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Conlangs and Conscripts Nanonymous No.14014 [D][U][F][S][L][A][C] >>14045 >>14056
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Constructed Languages thread.
Have you tried to learn a conlang yet anon? What is your opinion on the Sapir-Whorf hypothesis? Share your experience.
>Sapir-Whorf
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linguistic_relativity
>Lojban
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lojban
>Ithkuil
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ithkuil
>Toki Pona
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toki_Pona
>Tengwar
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tengwar
>Quickscript
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quikscript
>Glide
http://psychedelicsandlanguage.com/category/glide-2/

Nanonymous No.14022 [D] >>14058
>What is your opinion on the Sapir-Whorf hypothesis?
Moot.
>Share your experience.
In my experience I think and reason in my mind and language has nothing to do with it. Turning thoughts into language is a seperate step.
To further this I have a general belief that the trademark problems of retard Americans all stem from them conflating syntactic compositions with reality*, and that this is a trait of autism, which could be a problem that only affects consumerist cultures who constantly sniff perfumes and Febreze and shit and eat plastic food.
*As in, they abstract reality into syntax and operate on a syntactic level, not making any syntactic mistakes, but when you turn the final syntax back to reality, it is illogical.
A concrete example of this would be any type of /pol/ logic:
>guy jokingly tags a photo of an empty room in a building he bought as #killroom on twitter
>/pol/ sees owns(suspected-pedo,room(dark/gloomy,tagged(killroom))) and concludes that the man is raping children and killing them in that room

Nanonymous No.14038 [D] >>14045
i wish i had a concrete syntax to formalize this, but, another example:
<For web browsing, why would you pay for a VPN instead of using Tor which is more secure and doesn't require trusting some get-rich-quick small business man?
>ooga booga beep boop /pol/ logic engine initiating
>parse result: free(Tor), ~free(paidVPN)
>known fact: uses(product) | free(product) -> product(you)
>deduction: uses(Tor) -> product(you)
>deduction: uses(paidVPN) -> nothing
OOGA BOOGA SEE CHECKMATE LEFTYPOL YOU ARE PRODUCT CUS U DIDNT BUY MUH VPN

Nanonymous No.14045 [D] >>14048
>>14038
Wat?
>>14014 (OP)
Conlangs are cool, I just wish I could learn them faster.
Like download to mind matrix-style.

Ithkuil is super interesting and boring at them same time, very cool.

Nanonymous No.14048 [D] >>14343
>>14045
>Wat?
Probably a bot. At least he acts like one.
>Like download to mind matrix-style.
Yeah, that would be nice. Thread related:
https://nanochanqwrwtmamtnhkfwbbcducc4i62ciss4byo6f3an5qdkhjngid.onion/l/13977.html

>Ithkuil is super interesting
I think that too, but even the creator can't speak/write in realtime using this language. It's very complex, but also very precise. Might be a nice idea for philosophical/technical discussions, dunno about real life scenarios.

Nanonymous No.14056 [D][U][F]
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>>14014
>Have you tried to learn a conlang yet anon?
Yes.
>What is your opinion on the Sapir-Whorf hypothesis?
Half of the Sapir-Whorf "team" (though they never actually proposed a hypothesis together) is jewish, but pretty much all of the most prominent critics of the Sapir-Whorf hypothesis are filthy kikes (like the one in your OP image). So I'm going to have to say yes to a weak form of linguistic relativism as postulated in the "Sapir-Whorf hypothesis," which, again, doesn't really exist but ok.

arising heathen winning eh lifting nada nada nada nada nada nada χοχο No.14058 [D]
>What is your opinion on the Sapir-Whorf hypothesis?
I'm for strong version for poorfags. It's similar to professionalism.
>>14022
>In my experience I think and reason in my mind and language has nothing to do with it. Turning thoughts into language is a seperate step.
I think number of languages [means to express] you are possible to, let us say, translate or transpose to influences not only what you think about, but the way how you think and even thinking itself too. I see languages, be it yours, mine or already created and avaliable as freeing the potential of being. So I guess I'm proponent of the weak version.
>Febreze
Those air fresheners stink and I thought it's exclusive to poorfags.
>sniff perfumes
This one I give you, every shomin ever is walking so overperfumed it's disgusting.
>plastic food
That's exclusive to poor people too. Another question is soil.

Nanonymous No.14089 [D] >>14106
>Those air fresheners stink and I thought it's exclusive to poorfags.
Well white collar wiggers in the suburbs all wear it.

Nanonymous No.14106 [D][U][F]
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>>14089
>suburbs
Which pictures are close to how normal suburb looks?

Nanonymous No.14108 [D][U][F] >>14109
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what's your point? none of those are even suburbs. and the second-last one looks like a photo i've seen from kazakhstan or some other central asian country

Nanonymous No.14109 [D]
>>14108
Nothing, just curious about how american dream looks like.
>the second-last one looks like a photo i've seen from kazakhstan or some other central asian country
Kazach is actually the first one. Second is Montreal. Third is suburbs of New Orleans. Fourth is Camarillo. Fifth is Dallas suburb. Sixth is Döbling in Wien.

Nanonymous No.14343 [D] >>14346
>>14048
>Ithkuil
>dunno about real life scenarios.

Quijindael (or whatever the creators name was) wrote a book with his brother about it where it was a computer interface ("Beyond Antimony by John & Paul Quijada).
He was also making a simplified "learnable version" of Ithkuil that was going to be a different conlang of a sort. Not sure where that went.

Unrelated:
JRR Tolken was a conlanger, and the Lord of the Rings series was an excuse for him to use it.

Nanonymous No.14346 [D] >>14349
>>14343
>He was also making a simplified "learnable version"
Didn't know that. That would be great. Do you have any resources on that?
>JRR Tolken was a conlanger
Yes, in OP I mentioned his conscript Tengwar. I think it's the most beautiful script every made (that I know of).

Nanonymous No.14349 [D] >>14360
>>14346
>Ithkuil
I believe they call it TNIL (The New Ithkuil Language).
He posts updates on the sub-Reddit about it.
Here's the most recent one:
https://old.reddit.com/r/Ithkuil/comments/cydknj/update_no_22_list_of_approximately_450_roots_for/

Nanonymous No.14360 [D]
>>14349
Wow. This is really nice. I participated from this subreddit some years ago, but didn't know JQ was still working on it.
The suggestion I gave at the time was to enable Ithkuil to be parsed on yacc, just like Lojban. This would ensure non-ambiguity.
I hope this TNIL will solve the issue, as well as the other ones in Ithkuil (mainly the over-complexity).