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Conspiracies + historical narratives (proving and debunking) Anonymous 08/19/2017 (Sat) 10:52:22 Id: 2a38a1 [Preview] No. 51943
This thread serves as a spiritual successor to many lost threads, if I was to point at one specific thread I would point at the infamous "shill Hitler" thread

Many wiped threads on different topics can be found in jewgle cache, the archives of the endchan/pol/ catalog that contain the list of the threads that are of interest can be found in archive.is, web.archive.org and possibly other archives
The threads in the cache contain all the links to files that are still kept in the endchan database, I don't know if they're permanently here or not but YOU can help everyone by making a backup of everything.

low effort shitposts, personal opinions with no arguments (muh cognitive dissonance) and off-topic discussion is not allowed here


Anonymous 08/19/2017 (Sat) 14:46:10 Id: 4ea6be [Preview] No. 51952 del
"Hitler was a jew or Rothschild" debunked. I will consider anyone not reading these infographics and continuing to shill as bannable offense shit posters, like the nigger spammer who admitted to being a kike and accused Hitler of "not being white" in this morning's spam attempt.
Edited last time by AdolfHitler on 08/19/2017 (Sat) 16:18:07.


Anonymous 08/19/2017 (Sat) 15:12:15 [Preview] No. 51955 del
Cognitive dissonance is an argument. If you don't want to accept, you have to provice a logical proposition and not just fall into eritic dialetics and spiral of ad hominem.
Ergo, many conspiracies here is based on nothing but a conjecture of dissociated pieces of non-falsifiable evidences.


Anonymous 08/19/2017 (Sat) 15:20:20 Id: 4ea6be [Preview] No. 51957 del
>>51955
That is something I agree with. The hacks at freemason/pol/ suffer from extreme cognitive dissonance. I simply didn't edit the OP because I gave my word I would never edit someone else's posts again. I do however, agree with "personal opinions with no arguments not allowed", which are technically cognitive dissonance. Not saying I'll ban for that, though. It's more of a suggestion. We can't ever expect imageboards to be civilized.
Edited last time by AdolfHitler on 08/19/2017 (Sat) 15:22:08.


Anonymous 08/20/2017 (Sun) 10:27:48 Id: 2a38a1 [Preview] No. 51998 del
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>>51952
There's no real evidence to support the Hitler jew theory, I agree. However him being a jew or not doesn't matter in the context of him possibly being a plant.
The reason I'm concerned about this is how easily Hitler got into a position of power, it is evident that jews already had a stronghold over Europe at the Weimar times and it's really strange that they've let the entire reich thing happen. And it was done with diplomacy too! That's almost as absurd as someone like Trumpstein or Paulberg being elected and changing the country as freemasonchanners fantasize.
I just don't know, after realizing just how much control over our minds they have that they actually present us with fake conspiracies on a plate such as pizzagate or sandy hook that frame them as murderers and pedophiles and are essentially just conspiracies in a conspiracy. The way they have absolute control over the internet but don't remove the Hitler stuff and many other things because they KNOW that it's not going to hurt them and that we'll never have access to the juicy stuff. The way they stage actual military conflicts and play both sides, this sort of thing. At this point you should at least be concerned about Hitler not being legitimate and just stop blindly following.
And lets not forget that the middle ground theory exists too, it is very possible that Hitler was a plant but one day the whole reich spectacle became a real reich.
>>51957
What I meant with "muh cognitive dissonance" is how some anons sperg out on issues because of their belief system. Abovementioned Pizzagatetards and Sandyhookers come to mind, "how come these conspiracies are fake, why would the establishment frame themselves as pedophiles and terrorists?".
If one day we'll, let's say, discover that the whole jewish circus was ran by a gentile clan who were at the very top all this time then many people would be challenged with cognitive dissonance because their core belief system is more static that concrete. This is one of the worst flaws in the way our minds work and it's really hard to rewire them because you're convinced that you are finally rewired time and time again, many endchanners think this way, masonchanners are convinced in this, aut-righters are, leftypol, kekistanis, everyone thinks they're super redpilled, just the possibility of their beliefs not being true simply feels absurd, I'm pretty sure we have all been there and are now embarassed at it, and at some stage people just don't know what's real or not anymore.
But even at this stage some still fall for this fallacy and think that they're finally redpilled
The most important lesson you should've learned by now are not jews, capitalists, brainwashing, shills or something else, but the fact that your current belief system could be massively flawed, that you might be exposed to an opinion that crushes it entirely and that you still probably don't think on your own.


Anonymous 08/20/2017 (Sun) 10:33:20 Id: 2a38a1 [Preview] No. 52000 del
And I think that your whole belief system should be built from scratch
For example, pretty much everyone thinks that jews want as many of us to be transexual as possible
But why?
This is just an observation, we don't know if it's what they really want or not, or what they're really trying to achieve with it, maybe they want a reactionary reaction to it, maybe not, we just see that it's happening, but things aren't as simple.


Anonymous 08/20/2017 (Sun) 12:15:47 Id: ab8aae [Preview] No. 52003 del
>>51998

Read the Anton Sutton book "Wall Street and the Rise of Hitler: The Astonishing True Story of the American Financiers Who Bankrolled the Nazis".
Hilter was like any other "president". His job was to contain the proletariat to make them work in the factories. The one who truly did all the economical change in the Reich is his minister of finance, who was not judge after the war, and continue his job in another place.

That's the whole thing; Hilter was as bad as the others. The whole jewish logic was brought during the first world war, there the jews, signing the Balfour agreement (really the Milner agreement) with UK, actually fought against Germany and so gave the country to UK (even though the jewish actually hated the Tsar, and so they actually were all suporting germany first to destroy the Tsar. That may explain why jews were used in the bolchevic revolution).
After the war, jews were seen as the one who brought Germany down.
During the second world war, it went even further, with the sionists declaring direct war again against Germany. They installed a boycott against it, no one could buy anything german out of germany. That explain why the germans reretaliated with jewish shops in germany. At some point in the war, the germans started to attack the jews and wanted to deport them, after like 30 years of nothing. But that's why. That's the whole story. No racial issue. Nothing else. It was simply a question of treason against germany during the first world war, and during the second. Moreover, I'm only talking about some so called jews, so zionist who don't represent the jews as a whole. Most of them didn't do anything in all of this.
Hilter and Germany was simply on the bad side of the event. But Hilter was the same ruler as all the others, with the same job to do (working for the high financial and industrial instances).

Who cares if the grand father of Hitler was jewish or not. I mean, it's not 8ch here. We can talk normally with people who accept that the official version is false. People have to understand that the most manipulated people are the jews themself. They haven't asked for shit. A lot of fear of antisemitism have been spreaded to force them to go in Israel. They are the primary target of the whole antisemitism propaganda.

People, trying to fight the current propaganda, actually fall for the 20' propaganda. And the whole material racial ideology is a 19' propaganda brought by the european socialists to push for colonisation, for cheap labour and free resources, to feed their factories.

I mean, I could take the exemple of the tortures and experiment done during the second world war. Everyone is talking about the germans, and the japanese (with the unit 721). But the truth is that EVERYONE did their monstruous experiment. The USA, the whole europe, germany, china etc...
They're all monsters. I would simply say that the winners are the worste monster, well, because they won. The biggest butchers.


Anonymous 08/20/2017 (Sun) 14:14:26 Id: 2a38a1 [Preview] No. 52005 del
>>52000
And let me clarify my position too
What we actually know is that there is propaganda concerning trannies that's floating around and that the creators of it are jews.
What we don't know is if the actual sponsors are jewish and what the propaganda is for, maybe they are expecting a reactionary reaction with the emergence of the "far-right", maybe they're going for reverse psychology (after all most people started hating trannies even more and there are infinitely more youtube "creators" criticizng the whole sjw stuff than actual sjw's, it's as if the sjw community is a small strawman with no following that exists just for this "skeptic movement" to criticize) or what if the purpose is demoralization, or even experimentation (I'll expand on this later on)
I'm pretty sure that many endchan users were still reacting to the tranny propaganda in a streamlined fashion in a way that they were programmed, as in "evil jews spreading the normalisation of insanity again" without a second thought, but things aren't that fucking simple.
Maybe they're testing the population by looking at how insane things can get and all of this is has the sole purpose of researching us, and the real deal with the real goal will arrive later if they see that the population is "ready" for their real plan, and I don't neccessarily mean pedo legalization, maybe it's something entirely different.
And don't forget that these people almost surely have profit in mind first, I very much doubt that they're insane fetishists that do these disgusting things just to watch the world burn.
What if it's really simple, that they just want to jew people for sex change operations, HRT's, queer clothing, makeup and hairdye.
Or maybe they want to discredit other movements with it, LGB people are retards but they're not insane, however now that they're LGBT all of them are viewed as an insane collective. Trannies are also used to discredit useful idiots like the womans movement, marxists, anarchists

Now, most likely it's a combination of all of the above, but things could be scary and even though I mentioned 20 different things it's still none of them and the real agenda is something entirely different

And trannies were just a random example, there are a million topics where many redpilled people still assume the default position they were programmed to by cuckchan and look at things at face value. What if the white genocide is not the goal but just the side effect, what if they just profit more from migrant labor, or they want to see primitive forms of racism emerge so that people fight each other and it's just D&C?

The purpose of this wall of text is not pushing the ideas I mentioned, but making you question your primitive assumptions that give easy answers, we'll probably die without knowing what the reason for all of this was.


Anonymous 08/20/2017 (Sun) 15:43:47 Id: c0e4ad [Preview] No. 52010 del
>>52003
>that the most manipulated people are the jews themself.

This can't be stressed well enough. What if their religion was made on purpose in order to shape them into what they are today?

>>52005
It's very possible that this entire scenario was made in order to cause a reaction. But the reaction they want is not the one which we had given them. They want to create a global war against Islam. They might get a global war against Jews instead.

The real question when approaching any conspiracy theory is, cui bono? For who's benefit?


Anonymous 08/20/2017 (Sun) 17:24:01 Id: 4ea6be [Preview] No. 52015 del
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>"Hitler was as bad as any other ruler".
>"Not all jews though". "Leave those poor manipulated jews alone."
>"Anti semitism".
>"Even though there was evidence he wasn't financed by the Rothschilds, he was financed by the Rothschilds."
>"Read a book about disparaging Hitler, don't see Hitler's own speeches."
Munich - April 12, 1922
After the War production had begun again and it was thought that better times were coming, Frederick the Great after the Seven Years War had, as the result of superhuman efforts, left Prussia without a penny of debt: at the end of the World War Germany was burdened with her own debt of some 7 or 8 milliards of marks and beyond that was faced with the debts of 'the rest of the world' - the so- called 'reparations.' The product of Germany's work thus belonged not to the nation, but to her foreign creditors: 'it was carried endlessly in trains for territorities beyond our frontiers.' Every worker had to support another worker, the product of whose labor was commandeered by the foreigner. 'The German people after twenty- five or thirty years, in consequence of the fact that it will never be able to pay all that is demanded of it, will have so gigantic a sum still owing that practically it will be forced to produce more than it does today.' What will the end be? and the answer to that question is 'Pledging of our land, enslavement of our labor-strength. Therefore, in the economic sphere, November 1918 was in truth no achievement, but it was the beginning of our collapse.' And in the political sphere we lost first our military prerogatives, and with that loss went the real sovereignty of our State, and then our financial independence, for there remained always the Reparations Commission so that 'practically we have no longer a politically independent German Reich, we are already a colony of the outside world. We have contributed to this because so far as possible we humiliated ourselves morally, we positively destroyed our own honor and helped to befoul, to besmirch, and to deny everything which we previously held as sacred.' If it be objected that the Revolution has won for us gains in social life: they must be extraordinarily secret, these social gains - so secret that one never sees them in practical life - they must just run like a fluid through our German atmosphere. Some one may say Well, there is the eight-hour day!' And was a collapse necessary to gain that? And will the eight-hour day be rendered any more secure through our becoming practically the bailiff and the drudge of the other peoples? One of these days France will say: You cannot meet your obligations, you must work more. So this achievement of the Revolution is put in question first of all by the Revolution. Then some one has said: 'Since the Revolution the people has gained Rights. The people governs!' Strange! The people has now been ruling three years and no one has in practice once asked its opinion. Treaties were signed which will hold us down for centuries: and who has signed the treaties? The people? No! Governments which one fine day presented themselves as Governments. And at their election the people had nothing to do save to consider the question: there they are already, whether I elect them or not. If we elect them, then they are there through our election. But since we are a self-governing people, we must elect the folk in order that they may be elected to govern us. Then it was said, 'Freedom has come to us through the Revolution.' another of those things that one cannot see very easily! It is of course true that one can walk down the street, the individual can go into his workshop and he can go out again: here and there he can go to a meeting. In a word, the individual has liberties. But in general, if he is wise, he will keep his mouth shut.


Anonymous 08/20/2017 (Sun) 17:25:56 Id: 4ea6be [Preview] No. 52016 del
>>52015
(2)
For if in former times extraordinary care was taken that no one should let slip anything which could be treated as lese-majeste, now a man must take much greater care that he doesn't say anything which might represent an insult to the majesty of a member of Parliament. And if we ask who was responsible for our misfortune, then we must inquire who profited by our collapse. And the answer to that question is that 'Banks and Stock Exchanges are more flourishing than ever before.' We were told that capitalism would be destroyed, and when we ventured to remind one or other of these famous statesmen and said 'Don't forget that Jews too have capital,' then the answer was: 'What are you worrying about? Capitalism as a whole will now be destroyed, the whole people will now be free. We are not fighting Jewish or Christian capitalism, we are fighting every capitalism: we are making the people completely free.' Christian capitalism' is already as good as destroyed, the international Jewish Stock Exchange capital gains in proportion as the other loses ground. It is only the international Stock Exchange and loan-capital, the so-called 'supra-state capital,' which has profited from the collapse of our economic life, the capital which receives its character from the single supra-state nation which is itself national to the core, which fancies itself to be above all other nations, which places itself above other nations and which already rules over them. The international Stock Exchange capital would be unthinkable, it would never have come, without its founders the supra-national, because intensely national, Jews. The Jew has not grown poorer: he gradually gets bloated, and, if you don't believe me, I would ask you to go to one of our health-resorts; there you will find two sorts of visitors: the German who goes there, perhaps for the first time for a long while, to breathe a little fresh air and to recover his health, and the Jew who goes there to lose his fat. And if you go out to our mountains, whom do you find there in fine brand-new yellow boots with splendid rucksacks in which there is generally nothing that would really be of any use? And why are they there? They go up to the hotel, usually no further than the train can take them: where the train stops, they stop too. And then they sit about somewhere within a mile from the hotel, like blow-flies round a corpse. These are not, you may be sure, our working classes: neither those working with the mind, nor with the body. With their worn clothes they leave the hotel on one side and go on climbing: they would not feel comfortable coming into this perfumed atmosphere in suits which date from 1913 or 1914. No, assuredly the Jew has suffered no privations! While now in Soviet Russia the millions are ruined and are dying, Chicherin - and with him a staff of over 200 Soviet Jews - travels by express train through Europe, visits the cabarets, watches naked dancers perform for his pleasure, lives in the finest hotels, and does himself better than the millions whom once you thought you must fight as 'bourgeois.' The 400 Soviet Commissars of Jewish nationality - they do not suffer; the thousands upon thousands of sub-Commissars -they do not suffer. No! all the treasures which the 'proletarian' in his madness took from the 'bourgeoise' in order to fight so-called capitalism - they have all gone into their hands. Once the worker appropriated the purse of the landed proprietor who gave him work, he took the rings, the diamonds and rejoiced that he had now got the treasures which before only the 'bourgeoisie' possessed. But in his hands they are dead things - they are veritable death-gold. They are no profit to him. He is banished into his wilderness and one cannot feed oneself on diamonds. For a morsel of bread he gives millions in objects of value. But the bread is in the hands of the State Central Organization and this is in the hands of the Jews: so everything, everything that the common man thought that he was winning for himself, flows back again to his seducers.


Anonymous 08/20/2017 (Sun) 18:17:42 Id: 4ea6be [Preview] No. 52023 del
>>52016
I deleted (3) through (7) because they were irrelevant.
Now from Hitler's speech at Berlin, Rheinmetall-Borsig works.
December 10, 1940.

My fellow countrymen, to take another instance where we are condemned: They claim to be fighting for the maintenance of the gold standard as the currency basis. That I can well believe, for the gold is in their hands. We, too, once had gold, but it was stolen and extorted from us. When I came to power, it was not malice which made me abandon the gold standard. Germany simply had no gold left. Consequently, quitting the gold standard presented no difficulties, for it is always easy to part with what one does not have. We had no gold. We had no foreign exchange. They had all been stolen and extorted from us during the previous fifteen years. But, my fellow countrymen, I did not regret it, for we have constructed our economic system on a wholly different basis. In our eyes, gold is not of value in itself. It is only an agent by which nations can be suppressed and dominated. When I took over the government, I had only one hope on which to build, namely, the efficiency and ability of the German nation and the German workingman; the intelligence of our inventors, engineers, technicians, chemists, and so forth. I built on the strength which animates our economic system. One simply question faced me: Are we to perish because we have no gold; am I to believe in a phantom which spells our destruction? I championed the opposite opinion: Even though we have no gold, we have the capacity for work. The German capacity for work is our gold and our capital, and with this gold I can compete successfully with any power in the world. We want to live in houses which have to be built. Hence, the workers must build them, and the raw materials required must be procured by work. My whole economic system has been built up on the conception of work. We have solved our problems while, amazingly enough, the capitalist countries and their currencies have suffered bankruptcy. Sterling can find no market today. Throw it at any one and he will step aside to avoid being hit. But our Reichsmark, which is backed by no gold, has remained stable. Why? It has no gold cover; it is backed by you and by your work. You have helped me to keep the mark stable. German currency, with no gold coverage, is worth more today than gold itself. It signifies unceasing production. This we owe to the German farmer, who has worked from daybreak till nightfall. This we owe to the German worker, who has given us his whole strength. The whole problem has been solved in one instant, as if by magic.

''''''''''''''''''''''
How is this relevant? It not only proves "Hitler wasn't behind the economic reform" wrong. These speeches prove against the banking interests. Many take joy in saying Wall Street and jewish bankers "financed Hitler." There is plenty of documented evidence that Wall Street and jewish bankers did indeed help finance Hitler at first, partly because it allowed the bankers to get rich and partly in order to control Stalin. However, when Germany broke free from the bankers, the bankers declared a world war against Germany. When we look at all the facts, the charge that "jews financed Hitler" becomes irrelevant. When Hitler came to power, Germany was hopelessly broke. The Treaty of Versailles had imposed crushing reparations on the German people, demanding that Germans repay every nation's costs of the war. These costs totaled three times the value of all the property in Germany. Private currency speculators caused the German mark to plummet, precipitating the worst hyper inflation of their time. A wheelbarrow full of 500,000 marks could not buy a loaf of bread. The national treasury was empty. Countless homes and farms were lost to speculators and to private jewish controlled banks.


Anonymous 08/20/2017 (Sun) 18:22:22 Id: 4ea6be [Preview] No. 52024 del
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>>52023
Germans lived in hovels. They were starving. Nothing like this had ever happened before, the total destruction of the national currency, plus the wiping out of people's savings and businesses. On top of this came a global depression. Germany had no choice but to succumb to debt slavery under international jewish bankers until 1933, when the National Socialists came to power. At that point the German government thwarted the international banking cartels by issuing its own money. World jewry responded by declaring a global boycott against Germany. Hitler began a national credit program by devising a plan of public works that included flood control, repair of public buildings and private residences, and construction of new roads, bridges, canals and port facilities. All these were paid for with money that no longer came from the private international bankers. The projected cost of these various programs was fixed at one billion units of the national currency. To pay for this, the German government, and not the international bankers, issued bills of exchange called Labor Treasury Certificates. In this way, the National Socialists put millions of people to work, and payed them with Treasury Certificates. Under the National Socialists Germany's money wasn't backed by gold, which was owned by the international bankers. It was essentially a receipt for labor and materials delivered to the government. Hitler said, "For every mark issued, we required the equivalent of a mark's worth of work done, or goods produced." The government payed workers in Certificates. Workers spent those Certificates on other goods and services, thus creating more jobs for more people. In this way the German people climbed out of the crushing debt imposed on them by the international bankers. Within two years, the unemployment problem of 7 million was cut in half, and Germany was back on its feet. It had a solid, stable currency with no debt and no inflation, at a time when millions of people in the United States and other Western countries controlled by international bankers were still out of work. Within five years, Germany went from the poorest nation in Europe to the richest. Germany even managed to restore foreign trade, despite the international bankers' denial of foreign credit to Germany, and despite the global boycott by jewish owned industries. Germany succeeded in this by exchanging equipment and commodities directly with other countries, using a barter system that cut the bankers out of the picture. Germany flourished, since barter eliminates national debt and trade deficits. Germany's economic freedom was as short-lived as Adolf Hitler's rule, but it left several monuments, including the famous Autobahn, the world's first extensive superhighway. This economic freedom made Hitler extremely popular with the German people. Germany was rescued from English economic theory, which says that all currency must be borrowed against the gold owned by a private and secretive banking cartel, such as the Federal Reserve or the Central Bank of Europe, rather than issued by the government for the benefit of the people. The main reason why the bankers arranged for a world war against Germany was that Hitler sidestepped the bankers by creating his own money, thereby freeing the German people. Worse, this freedom and prosperity threatened to spread to other nations. Hitler had to be stopped.


Anonymous 08/20/2017 (Sun) 18:44:26 Id: 77bebd [Preview] No. 52027 del
What we are seeing from the discussion is yes, all sides had bad. War brings down the binds that keep civility operating. "Day of the rope"? Really? "The Purge"? REally? I mean what Jews are feeding their own children (See the zombie movie where they flee to Israel) and the goy as well, is oatmeal. They must and do then, tell their own offspring privately, of how gold works. As above, it is explained that Hitler had merit. We can all see he had merit as a plain brave German soldier, prior to WW2. Thus, why not discuss the aspects of his career? When he infiltrated the German lefties, was he _under_ Rohm's command? I am guessing he was. So, Gen. Von Schleiger and then Rohm, and then Adolf. So, during long knives purge, it is Goering who announces to the BBC that "General Von Schleiger was shot resisting arrest." ...So, Hitler had more jukes and jibes and stuttersteps than pistol pete marovitch. I agree he was clever enough to manipulate them. Point is, people crave jobs, and simplicity. Jobs = bills get paid. As poster above explains, "paid" means whatever one wants. And also poster above is correct that credit and gold interests fucked with Germany's money. JP Morgan went to Germany and offered a deal, they said no, and the gold was withdrawn, obliterating the german mark. After that, Hitler had the freedom to pay people in fucking walnut shells if he wanted to. So in some ways, he took advantage of situation. Certainly, as a conspiracy researcher, I do not believe he died in his bunker. I think he would let others die and he'd flee. To the hard core Hitlerites, that hurts. Goebbles and all his lovely babies, were in there, but where was Hitler? You see? So either he died heroically, or there was more going on. Notice Mengele was not really pursued, they all knew where he was. Now, notice also that Merkel looks identical to Adolf. Thus, surely this had to do with bloodlines. But witch ones.


Anonymous 08/20/2017 (Sun) 18:47:31 Id: ab8aae [Preview] No. 52028 del
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>>52010

Their religion have been manipulated and the old testament have been modified. It have been proven by Spinoza, and many others.
You need to look at Esdras. He's the one who actually made judaism a racial religion, and he actually, when installing himself in Judea, actually deported out of Judea the real judeans, the real believers. He modified the old testament for political purpose.

But not even talking about that, there is no more of a "jews race". The "atheist" jews telling that they are descendings of the hebrews is false. The concept of jewish people who had to go back on their holy land is a pure sionist creation.
I even heard from jews (practicing judaism) that they cannot go back on their holy land before their messiah have appeared. The sionists, them want to force the coming of the messiah by rebuilding the third temple.
The israelie historian Shlomo Sand in his book "The Invention of the Jewish People" even tell that the judeans never left the actual palestine. In fact, the palestinian are the real descending of the judeans, who mostly have converted to islam.
So the sionist, on multiple lies, that the jewish race still exist, and a treason to God since he has forbidden them to go back, are actually killing in mass palestinians who may be the real descendings of the judeans.

This one thing is very complicated, and you certainly need a lot of history. Because the people, who are the descendings of the first enemy of humanity, Cain, are the israeli people (I'm talking about the people who killed Jesus), and in fact are not attached to judaism (since they're descending from Cain, they're from time when judaism didn't even exist). It's pretty much the opposite. They are the one who destroyed judaism, and so were practicing a false religion, have then contaminated the other religions with the Sabbatai Zevi and Jacob Franck, the some kind of christian and islamic equivalent. They haven't destroyed christianity and islam as much as they did with judaism though. If you want an exemple, Nemrod is one of them.

The truth from my point of view, is that they're all satanists, and directly descending from Cain. If you want to trace them, trace the worste massacres and wars in history. Because that's their ideology: the redemption by sins. Yeah, that sounds crazy, but they think that by doing the worste and most evil possible, they could get good, and their messiah in return. Their goal, as satanists, is to make the biggest blasphemy ever possible. Bringing back to their land the cursed and banned judeans who followed Esdras and tried to kill Jesus, expanding on the world the lust of the sodomites etc.., are pretty harsh blasphemies.

And it's just an sketch of the reality. The "rabbit hole" goes very deep. Judaism is the first and oldest abrahamic religion, so that's pretty normal that it's the most corrupted one.
So YEAH, it's not all the jews, it's not all the atheists, it's not all the christians, it's not all the muslims. I don't know where this bullshit comes from, but seriously we need to stop with the generalisation.


Anonymous 08/20/2017 (Sun) 19:12:55 Id: 5aa556 [Preview] No. 52031 del
>>52028

Good points about the donmeh/sabbateans. One thing I would argue tho: They talk about their evil messiah but the whole point is they all embody that messiah in their rituals of evil. So, once you understand all that you said, one realize they dispose of some % of their own cadre, and this is the "snake eating its tail" analogy, the tail, that gets eaten, was not unlike a disposable tail some lizards will have where the tail literally drops off and flips around while the body escapes. In this way one can grasp the ourobos image and relte it to their cults, as they only see the eating head, as mattering. For example, Goering, Himmler, Goebbles, all got played, but Bohrmann and Hitler, hmm, not so sure. Mengele did just fine he had the best retirement plan it seems?. So I am saying they would be destroyed if their actual messiah came, he is a fire that they know, would eat them completely. In essence --and I don't know if it's directed by atheists or just evil ritual cults, but salvation for the entire world is but one sermon away. If one sermon were given in the right place, it would spread into synagogues and mosques and churches and homes. So, I am saying, they constrict the world, inside the ouborus and we are made to watch some portions of the snake, but we argue as to hmm, what was Hitler up to? Who was his mom and dad eh? But that's silly considering the economic data which is 99% solid verifiable. Also I would point to the film "Margin Call" where we see the collapse of Bear Stearn --a Rothschild front. Indeed IRL BS was eaten by another snake, "JP Morgan" --Another Rothschild front. And, in the film, we see the younger protege, "Jared" is a golden boy type, doesn't he resemble Hymie Diamond? And what's funny is the film shows how the sales department (selling bullshit hypothecated shit) all sell out their entire books, for a measly couple million dollar payday. This displays how easly markets can be crashed and how worthless some humans are, when "lifetime size" money is tossed onto the table in front of them. After the whole event goes down, in the film, and BS is wrecked, Mr. Tuld/Fuld is chomping his meal and says blatantly "WE DO IT" he means him and his buddy, he means BS and JP Morgan DO IT TO US and the us, is we the people who sell out whole nations to their fucking horrible debtshcemes. Fuck debt. That's what Jesus AND Hitler would say.


Anonymous 08/20/2017 (Sun) 19:41:23 Id: c0e4ad [Preview] No. 52033 del
>>52028
What if Cain was actually the good guy? You take that story from a Christian perspective while forgetting that Christianity was the liberalism of it's day, the mainstream ideology/religion of the ruling elites.

Jews were conditioned by their genes (that are not a coincidence either) and their religion into becoming what they are. One could say that they were indeed "engineered' by some higher intelligence.

Judaism was never destroyed, it destroyed the original religion of Canaan (the land of Cain) just like Christianity destroyed the ethnic religions of Europe and Islam destroyed the authentic religions of Middle East.

And we have witnessed just how much a genetic structure of a region can change by foreign invasions backed by toxic and inorganic religions.

>>52031
>one realize they dispose of some % of their own cadre, and this is the "snake eating its tail" analogy

Snake eating it's own tail is a symbol of base materiality constantly consuming itself (life and death cycle) and perpetual change, it has nothing to do with disposing your own cadre.


Anonymous 08/20/2017 (Sun) 19:51:08 Id: 4ea6be [Preview] No. 52034 del
>>52027
>where were Hitler's children?
>and night of long knives.
Hitler and Eva Braun did not have a chance to sire children. Penis in vagina does not immediately equal babies. This is why couples "try". Their relationship obviously wasn't platonic, and they clearly didn't have a chance to bear children. Now onto the night of long knives, as explained by the man himself who doesn't lie like modern politicians. Can you imagine a modern politician addressing this type of issue with such candor?

Hitler's speech to the Reichstag, Berlin. July 13, 1934
h ttp://der-fuehrer.org/reden/english/34-07-13.htm
(Copying and pasting the text is immense, so I recommend you read this link before consistently nursing these "Hitler is bad in some way or another" thoughts.)

Read it, for fuck's sakes. Don't continue without doing so. Now imagine you cross insurmountable odds after joining a party of only 7 members, going door to door to recruit people. And only after a local newspaper decides to spread your movement do those numbers grow. People wake up to the truth because that's all you speak. However, your party struggles as hundreds of jews attack public meetings and are fought back. As your group is banned from public speeches. Only going to prison raises your fame exponentially. And then there's this bastard who's men get drunk and harass civilians, causing all sorts of mischief, one of your own men, plotting to overthrow you after all your hard work. And if you don't give in, your death would be necessary, but this man considers you to be a weakling. I don't know how much of a pacifist you are, but I would have ordered his death just the same.

I can easily cover any other "Hitler bad" issues you've got. Though it seems to me to make such statements could be jewish subversion, perhaps you are simply misinformed. After all, every one of us is brought up through educational indoctrination that Hitler was the villain. Once you clear the holocaust hoax, you may still have ingrained revulsion against Hitler and the NSDAP whom we were all raised to believe where "evil Nazis".


Anonymous 08/20/2017 (Sun) 22:44:20 Id: ab8aae [Preview] No. 52055 del
>>52033

Man, sorry to tell, but all you're saying doesn't make the slighest sense. Don't try to invent things.


Anonymous 08/24/2017 (Thu) 07:01:55 Id: d165c9 [Preview] No. 52181 del
>>52028

Kill yourself, Christian Identity shit.


Anonymous 08/24/2017 (Thu) 10:32:51 [Preview] No. 52184 del
>>52181
>look at me, mom. I'm so edgy xD


Anonymous 08/25/2017 (Fri) 16:12:12 Id: cbc7c5 [Preview] No. 54746 del
How do you believe in an ideology where the founder, Hitler, was a proven psychopath? Even in 1943 psychologists knew it and wrote a secret report predicting he would kill himself.
h ttps://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Mind_of_Adolf_Hitler#


Anonymous 08/25/2017 (Fri) 16:54:11 Id: 4ea6be [Preview] No. 54750 del
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>>54746
>jewpedia is a "reliable source"
It also promotes the holocaust as real and disparages deniers. When will you people realize that kike sources and writers who employ kikes lie about Hitler? In Langler's instance, it was jew Dr. Steve Rosen. Langer was employed by the Office of Strategic Services to disparage Hitler. Langer the spook also insists in "The Mind of Adolf Hitler" that he was jewish, homosexual, and ate feces. What about this sounds like the truth to you? If all of it, you're a kike yourself. If you believe none of it, you're not a complete fucking moron.


Anonymous 08/26/2017 (Sat) 17:18:12 Id: a8cef3 [Preview] No. 54781 del
>>52184

C.I. niggers need to be castrated, or alternatively, sent to live in Israel with their White Hebrew Israelite brothers.


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Anonymous 08/26/2017 (Sat) 23:31:55 Id: c0e4ad [Preview] No. 54805 del
>>54746
Low effort bait Chaim. First of all, Hitler was not it's only founder, secondly, he was a Jew with one testicle etc etc.


Anonymous 08/27/2017 (Sun) 02:02:27 Id: 4ea6be [Preview] No. 54815 del
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>>54805
>le Hitler was a jew again
Don't tell me you're serious.


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>>54819
>drive.google.com


Anonymous 08/27/2017 (Sun) 08:12:31 Id: 2a38a1 [Preview] No. 54826 del
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So, is this really the end? Are there even legit conspiracy sites out there? It seems like everything is either stuff that we already know or bs like Pizzagate, "it's the globalists" and cultural marxism
>>54820
I haven't opened it, but if it's the way you quoted then it sounds like a forgery done by schizophrenics (read: freemasonchan)


Anonymous 08/27/2017 (Sun) 16:58:56 Id: 4ea6be [Preview] No. 54835 del
>>54826
This board is not that active. Pizzagate, "globalists" (when said, it's jews or jew tools trying to avert attention from them) and anti-cultural marxism isn't very prevalent here. We did have 9/11 conspiracy truths revealed, but then during the event of Unknown shilling hard against it as he simultaneously revealed himself to be the spammer, it wasn't brought up again. The Boston Marathon bombing has been brought up, the fakery of the holohoax, as well as freemasonry, vietnam and the Charlottesville false flag. I'd suggest posting what you believe are conspiracies.


Anonymous 08/27/2017 (Sun) 18:55:39 Id: 2a38a1 [Preview] No. 54836 del
>>54835
>what you believe are conspiracies
The normal /pol/ stuff (the ones that can be proven with logical connections because I don't believe in what usually qualifies as evidence), the conspiracy to forge conspiracies that are used to feed tinfoilers with disinformation (the abovementioned globalists, pizzagate, cultural marxism e.t.c.) e.t.c. I also don't care about individual terrorist attacks and false flags because it's a dead end, I have no knowledge about Charlottesville or other recent events for example because it's just a waste of time to research it.
I was not criticizing endchan by the way, you got my post wrong, what I meant was if the information posted on endchan is the most "secret" you can get, because other conspiracy websites focus on either bullshit or stuff that I already know.
I was asking if there are sites that go deeper and how you are even supposed to find them.


Anonymous 08/27/2017 (Sun) 21:47:31 Id: 4ea6be [Preview] No. 54841 del
>>54836
I'm not sure what you mean by deeper. Rabbi Mordechai's son Karl Marx(ism) is always a threat and commies can eat shit. When people start waxing about "muh secret nazis in antarctica actually run da gobbament" or Alex Jones tier bullshit about Muslims in every position of power, they're full of it. This includes tall white alien or reptilian shapeshifter politicians and "the Illuminati"/"globalists" to avoid calling out jews. Then there are the "Venetians run everything" theorists. It's not deeper, just disinfo. I'm considered crazy by saying "jews are all the major media CEOs" to people in person but it's the truth and they all come over eventually. As for me, I'm only interested in facts.

http://www.sunray22b.net/who_controls_television__who_con.htm
At the bottom, there are links that reveal a hell of a lot more than the media.

But if you want to hang out with those who obsess compulsively over masons, there's >>>/horror/
Editing because I went full retard with my typos.
Edited last time by AdolfHitler on 08/27/2017 (Sun) 22:03:42.


Anonymous 08/27/2017 (Sun) 22:40:49 Id: 6757a4 [Preview] No. 54843 del
>>54841
Venetians run everything because they're Jews, the Bavarian Illuminati is controlled by Jews and Jesuits of which the Jesuits are crypto Jews, of which are controlled by Venetians who are crypto Jews that control the Vatican because they're infested crypto Jews. That being said, here's an actual "politically incorrect" thing to say in a "politically incorrect" taiwanese cartoon website forum: Jews only control the perception of control, metapolitics. Metapolitics isn't actual politics. Any political system can in theory function, it fails to function because of metapolitics. Here's another claim: ontological evil exists ontologically, not genetically nor culturally, but beyond existential factors. In other words, some people are merely born evil. Most Jews are merely some of those that get away with being culturally evil, but it is because there's ontological evil that some Jews can cooperate with those that are not Jews, invoking the evil within others to perpetuate their own evil within themselves. The third concept I'll say here is the most controversial one that you hate: all metapolitics is inherently ontologically evil. Politics isn't evil, but metapolitics is, it corrupts politicians, merchants, priests, soldiers, scribes (from academia to law and everything in between) in pretending to be a sheep. People can only politically get rid of a metapolitical system of control as policy, but to do that, you need to override their metapolitical system with your own or "out Jew" them by way of deception. There's no way around these three statements.


Anonymous 08/27/2017 (Sun) 23:25:38 Id: c0e4ad [Preview] No. 54845 del
>>54843
>the Bavarian Illuminati is controlled by Jews and Jesuits

They pretty much hated Jesuits.

Here is some food for thought for you, I hope you realize, as many other people in here do, that most popular conspiracy websites are disinfo shilling ops run by kikes. If pretty much all of them name Illuminati as the ones controlling the world (which is certainly not true), and if they most fiercely attack them, what if they are actually the good guys? What if they are the ones kikes fear the most?

Regarding ontological evil, you will better understand it when you start observing the archetypes and noticing the patterns. The real enemy is something much greater than either Jews, Freemasons, or any other group or organization that willingly or unwillingly enacts it's will. To an archetype, even the greatest manipulators are naught but puppets.


Anonymous 08/27/2017 (Sun) 23:36:30 Id: 4ea6be [Preview] No. 54846 del
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>>54845
The "Illuminati" is the perpetuated boogeyman, not something kikes fear. International jewry/Zionism is actually the implied definition of what "the Illuminati" is. Jews feared the Italian mafia because they used the exact same subversive murdering and deceiving tactics as they do. Very similar to the Mossad. This is why families were infiltrated and taken out. Those that remain as "secret" organizations only do so when they're the good goy wops that capitulate to the kikes. Jews are of course paranoid about surrounding Muslim countries that could crush them from all sides, but America's one of many good goys that does their fighting for them. I'm stating the painfully obvious about that last point. We all know it.


Anonymous 08/28/2017 (Mon) 00:19:03 Id: c0e4ad [Preview] No. 54850 del
In theory, it's the organization devoted to finding the knowledge, truth, and reason. Seems to be the anti-thesis of kikes who are creatures of deception, lies and irrationality. Kikes didn't manage to eliminate or infiltrate some of them, simply because they operate on a level that's unknowable to the kikes and other lowly creatures. It's a very different kind of intelligence.

Most Sunni Muslims are controlled by crypto-Jews and are subservient to Israel. Saudi royal family is as opposed to them as the British one is lol.


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Anonymous 08/28/2017 (Mon) 01:19:05 Id: 6757a4 [Preview] No. 54855 del
>>54845
>They pretty much hated the Jesuits
(((They))) created the Jesuits AND the Bavarian Illuminati. There were many groups generally called "Illuminati" but the first group that used that name (though in greek but not in latin) is the one made by Pythagoras of Samos, an Ionian Greek Mystic. The original Illuminati had been dead ever since the last Neo-Pythagorean died. The renaissance had failed to grasp Platonic logic as well as what the hell Zeno was trying to convey in his supposed "paradoxes" which aren't actually paradoxes but a failure to understand incommensurability. The second "Illuminati" is the Los Alumbrados, it was formed in the kingdom of Aragon by former Knights Templar that escaped persecution for their discoveries in the fertile crescent as well as their cooperation with the Venetian banking system that pretty much bankrupted Europe and created the economic dark age and their Genoan merchants brought the black plague through their boats from exotic lands. It's the Genoan flag that England uses. The St. George's flag, a red cross on a white field, was adopted by England and the City of London in 1190 for their ships entering the Mediterranean to benefit from the protection of the Genoese fleet. The English Monarch paid an annual tribute to the Doge of Genoa for this privilege. The Knights Templar paid tribute to the Venetians and are more loyal to them than to the Vatican, and it's from the Venetians that they had developed their own banking system, which some of their wealth was transferred to the Knights of Malta which their presence is also strong in England. Freemasonry is based off of Templarism. The Rosicrucians are merely a form of Templarism. The Los Alumbrados and the Rosicrucians were more or less one and the same time frame although one is Catholic as the Los Alumbrados became the Jesuits, another is Protestant, both funded the destruction of Christianity, both are full of Jews. The Jesuits became irrelevant but they had fled towards England with their Venetian masters while the Bavarian Illuminati that Adam Weishaupt had created (though a student of a Jesuit school and is merely a front for the Venetians via proxy through the Jesuits of which Ignatius Loyola himself was an agent of the Venetians). The Venetians used their knowledge in the bible as well as the Babylonian Talmud to dissuade certain monarchs from marrying for political gain. The Venetians are so intertwined with modern Pharisaic Judaism to the point that there's rumors of them making edits to some copies of the Babylonian Talmud. Sir John Dee (AKA: 007) the "Enochian" cooperated with Rabbi Judah Loew in the dark arts to guide Queen Elizabeth Stuart I based on astrotheological principles of which all forms of "magic" is based on alignments of the celestial bodies first and foremost, sacrifices and sex rituals are more secondary.

The real enlightened ones are those that understands both the Kosmos Aisthetos and the Kosmos Noetos.

You're still a faggot for even (hopefully) ironically claiming that Hitler was a Jew with one testicle, that's the exact same words that gay nigger spammer had said.


Anonymous 08/28/2017 (Mon) 02:15:15 Id: 4ea6be [Preview] No. 54856 del
>>54855
I never knew any of this about the Illuminati. Thought they were just a replacement word (like "globalists") for international Zionism in a cowardly attempt to avoid calling out jewry. Interesting. Also yes, saying disparaging shit about Hitler is one of the spammer's many favorite tactics. It's pretty much half of why I chose the Vol name, because Hitler pisses off that German cuck jew. The other being that since I've seen all of his available speeches and collected those that weren't recorded, the man was the only truthful "politician" I've ever known. He didn't put on a show of attacking his opposition and then back out when he made it to office. His enemies were put in their place. Compare to >>54825 I've already ranted before about how Hitler brought back 7 million unemployed, eliminated class, and produced the best economy from the worst depression.
Edited last time by AdolfHitler on 08/28/2017 (Mon) 02:19:12.


Anonymous 08/28/2017 (Mon) 02:26:21 Id: b3adbd [Preview] No. 54857 del
>>54856
But hitler made deal with bastard Zionists, it is a fact.
And is one of the reasons why israhell exists


Anonymous 08/28/2017 (Mon) 02:43:47 Id: 4ea6be [Preview] No. 54858 del
>>54857
The Haavara agreement. It was to get jews out of Germany. They need to be exiled to Israel, all of them. There wouldn't be so many in power these days if his system was allowed to spread. You like them being scattered in many other countries and pushing multi-culturalism everywhere else?


Anonymous 08/28/2017 (Mon) 03:19:13 Id: 6757a4 [Preview] No. 54859 del
>>54855
Whoops, an incomplete thought.

The Jesuits became irrelevant (because they were kicked out for general kikery tier militant mystic "Catholicism") but some of them had fled towards England with their Venetian masters while the ones that stayed in Europe kept it on the down low and kept on subverting the people through their Jesuit schools of which Adam Weishaupt went to a Jesuit college and is the "poster boy" leader of the Bavarian Illuminati which the Bavarian government kicked them out, but they were wherever there were revolutions in Europe among the Jacobinites and French Freemasons that sought to destroy France which was already independent from the Normans. The Normans were Venetian puppet monarchs but they later became the Venetians. Queen Mary Alexandra Elizabeth II has ancestry of the House of Guelph. the Genoan noble houses are a part of the Venetians which are sister republics.

There's two main concepts that makes up what I call "Templarism": the banking system of monetarism practiced in the temple of apollo, and the intel gathering spy network with any front, whether religious, political, economic, academic, militaristic, doesn't matter. In order to justify their own evil, they look good in all aspects of life while internally, doing the opposite among themselves internalizing and suppressing their evil through externalization and oppressing innocent people behind closed doors away from the public view. The Juden as the Israelites always did this and were exposed by their own God for such evil that they've created a bullshit excuse to depart from the Levitical system. I call anything that isn't of the Levitical system to be either anti Juden Christianity, or modern Judaism of which modern Judaism is primarily Pharisaic, secondarily a Jewish attempt to reconcile their cult with Hellenic rationalism and with other Eastern cults. Pro Juden Christianity were bred out as they've no longer have a physical king and their religious king/savior gone up to heaven long ago while they were ashamed to be by any cultural extension to be associated with Pharisaic Judaism, abandoned their own tongue and learned Greek and Latin.

Is Pharisaic, Rabbinic, Talmudic Judaism original Judaism/Israelism? No. Did Templarism come from the Pharisees? No, but they've sure adopted its model. So what is Templarism? Fundamentally, it's metapolitics. They use money to bypass anything and everything. A byproduct of metapolitics is "demonic" in its original sense since demons deal with distribution of fortunes, so they distribute fortunes for more fortune. In their irrational mindset, or rationalized attempt to explain the irrational, they partake in orgies, degenerate behavior, etc., at the expense of innocent children, which drinking their blood at the peak of adrenaline rush from fear and stress for adrenochrome is merely a coincidental attribute of a sick fuck that again, tries to rationalize the irrational, ignorant things that they do. Why the hell do Rabbis eat baby foreskins and suck the blood off of it? There's no rational answer to that.


Anonymous 08/28/2017 (Mon) 03:49:26 Id: b3adbd [Preview] No. 54860 del
>>54858
bullshit
The Jews were good in Germany, but someone said they are taking over business in Germany ...
Zionists are not Jews


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>>54860
Zionists are not jews is the dumbest thing I've ever read. Some jews are not Zionists is the truth. Some Zionist slaves are not wholly jewish. You can't say Hitler was "for" the jews/Zionists either without being full of shit. Read Mein Kampf. Pay attention to his speeches.
>>54859
Now, this guy's capable of rational thought and educating himself.


Anonymous 08/28/2017 (Mon) 12:01:04 Id: cbc7c5 [Preview] No. 54864 del
Global warming is not a myth and I finally found a history of the science that proves we are causing it and it will adversely affect us soon.
h ttps://history.aip.org/climate/rapid.htm#L_M015
h ttps://history.aip.org/climate/co2.htm#L_M022
h ttps://climate.nasa.gov


Anonymous 08/28/2017 (Mon) 17:26:29 Id: 4ea6be [Preview] No. 54867 del
>>54864
>nasa
Oh, sure. Davis Guggenheim is only the Director and Jeffrey Skoll Executive Producer of "An Inconvenient Truth". Joseph J. Romm, Senior Fellow of the Center for American Progress. Stephen H. Schneider, Professor of Environmental Biology and Global Change at Stanford. Michael E. Mann, Professor of Meteorology at Pennsylvania State. Gavin A. Schmidt, Climatologist at NASA Goddard Institute for Space Studies. Benjamin D. Santer, Climate Researcher at Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory. Todd D. Stern, Special Envoy for Climate Change, U.S. State Department. Richard L. Sandor, Chairman and Founder of the Chicago Climate Exchange.

Guess the nationality of each of them. This one's easy.


Anonymous 08/28/2017 (Mon) 21:27:16 Id: ab8aae [Preview] No. 54878 del
>>54864

No more global warming?
Where is the global warming? lol. The propaganda has changed, and you haven't even noticed. They changed it to"climate change", to cope with the failure of their propaganda.
But even here, you should know that climate always change. There is nothing like a static climate. Climate have always changed.
Now on what scale is the current changing?
CO2 rate in the earth is really growing up, that's true, but at what scale? Are we truly the responsible?
That's the question.

Now, about the question of where does the CO2 comes from.
Since 1993, the temperature haven't changed a single bite on earth (if you remove the Al nino etc..). During this period, we have emited 40% of all the CO2 humans have even emited since the 19e centurie.
We have moved from 0.03% to 0.04% of CO2 in the air during the 20e centurie. So we are certainly not in cause. What is really in cause? In fact, we don't know at all. There are some hypothesis, but nothing strong enough to be applied (solar activity for exemple).

About the question of the warming, and certainly why they have removed it from the propaganda, François Gervais, a professor at the university of Tours in France confirm that in the american studies, EVERY recent studies and high american professor are all saying that if we consume every single bite of fossil energy on earth, we would moved from 0.04% to 0.06% of C02 in the air (50%), and this will result according to the temperature variation of the last 25 years, to a raise of the temperature of 0.3°C (if the CO2 is doubled, then the temperature raise is of 0.6°C, from an article published in Earth science review, and a lot of others). This variation is btw very difficult to measure since the variation of temperature of the climat is at a higher scale. In fact, more recent are the articles and studies, the lower the variation of temperature is, since the models are being confirmed false.

So, to conclude, if we ever consume every fossil energy on earth, the temperature will raise by 0.3°C. So yeah, the temperature will raise, but at a ridicule scale, so little that it's hardly measurable because of the regular variation of temperature on the earth.

Now, is the question, why this gigantic worldwide campaign about the global warming - sorry - the ozone hole - sorry - (h ttps://archive.fo/UseLX) - climate change.
Why is europe spending a huge tone of money on this?
Why have they made a very easy hackable system of carbon trade exchange, that allowed monstrous VTA scam?

Dig my friend, dig down the rabbit hole. Search about who have all of these "eco-friendly" and solar panel/wind turbine companies. About how this global thread is actually a tool to push globalism. The entire world united against a common thread. How romantic.


Anonymous 08/28/2017 (Mon) 22:35:29 Id: c86c03 [Preview] No. 54881 del
h ttp://naturalclimatechange.us/

Oh boy, the greenies are back here again. If they really have a brain, they'll stop shoving green (((commie))) bullshit here.


Anonymous 08/29/2017 (Tue) 10:36:04 Id: 947f37 [Preview] No. 54904 del
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>>54878
>Why have they made a very easy hackable system of carbon trade exchange, that allowed monstrous VTA scam?

You mad, goy?


Anonymous 08/29/2017 (Tue) 10:52:48 Id: 947f37 [Preview] No. 54907 del
>>54845
>Here is some food for thought for you, I hope you realize, as many other people in here do, that most popular conspiracy websites are disinfo shilling ops run by kikes

No, they're disinfo shilling ops run by C.I.A. agents, many of whom are Kikes.


Anonymous 08/29/2017 (Tue) 11:01:26 Id: 947f37 [Preview] No. 54908 del
>>54836
>what I meant was if the information posted on endchan is the most "secret" you can get,

You'll find out from endchan that all the white nationalist groups are run by U.S. Govt. intelligence operatives, which is information that you won't find on any other sites.


Anonymous 08/29/2017 (Tue) 11:11:29 Id: 947f37 [Preview] No. 54909 del
>>54826
> Are there even legit conspiracy sites out there?

Nope. All conspiracy websites are owned by:

1. Government intelligence operatives.

or

2. Mentally ill people.


Anonymous 08/29/2017 (Tue) 13:29:10 Id: ab8aae [Preview] No. 54911 del
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>>54909

In my country, I can find some website who tells good stuff.
But you have to know them all, and know exactly who run them.
And believe me, even the one I follow, I would not be suprised that he was actually a plant from the beggining.

You have to check them all.
The best way to separate the truths from the lies, is to study everything, and read everything on the subject. It takes work, time, but at the end, you'll get the truth. In the case of political websites, that's the same.
Moreover, don't assume that it's because someone is honest one day that he'll stay honest after. You know, if I threaten to arm your family, you'd do anything, even though you're a very honest guy.

Moreover, and I don't know if it's a mistake at the end or not, I always aim for blogs/website with small audience. The smaller is the audience, the less threatening to (((them))) it is. But it's harder to find, and it would be like back in the days of internet, given by links and not by any search engine. I'm pretty sure that it's gonna end this way, when the censorship will truly operate at full range.


Anonymous 08/29/2017 (Tue) 16:30:55 Id: a5b4f5 [Preview] No. 54913 del
conspiracies are for mental retards who dont know anything


Anonymous 08/29/2017 (Tue) 16:41:56 Id: 88e217 [Preview] No. 54917 del
>>54913
I suppose that those that murdered Julius Caesar are stupid too...you fucking imbecile.


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>>54913

Plain insult without any argument or any historical facts.
There are retards and mentally ill people everywhere, and in this community too. But you certainly can't generalise.
Conspiracies have always existed, and since our world is in such a bad state with criminals everywhere and at the head of government, it's totaly normal that there is conspiracies everywhere.
Name it like you want, like "mafia business", or "lobbying", that's all the same.
But you certainly can't insult us with nothing. If you truly think that conspiracies don't exist, then give the proof.

David Rockfeller in his diary wrote:
" Some even believe we are part of a secret cabal working against the best interests of the United States, characterizing my family and me as "internationalists" and of conspiring with others around the world to build a more integrated global political and economic structure - one world, if you will. If that's the charge, I stand guilty, and I am proud of it."
Reference: Memoirs, David Rockefeller, éd. Random House; 1st Trade Ed edition, October 15, 2002 (ISBN 978-0679405887), p. 405

What do you think about it?


Anonymous 08/29/2017 (Tue) 17:18:31 Id: 2a38a1 [Preview] No. 54920 del
>>54908
It's not a big conspiracy at all
There are YOUTUBE CHANNELS that cover this topic


Anonymous 08/29/2017 (Tue) 18:12:17 Id: 947f37 [Preview] No. 54925 del
>>54913

The biggest conspiracies are always hidden in plain sight. This is a constant principle I have observed over the years.

So, in fact, the biggest conspiracies aren't actually conspiracies at all, because they're not secret, and part of the definition of "conspiracy" is secrecy.


Anonymous 08/29/2017 (Tue) 18:13:47 Id: 947f37 [Preview] No. 54926 del
>>54920
>There are YOUTUBE CHANNELS that cover this topic

No there aren't, Trumpnigger.


Anonymous 08/30/2017 (Wed) 23:44:45 Id: c86c03 [Preview] No. 54956 del
>>54926
Go back to your containment thread, you gook >>48390


Anonymous 08/31/2017 (Thu) 01:10:59 Id: 4fed04 [Preview] No. 54957 del
>>54956

Eat shit and die, Trumpnigger.


Anonymous 08/31/2017 (Thu) 02:36:34 Id: c86c03 [Preview] No. 54961 del
>>54957
Your conspiracy conspiracy is disinfo. :^) That's why there's a goddamn Trump containment thread so that you can shill your /intl/ tier Hibernian conspiracy bullshit. Yes, you're the anti-potatonigger spammer, go back to your shitty thezog website, shabbos goys are not limited to the Irish but claiming any symbiosis with them is 100% kikery You fucking gook.


Anonymous 08/31/2017 (Thu) 03:29:32 Id: 4ea6be [Preview] No. 54963 del
>>54961
Different subject entirely now. Explain what's wrong about thezog.
Calmly. I'm not attacking.


Anonymous 08/31/2017 (Thu) 03:30:11 Id: 4ea6be [Preview] No. 54964 del
>>54926
>>54957
And what the fuck does Trump have to do with this shit?


Anonymous 08/31/2017 (Thu) 05:19:02 Id: c86c03 [Preview] No. 54965 del
>>54963
Ctrl-F irish on the h ttps://thezog.info/ main webpage and you'll find some stuff in the comments.

What I'm saying is that if you honestly believe that Irish = Jews and so you can't trust the Irish because they're just as evil, well fuck you too. If you only specifically limit that to the American Elite that "coincidentally" are full of Irish people, the implications then is that the non elite Irish trailer trash hill billies are as dangerous as any stupid fucking Jew out there, and so promoting a sort of mutual symbiosis of the Jew controlling all Irish people at least in the US.

TheZOG says:
May 21, 2017 at 12:16 pm

Yes. Jews and Irish are the twin mafias that control America.

Whenever I get around to fully updating these lists, I’m going to explicitly label all the Irish individuals present on them so everyone can see just how over-represented Irish people are in the top echelons of American society. I also have a list of the Irish people in Donald Trump’s presidential administration which is almost finished.


Anonymous 08/31/2017 (Thu) 05:28:56 Id: c86c03 [Preview] No. 54966 del
>>54963
>>54965
Otherwise, it's not all that bad info. Naming people who controls whatever company or group or government is useful at face value regardless if they're Jews or not, but not necessarily all perceptible implications from it are "useful". Since Jews are "parasitic", therefore, everyone's a Jew. That's the kind of oversimplified thought terminating conclusions that annoys me because the question then is what the fuck are you going to do about it when everyone you don't like is a shill or a proxy shill of an ideology from a shill, etc., which such concepts are ultimately pure baseless propaganda, which the conspiracy conspiracy is a self fulfilling prophecy, a conspiracy in and of itself. In other words, just because you can observe a phenomenon doesn't mean your hypothesis are correct.


Anonymous 08/31/2017 (Thu) 16:05:31 Id: ab8aae [Preview] No. 54972 del
>>54966
You just discovered one of the major flaw of experimental science. Conducting an experience, even if it's successful, will not absolutely confirm an hypothesis.

The "It's all the jew" is actually, from my point of view, residues from an older propaganda aiming at forcing the people practicing judaism to immigrate in Israel, thinking that they belong to a lost race.
It's the same thing that saying "it's all Freemasons!". No, it's certainly not. The "blue" lodges, and others little lodges are certainly not in the conspiracy.
It's never "all of them!".

You're right to point out this. I think that people like this because it's simple, and they don't have to think and to get the actual necessary historical, philosophical etc.. culture to be able to make the distinctions. If you're a jew, then you're good enough to be killed. If I don't like you and you don't hate jews, then you're with the jews, then I can kill you.
It's the same propaganda used with the communists. And on the communists side, with the nazis.
In fact, the monstruous demonization of the nazis have been made to hide the monstruosity done by the soviets and the alliance; since they're monsters, bombarding and mass killing civilians is ok. Making all of them starve to death, the soviets raping everyone is ok etc...

Personaly, I more and more think that the "mass", the people, should not get in politics. If you don't have the require cultural level to be able to understand political ideas, then you should not get close to it.
I'm highly against any popularisation. We have to make ourself better and get on the same level of the talk being dispensed. It's not the opposite. The simplification is actually one of the best way to manipulate people, because since you hide the inner mechanism, the audience have to trust you blindly.
Democracy have been one of the biggest lie ever told. People governing themself, if each person of the population can't bring themself to the level of rulers, can't work. In fact, for people to govern themself, they all have to be governors, and have the appropriate skills. It's never gonna happen. It's physically impossible. We're all born different. Some people simply don't have the brain to have a PHD.

And that's, from my point of view, the source of all of this ignorance, all of these empty slogans screamed there and there "It's all the jews" "Liberty!" "Democracy!". It works because people don't have the intellectual level.


Anonymous 08/31/2017 (Thu) 16:43:00 Id: 4ea6be [Preview] No. 54974 del
>>54972
No one who says "it's all the jews" is also for liberty and democracy if they've read The Protocols of the Elders of Zion, which the jews say is plagiarized from Dialogue in Hell Between Machiavelli and Montesquieu. They're right. What they refuse to admit is that jews plagiarized it.


Anonymous 08/31/2017 (Thu) 16:46:16 Id: 4ea6be [Preview] No. 54975 del
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>>54965
>if you honestly believe that Irish = Jews and so you can't trust the Irish because they're just as evil, well fuck you too.
Actually, I don't believe any of that shit despite my particular race tending to be against the Irish. It's divide and conquer to me, since the Irish are obviously white. thezog.info has a lot of revealing who are jews in power behind everything of importance, but I have noticed they also point out Irish. I didn't think anything of it, just coincidence until you said what the site admin there obviously believes. Even if the Irish are over-represented in government and politics, GOOD. More anglo races should be.
>>54966
Naming the jews who control companies, groups or governments is the only useful thing to me. I honestly don't give a shit if they're any other white race. I don't even care about the ordinary jews who aren't in any positions of power. Social influence is a different story. They should have none. They should not control the press. If the government and banking (+all corporate) systems were over represented by Chinese, Japanese, Koreans, Africans or Hindu Indians, I would be against those people instead. It's the jews. Even when the zog.info's site admin is anti Irish, jews are way more over represented in all positions.

h ttps://thezog.wordpress.com/who-controls-big-media/
h ttps://thezog.wordpress.com/who-controls-hollywood/
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h ttps://thezog.wordpress.com/who-controls-radio/
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h ttps://thezog.wordpress.com/who-controls-professional-sports/
h ttps://thezog.wordpress.com/who-controls-the-anti-defamation-league/
h ttps://thezog.wordpress.com/who-controls-the-southern-poverty-law-center/
h ttps://thezog.wordpress.com/who-controls-the-american-civil-liberties-union/
h ttps://thezog.wordpress.com/who-is-behind-gun-control/
h ttps://thezog.wordpress.com/who-is-behind-the-climate-change-hoax/
h ttps://thezog.wordpress.com/who-controls-the-group-of-thirty/
h ttps://thezog.wordpress.com/who-controls-the-bilderberg-group/
h ttps://thezog.wordpress.com/who-controls-the-trilateral-commission/
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h ttps://thezog.wordpress.com/who-controls-the-council-on-foreign-relations-part-2/


Anonymous 08/31/2017 (Thu) 16:56:30 Id: ab8aae [Preview] No. 54977 del
>>54974

I have a complete research about the protocols, but it's in french.
The "jews", whatever that means, did not plagiarized anything; it's exactly Ratchkovski in 1901 who asked Mathieu Golovinski to write the protocols, 4 years after the first zionist congress, in the middle of the Dreyfus case, and in the middle of the anti-jews propaganda.
It's enter perfectly in the anti-jews propaganda made by the sionist to motivate the creation of the sionist state.


Anonymous 08/31/2017 (Thu) 17:40:27 Id: 4ea6be [Preview] No. 54981 del
>>54977
>research
By "authors" who rely on nothing but promoting hearsay, I'm sure. This is the exact same kind of shit I deal with when random anti-Hitler jews promote faggots like William Shirer who used jew sources, or Langler whom also used jew sources. When the jews cry something's false and forgery, either they forged it themselves or you believe it's true because they always lie. Jews lie as reflexively and unthinkingly as humans breathe.


Anonymous 08/31/2017 (Thu) 17:48:16 Id: ab8aae [Preview] No. 54982 del
>>54981
Give me the one who produced it, the one who command it, the context, and a date.
If you can't, then I don't have to trust you.
I'm ready to change my mind, just give me the proof.


Anonymous 08/31/2017 (Thu) 20:22:13 Id: 4ea6be [Preview] No. 54984 del
>>54982
Sorry, that's not how cognitive dissonance works. I tell you the facts, you dismiss them offhandedly. That's how stubborn kike supporters and imageboards work. Here is the preface explained in Marsden's translation:
The Protocols were issued at the First Zionist Congress held at Basle in 1897 under the presidency of the Father of Modern Zionism, the late Theodore Herzl. The author of this translation of the famous Protocols was himself a victim of the Revolution. On the day that Captain Cromie was murdered by Jews, the translator Victor Marsden was arrested and thrown into the Peter-Paul Prison, expecting every day to have his name called out for execution. This he escaped, and eventually he was allowed to return to England very much of a wreck in bodily health. However, he recovered under treatment and the devoted care of his wife and friends. One of the first things he undertook, as soon as he was able, was this translation of the Protocols. Mr. Marsden was eminently well qualified for the work. His intimate acquaintance with Russia, Russian life and the Russian language on the one hand, and his mastery of a terse literary English style on the other, placed him in a position of advantage which few others could claim. The consequence is that we have in his version an eminently readable work, and though the subject-matter is somewhatformless, Mr. Marsden's literary touch reveals the thread running through the twenty-four Protocols. It may be said with truth that this work was carried out at the cost of Mr. Marsden's own life's blood. He told the writer of this Preface that he could not stand more than an hour at a time of his work on it in the British Museum, as the diabolical spirit of the matter which he was obliged to turn into English made him positively ill. Mr. Marsden's connection with the Morning Post was not severed by his return to England, and he was well enough to accept the post of special correspondent of that journal in the suite of the Prince of Wales on his Empire tour. From this he returned with the Prince, apparently in much better health, but within a few days of his landing he was taken suddenly ill, and died after a very brief illness. May this work be his crowning monument! In it he has performed an immense service to the English-speaking world, and there can be little doubt that it will take its place in the first rank of the English versions of "The Protocols of the Meetings of the Learned Elders of Zion." Of the Protocols themselves little need be said in the way of introduction. The book in which they are embodied was published by Sergyei Nilus in Russia in 1905. A copy of this is in the British Museum bearing the date of its reception, August 10, 1906. All copies that were known to exist in Russia were destroyed in the Kerensky regime, and under his successors the possession of a copy by anyone in Soviet land was a crime sufficient to ensure the owner's of being shot on sight. The fact is in itself sufficient proof of the genuineness of the Protocols. The Jewish journals, of course, say that they are a forgery, leaving it to be understood that Professor Nilus, who embodied them in a work of his own, had concocted them for his own purposes. Mr. Henry Ford, in an interview published in the New York World, February 17th, 1921, put the case for Nilus tersely and convincingly thus: "The only statement I care to make about the Protocols is that they fit in with what is going on. They are sixteen years old, and they have fitted the world situation up to this time. They fit it now." Indeed they do! The word "Protocol" signifies a precis gummed on to the front of a document, a draft of a document, minutes of proceedings. (1)


Anonymous 08/31/2017 (Thu) 20:22:42 Id: 4ea6be [Preview] No. 54985 del
>>54984
(2)
In this instance, "Protocol" means minutes of the proceedings of the Meetings of the Learned Elders of Zion. These Protocols give the substance of addresses delivered to the innermost circle of the Rulers of Zion. They reveal the converted plan of action of the Jewish Nation developed through the ages and edited by the Elders themselves up to date. Parts and summaries of the plan have been published from time to time during the centuries as the secrets of the Elders have leaked out. The claim of the Jews that the Protocols are forgeries is in itself an admission of their genuineness, for they never attempt to answer the facts corresponding to the threats which the Protocols contain, and, indeed, the correspondence between prophecy and fulfillment is too glaring to be set aside or obscured. This the Jews well know and therefore evade.

But go ahead and cite wikipedia, even though WW2 "historians" born long after 1945 continue to tell lies in their books and their hearsay is cited as fact.


Anonymous 08/31/2017 (Thu) 22:52:21 Id: 88e217 [Preview] No. 54988 del
>>54975
Though I don't have any hard evidence, I think the guy that runs thezog.wordpress.com is the guy behind thezog.info because thezog.info actually has updated info, while thezog.wordpress.com has stuff from the Obama administration, or simply, someone merely mimicked the wordpress.com site. It's good for historical reference, but not good for current politics by itself, unless if you say, want to know which people are currently in the newer administration era that was from the older administration. Such tedious record keeping is important because the Jews also have their own records, their own "black book" and copy of various Jewish genealogies, well, at least the more well off Jewish families have them.


Anonymous 09/01/2017 (Fri) 00:12:22 Id: cbc7c5 [Preview] No. 54990 del
h ttps://w ww.sciencedaily.com/releases/2010/02/100224132655.htm

Liberals and Atheists Smarter? Average IQ Liberals = 106, Conservatives = 95; Atheists = 103, Religious = 97. Hmmm, explain this religious conservatives.


Anonymous 09/01/2017 (Fri) 00:26:07 Id: 4ea6be [Preview] No. 54991 del
>>54990
So why are you posting this in the Conspiracies thread?
Have something to confess?


Anonymous 09/01/2017 (Fri) 00:51:58 Id: 88e217 [Preview] No. 54992 del
h ttps://w ww.youtube.com/watch?v=XmxUjPdZdcw
h ttps://vid.me/Gerard_Morin

>>54990
IQ has no direct bearing on matters of wisdom, too bad you aren't wise enough to grasp that.


Anonymous 09/01/2017 (Fri) 20:05:48 Id: 994244 [Preview] No. 55001 del
>>54966

You're a conspiracy.


Anonymous 09/01/2017 (Fri) 20:19:25 Id: 994244 [Preview] No. 55003 del
>>54964

Trump has everything to do with everything.

Trump is the all-encompassing G-d Emperor.


Anonymous 09/01/2017 (Fri) 22:51:14 Id: cbc7c5 [Preview] No. 55008 del
>>54992
>Intelligence quotient is correlated with general success in life.
>but is not correlated with wisdom


Anonymous 09/02/2017 (Sat) 02:23:01 Id: c86c03 [Preview] No. 55011 del
>>55008
Material success is not directly correlated with wisdom.


Anonymous 09/02/2017 (Sat) 06:35:16 Id: e31dfe [Preview] No. 55017 del
>>54855
Some great points, Anon, and a very interesting read. Thank You. Can you clear something up for me? The English flag was a white dragon on a red background. When we were conquered by the Normans, their flag was two golden leopards on a red background. Richard I flag was three golden leopards on a red background, which was because he was Duke of Normandy.

So did we sail to Genoa with the three leopards, which we thenvhad to replace with the Genoan red cross when we entered the Mediterranean? How did the Genoan flag come to replace the three leopards completely?


Anonymous 09/02/2017 (Sat) 09:04:31 Id: ebe16f [Preview] No. 55024 del
>>55017
Your guess is as good as mines.

h ttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_coats_of_arms_of_the_House_of_Plantagenet#Descendants_of_Geoffrey_Plantagenet.2C_Count_of_Anjou
h ttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Republic_of_Venice
h ttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flag_of_Veneto
h ttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guelphs_and_Ghibellines


Anonymous 09/02/2017 (Sat) 09:08:16 Id: ebe16f [Preview] No. 55025 del
>>55017
>>55024
h ttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duchy_of_Brunswick-L%C3%BCneburg
h ttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brunswick_Lion
h ttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/House_of_Welf
Good luck with your quest.


Anonymous 09/02/2017 (Sat) 10:17:10 Id: 6757a4 [Preview] No. 55028 del
>>55017
>>55025
last Jewpedia link: h ttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry_the_Lion

I don't know much about the Roman Albion isles before the Normans came along besides how they had aqueducts and that Londonium was built where the City of London stands and that the Picts and Phoenicians had went there and brought in the Druidic cult that even the Romans found to be barbaric and incompatible with their own system and so had banned it and was banned until Roman Catholic Syncretism/Folk Catholicism brought it back.

Another obscure place with powerful under the radar oligarchs and bankers is the Republic of San Marino. h ttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_San_Marino

This might help a little bit h ttp://theunhivedmind.com/UHM/who-are-the-black-nobility/

Some elite Jews became a part of the European "Black" (as in evil) Nobility, they cooperated and merged with each other. Venice harbored Jews, was a Jewish state, and had a Jewish ghetto. Much of the Jews merged with the so called "Papal Nobility" as well. I don't really care about endless genealogies. There's Jews in India (Brahmins, Abrahm was a Brahmin h ttp://w ww.hermetics.org/Abraham2.html ) and China (Kaifeng Jews), etc., and they won't truly all come together in one location just as you will never see all the slaves (black as well as white slaves) that the Jews and Muslims had sold off return to where they've came from. This cruel world will always have evil wherever there is any amount of good left, while if the vermin by any slim chance succeed in slaying all those that don't submit to the Noahide laws, they'll fight even more among themselves and polarize from each other even if the people in said nightmare scenario world share a much more limited gene pool, all before they become even more genetically damaged due to a multiracial Judean Unitarian global policy, and permanently sterilizing mankind at the latest, 2000 years later, which by then, the world goes much backwards in technology. A world with only Jews is guaranteed self implosion of its own system genetically as well as economically, yet they won't really have anyone to blame but themselves, they will suffer from their own insufferable behavior and go out with a nuclear explosion because they hate their own more than they hate others. My realistically positive way of looking things is that the more evil a cult is, the less likely it would last long enough without changing into a weaker form of its former evil to the point where it no longer resembles anything like what it once was, while it then creates more room for good to exist. Society will find a way to live on, and even if we don't, they won't either as they become more cannibalistic and self destructive, and eventually the sun will grow and make the earth inhabitable while Titan slowly melts and potentially harbor new life.


Anonymous 09/02/2017 (Sat) 21:58:55 Id: c0e4ad [Preview] No. 55050 del
>>54855
You are mixing things that are not necessarily related. Vatican might have been the executor of the Templars, but who it was that tipped them off? Maybe they have learned too much, maybe they have turned against their former "allies"... Where did their gold go?

Templars were essentially pirates at one point (hence why the skull and crossbones symbol), great enemies of the British crown and their Jewish puppeteers.

Are you trying to say that it was "Venetians" behind the "Jews"? Can you elaborate more on this? This sounds awfully similar to the "Enochian" conspiracy theory, which is another disinfo attempt to portray current ruling kikes as not real Jews, but an ancient dark nobility from a region that is part of today's Italy. A variation of the Khazar theory. Again, what if Enochians were the good guys all along and that all the rumors about them having blood orgies were ancient Alex Jones tier propaganda made up by the kikes who were their enemies?

It's essentially the same propaganda that they used against Hitler and his allies. And the same propaganda that they used in the (((Bible))) for the enemies of their satanic god, Lucifer being a prime example. It's almost as if there is a pattern of some sort ...


Anonymous 09/02/2017 (Sat) 22:13:37 Id: c0e4ad [Preview] No. 55052 del
>>54859
>Adam Weishaupt went to a Jesuit college
And later did everything in power to fight those very same Jesuits.

>the banking system of monetarism practiced in the temple of apollo
I guess the one practiced by royal treasurers or Vatican is preferable to you? Oh wait, even Hitler had a banking system, maybe he was evil too according to your logic?

>and the intel gathering spy network with any front, whether religious, political, economic, academic, militaristic, doesn't matter.
Of course, people taking their destiny in their hands are literally another shoah.


Anonymous 09/02/2017 (Sat) 22:35:01 Id: c0e4ad [Preview] No. 55054 del
>>55028
>Some elite Jews became a part of the European "Black" (as in evil) Nobility
You have surely noticed many similarities between Talmudic Judaism and Hereditary Monarchism. That makes them natural allies. Maybe they have both converged into a certain archetype, maybe they are both ruled by a certain malevolent super-intelligence. As above, so below as they say...


Anonymous 09/02/2017 (Sat) 23:51:15 Id: 6757a4 [Preview] No. 55061 del
>>55050
>You are mixing things that are not necessarily related.
That's just you thinking that it is.
>Vatican might have been the executor of the Templars,
>might have
It's a historical fact, no speculation whatsoever.
>but who it was that tipped them off?
About what?
>Maybe they had learned too much,
They've learned that Muslims were not only bound to protect Christians but also that the Vatican created the Muslim faith, that they respect Mary and have adopted various Catholic concepts, but the Templars worshiped "Mahomet"/"Baphomet" through a misunderstanding of what they were taught through the Druze and Sufis.
>maybe they have turned against their former "allies"
All four crusades was an economic crusade for the Venetians to gain wealth, none of the wars that the Templars fought actually helped keep out the Turks.
>Where did their gold go?
To the Knights of Malta or was transferred out to the Venetian bankers. The Pope and various kings were broke due to the Venetians.
>Templars were essentially pirates at one point (hence why the skull and crossbones symbol), great enemies of the British crown and their Jewish puppeteers.
You mean privateers, the Templars weren't technically ever pirates, a religious militia can't be a "pirate". The skull and crossbones was a religious symbol of Golgotha/calvary hill way before there ever was a black flag with the skull and crossbones.
>Are you trying to say that it was "Venetians" behind the "Jews"?
The Venetians ARE the Jews you idiot. They are Talmudists, they called themselves "The Chosen Ones". Venetians are merely a merger of some Roman Aristocrats that fled to the armpit swamp of Italy after the destruction of Roma as well as Jewish state (but not the first post diaspora Jewish state) that was formed and became crypto Jews before they've been "converted". Such history are occulted from many. (cont.)


Anonymous 09/02/2017 (Sat) 23:51:32 Id: 6757a4 [Preview] No. 55062 del
>>55050
>"Enochian"
Enochian magic was only formed by Sir John Dee, and most so called Enochian magic users today don't know the basis of what the fuck Sir John Dee get his crap from (hint: from a Rabbi).
>"Enochian" conspiracy
There's like three of them, which one are you even referring to? There's those that believe in the Book of Enoch, there's those that believe in anyone that claims to use angel magic, and then there's the historical Enochian magic system that 007 created.
>ruling kikes are not real Jews,
By what definition is a Jew a Jew? Identity politics abuses the whole no true scotsman fallacy as well as its inverse: the no false scotsman fallacy. Just as you can't prove to me that you are who you say you are even if you took an airplane ticket to meet me in real life, I can't tell if you're an agent that is merely pretending to be you, neither can I tell if you're actually a super advanced robot making a computer generated response behind the screen.
>an ancient dark nobility from a region that is part of today's Italy
>dark nobility
There's people that literally believe that there's a noble house that were a bunch of niggers and that they called themselves "Moors" and that white people that has Moor as their last names are a fraction of a nigger. That's really Afrocentrist revisionism. Just because black Berbers were Muslim pirates that tried to take over Aragon and did some other shit even against Britain and the US, doesn't mean that they wuz kangz of Europa. The Jews as well as the Venetians participated with the Islamic slave trade that still goes on today, although in the US, that's done through Child Protection Services.
>what if Enochians were the good guys all along and that all the rumors about them having blood orgies were ancient Alex Jones tier propaganda made up by the kikes who were their enemies?
So you be saying that niggers were the Templars (controlled by Venetian crypto Jews) that the blood orgies that the niggers did were doing were fake? I don't really know by any means believe that the original Templars did any ritualistic shit, but the later 200 years they've picked up Eastern mystic crap, dabbled in the Kabbalah as well as learning about the Quran and Greek texts that the Muslims didn't destroy, and since Jews do ritualistic blood sacrificing shit, it's a tiny leap of faith to assume that the later Templars had done that although more realistically speaking, they would had opened up bodies to study anatomy which was a taboo.


Anonymous 09/03/2017 (Sun) 00:16:25 Id: 6757a4 [Preview] No. 55063 del
>>55052
>And later did everything in power to fight those very same Jesuits.
The definition of a Jesuit is a very clever person. Just as conservative Jews and liberal Jews hate each other, so do factions of Jewry.
>I guess the one practiced by royal treasurers or Vatican is preferable to you?
You don't know much about the temple of Apollo and how the Dionysian cult worked hand in hand and were based off of a Babylonian cult brought into Greece through Orpheus. The Dionysian oracles are the oracles of Delphi that functioned like a intelligence agency with a religious cover. Dionysus and Apollo are two natures of the same thing. From Jewpedia: "Greek mythology, Apollo and Dionysus are both sons of Zeus. Apollo is the god of rational thinking and order, appealing to prudence and purity. On the other hand, Dionysus is the god of the irrationality and chaos, appealing to emotions and instincts.

The Greeks did not consider the two gods to be opposites or rivals, although often the two deities were entwined by nature."

Monetarism is fractional reserve banking as well as usury.

The Romans adopted that same model to their own economic destruction and the fall of Rome into two. The Babylonian Delphic oracles had given "prophecies" to the leaders of neighboring cities in exchange for a gift. They can be bribed to give out a better "prophecy". They also gather intel through this method from other nations that seek guidance of what to do. It's really no different than a confessional inside a church where you donate money to. Delphi had its own "bread and circuses" model, they had their own "Olympics" as well as a theater, It was a hub for artists as well as politicians and athletes.

By the way, a treasury is not a bank, there's a difference although one helps the other.

>Of course, people taking their destiny in their hands are literally another shoah.
Not sure what you mean by this at all because the context is lost, but if you're implying that there can't be any individual destiny or free will without being another shoah, well I completely disagree with that.


Anonymous 09/03/2017 (Sun) 00:19:13 Id: 6757a4 [Preview] No. 55064 del
>>55054
Hereditary Monarchism and Talmudic Judaism are both Tribalism. You can only beat Tribalism by either destroying all concepts of Tribalism, and if you use Tribalism against Tribalism, it only leads to actual genocide which the Jews are too spread out for that to ever happen.


Anonymous 09/03/2017 (Sun) 00:28:03 Id: 6757a4 [Preview] No. 55065 del
>>55063
Forgot to mention that the Delphic oracles had given a huge chunk of their sacred black rock meteorite to the Roman Empire as an expression of their eternal favor and blessing.

Here's a older footage of Webster Tarpley explaining some stuff I've already mentioned here. h ttps://w ww.youtube.com/watch?v=hzyq4BXTkhQ

Nowadays, Webster Tarpley is controlled opposition, but his older info is 98% right. h ttps://archive.org/details/pdfy--vMPBwiHw_IDIeob

The remaining 2% that he doesn't know is the red pill and a lack of understanding of what the hell the Pythagoreans actually believed in which Humanists had failed to understand.


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>>55064
Simple solutions are the best. One, all jews must see the benefit of moving to Israel. Two, there needs to be a leader they trust implicitly to tear down those racist borders #openbordersforisrael


Anonymous 09/03/2017 (Sun) 01:07:05 Id: 6757a4 [Preview] No. 55070 del
>>55067
It's too simplistic for racist Jews to be for that. Yes, there's racist Jews that hate other Jews. There's tension between Sephardi Jews and Ashkenazi Jews because the Ashkenazi Jews had tried to kill the Sephardi Jews, so I don't expect them to suddenly actually get along with Ethiopian Jews. Abolishment of International Jewry from ALL countries are a necessity, but then of course, there will inevitably be crypto Jews and stupid shits converting to Judaism that want legal status outside of Samaria. Also, there's Jews that refuse to go to one specific location until they are convinced that the Messiah is back which their Messiah will really, never come back and some of them knows it's a lie. There needs to be a greater incentive that overrides their racial hatred against other Jews of other races, as well as their religious differences against other Jews and it's really not going to realistically happen.


Anonymous 09/03/2017 (Sun) 01:19:15 Id: 4ea6be [Preview] No. 55072 del
>>55070
You and I both know that muh Moschiach stuff is bullshit, but the kikes don't (aside from the ones who believe he already came). It doesn't matter that an actual messiah will never arrive. What matters is they fall for him being their messiah. From what I remember of a few descriptions, he will have great influence but will only be a man.

If anyone is into this religious shit and has studied the enemy more, let me know exactly what their Talmud and Torah say about their messiah. I'd like to know when someone comes to power who fits their shitty prophecies.


Anonymous 09/03/2017 (Sun) 01:32:22 Id: 6757a4 [Preview] No. 55073 del
>>55072
Until a Jewish "Hitler" comes out of nowhere to reclaim all persecuted Jews from all of the world and shove them back into Samaria and seeks to get rid of the international goyim among their midst, the unrealistic "greater incentive" I've previously mentioned is not a Tribal one but a purely evil incentive of 100% power over all the nations in having the State of Israel a capital state and having all nations becoming second class subjects (or slaves) to the Jews.


Anonymous 09/03/2017 (Sun) 03:45:51 Id: 4ea6be [Preview] No. 55079 del
>>55073
>a jewish "Hitler"
So, the complete opposite of Hitler then. I have a feeling this will happen when they reach the height of their power. They'll let their guard down. Eventually the kikes will feel so powerful they'll think they're safe. Or at least a man can dream.


Anonymous 09/03/2017 (Sun) 10:56:00 Id: c0e4ad [Preview] No. 55092 del
>>55061
>It's a historical fact, no speculation whatsoever.
It's a figure of speech actually
>About what?
You know, certain shadowy group that was rather bothered by them. The one which aided Vatican in their execution.
>Templars worshiped "Mahomet"/"Baphomet"
Which is a symbol of wisdom, male and female principles combined into one. They added "scary" parts in order to troll idiots, also animal bits have certain symbolism too.
>All four crusades was an economic crusade for the Venetians to gain wealth
The involvement of Templars in the crusades was marginal at best. They had other goals.
>To the Knights of Malta or was transferred out to the Venetian bankers.
Where then? Is it not strange that they escaped to Scotland, and then the US, fighting the British (who were "Venetian" puppets) all along the way?
>The Venetians ARE the Jews you idiot.
>By what definition is a Jew a Jew?
I think this might be the central question that is not receiving enough attention on sites like these.
>There's people that literally believe that there's a noble house that were a bunch of niggers and that they called themselves "Moors"
I meant dark as in "evil" , practicing dark arts etc.
>but the later 200 years they've picked up Eastern mystic crap
Maybe that's why they became an issue for certain power players? Christianity was a backbone on which most political establishments in Europe were basing their power, divine rule and all that.
>Jews do ritualistic blood sacrificing shit
So do Christians (albeit in symbolic manner)


Anonymous 09/03/2017 (Sun) 11:18:36 Id: c0e4ad [Preview] No. 55093 del
>>55063
>The definition of a Jesuit is a very clever person.
Actually it's being a member of a Society of Jesus.
>Just as conservative Jews and liberal Jews hate each other
Just as some rabbinical Jews hated Jeshohua ben Joseph, Jewish battle priest and insurgent against the Roman Empire.
>You don't know much about the temple of Apollo and how the Dionysian cult worked hand in hand
That's strange considering that those two deities were pretty much completely opposed. But they tried to reconcile the two even back then, I guess it's in human nature and as old as civilization itself. But then you were not a true follower of any, as far as principles are concerned.
>By the way, a treasury is not a bank, there's a difference although one helps the other.
Treasury can have the same functions as the bank, and it often did have.
>but if you're implying that there can't be any individual destiny or free will without being another shoah, well I completely disagree with that.
Can you offer any other solution? To be a free man as a non-Jew is not compatible with Jewish identity

>Babylonian cult brought into Greece through Orpheus

Babylon had many different cults, and not all of them are necessarily bad. Babylon was a center of civilization like Egypt, like Rome, like many other places later. But it seems that certain cult got persecuted by the powers that be throughout all these eras, and that continues to happen to this day as well. Maybe that cult possessed certain knowledge that threatened the tyrannical slavers and their god?


Anonymous 09/03/2017 (Sun) 11:34:21 Id: c0e4ad [Preview] No. 55094 del
>>55064
They are extreme form of Tribalism. Destroying all concepts of Tribalism leads us where? Neither extreme is good. You have inbred absolutist royals/Jews on one side of the spectrum, and formless brown mass of rootless drones on another. Hence why the dialectical approach would give us the nation as the best way to go. Actual nation-state, not civic nationalist crap. It could be extended to race in modern settings where most nations are almost destroyed by the globalist plague.

And if every country was a nation-state, it would be easy to root out Jews and send them to Israel or some other designated spot. Because they would have nowhere to run to anymore

That's why they are forcing the two extremes (Monarchy/Capitalism and Communism are two sides of the same shekel) in order to ensure control.


Anonymous 09/03/2017 (Sun) 11:41:28 Id: c0e4ad [Preview] No. 55095 del
>>55079
Their messiah is a literal Satan. Ironically, Christians and Muslims worship the same deity. And there are many competitors trying to become it's physical vessel, as well as a group trying to make it "incarnate" as a conscious AI that would be omnipotent, and omniscient in this world.


Anonymous 09/03/2017 (Sun) 16:40:30 Id: cbc7c5 [Preview] No. 55107 del
h ttps://w ww.270towin.com/maps/2016-actual-electoral-map
Skeptics are blue, morons are red. Never move to a red state or you will regret it.


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>>55107
>Implying all those who voted for Shillary knew or cared about Trump's zionist connections
>the vast majority weren't leftist antifa feminist dumbasses following the jewish ploys
>voting at all
>posting in this thread instead of Trump containment


Anonymous 09/03/2017 (Sun) 19:50:47 Id: 8c9bff [Preview] No. 55118 del
>>54746
>>54864
>>54990
>>55008
>>55107

You know we have ids right?


Anonymous 09/03/2017 (Sun) 23:17:41 Id: 88e217 [Preview] No. 55126 del
>>55092
>It's a figure of speech actually
There's no way of telling about certain tenses that gets lost behind words, even in real life, people can fake tonal inclinations and facial expressions through general neuro linguistic programming techniques.
>You know, certain shadowy group that was rather bothered by them. The one which aided Vatican in their execution
There were multiple kings that was broke due to the Lombards, and the Vatican was also poor. They've conspired to make up any claim real or not to take their money to pay off their debts. Any mainstream TV documentary is upfront about their downfall, but they claim to not know where the money had gone to be a mystery. The Knights of Malta (The Sovereign Military Order of Malta) more or less too over the roles of the Templars in protecting the Vatican and such though they were more on the defensive side. There's various Catholic orders and are against each other. Franciscans and Dominicans hated the Jesuits and were the reasons why some of the Jesuits sought refuge in the British East India Company. There's various SMOM knights in Great Britain and westward through a supposedly "Protestant" variant when there never was a "Protestant" order because there's nothing of a sort in the bible, Christian orders are all a ruse. Protestants didn't exist until late 1400's and early 1500's so you can't blame Jews behind the Protestants for what the Templars had done.
>Which is a symbol of wisdom, male and female principles combined into one.
Wrong. Mahomet is Muhammad except that they've mistakenly deified him through Zoroastrian and Kabbalistic and Sufi (mystic Muslims) concepts. It wasn't the only deity that they worshiped. They also worshiped the (((Gnostic))) Abraxas. The (((Catholic Church))) worshiped Mithras and coincidentally, Abraxas and Mithras both mean 365 in Greek Isopsephy h ttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isopsephy ΑBPAΞAΣ MEIOPAE but that's a coincidence. It's through the Templars and the Jews that religious syncretism became mainstream in Europe.
>The involvement of Templars in the crusades was marginal at best.
That doesn't mean that they didn't personally went to deliver the wealth that the Vatican owed to the Venetians, which they did.
>Where then?
You mean when more than where. Here's a timeline for some reference: h ttps://w ww.youtube.com/watch?v=xF0TjPkyB3s At when did where did the money go? I'd say that the Templars that the Vatican had captured went to fund their debt to the Venetian bankers while some of that wealth was held by the Knights of Malta. Most of the Venetians more or less moved indefinitely in the City of London and called the British isles its "New Venice" some time in the 1700's although they were in Amsterdam and in other places before. They've transplanted into a new host, escaping the rotting empires and markets that they've created or cooperated with in the Mediterranean. Remember, these are all factions of Jews in ideologies or by blood or both, it doesn't too much matter.
>I meant dark as in "evil" , practicing dark arts etc.
Evil is relative to whatever cult determines what is evil or not dogmatically, can't ever explain evil ontologically, only epistemologically through assumptions formed from dogmatic doctrines that are held to be true regardless of if it is actually true or not.
>Maybe that's why they became an issue for certain power players?
No, it's their banking system that they've mimicked from the Venetians, anything else was secondary, even if they've learned geometry (from Muslims that stolen Greek and Roman texts) and such that of which some of them fled to Switzerland and had created various mechanical creations, such information was secondary which the Vatican holds some of that knowledge as well as some other stuff from the library of Alexandria. The primary reason is economic, it always was. (cont.)


Anonymous 09/03/2017 (Sun) 23:46:56 Id: 88e217 [Preview] No. 55127 del
>>55092
>So do Christians (albeit in symbolic manner)
Symbolically, the passover represents the death to the self, the existential self, as well as the life to the true self, the spiritual self. It's the reconciliation of the illusion of existential dualism through the negation of the physical in embracing the metaphysical reality dictated by a primary unmanifest force which the spiritual, true self in any living conscious being is the extension of the primary unmanifest force while everything else is temporal and dies while what isn't temporal merges with itself in its pure essence. Christianity, even original Judaism wasn't the first to come up with such a concept, but that's a whole different thing I won't get into here.

>>55093
>Actually it's being a member of a Society of Jesus.
Jesuitical
or Jesuitic
[jezh-oo-it-i-kuh l or jezh-oo-it-ik; jez-oo-, jez-yoo-]

adjective

1. of or relating to Jesuits or Jesuitism.
2. (often lowercase) practicing casuistry or equivocation; using subtle or oversubtle reasoning; crafty; sly; intriguing.

Historical Examples

And thus, my friend, did I find myself allied to the Jesuitical party.
Memoirs of the Comtesse du Barry Etienne Leon Lamothe-Langon

And have you forgotten that sleepwalking affair—all Jesuitical!
The Crusade of the Excelsior Bret Harte

“Mysterious, if not Jesuitical,” murmured Beverley; but the clergyman affected not to hear.
Mr. Claghorn’s Daughter Hilary Trent

“That depends on circumstances,” returned the Rabbi in Jesuitical wise.
One Snowy Night Emily Sarah Holt

There is possibly a Jesuitical mental reservation contained in the words "mechanical means."
Popular scientific lectures Ernst Mach

The system of casuistry was one not solely of Jesuitical invention.
Pascal John Tulloch

These Jesuitical associations are hotbeds of treason and intrigue!
Mlle. Fouchette Charles Theodore Murray

He told me of your hellish machinations; your Jesuitical plots; your schemes.
Rookwood William Harrison Ainsworth

Charles was too angry and too honourable to listen to the Jesuitical insinuation, and war was the word.
Blackwood’s Edinburgh Magazine, Volume 63, No. 391, May, 1848 Various

In short, Jesuit = Jew, Jesuitical = Jewry, Jesuit = Jesuitical Jesuits = Jewing Jews = Jews = Jesuits

>Just as some rabbinical Jews hated Jeshohua ben Joseph,
Denying the deity of Jesus Christ is what all kikes do. People that hate Jews shouldn't deny Christ's deity to make the Jews uncomfortable and remind them of their blood curse and various "prophecies" that deny them of their ethnic identity of a Jew as well as a religious identity of a Jew. Jews are nothing, they see themselves as nothing. Nobody is a Jew if they hold onto their bullshit laws and there's no ethnic Jew because Christianity deprecated the old concept of the religious Jew as an identification fallacy of claiming a genetic Jew is the only type of Jew while if they do Jewish things, they automatically are no longer Jews anyways because they don't understand that Jews don't even exist anymore, it's only a mind virus. Any so called Christian that claims to be a Jew is not a Jew and is not a Christian. However, there's (((Christians))) that tries to not only paganize Christianity but also misinterpret it to mean something else.

>That's strange considering that those two deities were pretty much completely opposed. But they tried to reconcile the two even back then, I guess it's in human nature and as old as civilization itself. But then you were not a true follower of any, as far as principles are concerned.
There's a lot about pagan symbolism you refuse to acknowledge. Hermaphrodite is Hermes and Aphrodite, it's its own concept of union between them, the union is real as well as the ideas of Hermaprodite represents.

>Treasury can have the same functions as the bank, and it often did have.
A treasury stores "treasure". A bank stored the economic wealth of the people. A bank can exist without a treasury and vice versa. (cont.)


Anonymous 09/03/2017 (Sun) 23:55:56 Id: 88e217 [Preview] No. 55128 del
>>55093
>Can you offer any other solution? To be a free man as a non-Jew is not compatible with Jewish identity
Jewish identity is an illusion, a lie. There's also no "as a", you either "is"/"are" or "is not"/"are not". "As a" is identity politics, switching masks of personas whenever you like to "as an" excuse of what you don't actually have to begin with. Get rid of all these meaningless identifiers of temporal personas and what do you got left?

>Babylon had many different cults, and not all of them are necessarily bad. Babylon was a center of civilization like Egypt, like Rome, like many other places later. But it seems that certain cult got persecuted by the powers that be throughout all these eras, and that continues to happen to this day as well. Maybe that cult possessed certain knowledge that threatened the tyrannical slavers and their god?
h ttp://w ww.conspiracyschool.com/chaldean-magi

>>55094
"Destroying" all concepts of extreme Tribalism leads to better appreciation of soft Tribalism and respect between tribes because everyone seeks to respect each other's differences. Too bad nobody can destroy extreme Tribalism itself, since anyone that's against extreme Tribalism are most likely for extreme Tribalism. A restoration of soft Tribalism at a global scale requires a global government to make that happen, but can you trust said global government?

>>55095
Depending on what kind of Jew you ask, they will refuse to do anything to do with Satan, while Satan is really groupthink for enemy, anyone's that's an adversary is ha Shatan. Christians and Muslims don't worship the same deity, only the Satanists among them do which all forms of Satanism is Materialism.


Anonymous 09/04/2017 (Mon) 14:17:29 Id: c0e4ad [Preview] No. 55156 del
>>55126
>through general neuro linguistic programming techniques.
You can also do that without wasting money on such fads
>Christian orders are all a ruse
But basically you do acknowledge that they had different goals and affiliations. Maybe some of them were motivated by something other than just mere greed and political power? Even if Templars were mostly interested in banking at certain point, they could have had other goals in mind. In other words, I believe that for them money (gold) was just a means to achieve a certain goal, not a goal into itself. There are so many subtle overtones in these scenarios. And regarding Jews, well, not all of them have accepted the laws of Moses.
>Mahomet is Muhammad except that they've mistakenly deified him through Zoroastrian and Kabbalistic and Sufi (mystic Muslims) concepts.
So basically it's not Muhammad. Almost none of descriptions match, except somewhat similar name.
>They also worshiped the (((Gnostic))) Abraxas.
Gnosticism is pretty much the exact opposite of Judaism, although some myths and ideas overlap, which is natural as they have existed in the same geographical region for quite a while
>The (((Catholic Church))) worshiped Mithras and coincidentally
Yes, that's why they cracked down on Mithraist cults with such ferocity. You are mixing up completely opposed factions to be one and the same again. Christianity in general stole a lot of concepts from certain older mystery religions, but that "intellectual theft" started with it's very founder, Rabbi Jeshohua ben Joseph.
>Abraxas and Mithras both mean 365 in Greek Isopsephy
They both represent complete beings so it's not surprising. And of course, they are linked to each other.
>It's through the Templars and the Jews that religious syncretism became mainstream in Europe.
For the good and the bad, but it was a historical inevitability. Those two groups did it for completely opposite purposes though.
>That doesn't mean that they didn't personally went to deliver the wealth that the Vatican owed to the Venetians, which they did.
That was the service which they provided. They were knights.


Anonymous 09/04/2017 (Mon) 14:32:11 Id: c0e4ad [Preview] No. 55158 del
>>55126
>Most of the Venetians more or less moved indefinitely in the City of London and called the British isles its "New Venice" some time in the 1700's although they were in Amsterdam and in other places before. They've transplanted into a new host, escaping the rotting empires and markets that they've created or cooperated with in the Mediterranean. Remember, these are all factions of Jews in ideologies or by blood or both, it doesn't too much matter.
This seems most plausible actually. But I'm not so certain about Templars owing allegiance to them, as in true allegiance. You know how they say, keep your friends close, but your enemies closer...
>Evil is relative to whatever cult determines what is evil or not dogmatically
I meant a definition of it that most "dogmas" can agree on, moral relativism is absolute ignorance but I don't plan to argue about it in this thread.
>No, it's their banking system that they've mimicked from the Venetians
Why would they do that if they were serving the Venetians?
>Anything else was secondary
At a certain point maybe, and to some of them maybe. But not in general.
>Symbolically, the passover represents the death to the self, the existential self, as well as the life to the true self, the spiritual self. It's the reconciliation of the illusion of existential dualism through the negation of the physical in embracing the metaphysical reality
Which is actually a Mithraist ritual that they stole and rendered meaningless by externalizing it and dumbing it down for the masses, attaching a lot of theological clutter to it. Christians still symbolically drink the blood of Jesus.


Anonymous 09/04/2017 (Mon) 14:52:28 Id: c0e4ad [Preview] No. 55159 del
>>55127
>In short, Jesuit = Jew
Agreed
>Denying the deity of Jesus Christ is what all kikes do.
For completely different reasons. Maybe he was one of them so they are up to his schemes? Maybe Jesus was the Soros of his times and rabbinical Jews were the hardcore Zionists?
>Hermaphrodite is Hermes and Aphrodite, it's its own concept of union between them, the union is real as well as the ideas of Hermaprodite represents.
Which is the union of certain male and female principles that incorporates both while not negating any. Hermaprodite is wrongly used (perhaps intentionally) for describing two genders existing simultaneously as one, that's not a union, that's negation, cancellation. For alchemical marriage, a tension (two) needs to exists, a differentiation. Which is why certain practitioners of the dark arts today are doing everything possible to merge everything in order to destroy it's divine properties.
>A bank can exist without a treasury and vice versa.
That's because they are both completely capable of performing the same banking activities
>Get rid of all these meaningless identifiers of temporal personas and what do you got left?
Equality
>"Destroying" all concepts of extreme Tribalism leads to better appreciation of soft Tribalism and respect between tribes because everyone seeks to respect each other's differences. Too bad nobody can destroy extreme Tribalism itself, since anyone that's against extreme Tribalism are most likely for extreme Tribalism. A restoration of soft Tribalism at a global scale requires a global government to make that happen, but can you trust said global government?
Agreed. But soft tribalism would require reformation of the tribes. And global government can be made of representatives of each tribe, instead of only one that we have right now.
>while Satan is really groupthink for enemy
A Messiah of the few is the Satan of the many


Anonymous 09/04/2017 (Mon) 15:23:29 Id: 88e217 [Preview] No. 55160 del
>>55156
>You can also do that without wasting money on such fads
I don't do any of that fancy bullshit, I truly got nothing to hide, anything I get persecuted for is for the source of all good.
>But basically you do acknowledge that they had different goals and affiliations.
That has nothing to do with my point that there's no such thing as a Christian order, original Christianity were 100% pacifists.
>So basically it's not Muhammad.
You're oversimplifying it, they've respected Islam as an authentic religion that has no quarrel with Catholicism. h ttp://w ww.ptwf.org/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=209%3Amuslims-are-commanded-by-muhammad-to-protect-christians-and-their-churches-until-the-end-of-days&catid=86&Itemid=526

That however, isn't to say that Islam is no different than a imperial cult similar to the one held by Genghis Khan and that Muslims have a right to deceive anyone to convert others one way or another.
>Gnosticism is pretty much the exact opposite of Judaism
Wrong again m8. There's no such thing as "pre-Christian" Gnosticism. They're either Jewish sects that tried to reconcile Hellenic rationalism with Christianity, or were Jewish sects that tried to reconcile Christianity with the Old Testament laws of which if you were honest and have a brain to actually learn anything, an authentic form of Christianity is 100% anti Judaism, whether it be Pharisaic or Sadducaic or whatever other Jewish sects that was formed Anno Domini. Stoics, Pythagoreans, Greek Atomists, Greek Paganism, they're all NOT (((Gnosticism))). Essenes, Ebionites, Valetinianism, Manichaeism, Simonians, Sethianism etc., are all stupid syncretists.
>Yes, that's why they cracked down on Mithraist cults with such ferocity.
Wrong yet again. Constatine the Great wanted to merge Christianity with Mithraism based on what similar concepts that they have, of which the wine thing is a sheer coincidence of which Moses' Passover predates Zoroastrianism by at least 600~800 years. Catholicism is not original Christianity.
>And of course, they are linked to each other.
But you don't seem to get why.
>For the good and the bad, but it was a historical inevitability. Those two groups did it for completely opposite purposes though.
"Opposite" is a lie, they both seek power, they both dabbled in demonic conjuring to gain fortunes, they're both Materialists.
>Which is actually a Mithraist ritual that they stole and rendered meaningless by externalizing it and dumbing it down for the masses, attaching a lot of theological clutter to it.
Mithraism is Zoroastrianism + Astrology (of which Zoroastrians denounced Astrology but the Chaldeans corrupted themselves with such idolatry) Dionysian is Bacchus is Bel is Marduk. Mithraism gets their inspiration from the (((Magussaeans))) that were among them because the Persians conquered the Israelites. Zoroastrianism came about right when the biblical Daniel was made chief of the wise men of Babylon. Although the division of the twelve constellations came much later when the night sky was at first divided into four, the Chaldeans adopted a primitive form of a Zodiac from the Judeans from the likes of Daniel or Ezekiel, doesn't really matter. The point is that the Chaldeans were more intertwined with Judaism than you are willing to recognize nor even admit to for now.


Anonymous 09/04/2017 (Mon) 15:31:23 Id: 4b3e10 [Preview] No. 55161 del
>>55158
What's your read on the Templars? As far as I can tell, they were good goyim who went to Jerusalem and at some point were exposed to the ancient evidence showing that all of the Abrahamic religions are degenerated copies of the Old Way (Egyptian, Sumerian, Aryan, and other European religions which are successors to the pre-Younger Dryas civilization). This would be the point where they take up the symbolist tradition which is seen as alchemic knowledge encoded in their later works. From that time onward, the grail of the templars is the truth about the falsehood of Christianity itself, which is why they hid their message and came under attack by the Vatican (whose highest levels of authority already knew the truth, but have kept it hidden so that they can participate in the destruction and enslavement of Europe). After being dissolved, the Templars became the Freemasons, with their syncretic traditions leading back to the truth they found in Jerusalem. However, it seems after that point the Freemasons were simply infiltrated and re-aligned to the Semitic hegemony.


Anonymous 09/04/2017 (Mon) 15:44:45 Id: 88e217 [Preview] No. 55162 del
>>55158
>This seems most plausible actually. But I'm not so certain about Templars owing allegiance to them, as in true allegiance. You know how they say, keep your friends close, but your enemies closer.
The Vatican and Philip IV of France abandoned the Templars to pay off their debt owed to the Venetians. Here's something from Jewpedia: ' In 1306, Philip the Fair expelled the Jews from France and, in 1307, Friday 13th, he annihilated the order of the Knights Templar. Philip was in debt to both groups and saw them as a "state within the state". '

The Templars (as well as its later incarnation as the Jesuit order) doesn't pay taxes, doesn't pay this or that. When Pope Benedict XI got them killed, within a year, he died. Similar assassination attempts of Popes occurred under the Jesuit order with the "Cup of Borja", using exotic Asian poisons which there's no antidote available in the western world.
>I meant a definition of it that most "dogmas" can agree on, moral relativism is absolute ignorance but I don't plan to argue about it in this thread.
Just because a bunch of people agree to something doesn't make it right. A proper understanding of metaphysical ontology as well as ontotheology is required to grasp it.
>Why would they do that if they were serving the Venetians?
Why would Jews be Jewing?
>>55159
>That's because they are both completely capable of performing the same banking activities
You can't sell a national treasure, you can't destroy a physical representation of the constitution of a nation, they're protected by the Treasury. There's immaterial treasures that aren't intrinsic or debt papers of which banks have no power over. Without a Treasury, there can be no banks.
>Equality
I assume you don't believe in equality.
>A Messiah of the few is the Satan of the many
There's no Messiah and there's no Satan, just, people.


Anonymous 09/04/2017 (Mon) 16:13:35 Id: 88e217 [Preview] No. 55163 del
>>55161
The Grail myth is not biblical and so is not original Christianity, but from other myths (mostly of druidic origins) that is retroactively reapplied into syncretic Christianity which is not radical (root, core, true, authentic) Christianity. The Templars merely found an more ancient form of the basis behind the same druidic myth of which has nothing to do with Christianity. The whole holy blood theory is a newer theory that first assumes that Jesus Christ was real and that he got some pussy. If I was an anti-Christian (BTW, I'm not an anti-theist, atheist, agnostic nor a creationist, just saying an hypothetical statement), if I even assumed that there was a historical Jesus, then I've unwillingly claimed that the biblical Jesus of which fulfilling at least one prophecy, of which the chain of prophecies that lead to that prophecy are also to be taken to be true, all the way to the point of believing that the first chapter of Genesis was true. Trying to blaspheme the biblical account by admitting that more than half of the bible canon to be actual historical events is still a huge defeat. At least Naturalists are completely fine with assuming that such events might had happened, while leaving out why it happened yet of course that would mean they're "agnostics" because they don't know what subjectively happened and merely assume what objectively might had happened, and you can't objectively verify an event that you weren't there to see it. It's like the whole chicken or egg thing, you can't ever objectively answer the question regardless of what you believe or a belief in a denial of what others believe. h ttps://w ww.youtube.com/watch?v=wRb0-ZtAp9A


Anonymous 09/04/2017 (Mon) 16:59:17 Id: 4b3e10 [Preview] No. 55164 del
>>55163
>The Templars merely found an more ancient form of the basis behind the same druidic myth of which has nothing to do with Christianity.
I believe their excavations in Jerusalem led them to uncover the truth of the fictional nature of Christianity as well as the sources from which the Abramahic traditions stole, namely the Egyptians, Sumerians, and Persians with Christianity incorporating more Greek ideas as well. In the modern day, the Dead Sea materials have confirmed part of what they found, that Yeshua is a fictional amalgam of several hundred years worth of Semitic revolutionaries. This explains why the Christ myth so closely matches other religious traditions, because it was a Semitic adaption of those concepts for the purpose of justifying an eternal proto-Marxist revolt and the subversion of Rome.

The Templars themselves, or at least a cadre within the organization who studied what was found in Jerusalem and then the Egyptian tradition, took up a set of symbols which go back to pre-Christian religions. Based on their usage of the grail and the ark of the covenant together, it's also likely that they found the resting place of the ark in Ethiopia as well as uncovering its origin as a technology of Egypt. The message which seems to come down from the Templars and early Freemasons is "Ignore Abrahamic traditions, look to Egypt."


Anonymous 09/04/2017 (Mon) 20:13:35 Id: c0e4ad [Preview] No. 55168 del
>>55160
>I truly got nothing to hide
You must live quite a sheltered life if you can afford such a luxury
>original Christianity were 100% pacifists
That depends on what you consider to be the original Christianity. Jesus was crucified for starting an armed rebellion against the Roman Empire. But his teachings were not originally his to start with. But you are right, many of those orders were not truly Christian (which is a good thing)
>You're oversimplifying it, they've respected Islam as an authentic religion
Diplomacy. And Islam was not unaffected by other religions in the area either. Be it Christianity or pre-Christian cults.
>There's no such thing as "pre-Christian" Gnosticism.
Gnostic teachings in one form or another go as far back as Sumeria/Mesopotamia, and there are theories that they are much older than that (If we go by the hypothesis that even older ancient civilizations existed in the past)
>Jewish sects
They were dabbling in various religions for their gain since time immemorial. Ironically, they also served as a carrier of certain ideas that are an anti-thesis of their national being, which they later tried to suppress. That's why the line between them and their real enemies is so blurry in recorded history.
>Wrong yet again. Constatine the Great wanted to merge Christianity with Mithraism
Where did you read this? Inb4 Orthodox Christianity is the only true Christianity
>But you don't seem to get why.
Because they are both deities of a certain mystery religion?
>"Opposite" is a lie, they both seek power, they both dabbled in demonic conjuring to gain fortunes, they're both Materialists.
They both seek power indeed, but ones conjured demons in order to defeat them (gain power over them and thus gain control over a certain "demonic" aspect of their own personality), and others did it in order to acquire favors of those demons in exchange of serving them. Also, ones seek to impose mind/spirit over matter, while others seek the opposite, to trap the mind/spirit by imposing the matter (mass) onto it. It's all a matter of approach.
>Mithraism is Zoroastrianism + Astrology
It's far more complex than that. It's more a variation of Pythagoreanism than Zoroastrianism if we observe it's philosophical, rather than symbolic teachings. Magussaeans were not the only Magi out there, and the people known today as Jews might not have too much in common with ancient Israelites, or should I say the original inhabitants of "Israel", the Canaanites.
>The point is that the Chaldeans were more intertwined with Judaism than you are willing to recognize nor even admit to for now.
Why are their teachings so different then? Judaism does not recognize Kaballah for example. Even Talmudic Judaism does not share many similarities with most forms of gnosticism (it has it's own esoteric form, but that one goes in a whole other direction). It's a completely different type of religion.


Anonymous 09/04/2017 (Mon) 20:41:10 Id: c0e4ad [Preview] No. 55169 del
>>55162
>Philip was in debt to both groups and saw them as a "state within the state"
And they were indeed that.
>as well as its later incarnation as the Jesuit order
Templars (the real ones) weren't the founders of the Society of Jesus, although many were members (as informants). Cloak and dagger activities were quite popular at the time.
>Just because a bunch of people agree to something doesn't make it right. A proper understanding of metaphysical ontology as well as ontotheology is required to grasp it.
Indeed, I just described the context
>Why would Jews be Jewing?
So who is jewing who now? In any case, their allegiance to the Venetians was quite weak and forced by the circumstances, not relations.
>You can't sell a national treasure
Of course you can, many monarchs did that in history in order to guarantee safety and luxurious life in a foreign country because they were too cowardly to face the revolution or a coup at home.
>you can't destroy a physical representation of the constitution of a nation
You can burn or "lose" the original. Also seen many times. You can't destroy the idea of it, but that's a different story.
>I assume you don't believe in equality.
No, but getting rid of everything that defines you is a good way of achieving it. Whenever it's possible or not.
>There's no Messiah and there's no Satan, just, people.
People create ideas, but sometimes ideas create people. Sometimes ideas get a mind of their own.


Anonymous 09/04/2017 (Mon) 21:41:56 Id: c0e4ad [Preview] No. 55171 del
>>55161
I am not 100% sure, but yes, that seems to be the most likely scenario. There seems to be a continuity, one might even say the succession, starting with certain ancient secret society, moving towards Egypt, various Gnostic sects and the ancient Greek Illuminati, then to other parts of Europe (spread by pagan Romans), then further north by various "heresies" of which the Cathars and Templars (at a later stage) were most prominent, then even further, to Scotland and overseas (by various privateers that later became the original Freemasons, albeit a very specific rite). They had a strong foothold in Germany which later brought us a knightly order that Hitler and the inner circle of NSDAP were initiated in. All along the way they were followed by the Jew who was always just one step behind, making them face heavy persecution (while being responsible for the persecution of the Jews by revealing their schemes and crimes). The question is, were they bringing a foreign element into Europe, or returning something that was lost long ago? The scientific discoveries that followed their presence were not a coincidence either.

But the Jew brought us the corruption of pretty much every order, religion and institution they have created, and the browning of the gene-pool and collapse of every ancient and modern civilization that they had erected.

>From that time onward, the grail of the templars is the truth about the falsehood of Christianity itself
It was, and is, much more than that.

Jews have managed to copy and mimic most of their knowledge over the countless centuries, hence why they were able to infiltrate and corrupt so many societies, adding a certain knowledge of their own in the mix. That's why most people are taken on a wrong lead when it comes to these conspiracies. But this goes way beyond Jews, which are only an instrument of something much more sinister. Their god and his other emissaries on earth.


Anonymous 09/04/2017 (Mon) 22:18:08 Id: 4b3e10 [Preview] No. 55172 del
>>55171
I've often wondered what pre-Templar group was active within Europe keeping the Old Ways alive under Christian tyranny. The clearest sign of their presence has to be the architectural knowledge hidden within many churches and cathedrals. It's simple enough to explain their placement along leylines and in alignment with solstice sunrises due to the tendency to demolish pre-Christian sites and build over top of them, but the inclusion of sub-harmonic resonance producing acoustics is a direct parallel with various megalithic constructions. It would also make sense that such a group would work on the Templars to teach them about the things they would have been digging up in Jerusalem and the connection of Egyptian derived alchemy.

It might be fascinating to try to trace such things by examining cathedrals for signs of hidden knowledge, but it'd probably be more beneficial to try to track what happened to such groups after WWII. As far as I've seen, the three routes which have been explored are the Paperclip exports to America, the equivalent transfers to Russia, and those that fled to South America. It seems like there might be some underground elements in Japan responsible for all sorts of cults being used as fronts for clandestine activities (amusingly enough, they even make those cults vehemently anti-Semitic). However, all of those keepers of the Old Ways appear to be highly concealed. It'd be great if we could get one of them to fund a fucking imageboard so we have a reliable base on the net.

I wouldn't say that this all goes way beyond the Jews, except that "Jews" should be more properly rendered as "the Semitic race." They are indeed manifestations of evil itself, but that does not remove them from the equation in a way that the truth goes way beyond them.


Anonymous 09/04/2017 (Mon) 23:52:28 Id: 88e217 [Preview] No. 55174 del
>>55164
>I believe
You lost me right there. Also, you can't truly "steal" culture, that's the dumbest thing anyone can say to you. There's no culture that didn't "steal" from something else, so does that mean there's no such thing as "original" culture that uses certain ideas to convey other ideas that are actually original? Of course not, you've got to be really retarded to claim that they're all the "same", or you're being scammed by sensationalists. The Dead Sea scrolls are from a Essene (Jewish gnostic) sect that never had more than 200 people that had held gnostic writings that the Jews at the time knew that the Qumran valley area was inhabited by a cult that both Jews and later by Christians denounced as heretical. There's more inconsistencies that goes on that you simply are not aware of. They were anti-Levitical and were obsessed with avoiding anything with physical matter and "cleanliness", making up more erroneous laws that even the Pharisees had found to be frivolous meaningless traditions that are not based on anything in the Old Testament but really based on Hellenic rationalism. They at a certain point tampered with the texts that they had held with their dialect. The Isaiah scroll (1QIsaiaha) had their edit while 1QIsaiahb is the same as what the Jews had kept that's older which their edited version (1QIsaiaha) was also grammatically incorrect. Academicians are making up excuses to denounce real, historical Christianity by leaving out details from the public by using a historically known false sect. The Dead Sea scrolls are really a Jewish publicity stunt to justify the existence of the State of Israel through religious archaeology of which if they were truly honest, anything about real historical Christianity denounces the existence of the idea of a Jew 100%. The Zeitgeist movie and all that participated in it were spewing bullshit from Theosophists of which virtually made up their own references and books to back up their claims of which is not verified by any honest historian of which is actually denounced by any honest historian to be a fabricated mess, you just don't want to listen to opposing proof. h ttps://w ww.youtube.com/watch?v=k5KHA9f6kHs h ttps://w ww.youtube.com/watch?v=knNjbWKwz8E (cont.)


Anonymous 09/04/2017 (Mon) 23:52:50 Id: 88e217 [Preview] No. 55175 del
>>55164
The Ethiopian Orthodox Tewahedo Church doesn't have the Ark of the Covenant, it was missing after Jeremiah/Jeremias took it away and hid it in secret underground caves. Ethiopia is realistically too far to go by a cave network. Herod's Temple didn't have the Arc of the Covenant yet they still did ritual sacrifices on essentially, nothing, while the Pharisees became an institutionalized religious organization under the rule of Caesar of which through the traditions of the Jewish people's method of distributing welfare, taxation was done through them to the Roman empire of which the Pharisees got a small cut of. I had shared this link about the Holy Grail once, and now it is here twice. Take a hint, buddy. h ttps://w ww.youtube.com/watch?v=wRb0-ZtAp9A

Again, neither Christians nor skeptics can objectively prove to me that the miracles that Jesus supposedly had done was real, but there's enough eye witness accounts to convince enough people that the original Christians would rather die than to denounce any crucial part of the gospel message, and that there's various historians that tried to downplay or outright lie about Jesus in essentially making up theories of what might had happened when they also don't know what had happened. Some things are more better off left as a historical mystery, while trying to demystify one mystery with another more insane cult is not a real substitute but a desperate attempt to hate a good story of which if it's true, is quite an interesting love story from "God" to mankind, even if it isn't actually metaphysically accurate like claiming a non corporeal spirit can manifest and unmanifest whenever it wants to which violates both metaphysics and physics. Any fool that tries to objectively denounce an objective cult that insists that it's objectively real is objectively foolish, like those that answers objective paradoxes objectively of which cannot be truly objectively verified.


Anonymous 09/05/2017 (Tue) 00:03:07 Id: 4b3e10 [Preview] No. 55177 del
>>55174
>>55175
So wait, are you a Christcuck? It's genuinely difficult to decipher your rambling nonsense posts.


Anonymous 09/05/2017 (Tue) 00:29:37 Id: 88e217 [Preview] No. 55178 del
>>55168
>You must live quite a sheltered life if you can afford such a luxury
If you don't die for the truth, your life was not worth living to begin with.
>Jesus was crucified for starting an armed rebellion against the Roman Empire.
Wrong, Jesus promoted pacifism. The first Jewish-Roman revolts are from the Gnostic Pharisee (((Philo of Alexandria))) minting their own coinage.
>And Islam was not unaffected by other religions in the area either. Be it Christianity or pre-Christian cults.
Until they were of course, since Islam was a creation funded by the Vatican. h ttps://w ww.youtube.com/watch?v=CSHenSfLh2s
>Gnostic teachings in one form or another go as far back as Sumeria/Mesopotamia, and there are theories that they are much older than that (If we go by the hypothesis that even older ancient civilizations existed in the past)
Loosely defining "gnostic teachings" isn't historical Gnosticism of which always is based on Hellenic rationalism and surrounding religious syncretism. Again, Pythagoreans, Stoics, Greek Atomists, Aristotelians, Sophists, they weren't what modern people think of "Gnosticism". Religious syncretism however, existed forever and calling that gnostic is to claim that all human culture is gnostic, which it isn't.
>They were dabbling in various religions for their gain since time immemorial. Ironically, they also served as a carrier of certain ideas that are an anti-thesis of their national being, which they later tried to suppress. That's why the line between them and their real enemies is so blurry in recorded history.
The problem is that you had assumed that Jews "ALWAYS" existed. Nope. There's many older cultures than the Jews but you're really giving too much credit to the Jews.
>Where did you read this? Inb4 Orthodox Christianity is the only true Christianity
Constantine the Great promoted a solar cult, even modern "gnostics" admit to this of which the Nicene creed was too lenient and allowed syncretism between Mithraism and Christianity. "Orthodox" Christianity is the Eastern Roman Catholic Church, and the Byzantine Empire is the Eastern Holy Roman Empire. The Roman Catholic Church is Western. Although they have their theological differences concerning Augustine's filioque since the Roman Catholic Church was more Aristotelian while the Eastern patriarchs were more Platonic in insisting that the spirit only comes from the father and not through the son.
>Also, ones seek to impose mind/spirit over matter, while others seek the opposite, to trap the mind/spirit by imposing the matter (mass) onto it.
Catholicism (east or west) does the passover incorrectly, and so does some Protestant sects. Those that do do it correctly don't believe in transubstantiation and so aren't "Mithraic". (cont.)


Anonymous 09/05/2017 (Tue) 00:30:25 Id: 88e217 [Preview] No. 55179 del
>>55168
>It's more a variation of Pythagoreanism than Zoroastrianism
Pythagoreans don't believe in Mithraism, they also don't do "magic" either. All these modern pseudo gnostics are numerous, 9 out of 10 have never actually directly read a translation from an actual Pythagorean, Platonist, or Neo-Pythagorean. The Mithraic cult's initiations are not what the Pythagoreans had done, they're really incompatible.
>Jews might not have too much in common with ancient Israelites, or should I say the original inhabitants of "Israel", the Canaanites.
The problem is, Canaanites are Phoenicians are Zidonians are Babylonians are Chaldeans, while most of the Israelites (the twelve tribes/patriarchs of Israel/Jacob) were part Isaac, part Midianite, part Canaanite. A few didn't marry Canaanites like Joseph for example, married an Egyptian. Also, Kenites are not Canaanites, that's a huge rookie mistake people make in researching these things.
>Why are their teachings so different then? Judaism does not recognize Kaballah for example. Even Talmudic Judaism does not share many similarities with most forms of gnosticism (it has it's own esoteric form, but that one goes in a whole other direction). It's a completely different type of religion.
Kabbalah = traditions, of which only those that are been in Yeshivas and are over 40 years or so are allowed to study them. Have you actually seen the kind of shit modern Jews claim to believe in? There's no limits and it's 100% justified in their Talmudic writings because it's the interpreters that determine the law and Rabbis have authority to determine what it is. Judaism had been reduced to "anything a self proclaimed Jew believes or don't believe in". It's groupthink. The Kabbalah is allowed through Talmudic Judaic authority, because anything is allowed if you're a Rabbi, though of course it slightly depends on how "Reformed" or "Orthodox" that sect of Judaism is, it's still Judaism. People don't understand how Hinduism works as well, it's not merely only about pantheistic junk, it's also about philosophy and other texts and schools taught by the Hindu people.


Anonymous 09/05/2017 (Tue) 00:39:03 Id: 8fa3fd [Preview] No. 55180 del
>>55178
>If you don't die for the truth, your life was not worth living to begin with.

Atheist pholosopher Bertnard Russel said, "I would never die for a cause because I might always be wrong."

But if you're convinced and know nothing will change your mind, then please kill yourself for the sake of the gene pool. You cannot be as smart as Russel.


Anonymous 09/05/2017 (Tue) 00:48:26 Id: 88e217 [Preview] No. 55181 del
>>55177
No, you just don't understand the very religion you claim to know and refute against. I'm not a Christian, but I'm not the modern connotation of a gnostic, nor an atheist, nor an agnostic. I'm also not a pagan.

>>55180
Bertrand Russel is an Aristotelian hack that doesn't believe in any truth, yet that is what he've spent many years in the denial of the truth. He's the academic version of Aleister Crowley. He's also fundamentally no different than Aristotle the cowards that fled persecution instead of fighting against his persecutors like Socrates had done. Bertrand Russel and Aristotle both have no concept of ontological morals because they reject the absolute principle behind everything, they are a-theos, deny the divine principle of metaphysics itself and claiming that only physics is all that there is. I am wiser than Bertrand Russel and I can spell better than you at the very least. It's quite pathetic to see followers of people claiming that their "leader" is better than those that they critique when they are subordinate to the leader of which they praise for all the wrong reasons and don't truly understand what the fuck their leader actually promoted and doesn't truly fully practice it themselves by appealing to authority like that.


Anonymous 09/05/2017 (Tue) 00:55:38 Id: 4b3e10 [Preview] No. 55183 del
>>55181
I understand it quite a bit better than you do, considering you dance around the topic of the obvious fictional nature of Yeshua and argue against the origins of his myth.


Anonymous 09/05/2017 (Tue) 01:00:44 Id: 8998db [Preview] No. 55185 del
>>55181
>>55183
fanaticism is bad.


Anonymous 09/05/2017 (Tue) 01:01:27 Id: 88e217 [Preview] No. 55186 del
>>55169
>Templars (the real ones)
The original Templars DIED OUT before there was a Jesuit order. The later Templars that fled persecution sought refuge under the Kingdom of Aragon and of course those that fled maintained their wealth and status with them. The four Aragon knight orders are all united by the Jesuit order. The former King Juan Carlos of Spain had quite some power over the Spanish Jesuits over through the Aragon knighthoods.
>Indeed, I just described the context
Your context still assumed that people understands metaphysical ontology as well as ontotheology. Did you ever seen someone use "ontotheology" before outside of endchan? I highly doubt that.
>So who is jewing who now?
Jews Jewing Jews Jewing Jews. That's been history for the west for at least 3500 years.
>Of course you can, many monarchs did that in history in order to guarantee safety and luxurious life in a foreign country because they were too cowardly to face the revolution or a coup at home.
Monarchs own their own junk, are not an actual treasury managed by the people.
>You can burn or "lose" the original.
But the Treasury is in charge in keeping it protected from destruction, while banks don't deal with protecting stuff like that. The Treasury isn't a pawn shop either.
>No, but getting rid of everything that defines you is a good way of achieving it. Whenever it's possible or not.
Is your body "you", or is it a vessel that you control? Does that mean that the vessel cannot "own" the psyche behind the body and so the psyche is not within the body? Psyche by the way, isn't "mind", but it's consciousness. If you also believe that you are your beliefs, then you believe wrong, for "you" don't change even if your perception changes.


Anonymous 09/05/2017 (Tue) 01:15:38 Id: 88e217 [Preview] No. 55187 del
>>55183
At this point, you have refused to refute anything nor cite any reliable sources, but the problem here is the attempt to objectively solve an objective paradox when it can only be subjectively solved. By subject I don't mean relativity, but understanding what is a subject, what is an object, and what is a being. A being is a living object manipulated by a subject but the subject is not within the living object. When the living object dies, the subject behind it doesn't. A disembodied being is the pure subject. What the embodied being sees in the mirror is reflection of the physical living object of which the subject observes no subject within the object in and of itself but if it thinks that object is the subject, they are wrong. Objective life is not what a pure subject wants because it's objectively crap. Now why would the source of all subjects (therefore, all pure subjects are an extension of one) want to manifest itself in corruptible existential life? It can't be, that's what. There's no true unity between the "spirit" and the "flesh" although a spirit can puppet a living meatbag, it still isn't within the meatbag, a subject cannot be objectified. The objectification of God is what various cults falsely believed in, regardless of polytheism or monotheism, if they believe in that, they're automatically Materialists and are agnostic for not knowing their own ignorance of why that isn't true.


Anonymous 09/05/2017 (Tue) 01:23:24 Id: 88e217 [Preview] No. 55188 del
Pythagoreans were Panentheistic Monist, Mithraism is Henotheism, original Judaism (before Babylonian exile) is Monolatrism. Both Henotheism and Monolatrism implies Pluralism and so is not Monistic and so have nothing to do with Panentheism as well as Monism.

By the way, Zoroastrianism existed around the eight century BC, Mithraism in the sixth, Pythagoreanism around the fifth. Pythagoreanism didn't influence Mithraism.


Anonymous 09/05/2017 (Tue) 01:34:53 Id: 4b3e10 [Preview] No. 55190 del
>>55187
It's truly astonishing how you can use so many words to say so little, and fail to present a relevant argument all the while.


Anonymous 09/05/2017 (Tue) 02:45:05 Id: 88e217 [Preview] No. 55194 del
>>55190
That's because for one, it's a simplex concept that can't be oversimplified and two, it's not an argument but a subjective, metaphysical proof that there are no such thing as a physical God while any object that has animation is moved by the subject behind the object, of which said subject is an extension of the source of all subjects which is of one subject formed out of one unmanifest force made aware of its own power, but the unmanifest force by itself knows nothing. You are merely repeating yourself at this point, so you have nothing else to really say. The truth isn't really complicated, but being too fixated in religious hatred makes one blind to understanding metaphysics and how Pythagoreans actually think. I've already proven my stance, you've merely objectively denied it as a matter of objective opinion when you cannot objectively prove your stance as much as my stance to be true because fundamentally, this is as foolish as the whole chicken or egg paradox which nobody knows and only make objective assumptions about them and so, anyone that tries to objectively prove one over another are both right and wrong and so never will transcend existential epistemologies from incorrect belief systems and dogmas, and will be a stagnant, monolithic cult no matter which objective stance you take in the denial or approval of the existence of an ontological being in history. There is no "original sin", no prima causa, no beginning nor end, all are misunderstandings of nature itself.


Anonymous 09/05/2017 (Tue) 02:57:42 Id: 4b3e10 [Preview] No. 55195 del
>>55194
>You are merely repeating yourself at this point, so you have nothing else to really say.
Rather ironic, especially considering your posts have had so little to say in the first place.

By the way, your entire premise is wrong. There is no distinction between "spirit" and "flesh," both are the same. The spirit is the meatbag.


Anonymous 09/05/2017 (Tue) 03:51:08 Id: 88e217 [Preview] No. 55197 del
>>55195
>The spirit is the meatbag
Spoken like a stupid Atheistic Materialist.


Anonymous 09/05/2017 (Tue) 04:28:23 [Preview] No. 55202 del
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>>55197
Genesis 2:7
1 Timothy 6:15-16
1 Corinthians 15:51-55
Acts 7:59-60
John 11:11-14
John 11:43
1 Thessalonians 4:13-17
Daniel 12:2
Psalm 146:4
Ecclesiastes 9:4-6


Anonymous 09/05/2017 (Tue) 08:00:10 Id: 88e217 [Preview] No. 55210 del
>>55202
Go back to your various dead boards, Tor poster.

You stupid Atheists are just as stupid as Creationists, making up bullshit like parallel universes without explaining where nor why they exist while quantifying a field that has no quantity, and honestly think that a vacuum sealed tube is emitting particles when there's no radioactive particles escaping an energized tungsten filament encased in glass. Anything smaller than a proton isn't real while neutrons are just protons without an active electric field around it but they terminate into protons when left alone for a few minutes. All matter is in a constant state of motion or else it would terminate into lower energy light and vanishes into the ambient surrounding energy, AKA: energy annihilation. Matter therefore, is a perpetually self contained motion fixed to a single point. The real question is where did force and motion come from, and those that say "dark energy/matter" are bullshitting, just as those that claim that quarks, gluons, bosons, gravitons, tachyons, antiprotons, etc., are real are ultimately bullshitting liars, are no different than retards that looking for unicorns and leprechauns as "virtual particles". There is no beginning to the universe, there is no end to the universe, and yes there's only one universe because it is unlimit, limitless. There's no "objective" way of knowing the origin of humanity to be either from ayy lmaos or from primordial chemical soup since if we are an alien race, where did they come from, and if they did come from a bunch of fucking chemicals, where did that come from? There's never an objective answer to questions that actually means anything to mankind that seeks remedy to their natural, existential life, and neither academia nor religions can answer it for you directly without it being merely taken as objective fact when it's really through subjective inquiry that one can know by themselves what was previously unknown to them through questioning what it isn't and what it supposed to be, and if it isn't what it supposed to be, then what is it not so that one can come to know more of what is left over, until this process continues until it cannot be corrected anymore as the absolute principle idea is introspectively discovered. It's because those that fail to understand the subject behind the object that they also fail to know the difference between one object and another since they're all essentially a bunch of protons and neutrons in different configurations, such excessive deductive logic cannot tell the difference between a golden lion and a lion since they're both made out of matter. Materialists cannot define life by itself, they can only define change in matter through excessively over complicated mathematical formulations of all the potential variables the body needs to experience life, of which is never a constant because life is different from one organism to another.


Anonymous 09/05/2017 (Tue) 11:43:43 Id: 4b3e10 [Preview] No. 55212 del
>>55210
>nothing is real except my bullshit!
>there are no objective answers, except the one I provide!
>you're an atheistic materialist because you don't believe in my strict delineation between matter and spirit which fails to even define spirit because I can't be assed to present a complete theory
>I don't understand wave-particle duality as a model for photon propagation, but you should totally listen to what I have to say
Well at least you are partially correct on dark gravity, but of course you can't provide an alternative to what you're disputing because you're nothing more than a self-important idiot.


Anonymous 09/05/2017 (Tue) 13:01:37 Id: 88e217 [Preview] No. 55213 del
>>55212
>nothing is real except my bullshit!
Says you, I never said such a thing.
>there are no objective answers, except the one I provide!
Subjective answers has no objective answers to them and again, subject is not referring to relativity. Not all answers are meant to be answered subjectively, not all answers are meant to be answered objectively. Objective paradoxes however, cannot be objectively answered without contradicting objectively.
>you're an atheistic materialist because you don't believe in my strict delineation between matter and spirit which fails to even define spirit because I can't be assed to present a complete theory
I didn't fail to explain it, but communication is a two way street and I'm really trying to meet you half way, but you don't seem to give a shit about it yet hypocritically care enough to tell me that you think that I'm wrong without asking me what you don't understand, but that's what ignorant people that don't believe that they're ignorant believe that they're not ignorant, won't even entertain a thought nor seek to explain HOW they think. I've already explained HOW I think. I have already simplified thousands of hours of research but it can never be explained on an imageboard without it being corrupted by oversimplified metaphors that takes the analogy too far. It's really not that I'm lazy nor have no time to, it's just really incredibly hard to explain to those that were brought up with garbage lies for essentially all of their lives. The red pill is nothing compared to trying to understand what the fuck Pythagoreans, Platonists, and Neopythagoreans actually meant, partially because translators don't understand the concept behind what they're translating while even if it is translated correctly (which isn't always the case), the understanding to come to understand how to understand itself is hard to understand because it has to be done introspectively and never externally. I had shared the works of others that had presented a complete explanation, but it was largely ignored by mental trolls that abuse relative semantics. Read Rene Guenon, Ananda Kentish Coomaraswamy and Algis Uzdavinys' books. Take note that Traditional schools despise Theosophists as hack frauds. (cont.)


Anonymous 09/05/2017 (Tue) 13:05:03 Id: 88e217 [Preview] No. 55214 del
>>55212
>I don't understand wave-particle duality as a model for photon propagation, but you should totally listen to what I have to say
Light phases around dense matter of which matter is merely very high energy light spinning in specific directions of which creates a field that can be configured to put similar particles together or apart (chemistry). Light is the perturbation of a field from a loss of counterspatial inertia and acceleration into spatial force and motion. Light doesn't propagate just as waves only goes up and down which through pressure mediation, the field disequilibrium created in one area that goes up necessitatively goes down right next to it. Waves don't actually move, that's an illusion. Light is not a "photon", while the electrostatic effect cannot work if e doesn't equal to hv, of which claiming v is a constant is pure bullshit. What's going on in a Crookes radiometer that the greater the v, the more discharge created from the higher capacitance light in the blue end of the light spectrum charging the side of the metal of which the higher the capacitance, the higher the compression of light. A laser is coherent light, a light bulb is incoherent light, Using a red laser to move a Crookes radiometer is slower than using a purple laser to move a Crookes radiometer. Claiming that one up and down of a wave is a photon particle/"wave packet" is calling a verb with a specific adverb that only describes a part of the entirety of the verb when the noun of which the verb is dependent on is the AETHER of which QM fags deny it exists yet tries to replace it with nonsense particles and the gluon field (still quantifying a quantity like stupid imbeciles). The only realistic representation of atoms is the balloon model that only shows its electromagnetic field. The Aether is the threshold in between counterspace and space. It's the divided line between the metaphysical and the physical.
>you can't provide an alternative to what you're disputing because you're nothing more than a self-important idiot.
Wrong. The only thing you did get partially right about me is that I really don't want to explain every little fucking thing about these things. If you don't think I'm right, stop replying. If you think I might be right, also stop replying and do your own research, understand for yourself these things. It's more foolish to waste your time on fools that you've admitted that they're fools. There's others that have more wisdom that occasionally come here, so this post is really not for you alone but for those who have the wisdom to recognize their lack of wisdom. Your love of your false temporal self makes you no different than a sentient piece of shit that makes shit, grows shit from shit, and eats shit and takes a shit. You're fundamentally just as how many Jews think of themselves.


Anonymous 09/05/2017 (Tue) 13:14:28 Id: 9da2fd [Preview] No. 55215 del
>>55212
I don't think he's making a point of providing the only correct answer, he's making a point that nobody should because he's autistically incapable of handling incomplete suppositions. This is what makes autism an actual mental handicap, they're not as good as math as you would think because imaginary numbers is an offensive halfway point to them.

We Christians still call that action of suspension of disbelief by the verb 'to believe', a subjectively held supposition that happens in the framework that we call 'faith'. Secular atheist tradition however has been replacing subjectivity of faith with the absolute statement that knowing facts is a fundamentally different experience that knowing falsehoods, making obsolete the concept of an equal experience of knowledge regardless of how that lines up with reality. This mechanic known as 'faith' is then arbitrarily redefined as just being wrong, and a meaningless word that should be eradicated as wrongthink. It's like writing off the concept of subjectively 'seeing' because only thing that matters is what 'is apparent' by its material nature.

I do come across atheists back pedaling into statements like, " no, we didn't erase the concept, we now call it something like 'confidence' ". The secular word seems to change depending on the speaker, and it doesn't seem to phase them that it often strikes as only more tribalistic and vague than just calling it 'faith'. Confidence for example literally carries the meaning of confidement to an authority, but hey, it sounds less religious so it's good atheist PR.

I do disclaim (? eh.) though, this is a tangent.


Anonymous 09/05/2017 (Tue) 18:13:52 Id: 62acf6 [Preview] No. 55217 del
>>55215
>We Christians


Anonymous 09/05/2017 (Tue) 18:56:32 [Preview] No. 55218 del
>>55217
>all Christians are fat white Americans
>there are no Christians outside of America
>there are no Christians who aren't fat or white


Anonymous 09/05/2017 (Tue) 21:50:25 Id: bf0fb8 [Preview] No. 55221 del
>>55215
Faith is pretending to know what you don't know. It as a method cannot ever lifer the truth about anything.


Anonymous 09/05/2017 (Tue) 21:50:45 Id: bf0fb8 [Preview] No. 55222 del
After* not lifter


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Anonymous 09/05/2017 (Tue) 23:39:11 Id: 88e217 [Preview] No. 55225 del
>>55215
I didn't ask you to speak for me, and your analysis is incorrect. The inductive/additive method is just as terrible as the deductive method in defining what was previously indefinite and ambiguous. Just because you can observe something correctly doesn't mean your hypothesis nor your conclusions are correct because of it. You've also failed to understand the definition of subjective as in metaphysical extension of what is unmanifest. From the Monad [1] being aware of itself forms the Monad [first 1] and Nous (primordial ignorance, preconscious) [second 1] comes the Psyche [1] (extension of the Nous) and Psyche tou pantos [2] (mimesis of the Nous), of which comes eidos [1] (forms, kosmos noetos/nous-eidos), hyle [2] (matter, shadows, divided line), and mimesis of Psyche tou pantos [3] (reflections, kosmos aisthetos/mimesis of noetic reflections). Being being 5 is 2+3. Out of one formed another one that is united but formed two outside of itself while extending one outside of itself as well. The third one (Psyche) can understand forms but in its own ignorance thinks that shadows/hyle is real and so the physical reflection of what is physically seen is "real", believing the shadow puppets are real and not shadow puppets, forgetting the fourth one (eidos), so Psyche adds forms (metaphysics) to shadows of the Psyche tou pantos into making physics. Remove 3 out of 5 to get 1 and 2, remove 2 out of 1 and 2 to get 1 and 1, remove the second 1 to get the primordial 1. Totality is phi, emanation is 1 over phi, the absolute is 1, 1 is phi^0. Everything is explained between phi^-3 to phi^3, which phi^-3 is primordial ignorance and phi^3 is totality, the Nous with the power of the Monad released power to manifest the world (Psyche tou pantos). Magnetism/magnitude is also phi^-3 of which gives definition to phi^3. Such a claim is incomprehensible to modern science

The tetractys is actually on a 108-36-36 triangle where the two 108-36 sides are 1 and 36-36 side is phi. 1=1, 1&1=2, 1+2=3, 1&2+3=5. 4 is the illusion, it is space & time, but there's nevertheless a 4 in the tetractys. Phi is to one as one is to phi. If you draw a line from the 108 angle point that's exactly 1 over phi down to the phi line, you would make a smaller 108-36-36 triangle where one of the 108-36 sides of being 1 becomes a new phi while the 1/phi line becomes a new 1. A pentagram is merely three 108-36-36 isosceles triangles stacked on top of each other. The tetractys can be divided into three areas. The area between the 1 and 1-2, the area between 1-2 and 1-2-3, and the area between 1-2-3 and 1-2-3-4. Congrats, you've found the ancient Trinity of Father, Mother, Son. The Father made the Mother out of itself, the Son is the extension of the Father through the Mother. Replace Father, Mother, Son, with Sun, Earth, Moon in that order. Horus is really both a moon god and a sun god in reflecting the light of the sun. This isn't necessarily "astrology" nor "astronomy", it's not even "astrotheology", it's just a symbolic method of explaining oneness of a triad that removes the illusion of duality yet allows union between Father and Son, God and Mankind in removing the 2 from Mother/Nature/Natura Naturans/Kaos of which is still a part of Monism though an ancient form of it held by Egyptians and the actual Hermes Trismegistus of the actual "emerald tablet", not the fraudulent one made by New Agers. The actual union of the Son becoming the Father only happens after death, but those that understand it don't have to return to the womb of nature, escapes reanimation (reincarnation is false, it only applies to matter but not the spirit because there's no spirit inside matter). Set therefore actually represents those that reject the light of the Father, ignorant people, but if you dimwits claim that Set is the biblical Seth as well as the Sethian cult, you're just fucking retarded. If you say that Set is symbolically the Jews, I'd buy that though, but it can also apply to anyone else who's ignorant.


Anonymous 09/05/2017 (Tue) 23:53:01 Id: 88e217 [Preview] No. 55226 del
>>55225
Egyptian Monotheism is really Monism and doesn't actually believe in the old myths that they borrow from, they only use myths to convey something else. Plato also did just that, and various other cultures eventually formed a similar concept extracted out of their cultures. Theosophists however, only put it all in a blended, are blind fools that can't tell the difference because they literally and figuratively interpret things to suit their stupid agendas in forming a syncretic cult to trick retards into serving them.


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Anonymous 09/06/2017 (Wed) 16:30:53 Id: 9da2fd [Preview] No. 55239 del
>>55225
You didn't need to ask, I'm covering for your failures for the sake of others. Okay then, let's again go back to use deductive reasoning:
> "your analysis is incorrect"
> = "I do mean do dictate to everybody what to think, the opposite analysis by the other guy was the correct one"
What I literally did was provide an alternative that you consistently fail to provide in a thousand words. And now you're stuck hypocritically blaming people for crowbaring some sense out of you by induction immediately after you denied somebody interpereting you using deduction. You just write shitty wikipedia summaries and use non sequiturs to deny any way to gleam intent form them. Since you appear to be almost like a robot with no cognitive function I just used the closed loop in your brain as a living example to prove that people are conspiring to add mercury to the drinking water.


Anonymous 09/06/2017 (Wed) 23:16:37 Id: 0d5c9c [Preview] No. 55253 del
>>52034
I would have liked to read it but it appears I am late to the party.


Anonymous 09/06/2017 (Wed) 23:32:45 Id: 4ea6be [Preview] No. 55255 del
>>55253
Clearly, ((they)) shut it down. Lets see.. Berlin July 13, 1934. Sage because this is going to be extremely long.
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Acting on behalf of the Reich Government, the President of the Reichstag, Hermann Göring, has called you together today in order to give me an opportunity to enlighten the Volk before this body, the highest appointed forum of the nation, concerning events which will hopefully live on in our history for all time as both a sad reminder and a warning. Out of a combination of objective circumstances and personal guilt, of human incompetence and human defects, a crisis arose in our young Reich which all too easily may have brought about truly destructive consequences for an indeterminate period of time. The purpose of my remarks is to explain to you and thus to the nation how they came about and were overcome. The contents of my remarks will be completely frank. Only in respect to scope must I impose upon myself limitations necessitated, on the one hand, by consideration to the interests of the Reich and, on the other, by the boundaries drawn by the feeling of shame. Street riots, barricade fighting, mass terror, and an individualistic propaganda of disintegration today trouble nearly all countries throughout the world. In Germany as well, a few isolated fools and criminals of this type are still making repeated attempts to ply their destructive trade. Since the defeat of the Communist Party, we have experienced, albeit growing constantly weaker, one attempt after another to establish Communist organizations with varying degrees of anarchist character and to put them to work. Their methods are always the same. While portraying the present lot as unbearable, they extol the Communist paradise of the future and, in doing so, are practically only waging war for hell. For the consequences of their victory in a country like Germany could be nothing other than destructive. However, the trial run of their capability and of the consequences of their rule have, in the concrete case, already produced results so clear to the German Volk that the overwhelming majority, particularly of the German workers, has recognized this Jewish-international benefactor of mankind and inwardly defeated it. The National Socialist State will wage a Hundred Years’ War, if necessary, to stamp out and destroy every last trace within its boundaries of this phenomenon which poisons and makes dupes of the Volk (Volksvernarrung). The second group of discontented is comprised of those political leaders who regard their futures as having been settled by January 30 but who have never been able to reconcile themselves to the irreversibility of this fact. The more Time veils their own incompetence with the merciful cloak of forgetfulness, the more they believe themselves entitled to gradually reintroduce themselves to the mind of the Volk. However, because their incompetence then was not a matter of time but a matter of inborn incompetence, they are equally unable today to prove their worth by positive, useful work but instead perceive their purpose in life as being fulfilled by voicing criticism which is as underhanded as it is false. The Volk does not belong to them either. They can neither seriously threaten the National Socialist State nor seriously damage it in any way. A third group of destructive elements is made up of those revolutionaries who were shaken and uprooted in 1918 in regard to their relation to the State and who thus have lost all inner connection to a regulated human social order.
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Anonymous 09/06/2017 (Wed) 23:34:00 Id: 4ea6be [Preview] No. 55256 del
>>55255
They have become revolutionaries who pay homage to the revolution for its own sake and would like to see it become a permanent state of affairs. All of us once suffered from the horrible tragedy that, as obedient and dutiful soldiers, we were suddenly faced by a revolt of mutineers who actually succeeded in gaining possession of the State. Each of us had originally been trained to abide by the laws, to respect authority and to show obedience to the commands and orders it issues, and instilled with an inner devotion to the representatives of the State. Now the revolution of deserters and mutineers forced us to inwardly disassociate ourselves from these concepts. We were unable to muster any respect for the new usurpers. Honor and obedience forced us to refuse to obey; love of the nation and the Vaterland obliged us to wage war on them; the amorality of their laws extinguished in us the conviction of the necessity for complying with them-and hence we became revolutionaries. However, even as revolutionaries, we had not disassociated ourselves from the obligation to apply to ourselves the natural laws of the sovereign right of our Volk and to respect these laws. It was not our intention to violate the will and the right of selfdetermination of the German Volk, but to drive away those who violated the nation. And when finally, legitimated by the trust of this Volk, we drew the consequences from our fourteen-year-long struggle, this was not done in order to unloose a chaos of unreined instincts, but with the sole aim of establishing a new and better order. For us, the revolution which shattered the Second Germany was nothing other than the tremendous act of birth which summoned the Third Reich into being. We wanted to once again create a State to which every German can cling in love; to establish a regime to which everyone can look up with respect; to find laws which are commensurate with the morality of our Volk; to install an authority to which each and every man submits in joyful obedience. For us, the revolution is not a permanent state of affairs. When a deathly check is violently imposed upon the natural development of a Volk, an act of violence may serve to release the artificially interrupted flow of evolution to allow it once again the freedom of natural development. However, there is no such thing as a permanent revolution or any type of profitable development possible by means of periodically recurring revolts. Among the countless files which I was obliged to read through in the past few weeks, I also found a journal with the notes of a man who was cast onto the route of resistance to the laws in 1918 and now lives in a world in which the law itself appears to provoke resistance; an unnerving document, an uninterrupted sequence of conspiracies and plots, an insight into the mentality of people who, without realizing it, have found in nihilism their ultimate creed. Incapable of any real cooperation, determined to take a stand against any kind of order, filled by hatred of every authority as they are, their uneasiness and their restlessness can be quelled only by their permanent mental and conspiratorial preoccupation with the disintegration of whatever exists at the given time. Many of them stormed the State with us in our early period of struggle, but an inner lack of discipline led most of them away from the disciplined National Socialist Movement in the course of the struggle. The last remnant seemed to have withdrawn after January 30. Their link with the National Socialist Movement was dissolved the moment this itself, as State, became the object of their pathological aversion. As a matter of principle, they are enemies of every authority and thus utterly incapable of being converted. Accomplishments which appear to strengthen the new German State only provoke their even greater hatred.
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Anonymous 09/06/2017 (Wed) 23:35:08 Id: 4ea6be [Preview] No. 55257 del
>>55256
For there is one thing, above all, which all of these oppositional elements principally have in common: they do not see before them the German Volk, but the institution of order they so abhor. They are filled not by a desire to help the Volk, but by the fervent hope that the government will fail in its work to rescue the Volk. Thus they are never willing to admit that an action is beneficial but are instead filled by the will to contest any success as a matter of principle and to extract from every success any potential weaknesses. This third group of pathological enemies of the State is dangerous because, until a new order has begun to crystallize from a state of chaotic conflict, they represent a reservoir of willing accomplices for every attempt at revolt. I must, however, now devote my attention to the fourth group, which on occasion-perhaps even unintentionally-nonetheless plies a truly destructive trade. I am speaking of those who belonged to a relatively small class in society, who have nothing to do and thus find the time and the opportunity to deliver oral reports on everything capable of bringing some interesting-and important-variety to their lives which are otherwise completely meaningless. For while the overwhelming majority in the nation is made to earn its daily bread by toilsome labor, in certain classes of life there are still people whose sole activity consists of doing nothing, followed by more of the same to recuperate from having done nothing. The more pathetic the life of such a drone is, all the more avidly will he seize upon whatever can fill this vacuum with some interesting content. Personal and political gossip is caught up eagerly and passed on even more eagerly. And because these people, as a result of doing nothing, have no living tie to the masses of the nation’s millions, their lives are delimitated by the scope of the sphere within which they move. Every bit of prattle which becomes absorbed by these circles throws its reflection back and forth endlessly as between two distorting mirrors. Because their very beings are filled with a nothingness which they constantly see reflected in those like them, they believe that this phenomenon is universal. They mistake the view of their circle for the view of all. Their doubts, they fancy, constitute the troubles of the entire nation. In reality, this little colony of drones is only a state within the State, without any living contact with life, with the feelings, hopes and cares of the rest of the Volk. However, they are dangerous, for they are veritable germ-carriers for unrest, uncertainty, rumors, allegations, lies, suspicions, slander, and fear, and thus they contribute to creating a gradually increasing tension until, in the end, it is difficult to recognize or draw the natural boundaries between them and the Volk. Just as they wreak their havoc in every other nation, they do so in Germany, too. They regarded the National Socialist Revolution as a conversation topic just as interesting as, on the other hand, the fight of the enemies of the National Socialist State. But one thing is certain: the work of rebuilding our Volk and, with it, the work of our Volk itself is only possible if the German Volk follows its leadership with inner calm, order and discipline and above all if it trusts in its leadership. For it is only the trust and the faith placed in the new State which have enabled us to take on and solve the great tasks put to us by former times. Even though the National Socialist regime was forced to come to terms with these various groups from the very beginning and has, in fact, come to terms with them, a mood has nonetheless arisen in the past few months which, in the end, could no longer be taken lightly. The prattle of a new revolution, of a new upheaval, of a new uprising- while at first infrequent-gradually took on such intensity that only a foolhardy leadership of state would have been capable of ignoring it.
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Anonymous 09/06/2017 (Wed) 23:36:16 Id: 4ea6be [Preview] No. 55258 del
>>55257
It was no longer possible to simply dismiss as empty chatter what was put down in hundreds and ultimately thousands of oral and written reports. Even three months ago, the leadership of the Party was convinced that it was simply the foolish gossip of political reactionaries, Marxist anarchists and all sorts of idlers, completely lacking any substantiation in fact. In mid-March I directed that preparations be made for a new wave of propaganda. It was to make the German Volk immune against any new attempts at poisoning. At the same time, however, I also gave certain Party Offices the order to track down the recurring rumors of a new revolution and, if possible, to locate the source of these rumors. It was found that tendencies had appeared in the ranks of several highranking SA leaders which naturally gave rise to serious doubts. At first, there were only isolated manifestations, the inner connections of which were not yet quite clear.
1. Against my express order and contrary to reports given me by former Chief of Staff Röhm, the SA had been blown into such proportions as to necessarily endanger the inner homogeneity of this unique organization.
2. Education in the National Socialist Weltanschauung was becoming more and more neglected in the ranks of these certain SA offices I have mentioned.
3. The natural relations between the Party and the SA slowly began to weaken. Methodical steps were taken, by means of which it was ascertained that endeavors were being made to disengage the SA from the mission which I had assigned to it in order to utilize it for other tasks or interests.
4. Promotions to leadership posts in the SA revealed themselves upon review to be based upon a completely one-sided evaluation of purely external capabilities or, in many cases, on a merely assumed intellectual capacity. The greater number of our oldest and most loyal SA men were increasingly neglected when leaders were appointed and posts filled, while those who had enlisted in 1933 and who are not favored with any especial regard within the Movement were incomprehensibly given priority. In some cases, only a few months of uninterrupted membership in the Party or even only in the SA sufficed for promotion to a higher SA office to which an old SA leader was barred access even after many years of service.
5. The behavior of these individual SA leaders who, for the most part, had in no way grown to become part of the Movement, was as un-National Socialist as, at times, it was positively revolting. However, it could not be overlooked that these circles contained one source of unrest in the Movement, which lay in the fact that their lack of practical National Socialism attempted to veil itself in quite uncalled for demands for a new revolution.
I drew Chief of Staff Röhm’s attention to this and a number of other problems, but this did not result in any noticeable improvement or even in any recognizable reaction to my censures. In the months of April and May, there was a constant increase in these complaints. For the first time, however, during this period I received reports-with supporting documentation-of discussions which had been held by individual high-ranking SA leaders and which can be described in no other terms than “gross insubordination” (große Ungehörigkeit). For the first time, there was undeniable supporting documentation in several cases that references had been made to the necessity of a new revolution in such discussions and that leaders had received instructions to prepare both inwardly and materially for such a new revolution. Chief of Staff Röhm attempted to deny that any of these incidents had in fact taken place, stating that they could be explained as disguised attacks on the SA.
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Anonymous 09/06/2017 (Wed) 23:37:35 Id: 4ea6be [Preview] No. 55259 del
>>55258
The gathering of evidence for several of these incidents by means of statements of parties involved ended in a most serious maltreatment of these witnesses who, for the most part, came from the ranks of the old SA. As early as the end of April, the leadership of the Party and a number of State institutions concerned were convinced that a certain group of high-ranking SA leaders had deliberately contributed to the alienation of the SA from the Party and other State institutions or at least had failed to prevent this from happening. Repeated attempts to remedy this through normal official channels failed each time. Chief of Staff Röhm gave me his personal assurance time and time again that the cases would be investigated and the guilty parties removed and, if necessary, punished. However, no visible change took place. In the month of may, several Party and State offices received countless complaints of offenses committed by high-ranking and middle-ranking SA leaders which, accompanied by supporting documentation, could not be denied. The offenses included everything from rabble-rousing speeches to intolerable excesses. Minister-President Göring had already previously endeavored in Prussia to give the authority of the National Socialist will of the State priority over the individual wills of certain elements. In other Länder, Party offices and public authorities had been forced, on occasion, to take a stand against certain intolerable excesses. A number of the parties responsible were arrested. I have always stressed that an authoritarian regime bears particularly great responsibilities. If it is demanded of the Volk that it place blind trust in its leadership, that leadership must earn this trust by its achievements and by particularly good behavior. Mistakes and errors may occur in a given case, but they can be eradicated. Bad behavior, drunken excesses, molesting peaceful, upstanding citizens-this is unworthy of a leader, contrary to National Socialism, and detestable to the utmost degree. Thus I have always insisted that higher demands be placed upon the behavior and conduct of National Socialist leaders than upon the other Volksgenossen. He who would command more respect for himself must in turn achieve more. The most basic thing which can be expected of him is that his life not be a disgraceful example to those around him. Thus I do not want National Socialists to be more leniently judged and punished for such offenses than other Volksgenossen; rather, I expect that a leader who forgets himself in this way be punished more severely than an unknown man would under identical circumstances. And I do not wish to make any distinction here between leaders of the political organizations and leaders of the formations of our SA, SS, HJ, etc. The determination of the National Socialist leadership of State to put an end to such excesses committed by unworthy elements who serve only to heap shame upon the Party and the SA evoked extremely vehement counter-reactions on the part of the Chief of Staff. The first of the original National Socialist fighters, a number of whom had struggled for nearly fifteen years for the victory of the Movement and now represented the Movement as high-ranking State officials in leading positions in our State, were called to account for the action they took against such unworthy elements; in other words, Chief of Staff Röhm attempted to take disciplinary action against these persons, the oldest supporters of the Party, in courts of honor composed in part of the youngest party comrades and even of persons who were not members of the Party. These conflicts led to very serious talks between Chief of Staff Röhm and myself, in the course of which, for the first time, doubts as to this man’s loyalty began to arise in my mind.
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Anonymous 09/06/2017 (Wed) 23:38:48 Id: 4ea6be [Preview] No. 55260 del
>>55259
Although I had rejected any such thoughts for many months, although I had personally protected this man in unshakable loyalty and comradeship for years in the past, warnings gradually began to leave their mark on me-above all, warnings from my deputy in the Party leadership, Rudolf Hess-which, try as I might, I could no longer refute. From May onwards, there could no longer be any doubt that Chief of Staff Röhm was involved in ambitious plans which, had they become reality, could have resulted only in the most violent disruptions. The fact that, throughout these months, I hesitated again and again to make any final decision, was due to the following:
1. I could not simply reconcile myself to the idea that a relationship which I had built upon trust could be nothing but a lie.
2. I still harbored the secret hope of being able to spare the Movement and my SA the disgrace of such a confrontation and to repair the damage without bitter fighting.
However, the end of May brought even more alarming facts to light. Chief of Staff Röhm began to depart, not only inwardly, but with his entire outward behavior, from the Party. All of the principles with which we had become great lost their validity. The life which the Chief of Staff-and with him, a certain circle of others-began to lead was intolerable from any National Socialist point of view. As if it were not terrible enough that he himself and his circle of devotees broke every single law of decency and modesty, still worse, this poison now began to spread in ever increasing circles. But worst of all was the fact that, out of a certain common predisposition, a sect gradually began to form in the SA which made up the nucleus of a conspiracy directed not only against the normal conceptions of a healthy Volk but against the security of the State as well. Reviews conducted in the month of May of the promotions granted in certain areas of the SA resulted in the terrible realization that men had been promoted to positions in the SA without any consideration to their accomplishments within the Movement and the SA for the sole reason that they belonged to the circle of these persons with this particular predisposition. Individual incidents which are well known to you, for instance the case of the Standartenführer Schmidt in Breslau, revealed a state of affairs which could only be regarded as intolerable. My order to intervene was followed in theory, but in fact, it was sabotaged. Three groups gradually crystallized from the leadership of the SA: a small group, the elements of which were held together by a common predisposition who would stop at nothing and who had blindly delivered themselves into the hands of Chief of Staff Röhm. In principle, these men were the SA leaders Ernst from Berlin, Heines in Silesia, Hayn in Saxony, and Heydebreck in Pomerania. In addition to these men, there was another group of SA leaders who did not inwardly belong to this circle but felt themselves obligated to obey Chief of Staff Röhm simply from a soldierly point of view. And these were faced by a third group of leaders who made no secret of their inner aversion and disapproval and, as a result, had in part been removed from positions of responsibility while others had been pushed aside and, in many respects, simply disregarded. At the fore of these SA leaders who were rejected because of their basic decency stood the present Chief of Staff, Lutze, as well as the leader of the SS, Himmler. Without informing me at all and, initially, without even the slightest suspicion on my part, Chief of Staff Röhm had established contact with General Schleicher using as intermediary a thoroughly corrupt swindler, a certain Herr von A., whom you all know. General Schleicher was the man who gave an external framework to Röhm’s inner desires. He was the one who upheld and defined in concrete terms the viewpoint that:
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Anonymous 09/06/2017 (Wed) 23:39:55 Id: 4ea6be [Preview] No. 55261 del
>>55260
1. the present German regime was insupportable; that
2. above all, power over the Armed Forces and all national associations was to be united in one hand; that
3. Chief of Staff Röhm was the only man who could be considered for this post; that
4. Herr von Papen would have to be removed, and he was willing to assume the position of Vice Chancellor; and that furthermore, other major changes would have to be made in the Reich cabinet. As always in such cases, the search for men to make up the new government began, under the condition that I was to be allowed to remain at my post-at least for the time being. The implementation of these proposals from General von Schleicher was bound to meet with my unconquerable resistance as early as item 2. It would never have been objectively or humanly possible for me to have given my consent to a personnel change in the Reich Ministry of Defense and to have appointed Chief of Staff Röhm to the vacant post. First of all, for objective reasons: For fourteen years, I have consistently upheld that the fighting organizations of the Party are political organizations which have nothing to do with the Army. In my eyes, it would constitute a disavowal of my view and my policies of fourteen years to appoint the leader of the SA to head the Army. In November 1923, I proposed appointing an officer to head the Army and not my SA leader at the time, Captain Göring. Secondly, it would have been humanly impossible for me to ever consent to this proposal on the part of General von Schleicher. When I became aware of these plans, my own view of the inner value of Chief of Staff Röhm was already such that I would all the more never have been able to accept him for this post before my own conscience and for the sake of the Army’s honor. However, above all, the supreme head of the Army is the Field Marshal and President of the Reich. As Chancellor, I gave him my oath. His person is inviolate for all of us. The pledge which I made to him to maintain the Army as an unpolitical instrument of the Reich is binding for me, due both to my innermost conviction and to the fact that I gave my word. However, it would also have been humanly impossible for me to have done such a thing to the Reich Minister of Defense. I myself and all of us are happy to be able to look upon him as a man of honor from head to toe. From the very depths of his heart, he has reconciled the Army with the revolutionaries of old and allied it with their present leadership of State. He has affirmed his most loyal devotion to that principle to which I will be devoted until my dying breath. There is only one bearer of arms in the State: the Wehrmacht. And only one body in which is vested the political will of the Volk: the National Socialist Party. Any thought of agreeing with General von Schleicher’s plans would, on my part, have constituted an act of disloyalty not only to the Field Marshal and the Minister of Defense, but also an act of disloyalty to the Army. For just as General von Blomberg is doing his duty as Minister of Defense in the National Socialist State in the most pronounced sense of the word, the other officers and soldiers are also doing the same. I cannot expect that each of them find his own position within our Movement; but none of them have abandoned their basic position of loyalty to the National Socialist State. Furthermore, without the most cogent reasons, I could not have those men removed who with me jointly made a vow on January 30 to save the Reich and the Volk. There are certain duties attached to loyalty, duties which we may not and must not breach. And I believe that, above all, the man who has led the nation to unity in his own name must under no circumstances commit an act of disloyalty, for doing so would make all external and internal confidence in good faith disappear.
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Anonymous 09/06/2017 (Wed) 23:40:33 Id: 4ea6be [Preview] No. 55262 del
>>55261
Due to the fact that Chief of Staff Röhm was himself unsure whether attempts in the direction mentioned might not well meet with resistance on my part, the first plan was designed to bring this development about by force. Extensive preparations were made.
1. The psychological groundwork for the outbreak of a second revolution was systematically laid. For this purpose, the SA propaganda offices spread a rumor-penetrating as far as the SA-alleging that the Reichswehr was planning to dissolve the SA, which was later supplemented by the claim that I had unfortunately been personally won over in support of this plan. A lie as pitiful as it is malicious!
2. The SA was now forced to forestall this attack and eliminate, in a second revolution, both the elements of Reaktion on the one hand and the resistance of the Party on the other, while entrusting the authority of the State to the leadership of the SA.
3. For this purpose, the SA was to make all necessary material preparations within the shortest time possible. By using pretexts-among other things, by falsely claiming that he intended to implement a social relief plan for the SA- Chief of Staff Röhm succeeded in raising twelve million marks for this purpose.
4. In order to be in a position to concentrate exclusively on delivering the most decisive blows, special terror groups were formed under the name of “Stabswachen” and sworn in for this sole purpose. While an old SA man had starved his way through an entire decade for the Movement, in this case paid troops were formed whose inner character and purpose cannot be more clearly revealed than in the truly horrible criminal records of the elements of which they are comprised, accompanied by the fact that the tried and true SA leaders and SA men were now thrust into the background to make room for politically untrained elements which were better fit for such actions. At certain Führertagungen and recreational outings, the SA leaders in question were brought together step by step and given individual treatment; in other words, while the members of the inner sect made systematic preparations for the action itself, the second large circle of SA leaders were given only general information to the effect that a second revolution was knocking at the door, that this revolution had the single aim of restoring to me my freedom of action; that hence the new and, this time, bloody uprising-‘The Night of the Long Knives,’ as it was gruesomely called-corresponded to my own aim. The necessity for action on the part of the SA was explained by drawing attention to my inability to make a decision; this situation could be remedied only by a fait accompli. Presumably, these false pretexts were used to assign Herr von Detten the task of making preparations for the action in foreign countries. General von Schleicher personally took care of part of this drama abroad, leaving the practical work to his messenger, General von Bredow. Gregor Strasser was brought in. In a final attempt early in June, I had Röhm summoned for a talk which went on for nearly five hours and lasted until midnight. I informed him that I had received the impression from countless rumors and innumerable assurances and statements from old and loyal party comrades and SA leaders that preparations were being made by unscrupulous elements for a national Bolshevist action which could only bring unutterable misfortune upon Germany. I further informed him that I had also heard rumors that there were plans to include the Army within the scope of this scheme. I assured Chief of Staff Röhm that the assertion that the SA was to be dissolved was a malicious lie, and that I could make no comment whatsoever on the lie that I intended to take action against the SA, but that I would personally take immediate steps to avert any attempt to allow chaos to arise in Germany, and that anyone who attacked the State would have to count me among his enemies from the very onset.
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Anonymous 09/06/2017 (Wed) 23:41:21 Id: 4ea6be [Preview] No. 55263 del
>>55262
I beseeched him for the last time to take a stand against this madness and use his authority to prevent a development which could only end in a catastrophe one way or another. I once more voiced my strongest objection to the growing number of unimaginable excesses and demanded that every trace of these elements be wiped out in the SA in order to avoid that the SA itself as well as millions of decent party comrades and hundreds of thousands of old fighters were robbed of their honor by isolated inferior subjects. The Chief of Staff left me with the assurance that a number of the rumors were untrue and others were exaggerated and, in other respects, he would do everything he could to set things right. The result of the conference was, however, that Chief of Staff Röhm, knowing that under no circumstances could he count on me in his planned undertaking, now proceeded to take steps toward my own elimination. For this purpose, a larger circle of SA leaders who had been initiated were told that I myself was basically in agreement with the planned undertaking but that I could not afford to become personally involved and wished to be placed under arrest for a period of 24 or 48 hours when the uprising broke out so as to be relieved, by virtue of the fait accompli, of the embarrassing incrimination which would otherwise result for me abroad. This explanation is conclusively illustrated by the fact that, as a precautionary measure, the man had already been hired in the meantime who was to carry out my elimination at a later date: Standartenführer Uhl, who confessed only a few hours before his death that he had been willing to carry out such an order. The initial plan for the upheaval was based upon the idea of granting leave to the SA. During this period and due to the lack of available forces, inexplicable riots were to break out along the lines of the conditions of August 1932 which would force me to summon the Chief of Staff, who alone would be in a position to restore order, and to entrust to him the executive authority. However, since it had become clear in the interim that under no circumstances could one count on such a willingness on my part, this plan was abandoned and direct action contemplated. Such action was to commence abruptly in Berlin with a raid on the government building and my arrest in order to allow other actions to follow in sequence, supposedly at my bidding. The conspirators proceeded on the assumption that orders given to the SA in my name would not only mobilize the SA throughout the Reich but also serve to bring about an automatic fragmentation of all other opposing forces within the State. Chief of Staff Röhm, Gruppenführer Ernst, Obergruppenführer Heines, Hayn and a number of others declared before witnesses that initially the bloodiest possible confrontation with their adversaries was to take place, lasting several days. The question as to the financial side of such a development was dismissed with a positively insane lack of concern and the comment that the bloody terror itself would serve to provide the requisite funds one way or another. I now must deal with only one more idea, namely whether or not every successful revolution constitutes its own justification. Chief of Staff Röhm and his elements explained the necessity of their revolution by citing the fact that this alone could secure the triumph of pure National Socialism. However, at this point I must make it clear for the present and for posterity that these men no longer had any right whatsoever to cite National Socialism as their Weltanschauung. Their lives had become as bad as the lives of those whom we overcame and relieved in the year 1933. The conduct of these men made it impossible for me to invite them to my home or to even once set foot in my Chief of Staff’s house in Berlin. It is hard to even fathom what would have become of Germany in the event that this sect had been victorious.
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Anonymous 09/06/2017 (Wed) 23:42:07 Id: 4ea6be [Preview] No. 55264 del
>>55263
The magnitude of the danger was documented all the more strongly by the observations which then entered Germany from abroad. English and French newspapers more and more frequently talked of a forthcoming upheaval in Germany, and increasing numbers of reports indicated that the conspirators had systematically impressed upon foreign countries the idea that the revolution of the true National Socialists was now imminent in Germany and that the existing regime was no longer capable of action. General von Bredow, who procured these connections as foreign agent for General von Schleicher, worked only in respect to the activities of those reactionary circles which-perhaps without having any direct connection with this conspiracy-allowed themselves to be exploited as a willing subterranean intelligence center for foreign powers. At the end of June, I was thus determined to put an end to this outrageous development, and to do it before the blood of tens of thousands of innocent persons would seal the catastrophe. Due to the fact that the danger and the tension which oppressed everyone had grown unbearable and certain bodies within the Party and the State had been compelled by virtue of their assigned duties to take defensive measures, the strange and sudden prolongation of service prior to the SA vacation leave aroused my suspicion, and thus I resolved that, on Saturday, June 30, I would dismiss the Chief of Staff from office, place him in custody for the time being, and arrest a number of SA leaders whose crimes had come to light. Because it was doubtful whether, in view of the threat of an escalation, Chief of Staff Röhm would have come to Berlin or anywhere else at all, I resolved to personally travel to Wiessee for the conference of SA leaders scheduled there. Relying upon my personal authority and upon my power of determination, which had never failed me in the hour of need, I planned to dismiss the Chief of Staff from his post at 12:00 noon, arrest those SA leaders principally to blame and, in an urgent appeal, call upon the others to return to their duties. In the course of June 29, I received such threatening news of the most recent preparations for the action that at midday I was forced to interrupt my tour of the labor camps in Westphalia in order to be available in case of emergency. At 1:00 in the morning I received two extremely urgent alarm bulletins from Berlin and Munich. Namely first of all, that an alert had been issued in Berlin for 4:00 in the afternoon, that the order had already been given for the requisition of trucks to transport what were actually the raiding formations and that this was already being carried out, and that the action was to begin promptly at the stroke of 5:00 as a surprise attack with the occupation of the government building. This was the reason why Gruppenführer Ernst had not traveled to Wiessee but remained in Berlinin order to conduct the action in person. Second of all, an alert had already been given to the SA in Munich for 9:00 in the evening. The SA formations would not be allowed to return home but were assigned to the alert barracks. That is mutiny! I am the commander of the SA and no one else! Under these circumstances, there was only one decision left for me to make. If there was any chance to avert the disaster, lightning action was called for. Only ruthless and bloody intervention might perhaps still have been capable of stifling the spread of the revolt. And then there could be no question of the fact that it would be better to destroy a hundred mutineers, plotters and conspirators (Meuterer, Verschwörer und Konspiratoren) than to allow ten thousand innocent SA men on the one hand and ten thousand equally innocent persons on the other to bleed to death.
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Anonymous 09/06/2017 (Wed) 23:43:02 Id: 4ea6be [Preview] No. 55265 del
>>55264
For if once the plans of that criminal Ernst were set in motion in Berlin, the consequences were unimaginable! How well the manipulations with my name had worked was evidenced in the distressing fact that these mutineers had, for instance, succeeded in securing four armored vehicles for their action from unsuspecting police officers in Berlin by citing my name, and that furthermore, even before then, the conspirators Heines and Hayn had made police officers in Saxony and Silesia uncertain by demanding that they decide between the SA and Hitler’s enemies in the coming confrontation. It finally became clear to me that only one man could and must stand up to the Chief of Staff. He had broken his vow of loyalty to me, and I alone had to call him to account for that! At 1:00 in the morning, I received the last alarm dispatches, and at 2:00 a.m. I flew to Munich. In the meantime, I had already instructed Minister-President Göring that, in the event of a purge action, he was immediately to take corresponding measures in Berlin and Prussia. He crushed the attack on the National Socialist State with an iron fist before it could develop. The fact that this action required lightning speed also meant that very few men were at my disposal in this decisive hour. Then, in the presence of Minister Goebbels and the new Chief of Staff, the action with which you are acquainted was carried out and brought to a close in Munich. Although I had been willing to be lenient only a few days before, in this hour there was no longer any room for such consideration. Mutinies are crushed only by the everlasting laws of iron. If anyone reproaches me and asks why we did not call upon the regular courts for sentencing, my only answer is this: in that hour, I was responsible for the fate of the German nation and was thus the Supreme Justiciar of the German Volk! Mutinous divisions have always been recalled to order by decimation. Only one State did not make use of its wartime legislation, and the result was the collapse of this State: Germany. I did not want to abandon the young Reich to the fate of the old. I gave the order to shoot those parties mainly responsible for this treason, and I also gave the order to burn out the tumors of our domestic poisoning and of the poisoning of foreign countries down to the raw flesh. And I also gave the order that if the mutineers made any attempt to resist arrest, they were at once to be brutally struck down by force (sofort mit der Waffe niederzumachen). The nation should know that no one can threaten its existence-which is guaranteed by inner law and order-and escape unpunished! And every person should know for all time that if he raises his hand to strike out at the State, certain death will be his lot. And every National Socialist should know that no rank and no position relieves him of his personal responsibility and, with it, his due punishment. I have prosecuted thousands of our former opponents on account of their corruption. I would have to reproach myself if I were now to tolerate the same phenomenon in our own ranks. No Volk and no leadership of State can be held responsible if creatures turn up such as those we have known in Germany in the likes of Kutisker etc., just as the French came to know Stavisky, and as we are witnessing them again today with the aim of sinning against a nation’s interests. However, any nation which does not find the strength to exterminate such pests makes itself guilty. When people confront me with the view that only a trial in court would have been capable of accurately weighing the measure of guilt and expiation, I must lodge a solemn protest. He who rises up against Germany commits treason. He who commits treason is to be punished not according to the scope and proportions of his deed, but rather according to his cast of mind as revealed therein. He who dares to instigate a mutiny, thereby violating the principles of good faith and sacred vows, can expect nothing other than that he himself will be the first victim.
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Anonymous 09/06/2017 (Wed) 23:43:43 Id: 4ea6be [Preview] No. 55266 del
>>55265
I do not intend to have the lesser culprits shot and to spare the major culprits. It is not my responsibility to ascertain whether and if so, which of these conspirators, agitators, nihilists and well-poisoners of German public opinion and, in a wider sense, of world opinion, too, has been dealt too hard a lot; rather, my duty is to make certain that Germany’s lot is bearable. A foreign journalist who is enjoying the right to hospitality has filed a protest on behalf of the wives and children of those shot and expects reprisal from among their ranks. I can give this man of honor only one answer: women and children have always been the innocent victims of criminal acts committed by men. I, too, have sympathy for them, but I believe that the suffering which has been inflicted upon them by the fault of these men is only a tiny fraction compared to the suffering which would perhaps have come upon tens of thousands of German women had this deed been successful. A foreign diplomat has explained that the meeting between Schleicher and Röhm was naturally of a quite harmless nature. I refuse to discuss this matter with anyone. The concept of what is harmless and what is not will never coincide in the political sector. However, when three traitors arrange and conduct a meeting in Germany with a foreign statesman which they themselves describe as “business,” conduct it privately by excluding their staff and keep it concealed from me by the strictest orders, I will have such men shot dead, even if it were true that, at this meeting which was kept so secret from me, they talked only of the weather, old coins and similar topics. The punishment for these crimes was a hard and severe one. Nineteen high-ranking SA leaders and 31 SA leaders and members were shot, as were three SS leaders who were accomplices to the plot. Thirteen SA leaders and civilians who resisted arrest sacrificed their lives in the process. Three other lives were ended by suicide. Five non-SA party comrades were shot for being accomplices. And last of all, three members of the SS were shot who were guilty of disgraceful abuse of prisoners in protective custody. In order to prevent the political passion and indignation from spreading to the lynch law in respect to other incriminated parties, once the danger had been removed and the revolt could be regarded as having been defeated, the strictest orders were issued on Sunday, July 1, to refrain from any further reprisals. Hence as of Sunday night, July 1, normal conditions have been restored. A number of acts of violence in no way connected with this action are being handed over to the regular courts for sentencing. As heavy as these sacrifices may be, they were not in vain if they may serve to bring about once and for all the conviction that every attempt to commit treason against the internal and external security of the State will be broken, without distinction of person. I am confident in my hope in this respect that, if Fate were to dismiss me from my post at any given hour, my successor would not act differently, and were he also made to vacate this post, that the third in line would exhibit no less determination in his willingness to uphold the security of the Volk and the nation. In view of the fact that, in the two weeks which now lie behind us, a part of the foreign press flooded the world with untrue and incorrect assertions and reports in the absence of any kind of objective and just reporting, I cannot accept the excuse that it was not possible to obtain any other news. In most cases, it would have required merely a short telephone call to the competent authorities in order to ascertain the groundlessness of most of these assertions. When, in particular, it is reported that members of the Reich cabinet were among the victims or conspirators, it would not have been difficult to establish that the contrary was the case.
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Anonymous 09/06/2017 (Wed) 23:44:13 Id: 4ea6be [Preview] No. 55267 del
>>55266
The assertion that Vice Chancellor von Papen, Minister Seldte or other gentlemen in the Reich cabinet had had any connection with the mutineers is proven wrong most conclusively by the fact that one of the primary goals of the mutineers included murdering these men. Similarly, all reports of an involvement on the part of any of the German princes or of their prosecution are pure fabrication. Finally, whereas an English paper has reported in the last few days that I had now had a nervous breakdown, I must note that in this case, too, a short inquiry would have sufficed to learn the truth immediately. I can only assure these anxious reporters that I have never suffered a nervous breakdown, neither in the War nor after the War, but this time I did suffer from the worst breakdown of the good faith which I had placed in a man whom I had once protected to the utmost, a man for whom I had veritably sacrificed myself. However, at this point I must also confess that my confidence in the Movement-and particularly in the SS-has never wavered. And now my confidence in my SA has been restored to me as well. Three times did the SA have the misfortune of having leaders-the last time, even a Chief of Staff-to whom they believed they owed obedience and who deceived them, men in whom I placed my trust and who betrayed me. However, I have also had three opportunities to witness how, in that moment in which a deed revealed itself to be treason, the traitor was abandoned, left alone and shunned by all. But the behavior of this small group of leaders was just as disloyal as these two National Socialist organizations were loyal to me in the decisive hour. The SS, aching inside, did its highest duty in these days, but no less decent was the behavior of the millions of upright SA men and SA leaders who, standing outside the circle of treason, did not waver for a second in their concept of duty. This gives me the conviction that the newly appointed Chief of Staff of the SA, to whom I am bound by the ties of the old fighting community, will finally succeed in rejuvenating the organizations according to my guidelines and in making of them an even stronger part of the Movement. For never will I consent to the destruction of something which is not only inseparably bound up for all time with the battles and the victory of the National Socialist Movement, but which also deserves immeasurable credit for its contribution to the formation of the new Reich. The SA has upheld its inner loyalty to me in these days which have been so difficult for both it and myself. It has thus proven for the third time that it is mine, just as I am willing to prove at any time that I belong to my SA men. Within the space of a few weeks, the Brown Shirt will once again dominate German streets and clearly demonstrate to everyone that the life of National Socialist Germany has become all the stronger for having overcome a difficult crisis. When, in March of last year, our young revolution swept through Germany, it was my foremost endeavor to shed as little blood as possible.
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Anonymous 09/06/2017 (Wed) 23:45:06 Id: 4ea6be [Preview] No. 55268 del
>>55267
For the new State, I offered a general amnesty to millions of my former opponents on behalf of the National Socialist Party; millions of them have since joined our ranks and are faithfully working with us to rebuild the Reich. I had hoped that it would not be necessary to ever again defend this State with weapons in our hands. But now that Fate has nonetheless put us to the test, all of us wish to pledge to hold fast even more fanatically to that which was first won with so much of our best men’s blood and today had to be defended once more with the blood of German Volksgenossen. Just as, one and a half years ago, I offered reconciliation to our opponents of that time, I would also like to make a bid of forgiveness from now on to all of those who shared the blame for this act of madness. May they all reflect and, in memory of this sad crisis of our recent German history, devote their entire strength to atoning for it. May they now more clearly than before recognize the great task which Fate has assigned to us and which cannot be accomplished by civil war and chaos; may they all feel responsible for the most valuable possession there can be for the German Volk: inner order and peace both within and without! I am likewise willing to assume the responsibility, as history be my witness, for the 24 hours of the most bitter decisions of my life, in which Fate once more taught me to anxiously cling fast with my every thought to the most precious thing we have been given in this world: the German Volk and the German Reich! Much to my own regret, I was forced to destroy this man and his following. [-] What kind of life would one have in this Volk had the precept of utmost brutal loyalty [to the Army] not been brought to bear here? Where would we be today? Back then, perhaps we might have been able to take a different path. What would we have today? I am not claiming too much when I speak of it [the militia army] as a completely worthless bunch, in military terms. I do not believe in the so-called levée en masse. I do not believe that it is possible to create soldiers only by mobilizing what might be called enthusiasm.
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Anonymous 09/07/2017 (Thu) 01:36:45 Id: 0d5c9c [Preview] No. 55271 del
>>55268
Thank you. You are a gentleman and a scholar.


Anonymous 09/07/2017 (Thu) 02:12:14 Id: 88e217 [Preview] No. 55272 del
>>55239
The ancient metholodogy I'm using is neither inductive nor deductive but abductive/retroductive. Mankind as a whole is ignorant about the existence of said retrodictive method and confuses it with both the inductive and deductive method when it's neither, it is its own method practiced by Egyptians, Indians and Greeks, of which the Greeks that used this lost method were the Pythagoreans that had discovered the secrets of incommensurability and the "grand unified field theory" through objective negation and subjective synthesis, it is neither objective negation or subjective synthesis, it's both yet neither individually. Many people the primer, the idiosyncratic language and vocabulary of what Monism as well as other religions and metaphysical traditions entails. The "alternative" is actually the mainstream lie based on either Aristotelian deduction or Baconian induction. Socrates didn't really teach the inductive method, blame the foggy lens of most academician parrots that don't understand what was not already taught by others. There is no real mystery, only primordial ignorance and misinterpretation through ignorance. It's unfortunate how humanity as a whole is so naturally stupid that it cannot understand something so divinely simplex. I've already simply explained it, most of you however, failed to understand it ironically because you have failed to come to the same understanding subjectively to the same noetic idea and so only see meaningless objective words yet I've been saying for all this time that the truth can never be objectively understood, for any objective truth requires faith, but the truth explains itself and it can only do that if it's incommensurate. If you want to read something else, here's the same links I've shared multiple times here: h ttps://mega.nz/!NcxTTDaJ!7qd00XrA5ajfdHBY2G5m-zniSSqjW9a-j-iK_vlSLcA h ttps://mega.nz!oIhzGAzY!bvP3nuRUvV3MZJ7o3DaiGyHLSHC3_tbLqm4pDDbiGDQ h ttps://archive.org/details/IndefiniteDyadPlotinusMetaphysicsMysticism h ttps://archive.org/details/PythagorasPlatoAndTheGoldenRatio Just know that the shorter it is, there harder it is to understand for it is more condensed of which requires your limited brain to digest it and also requires you to use a good dictionary, learn grammar, and unlearn the misuse of grammar. If you do however, "get it", the shorter ones are better than the longer ones because it gets to the point faster. (cont.)


Anonymous 09/07/2017 (Thu) 02:13:16 Id: 88e217 [Preview] No. 55273 del
This is the last time I'll talk about religion and metaphysics ITT, but if I really haven't made myself clear, most of you have no proper understanding of what the hell people like Tutankhamun (especially those that taught him), Hermes Trismegistus, Gotama, Pythagoras, Zeno of Elea, Socrates, Plato, Iamblichus, Plotinus, etc. were really on about. I am no different than others in being slow to understand these matters, but if there's anyone that can see past their own walls of illusion out there, only those would sympathize with my struggle to convey these complicated ideas. I don't seek verification of the truth through others, I've already achieved henosis. I'm only sharing what I've found and if you disagree, it's okay. Life is short, not everyone seeks the truth, even those that think that they do actually seeks themselves but they have failed to seek their true self and instead seek after an illusion that they perpetuate. Though there is no such thing as karma and of course there's no objective way of knowing what happens after death, everyone is their own cause to the existential disease, although everyone isn't responsible for physical suffering itself. The metaphysical diagnosis is the step towards the spiritual cure of the existential disease and is never the cure to all physical suffering itself. Of course it is wrong for anyone to invoke suffering onto others, but it is even more wrong to withhold the cure to the disease that keeps them in perpetual suffering, hence, why I'm even here to tell you what I've come to know. There's no such thing as free will nor predestination, but instead, there's transcendence. Take it or leave it, it never really was a decision that I imposed on anyone, but is what you make subjectively in every waking moment thinking that you are bound to the wall to see the stupid puppet shows that never ends when you're actually behind that wall and can leave by turning away from your ignorance and become the illumination in rejecting the shadows, and being one with the source of the illumination of that light, which you need to let go what what is not, and merge which what you really are.


Anonymous 09/07/2017 (Thu) 10:38:09 Id: a18634 [Preview] No. 55295 del
Anyways, let's get back to other conspiracies concerning historical narratives. There was an old thread in old end/pol/ that mentioned a theory that some dates used an i instead of a 1 so dates that looked like i743 for example were taken to be 1743 and that we were robbed of one thousand years by sheer misinterpretation of how to read dates because the i stands for ' "i"n the year of the Lord '. I wonder what happened to that anon, he seemed like a pretty cool guy and doesn’t afraid of anything.


Anonymous 09/07/2017 (Thu) 10:47:56 Id: a18634 [Preview] No. 55296 del
>>55295
If I recall correctly, he also thought that Tokugawa Ieyasu of all people were "white".

I don't know as to were he got his info, but it sure was interesting. That reminds me, what does /pol/ think about "pseudo archaeology"? I think most of it is shit, a quarter of it is probable, and an eight of it is actually legit info that were rejected by (((academic narratives))), but there's some room for conjecture concerning natural history.


Anonymous 09/07/2017 (Thu) 16:47:07 Id: 19c4a6 [Preview] No. 55311 del
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>>55272
> The ancient metholodogy I'm using is neither inductive nor deductive but abductive/retroductive. Mankind as a whole is ignorant about the existence of said retrodictive method and confuses it with both the inductive and deductive method when it's neither, it is its own method practiced by Egyptians, Indians and Greeks, of which the Greeks that used this lost method were the Pythagoreans that had discovered the secrets of incommensurability and the "grand unified field theory" through objective negation and subjective synthesis, it is neither objective negation or subjective synthesis, it's both yet neither individually.


Anonymous 09/09/2017 (Sat) 00:21:15 Id: c77f8d [Preview] No. 55352 del
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Why are Irish people so good looking? Serious question.


Anonymous 09/09/2017 (Sat) 11:23:57 Id: cbc7c5 [Preview] No. 55353 del
>>55273
More word salad. The difference between atheists and Christians/other theists is that Christians write vague paragraphs because they think being vague means sounding very deep, even though they say nothing; while atheists try to remove all of the noise and practically write in bullet points so you can't be misled. This is also the mark of a clear thinker because it's more systemized approach to speech.

Btw I can tell you're a decade younger than me because of your hard-on for the empty pretend-knowledge of "transcendence." That and too much Plato and not enough other philosophers. You can't just drop Junior College Philosophy 100 Plato's cave allusions on a political board without making a fresh point, think you know more than your opponents with different views, and act entitled to higher morality just because of it.

We all took the same class for our Bachelors, but the ones who kept taking similar classes while seeking to hear opposing views inevitably become atheists.


Anonymous 09/09/2017 (Sat) 13:31:49 Id: c86c03 [Preview] No. 55354 del
>>55353
>posts a shitty pic
>fails to properly define atheism
>appeals to academic authority, age, and identity politics "as an" atheist
>rips one word out of context then pretends that it wasn't explained in the context
>ID cbc7c5
Let's see what shit he've said with that IP:
>>54746
>phoneposting, posted a mobile kikepedia link to supposedly disprove Hitler by calling him a psycho
>>54864
>believes in Al Gore's "hockey stick" schtick
>>54990
>posts generic Japanese cartoon bitch while promoting liberal & atheistic bullshit
>>55008
>thinks that success in life has direct correlation with IQ as well as wisdom and posts a half naked mouse girl furry also from an artist that draws cartoon porn thinking that people here won't notice your weeaboo fetish enabling also behind Tor or with other IP addresses
>>55107
>being a pro Hillary cuck
>thinking that voting matters
If anything, the only one guilty of argumentum ad nauseum is (((you))). You're a phoneposting millennial blue pilled atheistic liberal weeaboo shill/goy/kike that masturbates to Japanese style cartoons and also have a mild case of multiple personality disorder because you have multiple shitposting profiles, one of them pretending to be an oldfag IRL in an anonymous imageboard where age has no direct correlation with the red pill. Guess what? So far, you fit the profile of the gay nigger kike enabling Tor/proxy spammer, and so you probably made more shitty posts in this very thread with multiple IP addresses as well in order to pretend to create a false narrative by numbers instead of using it to bypass censorship firewalls or for actual privacy related purposes.


Anonymous 09/09/2017 (Sat) 15:52:42 Id: 9da2fd [Preview] No. 55355 del
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>>55353
>while seeking to hear opposing views inevitably become atheists.
And then they inevitably became Richard Dawkins and invented the most superior clear thinking of meme magic. Now its only a matter of days that Christian Dark Age fails to prevent us form inventing trans-dimensional travel.


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>>55355
>transdimensional travel
This tbh. I know one of you is more intelligent than the rest of us. I'm talking about the guy who talks like he's a scientist but we don't know what he's saying. Probably makes him feel like everyone is a fool. Help us out man. Einstein Rosen and Podolsky may have been plagiarizing kikes but we need that bridge. This world is so fucked! Use your maths skills to solve the einstein rosen podolsky bridge because we need an alternate earth. Roy Kerr came up with some way to avoid the weight force of a black hole. You could check him out. Imagine alternate earths where the vikings conquered every continent or Germany won ww2. There's infinite possibilities of parallel universes. Help us become Sliders.


Anonymous 09/09/2017 (Sat) 18:39:28 Id: 4ea6be [Preview] No. 55364 del
>>55356
Other than the nostalgia, this post is pretty dumb. You know what? Throw me on a world where every woman's fit and naked, and the women never developed the ability to speak; because we live in the alternate reality where unqualified cunts are put in charge just because they're dykes. I could do with a world where jews where actually gassed to the tune of 6 million too. There wouldn't have been so many "holocaust survivors".

ps- Those jews made up those theories. They lie as naturally as they breathe.
Edited last time by AdolfHitler on 09/09/2017 (Sat) 19:03:07.


Anonymous 09/09/2017 (Sat) 21:46:41 Id: c0e4ad [Preview] No. 55373 del
>>55172
h ttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bogomilism

Just one of examples, and a good lead to follow. Bosnia might have had such a bloody history for an entirely different reason than commonly thought. Goths had their own thing much before that. (Goths are also one of key elements for recovering the truth) And yes, it survived while being hidden in plain sight as well (encoded in "Church" writings, architecture and other works, preached in secret by various knightly orders, etc.), not to mention the "pagan" remnants of old European civilizations that are still part of their folklore that kikes are trying to destroy (not without a reason).

As for surviving groups, I'd say the ones that moved to S. America had the highest freedom of action at the time, but they also went to other places. And some remained behind enemy lines in Europe. The Non-Aligned movement was quite "suspicious" in that regard, especially if we look at what the kikes did to countries that were influential there (Yugoslavia, Libya, etc.) Even if most of those countries were nonwhite, they could have been a good refuge for certain groups, as long as they managed to resist the two sides of the Zionist coin (USSR and Allies). And the group was all about improving living standards in those places so mud people have no economic reason for invading Europe and other white countries as cannon fodder of the kikes.

>However, all of those keepers of the Old Ways appear to be highly concealed.

They are quite present actually. There has been a hidden hand guiding me for quite a while. But then again, I knew some things since early childhood so it could as well be myself.

>It'd be great if we could get one of them to fund a fucking imageboard
/pol/ at it's height of intellectualism might have been "visited" by them, before kikes went hellbent on shutting it down. I think it's a very good example of the process that most secret societies and groups like Freemasons went through. But there is also the opposite of such process, as seen with the Templars.

>I wouldn't say that this all goes way beyond the Jews
Most Jews are barely more conscious than animals regardless of their "intelligence" . They were bred for their purpose by something very intelligent, and very malevolent. But this issue is a very complex one and needs another thread to explain properly.


Anonymous 09/09/2017 (Sat) 22:26:11 Id: c0e4ad [Preview] No. 55374 del
>>55174
What is "true Christianity" according to you? I am genuinely interested.
>like claiming a non corporeal spirit can manifest and unmanifest whenever it wants to which violates both metaphysics and physics.
Actually, it's hypothetically possible (albeit extremely unlikely) that any force movement, under specific conditions, can become complex enough to produce consciousness. "Corporeal" is only one way (out of many) for it to manifest. Unless by corporeal you mean any deterministic movement that originated within the physical universe, but that's debatable too. I don't plan to debunk Empiricism (a quintessentially Anglo-kike natural theory) in this thread though.

>If you don't die for the truth, your life was not worth living to begin with.
Something is telling me that you are not suffering even a slightest discomfort for it, let alone dying for it. I'd rather survive for the truth so it can be spread in the world of lies.

>Wrong, Jesus promoted pacifism.
His followers certainly didn't. Christianity was mostly spread with fire and sword.
>The first Jewish-Roman revolts are from the Gnostic Pharisee
According to sources that were anything but neutral on the matter
>since Islam was a creation funded by the Vatican
Quite a bold claim, but I'll watch that video
>Hellenic rationalism
Which is perfectly compatible with most Gnostic teachings. Of course, rationalism has evolved much further later.
>The problem is that you had assumed that Jews "ALWAYS" existed.
I'm referring to certain period, but if we observe Jews as a civilizational phenomenon rather than an ethno-religious group, we could say that proto-"Jews" have existed as long as the humanity itself. You have "Jew" - the archetype (think of it as a blueprint), and Jews as a nation created by that blueprint. They are not the first, and they will not be the last.


Anonymous 09/09/2017 (Sat) 23:13:29 Id: c0e4ad [Preview] No. 55375 del
>>55178
>Those that do do it correctly don't believe in transubstantiation and so aren't "Mithraic"
Which ones do it correctly then, and what is the correct way to do it?
>The Mithraic cult's initiations are not what the Pythagoreans had done, they're really incompatible.
How are they incompatible? Of course, they take a different approach (Pythagoras was more of a scholar, similar to a modern university professor while Mithraism is a coded religion) Yes, they have many differences, but also many compatible ideas. It's not black and white.
>while most of the Israelites (the twelve tribes/patriarchs of Israel/Jacob) were part Isaac, part Midianite, part Canaanite.
Brits are part Celtic despite genociding them and settling their lands
>Also, Kenites are not Canaanites
Mind explaining this?
>anything is allowed if you're a Rabbi
Most Rabbis denounce Kabbalah as heretical. Hah, Kabba - Alah, Kaaba Allah.
>>55181
Let me guess, you are a dialectical monist and a Deist?
>The original Templars DIED OUT before there was a Jesuit order.
So they were hardly the founders then?
>The later Templars that fled persecution sought refuge under the Kingdom of Aragon
Maybe there is a connection between them and the persecution of Jews in Spain...
>Did you ever seen someone use "ontotheology" before outside of endchan?
Indeed not.
>Monarchs own their own junk
And are free to relocate it to some other country, should the circumstances compel them.
>while banks don't deal with protecting stuff like that.
They could if you paid them enough. But yes, it would have zero value for them
>Is your body "you", or is it a vessel that you control
I am a dimensionless point outside of space and time. But without differentiation, I could as well not exist, as there would be nothing to separate "me" from infinite other blank-state points, so we could all be just one point. Complete equality, no?


Anonymous 09/09/2017 (Sat) 23:49:46 Id: c0e4ad [Preview] No. 55376 del
>>55187
>Now why would the source of all subjects (therefore, all pure subjects are an extension of one) want to manifest itself in corruptible existential life? It can't be, that's what.
Could the same be possible the other way around? Something that's entirely a product of the "flesh" (matter) trying to become the spirit, or at least trying to capture the spirit in the similar manner that spirit controls the matter? If we go by the hypothesis that the two are completely different states of being that cannot be reconciled by any means.

That would give us some very Gnostic ideas ...

>Pythagoreanism didn't influence Mithraism
Maybe it's the other way around? Or maybe Mithraism has evolved a bit later.

>any object that has animation is moved by the subject behind the object
What if some subjects are so powerful that they are essentially gods? If the whole is God, then why cannot parts of the whole become like God? It's a holographic principle essentially. If you are a part of God, no matter how small, you can eventually replace the rest. As above, so below. You can "return to God" or you can become one by replacing the lost bits that are a memory lost long ago, but the one that can eventually be remembered because it's a part of your essence. By walking the path of the left hand facing swastika.


Anonymous 09/10/2017 (Sun) 00:35:06 Id: c0e4ad [Preview] No. 55377 del
>>55214
>Waves don't actually move, that's an illusion.
I'm amazed that someone else has this thought too. Would you say that "I" is the only thing that actually moves within the super-imposed mathematical framewok where everything possible already exists, simultaneously, and that the subject is the thing actually defining the objective, however as there are potentially infinite subjects, no solipsistic existence is actually possible?
>1&2+3=5
1&2&3=3 ?

Just out of curiosity, what do you think about Euler's number?

>>55227
Don't bully him, he is behaving in this thread.

>>55255
Couldn't you just post a pastebin link instead of cluttering the thread with it?

>>55353
Most atheists are too dumb to extrapolate, they are essentially existential nihilists.

>>55364
Does multiple universes theory actually prove the Holocaust to have really happened?


Anonymous 09/10/2017 (Sun) 00:45:59 Id: 4ea6be [Preview] No. 55378 del
>>55377
>Couldn't you just post a pastebin link instead of cluttering the thread with it?
I didn't think of it this time. I will next time.

>Does multiple universes theory actually prove the Holocaust to have really happened?
Where, in some other universe? The concept was invented. It's imaginary until someone proves to me otherwise. Definitely not this universe. I don't think pastebin accepts images, and you'd consider everything I've got on that to be clutter. It's a lot. Edit: Shit, this site keeps logging me out.
Edited last time by AdolfHitler on 09/10/2017 (Sun) 00:50:00.


Anonymous 09/10/2017 (Sun) 01:05:31 Id: 88e217 [Preview] No. 55379 del
>>55364
>ps- Those jews made up those theories. They lie as naturally as they breathe.
Damn straight it is, time is an illusion while movement through space in "time" cannot be compensated the farther out time is from its source because it needs more energy to move time up to the outer reaches of the very concept of space itself. What do I mean? Time is unlimit, beginningless, but ultimately is not linear while from the source of where energy is converted into time, there is no time. If there's ever a "flow" in time, you can only speed things up towards the future but never come back to the past. If there's an universal time clock, it can't record time, it only measures its flow of energy that flows back into itself, like a hourglass where the sand from the bottom goes back into the top of the hourglass while there's no time within the center of that hourglass. "Black holes" ironically brings fourth matter and is at the center of all spiral galaxies while galaxies that don't have black holes end up forming them naturally through the loss of counterspatial inertia and acceleration that decelerates into spatial force and motion, of which is a gradual, reciprocal loss of the black hole's super coherent mass that left the physical plane that escapes the threshold of the anti-field of counterspatial inertia and acceleration towards the counterspatial inertial "point" although it's less than a point because it has no cartesian point in space, it's counterspace, it goes into itself, it's implosion. A black hole is merely an omnidirectional vortex into counterspace, or you could say negative space, zero point energy, aether, it doesn't really matter, but the idea behind those words do. Planets and solar systems are formed within the inertia plane of the magnetic force that escapes the black hole, that's why mature galaxies are disk shaped, there's no magnetic field in the center plane of a magnet. Matter is accelerated towards that inertia plane of the galaxies and so technically, most planets are already inside the middle of a super massive magnetic field, and there's no field emanation from the source of that field itself. However, the field is incommensurate and so a fractal form of the same energy can be made within the inertia plane which is why planets and such can still be formed within it, and is also why even in the micro doesn't interfere with the macro because they all share the same field, it's just that the macro only interferes with other macro sized things while the micro only interferes with other micro sized things, and the vast fractal emptiness between them is proportunate to each other, but of course there's a threshold limit to how micro something is which is planck's constant, and if matter gets too big it either explodes like those giant suns, or they implode into itself and loses its cartesian footprint altogether. The universe however, is 4D (2Dx2D, like two circles going around each other) and is ultimately the same field as magnetism of which all magnetism is magnitude, gives existential definition to anything seen in the physical. The source of the universe itself is counterspatial, it's the inverse transeucledian geometry of the torus, which is the hyperboloid, the hourglass shape that's within the center of all toroidal geometry, but it is 5D (2Dx3D, it's hard to visualize, perhaps see these videos for a crude demonstration of why it moves in one more direction than a toroid h ttps://w ww.youtube.com/watch?v=4R_pjxsnvjo h ttps://w ww.youtube.com/watch?v=PdoZXEQLk8s ) yet 5D itself comes from 0D.


Anonymous 09/10/2017 (Sun) 01:56:12 Id: 88e217 [Preview] No. 55380 del
>>55374
>What is "true Christianity" according to you?
There is no such thing as true Christianity because Christianity is ignorant of why it's false. There is "pure Christianity" and it is from a rejection of scholasticism and a return to its roots as defined by the Christian bible of which there's only 66 of them since the other stuff Catholics as well as Jews had added and formed contradictions within the narrative of the bible itself and so are consequently deemed "uninspired". It's essentially existential Christianity (read up some basics about Soren Kierkegaard h ttp://sorenkierkegaard.org/ h ttp://hccentral.com/eller2/index.html ) with a dash of Christian(ized) Apophatic Theology, but it only accepts a church at a local level and so is decentralized, and whatever doctrines formed has to be "exegetical" (look it up, it takes a long time to explain exegesis and eisegesis) and compared with scripture and scripture with scripture to form the concept of what the core idea behind the words means of which becomes doctrines when spoken to others. It is anti scholasticism, anti ontotheology, anti pagan traditional mysticism, anti syncretism. Anything true from Christianity is not found in Christianity alone. Full blown Christian Apophatic Theology leads to Apophatic Theology and Ontotheology of which both are inherently Monistic, so there's no actual Christians that properly use Apophatic Theology and Ontotheology.
>corporeal
corpus, body
>non corporeal spirit
non embodied spirit, conscious without physicality
>corporeal spirit
this depending on the context the definition changes but a corporeal spirit in this context is an embodied spirit, of which is actually an illusion of the psyche manipulating the psyche tou pantos, of which the psyche/conscious is the extension of the Nous while the psyche tou pantos is the attributional side of the Nous of which there's only one Nous, so there's only one universe, the Nous is unlimit/limitless yet Kaos/psyche tou pantos is outside of the Nous limiting Nous to its creation while being unlimit. The psyche tou pantos has no beginning just as the Nous, yet there's an illusion of time within Kaos through the embodied consciousness of living sentient beings. (cont.)


Anonymous 09/10/2017 (Sun) 02:14:59 Id: 88e217 [Preview] No. 55381 del
>>55374
>deterministic
Just because there's one divine principle doesn't mean that the Monad has gnosis, it knows nothing, hence, primordial ignorance. When the Monad divided itself into 1 and 1, the unmanifest power of the Monad came in contact with itself and so became the Nous which is the result of primordial ignorance, which is kind of hard to grasp, since this means the Nous knows itself (the Monad) and so knows its own power, yet because of this, the Nous desires to create and "ex"perience things, and to know the extent of the unmanifest power by manifesting power outside of itself which is metaphysical impotential, loss of inertia and acceleration, which leads to physical potential/power/energy/magnitude/motion of which matter is merely motion that goes around itself, so if matter really "rests", it ceases to exist, releases its physical power and returns to its unmanifest potential state, inertia. Free will and determinism are illusions, but that doesn't mean there's no existential scenarios pushed by others that makes you do things by physical force in the threat of some physical punishment, neither does it mean that a fair legal system can't be formed. Having to choose is in between ignorance and understanding. Morals has no bearing on metaphysical understanding, you can be wise yet don't care about existential free will or existential determinism, for both are from the lack of understanding. Being compelled to "do the right thing" is different from being compelled to understand the nature of everything. If you see the light, you then understand what you should do and what you shouldn't do, you don't see the shadow of knowledge, but knowledge in light of wisdom to use that knowledge for its intended purpose to draw people towards the good, but whatever you do, whatever happens to you, if you truly are enlightened subjectively, no objective consequences would rob you of the subjective synthesis back into the Nous. (cont.)


Anonymous 09/10/2017 (Sun) 02:15:18 Id: 88e217 [Preview] No. 55382 del
>>55374
>Something is telling me that you are not suffering even a slightest discomfort for it, let alone dying for it.
My life is a living hell because I know that objective life itself is a living hell of antinomies, cycles and stupid people that abuse antinomies and cycles to create more antinomies and cycles (AKA: drama). Everybody still gotta work, pay stupid taxes, eat food, shit food, use shit as fertilizer to make more food to eat while your body is made out of food-shit particles of which stupid people think that food-shit particles defines who they are, it's just seeing everything as it really is in light of wisdom of the shadows of ignorance of which those that don't acheive henosis will come back again puppeting a heap of food-shit particles but with microplastics and fibers added to that mix, making the food-shit part of your body in even more agony. Existential suffering perpetuates even if you're cured of existential disease (AKA: subjective negation/nihilism, objective synthesis/materialism, atheos, agnosis, creationism, etc.). There's nothing comforting about the truth, objectively speaking.

>His followers certainly didn't. Christianity was mostly spread with fire and sword.
The first two centuries, Christians were persecuted, but only in the 3rd century they've gained enough political power through Constantine as it became a state religion, while they murdred Christians that were against Catholicism.

>According to sources that were anything but neutral on the matter
(((Philo of Alexandria))) was a full blown gnostic Jew that rejected the divinity of Jesus while he was the one that brought forth the concept of the whole Jewish race to be their own Messiah since they thought that they were no different than Jesus.

>Which is perfectly compatible with most Gnostic teachings
But Gnostic teachings aren't compatible with Hellenic rationalism, m8.

>proto-Jews
It's quite pathetic how anti-Jewish people end up using identity politics to justify a total hatred of a group of people that isn't the same as you are. Primordial racism is about the fear of pathogens spreading to your people because someone came in contact with foreigners. Any foreigner is a "proto-Jew".


Anonymous 09/10/2017 (Sun) 02:44:44 Id: 88e217 [Preview] No. 55383 del
>>55375
>Which ones do it correctly then, and what is the correct way to do it?
Mithraism has its own seven grade/mystery initiation system (see: h ttp://w ww.reformation.org/seven-mysteries-of-mithras.html ) while "pure" Christianity does it in historical recital, not as "sacraments" (read: h ttp://hccentral.com/eller9/index.html in its entirety or just take my word for it). The sacramental system is not Christianity.
>How are they incompatible?
Pythagoreans merely studied the Babylonian/Chaldean astronomy to come to certain numerical understanding of the celestial cycles, so Pythagoreans aren't really interested in the astrological aspect, and so they also don't literally worship stars nor follow pantheism. Monistic panentheism is not pantheism, nor is it henotheism as in the worship of a single god while not denying the existence or possible existence of other deities. Pythagoreans don't believe in anthropomorphic gods or goddesses, they only borrow some of their names to convey a monistic concept, and not actually literally believe and worship those names of gods the way pagans did, while deification = enlightenment = understanding the grand unified field theory, of which they are dead men walking, they won't come back here in another body anymore, they've broken the cycle of reanimation, becoming and becoming. Indian monism and even original Buddhism also held the same metaphysics as the Greek monists, but Greek monism had succeeded in explaining certain nuances that even original Buddhism had failed to explain.
>Brits are part Celtic despite genociding them and settling their lands
Irrelevant.
>Mind explaining this?
It's the bullshit kenite hypothesis, it's a hypothesis because it's never really proven to be true. Look up kenite hypothesis.
>Most Rabbis denounce Kabbalah as heretical.
[citation_needed]
Kabbalah literally means "to receive". The Zohar is the Kabbalah. h ttp://w ww.jewfaq.org/kabbalah.htm
>deist
Many had failed to define Deism in its historical context, so I don't think you know what you mean by Deism. Define it first, then I'll tell you, but I'll tell you that I'm not a Deist in its historical context.
>So they were hardly the founders then?
let me fix that:
>So they (the original Templars that weren't exposed to mystic cults that had died out but their spiritual successors that were exposed to mystic cults lived on and survived persecution) were hardly the founders then?
It depends on at what point in history are we talking about, Templars existed for 200 years at least before hiding behind other religious or royal orders.
>Maybe there is a connection between them and the persecution of Jews in Spain...
The Jesuit Order had Marrano Jews (crypto Jews) and persecuted Templar scions. Ignatius de Loyola personally visited Andrea Gritti because they were funded by the Venetian Doge.


Anonymous 09/10/2017 (Sun) 03:11:06 Id: 88e217 [Preview] No. 55384 del
>>55375
>I am a dimensionless point outside of space and time. But without differentiation, I could as well not exist, as there would be nothing to separate "me" from infinite other blank-state points, so we could all be just one point. Complete equality, no?
Although a dimensionless point is a pointless point, a concept that doesn't have a cartesian point, no locus, no area, no volume, etc., The "am" in I am implies manifestation as well as objectively identifying with a subjective entity objectively, so objectifying a subject. There's no infinite "blank-state points", there's only one "zero point" of unmanifest energy. Just because a field modality is incommensurate doesn't mean that all emanations are "equal" in the objective sense, retarded babies are objectively different than old people, but they're both extensions of the true subject of the Nous and the Monad which what the Monad does is the Nous and so ultimately, there is recognition of the source of all that is explained by "itself" without needing any externalized explanation for its own essence, but essence doesn't have to be manifested. The essense of the subject everywhere yet no-where as in not bound to a location.

>>55376
Power itself developed a preconscious subject/Nous that recognizes itself as power itself, of which its attributes formed Kaos and of which the Nous' extension formed psyche/conscious. The psyche is 1&1 but Kaos/psyche tou pantos is 2. Psyche + Kaos/Psyche tou pantos = metaphysics/noetic forms, shadows/illusions, physics/reflection of psyche tou pantos. All comes from one although the physical plane that we experience is an illusion from what has no physical footprint. There's no as below so above, the below is not subjectively real. Synthesis of the objective with the subject is the end result of primordial ignorance, and those that continue to believe in it continue to repossess a new body in the same shitty universe and there's no real guarantee that you'll come back a human.
>Maybe it's the other way around? Or maybe Mithraism has evolved a bit later.
Only some data from Chaldeans were used to form a divine meaning behind phenomenon, hence, Pythagoreans had their own "theology of numbers"/Arithmos that is not Mithraism at all. Pythagoreans weren't really interested in music as well, they were however interested in do, do, re, mi, so, do (1 1 2 3 5 8) of where 8 becomes a new "do" and a new 1 in a higher scale, of which the totality of the harmonic is formed out of one string in specific ratios. This is why it's wrong to think of Pythagoreans as Astrotheologists.


Anonymous 09/10/2017 (Sun) 03:33:02 Id: 88e217 [Preview] No. 55385 del
>>55376
A hologram cannot change its own holographic constituence "holographically"/physically. The subject can change their perception of reality, but reality is the perception of the Nous of which without the Nous, there won't be you, nor the universe for you to play around with in your ignorance of your true self, of which since the Nous is the true self, there would only be unmanifest power and no emanation. Emanation itself is an illusion, yet it affects other illusions. Emanations affects other like emanation, but it can't affect the source of its own emanation. As below so above is not as above so below. There's no objective synthesis to acheive subjective synthesis, it's impossible. Subjective synthesis comes after objective negation. Even though one can be enlightened, it isn't until they physically die that they acheive metaphysical immortality which is to not reanimate into physical existence ever again. There's potentially unlimited extensions of the Nous, but there's only one psyche tou pantos. Metaphysical anamnesis leads to spiritual henosis, but it's transcendence through as above so below, not as below so above. As below so above comes up with irrational thoughts like thinking that "god" is a human just like you are, as below so above.
>left hand facing swastika
>implying right-left dichotomy
If the flow of the swastika goes back into the source, it's counterspatial. If the flow of the swastika externalize the energy outwards away from the source, it's spatial. Left or right facing, doesn't matter, both are happening within Kaos.
>>55377
>1&2&3=3?
1&2&3=9=3x3=3+3+3
>Euler's number
Mathematicians are not Monistic Arithmeticians, they make up whatever shit they like and postulate answers out of sheer speculation. Mathematicians are the Quantum Mechanics and General Relativity crackpot atomists behind all the stupid conjecture that has no objective nor subjective proof whatsoever. That being said, I have to ask, which Euler's number are you talking about? h ttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_things_named_after_Leonhard_Euler#Euler.27s_numbers


Anonymous 09/10/2017 (Sun) 09:03:32 Id: 88e217 [Preview] No. 55388 del
>>55377
I would say that this might help, but you first need to read this first: h ttps://archive.org/details/PythagorasPlatoAndTheGoldenRatio before reading this faulty translation: h ttps://archive.org/details/iamblichus-theologyarithmetic

It's really hard to explain certain specific things with words and I've failed to do so, while there's people that already explain them better than I do of which I've gleaned from. As I've said before, none of what I've said is really anything new nor my "own opinion". A couple of idiots here thought that I'm a specific Youtuber whom I did learn a lot of stuff from, but I'm really not that guy, well, this guy: h ttps://w ww.youtube.com/user/kathodosdotcom/videos?sort=da&view=0&flow=grid I'm also not this weeaboo: h ttps://w ww.youtube.com/channel/UCw4PdOKfVxT9MiDQygulTnw nor this Canuck: h ttps://vid.me/Gerard_Morin nor a baguette: h ttps://w ww.youtube.com/watch?v=FTP-H4oFLYc&list=PL9603DF9FB1BB4DD5 I'm really just a nobody, an Anonymous nobody. You either get it or you don't. Don't get it now, get it later or don't, everybody got an eternity to figure out the truth and return to the source. Projective geometry is the physical universe, but it depends on an inverse geometry.

I really don't want this thread to be just me and you talking. Just know that shits like Miguel Serrano, Aleister Crowley, Bertrand Russel, Aristotle, Robert Anton Wilson, <insert 99.99% of all names of modern philosophers, psychologists, religious/occult leaders, professors, teachers, gurus out there here> has zero understanding of Monism, as well as most mainstream cults including "Satanic" cults only know that they know nothing. That's just how things are. Metaphysics are always bastardized by creationists, egoists (Max Stirner, Nietzsche), atomists/materialists, pagans, roleplayers (any fraternal order), nihilists, atheists, agnostics, politicians, charlatans, and stupid people. Besides some dead cults, some geniuses that spend their time contemplating on the truth by themselves, and whatever the fuck you call post Neo Pythagorean revival through the internet, humanity as a whole is FUBAR, SNAFU, TARFU, etc. Good luck with your life and all that, but I'm getting tired of explaining these things, shit's too meta to even discuss about more general conspiracies like the nature of false flags, historical proof of why matriarchies aren't functional in a national scale, what really went down in the JFK assassination (there were multiple shooters, only one of them managed to hit JFK) or who was behind the conspiracy (a whole list of terrible shitbags) which I find this this documentary to answer questions that other JFK conspiracy theorists had failed to answer: h ttps://w ww.youtube.com/watch?v=U1Qt6a-vaNM why Austrian Economics is Jewish bullshit, what's going on in modern day Palestine politically, why is X group controlled opposition, how exactly did big X did Y against Z and getting away with it, etc.


Anonymous 09/10/2017 (Sun) 18:10:51 Id: c0e4ad [Preview] No. 55393 del
>>55378
Could have made a PDF and uploaded it, I mean there are countless ways to make it more organized.
>Where, in some other universe?
Exactly. I was being ironic actually. But according to some of those theories, everything that could have happened (no matter how unlikely, as long as it's not impossible) has already happened in one.

>>55380
>There is "pure Christianity" and it is from a rejection of scholasticism and a return to its roots as defined by the Christian bible of which there's only 66 of them
Are you referring to certain gospels? So according to you, Jesus was a true monist and that was the source of his "godhood"? He achieved henosis through trinity?
>Just because there's one divine principle doesn't mean that the Monad has gnosis, it knows nothing, hence, primordial ignorance.
Which is exactly what I tried to convey to you. Going back to it doesn't seem like the best of ideas, unless you think it's circular and the beginning = the end at that point. In other words, absolute ignorance = absolute wisdom
>Free will and determinism are illusions
You can have one, another, or a combination of the two (that eventually converges into one state). If both are an illusion, what is not?
>Everybody still gotta work, pay stupid taxes, eat food, shit food
There are much better modes of existence that don't necessarily involve those things. It's just that we happen to inhabit one of shittiest states and density.
>the concept of the whole Jewish race to be their own Messiah since they thought that they were no different than Jesus.
So basically he let goyim be deceived by the Jesus while his people decided to take their destiny in their hands
>But Gnostic teachings aren't compatible with Hellenic rationalism, m8.
How?
>It's quite pathetic how anti-Jewish people end up using identity politics
You seem to be completely ignorant of the archetypes. Also, Jews are probably the most xenophobic nation in existence.
>>55383
>and so they also don't literally worship stars nor follow pantheism.
Neither do Mithraists. They just convey certain knowledge through symbols.
>they won't come back here in another body anymore
Where will they "go" then. You keen avoiding to describe that state.
>Irrelevant
My point was that they had part of that DNA because they have mixed with some of the natives that they didn't outright kill. So it's quite relevant.
>Kabbalah literally means "to receive"
It has several meanings, one of them being a name for a certain mystical system, that most Rabbis denounce as heretical. You won't find an orthodox Jewish synagogue, even many "reformed" ones teaching that.
>The Jesuit Order had Marrano Jews (crypto Jews) and persecuted Templar scions.
Who persecuted the Jews then? Here you have given another example of Jesuits and Tempars being on the opposite sides.


Anonymous 09/10/2017 (Sun) 18:37:04 Id: c0e4ad [Preview] No. 55394 del
>>55384
>Although a dimensionless point is a pointless point
A point is not a dimension. Line, square and cube are.
>There's no infinite "blank-state points"
There are as many as there are numbers
>there's only one "zero point" of unmanifest energy.
That's also the infinity. Zero contains all numbers internally. What I'm trying to say that multiplicity is inherent in the essence itself.
>As below so above comes up with irrational thoughts like thinking that "god" is a human just like you are
God is inherent in all things to a certain degree
>but reality is the perception of the Nous of which without the Nous, there won't be you
Here, you said it yourself
>If the flow of the swastika goes back into the source, it's counterspatial.
So is anti-entropy. Left and right is just a symbolic representation
>which Euler's number are you talking about?
h ttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E_(mathematical_constant)

>>55388
>It's really hard to explain certain specific things with words and I've failed to do so
That's because you lack the proper structure. Maybe you could collect everything that you know (or think that you know), explain each thing properly and then synthesize it. But try to make it logical, organized and simple (I have no doubts that those things make perfect sense to you, but if you want to explain them to someone else, it will require certain "translation" as different people have different thought patterns. This is especially difficult if you deny the objective and try to convey the subjective)

>I really don't want this thread to be just me and you talking
Maybe you could make a thread about that specific subject and keep it there, it's better than increasing the magnitude of this one.


Anonymous 09/10/2017 (Sun) 18:54:38 Id: 4ea6be [Preview] No. 55395 del
>>55388
That last YouTube link you provided is coming across as biased towards FDR, implicating he was a hero who woke up to the problems of fascism. The documentary fails to mention how FDR purposely agitated to get the Japanese to bomb Pearl Harbor. They suggest they believe in the lie of the holocaust, and paint Ford and National Socialism in a negative light. Of course Ford supported Hitler. He had booklets/pamphlets of The International Jew published. It only covers part of why Germany lost, as the resource givers pulled the plug on Germany. These international rich bankers were against Bolsheviks? The U.S. gave to the Soviet Union from October 1, 1941 to May 31, 1945 the following: 427,284 trucks, 13,303 combat vehicles, 35,170 motorcycles, 2,328 ordnance service vehicles, 2,670,371 tons of petroleum products (gasoline and oil), 4,478,116 tons of foodstuffs (canned meats, sugar, flour, salt, etc.), 1,900 steam locomotives, 66 Diesel locomotives, 9,920 flat cars" Without that kind of help USSR would have been crushed. Basically, while covering many truths, it is an elaborate puff piece. IF you believe the nonsense of the holocaust was real, I just started a thread on 8cucks empty board about this.
h ttps://8ch.net/hitler/res/5.html (To avoid spamming this thread)
About JFK's assassination. Lee Harvey Oswald said, ""I didn't shoot anybody. They've taken me in because of the fact that I lived in the Soviet Union. I'm just a patsy!" Born Jacob Leonard Rubenstein, ((Jack Ruby)) shot Oswald. That was a jew.
>It's quite pathetic how anti-Jewish people end up using identity politics to justify a total hatred of a group of people that isn't the same as you are
I recognize many evils of the tribe. Or perhaps you just don't care about the Apartheid Adventures(<-YouTube search) they're having in Israel as they slaughter Palestinian children. To be honest, modern evils of jews were the first events that turned me away from indoctrination. Discovering the truth about the lie of the holocaust was the second. Watching Hitler's speeches was the third.


Anonymous 09/10/2017 (Sun) 19:45:24 Id: 88e217 [Preview] No. 55396 del
>>55393
>Are you referring to certain gospels?
The 66 books of the Christian bible of the Reformation is scriptures that is confirmed by scriptures to be scriptures while the rest contradicted the scriptures and so aren't included in the canon and is only mentioned and placed separately as false books that Catholics or Jews did made up of which only 1 Maccabees is historically accurate yet it was still during their time when their god hated them. Jesus was not a Monist and you can't achieve henosis through the Christian Trinity, but many don't realize how Platonic that first century Christianity was, promoted many things that Monism did without being fully Monistic. They had reinterpreted various concepts from Monism that just so happened to line up with their restoration of the Mushite interpretation of the scriptures which were in direct opposition to the Aaronid interpretation of the scriptures that removed any hidden meaning of the seeming barbaric temple rituals by speaking the written words that have no vowels in them with vowels that imply things that can mean something entirely the opposite to the materialistic, super literal interpretation. Jesus and the Apostles sought to bring forth that suppressed understanding of the Hebrew scriptures which that part was entirely unique to Christianity for it's also the fulfilment of their prophecies through their correct interpretation of the scriptures of which even the Pharisees knew were true yet denied as they've sold out to the Roman Empire in their blind greed.
>Which is exactly what I tried to convey to you.
Wrong. The Nous knows itself and so everything to know, reflects the power back to the source like a mirror/moon sharing the light of the sun, or like a fire in a cave. Henosis with the Nous = unity with Monad = supernal bliss, liberation of the conscious from perpetual reanimation. "Absolute" physical ignorance is not primordial spiritual ignorance. Unmanifest power isn't manifest power (which is always impotent than its true unmanifest potential). Primordial agnosis leads to true gnosis through apophaticism. Physical or existential ignorance is ignorance reified, they're ignorant of their ignorance. Those that seek the truth have seen the illumination of the truth but had yet to turn around to see the source of light and its illumination. Light and illumination are inseparable, just as gnosis and agnosis is inseparable. Primordial agnosis is the extension of light, AKA: illumination, it is what light does but it isn't what light is. There is no separation between the Monad and the Nous, and again, there's no "time" so unmanifest power and unmanifest conscious (preconscious) always is, never was not before the other, yet at the same time, the Monad formed the Nous while the Nous which is the Monad formed Kaos and psyche but they're outside of the Monad and the Nous just as a creator cannot be its creation, it can't be its extension. Understanding the indefinite dyad is a must. h ttps://archive.org/details/IndefiniteDyadPlotinusMetaphysicsMysticism


Anonymous 09/10/2017 (Sun) 20:09:15 Id: 88e217 [Preview] No. 55397 del
>>55393
>Free will and determinism
Giving a fuck about whether or not you have a will has nothing to do with whether or not you are a spirit puppeting a shadow ignorantly thinking that the shadow existence has any material free will or material determinism, both are spoken in materialistic ways. Natural Law isn't animalistic, there's a sentience threshold necessary to recognize the importance of having a fair trial, and other stuff mentioned in the Bill of Rights. However, the legal system forgets that a subject isn't objectifiable to any material quantity, while they stretch the definition of a "person" to be a "persona", a mere concept of a person to be a "corpus", a body of people that has nearly the same rights as people, which American Law had made corporations similar to religions to the point of tricking religious organizations into thinking that a 501c3 tax exempt organization is not an incorporated state entity. The metaphysical subject/consciousness is not a physical subject bound to erroneous laws and morals of whatever people that they live among. Any government is a social compromise to get food of the table through shared labor of the collective. Anyone that is anyone is conscious, so "has" a will to choose, but again, all choices are in between ignorance and wisdom, while if you have true wisdom, you merely merge the will of the Good with the True Self/conscious that one day after physical death seeks union with the Nous and so with the Monad, is the Monad.
Besides living on robot labor to depend on universal income or to be born an animal or an alien species foreign to humans, sentient physical beings will still eat food, shit food or have a biology that continually grows without shitting.
>So basically he let goyim be deceived by the Jesus while his people decided to take their destiny in their hands
No you got it all wrong, Philo of Alexandria used Hellenic rationalism to claim that the Jews are "The Messiah" as a collective when technically their own Hebrew scriptures/bible without Talmudic commentary only points to Jesus being "The Messiah" but these Jews that rejected Jesus thought that "salvation" was separation from the Roman Empire, that their "Messiah" would liberate them from Rome. Most of the Pharisees knew that it was a bullshit political claim with misinterpretation of the bible. The Jewish-Roman Revolt was an entirely anti Christian event of which the Christians escaped the destruction of Jerusalem just as Jesus told them that it would happen and how to flee from that destruction. Most of the book of Revelation was fulfilled in AD 67-73.
>How?
Just as Pythagoreans weren't interested in music but in divine ratios, the Pythagoreans weren't interested in astronomy but the divine ratios seen in celestial movement, they didn't worship stars and planets, as they weren't also really musicians. It's like an artist that is only interested in the geometric shapes used in a car, can somewhat drive a car, but isn't a car mechanic, nor worships cars nor the car mechanics.
>archetypes
There's only four general personalities and six types of intellects, ontologically speaking. Aristotelian archetypes as well as pagan zodiac archetypes are not Platonic archetypes. Archetypes means nothing to me the way you use it.
>Neither do Mithraists
There's many statues of Mithras formed and literally worshipped locally through those statues. The closest thing Pythagoreans got to an icon is on a coin that isn't meant to be worshipped at all since for one, they hated money for what it does to people, and again, Pythagoreans don't actually worship the way pagans do, and yes, Mithraism is fundamentally pagan, not Zoroastrian which is "less pagan", more abstract eastern mystic concepts, more on the side of Creationism than pagan, though it's also slighty dualistic. Zoroastrians rejected Mithraism for heresy in dabbling in astrology while Pythagoreans don't give a rat's ass about horoscopes.


Anonymous 09/10/2017 (Sun) 21:03:43 Id: 88e217 [Preview] No. 55398 del
>>55393
>Where will they "go" then. You keen avoiding to describe that state.
When any living sentient being dies, the conscious that was puppeting the shadow puppet lets go of the shadow puppet because there's nothing left to ignorantly grasp on, but until it achieves henosis, it won't seek to turn around to see the light to get out of the cave as in stop playing with shadow puppets, stop reanimation. The conscious never was physical so it doesn't physically go anywhere nor has it left anywhere, but the psyche can either merge with the Nous and so not "come back" playing shadow puppets again, or it seeks to play shadow puppets yet again even though the shadow puppets aren't real yet the suffering that it experiences you ignorantly identify it with spiritual suffering when the psyche/conscious/spirit isn't suffering at all, only the meat bag is. The Psyche, Nous, Monad, they're all unmanifest, but there's still some differentiation between them as well as some form of unity even though the Psyche is outside of the Nous, the Psyche is the Monad and the Nous, of which the Nous is the Monad but also isn't yet is but the Monad can "be" without the Nous.
>My point was that they had part of that DNA because they have mixed with some of the natives that they didn't outright kill.
Culture is not DNA, DNA is not culture. Objectifying culture as DNA is Jungian or Freudian crap. Collective consciousness = groupthink. Identity politics is inherently devisive groupthink.
>Here you have given another example of Jesuits and Tempars being on the opposite sides.
You don't quite get how I speak. The Jesuit Order had Marrano Jews among them as well as Templar scions that were persecuted by the Vatican. I had already mentioned that the Vatican as well as King Philip "the Fair" persecuted the Templars, yet the Templars merged with the Marrano Jews in forming the Jesuit order because they were both persecuted by the Vatican.
>>55394
>A point is not a dimension
Anything with a cartesian point exists physically, it's physical, within the physical realm. The "inside" of black holes have no physical footprint, there's nothing physically inside black holes because it's in the other side of the aether. People that claim that black holes have a singularity point are still wrong because they're still implying that a black hole has a cartesian point. Non physical reality is metaphysical and has no point, it's less than a point, the negative side of the line graph past beyond zero. If you say non cartesian point, even using "point" that way is still wrong but the idea is closer to the concept of counterspace. What you see is the negation of space when you see images of black holes of which that very word by denotation makes no sense although by connotation if I don't say black holes, you wouldn't know what the fuck I'm talking about even though there's no "holes" in space and black is a reified quality into a "color" when black is actually the absense of color, and the absence of light itself.


Anonymous 09/10/2017 (Sun) 21:26:12 Id: 88e217 [Preview] No. 55399 del
>>55394
>There are as many as there are numbers
Nope, there's only one.
>That's also the infinity
"Zero point" isn't to be taken too literally, I've put it in quotations for a reason. It's not really a zero nor a point, nor both together. There's only one anti-field, just as there's only one field, while the anti-field itself emanates the field and so the field cannot exist without the anti-field/counterspace. The aether is merely in between the anti-field and the field, has hysteresis. There's another aether between the Nous and the Psyche, while the Monad shares the aether with the Nous.
>God is inherent in all things to a certain degree
Monistic top down Panentheism is not bottom up Panentheism is not Pantheism.
>entropy
The first people that conjured up the Laws of Thermodynamics didn't really forsee the discovery of radioactive elements nor the discovery of electricity. There's an infinite source that gives off energy in finite increments, and it's from counterspace of which that energy is brought into this world through churning the aether through magnets and copper of which electricity is formed with magnetic fields going against a dielectric material, so electricity is magneto-dielectric. Only a mechanical force to rotate a magnetic field against a highly dielectric material can create electricity and it can be converted to rotate magnets connected to something that physically moves with the magnets. The electrical grid actually gets most of the electricity that goes from the hot wire to the neutral back into the powerstation which is reused back to the customers within less than a nanosecond. The electric field isn't within the copper wires, nor is it physical. Electricity terminates into magnetism but magnetism isn't electricity. The electrical grid is really one huge overunity grid, but most electricians don't quite understand how electricity works and were only told enough to do maintenance while a few actually knows what's going on.


Anonymous 09/10/2017 (Sun) 21:26:36 Id: 88e217 [Preview] No. 55400 del
>>55394
>h ttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E_(mathematical_constant)
As mathematically fascinating that irrational number is, it has no meaning outside of mathematics. That isn't to say that Euler was by any means stupid, at least he was against the Newtonian concept of corpuscular light. QM and GR fags however, take Euler out of context to imply that the wave-particle bullshit cult is true.
>That's because you lack the proper structure. Maybe you could collect everything that you know (or think that you know), explain each thing properly and then synthesize it. But try to make it logical, organized and simple (I have no doubts that those things make perfect sense to you, but if you want to explain them to someone else, it will require certain "translation" as different people have different thought patterns. This is especially difficult if you deny the objective and try to convey the subjective)
>structure
lol. Again, you either get it or you don't. You don't have to listen to me to understand Monism, I've already linked to various sources that you should look into and try to comprehend it. The only way people can understand Monism is to understand the via negativa methodology, neti-neti, apophaticism, etc. I don't deny the object, it's a real illusion from a real subject, but that subject isn't physical but metaphysical. Also, Monism always improve upon its predecessors in conveying the same system yet in ways that not only perfects it, but improves upon the errors formed by lingua franca, yet in doing so makes it into an abstruse shorthand idiosyncratic language of which requires someone as wise or wiser to decipher.
>Maybe you could make a thread about that specific subject and keep it there, it's better than increasing the magnitude of this one.
This really isn't completely /pol/ related at all, neither is it /christian/ nor /atheism/ or anything else, but I really don't want to deal with managing a board, there's like two or three persistent endchan spammers that destroys anything that they hate and /sp/ and /pol/ are the only two boards that developed some form of immunity against it in one way or another, while if I do run a dead board, nobody would really check to see it either.


Anonymous 09/10/2017 (Sun) 21:47:18 Id: 88e217 [Preview] No. 55401 del
>>55395
I think you've missed the various key points made in the documentary that is true even though not everything in it is completely true. Henry Ford was a Freemason that funded both sides of the war. Actual JFK conspiracy theorists didn't really have any closure as to what happened, how did it happen, who were behind it, and how did those that were behind it made it happen somehow, up until that documentary came out. It wasn't merely the Jews, it was also the Italian Mafia, Wall Street bankers, crooked politicians. A narrowminded focus of the Jews alone totally misses the totality of what happened, how did it happen, who were behind it, and how did those that were behind it made it happen. Ontological evil transcends identity politics.


Anonymous 09/10/2017 (Sun) 22:18:05 Id: 4ea6be [Preview] No. 55402 del
>>55401
Of course it was all of those organizations. I don't deny that part of the documentary. To understand more about these deceptive practices, you should watch the following: h ttps://w ww.youtube.com/watch?v=-N3TJXTtE4g
Ryan Dawson on decades of deception. Jews were behind these deceptions more than you think they are. The Italian mafia are in bed with Zionists, Wall Street was ran by them, and the majority of crooked politicians were either jewish or had jewish advisors. While kikes are the number one issue, the organizations that bend to them are a problem as well.


Anonymous 09/10/2017 (Sun) 23:01:26 Id: 88e217 [Preview] No. 55403 del
>>55402
You're still missing the totality of the point by only focusing in a specific angle of the totality. You cannot answer why kikes are evil while you believe that emanations of evil comes from kikes, and kike dependent. Everything that you hate = kikes = evil, how oversimplistic are your conclusions? BTW, some "amerindians" are just as tribalistic, if not equally evil as the Jews in race baiting and are symbiotic to some regard in power over those that they're race baiting, and I'm not quite sure Dawson grasps how dangerous identity politics is, while the shit he said in denying pizzagate (pedogate) and such was really stupid. He sure can prove to Israelis that they're playing the blame game to justify their evil, but I wonder if he realizes that amerindian tribes are also equally violent as any other tribal base level hunter group in history. You cannot claim that there's ontological evil and then say that it is inherently Jewish. No, Jewish people are just more evil than most evil people that subjugate others. The problem is merely that white tribes are the most cucked by the Jews while other tribes know better to not fall for their bullshit because they're equally as evil and racist as the Jews are to be able to recognize what they're doing. You're just an outlyer of the cucked white tribes. In one hand, white people want power over other groups of people, but in another hand, can't ever truly do that through an empire of which either is a parasitic empire or is being engourged with parasites from within that becomes one with the host. Evil corrupts what's innocent/pure, but the truth transcends ignorance and so is immune to evil, corruption, and ignorance. White people's aspirations are fundamentally no different than what the Jews seek, no different than what any other tribe seeks for their own gain at the expense of others. Such is the reason for meaningless wars while resources diminish while population growth is sought to be limited which in turn forces equilibrium of a zero growth population, a halt in any progress because there's no room for any form of expansion, from the intellectual, to the physical. It in turns is the suppression of natural growth and so life seeks to mediate this by internal conflict, tribal wars, civil wars, or even world wars. All forms of governments is a political philosophy to mediate life itself which ultimately, is merely drama at a bigger scale of groupthink. All governments needs excess power over people to distribute equality unequally, and any system, even the best system eventually decays into anarchy, so all forms of government are merely temporary systems that the group is semi comfortable with that ends up being destroyed from within or from the outside even if it becomes a closed system of governance, and humanity as a whole is stupid and lacking in various things individually in various aspects which is why we're social creatures whether we like it or not. It's therefore not exclusively a Jewish problem, but a disease within the core of humanity itself in being unable to righteously rule over each other fairly. This is why real philosophers usually have a pessimistic outlook towards human drama to really be a foolish puppet show that we call "history", while the ongoing puppet show we call "geopolitics". There's no objective answer to antinomies of which evil is the privation of good which was formed in an attempt to separate order out of chaos, also created disorder. With Jews you lose? With life you lose no matter what because there's always going to be evil where there's any good within this world. I genuinely believe that if people replace the Jews, it would only be replaced with something equally worse or that it merely changed its name into something else, because evil isn't dependent on genetic DNA.


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>>55403
>You cannot answer why kikes are evil
Yes I can. The Talmud, similar to why followers of Islam and the Quran practice evil.
>Everything that you hate = kikes = evil, how oversimplistic are your conclusions?
Not everything I hate equals kikes. That's you oversimplifying me.
>some "amerindians" are just as tribalistic, if not equally evil
I've met very few American Indians. Those that I have met were piss broke. They live off of reservations. They're not in an American Indian near monopoly as CEOs of major businesses.
h ttp://w ww.sunray22b.net/who_controls_television__who_con.htm
Scroll to the bottom, and there are more links about what I mean.
Although the author of thezog.info mistakenly thinks the Irish are jews, clearly jews greatly outnumber Irish in power.
>I'm not quite sure Dawson grasps how dangerous identity politics is,
>while the shit he said in denying pizzagate (pedogate) and such was really stupid.
I'm very sure you shouldn't dismiss his extensive research on past decades of war deception based on his stupidity over pizzagate. Really, picking what the truth is through scoffing rhetoric isn't all that hard.
>amerindian tribes are also equally violent as any other tribal base level hunter group in history
They don't have the wealth, and do not wield the influence as international Zionism does. American Indians did have violent tribes. Now they have little power whatsoever. Clearly, you haven't seen Netanyahu on Bill Mahar owning up to it, saying "the trick is, we own America".
>The problem is merely that white tribes are the most cucked by the Jews
White skin is not the only factor controlled by the jews. MTV culture influences what blacks perceive to be black culture.
>while other tribes know better to not fall for their bullshit
They don't know any better. Blacks fall for the perception that white people ran the Trans-Atlantic slave-trade when the jews actually ran it, and that white people were behind owning slaves when jews did by a higher percentage.
>because they're equally as evil and racist as the Jews
Because they're influenced by the media of the jews.
>You're just an outlyer of the cucked white tribes.
Wait. Are you jewish yourself? You speak a lot of defense for them, and a whole lot about whites being cucked. If not jewish, I must ask if you are non-white. Pay attention to the fact I haven't labelled you yet without your input. You won't receive this treatment from many others.
>In one hand, white people want power over other groups of people
This is a generalization. "White people" as a skin color encompasses a vast group of nationalities. I can guarantee not every individual of each nationality wants power over other people. The jews themselves are not all Zionists either, but Zionism is the problem as much as evil Talmudic reasoning of prophesying 2800 goyim slaves.
>but in another hand, can't ever truly do that through an empire of which either is a parasitic empire
>or is being engourged with parasites from within that becomes one with the host.
Zionists. All jews would not be the same, as long as they rejected their Talmudic beliefs and the obvious lie of the holocaust. Obviously, jews in Israel cannot do such a thing.
>Evil corrupts what's innocent/pure, but the truth transcends ignorance and so is immune to evil, corruption, and ignorance.
Truths are distorted with lies. Corruption does the same to truth, as does ignorance. There is no such thing as truth being immune to such subversive tactics.
>White people's aspirations are fundamentally no different than what the Jews seek
Which white people? Again, there are various nationalities, and not all aspirations are the same. (1)


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>no different than what any other tribe seeks for their own gain at the expense of others
Okay, name the tribe that seeks their own gain at the expense of others. How do you blanket "whites" as a label? You came across as fairly scientific throughout most of this thread. I agree with you that it's not exclusively a jewish problem, and that humanity does have trouble being able to righteously rule over one another. This does not prevent me from identifying problematic Zionists out of some popular agenda to "not be bigoted or anti-semitic". Israelites are anti-semitic, in that they slaughter semitic Palestinians. Yet their Mossad frequently use the "anti semitic" accusation, as well as jews from the ADL and JDL. You should YouTube search confessions of ex-Mossad agents.
>I genuinely believe that if people replace the Jews, it would only be replaced with something equally worse
This isn't always the case. Jews were expelled from power in National Socialist Germany, and they did fairly well. Yes you could claim that your puff-piece documentary that they were financed from the outside. However, that never explained the greatly increased value of the Reichmark over the hugely devalued Papiermark. The one fool claiming in Red Pill general that "Hitler got rid of Jews and, surprise surprise, everything got better." completely neglected to read my long response as to how the problem was fixed. I don't believe everything will magically sort itself out once the jews are removed. The damage is done, and that must be fixed.
>>55275 (the second half)
>>55276
You can't rid a garden of pests and then neglect it. That only leads to further decay.
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Anonymous 09/11/2017 (Mon) 03:30:43 Id: 88e217 [Preview] No. 55412 del
>>55405
>Yes I can. The Talmud, similar to why followers of Islam and the Quran practice evil.
So basically religions are evil because they're tribalistic or one that seeks to gain power through corrupting religion as an excuse, of which the NSDAP are equally guilty of making their own version of Christianity. You do realize that not every Jew knows what the fuck is in the Talmud and that even the Jews are deceived by other Jews.
>Really, picking what the truth is through scoffing rhetoric isn't all that hard.
I'm just saying, some Amerindians are crypto kikes or are shabbos goyim that perpetuate identity politics for business purposes, but of course you mention those that live in reservations, not the ones that guilt trip Americans and claim to deserve to be in their land and such, but the problem is, they lost by biological warfare and by a lack of technology and a lack of hatred against the colonies. Some Amerindian tribes were just as cucked as the mish-mash of White Americans are now that are living together with the Juden among them, but by an even more subvertive enemy that uses the differences between each other. Malcolm X doesn't see himself as "African", he had lost his African roots as did many Black Americans had. White Americans equally lost their culture as a whole to the Juden through the major six media corporations controlled by the Juden. The abuse of feneralization is a form of identity politics. Using it will always make anyone lose an argument because identity politics is the justification of the evils done by one's group when individually, there's those that are ignorant and those that are semi aware but nobody is fully aware of each other's bitching and doesn't care about it because again, people care more about their tribe than the rights of the individual in generalizing the rejection of a group entirely when individually in every case by case, everyone's different and don't necessarily support what the wider group that is portrayed by the media actually believes in. I've seen more racist North East Asians (Chinese[there's various "chinese" people yet are in different nations of their own and abroad], Japanese[they hate themselves really], Okinawans[tricked by Imperial Japan to be mostly the ones that were forced to be kamikaze airplane fighters], Koreans[the Irish of the Orient, always trying to racebait Japan]) who're technically genetically similar to each other yet vehemently race baiting each other for what happened for essentially at least 2000 years. I also really shouldn't need to mention how terrible the Mongolians are and still culturally is to this day. Of course the "media" as well as other groups would claim that they're liberals, but no, they're just as ununified as "White America" and I bet most "Asian" statistics never differentiate North East Asians and South East Asians of which it's the South East Asians that are more Dravidian than Mongoloid.


Anonymous 09/11/2017 (Mon) 04:06:11 Id: 88e217 [Preview] No. 55413 del
>>55405
>Am I Jewish?
No, but my statements isn't any less true. just as Ryan Dawson isn't a pure Amerindian.
>If not jewish, I must ask if you are non-white.
I thought "white" didn't exist according to you? Generalizations are generally true, hence, called truisms. You do realize that I don't seek to play identity politics with you. If I said I'm "non-white" then disregard everything that I had said just because I'm "non-white", you're playing identity politics. Everybody loses with identity politics, because all tribes are guilty of enslavement of other groups at some time of their history through either covert or overt means. It's a stupid way to terminate any thought provoking criticism with "lol you're not us". I'm North East Asian, I'm half of one group, half another, but I won't say anymore. I'm a "mutt" by some standards, but in other standards, one group came from the other so I'm not a "mutt". It's all relative you see.
>Talmud this, talmud that
I have a copy of Martin Luther's "On the Jews and their Lies", I don't like Jews just as I don't trust the Chinese, but I hate identity politics even more. It's ultimately the objective fallacy of identifying with a genetic persona. Objective comparisons between genetically different groups of people doesn't explain much about culture. Chinese people were culturally well cultured until Communism hit them hard. Genetics doesn't always equate to "superior culture".
>Truths are distorted with lies. Corruption does the same to truth, as does ignorance. There is no such thing as truth being immune to such subversive tactics
That's where you're wrong, especially if you are stuck in the mindset under identity politics where only your own special snowflake identity deserves superior recognition above all else. Are you then admitting that Nazi propaganda also distorted with lies? Are you admitting that you're bullshiting me with "truths" about the Jews by generalizing them completely even if there's people that doesn't want anything to do with Judaism, Israel, and even being called a Jew by abandoning everything about their cultural group identity? If a Jew truly converts to Christianity, is it still a Jew or is it a crypto-kike? The answer is different case by case, but there's no such thing as a genetic Jew, nor even a cultural Jew, it's merely an abuse of identification phenomenology by claiming to "be" a group without even contributing anything towards said group, it's merely a facade of an identity, which then doesn't make it even a true identity. This same argument can be used against any and all tribes.


Anonymous 09/11/2017 (Mon) 04:10:53 Id: 88e217 [Preview] No. 55414 del
>>55406
>Okay, name the tribe that seeks their own gain at the expense of others.
>being this fucking stupid
Literally all tribes that had a caste system, that had slavery, that had a feudal system. That's all of humanity, literally there's very few exceptions to this and it's mostly from a lack of understanding and information even available about said human tribe.
>How do you blanket "whites" as a label?
How do you blanket "non-white" as a label you hypocrite.
You do realize that Jews hate other Jews, right? Askenazi Jews irradiated many Sephardi Jews in the 50's just as they've tried to sterilize Ethiopian "Jews" through vaccination. The #openbordersforisrael thing is already happening for many decades yet at the same time, they also try to kill each other. and claim one group of Jew is less Jew than the other. They got their own problems to deal with. They even got the Chinese Kaifeng Jews to flee to Israel yet at a time they weren't considered Jews up until the Chinese government cracked down on them just as they've cracked down on other religious organizations including Christianity, yet they're making China look like they hate Jews through this when the Chinese are in some forms very "liberal" in seeking Palestine to be freed from the systematic genocide and to be truly independent with its own electrical and pipes not controlled by Israel, while of course, China is a part of the BRICS of whic they seek to form a multipolar world where no one group has more power over the other.
>This isn't always the case.
No, it NEVER HAPPENED. Germany had failed to get the international Jews back into Israel. It requires an international effort to get these Jews to their land of which was never promised by the very God that they pretend to worship, and guess what, that very God claimed that they will never return to that land ever again. Using Christianity to hate on Jews has its limitations because it won't truly solve the Jewish question. As said before, there needs to be an opposite Hitler for something like that to happen on a truly global scale because it sure as hell isnt' "biblical".


Anonymous 09/11/2017 (Mon) 04:32:25 Id: 88e217 [Preview] No. 55415 del
>>55412
>feneralization
*generalization

I'm really not trying to be a dick here, but that's the nature of identity politics. everybody loses with identity politics, and trying to use it against others won't make anyone any better than their enemies that also uses it. You can't create a win-win society through a lose-lose system, and debatably, not even Hitler made it a win-lose scenario, he had send the Jews with a heavy sacrifice with the strict terms of letting them keep their wealth as they fuck off to Palestine which is a British occupation controlled by British Jews that's merged with the upper echelons of the British Empire. The problem this time is that no country can really truly afford to do that anymore, everyone's either a pussy or believe in higher ideations of which their barbaric neighbors don't believe in and abuse their enabling of which was slowly tweaked by the Jews through their interpretation of culture.


Anonymous 09/11/2017 (Mon) 05:04:54 Id: 88e217 [Preview] No. 55416 del
History is a terrible drama which there really is no true objective answer to why X group of people did Y to Z group of people. In some forms, even history itself when taught incorrectly, is perpetuating myths of identity when it never truly solves existential questions as well as metaphysical questions, but that's "politically incorrect" since it has nothing to do with politics? On the contrary, the appeal of any form of nationalism, tribal or civic, is very strong just as the bond between a father and a son should be, but it's a false representation of a true father through a group father, "pator" which interprets the law of the land for the "children". Direct democracy on the other hand, is unfortunately many times worse than representative government, yet both are easily manipulatable the more money people got to make people do things they ought not to do. Secularization of metaphysics leads to the creation of religions and cults that the populace destroys like a fat woman stepping on roses. The rejection of truth itself is ignorance, and forming "relative" truths leads to more destruction and the inevitable demise of humanity. That's where everybody's heading collectively because there's evil people and corrupt people control the sheeple for the evil people while those that are aware are like groundhogs keeping their heads below the ground and only stick their heads out to see if the coast is clear for all the sheeple, wolves, and guard dogs. The neglect of dialectic thinking leads to strong tribalism, and unfortunately, schools had deliberately hidden people from the truth to the point where they're truly forgotten how to think anymore. Individual dialectic education at a wide scale level is the only solution to erroneous unjustifiable beliefs of all forms, but of course that will never truly happen at least for this accursed century where humanity had reached peak knowledge, thinks that they have acheived endgame wisdom, when nothing's further from the truth than that.


Anonymous 09/11/2017 (Mon) 05:45:43 Id: 4ea6be [Preview] No. 55417 del
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Okay, pissy asian guy. I was having a civil discussion with you, but you lost your temper.
>>55412
>So basically religions are evil because they're tribalistic
No. The TALMUD is evil. Not because it's religious, but because it calls to dehumanize the goyim as cattle. Jews consider themselves the chosen people and all others are even subject to be raped underaged as long as they aren't jews.
>not every Jew knows what the fuck is in the Talmud
Jews are raised specifically to study the Talmud, the Torah, Tanakh and Siddur. They are a very specific ethnic religious category. White is not. It is a blanket label with vast nationalities that you as an Asian fail to understand.
>some Amerindians are crypto kikes or are shabbos goyim that perpetuate identity politics for business purposes
Citation needed. And don't get your fucking panties in a bunch and go "this fucking stupid" again like an unreasonable woman on the rag.
>not the ones that guilt trip Americans and claim to deserve to be in their land
I didn't claim American Indians were fucking amazing. You act like I'm taking their side. They're ignorant red-skinned idiots who just like you believe all white-skinned nationalities can be swept into one blanket known as "white".
>Some Amerindian tribes were just as cucked as the mish-mash of White Americans are now
See, I'm coming more and more across your hatred of white races. Pissing you off served a purpose. You're easily revealed.
>Malcolm X doesn't see himself as "African", he had lost his African roots as did many Black Americans had.
Newflash there: Malcom X is dead. He can't see anything anymore. His eyes were open to the jews, even as he was blaming the "all encompassing" "white race".
h ttps://w ww.youtube.com/watch?v=DNPuXcN9QhY
>these are the asian races that piss me off
Yeah, I don't care. I have nothing against any asian races.

>>55413
>Ryan Dawson isn't a pure Amerindian
He's mixed. He also isn't pro - National Socialist. That doesn't mean he hasn't done his investigation. You're a mutt like he is. You shouldn't wave your hand away at his documentary on decades of deception. I admitted much of the link you provided was true.
>I thought "white" didn't exist according to you?
You thought wrong. "White" is a strawman of many peach-skinned nationalities. How many times do I need to say this before you absorb it?
>Generalizations are generally true, hence, called truisms.
So you can't drive a car without crashing it, eat nothing but fish, and participate in bizarre gameshows and you're insanely good at math. Good to know I guess.
>You do realize that I don't seek to play identity politics with you.
You play identity politics with the blanket "white" label. I understand why. To me, all Asians look the same. All of us white nationalities must look the same to you too.
>all tribes are guilty of enslavement of other groups at some time of their history
Not every single tribe that has every existed throughout history. Non-agrarian tribes had no use for slaves. Canadians and Australians have never had slaves. I'd be able to speak of more in world history if black slavery and white guilt wasn't consistently forced curriculum.
>It's a stupid way to terminate any thought provoking criticism with "lol you're not us".
<"white cucks"
<"white cucks"
<"white cucks"
>I'm North East Asian
Given that you don't trust the Chinese and disparaged all the asian races I know, I'm not sure which asian halves you are.
>I have a copy of Martin Luther's "On the Jews and their Lies"
I was raised in Lutheranism. He also believed that women don't have souls. Being wrong about one matter clearly did not exclude him from being wrong about the jews.


Anonymous 09/11/2017 (Mon) 05:46:41 Id: 4ea6be [Preview] No. 55418 del
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>Genetics doesn't always equate to "superior culture".
"the Master Race" was coined by William Shirer. This guy obtained his information from the jew Konrad Heiden, who emigrated from Germany in 1933 and wrote anti-Hitler propaganda. Adolf Hitler wasn't even aware of genetics. I've read Mein Kampf. He certainly did believe "the Aryan race" to be strong and great. He never referred to any "master race".
>your own special snowflake identity deserves superior recognition above all else
I don't even have an identity here. The fuck are you on about? What, AdolfHitler? I'm very obviously not him. That was an ironic way to mock the spammer as I planned on banning his ass, plus I defend Hitler. Other than that, no. No small mustache.
>Are you then admitting that Nazi propaganda also distorted with lies?
Distorted FROM lies TO THIS DAY. This is something they struggled with even when the NSDAP started. See this:
h ttp://research.calvin.edu/german-propaganda-archive/tatsachenundluegen.htm
>Are you admitting that you're bullshiting me with "truths" about the Jews by generalizing them
No. You're making a false accusation against me right now.
>there's people that doesn't want anything to do with Judaism, Israel
Those are not jews.
>being called a Jew by abandoning everything about their cultural group identity?
If I called you a nigger right now, would you be a nigger? That's name-calling. It doesn't mean the person is that name.
> If a Jew truly converts to Christianity, is it still a Jew or is it a crypto-kike?
That jew is a christian with ties to his Zionist friends and a penchant for greed torwards shekels. Example? Brother Nathanael. I haven't even seen street beggars kvetching so hard, and the man lives on a beautiful mountain retreat.
>it's merely an abuse of identification phenomenology by claiming to "be" a group without even contributing anything towards said group
>it's merely a facade of an identity, which then doesn't make it even a true identity
Jews are a false race, so obviously I agree. I've said this before and have been attacked on this forum for that position. Once again: Haplogroups R-M17 (R1a) and R-P25 (R1b) used to identify "Ashkenazi jews" are present in non-Ashkenazi Jewish populations and in non-Jewish Near Eastern populations. Then there are the Sephardi jews, which can mean either jews expelled from Spain and Portugal or "any non-Ashkenazi jew expelled from Muslim lands". The Jews of North Africa, their paternal haplotypes are almost equal to those of the Lebanese and Palestinian non-Jews. And then all other studies refer to either Ashkenazi or Sephardi origins.
>This same argument can be used against any and all tribes.
The difference is, the jew claims their religion is their genetic identity. Those of Israel believe their ethnic religious category is superior to others, as well as followers of the Talmud.

>>55414
>being this fucking stupid
Calm your tits Not all tribes had a caste system, slavery, and a feudal system.
>Literally all
>literally there's very few exceptions to this
>all
>but a few exceptions
>How do you blanket "non-white" as a label you hypocrite.
That's not a question. See these"?"? They're question marks.
>being this fucking stupid
:^)
Non-whites are people who are not of peach color skin. There are white races, but white is not a particular race. "The white race" is bullshit. There isn't just one, just as there isn't just a single non-white race.
>You do realize that Jews hate other Jews, right?
No shit. Jews despise other jews. They'd tear each other apart if non-jews, especially Palestinians, weren't there to keep them busy.
>All these other reasons jews are evil
You're helping, not hurting. Come on. Call me fucking stupid again.


Anonymous 09/11/2017 (Mon) 05:50:38 Id: 4ea6be [Preview] No. 55419 del
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>No, it NEVER HAPPENED.
>Germany had failed to get the international Jews back into Israel.
They got a great deal of jews into Israel. The Haavara agreement. Right up until the war effort and the bombing of supply lines by the British, which led to 15% of concentration inmates dying being jews.
>that very God claimed that they will never return to that land ever again
What? Are you saying there are no jews in Israel? Wake up. By 1978, the Germans paid out a total of 80 billion. Without the German reparations that started coming through during the first ten years as a state, Israel would not have half of its present infrastructure: All the trains in Israel are German, the ships are German, and the same goes for electrical installations and a great deal of Israel's industry, and that is setting aside the individual pensions paid to survivors. Israel receives hundreds of millions of dollars in German currency each year. In some years the sums of money received by Israel from Germany has been double or treble the contribution made by collections from international Jewry.
>there needs to be an opposite Hitler
What, like the jewish moshiach? Maybe you'll have this evil's birth on the 23rd.

>>55415
>I'm really not trying to be a dick here
Too late for that.
>he had send the Jews with a heavy sacrifice with the strict terms of letting them keep their wealth as they fuck off to Palestine
Wait. The fuck happened to "No, it NEVER HAPPENED"?
>The problem this time is that no country can really truly afford to do that anymore,
They actually could truly afford to eliminate all class, then eliminate all current currency and issue certificates for labor or contribution. It works. That is why they had to crush that economy, because the rich were afraid of losing their wealth and becoming equal to the "disgusting lower classes". Churchill especially.
>everyone's either a pussy or believe in higher ideations of which their barbaric neighbors don't believe in
>and abuse their enabling of which was slowly tweaked by the Jews through their interpretation of culture.
This is the problem. I'm for #openbordersforisrael by the way.


Anonymous 09/11/2017 (Mon) 07:52:53 Id: 88e217 [Preview] No. 55420 del
Circular reasoning, you think that Jews are evil because they believe in the Talmud when on the contrary, the Talmud enables them to believe anything, so a "Jew" doesn't have to believe at all that the Talmud is by any means true. Any and all religions when corrupted is evil.
>citation needed
You seriously don't know that "tribal sovereignty" is used to get away with making Indian casinos? Jews are envious of them in that regard.
>Malcom X is dead
So is Hitler, your argument is invalid.
>generalizing "asians" because you don't care yet get butthurt when "asians" that don't care about splintered european identitarian groups generalize all of them to be "white"
>insists on calling peach skinned
Does calling you a peach man make you feel any special? How many times do I need to say that "asian" doesn't exist just as "white" nor "black" doesn't because identity politics is also bullshit?
>So you can't drive a car without crashing it, eat nothing but fish, and participate in bizarre gameshows and you're insanely good at math. Good to know I guess.
Yes, that's generally true.
>To me, all Asians look the same. All of us white nationalities must look the same to you too.
I can tell the difference between North Europeans and South Europeans, but besides that, I generally assume that most red heads are Irish or perhaps white (I mean "peach") Berber africans which are lesser known by many. Hispanics and so called "white" people in Central and South America however, is harder to tell since they are more genetically not as "white". Same goes to so called "white" Aryan Indians in India, as well as Persians. Culture isn't DNA, DNA isn't culture. Identity politics however insist both and neither all at the same time for maximum devisiveness.
>Non-agrarian tribes
You mean hunters and gathering tribes that killed and/or raped those of other populations? Also, Australians treated "Aboriginals" less than a human like savages because they were cannibalistic savages. Canadians had dealt with Inuits and "Amerindians" (America as in the continent, not the USA) but they're both under the British Empire, are still technically Crown lands, just that the Prime Ministers rule for the Royal family's place, and they therefore still technically have a feudal system through a federal government.
>I'm not sure which asian halves you are.
It doesn't matter.


Anonymous 09/11/2017 (Mon) 07:53:14 Id: 88e217 [Preview] No. 55421 del
>Being wrong about one matter clearly did not exclude him from being wrong about the jews.
And who said that he was wrong? I sure didn't, that's your own delusional misinterpretation of what I meant.
>"the Master Race" was coined by William Shirer. This guy obtained his information from the jew Konrad Heiden, who emigrated from Germany in 1933 and wrote anti-Hitler propaganda. Adolf Hitler wasn't even aware of genetics. I've read Mein Kampf. He certainly did believe "the Aryan race" to be strong and great. He never referred to any "master race".
>Japanese people are honorary Aryans
Do you know what Imperial Japan tried to do to Korea (before it was called that)? They wanted to destroy the identity of all Koreans and claim that Koreans are as equals to Japanese people. In other words, Imperial Japan wanted to make a second Japan in Korea, and ideally, make all of East Asia "Japanese". That sure doesn't sound "Aryan" to me. That isn't to say that Japan didn't liberate some nations from British and French, even some levels of Communist control. I though Hitler also wanted the British to stop fighting them and even promising to protect them from Japan. I doubt that Hitler really sees them truly compatible to white-erm "peach-skinned" Aryans. By the way, if you're claiming that Hitler wasn't influenced by Nietzsche by any way, shape, or form, there's many that would claim otherwise. Please explain why they are wrong or why they are right.
>No. You're making a false accusation against me right now.
It's called a rhetorical question to convey the absurdity of the prior statement. I've said two rhetorical questions concerning what you've said to convey how that statement isn't always true. This is what you said: "Truths are distorted with lies. Corruption does the same to truth, as does ignorance. There is no such thing as truth being immune to such subversive tactics". With that logic, you can't even claim that you know the truth, which is therefore, a rejection of the trustworthiness of truth itself, which there's no real cure to such irrational logic.
>That "JEW" is a "CHRISTIAN"
A Jewish Christian is not a Christian, and a Christian Jew is not a Christian. As long as a "Jew" identity at any level to be "Jew", there are still Jews by their own admission.


Anonymous 09/11/2017 (Mon) 07:53:33 Id: 88e217 [Preview] No. 55422 del
>The difference is, the jew claims their religion is their genetic identity. Those of Israel believe their ethnic religious category is superior to others, as well as followers of the Talmud.
The "difference" is, X claims their religion is their genetic identity. Those of X believe their ethnic religious category is superior to others as well as followers of their sacred source, oral and/or written.
Replace X with any strong tribal religion. Polynesian cults, radical Norse paganism (like the lunatic Varg Vikernes), the more aggressive Amerindian tribes, Knights of the Golden Circle (KKK, Freemasonry), the controlled opposition alternative media conspiracy groups attempting to radicalize people to immediately take them down to pretend that whatever alphabet soup organization is doing the right thing when they were the ones creating the problem that they pretend to solve, any uncivilized tribe remaining that civilization hasn't destroyed yet that still practices cannibalism (like some tribes in the Amazonian jungle), and any crazy fuck cult that comes out. Any religion however, can be reinterpreted incorrectly to create a new cult that pretends to be its former self but isn't, like Constantinian Mithraic Christianity/Roman Catholicism which many still to this day seek to "deus vult" Protestant and other non Catholic cults. There's even an entirey false sect of Buddhism that had militarized Buddhism for politcal means called Mahayana Buddhism, which Kikepedia doesn't explain, yet it became the most popular form of Buddhism. The Christian bible itself claims that Christianity is superior to Judaism, had replaced Judaism, but it only meets half the criteria that you're looking for. Islam merely pretends to claim compatibility with both Christianity and Judaism, but they hate both and claim that Ismael and Esau inherited the blessing of Abraham, not Isaac and Jacob, and that only through the Muhammad who's an Ismaelite that only through his understanding can people come to "Allah" in full submission to the doctrines written in Arabic of which dialects and vowel points are missing of which Muslim scribes misinterpret to mean whatever they want it to and so there's multiple contradictory texts in ARABIC qurans.
>There are white races, but white is not a particular race. "The white race" is bullshit. There isn't just one, just as there isn't just a single non-white race.
It's really just a stupid argument over semantics at this point. There's a major race and various minor races beneath it. There is a Caucasoid/Europid race, and there's various minor caucasoid races. There is a Mongoloid race, and there's various minor mongoloid races.


Anonymous 09/11/2017 (Mon) 07:53:52 Id: 88e217 [Preview] No. 55423 del
>No, it NEVER HAPPENED.
>Germany had failed to get the international Jews back into Israel.
Do you know why? It's because international Jews are not merely in Germany, but globally. You claimed that Germany succeeded in sending all the Jews out of their land. That's partially true but you've missed my point. There needs a GLOBAL effort to get ALL the Jews out of politics and into one place where they can't harm anyone, but if there's such a GLOBAL government that can do that, it's essentially requires the effort of all of humanity to bully the Jews into a desert and keep them locked up while banning all Jewish nonsense globally until the world had truly forgotten the historical existence of the Jews. Shit never happened like that. It's my bad for not clarifying what I meant although I though I've explained what I meant. The compromise is the opposite Hitler as mentioned before here >>55073 >>55079
>They actually could truly afford to eliminate all class, then eliminate all current currency and issue certificates for labor or contribution. It works. That is why they had to crush that economy, because the rich were afraid of losing their wealth and becoming equal to the "disgusting lower classes".
>"afford"
Is that an intentional pun? Also, do you seriously think that a monoclass can be formed within a multicultural nation like the US? There will be ethnic class divisions among each other. How is that a preservation of culture? It needs to destroy the old culture for a new one yet it cannot resolve the ethnic differences between each other, while it is inevitable that certain ethnic races are better than others and so the ones that can't assimilate or catch up will find themselves with a dillema of being uncomfortable among people of other ethnicities. A monoclass civic national socialism is impractical and also impossible unless there's a global program to redistribute all racial populations to their historical origins of which many that had contributed to a former system won't like to move nor even adhere to the new political paradigm.


Anonymous 09/11/2017 (Mon) 11:05:04 Id: c0e4ad [Preview] No. 55426 del
>>55403
>because evil isn't dependent on genetic DNA

Psychopathy is. So are certain defects that make people have perpetual inferiority complexes which make them want to destroy anyone not having those defects. And having delusions of everyone being equal in subhumanity instead of pursuing the ideal of the superman.

Archetype of evil manifests in people who have the right conditions for it to flourish. Jews, with their unique combination of genetic traits, and memetic traits (culture, religion), are the group most susceptible to it. It was a mutual feedback loop of the most toxic genes (they are mutts as well), and most toxic culture that had created the ultimate anti-race. Not accidentally of course.

White, or Aryan archetype is the opposite of that. A combination of healthy genes and the ideal of the superman.

That doesn't mean that all Jews are evil, nor that all whites are good, it just means that certain combinations of genes and culture are much more likely to produce evil people, just as certain ones are much more likely to produce good. Of course, I use "good" and "evil" in a very simplified manner here just to get a point across without autistically cluttering the thread with definitions.

Having that cleared out, removing Jews from positions of power and influence would have a largely beneficial effect to this world. And yes, that would require all the nations in the world to unite against a common threat and the most parasitical element. For that, nations would have to exist in the first place. Because Jews are already mutts, the ultimate mutts.


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>>55420
>the Talmud enables them to believe anything
Jews consider the Talmud as "how the Torah is to be interpreted". Mormons revere the Talmud as well. "Anything"? I find it strange you claim to have read Martin Luther's "On the jews and their lies".
Libbre David 37
"A Jew should and must make a false oath when the Goyim asks if our books contain anything against them."
Zohar, Toldoth Noah 63b
"When the Messiah comes every Jew will have 2800 slaves."
Mas. Shabbath 31b
"On the house of the Goy [Goy means unclean, and is the disparaging term for a non-Jew] one looks as on the fold of cattle."
Sanhedrin 58b
"If a goy killed a goy or a Jew he is responsible, but if a Jew killed a goy he is not responsible."
Sanhedrin 57a
"A Jew may rob a Goy, but a Goy may not rob a Jew. If a Goy murders another Goy or a Jew, he should be killed, but a Jew will not be incur the death penalty for killing a non-Jew. Kill the Goyim by any means possible."
Yalkut 245c
"Tob shebbe goyyim harog - Even the best of the Goyim (Gentiles) should be killed."
>You seriously don't know that "tribal sovereignty" is used to get away with making Indian casinos?
>the jews are envious
That has nothing to do with "some Amerindians are crypto kikes or are shabbos goyim". You need to connect the dots.
<Malcom X is dead
>So is Hitler, your argument is invalid.
Is English your second language? You said "Malcom X doesn't see himself as African." I never said "Hitler doesn't see himself etc." Malcom X cannot presently see. That was my point. Obviously neither can Hitler.
>yet get butthurt when "asians" that don't care about splintered european identitarian groups generalize all of them to be "white"
You obviously do care, when you call every white nationality cucks.
>Does calling you a peach man make you feel any special?
lol. I feel so peachy special right now.
>How many times do I need to say that "asian" doesn't exist
It does though. You live in North East Asia. "Asian" is a blanket identity as much as "white" or "caucasian". Denying your nationality as an identity isn't as crazy as claiming genders don't exist, but it's up there.
>besides that, I generally assume that most red heads are Irish
Not all gingers are Irish. I've known some ginger Scots. Some would argue they came from the same Celtic origins.
>Hispanics
These people are 41% indo-european and yet hate white people with a force higher than the media influenced blacks. There was a Mexican on my street who was half Irish, and still "hates white people".
>Australians treated "Aboriginals" less than a human like savages because they were cannibalistic savages
> Canadians had dealt with Inuits and "Amerindians"
Treating bad =/= slavery.
<asian halves
>It doesn't matter.
It does though.
>And who said that he was wrong?
<Martin Luther on the jews
You failed to connect the dots between Martin Luther being wrong on one subject and right on another with Ryan Dawson being wrong on Pizzagate but right about decades of deception.
>They wanted to destroy the identity of all Koreans and claim that Koreans are as equals to Japanese people.
Why would you not be for that? You're against "identity".
>That sure doesn't sound "Aryan" to me.
I don't think you understand what the term "honorary" means.
>I doubt that Hitler really sees them truly..
Hitler's dead. Here's that present-tense problem again.
>if you're claiming that Hitler wasn't influenced by Nietzsche by any way, shape, or form
Hitler was a well-read man of genius that could talk about many technical subjects on a whim. I would never say he wasn't influenced by Nietzsche.
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>With that logic, you can't even claim that you know the truth
Wrong. My point was that truth can be distorted with lies. This is a universal truth. Corruption distorts truth. Ignorance distorts truth. Truth is not immune to lies, corruption or ignorance. That does not make every spoken truth a lie. It means you should be suspicious of anything and investigate everything.


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>A Jewish Christian is not a Christian, and a Christian Jew is not a Christian
But a jewish christian still identifies as an ethnic jew and support their tribe over others. Brother Nathanael puts on a big show that he was raised jew but hates jews. However, he shills very hard for the jew Vladimir Putin and Russia. Typical jewish tricks.

>>55422
>The "difference" is, X claims their religion is their genetic identity.
>Those of X believe their ethnic religious category is superior to others
>Replace X with any strong tribal religion.
Okay. Christians claim their religion is their genetic identity. Those of christianity believe their ethnic religious category is superior to others. Well, that doesn't work. There are many races that follow Christianity. Hold on, lets try another. Catholics claim their religion is their genetic identity. Those of catholicism believe their ethnic religious category is superior to others. No, that doesn't work either.
>It's really just a stupid argument over semantics at this point.
Nationality isn't "stupid semantics". Your ancestors are responsible for your very existence. They deserve respect. Unless you're one of those self-hating types.
>There is a Caucasoid/Europid race
That's a historical race classification meant to be used for purposes of archaeology. I'm sick of it, frankly. All the other races get their specific categories. On applications, we get "Caucasian". Not Scottish, Irish, Italian, Swedish, English, German, French, Norwegian, Finnish, Russian, Italian, Spanish (think that's wrong? look at Spaniard royal families), etc.

>>55423
>international Jews are not merely in Germany, but globally.
>You claimed that Germany succeeded in sending all the Jews out of their land.
Germany=/=Global
>There needs a GLOBAL effort to get ALL the Jews out of politics and into one place where they can't harm anyone
You're a strange duck. On one side, you defend the hell out of jews so much that I have to point out their subversiveness. On the other, you're against them.
>if there's such a GLOBAL government that can do that, it's essentially requires the effort of all of humanity
That was the problem. International jewry was on a much larger scale than just Germany, and Hitler only had control of Germany and their territories.
>the opposite Hitler
>>55079 is me. I believe one day, the jews will feel so safe in their power they'll let their guard down, and then the followers of the religion of Islam will invade and crush them. I can only hope the Israeli effort to get all jews to migrate to Israel is successful at that point.
>US
>There will be ethnic class divisions among each other.
There is no solution for the U.S. All nationalities should be returned to their individual countries, and the Muslims to theirs.
> yet it cannot resolve the ethnic differences between each other
Not with the jew media playing one side against the other, and villainizing "white cis males" most of all.
>unless there's a global program to redistribute all racial populations to their historical origins
Exactly.
>many that had contributed to a former system won't like to move
I believe they would prefer to be among their own kind. Even those of non-white nationalities in America have their own particular racial loyalties. It would get better without jew media constantly preventing anything but ethnic and class warfare.
All of my points matter little, because Europe is being overrun and we'd have nowhere left to migrate
This is why I support #openbordersforisrael
That would be jew genocide.


Anonymous 09/11/2017 (Mon) 17:25:56 Id: d32312 [Preview] No. 55434 del
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>>55421
>A Jewish Christian is not a Christian, and a Christian Jew is not a Christian. As long as a "Jew" identity at any level to be "Jew", there are still Jews by their own admission.

That's false. All the original Christians were Jewish. Only Jews are capable of being full Christian.

And the first gentile convert to Christianity was an Ethiopian eunuch, so black Africans were the original gentile Christians.


Anonymous 09/11/2017 (Mon) 17:46:16 Id: c27ed5 [Preview] No. 55439 del
>>55434
>Only Jews are capable of being full Christian.
This is pure heresy.


Anonymous 09/12/2017 (Tue) 00:24:08 Id: 88e217 [Preview] No. 55450 del
>>55426
>Psychopathy
The problem with (((psychology))) is that they make up any excuses to make the Juden look smart and then blame their result for supposed genetic inbreeding of specific desired traits that was culturally brought upon them that rewired how they think through their upbringing that makes them incapable of understanding an ontological right from wrong through religious and/or cultural epistemological suppositions that predetermines a limited set conclusions. Jews are quasi isolationists just like Japan. A general higher average IQ leads to more people with depression and psychotic breakdowns. S. Korea and Japan have high suicide rates because of numerous issues. International Jews have an image to set up unlike Israeli Jews which they're a growing number of jaded people that no longer thinks of themselves as Jews and only have legal documentation claiming that they're Israelis when they just want to live on with their lives and doesn't want to stand out of the crowd. S. Korea is more open to other cultures and they're more cucked than Japan with the Muslim population ever growing in Korea while Japan won't give them job permits and tries to give no grounds for them to exist without illegal underground support. I am not saying that Jews have high IQs, I'm saying that the International Jews being pressured to have "chutzpah" are forced to study and study to get good grades and pass tests, while if they don't they blackmail the teachers and professors with "antisemitism" shit, hence, securing their facade, of which is their own enemy and source of their psychopathy, they are not who they think they are anymore, they are disillusioned by the concept of identity whether national, genetic, religious, political, but because the Jew is out of their environment, they are more inclined to externalize their anger just as that Virginia Tech shooter, while if they were among themselves, they are more inclined to internalize their anger to not disgrace their own. A stronger case can be made that International Jews are more psychotic than Israeli Jews, but the rich and/or political Jews among them are most of the source of their political and national contributor to their psychopathy. Any so called genetic factors of psychopathy requires external DNA to intermingle in the gene pool. Black Americans as well any many other black people that were brought into their various countries by the British Jews and Muslim pirates are never 100% "African", they have some white genes in them while they've interbred with various African tribes and so aren't really "African". That being said, any geneticist will tell you that there's no such thing as a purebred, there's always some genes that came from some other place. Alt-kikes insists that those gene testing shit is wrong and make white people look like they're part Jew, but the fact of the matter is, if you're white (especially either Germanic, Norman, or Iberian), the probability of having some genes associated with sephardic or ashkenazi people are more probable than you think because of the symbiotic parasitic nature of the concept of a Jew which all historical Judeans died out while the progenitors of the Pharisaic cult is fundamentally a proselyte religion.


Anonymous 09/12/2017 (Tue) 00:24:30 Id: 88e217 [Preview] No. 55451 del
>>55426
Therefore, this so called "psychopathy" is relative to who defines it, and the circumstantial scenarios that they're in case by case. A 1/4th Jew, a 1/8th Jew, they don't have much of the proported genetic psychopathy in them, yet they insist on being a Jew or at least partially a Jew by genetic association. Also, people who thought that they are say, pure Italian for example, when they did a DNA test, they end up having genes of other white races. Genetics don't explain much, rather, creates more speculation as to the concept of a genetic race itself. It's harder to objectively know about it, just as humanity can't objectively know if they're aliens from another space colony or if they're formed out of a primordial soup since no human was objectively there to see it happen, while the same question is applied to the alien space colony's origins as to where they've come from. What genetics do explain is that there's no truly isolated original genetic source of all genes that isn't present in other cultural races. Everyone's related to each other, and as proof of this any two people of random genetic background can make a baby, humanity has yet to be truly be divided into a distinct sub species with incompatible number of chromosomes, and so there's no general "humanoid" group that are like us but have slightly less or more chromosomes or something yet not being a genetic mutation nor a defect nor retarded, etc., though the genetic deviation between a black man and a white man is as far from each other as a chihuahua from a gray wolf. By the way, if you claim that the genetic base of the Jew is evil, then so are the Greeks, the Persians, even the Indians that claim some historical ancestry with the Israelites. h ttp://w ww.hermetics.org/Abraham2.html


Anonymous 09/12/2017 (Tue) 01:55:25 Id: 88e217 [Preview] No. 55453 del
>>55432
>That has nothing to do with "some Amerindians are crypto kikes or are shabbos goyim". You need to connect the dots.
Here's kikepedia: "As of 2011, there were 460 gambling operations run by 240 tribes, with a total annual revenue of $27 billion." 460 divided by 27 billion, still makes lots of millionaires and to not suspect any Jew want nothing to do with them is an understatement.

Have you heard about the Dakota Access Pipeline project? Lots of Jews and Shabbos goy were paid to protest there by the likes of George Soros for the Standing Rock Sioux.

BTW, Iowa is pronounced yehouwah, and there's various tribes as well as (((historians))) that claim a potential Israelite or Jewish connection between some American Indian tribes, while there's some anomolies like the Los Lunas Decalogue Stone, the Bat Creek inscription which are claimed to be hoaxes by some, authentic by others. Again, not claiming that they all wuz jews n shiet, but Phoenician settlement did happen. h ttps://w ww.mtholyoke.edu/offices/comm/vista/9606/4.html Carthagians are Phonicians are Canaanites are distant cousins to historical Israelites.

>Malcom X cannot presently see. That was my point. Obviously neither can Hitler.
Then what was the point of that point, it seems to deny the hard reality that Black Americans have little to no understanding nor culture to their ancestral roots, which my point was Black Americans aren't Africans in the cultural sense. Malcom denied his last name to be his because that's his descendant's slave master's last name, but he didn't deny his first name either because he was Black American. He doesn't believe in the erroneous use of "African-American" to be applicable to most Black Americans while African immigrants that come to the US don't really see themselves culturally Americans. Also, because for many hundreds of years, the black slaves contributed to mercantilism as well as the industrial revolution of the US is greatly based on the free labor economy abused through slavery that although the Jews were mostly their slave masters, had contributed to the Northern colonies/states that used the raw materials that they've picked to be made into usable products. It wasn't until a white man called Eli Whitney made a machine that replaces manual cottonpicking which removed the use of slavery and unnecessary manual labor of which it was cheaper to use machines than to use slaves overall. Slavery was allowed in the Christian bible, which even though the Jews were the major owners of slaves, the white Northern colonies weren't too "holier than thou" to cooperate with the condeferate Jewish corporations that held more allegiance to the British. Only crazy sects like the Quakers took in slaves and treated as true equals. The solution to slavery and even labor itself is innovative, creative inventions and discoveries of natural principles, of which the machines and elements formed from those machines are merely extensions of labor at a higher efficiency.


Anonymous 09/12/2017 (Tue) 01:58:31 Id: 88e217 [Preview] No. 55454 del
>>55432
>You live in North East Asia.
You assume too much. Asia is not a continent, Eurasia is. Borders are merely concepts that are imposed upon people regardless of actual genetic distribution of people. Technically, all of Europe is west Eurasia, while India is its own continent that's just shoving into the Eurasian continent in forming the Himalayas. There's two reasons why Europe and Asia are historically treated as two different places: The Byzantine Empire keeping out the Turks where the west of Constantinople is "Europa", while the east is Asia and everything else. The second reason is an entirely Jewish/Christian conception of Judaea, especially Jerusalem being the center of the world, which the NW of Jerusalem being Europe/ "Japheth", SW of Jerusalem being Africa/"Ham", and E of Jerusalem being Asia/Arabia/"Shem". Nationality on a piece of paper that says you're a X citizen means nothing, while being ethnically descended from a group of people that identify as a specific nationality doesn't mean you are of that nation's citizenship to this day by jus sanguinis. White Americans are Americans, and if they want a European citizenship, they have to go through their specific system to apply for citizenship. Dual/multi-citizenship people are asinine to me, they are playing identity politics, and that's what some International Jews do in having physical paper proof of being more loyal to one over the other. Anyone with dual citizenship have played favorites, they'll switch whenever one becomes shittier than the other.
>You failed to connect the dots between Martin Luther being wrong on one subject and right on another with Ryan Dawson being wrong on Pizzagate but right about decades of deception.
Irrelevant, you've failed to understand why I've even brought up the fact I have read and have a physical copy of Martin Luther's book: I hate Jews, BUT, ontological evil transcends all tribal evils, it's the only medium that is used between conflicting identities that is invoked to DO evil for the greater evil disguised as a greater good through groupthink, and so falling for the groupthink evil makes one blind from the greater evil that strong tribalism invokes.
>Wrong. My point was that truth can be distorted with lies. This is a universal truth. Corruption distorts truth. Ignorance distorts truth. Truth is not immune to lies, corruption or ignorance. That does not make every spoken truth a lie. It means you should be suspicious of anything and investigate everything.
That is an insufficient method to come to know the truth, as well as the denial of absolute truth because anything and everything is potentially corrupted and such, so again, it's not a legitimate way to come to the truth.


Anonymous 09/12/2017 (Tue) 02:11:52 Id: 88e217 [Preview] No. 55458 del
>>55432
The Talmud gives the power of interpretation to the Rabbi, and so the Rabbi is above God, above the law, above the Talmud even, for nothing's above the Rabbi. Also, according to the Talmud, even if a Jew stops believing in God and whatever, they're still considered to be Jews. That's quite an unfair claim for those that want to stop identifying as a Jew.
>I don't think you understand what the term "honorary" means
It's not literal "Aryan", but my point was that not even Hitler would had sought to deprive non Germanic people to adopt "Positive Christianity" which isn't Christianity at all but a religious excuse to make Germany look "Christian" despite most of the Christians (including Catholics) didn't vote for Hitler.
>>55433
>But a jewish christian
A Jewish Christian is a Jew, NOT A CHRISTIAN, there's no middle ground stance, and Milton Kapner is not a Christian.
>Nationality isn't "stupid semantics". Your ancestors are responsible for your very existence.
Taken out of context, I meant genetic race, not cultural race, and nationality isn't entirely genetic nor cultural, but it's many times more cultural than genetic.
>Germany=/=Global
Of course it isn't, that was my point.
>There is no solution for the U.S. All nationalities should be returned to their individual countries, and the Muslims to theirs.
That isn't going to happen any time soon, not in your lifetime. You can however, do that yourself, move back to your ancestral origins, or forever dream in delusional melancholy.
>It would get better without jew media constantly preventing anything but ethnic and class warfare.
The mob mentality is terrible in any scale, which nations are just herds of sheeple on a bigger scale. True love is blind, and so is hate.


Anonymous 09/12/2017 (Tue) 02:31:21 Id: 88e217 [Preview] No. 55459 del
>>55458
h ttps://biblicalculture.wordpress.com/2014/01/12/the-story-of-rabbi-eliezer/
h ttp://w ww.chabad.org/library/article_cdo/aid/352329/jewish/The-Walls-of-the-Study-Hall.htm
The Story of Rabbi Eliezer shows the psychotic mindset expressed and written in the Babylonian Talmud that the Rabbis had concerning "proof" that Rabbis can't be wrong about the interpretation of the written law and of course ultimately the oral law itself that these Pharisees call "Torah" in not explaining which "Torah", but implying the "Oral Torah". Essentially, The Talmud in essense is oral as in nothing is "written in stone", the law is whatever Rabbis say it is, and depending on how lenient a Rabbi's opinion is, they can claim anything and still be "Rabbinical". Even though there's various sects of Pharisaism, they're all abusing the very deceptive nature of Pharisaism itself in making up any lies to justify whatever the Rabbis claim to be justifiable or unjustifiable.


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>>55453
I really don't give a shit about red-skins. Personally, I knew one since highschool until I was 34 years old. That woman would blame every ridiculous racist accusation on me by other people before I was racist. Then one day, she killed herself and left behind three children. With two children and a wife of my own, I was disgusted with her behavior. Her kind blame the white man for the sadism of that kike from Genoa, Christoforo Columbo.
"On August 3,1492, Christopher Columbus set sail for India, searching for a new route to the Orient. But unlike most ship captains, he did not permit his sailors one last night carousing on the town before their long journey into the unknown. Atypically, Columbus demanded that all crew members board his three ships by 11:00 P.M., the day before sail­ing—on August 2. It just so happens that after midnight on August 2, it became illegal for a Jew to remain on Spanish soil. By order of King Ferdinand and Queen Isabella, the Spanish expulsion of the Jews began one hour after Columbus ordered his men to be on board—the day before sailing." - h ttp://w ww.momentmag.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/Christopher-Columbus.pdf
>it's not a legitimate way to come to the truth
That is only a matter of your opinion. It takes a certain amount of instinct to arrive at truth through the sea of lies.

>>55454
>most of the Christians (including Catholics) didn't vote for Hitler
Which jewish or nigger author, or cucked German historian have you been following? You can't know the religion of all voters in a system. This had to be some made up bullshit. I really don't give a damn about religious politics. It is a mistake to discuss religion on this board. As for votes:
April 1925 - National Socialists had 3 seats in the Reichstag parliament
September 14, 1930 - In the general election Hitler receives 6,406,000 votes, raises National Socialist representation in the Reichstag from 12 to 107 seats.
March 13, 1932 - First Ballot in the Presidential Election: Von Hindenburg, 18.6 million, i.e., 49.6 per cent of the votes; Hitler, 11.3 million, i.e., 30.0 per cent of the votes.
April 10, 1932 - Second Ballot in the German Presidential Election: Hindenburg, 19.3 million, i.e., 53 per cent of the votes; Hitler, 13.4 million, i.e., 36 per cent of the votes.
July 31, 1932 - Reichstag elections: Nazi party, 13,722,413 votes, 229 seats; Socialists, 7,949,883 votes, 132 seats; Communists, 5,276,887 votes, 88 seats.
November 6, 1932 - Another general election reduces the 229 seats of Hitler to 195, while the Communists increase theirs from 88 to 100.
January 30, 1933 - Hindenburg asks Hitler to become Chancellor in a National Socialist-Conservative coalition Government.

>>55458
>A Jewish Christian is a Jew, NOT A CHRISTIAN
>Milton Kapner is not a Christian
K.
<Germany=/=Global
>Of course it isn't, that was my point.
My point was that Hitler didn't give a damn about reforming the outside world. Time and again, he spoke of restoring Germany. He wanted the rest of the world to leave them alone. Of course with advancing (#3 worldwide population of jews) Soviet troops making their presences known as they prepared for war, just as the (#1 worldwide population of jews) Polish did, they egged him into pre-emptive strikes.
>You can however, do that yourself, move back to your ancestral origins, or forever dream in delusional melancholy.
You mean move back to a Muslim invaded country where very few of my original nationality are left. I would have to be delusional. It's already lost, and only a matter of time until they're wiped out.


Anonymous 09/12/2017 (Tue) 11:42:57 Id: 88e217 [Preview] No. 55466 del
>>55465
Southern Europe don't have "peach" skin, they're more "olive" due to their affinity to the Mediterranian sea as merchants from all over meet them, while some Muslims became converts to Christianity because the Spaniards were simply savage in a positive sense, while Turks invaded Eastern europe many times, and the French loved the Moors, called them amore.
>matter of opinion
>instinct
>instinct = truth
Yeah, no.
>Which jewish or nigger author, or cucked German historian have you been following?
A Germanic Austrian by the name of Erik von Kuehnelt-Leddihn. I should had clarified, most of the Catholics didn't vote for Hitler, the Lutherans however might had. h ttps://mises.org/system/tdf/Liberty%20or%20Equality%20The%20Challenge%20of%20Our%20Time_4.pdf?file=1&type=document By all means, please prove to me that Positive Christianity didn't hate Catholicism, it shouldn't be that hard since the Catholic church did protect some Nazi politicians with church immunity and such, not to mention that the Third Reich was made official by the Catholic church.
>You mean move back to a Muslim invaded country where very few of my original nationality are left. I would have to be delusional. It's already lost, and only a matter of time until they're wiped out.
Well then, I think I've proven my point here about my original statement, but nevermind that, I assume you're technically on a piece of paper an American or at least in an Anglo-Saxon nation. How are you going to do the impossible? You don't have to tell me anyways, it's all up to you as to what you do with your life. Good luck with that, no sarcasm here. You're up against the whole millitary complex and practically everything else. The only way to beat a kike at its own game is to outkike the kike.


Anonymous 09/12/2017 (Tue) 16:24:47 Id: 084987 [Preview] No. 55469 del
>>55458
>A Jewish Christian is a Jew, NOT A CHRISTIAN, there's no middle ground stance, and Milton Kapner is not a Christian.

Jews founded Christianity. All of the original Christians were Jews.

If you're not a Jewish, then you can't be a real Christian.


Anonymous 09/12/2017 (Tue) 16:55:16 Id: 4ea6be [Preview] No. 55471 del
>>55466
>Southern Europe don't have "peach" skin, they're more "olive"
Clearly, you haven't been to northern regions of European countries. White nationalities tend to flock north more often than south.
<instinct = truth
>Yeah, no.
You use your instincts to tell between fact and fiction every day. How else were you able to speak of what is right and wrong in your scientific rebuttals? I mean of course, that diatribe you rambled off to that guy asking about Sliders that I have no ability to understand.
>Erik von Kuehnelt-Leddihn
The man was biased against National Socialism because he could not return to Austria. In a similar fashion, Otto Strauser made up lies about Hitler's half-niece Geli Raubal. He also said Hitler ate shit, and the niece incest theory was perpetuated by the pro-holocaust imbecile Ian Kershaw. Strauser's failure as left wing NSDAP to break up Hitler's side led him to these furious accusations. You need to give attention to motive before you believe narratives.
>I assume you're technically on a piece of paper an American.
That piece of paper is a birth certificate. My ancestors arrived here through Ellis Island, as did many other white nationalities.
>How are you going to do the impossible?
I haven't decided what I'm going to do about the jewish problem.
>You're up against the whole millitary complex and practically everything else.
I agree with that.
>The only way to beat a kike at its own game is to outkike the kike.
Given how JFK's alleged assassin was shot by Jacob Rubenstein, GLR's American Nazi party was infiltrated by jew Dan Burros, and General Patton was struck two separate times by U.S. Army trucks before he was injected with an empty needle in the hospital, yeah. I believe the only way to outjew the jew is to resort to the same shady, underhanded tactics they utilize themselves. This is the problem with white nationalities (not to be confused with CIA constructed "white nationalists"). We're too noble a people. We fight honorably. That shit needs to change. Control over propaganda, subversiveness, and covert killings are the ways of the jews.

I believe the rabid gun-toting states would be a good start to bring over. Even the FBI who removed the other subversive covert killing organization, the wop mafia, and left only the families that allied with jewish mafia, are afraid of those states where everyone is likely to be packing heat.


Anonymous 09/13/2017 (Wed) 00:10:04 Id: c0e4ad [Preview] No. 55489 del
>>55450
No one ever implied absolute genetic purity, what matters are the dominant genetic traits. You share a huge chunk of DNA with a banana, yet you are not a banana, nor a pig, nor a Jew even if you share some ancestry with them.

>while if they don't they blackmail the teachers and professors with "antisemitism"

I highly doubt this. More likely, the professors are Jews themselves, or simply get bribed. Or, Jews can afford good private teachers as a group that's more wealthy on average. Or, they get bad grades but that doesn't stop them from being given good positions in society by their cousins.

>>55451
DNA never goes alone, it's always a mutual feedback loop with culture/memes. "Jewish" culture/religion reinforces selection of certain DNA, certain DNA is more susceptible to certain culture et cetera.

I'd suggest you try to find some qualities in your own genetic material (even if you are a mutt) instead of buying that one race crap. Maybe different races are destined to evolve into distinct species (which has been happening since forever), but (((someone))) wants to prevent that from happening. You had different environments shaping different races until (((globalism))) happened.

And you throw around the word "ontological" too much all while ignoring the tangible qualities of existence which shows that you don't really understand it.

Yes, yes, everything is relative and there are no true values and objective truth. Why bother with anything then? Why don't you just kill yourself already and reach that bliss of self-negation that you seek so much? Or maybe somewhere deep down you are aware that true "oneness" is not possible and that attempts to get closer to it will only intensify your suffering as you devolve into less complex, and more common forms of existence, until ironically, you become the very lifeless matter that you seek to run away from.


Anonymous 09/13/2017 (Wed) 01:18:36 Id: 88e217 [Preview] No. 55496 del
>>55471
>That piece of paper is a birth certificate. My ancestors arrived here through Ellis Island, as did many other white nationalities.
>calls Canadians a race
>refuses to call America a race
k.
>The man was biased against National Socialism because he could not return to Austria.
Ergo, you can't take any criticism.
>Given how JFK's alleged assassin was shot by Jacob Rubenstein
The shooters are not the masterminds behind the whole deal, and most of them weren't Jewish even though of course the Jews had a stake at it, so did the British intelligensia.
>We're too noble a people. We fight honorably.
Then the war was lost before it even started.
>>55489
And a mouse is 80% related to humans, and the same can be said to chimps. A human and a human giving birth to a human is still a human, it's never not a human, and so there's no recessive genetic traits of nonhuman de-evolution. Evolution is as stupid as creationism in being unable to objectively answer whether the chicken or the egg came first.

Take note that I never said "one race", besides just right now in quotations. Subspecies are still compatible with each other, while if they aren't they become separate species incompatible with each other. This is biological fact. There's no "one race", there is however an existential one species of humans with many subspecies beneath it. Saying "maybe" doesn't justify anything, as speculation isn't the truth.

There's two types of ontology: metaphysical ontology and physical ontology. Physical ontology doesn't recognize metaphysical ontology while metaphysical ontology recognizes itself and its emanation which includes physical ontology. True love and true hate is relative, but ontology is not relative. The only true value is metaphysical/spiritual, not physical/existential, for it is from the noetic eidos of which the form of true value is conceptualized in the metaphysical. Stuff like honor, justice, liberty, they're ideations, not electrical synapses firing up. Object-ive truth is ultimately dependent on subject-ive truth, but this subject is the Nous, not the Psyche, it's because the higher subject predetermine how it creates as it's "preconscious", it "preconsciously" created Kaos/psyche tou pantos and extended itself as an near infinite rays of Psyche/conscious outside of itself. It's this higher subject that determines the illusion of objective truths. The rejection of the higher subject leads to the rejection of the divine principle, and so the rejection of the noumenon and claiming in blind faith that only the phenomenon is all that there is. Only Nihilists kill themselves, for they are cursed with the existential disease that will keep them reliving physical life over and over again, hypocritically being their own cause to their suffering in multiple iterations. You clearly had failed to understand Monism to this day in making such foolish claims of your own projections of ignorance onto me. Also take note that I am not in one hand "promoting" miscegenation, but on the other hand, I don't believe in cultural identity, for it objectifies humanity. That isn't to say thatthe illusion of cultural identity isn't without objective reason, it's without subjective reason in the denial of the divine principle. We are all ultimately extensions of the one higher subject which is already united with the one unmanifest potential, but many people alive just don't get why because they don't know how to come to know something through what they don't know to come to know what it actually is. There is an objective identity, but to then deny the subjective one to justify the objective one is worse than agnosis, but it's atheos, rejection of the divine principle, which atheos is agnosis reified, ignorant of their own ignorance in claiming fooilish nonsense, while Creationists are equally wrong as atheos for objectifying the spiritual subject with crap like transubstantiation and the Christian misconception of the Trinity.


Anonymous 09/13/2017 (Wed) 01:29:23 Id: 88e217 [Preview] No. 55497 del
>>55496
By the way, the Spanish inquisition never really happen, there weren't "millions" of Jews murdered, they were mostly converted to Catholicism by force, while behind closed doors, they practiced Talmudic Pharisaism. Only about 100 or so Jews were caught, so it really hardly happened the way Protestants claim it did. They were called Marranos, and they were "crypto-Jews". They had merged with the persecuted Templar Knights that became the four knighthoods of the Kingdom of Aragon and later formed the Jesuit Order with the help of the Venetians. The Cult of San Rocco is in Veneto, and it was the proto-Jesuit Order before they became the Jesuit Order.


Anonymous 09/13/2017 (Wed) 02:08:47 Id: 4ea6be [Preview] No. 55498 del
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>>55496
Did I call Canadians a race? Let me check.
>Canadians and Australians have never had slaves.
Looks like I never said that.
>refuses to call America a race
Do you know anything about America? Anything at all?
>Ergo, you can't take any criticism.
<nobody with the motive to be furious at a particular organization ever crafted lies
The German/jewish holocaust hoax and the majority of jewpedia's "sources" for WW2 anti-German propaganda prove otherwise. Since that link to 8cucks consistently 404s, try this one:
h ttps://8ch.pl/hitler/res/27.html
>The shooters are not the masterminds behind the whole deal
No, the jews were. Here, since you refused to see link by Ryan Dawson I've cut it down for you. Not that it matters. Obviously, motive is not important to you.
>Then the war was lost before it even started.
It is. White nationalities will most likely be wiped out in the not so distant future. Why pay attention to the furious reasons WW2 authors have for deception, or the reason angry jews would have to eliminate JFK? No, simply avert your eyes and everything will be A-OK.


Anonymous 09/13/2017 (Wed) 03:02:13 Id: 88e217 [Preview] No. 55500 del
>>55496
Genetic identity is a misnomer since there has yet to be any pure clones with the exact same DNA sequence of which the probability of two people having the same DNA sequence is practically infinitesimally small. Everybody is 100% genetically different by at least one different genome sequencing than someone else. There are "similarities" between certain groups of people and people are biologically inclined to love one group over another, but at the same time, love isn't merely genetic, it's also conceptual, which love overrides genetic dispositions or even goes along with it, which women are more prone to abandon their genetic race and cultural identity than men.

>>55498
In context, I said tribe, you responded with cultural identities and nations as a tribe. You're responded to ">all tribes are guilty of enslavement of other groups at some time of their history". Let me define "tribe" to be strong tribalism, affinity to genetic association over national association. Canada are mostly a bunch of Anglos and French, and so are a gathering of tribes.
>Do you know anything about America?
That's what I'm asking you.
><nobody with the motive to be furious at a particular organization ever crafted lies
>grouping Erik von Kuehnelt-Leddihn with Otto Strauser and Ian Kershaw
>not knowing anything about Erik
You probably didn't read the free pdf that I linked to h ttps://mises.org/system/tdf/Liberty%20or%20Equality%20The%20Challenge%20of%20Our%20Time_4.pdf?file=1&type=document in its entirety nor look at the sources used. If you're going to debunk him you need to claim that his citation about Catholics not voting for Hitler to be false because X, Y, Z reasons, not because lol he hates Hitler ergo he's wrong kind of excuses.
>Obviously, motive is not important to you.
I'm saying that the motive isn't exclusively Jewish, it's also EQUALLY everyone else, the Italian mafia, Wall Street, the British controlled CIA that JFK tried to dismantle, even if they're "shabbos goy" from the perspective of a Jew, it's not "THE ONLY RIGHT PERSPECTIVE" nor MOTIVE behind why those that AREN'T JEWS seek what Jews also seek MUTUALLY. Killing someone is innocent REGARDLESS of who does it, it's not "MORE EVIL" because a Jew does it no less than it's not "MORE EVIL" because any conspirators with a evil motive does it. There's no superior perspective in matters of conspiracy, all reasons are equally valid reasons to the ultimate result of the event used to justify it, valid for the perpetrators themselves.
>It is.
Well you've confirmed it yourself in different words, yet we all don't like to admit the hard facts.


Anonymous 09/13/2017 (Wed) 03:25:00 Id: 4ea6be [Preview] No. 55503 del
>>55500
<Do you know anything about America?
>That's what I'm asking you.
I've lived here my entire life for over 36 years. Pretty sure I'm aware that America's not a race. Canadians are not without their melting pot either. The recent Ethiopian migrants restriction in the U.S. is going to change that drastically. Canada will be majority niggers before long.
>lol he hates Hitler
Is a pretty damn good excuse not to believe a degenerate. Hitler is a magnet for kike hatred. Always has been, always will be. You want me to look up the motives of his sources from pages 371 through 395? Are you mad? I'm not even going to waste my time counting that insane number.
>Killing someone is innocent REGARDLESS of who does it
You what mate? Killing someone is innocent. Hmm. Well, shit.
>>55487 <-I think it's time to get started.


Anonymous 09/13/2017 (Wed) 03:30:55 Id: 88e217 [Preview] No. 55504 del
>>55498
Before you say that I didn't watch it, I'd say this, it doesn't explain how Oswald was shot, who hired him, etc., it only makes vast jumps of conclusions, it only hypothesize reasons why Jews would want him JFK as well as why Oswald dead but it doesn't properly explain how and who. No mention of which people hired the eight shooters, no mention of the Jews infesting the CIA of which also happened to be pro British, nothing substantially significant is mentioned.
>>55503
Ctrl-F catholic voter
I meant killing someone WHO's innosent regardless of who does it.


Anonymous 09/13/2017 (Wed) 03:39:12 Id: 88e217 [Preview] No. 55505 del
The British-Jewish aspect of the JFK conspiracy is the least understood and it annoys the crap out of me that people think that only Israel was the mastermind behind all the conspirators. On the contrary, many things happen with or without the approval of the kikes, for evil is evil regardless of who does it. Jews are not evil for being merely tribalistic, they're evil because they've mastered identity politics to get what they want, which its concepts is extracted from the Talmud. The "art of war" of the Jews is inherently concerning identity itself, of which the concept of it is although in the Talmud, it's not in the entirety of the Talmud and so is not exclusively Talmudic but also cultural, hence why some Jews can get away with being "Atheistic" yet get called a Jew or even a "self hating Jew" by Jews that see others that rejects their cult. The only way to beat them is to either convince every stupid moron that Jews are evil, or to destroy the Jews the same way the Jews destroy nations. A third option is for everyone to wise the fuck up by themselves. Too bad that's the least likely scenario.


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> Conspiracies + historical narratives (proving and debunking)


Anonymous 09/13/2017 (Wed) 03:42:31 Id: 88e217 [Preview] No. 55507 del
>>55504
*correction: catholic votes, catholic voter shows up nothing. Just looking up catholic or vote however, shows up a lot of stuff about votes as well as what catholics though about the whole thing.


Anonymous 09/13/2017 (Wed) 04:11:12 Id: 88e217 [Preview] No. 55510 del
>>55507
Here, I'll make it even easier.

945 Professor Theodor Abel, in his panel of six hundred leading National Socialists, was unable to get data for 62 percent. Catholics were 10 percent, and Protestants 28 percent. (Fully one third of the population of the Reich, and 42 percent, of those ethnically German, are Catholics.) Cf. T . Abel, Why Hitler Came into Power (New York: Prentice Hall, 1938), p. 313. Rohan d'O. Butler, who wrote a book about The Roots of National Socialism (New York: Dutton, 1942) provides it with an—admittedly rudimentary—bibliography of " forerunners," enumerating sixty-four of them. Of these only six are Catholics (including two Frenchmen).

The rabbit hole continues on with Theodore Fred Abel's book that I haven't read to see where he gets his source from, as well as Butler's book. If it ends up in a circlejerk citation or ends up being a Jewish source, I'll be inclined to believe that there's plausible deniability that it's bullshit, but for now, it seems like most Christians both Protestant and Catholic didn't really vote for NSDAP people but it's not a denial that the majority had elected Hitler. You could say that this is proof that Jews controlled Protestantism and Catholicism, but you are however insistent that Catholics were for Hitler. I'd say, about 10 percent of Catholics were for Hitler, the rest not for Hitler for whatever reasons you like to insert.


Anonymous 09/13/2017 (Wed) 10:55:48 Id: c0e4ad [Preview] No. 55518 del
>>55496
>A human and a human giving birth to a human is still a human
Well, one might argue that with higher complexity of organism, comes the lower threshold of differentiation. It's an inward facing spiral, an inversely proportional duo of two progressive incremental functions. That's true on it's own on a purely biological basis, let alone if we account culture as an extension of genes unique to humans. And cultures are also a product of genes and environment. Despite being similar with all proto-humans, they have evolved huge differences as history progressed, proving my hypothesis true once more. Every potential seeks it's highest expression, however not all expressions are "good" or objectively of the same quality. To deny objective quality is the ultimate ignorance, and equally, ultimate egoism. You don't have to possess those qualities in order to appreciate them and work on their perpetuation.

>The rejection of the higher subject leads to the rejection of the divine principle
Higher subject defines itself by creating the lower subject.

>I don't believe in cultural identity, for it objectifies humanity
Everyone conscious has a cultural identity, even globalist consumerist mutts, except that their culture is an extremely hyletic one, objectively bad AND inferior. No person can have 100% unique and entirely subjective cultural identity, as the very existence of consciousness requires two, that by necessity influence each other.

Besides, your ideas seem quite nihilistic. You deny differentiation, yet fail to define existence without it. Apparently, by removing all "illusions" like identity, you will become the primordial source itself by realizing that it was you all along and that there is no other. Except it's not how things actually work, as fracturing is inherent in the source itself. Only by reaching ultimate differentiation and then reunification can you truly return to the source. The sooner you realize that, the better.


Anonymous 09/13/2017 (Wed) 14:41:10 Id: 88e217 [Preview] No. 55520 del
>>55518
Your repetitive arguments are just ad hominems and epistemological presuppositions thinking that you're using the same words that I'm using, hence, logomachy. I can explain how you're misunderstanding how I use those words you think you understand, but then you'll blame me for your own inability to understand why I'm right because you think you're right over and over again.

This is how I interpret what you're saying:

' Well, I might "argue"(hypothesize) that with higher physical complexity(undefined) of "organism"(life form, not necessarily sentient), comes the lower threshold of differentiation(fails to explain how did a bunch of chemicals become alive and bring forth all diverse life forms). It's an "inward facing spiral"(undefined), an inversely proportional duo or two progressive(undefined) incremental "functions"(bringing math into this bullshit?). That's "true"(what exactly, the equation which all equations can only be used to quantify expressions but never define expressions, or the "inward facing spiral"?) on its own on a "purely biological basis"(undefined), "let alone"(separate) if(an assuming if) we(dragging the reader into your if statements) "account culture as an extension of genes"(IF WE, no, if I, since there's no collective we) unique to humans(ends a sentence inappropriately) and since cultures are (presuming the previous assumption while making a new[but unoriginal] hypothesis) also a product of "genes and environment"(implying direct causation instead of indirect correlation while forgetting the perception of culture can change depending on what the people develop or change their mindsets about which is why people have a choice to change their cultural background to begin with). Despite being similar with all "proto-humans"(undefined), they(humans, not "proto-humans") have "evolved"(confusing adaptation and a loss of genetic information with macro evolution) huge differences as history progressed, proving my "argument"(that's actually never was an argument but a baseless hypothesis and a misconception of an argument with a bunch of statements) true one more without any proof. Every (im)potential seeks it's highest existential expression (because I say so), however not all existential expressions are "objectively good or objectively of the same quality"(equating perfect good with 100% self replication). To deny objective quality is the "ultimate"(adjective used to emphasize) ignorance(because I say so), and equally, ultimate egoism(because I said so). You don't have to possess those qualities in order to appreciate them and work on their perpetuation(even though I don't believe you possess those qualities to work on their perpetuation because I said so).' (cont.)


Anonymous 09/13/2017 (Wed) 14:41:36 Id: 88e217 [Preview] No. 55521 del
>>55518
Higher subject defines itself(because I say so) by creating(and forgetting and/or misunderstanding that the Nous doesn't really "create" anything, confuses extension and posterior attributes as "creation") the lower subject(undefined).

Everyone's conscious has(implying the body is the conscious) a (concept of a) cultural identity, even globalist consumerist "mutts", except that their culture is an extremely "hyletic"(adding suffixes to greek words while using English without using its English equivalent thinking that means any more than materialistic when you've failed to understand hyle in Greek Monism/monistic idiosyncratic terminology means "shadow" and also shadow-matter, the illusion of objectifying a subject in thinking that shadow puppet is you), "objectively bad AND inferior"(trying to objectively deny objectivity and materialism is a contradiction). No person can have a 100% unique and entirely "subjective cultural identity"(yet another self contradicting oxymoronic word combination), as the very "existence"(the conscious doesn't physically exist) requires two(of Kaos), that by necessity influence each other(because I said so).

Besides your ideas seem quite nihilistic(because I said so). You deny differentiation(because I said so) yet fail to define existence without it(because I have no idea what the fuck you're talking about). Apparently(because I don't know what you know, this is what I think you know but you don't agree with me), by "removing all "illusions""(yet inappropriately taking certain words objectively/physically when it was more figurative, not literal), you "will become"(lol, no) the primordial source itself by realizing that it was you all along and that there is no other(undefined). Except it's not how thinks actually work(because I said so), as fracturing(bullshit term I made to convey separation between the Monad and totality) is inherent in the source itself. Only by reaching "ultimate differentiation"(objective synthesis, already a materialistic fallacy) and then "reunification (implying subjective synthesis can be done within objective synthesis when the true subject is not within the object) can you truly return to the source (because I said so). The sooner you realize that, the better(because I said so). ' (cont.)


Anonymous 09/13/2017 (Wed) 14:42:02 Id: 88e217 [Preview] No. 55522 del
>>55518
Just because there's physical differences as well as different existential historical background of the drama that the biological ancestors had believed and had done doesn't mean the progenitors of their ancestors are their ancestors, doesn't mean that they think the same way, doesn't mean that they are the same being, doesn't negate the hard facts of biology that humans are similar to other humans in not being anything else but human, doesn't negate the diversity of the major and minor races of humanity, doesn't mean that people can't change their culture in time, doesn't mean that culture cannot change, doesn't mean that culture is identity, doesn't mean that physical identity is one's personality, doesn't mean that personality is solely predetermined by physical factors, doesn't mean that culture is 100% directly determined by genes and environment, doesn't mean that genes and environment is culture itself, doesn't mean that all forms of culture is bad culture, doesn't mean that culture isn't groupthink, doesn't mean that groupthink isn't a real phenomenon, doesn't mean a real phenomemon is an objective phenomenon, doesn't mean an objective phenomenon solely predetermines subjective phenomenon on a wide scale in all similar living sentient beings, doesn't mean that phenomenon affects noumenon, doesn't mean that psyche = psyche tou pantos, doesn't mean the Nous needs to do anything for it to be defined, doesn't mean the Monad needs to do anything for it to be defined. (cont.)


Anonymous 09/13/2017 (Wed) 14:46:44 Id: 88e217 [Preview] No. 55523 del
>>55518
1, 1=1, 1(1=1), 1[1(1=1)]
Monad, Nous, Psyche, Eidos
1, 1=1, 1+(1=1), [1(1=1)]+[1+(1=1)]
Monad, Nous, Psyche tou pantos, Mimesis
1, 1=1, 1(1=1), 1+(1=1), [1(1=1)]=[1+(1=1)]
Monad, Nous, Psyche, Psyche tou pantos, Hyle
1, 1=1, 1(1=1), 1+(1=1), 1[1(1=1)], [1(1=1)]=[1+(1=1)], [1(1=1)]+[1+(1=1)]
Monad, Nous, Psyche, Psyche tou pantos, Eidos, Hyle, Mimesis

1
1, 1
1, 2
1, 3, 5
2 itself is the posterior attribute of the Nous, not the principle, so it's "outside" of the Nous. The Psyche isn't 2, it's the extension of the Monad and the Nous but it's still unmanifest. There is no Psyche in Psyche tou pantos/Kaos. All the 1's are unmanifest, while 3 is the misunderstanding of 2, and 5 is a misunderstanding of 3+1(1=1) as 3+2 in mistaking 1(1=1) as 2 which requires a Psyche to make that ignorant mistake in animating matter as a mortal instead of not animating matter and return to the Monad by becoming the Nous after separation of 3 from 1(1=1), otherwise, 3 gets its 1 from the Nous but not from the Monad nor the Psyche, not even Eidos. However, the misconceived understanding of Hyle is [1(1=1)]=[1+(1=1)] which is subjective and objective synthesis, while the misconceived understanding of On/"being"/living sentient being is actually Mimesis(reflections) of the Psyche tou pantos and is only objective synthesis, so [1(1=1)]+[1+(1=1)]=5. Why is On 5? It's the recognition of the Psyche to be different from the illusion of Hyle while the Psyche being the Nous united with the Monad, therefore, objective negation, subjective synthesis. There's then two 5's: living matter, and living sentient beings. Plants, bacteria, etc., are 5, but they're not sentient. Matter is in between Metaphysical Ideations and Physical Life. There is an important qualitative difference between Mimesis and On that should be obvious but is not obvious to Atheists that use subjective negation to claim that there is no Psyche in 5. In some sense, those that uses objective synthesis ultimately makes a subjective negation claim even if they claim subjective synthesis, because they believe in objective synthesis, there can't be any subjective synthesis either.

Don't believe this? Well then you are not a Monist, and had failed to convey to a Monist why you're right and they're wrong through their ancient logic that's neither inductive nor deductive.


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>>55523
>that entire post

What is any of that babble supposed to mean?


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>>55504
The conclusions are correct. When you make enemies and then you're murdered, it's very likely those enemies were behind it. And the end of that video as to what Jack Ruby / Jacob Rubenstein confessed is the most important part of all.
>>55507
The problem with Erik von Kuehnelt-Leddihn is that after he criticized National Socialists with Jesuiten, Spießer und Bolschewiken and The Menace of the Herd (trying to hide under Francis S. Campbell), he could not return to Austria even though he was a Habsburg Empire aristocrat. As a member of the bourgeoisie, obviously never speaking against bourgeoisie, and anti-National Socialism caused his self-exile, his motives are suspicious.
>>55510
>Professor Theodore Fred Abel the Pollack
You do realize the majority concentration of jews were in Poland? Pollacks were violently against Germans. Not just the NSDAP. All Germans.
>you are however insistent that Catholics were for Hitler
No I wasn't. I found this Catholic voters path a strange turn, and only pointed out the motives of Erik von Kuehnelt-Leddihn. I don't give a shit about the primary or lesser religions of voters for Hitler.

>>55527
He gets that a lot.


Anonymous 09/13/2017 (Wed) 23:25:48 Id: b73e52 [Preview] No. 55541 del
>>55527

Leave him alone. He's a hybrid Japanese/Korean super-genius.


Anonymous 09/13/2017 (Wed) 23:30:42 Id: 1521db [Preview] No. 55542 del
>>55498

The Kikes killed one of their Mick puppets.

Yawn.


Anonymous 09/13/2017 (Wed) 23:42:33 Id: 4ea6be [Preview] No. 55544 del
>>55542
>he opposed them every step of the way and was killed for it
=/=
>mick puppet


Anonymous 09/14/2017 (Thu) 00:11:10 Id: dcbfe1 [Preview] No. 55559 del
what was
>>55555


Anonymous 09/14/2017 (Thu) 00:14:34 Id: c0e4ad [Preview] No. 55560 del
>>55520
Your "arguments" all come down to extreme semantic inflation as you lack any substance, logic, or even capability to convey them in colloquial terms (probably due to severe autism and/or OCD)

It's basically "because I say so" in the form of a wall of text with a lot of fancy words so I appear smarter than I actually am. All while obsessing with wording and completely ignoring the actual message, even ignoring the obvious. I guess you fail the "I'm not a robot" captcha every time, but even computer algorithms have become complex enough to somewhat grasp context.

>All this projection
>All those purposeful misinterpretations of what I say and then arguing with those misinterpretations instead of the actual message
>Words that have multiple meanings only mean what I say they mean

If you are already going to tautologically analyze my sentences like the autistic fuck that you are, try not doing so selectively (and erroneously) by adding quotes where they were not supposed to be.

>>55522
Ok, now this post gives a good insight about your train of thought.

>>55523
>2 itself is the posterior attribute of the Nous, not the principle
The principle contains all attributes, posterior or not. If not as manifestation, then as potential.

>Don't believe this? Well then you are not a Monist
(because I say so)
lel


Anonymous 09/14/2017 (Thu) 05:25:33 Id: 88e217 [Preview] No. 55572 del
>>55530
Correct conclusions without objective proof concerning an objective subject matter is meaningless. I seek the "smoking gun", not speculations that end up being true. Just because Jacob Rubenstein confessed doesn't mean that only the Jews were behind it all. It's ultimately significantly lacking in objective proof as to the whole scenario of what went down. One needs to see all sides and motives to see the totality of what objectively happened BEFORE there can be any subjective claims made.

I don't take everyone's word at face value, all I'm interested in is the bottom line source, it doesn't matter who says the truth, if they can prove that they aren't bullshitting, regardless of who they are, the truth stands by itself. Grouping Theodore Fred Abel as a Pollack then claim that he's a Jew when there's zero objective proof that he is one doesn't mean that the sources he got from are bad sources, which I don't objectively know, and neither do you objectively know that is the case. All historians have a motive, but the sources used are without interpretation, it's just factual statements, or so I at least hope that it is, but until I get my hands on the specific book that also happens to claim to had interviewed actual people that were living in Germany at that time since Theodore also claimed to had gone there personally to do said interviews and see the source material concerning where did Theodore Abel gets his claim from concerning the percentage of Catholics and Protestants that had voted for the NSDAP, the verdict is still out for me.

>I don't give a shit about the primary or lesser religions of voters for Hitler.
Translation: fuck religion
k.

>>55560
>Your "arguments" all come down to extreme semantic inflation as you lack any substance, logic, or even capability to convey them in colloquial terms (probably due to severe autism and/or OCD)
Translation: ad hominem
Actual OCD people won't even bother with stupid people, while those with actual "autism" are extremely limited to their vocabulary and get too frustrated to even begin to convey their thoughts and feelings.

The actual message you're conveying is objective and subjective synthesis, which objective synthesis leads to subjective negation and so claiming subjective synthesis as well is a materialist fallacy in identifying with the shadow puppet, ergo, you're a materialist and metaphysical atheist which is nihilism which believes in subjective negation. Again, you either get it or you don't, just like how I get that you don't know the words that you're conveying while you think that I don't get what you're trying to convey. If you used the words correctly, you wouldn't see me complain.

There is no such thing as a posterior principle, all principles are anterior to its attribution. All release of potential is IMPOTENTIAL, is always less than its unmanifest potential. Even Taoists knows that fact.

It actually doesn't take much faith to believe in this, but having objective faith however, is a fool's errand since it needs to be objectively verified, but there's no way of quantifying quality, objectifying subject, etc. Although an inferior interpretation, gnosis is "true belief".

I'm not going to greentext my drama of my life, but you can all calm your tits, I'm doing "exactly" what my ancestors had done, in both sides.


Anonymous 09/14/2017 (Thu) 05:39:25 Id: 88e217 [Preview] No. 55573 del
There's many people that still confuse quality with quantity. Descriptions of quantity are specs, artifice, anything empirically measurable. Descriptions of quality are art, expressions, "feel", etc. A digital picture has metadata, but metadata doesn't convey emotions, ideas, warmth, etc. The quality of an object is not objective, it's subjective reciprocation of what is observed in response to the subject of the object. A still photo of a conch shell for example, is a boring inanimate "subject" although it is an object, the Beauty/Logos in the object is not in the object at all. The divine proportion is 1 over phi, although not everything in nature is at that golden ratio/angle, it's what naturally processes out of Kaos. People confuse the subjective quality with an objective quantity, sees not an meaningful expression but a mathematical variable to a formula that isn't based on reality.


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>>55572
>the sources used are without interpretation, it's just factual statements
>or so I at least hope that is
Otto Strauser had absolutely no evidence that Hitler ate shit or fucked his half niece. There is no concrete evidence for gas chambers or an order of mass murder. The lie of 6 million has been pushed since 1869. WW2 historians in any country with "holocaust denial" laws are not to be trusted. Jews never admit to the civil war in 1918 with 2 million Communists, the time jews declared war on Germany, or the assassinations of German politicians by kike Commies. This is why I don't trust authors with motives as soon as I learn what those are.

>Translation: fuck religion
No, fuck religious debate. It's absolutely pointless. You will never get anywhere. Both sides will only sling shit at each other.


Anonymous 09/14/2017 (Thu) 10:40:24 Id: c0e4ad [Preview] No. 55582 del
>>55572
It seems that I have failed to describe the parts where I actually disagree with you, as you keep repeating things that I agree with.

I assume that you have learned English academically, rather than organically, which would explain your inability to grasp contextual language and focus on "correct" use of words. Your logic seems to be quite "Asian" whenever you are one or not. It's hard to escape your genes and the environment that you got raised in, no matter how hard you try.

>you're a materialist and metaphysical atheist which is nihilism which believes in subjective negation
Incorrect. I just don't believe that subjective and objective are completely separate, otherwise they could not interact, nor truly exist for each other. You are not your body of course, but how do you get a concept of having a body in the first place? Even going by your logic, "body" would have to exist as an idea within the subject in order for subject to experience having one.

>All release of potential is IMPOTENTIAL
But impotential is not separate from it's source, that can exist in both states simultaneously.

>I'm not going to greentext my drama of my life
That would be a rather interesting story. I'm curious what factors would shape a person into holding certain beliefs.

>>55573
>People confuse the subjective quality with an objective quantity

Are subjective qualities possible without objective ones? Can you "feel" the music without the sound waves propagating to your ear-lobe and causing an electrochemical reaction in your brain?

Before you call me a materialist, same could be say the other way around. Could anything physical actually be experienced without the subject? Would it even exist if there is no one to experience it?


Anonymous 09/14/2017 (Thu) 11:28:14 Id: 88e217 [Preview] No. 55585 del
>>55580
I wasn't talking about Otto Strauser though, you're just going off in tangents to talk about important yet different things although still not my point which I hope I've already made that point clear in what I'm seeking which is solid hard evidence about the majority of Catholics and Protestants not voting for the NSDAP which your answer to that is "fuck religious debate". All I'm saying is that it would be good for me to know these things for myself even if you don't care nor think that it matters or even think that it's a diversion or a kike conspiracy to get Christians to not get red pilled and such, which are not without reason, but I want to "nail the coffin", but I've hit a wall and you guys don't just so happened to have a PDF of the book that Pollack written either, which for now I don't have "closure" as to what the Weimar Republic Christians were even thinking at that time before Hitler made Germany great again. From what I know now, pre-Hitler Germany, especially Berlin was a cesspool of (((degenerate artists))) (fash-wave BTW is technically degenerate music) and I don't have much insight as to that part of history besides the basic stuff TGSNT outlined. Care to help me in that regard at least?


Anonymous 09/14/2017 (Thu) 12:15:34 Id: 88e217 [Preview] No. 55586 del
>>55582
I used to speak in four different languages, though one of them might not be considered a language while I've forgotten another, so I only consciously speak two languages. Until someone exposed me with the Socratic method, I wasn't so anal about explaining things, but when I've learned science, health, religion, laws, history, philosophy, technology, etc., on my own since the 14 years I've been in school I never learned anything, I've come to understand idiosynchronistic language which is mumbo jumbo for "how the author uses words to describe his ideas with its own contextual meaning despite at face value looks like X language", which reading religious books as well as philosophical, and even historical books, everyone has their own use of words and the good yet tricky authors explains the word a few times then builds upon other words used a few times to explain a concept that is only mentioned a couple of times which is a good way to emphasize things. The way I speak is not the way I type these very words. Depending on whom I speak to, I try to meet them at their level, but I don't do that frivilous nonsense here. (cont.)


Anonymous 09/14/2017 (Thu) 12:16:01 Id: 88e217 [Preview] No. 55587 del
>>55582
Cultural conceptions of logic isn't logic. I don't expect a retard to one day wake up "woke", just as I don't expect to wake up one day and find myself to be a monkey. None of it is dependent on the Psyche, but from the attributional side of the Nous which is Kaos/Psyche tou pantos which is not the Psyche, nor does the Psyche have any metaphysical "eyes" to see the manifest projection of the Psyche tou pantos from the unmanifest. When a non-embodied Psyche looks for a sentient host body, it does it "blind" but with a desire to manifest itself through something which can't be done yet is foolish and ignorant enough to think that it can, so it "grasps onto form" to puppet the hyle of the un-ensouled sentient host body (unborn baby). No Monistic Metaphysician had ever taught that the Psyche knew what the host life form was before it "sends a signal" to it. Once the signal to the "radio" is established, the signal continues to reach the radio until the radio "dies" which the signal was never harmed. Monistic Metaphysicians also never claimed that a Psyche can "send the signal to multiple radios", but only the Nous can through its near infinite extensions of preconscious which is conscious. The signal/conscious/Psyche/specific extension of the Nous can turn around and return to the source of the signal in reflecting back the unmanifest potential back into itself which is what the Nous does in unity in sharing the light of the sun in reflecting the same light of the sun back to it like a mirror facing the sun. That's what the Nous does in principle, while the Nous is the inferior light even though it is the only one that knows itself while the Monad doesn't know anything, being the result of primordial ignorance of the Monad, the Nous in sharing the light and reflecting the light still sends light outside of the source, which is hard to explain without using a diagram of an isoceles triangle used in a pentagram with specific points and lines on it. What the Nous is in attribute is what Kaos does in principle, while the Psyche is the extension of the Nous. Kaos and Psyche are both unmanifest, which is why Psyche can puppet Psyche tou pantos but cannot control its principle nor its attributes. A shadow is a privation, a reified absence into a noun when it's not a noun, not a object, not a subject, it's not real. The metaphysical properties of Hyle and Mimesis is that Hyle is a privation of the Psyche tou pantos yet is misconceived to be physical by Psyche, but is nevertheless "real" because of the Nous, hence, 2+1=3=Hyle. This means that even if say your grandpop dies, reality won't dissolve because reality was never dependent on his Psyche's interpretation of Hyle, though from his perspective, the grand illusion ends, but if he don't know why he was alive in the first place, he'll only seek life again as a mortal yet again, reanimate back into the world in a different host body which again, there's no conscious choice made concerning what kind of body that is, as long as the signal reaches the radio, which then the puppet show kickstarts back into power. The Nous only knows itself (Monad and Nous), from Kaos "projects" antinomies within it even though there's no paradoxes in nature, the Nous doesn't know evil but unknowingly was behind the reason to the formation of Kaos, but Kaos being the posterior attribute of the Nous, never had a "beginning" nor a "end", time is metaphysically unreal while the illusion of time is only experienced through either a shadow puppet within Kaos. Kaos is also magnitude, but the magnitude of Kaos itself is unlimit, no beginning, no end. Mimesis is reflections of the Psyche tou pantos from Hyle, hence 2+3=5, living non-sentient matter, as well as the laws of physics is represented as 5, which depends on Eidos which represents the laws of metaphysics that gives definition to 5.


Anonymous 09/14/2017 (Thu) 12:47:14 Id: 88e217 [Preview] No. 55589 del
>>55582
>But impotential is not separate from it's source, that can exist in both states simultaneously.
1 extends 1/phi into phi, 1/phi<1<phi, phi is to 1 as 1 is to phi
I can't properly explain incommensurability in layman's words, read the articles I've already linked to you.
>Are subjective qualities possible without objective ones?
Subjective qualities are the posterior attributes of the subject. The idea of the Beauty seen within creation is noetic and never was physical. The rejection of Beauty is "lust". Sex is meaningless without Beauty. Platonic love is a frequently misunderstood concept. Of course everyone should seek to get with those that they're physically, emotionally, and spiritually connected to, but the only thing that makes love true love is it has to be Platonic love first, mutual love second, and of course physical love last. I suspect Paul took Agape, Philo, and Eros from Hellenic philosophy, though more on the side of Platonism more than Stoicism which they've denounced Stoicism by name but never Platonism by name, thoug of course there's much evidence to say that he and the apostles was just looking for Greek equivalent terms already used in Hebrew to express what they were thinking.
>Could anything physical actually be experienced without the subject? Would it even exist if there is no one to experience it?
>If a tree falls in the forest and no one was there to verify that it happened, did the tree make a sound?
>There's a flying kettle behind the moon, it's there but you can't see it.
>Which came first, the chicken or the egg?
>What is the sound of one hand clapping?
Objective paradoxes aren't real, but comes from ignorance. Seeking to understand why however, cannot be done through objective deduction nor induction, but to first seek for the answers is to at least be told by someone that they're wrong so that they might question as to why that might be the case because if what someone said was true, why is it true, and how do I know what is true, through that which is not true until I come to know what it truly is. Here's another objective paradox/thought experiment that can't be objectively answered: h ttps://w ww.youtube.com/watch?v=RpFiJxodGGg


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>>55585
>pre-Hitler Germany, especially Berlin was a cesspool of (((degenerate artists))) (fash-wave BTW is technically degenerate music)
>and I don't have much insight as to that part of history besides the basic stuff TGSNT outlined.
>Care to help me in that regard at least?
It was the Weimar Republic. Gustav Stresemann brought prosperity to Germans for awhile, but that is where the fluff piece begins if you waste your time with jew-influenced Wikipedia. The claim there is that even though there was the worst hyperinflation, Germans prospered through artistic ingenuity. Complete and total bullshit with their source a website promoting the perversions of the Wiemar Republic as "entertainment". Firstly, you should know that social democratic leader Philipp Scheidemann was the proclaimant of the Weimar Republic and he signed the armistice, the Treaty of Versailles, that "great stab in the back". January 5th 1919 was the formation of the German worker's party. State commissioner Gustav von Kahr banned National Socialist meetings March 20th during the height of the Weimar Republic's hyperinflation. Entire families sold their bodies out of their homes for tourist money. German people starved to death. This was a great time for tourists who came for the sex trade, because their money was valuable in Berlin. Anything they wanted. Sex with another man's wife? A child? Homosexuality, bisexuality, a woman having sex with any animal. Done. The JDL who now how control over YouTube has obviously taken down the documentary on the Wiemar Republic. If I cut it down as a webm, I have to reduce the resolution dramatically and it will look like shit to fit the upload limit. Has to be uploaded somewhere else instead. It's an .mp4
153.98MB (pre-scanned for viruses/malware)
h ttp://w ww.mediafire.com/file/n41ylom16eoe843/Cultural+Alchemy+Special-Berlin+Sin+City+of+the+1920%27s.mp4


Anonymous 09/14/2017 (Thu) 17:40:31 Id: 4ea6be [Preview] No. 55592 del
>who now how control over YouTube
*who now have control over YouTube


Anonymous 09/15/2017 (Fri) 09:01:18 Id: 88e217 [Preview] No. 55622 del
>>55591
There's bitchute and mediagoblin but mediafire just as mega.nz obeys DMCA complaints. Thanks for the link though, I'll watch it later. I assume that you're using Windows which if you are, besides ClamAV (open source) and maybe Kaspersky (since the DHS is trying to make it illegal and inaccessible for Amerifats to use Kaspersky because it also patches a main Microsoft software backdoor embedded in all Microsoft systems, not to mention that Kaspersky labs were the first to find stuxnet and probably is one of the few good consumer antivirus software providers that blocks the FBI's magic lantern virus), any really bad junk won't be picked up by any old antivirus/antimalware/antispyware software. Using Linux or BSD won't make one automatically safe either, due to software backdoors or even kernel backdoors, which many don't have the time nor enough know how to setup their computer security. Stuff about this is more >>>/os/ or >>>/tech/ than it being /pol/. McAfee and Norton work within Microsoft while Microsoft have an office in the NSA.


Anonymous 09/15/2017 (Fri) 20:59:44 Id: f699f9 [Preview] No. 55632 del
h ttps://mobile.twitter.com/PoliticalOrgy/status/908428876149387265
Jill stein: controlled op


Anonymous 09/15/2017 (Fri) 21:26:28 Id: f699f9 [Preview] No. 55635 del
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Can we talk about the serious health threat of Wi-Fi?

"We should not be subjecting kids' brains especially to that... and we don’t follow this issue in our country, but in Europe, where they do, you know, they have good precautions about wireless. Maybe not good enough, you know. It’s very hard to study this stuff. You know, we make guinea pigs out of whole populations and then we discover how many die."


Anonymous 09/15/2017 (Fri) 21:43:47 Id: 4ea6be [Preview] No. 55636 del
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>>55635
I'm way more concerned about flouride and aluminum, allowing aluminum to bypass the blood/brain barrier and causing dementia or alzheimer's.
>Jill Stein
<parents = Russian jews
Guys. GUYS! She's running for President in 2016!


Anonymous 09/16/2017 (Sat) 01:38:32 Id: b73e52 [Preview] No. 55642 del
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>>55622
>(since the DHS is trying to make it illegal and inaccessible for Amerifats to use Kaspersky because it also patches a main Microsoft software backdoor embedded in all Microsoft systems, not to mention that Kaspersky labs were the first to find stuxnet and probably is one of the few good consumer antivirus software providers that blocks the FBI's magic lantern virus)

Sure thing, Ivan Goldberg. We believe you.


Anonymous 09/16/2017 (Sat) 01:40:38 Id: b73e52 [Preview] No. 55643 del
>>55636

I didn't know that Jill Stein's parents were Russian immigrants. That explains why Jill Stein constantly shills for the Kike controlled Russian Govt. and attended the 10th anniversary dinner of Russia Today news and sat at the same table with Vladimir Putin.


Anonymous 09/16/2017 (Sat) 02:41:39 Id: 88e217 [Preview] No. 55651 del
>>55642
>believing in (((fake news))) by the Trump administration and Jews to justify war between Russia and US
h ttps://techcrunch.com/2017/09/13/kaspersky-executive-branch-ban-dhs-homeland-security/
h ttps://betanews.com/2017/09/13/kaspersky-software-ban/
h ttps://betanews.com/2017/06/07/kaspersky-microsoft-antitrust/
>not knowing that Kaspersky was blocked by Windows 10
h ttps://w ww.kaspersky.com/blog/microsoft-european-trial/16976/
>using kosher antiviruses like McAfee and Norton that doesn't block Magic Lantern
h ttp://msk2-kaspcom-proxy.kaspersky-labs.com/about/news/virus/2001/The_FBI_s_Magic_Lantern_Shines_Bright
For the record, I said "maybe" Kaspersky, but proprietary or open source, it doesn't really matter. What matters is if it works as advertised. I don't use Windows, but if I was, I would use Windows 7 with ClamAV, Kaspersky (there's twelve free tools available for download in response to the US banning Kaspersky at least at the federal and state government level) and at least two other anti(virus/malware/spyware) software that can be loaded from a USB. Apple is pretty much indefinitely impractical for security, though admittedly useful if you don't care about that and dealt with media.


Anonymous 09/16/2017 (Sat) 16:23:16 Id: c0e4ad [Preview] No. 55671 del
>>55587
Is non-embodied Psyche sentient/conscious according to you? If it's not, how can it make a choice about anything, such as deciding not to attempt to manifest itself again?

How exactly does objective negation lead to subjective synthesis? If you are not your body, your psyche and so on, what are you? Do you even exist in any meaningful way without those attributes? How is such existence any different from the one propagated by atheistic materialists?

What is the mechanism by which Nous/Psyche manages to project itself? How does that process translate into framework of physics? Even if you claim that the two are ultimately separate, there has to be a way by which one influences another.

If you believe that everything is an illusion and that there is no purpose behind anything, you are a very definition of a nihilist.

>The idea of the Beauty seen within creation is noetic and never was physical
Where does such idea originate from then, if you claim that immaterial existence (or at least it's very source) is ultimate ignorance

Inb4 another semantic inflation wall of text that doesn't actually answer any of my questions or addresses any of the issues that I have brought up.


Anonymous 09/16/2017 (Sat) 17:06:55 Id: 88e217 [Preview] No. 55674 del
>>55671
>Is non-embodied Psyche sentient/conscious according to you? If it's not, how can it make a choice about anything, such as deciding not to attempt to manifest itself again?
The non-embodied Psyche IS conscious itself, it IS NOT physical. Embodied Psyche is an illusion, non-embodied Psyche lets go of its false self, false persona, false beliefs, etc., but that doesn't mean that the non-embodied Psyche had experienced Anamnesis which is a prerequisite that needs to be done before one physically dies.

>How exactly does objective negation lead to subjective synthesis? If you are not your body, your psyche and so on, what are you? Do you even exist in any meaningful way without those attributes? How is such existence any different from the one propagated by atheistic materialists?
You are not your body, you are the Psyche, you are the extension of the Nous, you become the Nous through Henosis after Anamnesis. Just because you can control a body doesn't mean that you can bring your wealth, your health, your memories, your data with you after death. Anamnesis can't be done during the state of non-embodiment.

>What is the mechanism by which Nous/Psyche manages to project itself? How does that process translate into framework of physics? Even if you claim that the two are ultimately separate, there has to be a way by which one influences another.
It's as if you didn't read any of the links to books and articles that actually does explain this. The Aether, the golden chains.

>If you believe that everything is an illusion and that there is no purpose behind anything, you are a very definition of a nihilist.
Every-thing is a real illusion that affects other real illusions equally just as the dreams you experience are real within the dream but aren't real outside of it. The purpose of life is to for one, live it, since that's why you're even here, and second (although more important), to no longer seek eternal mortality for true immortality.

>The idea of the Beauty seen within creation is noetic and never was physical
>Where does such idea originate from then, if you claim that immaterial existence (or at least it's very source) is ultimate ignorance
Eidos, extension of the Psyche. I don't think you understand what is ultimate ignorance is, and I don't think you realize that immaterial existence is an oxymoronic word. I never really said ultimate ignorance until you've used it to describe your misconception of primordial ignorance. It'll be easier if you just let go of that forced meme. Also, look up "reify" and understand that reified ignorance is not exactly agnosis/nescience, is not agnosis/extension of gnosis is not the result of primordial agnosis is not the necessitate extension of the Monad which is the Nous, of which is not the Monad even though the Nous shares the unmanifest potential of the Monad, the Monad doesn't manifest impotential like the Nous although between the Nous and the Monad, unmanifest potential is kept together through the first level of the aether, there's a second level of the aether which keeps the Psyche and Psyche tou pantos. The second level aether is the "wall" between the unmanifest and the manifest. There is however a direct aether from the Monad down past the first and second level aether walls down in between eidos and mimesis. The proportion of the Aether is 1 over phi.

>Inb4 another semantic inflation wall of text that doesn't actually answer any of my questions or addresses any of the issues that I have brought up.
You either get it or you don't, and you don't seem to get it from my limited perspective behind a literal projection of light. No matter how brief or how long


Anonymous 09/16/2017 (Sat) 17:42:10 Id: 88e217 [Preview] No. 55675 del
>>55674
A form of Henosis can be experienced while alive, but it's not actualized until after separation from the body. Truly understanding this gives one a state of supernal bliss from wisdom and true understanding of liberation of the conscious, but again, this doesn't mean that Jews aren't objectively causing evil through the abuse of objective identity flipping for identity politics and such, neither does it mean that you can stop paying your bills and taxes for knowing these things, It should however, provide someone with a better understanding of understanding itself through synthesis negation. Objective qualities are ultimately subjective qualities of a noun, while objective quantification are not subjective qualities that's ultimately metaphysical, but are instead physical, empirical, countable, measurable with units and numbers and formulas that measures change of a variable but never defining the expression of the variable which is dependent on metaphysical qualities that gives definition to the physical laws. The divided line sits between the physical and the metaphysical, between space and counterspace. There's a hysteresis between the unmanifest and the manifest which is the elasticity of the aether itself. h ttps://w ww.youtube.com/watch?v=z_CHeIxhgaQ h ttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hysteresis

The golden ratio itself is the Aether, but being amused by the Aether than the source of the Aether that also holds up all the golden chains is unfortunate to say the least.


Anonymous 09/16/2017 (Sat) 18:02:43 Id: 88e217 [Preview] No. 55677 del
h ttps://archive.org/download/magnetism1small/magnetism1small.pdf (I didn't share this link ITT but in older threads)
h ttps://archive.org/download/PythagorasPlatoAndTheGoldenRatio/PythagoreanGoldenRatio.pdf (linked before ITT)
h ttps://archive.org/download/IndefiniteDyadPlotinusMetaphysicsMysticism/IndefiniteDyadPlotinusMetaphysicsMysticism.pdf (also linked before ITT)
Don't understand what you're reading? Then you don't know why it doesn't take much faith in grasping why it's true. If that's too hard for you, read these first then go back to it: h ttps://mega.nz/!NcxTTDaJ!7qd00XrA5ajfdHBY2G5m-zniSSqjW9a-j-iK_vlSLcA (also linked to before)
h ttps://mega.nz!oIhzGAzY!bvP3nuRUvV3MZJ7o3DaiGyHLSHC3_tbLqm4pDDbiGDQ (this too)

If you keep on repeating the same questions, well I really can't help you and you should know when to stop asking questions to those that you don't understand what they're conveying. Acknowledging your own limitations as well as others is something that everyone should recognize, but paradoxically, some people's existential limitations make them being unable to know said limitation.


Anonymous 09/17/2017 (Sun) 05:20:24 Id: 4c7932 [Preview] No. 55703 del
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>>55651

Right, Vlad Silverstein.

h ttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eugene_Kaspersky#Early_life

>At the age of 16, Kaspersky entered a five-year program with The Technical Faculty of the KGB Higher School,[15] which prepared intelligence officers for the Russian military and KGB.[7][8] He graduated in 1987[15] with a degree in mathematical engineering and computer technology.[4][8] After graduating college, Kaspersky served the Soviet military intelligence service [6] as a software engineer.[2][10]


Anonymous 09/17/2017 (Sun) 08:01:07 Id: 88e217 [Preview] No. 55783 del
>>55703
The old KGB is gone while he doesn't have any direct ties with the new FSB. The school he went to was sponsored by the KGB, but Russian Communism was destroyed from within among themselves by Gorbachev and Eugene Kaspersky was in school under Gorbachev so I won't call Kaspersky an old school KGB trained guy. The Atheistic Russian Jews had let go of their stupid economic theories and heathen barbarism and embraced cultural Russian Judaism, Russian Orthodox Christianity, and Capitalism which is slightly better than what they used to have but ultimately gets worse in time if the state doesn't kept speculative banking practices left unchecked while Russia still denies that the Holodomor happened. In one hand, they pretend to be pro USSR but on the other hand, vehemently against what they've done in the past politically. Russia's still a shithole with rich assholes literally running over people on the sidewalks as another road lane, while Putin's trying to use a Humanistic approach and rejects "antisemitism" and so just give it enough time and Russia would become decadent as the very countries that it hates today and it's already happening at some level, sympathizing with socialist countries and such. Here's a better question: if you were going to be spied by either American Jews, Russian Jews, Israeli Jews, or Chinese Jews, and if you lived in the US, which country's datamining software would the Jews not find much use for? If you don't want to pick any of them, well throw out your computer or cellphone or stop using the library computer, you're fucked anyways and shouldn't be able to post anything in fear of being datamined or some shit like that so you automatically lose if you don't pick one. The correct answer is unfortunately, Russia, since you can't trust your own government, you can't trust Israel that's controlling the US, and you can't trust the Chinese since they're trying to mine buttcoins in the background processes. Even Russians themselves don't like their own government, and Russians have their fair share of "white hat hackers" that share any info they got about a program doing dishonest shit. I would say this though, I can't trust ClamAV to block ransomware, but I know that Kaspersky can. If you're using Windows XP, you're bound to get hit with a virus almost instantaneously after installation and access to the internet, while all Apple hardware are permanently backdoored while a few Intel hardware can properly disable AMT. In the end, the American and Israeli Jews got us all at the hardware level, yet you're bitching about Kaspersky when there's bigger problems that you don't seem to care about. Even if the enemy of my enemy is partially also my enemy, they're still better than a traitor from within my ranks. There's no smoking gun that Kaspersky Labs are controlled by the FSB or by any Russian government alphabet soup, it's only at the level of speculation that aren't all that plausible, yet there's hard evidence that Symantec and McAfee are controlled by Microsoft to keep certain vulnerabilities left exploitable for the FBI, of which Microsoft works for the NSA and the CIA and the DHS. I sometimes wonder why people use McAfee on their Apple devices, it's like installing shit on top of shit.


Anonymous 09/17/2017 (Sun) 19:56:31 Id: c0e4ad [Preview] No. 56152 del
>>55677
I'm very tempted to say that I'm very limited when it comes to understanding illogical gibberish, but it would be very mean and dishonest on my part no matter how annoying you are, so I'll refrain from commenting on this any further until I actually read the material that you have linked. I kind of wanted you to give me a TL;DR version because I'm not a NEET and don't have as much time (or mental energy) for such pursuits as I did before, but I see that it's not possible.

>>55783
This is something that I actually agree on. Even if USA-Russia dichotomy is false at the highest level (both countries are ruled by Jews), one has to be less bad, even if somewhat illusory.

>If you're using Windows XP, you're bound to get hit with a virus almost instantaneously after installation and access to the internet
Incorrect. I've been using it since it came out and I only got a virus 2 or 3 times in the beginning because I was careless about files that I opened. Now it's pretty much impenetrable with all the edits and third party applications. It's also less susceptible to NSA spying than newer versions, although by no means invulnerable.


Anonymous 09/18/2017 (Mon) 02:44:10 Id: 88e217 [Preview] No. 56162 del
>>56152
A TL;DR version is hard to do. Understanding philosophy is harder than understanding most modern religions. History is much easier to learn than to understand the why behind history itself. It is like asking why drama is drama, a soap opera of whatever we have that isn't lost by the sands of time. Though some tried to explain the why behind history, the losers don't always write their side of their drama and the farther away from the present, the harder it is to verify if certain events are either exaggerated or symbolic. The how behind history is politics, which uses storytellers/propaganda to convey certain ideals to justify certain actions against certain conflicting ideals. and it just works for them sometimes while other times it needs a fresh coat of paint just enough for the sheep to be content with the illusion of political progression when it's more cyclical although generally rising with the baseline knowledge and wisdom the herd as a whole (collective conscious, groupthink, hivemind) which the internet is the means to hyper accelerate access to various concepts of which for some, they only experience echo chambers but of course it wasn't always like that and there's ways to avoid the cancer that's literally killing people for IRL wrongthink, but at what cost? User created echo chambers and a lack of genuine care for humanity. Many put themselves into a human zoo as we look at others in human zoos in disgust and looking down at them. Many people in major cities don't know their next door neighbors anymore, all afraid of something.

Someone I sort of knew and trusted (that works for (((RHEL))) but is also a blue pilled tripfag known in /g/) had gotten a svchost virus a little bit after installing a VM install of Windows XP (or was it 7, I forget). Of course the results may vary, but if you don't use lots of third party applications, XP is still technically used by the US military, although they are pushing for Windows 10 stuff which ironically also a big security risk since outsourcing companies in whatever nation has the technology and know how to destroy the US if they really tried to in exploiting some hardware backdoor. I don't believe in the whole "you should be safe if you don't click on anything bad" thing since for one, nobody knows until after it's been clicked and two, some viruses hide their tracks very well like ransomware shit. Any self preventative efforts to not click on bad links and such are all estimated guesses based on experience in understanding generally how one gets viruses, so it isn't truly foolproof and deals with trusting in something you don't know what it is. Planned obsolescence is sometimes a blessing in disguise with plausible deniability with using "ancient" tech that the majority doesn't use, obscurity through deprecated tech, but besides number stations, XP is still generally new, but if there's still Windows CE machines used by ATMs and such, there's always going to be XP machines and this dystopian future's not going to change all that much from the looks of it besides a bigger push for hybrid and electric cars and better battery storage efficiency.


Anonymous 09/18/2017 (Mon) 03:03:32 Id: 88e217 [Preview] No. 56164 del
>>56152
edit *but if you don't use lots of good third party applications, XP is unusable.

By the way, having old un-updated applications before 2010 is probably safer than updated applications for XP.


Anonymous 09/18/2017 (Mon) 04:24:47 Id: eb5853 [Preview] No. 56165 del
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>>55783

You're becoming desperate, Mikhail Horowtiz.

I didn't read your stupid wall of text, by the way.


Anonymous 09/18/2017 (Mon) 04:47:07 Id: 88e217 [Preview] No. 56171 del
>>56165
And you're probably changing IPs often because you get banned often.


Anonymous 09/19/2017 (Tue) 00:35:23 Id: c0e4ad [Preview] No. 56212 del
>>56162
Understanding philosophy is sometimes harder than understanding physics. Explaining the "why" is often more tricky than explaining the "how" , even if it doesn't appear so on the surface. Most modern religions don't have much to be understood in the first place, they are simply a placebo for overcoming existential issues. People are afraid of death, they want to wish their problems away, they want to hold onto something in this brutal world of absurdity. It takes great mental fortitude in order to see this world for what it truly is and still keep going.

Service pack 3 has really solved a lot of security issues. But it's not only the caution with opening new files, I employ a wide array of security measures. Basically, no program can run, change files/settings or connect to another IP without my explicit approval. It would take a lot of effort to break in, which doesn't really pay off. But you are right, it's not going to make reality any less dystopian.

>>56164
Agreed. There is a certain peak point when it comes to this, using newer OS/software (even hardware to a certain degree) increased security up to a certain point, when it started becoming full of inbuilt exploits and going downwards. Win XP is close to that point. Before it, systems were much more easy to exploit by anyone, after it, they started becoming easier to exploit by gov services (and third party groups who have knowledge of those exploits)

You should check the new Intel processors though, they are being quite open about their hardware backdoors, even marketing them as something good lol.


Anonymous 09/19/2017 (Tue) 08:29:57 Id: 88e217 [Preview] No. 56226 del
Here's something totally different: Primary Water EXPLAINED - Why We DO NOT Have a Water Shortage h ttps://w ww.youtube.com/watch?v=AUaPleXoK8E

This too: House of Numbers h ttps://w ww.youtube.com/watch?v=BwgmzbnckII

This is more closer to /pol/: Princes of the Yen: Central Bank Truth Documentary h ttps://w ww.youtube.com/watch?v=p5Ac7ap_MAY

>>56212
Perhaps this would help, or not: h ttps://pastebin.com/6SUirFRU

Use sandboxie if you already haven't, though you have to look for the version that has XP support.



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