Is a disgusting excuse for women to dress like sluts.First somewhat warm day in this year and women are already outside wearing underwear-lenght shorts.You can see that they were just waiting in anticipation to put on the sluttiest outfit and go outside to be stared at.They even endured the morning cold for this moment and if it didn't look out of place they would endure the cold until the first snow.Sometimes when I see a whore who dresses like one I feel a sudden urge to spit at her.
>>11535 The women are possessed by the Jezebel spirit. They seek attention above all else and can even appear religious. Read the bible for more information.
>>11536 You know, he's the same kind of person who would be outraged (and faps to) wholy clothed women(pic related) and will be outraged until all women wear burqas and are completely asexual disgusting fuckmeats, as disgusting as he is.
I walk around fully clothed and I get lustful looks; now should I walk naked? exposed skin≠sexual
exposed skin≠attractivness
exposed skin≠whore
exposed skin≠arousal
You are nothin' but a lowly nigger and whore if you feel sexually aroused only by looking, you are lowly nigger and whore if you can feel sexually aroused about person with who you don't have any emotional connection whatsoever on mere basis of exposed skin.
>>11537 Thank God God is dead.
>>11535 First rule of being outside is to acknowledge noone. Never look at other people. Assume everyone wants your attention, deny them their pleasure. You can even do this while drawing attention to yourself by having a cute dog, epensive clothes and a beautiful hat
>>11541 Just because you sin doesn't mean you should hate yourself what kind of doctrine have you been listening too? The idea that everyone sins is true but what is also true is that Jesus came down to redeem us of our sins. Furthermore the bible is basically a guide to life and how to be a promising individual in the eyes of God book. You follow the actual teachings of the bible you become happier because it teaches that salvation is through Christ. God can save anyone it just takes the necessary effort for that person to put in to make God save them in the first place. I would highly recommend reading the bible to actually connect with God you never know you might learn something new.
>you are lowly nigger and whore if you can feel sexually aroused about person with who you don't have any emotional connection whatsoever
Puritan or just retarded? Sexual attraction is an instinct that every developed and properly functioning person has. The mere image of a beautiful form of the opposite sex is attractive. The problem is that people have devalued it in recent decades, which is what OP seems to be angry with. Instead of showing off while being conscious about it, leaving parts up to the imagination, some dumb sluts just walk around with everything hanging out, which is degenerate. And you have it backwards - you are a lowly nigger if you let the emotion and desire drive you and not have control over it, because we strive to be above animals. Leave restricting sexual drive completely to inbred desert cults.
>>11594 you seem to have misinterpretated it, ridiculously misinterpretated, so I won't go in depth
>feel sexually aroused about person...on mere basis of exposed skin
point is that exposed skin, and by exposed skin I mean only exposed skin and nothing else, in the context of course, isn't sexually attractive at all and there's nothing about "beatiful form" or being sexually aroused/attracted by
>imagination
implying ordinary human humanoid creature born to serve has any imagination lol, you are golden or by style of walk, gestures, visage, coquettish aura and so on
>looking
It's not enough for me, simple look, and the things above are not generally counted as part of look.
>any emotional connection whatsoever
when you imagine you have one
>beatiful=sexually attractive
on par with stoics retardation
even then, beauty is imagination, beauty is lie, beauty is creation of ill mind, beauty doesn't exist in real world; there are only attempts, expressions, and imperfetct material for it, like "always behind humanity" nature or "always imitating" human, consequently "ever-developing, possibly infinite" thoughts
what you find beatiful doesn't exist
>OP
the whole previous reply is on what op implied and I think I'm not far from the truth, another vector he could be attacked is that he's pseud just looking for something to rage about, which is probably as true as my previous reaction
op completely omits that good 30% of girls/women wear dresses and higpass pants/looser jeans too, at least where I live, and yes, from time to time I have to walk among serfs, you know, life, the situation is much worse when it comes to lads/men tbh anyway
btw it's not like you could ever buy something remotly good-looking in ordinary store too, unless you are copping in boutiqes, making your own clothes(which isn't easy), niche local shops or elite second-hand shops you are sentenced to wearing shit, and it's good and very natural that way; it's not like it was ever different, except you had arguably more limited spectre of clothing back then, it wouldn't help anything too, most people are disgusting no matter what they wear, you can't hide that one
>sluts
naah, I think it's, now, more utilitarian and egalitarian in nature, "waah like look at my personality"
>restricting sexual drive completely to inbred desert cults
projecting or baselessly presuming again, one can be attracted to different things, that's first, second, nobody said or implied anything about restriction, so don't bring here your "healed" cumbrain problems
tldr: It's eternal fight between harmonies and at least you can choose today, meaning that it's not only less than 10% of population that serf was able to see only on piedestals, but rougly 20% of the population that matters and now that the world is essentially classless kinda, I think we are better off today than 200 years ago.
>>11602 >by exposed skin I mean only exposed skin and nothing else
We're talking about living people (I hope), so imagining them as disjointed pieces of exposed skin is pointless. Your saucy parts are to be covered up more than, say, your forearms. Different aesthetic values.
>beauty is imagination
Sure
>beauty is lie, beauty is creation of ill mind, beauty doesn't exist in real world
I don't subscribe to relativism or whatever brand of philosophical nihilism this is, I prefer "stoic retardation".
>what you find beautiful doesn't exist
I find a lot of things beautiful and can distinguish it in-between ugly shit. It just sounds like Buddhism to me, with trying to free yourself from all worldly aspects. But then
>btw it's not like you could ever buy something remotly good-looking in ordinary store too
what about beauty being a lie, it not existing? Should I just put on some testicle-crushing, rainbow colored pants and call it a day? If you limit it to just human relationships, then it still comes into play. You pick your friends and especially your partners based on a mix of their mind and their looks. Heavy deviation in either side generally doesn't end well.
>most people are disgusting no matter what they wear, you can't hide that one
Not only that, I unironically think that there is a lot of truth in the saying that people with ugly souls have ugly exteriors.
>I think it's, now, more utilitarian and egalitarian in nature
It is, which is a shame because in terms of sex dynamics there are no such things. Men go out of their way to show off more because you need to prove your worth, whereas women generally need to try less. So when you have an advantage and still choose to try so hard, it's looked down upon because it shows a lack of self-respect. As opposed to retards that walk around with their bare chest exposed outside of the beach, which just prompts disgust, especially when they're not even fit.
>he's pseud just looking for something to rage about
Where do you think we are, normalfag central? >at least you can choose today, meaning that it's not only less than 10% of population that serf was able to see only on piedestals
It's like a dog trying to catch its own tail. Yes, at some point in time people were much more limited in what they could wear and what they could do compared to us. We caught up, now what? Fashion is still for the well-off and for the rich it's either alien-looking shit (so no change there) or trying to look homeless. At least you can travel, while there are still distinctions between people and cultures across the globe.
>I think we are better off today than 200 years ago
I'm less likely to die from the plague, famine and your average bronchitis. But family ties are slowly eroding, everyone's being concentrated in gigantic cities slowly but surely while becoming more lonely and isolated, and, instead of having a handful of assholes to blame your apparent problems on, there are now almost invisible groups of people with unimaginable power moving throughout the globe, running experiments on populations and shifting demographics. In some ways it's better, but there are no brakes on the train. Happy summer.
>>11609 Young hopes and divine dreamings All the sorrow and all the suffering What this heart in itself ever hid I'll wake, for it to live in poetic
>disjointed pieces of exposed skin
It's just humanoid creature with exposed skin, may be ugly, may be nice, he's sexualy aroused by it by just seeing that exposed skin, without choosing, wuthout taste.
>trying to free yourself from all worldly aspects
That's not the point, point is making imagination reality and beauty being platonic form, and without platonic forms ie ideals, without imagination, we would be nothing but actors in Rossellini's film where everything merely exists like the monitor you are looking at, just like that, chinese existence indifferent to existence, pure nothingness; hell of a heaven.
>greentext below
That's why I said "always imitating" human; we create art, our beauty, our attempt at beauty, and we struggle to reach the beauty, we struggle to recreate the expressions, the immpressions, the numerous 100% derivates, the fashion, un our own ways; imitating.
For me, if I may use the word beatiful, beatiful=not beautiful, anything, comme les sons nombreux des syllabes antiques or et jamais je ne pleure et jamais je ne ris; it doesn't matter, I can make beatiful anything, I'm not filthy byronist, I'm bored, I'm young. Beauty isn't ingrained in us.
Needless to say that Schopenhauer's and by extension mine philosophy is anticoprorativist, exclusive to poetic souls, to the sacred insanity.
>As opposed to retards that walk around with their bare chest exposed outside of the beach, which just prompts disgust, especially when they're not even fit.
>fit
what does it mean? certainly not interchangeable with beauty and certainly not interchangeable with healthy
>while there are still distinctions between people and cultures across the globe
people are people everywhere you go, always were, they just dropped the pretense of belief
>>11674 >he's sexualy aroused by it by just seeing that exposed skin, without choosing, wuthout taste.
Not once have I mentioned being sexually aroused by exposed skin so you are arguing with yourself here.You think you are smart by writing long winded posts but you're just a naive moron.What was the point behind defending primitive whores showing skin to attract primitive males like some sort of monkeys exposing their bottom to arouse the males?
>>11685 >have I mentioned
No, you didn't. I presumed with intent to create discussion. You have no other reason to discuss symptoms other than that, I think. Like, you are not that retarded to indulge in incredibly petty talks, are you? There's a pub for it, where you have other retards for that.
>You think you are smart by writing long winded posts but you're just a naive moron.
Thanks.
>defending
I don't defend anything. It's just how they are, how they always were. At least now they are true to their nature.
>>11674 >It's just humanoid creature with exposed skin
You're doing yourself a disservice by disassociating mind from body, when they're a mixed vessel.
>without platonic forms ie ideals, without imagination, we would be nothing but actors
Yes, but neither are we just going about our day peering into each others' minds because we're still bound by flesh and it affects how we act. Being the architect of your own body is also art, by the way. Otherwise we'd be perfectly fine with walking whale blubber.
>Schopenhauer's and by extension mine philosophy is anticoprorativist, exclusive to poetic souls, to the sacred insanity.
This all started because I disagreed with the notion of not being sexually aroused by a human body on its own (given enough imagination or parts that our DNA finds attractive being exposed). Whatever your brand of insanity is, you should at least be able to recognize that there are different types of attraction - the physical and the mental. And my point is that they should both be combined in restraint. Indulgence in the former makes you a lowly nigger (or the women OP mentions), in the latter - an idealist floating above the world, hardly interacting with it.
>certainly not interchangeable with beauty and certainly not interchangeable with healthy
Why not? It's not beauty of the mind or something platonic, but your mind and body are interlinked even on this level. By being fit and staying in shape, you are disciplining your mind. You feel better, look better and, as a result, people perceive you better. Again, overindulgence in this is the classic myth of Narcissus, too in love with himself to care about the world.
>people are people everywhere you go, always were, they just dropped the pretense of belief
People are very different, always have been, and beliefs are just a reflection of them. There are some very base similarities, but they quickly end. For an extreme example, try visiting the North Sentinelese (if you can get past the patrols around the island).
>>11685 >What was the point behind defending primitive whores showing skin
I don't think anybody is doing that in the thread. I'm just trying to point out why they do it and why they need moderation in doing it, like before.
Is a disgusting excuse for women to dress like sluts.First somewhat warm day in this year and women are already outside wearing underwear-lenght shorts.You can see that they were just waiting in anticipation to put on the sluttiest outfit and go outside to be stared at.They even endured the morning cold for this moment and if it didn't look out of place they would endure the cold until the first snow.Sometimes when I see a whore who dresses like one I feel a sudden urge to spit at her.