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Nanonymous No.6868 [D][U][F][S][L][A][C] >>6869
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What is the point of Tor when most nodes reside in nations that have mandatory data retention laws? Then the trail leading directly back to you may be followed months after you use a specific Tor circuit.

Nanonymous No.6869 [D]
>>6868
https://github.com/torproject/torspec/blob/master/padding-spec.txt

Nanonymous No.6871 [D]
data retention laws do not defeat Tor
only metadata is collected
even if IP connections to each Tor server were recorded, each Tor node is connected to plenty of other Tor nodes. how do you know which one to follow?
also connections are kept for some time, you don't know which connection did specific request at specific time

Nanonymous No.6872 [D]
>What is the point of Tor when most nodes reside in nations that have mandatory data retention laws?
What fucking countries? Australia? And has anyone even in Australia implemented data retention for Tor?

Nanonymous No.6875 [D] >>6876 >>6883 >>6925 >>7116 >>7259 >>7321
Write to /etc/tor/torrc:

StrictNodes 1
ExcludeNodes {US},{CN},{RU},{UA},{CA},{GB},{AU},{HK},{VN},{CZ},{NZ},{IR},{SD}

Nanonymous No.6876 [D] >>6937
>>6875
>RU
baste

Nanonymous No.6883 [D] >>6937
>>6875
Retard.

Nanonymous No.6925 [D] >>6937
>>6875
Congratulations. Thanks to you excluding so many country nodes from your tor config, you now have an extremely visible fingerprint. You also seem to imply that countries not on your list do not practice data retention.

Nanonymous No.6937 [D][U][F] >>6948 >>7363
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>>6876
>>6883
>>6925
>using nodes from US, China and Russia
>call me retard
Yeah, sure.

Nanonymous No.6948 [D] >>6951
>>6937
Why not use nodes from China and Russia if you are not from China or Russia? There are no nodes in China anyways as far as I am aware.

Nanonymous No.6951 [D] >>6953 >>7011 >>7090 >>7116
>>6948
Because their government is actively monitoring all network traffic:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cyberwarfare_in_China

Same goes for Russia (FSB) and US (CIA/FBI/NSA). And UK (GCHQ) and Australia (that is trying to completely ban encryption).

People here have read too many dumb comments on imageboards, at the point of thinking everything they read is true. For some of you guys the small change you do in Tor/TBB and you're fucked. That's not how it works.
Excluding nodes will offer no risks for you, since the geoip file already contains all public nodes. You're simply saying to Tor "not use these nodes", just like you block something in your firewall. This won't affect your anonymity, from man page:
>"If StrictNodes is set to 1, Tor will treat solely the ExcludeNodes option as a requirement to follow for all the circuits you generate, even if doing so will break functionality for you"
This might break some circuits, because of server compatibility (not updated Tor servers). But won't offer any risk to security or anonymity.

Stop this scaremongering off "use TBB with all defaults or you're fucked". I'm starting to think we have some shills in this place.

Nanonymous No.6953 [D] >>6990
>>6951
Your English isn't any better than it used to be, and neither is your advice about Tor.

You're not just a retard, you're a tiresome retard.

sage sage No.6990 [D] >>7004
>>6953
>ad hominem
You can't argument and I am the retard here? Explain this cognitive dissonance to me, please.

Nanonymous No.7002 [D]
USE ALL THE NODES!!!!!!!!!!!
ADD MOAR NODES!!!!!!
ASK MAJOR SITES TO REPLACE THEMSELVES WITH WITH A TOR NODE!!!!!!!
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

Nanonymous No.7003 [D]
ass

Nanonymous No.7004 [D] >>7013
>>6990
You've seen all of the arguments before. Your writing style and your preoccupations tell anyone who's been paying attention exactly who you are. We've been over this before. We know you've seen the arguments against your silly Tor configurations and that you're unwilling to (or incapable of) understand(ing) them. No point in repeating them. Keep dumping your unique Tor traffic onto the internet and posting with your ungrammatical and idiosyncratic English. I don't care. Anyone with sense will know to ignore you.

Nanonymous No.7011 [D]
>>6951
The more unique you are, the less anonymous you are, and the more unique and less anonymous I am. People who do not understand this shouldn't be using Tor. You're ruining it for the rest of us.

sage sage No.7013 [D][U][F]
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>>7004
>look how smart I am
>I can identify people by their writing style
You're incapable of argumenting, so you have to use verbal agressions to fill your empty intellect and give yourself a sense of "accomplishment", when in fact you're weak and pathetic. That's Freud's 'defense mechanisms' in a nutshell.
You don't have to do that in a anonymous community, anon. Just chill out. It's normal for people to antagonize you. That's how you come up with new/better arguments and grow up intellectually.

Nanonymous No.7090 [D]
>>6951
Every major power is monitoring all network traffic.

Nanonymous No.7116 [D] >>7274
>>6951
>Because their government is actively monitoring all network traffic
So is every single country save for some chicken farm hellhole in Africa, what is your point? If you are a government entity in $current_year, you HAVE to monitor it.

>For some of you guys the small change you do in Tor/TBB and you're fucked. That's not how it works.
You make the changes if the trouble and identifiable differences are worth it. Example: JS sometimes vs. never can be debated. I don't gain anything from excluding nodes because I am certain that traffic from *all* of them is monitored.

>This might break some circuits, because of server compatibility (not updated Tor servers). But won't offer any risk to security or anonymity.
Well, it won't provide any information to the nodes, sure. But websites can use this information and I'd rather not trust this place either. As in, "this guy that posts in a certain way only from these nodes". Which can then be used across the onion network, if I didn't switch up my config.

>Stop this scaremongering off "use TBB with all defaults or you're fucked". I'm starting to think we have some shills in this place.
Risk vs. reward and I don't think it's worth it. What would I even be shilling for? I'm also a little curious why Germany is missing from >>6875, considering they jail for opinions and seem to have a nu-Stasi - if you assume that some governments are not snooping in the first place.

Nanonymous No.7258 [D] >>7259 >>7274
Why is CZ on the list

Nanonymous No.7259 [D]
>>7258
Oh fuck forgot the number
>>6875

sage sage No.7274 [D] >>7277 >>7358
>>7116
>What would I even be shilling for?
The biggest impacts on Tor anonymity are javascript and using shitty nodes from shit countries. I've suggested to get rid of both and you (or some other anon) are trying to scare people to not do that, without offering any argument.
What would you be shilling for? I dunno, maybe you're a fed trying to make it easier for intel agencies to monitor us?
Use Links browser on OpenBSD. Exclude shit nodes. That's all I'm saying.
>Risk vs. reward and I don't think it's worth it.
There's no risk. That's the point.
>Germany is missing
It is, but they are necessary. Most nodes on Tor come from Germany. If you exclude their nodes Tor becomes very unstable.
>>7258
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ISO_3166-2:CZ

Nanonymous No.7277 [D] >>7281
>>7274
>I've suggested to get rid of both and you (or some other anon) are trying to scare people to not do that, without offering any argument.
the argument is fingerprinting. not here on nanochan, but if you had any account or something like account and logged on it often, they could record what IP you have, they could identify that you never get US, UK etc exit nodes even though they are common
lets say you also have account on CP site controlled by government, they could record your IP (exit nodes) there too. they could link your different accounts, one on CP site, another on your bank website, your mail account
I never heard of something like this being used, especially since most people don't restrict their nodes, but it is a possibility to use it in a way I explained

>Use Links browser on OpenBSD.
enjoy your fingerprint

Nanonymous No.7281 [D] >>7284 >>7305
>>7277
>account or something like account
I don't.
>they could identify that you never get US, UK etc
And how would this offer any danger?
>enjoy your fingerprint
I am. Thanks.
Also, the http headers are not much different than TBB, due to the "fake firefox" option. Already exaustively discussed on >>4669 thread.
Good luck running a massive piece of shit that is firefox, that probably has more vulnerabilities than anyone can count and passing your traffic through NSA/FSB controlled nodes.

Nanonymous No.7284 [D] >>7302
>>7281
The perfect Tor path for me would be one 3PLA node, one NSA node, and one FSB.

Nanonymous No.7302 [D]
>>7284
This. If your Tor circuit passes through three different nodes that want to conduct traffic analysis that all represent different non-allied states what is the problem?

Nanonymous No.7305 [D]
>>7281
>And how would this offer any danger?
they fingerprint this on one website. then they find same fingerprint on another website. they know those two accounts/persons are the same person

>Also, the http headers are not much different than TBB, due to the "fake firefox" option.
they are different enough to fingerprint

Nanonymous No.7308 [D]
true imma just blog on discord instead

Nanonymous No.7321 [D]
>>6875
I'm going to use simple maths to show you how stupid that exclusions are and by extension how stupid you are for promoting that stupid idea.
Lets assume there are 1000 entry guards, 10000 relay nodes and 1000 exit nodes. This gives a total of 10 000 000 000 possible circuits. That is 10 billion.
Now you reject at least 50% of nodes by your extensive rejection list. This gives 500 entry-guards, 5000 relays and 500 exits. This gives 1250 000 000 - 1.25 billion possible circuits. Almost 10 times less than without exclusions. This makes you 8 times easier to trace. This is even worse for non-clearnet circuits. And then even much worse if you happen to exclude majority of rendezvous points.

Now of course not all possible combinations would be used for circuits and all the numbers are pulled from my ass, but by having extensive rejection list you are effectively rejecting a significant fraction of nodes and this effect is then multiplied at each hop.

Nanonymous No.7358 [D]
>>7274
Guys. Guys. It's obvious. He's shilling for Germany because he's AI Hitler. Viva the fourth Reich!

Nanonymous No.7363 [D] >>7476
>>6937
>LARPing about pretending to know which country which nodes are in, because you googled it and got some clickbait.JS webpage that conveniently tells you this information
>calling other people retards

Nanonymous No.7476 [D]
>>7363
All nodes are publicly listed.