How exactly would white terror have to look like, to be successful. I see, that saint tarrant has inspired many people, and accelerationism is the antidote to the increasing authoritarianism of our states. We've also got an ideal to strife towards, and an enemy to fight against. So we've reached a state, where we can say, that we're here to stay, we will be strengthened by the states response, assuming, that they don't outright kill us, and that we will grow.
But what would be necessary to get rid of our states? How would that look like? I mean, we all should agree, that reforming them is impossible. I'd still assume, that people like donald trump et al at least tried to reform their system, but they utterly failed, and succeeded only, where it went along with the goals of the system.
So how to get rid of (((them)))? So far the only we've achieved is to secure our own existence as a fringe element of society. At least for a while, but maybe even not in the long run. We won't win any democratic elections, we don't have the numbers and equipment to replace the state by force, we're not organized enough to overtake our own ethnic enclaves and do a secession, and we're not violent enough to become a defacto ruling minority over some enclave, like the mafia once did, and streetgangs do.
What we may achieve is to rock the boat and spark off some chaos. But things will get back to normal after a short while.
We have to use whatever money we have, making sure it doesn't go into jewish pockets. Support people of our own who have it difficult. Reach out for young men for seek guidance.
There is a need to rock the boat, but there is also a need for long term planning.
>>5455 >people like trump tried to reform the system
You lost me right there, it's like saying orban tried to reform the system. You 'workers' will never learn.
I sound like long-term strategy. If you spend money on Gillette and similar brands, you finance the enemy. Whenever a fellow of our kind is unemployed, we have to help him find a job. Young men shouldn't act recklessly and get beaten by the system before they have a chance to fight back. They should also have access to educational material and learn about history and about what we are fighting for.
I am not advocating doing nothing, I advocate doing something. If you are under 20, I understand you may not be in position to follow this, but any mature man in the movement has an obligation to know that building a community requires a proper effort. A solid community results in solid coordination instead of scattered actions.
>>5464 >Reach out for young men for seek guidance.
Women too. They're much more fucked, than we are. I think, that modern values are bad for men, but soulcrushing for women. White man can recover from anti-white discrimination, just like niggers did in the US. Niggers aren't worse off now, just because they once had to sit in the end of the bus. But white women are absolutely fucked without any hope for recovery, if they follow the modern path. Their soul is getting destroyed, and they're much more receptive towards the mainstream with all its brainwashing, and they're mostly not willing to REALLY rock the boat.
>Support people of our own who have it difficult.
Actually... How? I personally am trying to reach young people, who have it bad, but they're so isolated nowadays, that basically everything that counts is the herd in their school-environment, and maybe social workers led by the (((system))).
Trying to reach adults is somewhat easier, if you can get them to overcome their (((conditioning))), mainly by showing them, that it's fun, to break social taboos. But even there, the best thing I've been able to achieve IRL, is to create a small isolated echochamber. Which is much for the few people within, because they're sick of constantly retreating. But all that really does, is to fulfill a psychological need of a single-digit number of people. I know, if everyone would do this, we'd already have won. But most people don't.
>There is a need to rock the boat
absolutely. The more prople do so, the merrier. People won't do shit, as long as they're feeling secure and don't have other people as an example.
>5466
I'm on board with saying, that trump eats jewjewcum. But he has a populistic base he depends upon, and he's sometimes trying to give them what they want, so they'll vote for him again. In those cases one can see, how powerless he really is. That's my point. The system can't be changed by voting or by bringing /ourguy/ into office, because people are powerless against the (((system))), even if in office.
>>5438 Nobody will kill us. We will kill all of our enemies, and create a White ethnoworld soon.
There is no future for jews or any other non-whites.
There is no future for leftists, betas and degenerates.
All of them will be killed. Only us will remain alive. We will live on, way past the genocide of our enemies.
Do you think he`ll be reelected in 2020? Forgive me for inquiring on an elementary level question, but I have been thinking about this for a while.
Back in 2016, the hype around Trump was the fulfillment of, I'd argue, White leadership. Of course, no one would explicitly state it, but that may have been a prominent undertone among White voters. But, after going through 2017 and 2018 with a Republican majority in the House and Senate, nothing really of note worthiness was accomplished. At least, in the eyes of more aware individuals who sympathize with the narrative of White Nationalism and The Great Replacement.
For Example:
>No Wall
>Internet Censorship
>No Lock Her Up
>Illegal Immigration at it's highest since Dubya
>No repeal and replace Obamacare
>Couldn`t stop the caravan
>Couldn`t end DACA
>Couldn`t end birthright citizenship
>Couldn`t invest finances to improve infrastructure
>Couldn`t pass a working travel ban
>Coulnd`t close the Wall Street special interest loopholes
>Couldn`t resist bombing Syria
>Couldn`t pull out of NATO
>Anti bds laws
>Gave Israel 38 billion
>Gave the 1% a tax cut
>Farmers bill
>Omnibus bill
>Amnesty bill
>Crime "reform" bill
>No unclassified FISA
>No Awan indictment
>No Uranium One investigation
>55k sealed indictments went nowhere
>Hired a bunch of neocons
>Continued skirmishes in Middle East
I have been considering what individuals now think of Trump, aware individuals. I feel confident saying that the Boomers will still vote for him in 2020, but for someone like me, I felt that this was the last trick up our sleeve. At this point, I may as well vote Democrat to accelerate the collapse of the State.
>>5438 >but you are going to have to kill us to silence us.
Seems to be trending that way. Look at the lengths they went to persecute civnats (at their own event).
Jewgel, NYPD, Manhattan DA, and antifa all allied against the Proud Boys...
https://archive.is/Qh7tJ >A New York City police detective, when asked on the witness stand this week how he had identified members of a far-right group called the Proud Boys, gave an unexpected answer: the department, investigating a brawl in the city last October that involved the group, had relied in part on information posted online, much of it gathered by anonymous, self-described anti-fascists.
>“There was a tremendous amount of what we call ‘doxxing,’” the detective, Thomas Mays, testified, using a slang term for the practice of disclosing personal information online. “Names that were given for the individuals.”
https://archive.is/gMVgN >Law enforcement authorities in New York are joining a nationwide trend to push Google to share phone data on anyone using its location tracking services near the time and scene of a crime.
>The technique uses a type of search warrant known as a “reverse location” or “geofence” warrant, which gives authorities location information on Google users who have Android phones or use apps, such as Google Maps.
>From this bucket of data, law enforcement then try to figure out which phones may be tied to suspects or possible witnesses.
>The use of this surveillance technique has not been confirmed in New York City until now. An investigator for the Manhattan DA revealed it during testimony last week in a case involving a politically-charged assault from last year.
If they're doing this to a bunch of mutt civic nationalists, we have to assume they'll spare no effort to take us down.
>Kill your mobile goy tracker.
>De-Google.
>Don't let the enemy pick the fight; do it on your own terms (time, place, methods, ect...)
>>5471 Trump just unleashed the FBI onto right wing internet communities and he'll weaponized them further when he signs the "Red Flag" legislation in to law.
This is all part of the very same DOJ whose leadership conspired to remove Trump from office via the 25th Amendment (secretly recording meetings to demonstrate Trump's supposed mental health deficits making him unfit for office). Now all of a sudden he trusts them to go after us without such bias?
I think he'll get reelected. Not because he's such a good president, but because there are no alternatives with a platform. I assume, that biden will be his opponent, and I think, that biden is so boring, that he'll have a low turnout, and will therefore lose. Trump seems to be an okay president, at least in relative terms. There are no new major wars, there's something like a peace process with north korea, and the economy appears to be okay. Compared to the other human trash the US had as leaders, trump actually seems to be a good president.
I think his fuck-you attitude is what got him elected. And of course, this attitude was gone as soon as he was in office. Probably simply because the people, who get you into positions of power, aren't the same people, that help you to keep power. As a ruler you often need to betray your former allies to stay in power. I think that's what happened. He simply told people, what they wanted to hear, so he can get elected, and then he slipped into his role as president. And, to be fair, he kept more of his promises, than other politicians would have.
Democracy works by convincing people, that you'll give them what they want. Not by giving them what they want, and especially not by giving them what's best for them. We can't vote ourselves out of the quagmire we're in. People aware of the great replacement are desperate, and we supported trump, because he wasn't the same shit as every other politician we've ever seen. He was something new. But it was an illusion to think, that we can get what we want by just voting in the right person.
Maybe we should see trump as a cautionary tale - We've tried all we could, and gave the political process the best shot it ever had. Trump was no corrupt politician. He was an outsider who financed his own campaign. He didn't owe anything to anybody, and apparently even wasn't blackmailable. The elites and the media went crazy, and they hated him like nobody was ever hated before. He was as independent as a candidate can possibly be, he was not part of the political system, and he was megalomaniacal and ruthless enough to make it believable, that he'll go through with what he says, no matter what.
And yet he hasn't achieved what he has promised to achieve. Maybe he tried, maybe he didn't. I'd even give him the benefit of the doubt, and say, that he did his best, but failed. It doesn't matter. The only thing we can learn from this is that, despite our best efforts, and a once-in-a-lifetime-chance, we've achieved nothing by voting. Now there is no further doubt about the fact, that voting won't help. We should never again waste our energy by participating in the political process. Nobody will come and save us. Accelerationism and secessionism are the two only hopes we have left.
Pray to the saints for those two gifts, and let us never forget them. We should tell the cautionary tale of donald trump to anyone who thinks, that participating in the political process makes sense. Trump really was the best candidate imaginable, and if he failed, then there really is no hope for change by voting.
>>5478 >Maybe we should see trump as a cautionary tale - We've tried all we could, and gave the political process the best shot it ever had.
Ideally, Trump is their last chance, not ours... What we send next isn't going to be some loud-mouth jew york billionaire who said the right things; The escalation goes as follows
>ASK
>TELL (we are here)
>MAKE
I have this to say to young men reading this thread:
Do not despair. Improve yourself any way you can, acquire new skills, seek self-education, keep fit.
Engage in activism, but also learn about police tactics and how the ZOG works. Do not listen to FBI shills who try to entrap you. Choose your battles wisely.
If you know of a shop owned by one of us, take your business there. If you own a shop, give a better price to one of us.
Read about revolutions and secret societies, use Tor and stop feeding data into NSA through jewbook and jewtube and the like.
Do not follow blindly anyone. Learn how to use your own judgement.
>>5509 >Improve yourself any way you can, acquire new skills, seek self-education, keep fit.
<I'm natural piece of shit but I learned by looking at people superior to me that they've achieved superiority by working.
Fuck off, you'll never understand why you are such inferior piece of shit.
Remember C-ville and Jeff Schoep? Now news are all over the place about how he handed his organization to some nigger and announced his (official) cooperation with the jews.
Yes, White Terror has taken place in the past. But there were the right circumstances that allowed it to happen. And even then, the people who fought were betrayed by the establishment. Because the enemy is not only the left, but also the right.
Right now, first we have to educate the young about the ZOG and how to operate in a hostile environment. Our people shouldn't be wasted.
I really miss 8pol so much. Especially the brenton tarrant threads. Whenever I had time, I looked, if some shitposter uploaded some new shit. I've been so happy.
Comfyness is the calm before the storm. Acceleration is inevitable. You cannot alienate and demonize such a large group of people without consequences. We are only at the very start. Those we see making sacrifices currently are merely the ill-prepared vanguard (Saint Tarrant accepted). As more lose their stake in a society that refuses to listen to them, so more will make themselves heard in the only way left available to them. History is on our side and our fight is just
As an oldfag I've experienced more than one situation, where I thought, that now everything is going to change. It didn't. In fact, it got worse and worse.
When I'm now thinking back, about the time when I was young, it's hard to believe, how much freedom has been lost.
The internet was much freer, most places were like a high-IQ-version of 8pol. There were usenet boards, where people openly discussed how to make bombs, drugs, and nasty poisons, of how to blow up buildings, and so on. And those people were professionals, like nerdy architects, chemists, and demolition experts, who simply found those topics to be interesting. As a matter of fact, there were youngsters, whose hobby it was, to defoliate large swaps of forrest by detonating huge ANFOS/ANNM charges. I mean, really large bombs, that could collapse a skyscraper, if placed at the right spot. And their videos were on youtube. They could buy many the ingredients without being asked questions. AN was a readily available fertilizer, and NM was sold for racing cars in large quantities, no questions asked. And it was easy to get hold of firearms, which is impossible now, where I'm living. You could, more or less legally, but in any case easily, manufacture drugs like magic mushrooms or salvia, and got the ingridients for amphetamine and meth, if you were good in chemistry. And even those tutorials were shared on youtube. You could easily buy the most extreme literature, like for example the paladin stuff, and nobody cared, or the stuff from Pr. Pierce, which would set a red flag in your police-file by now. As a matter of fact, the terrorist propaganda of my youth was shared on my schoolyard. We were all into it, because we thought it to be edgy, to read why those people waged war against the state. If you were into sick stuff, even childporn, you could find it on mainstream sites, because those sites said "Fuck you, we're platforms", and that was it. You could open all kinds of accounts via tor and without any tracable identification - as a matter of fact, it was considered bad behaviour, to tell anyone who you are. Stuff like facebook was unthinkable exactly for the reason, that anyone, who could get doxxed, would be doxxed and ridiculed, just for entertainment. And nobody cared. GPG usage, and knowledge about anonymization, was much more common than today, where everyone carries his own high-tech-bug, for which he has paid lots of money, and tells corporations every single detail about his life there is to know. People joked about niggers, cripples, and the holocaust, all the time, even schoolchildren, and nobody cared.
That's how it once has been. We've already walked a long walk, until we arrived where we are now. BTW, as an oldfag, I'm innocent of this. There was nothing I could have done, to prevent any of this. I didn't vote even once, but there was nobody to vote for, who would have changed our path, and there was no kind of "community service" that could have convinced people otherwise. For most people every loss of freedom made sense, because the media presented something as totally awful, and the politicians fostered their careers by acting. Just as it is now. Of course, the people pretended to make a fuss. But in the end, they were convinced by what the newspapers and the TV said, because if there were something wrong with all of this, someone in the news would point it out.
Fuck, I hate people. People suffered, bled and died, so we can have a good life, and we've collectively pissed it away, because the TV said so, and the politician's cronies wanted to make some money by providing "services".
>>5600 What you see in USA today has been happening in Italy since the 70's. Commies and antifas murdering people without fear of punishment, widespread terrorism so that you had little chance of survival if you didn't join some communist party. And the police would turn the other way but would go after you if someone told them that you are a fascist. And all leftist chicks would make a point that no one should date someone who is not with the left.
Then the internet came and it was an oasis of freedom. Those early days of the internet were pretty exciting, but then leftists and cryptojews started infiltrating existing web boards and usenet boards, they started taking control and demanding political correctness and throwing out those with different opinions. If they couldn't outright ban them they would start brigades against them. That's the way the left and the jews work and there is no other way to counter it but using the same means.
What I'm getting at is this:
The system has control, and we must learn how to circumvent it. We often think that there was some victory against the system, like when Trump won, or when Brexit won. The system always tries to recover and even turn such incidents to its advantage. If we are to win, we have to work on many fronts.
One of them is creating autonomous zones. Find a few like-minded people, then start some sort of unofficial club with various activities, athletic, cultural, educational, engage more and more people while still exercising control over who gets in.
The system knows that some people want a revolution, so the system will do anything to crash them. Everyone has to be careful and learn how to be a revolutionary without the system crashing him.
Read up on Hal Turner, he was instructed by the FBI to tell all kinds of provocative things so that the feds would monitor who would reply and find out who has similar ideas. So be very careful, pick your battles instead of letting the enemy pick his, avoid being exposed, study so that you have the skill to think for yourself.
Hail our Saints!
Hail White Terror!