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Fight against reCAPTCHA, Save nano-chan Nanonymous No.10080 [D][U][F][S][L][A][C]
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Every day nano-chan tries to browse the internet and on half of the websites she is faced with the dreaded reCAPTCHA just cause she happens to be a tor grill, everytime she sees it her only choice is to cry the pain away, not only she is forced to enable javascript, but she also has to whitelist google's third party spyware servers and if it was not enough she is also discriminated against just cause she happen to be a robot!
This needs to stop, we need to save nano-chan from google.

Joking aside, how do we stop reCAPTCHA? It's literally everywhere, it's literally a spyware botnet, it's being used to train AIs that will be used to enslave us, it's fucking annoying if you block javascript and it's also completely unnecessary.
Why don't websites just make their own captcha or use a self hosted captcha?
It's not a matter of money cause it would not cost anything more.
It's not a matter of usability/convenience cause reCAPTCHA is a pain in the ass to use.
So i just don't get it. Why are webdevs so braindead...

Is there a way to fix this?

Nanonymous No.10081 [D][U][F]
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>Why don't websites just make their own captcha or use a self hosted captcha?
Convenience. What gives you the best amout-of-work/security ratio? Thats right, its google. Honestly anybody who uses it is a massive faggot and that even the botnet aside because that shit is peak anti-user. Back in the day when there was just one, it was somehow acceptable but now its pure evil.
Even sites i would have expected to man up and deal with it themselves just throw it in there.
> webdevs so braindead
Imho its the users fault that they are fine with taking jewgles massive black cock up their assholes. I think if we made it somehow clear that the power is in their hands and that they are right in thinking that its not ok, options would start to pop up, such as a simple refusal of ever solving one again regardless of the consequences. If enough people got on the train, it would either disappear or at the very least force google to take it down a notch.

I really wonder if its really necessary to make me solve fucking 10 of them or its just them trying to get as much neural-network training as possible. Also if you sign in, it will let you through no fuss almost every time so it might also be that they are trying to get me to deanonymize myself so that they can shove ads down my throat more effectively.


Nanonymous No.10082 [D]
Some websites you can bypass google captcha by emailing the webmaster of the website.

Nanonymous No.10083 [D] >>10103
Making captcha is hard.
As a general rule, any given captcha is useless against a good enough CV (computer vision) specialist.
That brought us to the point of requiring really nasty unusable captchas which you cannot develop yourself. Or maybe you can but the time invested does not justify itself.
Hence we have zoogle. Honestly their captcha isn't even that good, but it's good enough to stop a random script kiddie. Now people don't have to invest their time into making some shit test that a bunch of pajeets could solve manually.
>Is there a way to fix this?
I don't see any. I think people have to boycott all the shitty sites with recaptcha and make this business practice unprofitable, but I don't see it happening until google really drops the ball. Honestly, if Google just disappeared one day, a lot of replacements would follow and they are not irreplaceable at all.

Nanonymous No.10086 [D] >>10087
>>10800
You can pay pajeets to solve them, i wont mention any sites because i havent used them in a while. Should be stupid cheap like 1000 captchas for 5$. But if you really want to have fun and btfo google then you need to make a cracker for it.
I will probably get around to it someday because I think its funny as hell to shit on google by cracking it. I will try to list the challenges one might face when doing it. It is very possible and almost easy with the right tool.
You would probably target the js version because forcing non js version might cause problems since sites might use js on the rest of the page to handle other fields or do xsrf something or other. So im referring to the js bridge picker implementation.
The biggest issue is identifying the images, to get them i would use js injection like the "element to canvas" js tool built into ff.
Save the canvas as png then use pajeethon opencv to split the grid into its images and also grab the target object txt with js as well.
Identifying the individual options is simple but not easy, scale up the tiny image, use a coutour/edge detection algo to find the edges and give a higher res view of the polygons in the image (neural nets like that).
Stuff like storefronts and mountains will be way harder to single out than fire hyrants for example.
We cut out the scaled up foreground object we think is what is to be identified using a neural net like https://github.com/kvmanohar22/caffe
then we take that blob and send it to another neural net which actually tries to classify it, there is a pre trained tensorflow model that can do like 200 objects (using googles shit directly against them lol) This link has some useful info https://www.learnopencv.com/faster-r-cnn-object-detection-with-pytorch/
Training a neural net is a massive pain so dont do that unless its last resort, like use "potted plant" detector in COCO db for fire hydrant might work better than you think. "Store fronts" might just be a matter of finding pics with the most rectangles (4 point contours)
Then if you manage 80% accuracy classifying the images all thats left is logic to click them and fool the js that tracks your cursor and shit.
Not even a month long project if you have experience with any of this. Definitely a good challenge to learn.

Nanonymous No.10087 [D]
>>10086
You do not need to save as a canvas to get the image. They may have changed this in the last couple years since I attempted breaking it, but you are free to redownload the image they display to you. If Google was smart they would make the image link expire once you downloaded it once. That image will show the 3x3 grid in it's entirety and you would have to split it up yourself. Another issue for object detection is that Google injects a lot of noise into the images if you have a low score. Another vulnerability with the design is that if you swap ip addresses you can get the same challenge again.

Nanonymous No.10100 [D] >>10103
Another way to combat reCaptcha that is to create a viable alternative that doesn't suck. If it turns out really well, then jewgle will have to adapt and improve reCaptcha to keep up.

Nanonymous No.10103 [D] >>10115
>>10083
>>Is there a way to fix this?
>I don't see any.
How? This isn't even a tangible problem outside of webshit. They could start by using captchas only where needed, which is basically comment fields and nothing else. And even in comment field it's fucking retarded to use a captcha unless you're under an active flooding attack. A captcha literally remotely wont stop in any way someone who just wants to drop a viagra advertisement on the website once in a while. He will have captcha-farmed (paying people to solve captchas, replacing legit ones one websites, replacing legit ones in people's browsers via malware, etc) that or even entered it by hand, since it's such a low rate of posting in the first place.
Then there's also the fact that we should just be using a distributed Web of Trust (like in Freenet FMS) to filter spam and no captchas at all.
>>10100
nanochan's captcha is literally better than googles tripe. all this "ooga booga google has to solve hard problems" is just made up. they literally just block your IP address and that's how they "solve" spam

Nanonymous No.10113 [D] >>10116 >>10265 >>10284
Are sites with reCaptcha even worth using tbh?

Nanonymous No.10115 [D] >>10117 >>10161 >>10188
>>10103
>they literally just block your IP address and that's how they "solve" spam
bretty smart tbh. If nanochan did that, we could probably cull the amount of hapa spam. Especially at google scale, any given VPN/24 probably gets kill filed pretty quick.

Nanonymous No.10116 [D]
>>10113
It does, in a way, show the kind of respect the people running the place have for their users, doesnt it.

Nanonymous No.10117 [D] >>10118
>>10115
>torsite
<blocking ip addresses

Nanonymous No.10118 [D] >>10191
>>10117
>being that one autistic faggot who doesnt get the joke

Nanonymous No.10161 [D]
>>10115
no, it's not smart. gas yourself

Nanonymous No.10188 [D] >>10251
>>10115
Let's block all those filthy TOR drugtard pedos

Nanonymous No.10191 [D]
>>10118
I don't get the joke either. Mind enlightening me?

sage sage No.10193 [D]
F to pay respects for a decent thread.

Nanonymous No.10246 [D] >>10251
Don't browse the modern web, that's the easiest way. Whenever I need to do personal stuff like online banking or other administrative tasks, that's when I use a browser like Iridium on OpenBSD. Otherwise I'm on Linux framebufffer A20 ARM SBC with Lynx and Links, and I don't even bother with Tor except a few places like this.

Nanonymous No.10251 [D] >>10257 >>10259 >>10260
>>10188
Go away you filthy NSA kike piece of shit. I bet you're posting from clearnet.
>>10246
>oy vey just stop browsing the web goy, only us chosen people should have the privilege of internet!
the nose knows

Nanonymous No.10257 [D]
>>10251
There's jack shit worth browsing on the modern web anyway. I stopped participating in a big gaming web forum when they converted the software to some modern mandatory javascript browser crap. But by that time a lot of reddit/facebook crowd were invading anyway, so it was no big loss in the end.

Nanonymous No.10259 [D]
>>10251
>>oy vey just stop browsing the web goy, only us chosen people should have the privilege of internet!
yes, the illuminati are using clickbait written in node.js

Nanonymous No.10260 [D][U][F]
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>>10251
if you did 5 minutes of research you'd know entry level illuminati use advanced FTP protocols

Nanonymous No.10265 [D]
you can only win with terrorism and abuse

>>10113
>Are sites with reCaptcha even worth using tbh?
no, but they are good targets for abuse

Nanonymous No.10277 [D]
All tech needs to be rebuilt from the ground up, with less fluff and bullshit and options that get designed but never implemented because the ideas were bad and stupid.
Daily reminder we had 1080p streaming, true multitasking, and EFFICIENT CODE in 2006.
13 years of nothing but pajeetbloat, and no sign of it stopping ever.

Nanonymous No.10283 [D] >>10284
they're mostly trash. some useful for datamining, like any sort of website for reviewing consumer companies/services/products.
ebay
amazon
etc
any review in itself will be useless americunt garbage, but if you datamine them all you might find some good info

Nanonymous No.10284 [D]
>>10283
meant to quote >>10113

Nanonymous No.10330 [D]
It appears that onion archive is now using crapcha, damn it.