case, they'd still be around. They were ruinous economically, and not much to speak of scientifically. They shot a dog into space is all. Otherwise, they were rather degenerate.
>You don't need kike slave cults in order to progress
Agreed? But you do need to progress to progress.
>How does it prevent media manipulation?
Doesn't stop the attempt, but they can be controlled.
>Your logic is that in order to prevent certain people having too much power over others (b
No no, just the wrong people. Self serving, or foreign serving parasites. For a monarch to be self serving would actually benefit his nation, as everything he has is derived from it. So he can only enrich himself by making the country prosper.
>Sounds more like democracy.
Yea, it's actual democracy. The kind of which doesn't work for a nation, because in a lodge everyone is there by choice and with nothing to gain. The only thing one can do is learn.
>I wish they sent
Again, your paranoia doesn't make you correct.
>like a sir
Good Lord...
>You can have those symbols with a completely different outer layer
You could, but what's the need? They already work well as a whole. German Rite was good, but lacking.
One shouldn't fear either the source or framing of knowledge, and instead focus on using it.
>but I guess that one wouldn't be very politically correct.
That makes no sense. Especially when Freemasonry is anti-political correctness.


Anonymous 08/29/2017 (Tue) 01:50:00 Id: 0775dd [Preview] No. 54890 del
UK govit controlled by Muslims, Muslims are freemasons right?
h ttps://w ww.thetimes.co.uk/edition/news/christian-child-forced-into-muslim-foster-care-by-tower-hamlets-council-3gcp6l8cs


Anonymous 08/29/2017 (Tue) 04:28:53 Id: 03b285 [Preview] No. 54897 del
>>54890
There's nothing Muslim about the Muslim Brotherhood. Wahhabis and Salafis are not Sunnis.

h ttp://w ww.conspiracyschool.com/blog/islamic-radicals-admit-masonic-origins
h ttp://w ww.conspiracyschool.com/blog/wahhabis-and-salafis-are-not-sunnis
h ttp://w ww.conspiracyschool.com/blog/ibn-taymiyya-and-occult-origins-salafi-movement
h ttp://w ww.conspiracyschool.com/blog/2002-iraqi-intel-reported-wahhabis-are-jewish-origin


Anonymous 08/29/2017 (Tue) 05:30:13 Id: eb91a0 [Preview] No. 54901 del
>>54890
> Muslims are freemasons
Not so much. The only Muslim country where Freemasonry is permitted is Turkey. Egypt might change, but it hasn't so far.


Anonymous 08/29/2017 (Tue) 19:51:21 Id: 7f7ba6 [Preview] No. 54930 del
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>>54901

There are a lot of muslims that are freemasons, and are a part of the current power. People don't like it because it don't goes into the "IT'S ALL THE JEWS" bullshit.
In fact, the muslim brotherhood is an organisation funded by the CIA and the UK secret services. There is proofs of it.
The son in law of the funder of the muslim brotherhood, Said Ramadan, have been confirmed to be an informant for the CIA and the UK secret services by switzerland declassified documents (especially one document from 5 july 1967).
There is a picture of him with the american president Eisenhower.
(from "Le Point", a french famous newspaper).

The muslim brotherhood is certainly a mason organisation (youtube videos explain that)

Moreover, the muslim brotherhood is actually the organisation who hire the future fighter of Daesh in Tunisia, Pakistan and others. The terrorists and useful element of the muslims brotherhood, when the mission is completed, can go hide in the paris suburb or in the US (the book "56", from the french journalist Jean Louis Izambert). France is totaly with them, and protect them.

There is so much to say and to link about these organisations. For exemple, to enter in the muslim brotherhood, you are blinded, and you swear and the Koran and a gun, to never reveal anything about the group, or you'd be killed.

So the Muslim brotherhood is in fact a network that is meant to organise the americano israelie mercenaries in middle east (not entirely obviously), and some secret service coup in the region.

PS: There is lodges in Egypt (h ttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jamal_al-Din_al-Afghani, he's on of the influencer of Hassan Al-Banna).
That's why Egypt is one of the Israel protector, and why the Muslim brotherhood is coming from Egypt.


Anonymous 08/30/2017 (Wed) 02:38:38 Id: eb91a0 [Preview] No. 54938 del
>>54930
>There are a lot of muslims that are freemasons
Not a lot, but some. I know guys who had been arrested just for taking their lodge briefcase (with regalia) when transiting Arab states.
>The muslim brotherhood is certainly a mason organisation (youtube videos explain that)
Can you give a tl;dr why? Especially when it was their coming to power that Egyptian Masonry was outlawed?
> For exemple, to enter in the muslim brotherhood, you are blinded, and you swear and the Koran and a gun, to never reveal anything about the group, or you'd be killed.
That doesn't surprise me. But you know that blindfolds don't mean it's linked to any other group, right? Lots of groups use things like that without being related.
>PS: There is lodges in Egypt
At great risk. But hells yea, they're great. Kemetic, rather than Muslim. Very cool rituals.


Anonymous 08/30/2017 (Wed) 11:51:02 [Preview] No. 54942 del
>>54938
Egypt tried to distance itself from the napolian era in the 1920's. This lead to the muslim brotherhood to keep influence in that region without white people being there.


Anonymous 09/02/2017 (Sat) 21:07:21 Id: 1e890c [Preview] No. 55046 del
>>54854
>We try not to. But ti's rarely ever that simple. We're not mind readers, either.
But when they prove to be like that, do you denounce them? Of course not, it would be bad for the business
>Everything in it is already theirs. What could some heeb banker offer a king who already owns him?
How can a person with an ounce of self respect consider himself to be a literal property of someone? Would you let the king have the first wedding night with your wife too? You have to be a literal cuck to support monarchy. Heeb banker could easily deceive the king, because hereditary monarchy usually does not produce very intelligent and wise rulers. Just look at the history, there are plenty of things that a heeb banker can do when it comes to monarchy.
>"not relating to that which is sacred or religious;
It can be used in a derogatory way for people, opinions etc that are quite lowly, simplistic and lack any divine qualities.
>That would only be Nazi Germany.
On what basis do you ignore the other examples?
>But you do need to progress to progress.
So basically Protestantism had nothing to do with it? Nor did modern liberalism and degeneracy.
>Doesn't stop the attempt, but they can be controlled.
They can be controlled by any legislative body with sufficient authority and power
>Self serving, or foreign serving parasites.
What if foreign country can offer him something that he cannot obtain in his own? Also, history proves you wrong, the more self serving the monarch was, the worse it was for his people. But you are probably one of those (((people))) who consider selfishness a virtue.
>Again, your paranoia doesn't make you correct.
I guess I'm paranoid about Jews too :>) There seems to be an awful lot of Freemasons on chans, must be a pure coincidence.
>Good Lord...
Sorry, I forgot that you are a literal autist so I tried joking a bit, there used to be a chan years ago where we used to LARP as 19th century aristocrats. In any case, I'd like to speak with your manager :>)
>and instead focus on using it.
Please no. Look where your "craft" has brought us. Freemasonry was a mistake, it was like giving a loaded gun to a child.
>That makes no sense. Especially when Freemasonry is anti-political correctness.
Political correctness is contextual


Anonymous 09/02/2017 (Sat) 21:19:30 Id: 1e890c [Preview] No. 55048 del
>>54930
>In fact, the muslim brotherhood is an organisation funded by the CIA and the UK secret services.
You do realize that CIA is literally Jews, right? And well, Anglos were always their greatest partners in crime.

MB doesn't necessarily have to be controlled by Freemasonry, more likely it's just the same type of organization serving the same interests, just targeting the different population group.


Anonymous 09/03/2017 (Sun) 04:02:38 Id: eb91a0 [Preview] No. 55081 del
>>55046
>But when they prove to be like that, do you denounce them?
Yup. Look trough any expulsion register (which every secretary is supposed to keep up to date).
>How can a person with an ounce of self respect consider himself to be a literal property of someone?
Agreed?
>Heeb banker could easily deceive the king,
"No, your majesty, you don't have everything already and can't simply expel me with the support of the people" That would be tricky.
>because hereditary monarchy usually does not produce very intelligent and wise rulers.
And i bet you have at least two or three examples out of the history of monarchy to support that.
>Just look at the history, there are plenty of things that a heeb banker can do when it comes to monarchy.
Only when they cease being a monarch, and are instead a parliamentary puppet.
>It can be used in a derogatory way for people, opinions etc that are quite lowly, simplistic and lack any divine qualities.
I suppose. But that's poor usage.
>So basically Protestantism had nothing to do with it?
Yes and no. It's not such a simple matter. Like, in a general sense, nations which turned protestant became more intellectually free. Think of it like a tax haven for scientific thought.
>They can be controlled by any legislative body with sufficient authority and power
Not if they own the legislative body, like Murdoch does.
>What if foreign country can offer him something that he cannot obtain in his own?
Such as? Like, i'm not sure how this could be a fair tradeoff.
>I guess I'm paranoid about Jews too
You probably are. But at least there's proof there.
>There seems to be an awful lot of Freemasons on chans
There's an awful lot of everyone on here. It's not some secret club.
>I tried joking a bit
Nice save.
>there used to be a chan years ago where we used to LARP as 19th century aristocrats
And you call others autistic? Oh the ironing.
>Look where your "craft" has brought us.
I suspect you're giving it too much credit here. But one must take the good with the bad.
>Political correctness is contextual
Okay. What is it in this context?


Anonymous 09/03/2017 (Sun) 10:25:24 Id: 1e890c [Preview] No. 55089 del
>>55081
>Yup. Look trough any expulsion register (which every secretary is supposed to keep up to date).
Could you direct me to some? I assume I'd have to dig quite a bit with Google to find something useful.
>Agreed?
In absolutist Monarchy you are a literal property of the ruling family.
>And i bet you have at least two or three examples out of the history of monarchy to support that.
You can find an example of a heir being a literal retard or a crazy psychopath in pretty much every royal family, in pretty much every country in history. Being more prevalent in the later era when inbreeding started to take toll, and because in the old times monarchs actually had to fight in one way or another.
>Not if they own the legislative body, like Murdoch does.
How is it any different if you have a royal family that's literally Jewish?
>Such as? Like, i'm not sure how this could be a fair tradeoff.
When you have too much of everything, you develop all sorts of "exotic" tastes
>There's an awful lot of everyone on here. It's not some secret club.
>Nothing to see here goy
>Okay. What is it in this context?
Monarchism is quite popular in Britain, no? I'm sure you would be Islamic Communists if that was profitable enough.


Anonymous 09/03/2017 (Sun) 12:34:07 Id: eb91a0 [Preview] No. 55098 del
>>55089
>Could you direct me to some?
You'd have to go to a lodge or grand lodge to see them. Sadly i don't know of any online as of yet.
>In absolutist Monarchy you are a literal property of the ruling family.
Not really. Or rather, not inherently. It CAN happen, but it's not a requirement.
>You can find an example of a heir being a literal retard or a crazy psychopath in pretty much every royal family, in pretty much every country in history.
And even that would be a staggeringly small percentage compared to the other perfectly fine monarchs.
>How is it any different if you have a royal family that's literally Jewish?
Even then, if they were acting in their best interests, it wouldn't be quite the same. Besides, a Jewish monarch would only be in a Jewish country.
>When you have too much of everything, you develop all sorts of "exotic" tastes
Even so.
>Nothing to see here goy
Back to /b/, newfag.
>Monarchism is quite popular in Britain, no?
Well, it IS British, so i guess yea, just enough? But this seems tangential when you were talking about the use of Temple myth as framing device being politically correct.


Anonymous 09/03/2017 (Sun) 14:32:59 Id: 1e890c [Preview] No. 55104 del
>>55098
>You'd have to go to a lodge or grand lodge to see them.
Would they let a non-member do that?
>Besides, a Jewish monarch would only be in a Jewish country.
One simple marriage and one child can easily change that. But I guess having an absolute monarch who is a Jew automatically turns your country into a Jewish country by extension, so in a sense you are correct. I guess that's why they are shilling for comeback of monarchy again, it would make entire world Jewish, not only de facto, but de jure as well.
>But this seems tangential when you were talking about the use of Temple myth as framing device being politically correct.
You know very well that the real origin of those myths and devices is not Abrahamistic in nature , revealing the rite in it's original form might be quite triggering for all the Jews, Muslims and Christians out there. Not to mention that it would also reveal the king to be naked, and various "architects" to be mere charlatans.

But in general, you have shown that Monarchy, in it's best case scenario, is not any worse than democracy. Why not select a system that's superior to both?


Anonymous 09/04/2017 (Mon) 04:04:32 Id: eb91a0 [Preview] No. 55143 del
>>55104
>Would they let a non-member do that?
Grand Lodge yes. Private lodge, the members might be iffy, even though they should.
>One simple marriage and one child can easily change that.
Technically yes, but they would be betraying themselves there. Unless you're of the mind of the "accidental jew" status.
>You know very well that the real origin of those myths and devices is not Abrahamistic in nature
Made no allusion to otherwise.
>Not to mention that it would also reveal the king to be naked, and various "architects" to be mere charlatans.
And you've lost me again.
>Why not select a system that's superior to both?
Sure, but what even is there? At this and any foreseeable future stage, (constitutional non-parliamentary) monarchy is still the best option.


Anonymous 09/04/2017 (Mon) 13:02:16 Id: 1e890c [Preview] No. 55154 del
>>55143
>Grand Lodge yes.
Hmm, I might put this to a test, I'll report of my findings
>Technically yes, but they would be betraying themselves there.
Why, those children are still theirs, what difference does it make? At least for those not adept in the science of the blood he he he
>And you've lost me again.
The more you learn certain things, the more you begin to realize that in the current society, many people are not exactly "where they belong"
>Sure, but what even is there?
The political program envisioned by Alfred Rosenberg is definitely the best one I've encountered so far. It might not be perfect, but it's better than what we had so far. Too bad he never got the chance to fully implement it because of agents of entropy (Jews) and their Masonic goyim.


Anonymous 09/04/2017 (Mon) 14:21:34 Id: eb91a0 [Preview] No. 55157 del
>>55154
>I'll report of my findings
Enjoy. Same should apply to like tax returns and stuff since they're non-for-profit. But people rarely avail of the opportunity.
>Why, those children are still theirs
Not yet.
>The more you learn certain things, the more you begin to realize that in the current society, many people are not exactly "where they belong"
Entirely agreed.
>The political program envisioned by Alfred Rosenberg is definitely the best one I've encountered so far. I
Care to give a tl;dr?


Anonymous 09/09/2017 (Sat) 18:48:03 Id: 8a0a5e [Preview] No. 55366 del
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Enough religious bickering. Historically, even on alt.binaries of the 1990s, this shit is known to go on forever with no resolution.
This thread's been cleaned of off-topic fighting. Keep it on freemasonry and the paranormal.
Edited last time by AdolfHitler on 09/10/2017 (Sun) 22:21:17.


Anonymous 09/10/2017 (Sun) 23:20:42 Id: 1e890c [Preview] No. 55404 del
>>55157
>Care to give a tl;dr?
Look up The Myth of the Twentieth Century by him, there are short summaries as well.

Hmm, I'm looking for lodges in my country, and they seem to be either endorsed by French lodges, unitary (accepting United Grand Lodge of England), small ones that are like chess clubs or inactive. There is even a Prince Hall lodge (lol). I also see a lot of black faces on the pictures, very vibrant and enriching.

What should I look for to find the one that's recognized and affiliated with yours? You know, the supposedly pro-white, Monarchist eternal Anglo one.


Anonymous 09/11/2017 (Mon) 02:36:45 Id: eb91a0 [Preview] No. 55411 del
>>55404
French, English, and Prince Hall? Where the hell are you?


Anonymous 09/11/2017 (Mon) 10:20:18 Id: 1e890c [Preview] No. 55424 del
>>55411
In a place where people love starting things without having an idea what they actually want to do, or what they should be doing. Most of those groups are quite small though.

But what should I look for in order to find the Perfidious Lodge of the Crown?


Anonymous 09/11/2017 (Mon) 11:39:43 Id: eb91a0 [Preview] No. 55428 del
>>55424
> Perfidious Lodge of the Crown
Wut.


Anonymous 09/11/2017 (Mon) 22:41:07 Id: 1e890c [Preview] No. 55445 del
>>55428
It's a joke. You know, funny, ha ha. But in any case you know what I'm looking for.


Anonymous 09/12/2017 (Tue) 02:55:28 Id: eb91a0 [Preview] No. 55460 del
>>55445
Oh okay. Good one?
I'm guessing you're meaning
>You know, the supposedly pro-white, Monarchist eternal Anglo one.
Which is every regular lodge. If you want the specifically pro-England ones, you'd obviously have to check out those in England and the colonies. Obviously in France, they'd be pro-France, and so on.


Anonymous 09/13/2017 (Wed) 00:17:44 Id: 1e890c [Preview] No. 55490 del
>>55460
>Good one?
I guess that overloaded your circuitry
>Which is every regular lodge.
You took a decent part of this thread trying to prove otherwise

You told me that records such as excluded members are available to general public. If I went to check that, and they denied me, you would simply claim that it's some other lodge and not your special snowflake one. So I'm trying to reach the right one.

Also, mind showing us which teachings of Freemasonry actually promote nationalism?


Anonymous 09/13/2017 (Wed) 03:47:13 Id: eb91a0 [Preview] No. 55508 del
>>55490
>I guess that overloaded your circuitry
Yea, sorry, your "meming" was just too witty for me.
>You took a decent part of this thread trying to prove otherwise
It's a difficult thing to say. Because every regular lodge is of that persuasion. You can't be certain that the members won't be idiot baby boomers who don't realise it.
> If I went to check that, and they denied me, you would simply claim that it's some other lodge
M8, those kinds of things should be public, but the fact is, there isn't one single Masonic monolithic organisation. It's hundreds of separate ones, so if you're in Austria or Serbia, you might be denied entry, in contrast to one of the 104 USA separate Grand Lodges who would probably be happy to do give you data sheets. (Or at least 103, because Arkansas is experiencing some kind of schism right now)
>Also, mind showing us which teachings of Freemasonry actually promote nationalism?
Part of the obligation of the 1st degree is being dutiful to your country of birth, and later in the SWs charge, it points out how you "must never lose sight of that allegiance owed to that land whence you derived your birth and infant nurture."
A lot of the other parts are in allegory, such as how foreigners are the quarrelsome ones who refuse to assimilate and end up killing Hiram Abiff. Or how the work done by the Craftsmen was for the glory and prestige of the nation as a whole, which drew attacks from neighbouring states.


Anonymous 09/13/2017 (Wed) 23:17:50 Id: 1e890c [Preview] No. 55540 del
>>55508
>Yea, sorry, your "meming" was just too witty for me.
Nothing personel kid.
>It's a difficult thing to say. Because every regular lodge is of that persuasion.
Aren't you asked not to discuss politics or religion in lodges? And no lodge was supposed to have official political affiliation? Again, which lodge is a regular one according to you? You will find plenty of Freemasons with republican, even communist political views.
>M8, those kinds of things should be public, but the fact is, there isn't one single Masonic monolithic organisation. It's hundreds of separate ones
Then you have no authority for speaking in the name of any lodge other than the one that you are a member of (assuming that you actually are and are not just larping/trolling), nor for speaking in the name of Masonry as a whole.

>Part of the obligation of the 1st degree is being dutiful to your country of birth, and later in the SWs charge, it points out how you "must never lose sight of that allegiance owed to that land whence you derived your birth and infant nurture."
That's interesting, but it can be interpreted in a civic nationalist kind of way.


Anonymous 09/14/2017 (Thu) 07:08:43 Id: eb91a0 [Preview] No. 55576 del
>>55540
>Aren't you asked not to discuss politics or religion in lodges? And no lodge was supposed to have official political affiliation?
That is correct. But it's possible for relevant topics to be broached without violating that landmark. Ie. When the rituals emphasize traditional family values, you can watch the liberals shift uncomfortably as they listen to it. Eventually they'll either reflect on their folly or leave.
>You will find plenty of Freemasons with republican, even communist political views.
Indeed you shall. One guy here was a teacher and quite a pinko, but after the Mark degree, he actually said how lousy it was for others to steal the efforts of his labour.
Pretty funny to watch the penny drop.
>Again, which lodge is a regular one according to you?
Any on this list. h ttp://w ww.ugle.org.uk/about/foreign-grand-lodges
>Then you have no authority for speaking in the name of any lodge other than the one that you are a member of
Yes and no. Like, yes it varies from state to state, but there are a set of landmarks (like guidelines) which lodges adhere to be recognised as regular. So whilst i couldn't say "All lodges wear white lambskin aprons with a light blue trim." because that's not the case, i could say, "All lodges require members to have a belief in deity", because any which don't are irregular (excommunicated).
> but it can be interpreted in a civic nationalist kind of way.
On it's own, perhaps, but when combined with all the other traditionalist and familial teachings, you'd be hard pressed accepting foreigners. Though for example an American would probably not knowingly see it, since they have no ethnic identity.


Anonymous 09/14/2017 (Thu) 11:03:13 Id: 1e890c [Preview] No. 55584 del
>>55576
>When the rituals emphasize traditional family values, you can watch the liberals shift uncomfortably as they listen to it.
I see, so certain ideas and values are inherent in it's teachings. It's a different question how much the average member actually cares about those teachings. You'd be surprised how far people are willing to "fake it" if there is some financial incentive for it. Hell, some people lead entirely fake lives from cradle to the grave.
>he actually said how lousy it was for others to steal the efforts of his labour.
Maybe he had capitalists in mind? Or he became le successful entrepreneur in the meantime :>)

It's funny, I know one Freemason who used to be a communist (his father was a commie official) and then got rich by stealing state/public property, only to become the most hardcore capitalist after that. (It's fairly easy to grow your wealth after you have a certain amount) Ah, the circumstances...

>but there are a set of landmarks (like guidelines) which lodges adhere to be recognised as regular
Such as?

>are irregular (excommunicated)
Who does that? Some kind of central authority maybe?

>you'd be hard pressed accepting foreigners
Well, one might have an incentive to accept foreigners if it's beneficial for his country and his family. I mean the very concept of civic nationalism got shaped by Freemasons.

Thanks for the link btw.


Anonymous 09/14/2017 (Thu) 12:58:16 Id: eb91a0 [Preview] No. 55590 del
>>55584
>You'd be surprised how far people are willing to "fake it" if there is some financial incentive for it.
Sadly, not surprised at all. Not that there are financial incentives in Masonry, but some people have nothing else in their lives, so wank over getting a dark blue apron.
>Maybe he had capitalists in mind?
Nah, the context is fruits being given to those who have not worked. But management is shown to be a meritorious pursuit.
>only to become the most hardcore capitalist after that.
Heh, that's all of them. Pretty much all the leftist tards i knew from early 20s rapidly dropped their beliefs when they got actual jobs.
>Such as?
h ttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Masonic_Landmarks
First thing you'll notice is that there's no one central list. So have fun wrapping your head around it. We still have trouble with them...
>Who does that? Some kind of central authority maybe?
Interestingly no. It's a system of inter-recognition which stemmed out from England, though England is not in charge of it. So the first few GLs all agreed to the landmarks, and then if any new ones wanted to be formed, they had to conform to them. (So the GOdF was regular, but then they got Jew'd, so everyone else blanked them and recognised the GLNF instead)
Normally, that's pretty easy, but there's an interesting case with Italy. Because one of the landmarks is ETJ (exclusive territorial jurisdiction = first ones there to fit the bill, get control of the area), and England recognises one GL, whilst most of the USA recognises another GL because so many Yankees joined it during WW2. They're both regular, but urecognised by the others.
tl;dr = no central authority, but a group selection.
>Well, one might have an incentive to accept foreigners if it's beneficial for his country and his family.
That's a very democratic and exploitative way of looking at it though. Very short sighted, which is an anathema to Masonic teaching. Like yes, it is helpful to have a bunch of cheap workers come in and take jobs others don't want. But in the long term, that sullies the demographics, and spoils the labour pool, shifting power to the plutocrats, which is beneficial only to a very small number.
>I mean the very concept of civic nationalism got shaped by Freemasons.
Hard disagree.


Anonymous 09/15/2017 (Fri) 05:33:50 [Preview] No. 55621 del
I know nothing of masons or tech but what if they have hidden masonic commands that elevate privileges etc? During pizzagate before the false flag there was a pen-testing site with a masonic cypher giving a discount to masons. It was uncovered from a chain of strange tumblr accounts. This is a real blind-spot in the whole computer sector.


Anonymous 09/15/2017 (Fri) 15:09:27 Id: fb3a1c [Preview] No. 55624 del
>>51988
>white nationalist compatibility
I think this speaks for itself


Anonymous 09/15/2017 (Fri) 15:15:26 Id: fb3a1c [Preview] No. 55625 del
What is the standard for deception? What do you think of this you fucking boomerang sycophantic aspie? This is literally what you would picture an Illuminati sacrifice dagger to look like. nothing less.


Anonymous 09/15/2017 (Fri) 16:26:56 Id: b19651 [Preview] No. 55628 del
>>55625
>This is literally what you would picture an Illuminati sacrifice dagger to look like.
Pretty dull, tbh. Like a cheap toy. Would figure a 'illuminati sacrifice dagger' to have their own symbols. Not someone elses. Don't think they ever did sacrifices anyway.


Anonymous 09/15/2017 (Fri) 19:58:21 [Preview] No. 55630 del
>>55628
how bout these?
I would hope its a cheap thing. Wonder what real blades one piece of metal blades crafted daggers to open letters? The elect of x degrees showcase the knives right?regardless there is a trend of oto having to find an antique masonic sword as part of their geometry orgies.


Anonymous 09/15/2017 (Fri) 20:16:18 [Preview] No. 55631 del
IT DOESN'T MATTER IF ITS A REPLICA DAGGER ITS GOT MASONIC SYMBOLOGY IN A SIMILAR PATTERN OF SUN AND MOON ETC. A FAKE ROLEX PROVES THE REALITY AND PRESTIGE OF A REAL ROLEX.A COSTUME DAGGER REPRESENTS TO SOME EXTENT AN IMPLEMENT OF THE CRAFT
h ttps://fionabarnett.org/abuse-drawings/
HERE IS LE SQUIGGLY DAGGAR OH THE FRIGHTENING COOKIE CUTTER CULT STICK. OBSERVE ITS STIFF WIGGLING FORM. BEHOLD THE METAL DEVIL SLICE. REAPING BETWIXT THE RIBS OF A COWAN NEAR YOU.


Anonymous 09/16/2017 (Sat) 00:50:43 Id: 1e890c [Preview] No. 55640 del
>>55590
>All members should note that it is important that no attempt should be made by any member of the United Grand Lodge of England to contact by any means (including telephone or e-mail) any of the Grand Lodges listed on this site until on their territory. To do so is a breach of Masonic Protocol.
What's the reasoning behind this?
>Not that there are financial incentives in Masonry
Not direct ones, but indirect in the sense of obtaining social/political capital and business connections that can later be transformed into financial capital. Although I'm certain that there are some lodges where at a certain point, everyone realizes that everyone else is as poor and irrelevant as they are lol.

>But management is shown to be a meritorious pursuit.
Managers are usually workers, not capital owners. Except with small businesses, but there they are just self-employed.

>Heh, that's all of them
Almost all, but yes. My point was that people's political stances are closely related to their current life circumstances, not ideology. True ideology is for very rare people who are capable for detaching themselves from their petty personal interests and circumstances.
>tl;dr = no central authority, but a group selection.
Sound like a mess. Such selection exposes it to huge political pressure.
>Like yes, it is helpful to have a bunch of cheap workers come in and take jobs others don't want.
Or are not qualified/capable for.

Demographics is only sullied if it's people of lesser quality that immigrate. Other points are true.

>>55621
That's rather silly, I mean I'd give a small discount to a fellow chan shitposter, which doesn't make us a part of some grand conspiracy

>>55625
It's literally what I would picture an Assassin's Creed LARP dagger to look like.


Anonymous 09/16/2017 (Sat) 04:23:50 Id: e5f61b [Preview] No. 55654 del
>>55630
Nice flamberge patterns. That's cool. The middle one is pretty common shite. Like $30 basic pack for anyone joining Preceptory/Commandery on the cheap.
> trend of oto having to find an antique masonic sword as part of their geometry orgies.
They do all kinds of weird shit.

>>55640
>What's the reasoning behind this?
Beats the hell outta me. I think it's because otherwise they'd get thousands of random bros just bothering them for their holiday visits, and they'd have no way of checking if they're actually members. That's why you have to go through authorised channels.
It's funny, though, because a non-member can email a GL and get a response. But if i as a member elsewhere ask another GL something, they won't respond, because it's breach of polite protocol.
>but indirect in the sense of obtaining social/political capital and business connections that can later be transformed into financial capital.
Yea, but you're really stretching it there. Like, you could say the same thing about shopping at the right grocery store.
>Managers are usually workers, not capital owners. Except with small businesses, but there they are just self-employed.
Still a necessary and useful pursuit.
>Sound like a mess.
Amazingly no. Or it might have been, but everything has settled down to a happy level.
>Such selection exposes it to huge political pressure.
Quite the opposite. Because without getting EVERYONE at once, any individual state/country going off the rails will be promptly laid low, and replaced by whomever might be waiting in the wings.
>Or are not qualified/capable for.
That's still long term unsustainable. Better to train your own people correctly than to have to rely on outside powers.
>Demographics is only sullied if it's people of lesser quality that immigrate.
But then you're still sullying both groups, just to the detriment of the other one.
>It's literally what I would picture an Assassin's Creed LARP dagger to look like.
Probably what it's listed as. Though sadly new Masons will buy literally any nonsense with a square and compass on it.


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Anonymous 09/16/2017 (Sat) 15:33:19 Id: 1e890c [Preview] No. 55666 del
>>55654
>and they'd have no way of checking if they're actually members
That's fairly easy to check
>Still a necessary and useful pursuit.
Never claimed otherwise
>Because without getting EVERYONE at once, any individual state/country going off the rails will be promptly laid low, and replaced by whomever might be waiting in the wings
Not everyone, just the 50% + 1 majority. But I guess there are at least some power checks and internal consistency mechanisms, original Freemasons were a smart bunch, so I guess some of that survived to this day.
>Better to train your own people
You'd need a clear definition of what constitutes a nation then. Something that's unimaginable in the current political climate.

Are you sure you are not just projecting your own views on Freemasonry? As in, you present it what you wish it to be rather than what it actually is.


Anonymous 09/16/2017 (Sat) 15:42:02 Id: eb91a0 [Preview] No. 55668 del
>>55666
>That's fairly easy to check
Yea, by going through their Grand Lodge. And if they're both big GLs, that's doubling up on more paperwork than they really want to do. It *should* be easier now, with like electronic passports and shit. But i'd say we're still a decade out from that.
>Never claimed otherwise
My bad.
>Not everyone, just the 50% + 1 majority.
Potentially yes, but then you'd have an Antients/Moderns schism again, where people would just drop the changing side and set up another one back the way things used to be, so that 49% will quickly regain friends.
You're right that there are some clever mechanisms in place for such a decentralised group of organisations.
>You'd need a clear definition of what constitutes a nation then.
True. It's easy to get lazy and just say the pre-1914 borders. But i think the minimum would be a unified ethnic group, and the larger would be a confederation of ethnic groups all pulling in the same direction.
>Are you sure you are not just projecting your own views on Freemasonry? As in, you present it what you wish it to be rather than what it actually is.
A bit. But that's mostly because it's primarily a lens requiring interpretation for best results. I just happen to find my views in it far more easily than others, and can see the opposition or absence of other views.


Anonymous 09/16/2017 (Sat) 16:59:21 Id: 1e890c [Preview] No. 55673 del
>>55668
You can have a simple chip-card with encrypted data proving your membership, just like you have a bus card or a door key card.
>Potentially yes, but then you'd have an Antients/Moderns schism again
Well, that would support my hypothesis about the original Freemasonry being something else. Before Jews and other wealthy people started causing various schisms (known and unknown)
>It's easy to get lazy and just say the pre-1914 borders
Borders=nation is civic nationalism at it's finest. Also, migrations of ethnic groups have happened. A Dutch minority in SA is not African by any means, just like Jews are not European. Even Britain could be divided in roughly 3 ethnic groups according to predominance of certain characteristics, which would then have to be reconnected with their brethren overseas.
>I just happen to find my views in it far more easily than others, and can see the opposition or absence of other views.
Fair enough.


Anonymous 09/16/2017 (Sat) 17:43:17 Id: eb91a0 [Preview] No. 55676 del
>>55673
>You can have a simple chip-card with encrypted data proving your membership, just like you have a bus card or a door key card.
Oh it's been proposed, don't worry. But then cost is brought up, or the old guys don't understand it. And you'd have to have everyone on it, which means organising hundreds of rival organisations. It'll happen one day, but again, probably not soon.
>Well, that would support my hypothesis about the original Freemasonry being something else.
Except the schism was about the placement of side degrees, and we pretty much went back to how it was. So nothing really changed.
>Borders=nation is civic nationalism at it's finest.
That's why i said lazy. Combo of blood and earth is best.


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>>55662
Thanks for the names and addresses.


Anonymous 09/17/2017 (Sun) 20:12:50 Id: 1e890c [Preview] No. 56154 del
>>55676
Maybe you can start educating other FM's into nationalism? You know, become the next Oswald Mosley.


Anonymous 09/18/2017 (Mon) 00:57:42 Id: eb91a0 [Preview] No. 56161 del
>>56154
Two steps ahead of you, dude. Always working on things like that. It's a slow, but subtle process.


Anonymous 09/19/2017 (Tue) 02:27:35 Id: b8836b [Preview] No. 56217 del
MASONS CONFIRMED CRUST OF PIZZAGATE

WE LAST HOPE OF THE REPUBLIC NAO


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Anonymous 09/19/2017 (Tue) 15:48:56 Id: 1b07fe [Preview] No. 56236 del
>>56218
I am catching up on this but fuckin a THIS IS WHY CHANSONRY SHOULD NOT HAVE BEEN FUCKED WITH MORE THAN IT ALREADY WAS TO THE FUCKING POINT 2 ANONS SPONTANEOUSLY DECIDED TO TRY AND MAKE THE SHADOW FREEMASONRY NOT AUTOMATICALLY GIVEN THE "DINDOO" EXCUSE. IT DIDNT NEED THE consider the following whine thread shit. calm the fuck down WHEN THERE IS MOMENTS OF APOTHEOSIS.
RIGHTEOUS ANGER. ITS OK TO BE ANGRY. WE ALL CAN BE FOOLED.

its not all about feeling smart and streetwise and memes this is the fucking worst kind of possibility of who the illuminati is. Its just fucking normal people who are terroristically trained to live normal life and cult life. good self bad self. These people can not and would rather not try to stop what they are doing because when you have some of the higher level demons in you its impossible to get out of the fake personality it has created for you. You will see pta mothers just stab a mexican kid to death with the most cunty looking face and if the man in the apron rings a bell in her face she is back to making brownies in the kitchen. This is what traumatic mind control is its the shriner joke way of making a joke out of not only your life but your family and the future of your kind. There is nothing more angering than an asshole laughing because laughing is the "evil" thing to do. like if 9 masons are all in agreement that their brother should not have had to give his child to moloch or something like that. All it takes is one of these coward tough guy to laugh like a big fat man about whatever bitch thing they are obligated to do. He will laugh if anything happens because its his mask he is the bilikus. The big dirty man ah ha ha aha. But thats not humor. Humor is being on the other side pranking your worried brothers who are making everything seem like a nightmare. You dont care you are chewing on a reed wearing a Hawaiian shirt and a toilet seat over your neck. Leak a few mirth mounds and keep the nerds on their toes.


That is the true ruse ill say.


Anonymous 09/19/2017 (Tue) 16:17:33 Id: 1b07fe [Preview] No. 56237 del
>TO THE FUCKING POINT 2 ANONS SPONTANEOUSLY DECIDED TO TRY AND MAKE THE SHADOW FREEMASONRY NOT AUTOMATICALLY GIVEN THE "DINDOO" EXCUSE.
I dont even understand that the way I worded it. I didnt make the original chansonry thread. Me and another anon where talking about chanology but with freemasonry. What I meant is the environment was such that the day chansonry started was like an hour after I learned jim was a mason on 8chan. Like then it was go-time and thank god there are guys in the trenches like with senate anon but fucking a we had a fucking momentum going and there was some looking the other way as obvious clear non-chan posters where carted in to basically act as a masonic defense posing as oldfags, I dont care about the spamming of the thread you know thats raiding its badass. But to give the excuse to have the fake posters start posting on 8chan in agreement that chansonry was promigulated by the very type of non-chan users that where sent to 8chan december 2015 after chansonry. They started fucking threatening me with spoilers throughout threads and now it would have been called out but there was a dark time between coming here and being bashed (made me a better poster and constructive criticism) and the first few chansonry threads. I was threatened in red text all kinds of "just a heads up the masons are monitoring this thread" pictures where being made. These posters have mostly left or only post in order to contribute to the imagined interest in like a kek energy thread or to shift the blame to either jews the feds or they will wikipedia someone tangentially involved in whatever and try and get a ruckus over shit like tweeting liberals and nonsense to deflect. On 4chan they where getting kind of nervous I have only seen them that nervous a few other times the senate anon basically is a source an inside source corroborating things that I secretly hope are not real.. Very sobering.


Anonymous 09/19/2017 (Tue) 16:29:25 Id: 1b07fe [Preview] No. 56238 del
its never comfortable ever to talk about masons. You do not shame people who are anonymously talking about the masons. Just dont do it because every one of us is capable of telling it like it is and you can not marginalize that as spurious conspiracy theorizing. It may be that persons cry for help or their fucking nugget of info they have that takes the understanding to the next level. Dont even shame blatantly wrong conspiracies dont promote them but these people have created society around themselves as blind-spots. If someone is pointing to something you didnt see then but see now then LET THEM POINT SHIT OUT.


Anonymous 09/19/2017 (Tue) 17:18:08 Id: d7367f [Preview] No. 56244 del
The Punishment of the Freemasons


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Anonymous 09/19/2017 (Tue) 17:30:48 Id: d7367f [Preview] No. 56246 del
Officially, Freemasonry was born in 1717, when 4 Craft Lodges gathered at the Apple Tree Tavern in London, and set up a constitution for Free and Accepted Masons, written by Anderson… but they claim their roots can be traced to Egypt, Syria, Babylon… and the stonecutters of the Solomon Temple, specially "Hiram Abiff" (1R.7, 2Cr.2,4), a celebrated figure because of his death-defying refusal to reveal trade secrets to intruders… the "Jesus Christ" for many Masons… though it is "an irony", because the Temple of Solomon was not built with stones, but with wood, brought by another "Hiram", the King of Tyre (1R.5,9). - Source: w ww.religion-cults.com
What The Evil Freemasons Do- The Local And City Level Secret Shadow Government Enforcers
The Masons- a reader just wrote to me telling me I never mention the Masons, so I must be one. That reader must be a newcomer.
Here is my take on the Masons: they are, at the city and county level what the shadow government uses to make sure that which is not written in law gets enforced at the city and county level, to make sure the laws are uniform everywhere.
There is no law against selling in the streets But the Masons make good and sure that at the city level it is illegal, to make damn good and sure anyone who is out a job is irrevocably screwed. It would also be the masons that are making things like yard sales with permit only and allowed once a year at most. It would be the Masons making lemonade stands illegal without a permit. All of this is at the city level, there is no law against lemonade stands. This way, it can be claimed America is a free country because everything is legal, but you don't see it on the streets, the streets are DEAD.
Another thing the masons have done is get uniform building codes into all cities at the city level. There is no law against having a concrete home anywhere, but try building one - it will get bulldozed because it is against the law at the city level EVERYWHERE. Concrete costs about 30 percent as much to build with as wood, and is superior in ALL ways. Now they are skating on that saying oh, concrete is legal but it is NOT, unless you pour it inside styrofoam blocks, that ensure even a concrete home can be burned to the ground. That's the bench mark, it has to burn to the ground on demand or it is not legal. That way the second amendment is gutless, because you can't set up a fortified stronghold in an average home.
Try Mexico - a country that was not as free as America was in the past, but still has a fair amount of its original freedom. Everything is solid concrete and brick that won't burn and lasts for centuries. Everyone sells in the streets on a whim - it is the ultimate safety net. The Masons did not destroy Mexico that way.
I could go into further detail, but have to go get Claudia. Basically what the Masons have done is made it impossible to exercise constitutional rights that are still perfectly legal, but you can't get away with it, like driving without a license.

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Anonymous 09/19/2017 (Tue) 23:12:38 Id: 839732 [Preview] No. 56257 del
>>56246
Good pack. I remember the knights templar one. I don't know if /leaked/ is one guy but as someone who has always wanted there to be a masonic pack having lurked /leaked/ I am thankful for all of the work that you do. Much more so now that my little niche intrest has been catered to. Some of them look like ron paul memes and I ignore a lot of them but every now and then I will check out like a buildiberg archive and its always pretty thorough.


Anonymous 09/19/2017 (Tue) 23:41:32 Id: 1e890c [Preview] No. 56258 del
>>56244
>Traitors of America
>Doesn't know that USA was founded by Freemasons and built on Masonic principles

Maximum fat.

But any information exposing these criminals is good, even if it comes from a delusional christcuck. TL;DR There is nothing wrong with original Freemasonry, all of their misdeeds are a result of kikes infiltrating and taking over that society long ago. Just like any other that had at least a bit of social influence.


Anonymous 09/20/2017 (Wed) 01:30:44 Id: 7d00fa [Preview] No. 56261 del
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So i saw there was a new ben garrison comic today and he is the fucker this time. With all the globalist swamp talk. The sandnigger walking out of court doing the yoni all the rumors and shit going on. He decided to make a little infographic of the swamp. Just a few issues here. WHY THE FUCK IS THERE EVERY SYNONYM FOR GLOBALIST WRITTEN ON THE WATER AND NOT A SINGLE MASONIC SYMBOL? WHY IS HE PURPOSEFULLY AVOIDING MASONRY? IS IT BECAUSE THE MARCH TO TYRANNY TRIGGERED THE JEW EDITS AND HE WONT TOUCH THE SUBJECT ANYMORE? If he was/is a mason he would even make a masonic pun or do something to show he is in the know this is the fucking worst thing I have ever seen.


Anonymous 09/20/2017 (Wed) 02:36:21 Id: eb91a0 [Preview] No. 56262 del
>>56238
>shame
Go back to tumblr, you little girl.

>>56258
>Doesn't know that USA was founded by Freemasons and built on Masonic principles
No, it was built by traitors, working against Masonic principles due to a misunderstanding of them.
Like the whole elective thing. It only works in a lodge because of the scope, and everyone there is a willing participant.


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>>56262
its not like a fatshaming thing. When I say shame I am not talking about having someone challenge my theory and therefore have to respond. I am not saying shame as an excuse not to back up unverifiable claims. I am referring to a memory I had of a pedowood thread a few years back. I had seen a whole reply chain about "mk ultra symbolism" and they claimed that the checkerboard pattern was a cia symbol for mkultra. They tried to say it again for the 2 pillars as being on the same level of mk ultra theme as butterflies and that is when I suggested that the checkerboard and 2 pillars is also a masonic theme. What happened is 1 person said I was derailing the thread. Angered I respond with a photo of a lodge room with the pillars and chessboard floor. I received 3 replies in a row from 3 different people telling me that I am trying to basically obstruct the "hollywood elites" from being investigated by suggesting that fucking the wrong attribution of pillars and chessboard flooring as mk ultra triggers was also masonic themes. This was not when I started trying to dank meme my way past the dead weight stewarding the threads on /pol/. I did not make 30 random posts with music I posted what I said and was shamed. Basically threatened to stop talking about the plausible resolution to this hysterical pedowood thread on 4chan.

That kind of shit is what I mean. I want to be able to be proven wrong I want to talk about it.



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