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Lossy Audio Codecs / Ignorance of Codec Obsolescence Nanonymous No.4288 [D][U][F][S][L][A][C]
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>need to deal with using lossy audio rather than lossless audio for whatever reason
>mfw its codec isn't opus
Why do the VAST majority of niggers use any lossy codec over opus? I can't think of anything aac, speex, (god forbid) mp3, etc. offer over it. It's not like, say, h264 vs. h265 where the superiority of h265 over h264 is not entirely linear; h265 requires about 10x the cpu power to decode compared to h264, for example.
There are no trade-offs with opus like there are in the world of lossy video codecs. It's just flat out superior and technically obsoletes all other lossy audio formats. A quick run down of why opus is best:
>lowest latency (lower than codecs designed specifically for latency at the cost of quality and bit rate range
>highest quality per bit (higher than proprietary codecs like aac)
>abnormally large bitrate range (no other lossy codec besides maybe vorbis even remotely competes)
I could go on. Alas, what do nanons think about ignorance of codec obsolescence? Why do so many people have trouble recognizing something as objectively superior?

Nanonymous No.4289 [D] >>4290 >>4297

It IS the best lossy codec, but software decoding on some embedded platforms (e.g. your typical Sansa player) is a lot harder than stuff like AAC or Vorbis; which is why I still use Vorbis.

Honestly, you can't put AAC and Vorbis users in the same bag as retards still using mp3. They're both very advanced formats having mature implementations.

Nanonymous No.4290 [D] >>4291 >>4292

>>4289
I'm really looking for a music player to ditch my phone, but i can't find anything decent that has good disk space for my lossless music and is not botnetted with android, i'm thinking of building my own, do you guys have any idea on how to build one? i'm not op also

Nanonymous No.4291 [D]

>>4290
I use an sansa clip plus with rockbox installed which supports up to 2TB of micro sd storage. It can play flac but I'm not an audiophile autist so I have no idea how it stacks up against $300 portable DACs for playing high quality lossless audio on the go.

Nanonymous No.4292 [D] >>4293

>>4290
Also you can make your own out of a single board computer with an audio jack like a raspberry pi. You can look at projects like the piphone or the zero terminal and probably cobble something together even with very little electronics experience, but the end result would be clunky and terrible no matter what

Nanonymous No.4293 [D]

>>4292
Looking into http://www.rpimusicplayer.com/ for good audio quality you still need a DAC board, and then a battery and physical buttons, uhmm end up being pretty bulky, not that i particularly care, i say it's worth trying

Nanonymous No.4297 [D] >>4306

I use vorbis because it sounds better, opus doesn't have -iblock option too and pretty much nothing where it's relevant for me can play opus. https://wiki.hydrogenaud.io/index.php?title=Recommended_Ogg_Vorbis#Advanced_Encoder_Settings
Maybe opus treats in its own way someway, I don't know.
>>4289
AAC is quite power hungry compared to vorbis. I listen to flac on my fiio x3

Nanonymous No.4306 [D] >>4307 >>4308

>>4297
>I use vorbis because it sounds better, opus doesn't have -iblock option too
Xiph created both Vorbis and Opus and they say Opus renders other lossy codecs obsolete.
>pretty much nothing where it's relevant for me can play opus
What can't?
>AAC is quite power hungry compared to vorbis.
Lastest test (2018) in https://www.rockbox.org/wiki/CodecPerformanceComparison gives:
[code]
Musepack q5: 1240% realtime
Vorbis aotuv q5: 930% (I use q4, personally)
LAME v2: 750%
FDK-AAC v4: 700%
Opus 128k: 430%
[/code]
so I wouldn't call AAC power hungry; even if Vorbis or Musepack are the best performance:size codecs here.
>I listen to flac
Are you retarded or do you have an an discography?
>on my fiio x3
At least it has an SD card slot, but the software is shit and has no random album mode, right?

If only the Clip+ wasn't dropped by Sandisk (still have one and an emergency Fuze+).

Nanonymous No.4307 [D]

>>4306
ant discography*

Nanonymous No.4308 [D] >>4310

>>4306
>Xiph created both Vorbis and Opus and they say Opus renders other lossy codecs obsolete.
And? Like I said, vorbis sounds better to me.
>what can't
for example my dap or pretty much every tv I ever ran into
>test
thanks for correcting me
>ant discographIy
90 albums 24-96
400 albums 16-44
Enough for me, I don't listen that much, when I feel like it I just add and remove some, once in a blue moon.
>random album mode
Why whould you need that?
>software is shit
Show me dap with good software that can play flac.

Nanonymous No.4310 [D] >>4322

>>4308
>And? Like I said, vorbis sounds better to me.
placebo.tga
>for example my dap
Won't buy Fiio, thanks for the tip.
>24-96
Downsample them, retard.
>Why whould you need that?
Because I don't have an ant discography and because you're supposed to listen to whole albums.
>Show me dap with good software that can play flac.
They can all play flac and Rockbox is the only correct firmware.

Nanonymous No.4322 [D] >>4323 >>4324

>>4310
>someone hears differently and finds one codec superior to another
<muh science, muh people
>someone is young or has more developed hearing so he can hear the differencies in clarity between lossy and lossless codecs
<muh placebo, muh retard
>400 albums
>ant discography
>just convert your 1,5 tb music folder fam
>not wanting music on your dap that suits the usage of dap
Like I said, I don't listen that much so it's enough for me for a long time, it's more like 470 albums anyway since majority is 270 mb and I can always convert to vorbis too, meaning 2700-2800 albums, not even half, opinion discarded because you think I am you.
>you're supposed to listen to whole albums
This doesn't need to be necessarily true.
>muh random album
I don't listen randomly to albums.
>rockbox
Yes, it is, but I chose ease of access instead, conformist, I agree, but what of it? It suits my needs.

Nanonymous No.4323 [D]

>>4322
Also where the fuck did I imply I don't listen to whole albums, concertos and symphonies?

Nanonymous No.4324 [D] >>4325

>>4322
No need to be mad at people pointing out your audiophile delusions.
>I don't listen randomly to albums.
That's why I said ant discography. When you really get into music and your collection gets big enough, you need to eliminate your bias while choosing what to listen to, or you'll only listen to a fraction of it.
>Also where the fuck did I imply I don't listen to whole albums, concertos and symphonies?
Where did I imply that? Just answering to your "Why whould you need that?".

Nanonymous No.4325 [D]

>>4324
Why do you base everything on presumptions and projecting?