>Seeing "Botnet" this and "Botnet" that everywhere
Kind of sick of it. It's like a never ending game of speculation and smug elitism. So I'll ask /g/ a question, as a caveman that just does a lot of reading but with very little programming expertise. I'll let the focus of this thread answer what relationship should humans have with their machines (Dichotomy: demanding relationship computer like a human GF OR "just wurks" machine), and obviously the following questions.
Now I'm not a computer programmer. I don't want to waste my time trying to create unattainable perfect security. However, I understand that I should have steps to do that, and obviously good hardware. I want to be able to have my contacts and personal info remain confidential. I have good opsec but is there any Software that just handles the best configuration out of the box and that has no backdoors? I shouldn't have to learn all this nerd shit to have something the machine should already be doing. I mean computers should work , and not having us constantly work on them. I don't want to make the computer my life. I also don't want to be in expert in something that will just be outdated in a couple years or the skill won't be relevant anymore. Is there something that "just wurks". And no, not fucking windows or Ubuntu (analytic spying and paying globalists).
I have heard BSD is a good standard for security and is pretty usable but doesn't have the amount software you would get in a Linux OS like binary packages for Debian or even source builds on Gentoo. (Spare me, waiting to build tons of source code and reading every line of code to securely verify unless you waste years trying to understand it) Then again, what software would you possibly want? Quality over quantity. I guess just building from source what I would need just suffices, but then again why use computers if you don't use them for useful shit. I guess BSD seems good but not as fast as Gentoo :(
Maybe I'll just airgap with Qubes/Whonix and pray no persistent malware is present. Use Snailmail with encrypted SD cards. Maybe just plain old learn how to broadcast radio.
I just think we should stop wasting our lives impossibly building and maintaining a 'near perfect' machine to avoid a botnet. The real botnet is irl making us into niggercattle. Many young people are getting sucked into a corporate internet that they have no chance of competing in or having very little say about it. Either that, or they are fooled into a fake alternative known as the Open Source or FSF purity spiral cannibalism that rots their social lives and very communities away. They have it backwards thinking that interacting with machines will give them more freedom than rather interacting with fellow man (not sub-mans). Humans for now, control the damn machines. You need to confront the master, not the spawn.
>ur just a cavenigger
True. I however have wrote basic C++ and python programs before (then immediately forgot because skills rust and irrelevant brain memory). It's not like I couldn't throw away my club and spear and learn in depth. It's just that it would be a waste of time. I'm not saying computers serve no purpose. I'm just saying that our computers (phones included) are starting to own us. This bickering our speculative things is a distraction of the real issue. Why is there no balance? Hence, why there is no real security today.
>when ever disagreements arise in /g/
Who to even trust? I also see snobby elitism quite frequently with no explanation.
I applaud you Tor negros that make these onions work. If it were me I would probably just austically do it by the books while never understanding the underlying mechanisms of why it works, which is a recipe for disaster.
SHORT: What OS? What hardware? What network? What society? What is your mindset on security and privacy in 2020? What is the perfect balance between security and no life? What can anyone possibly do without wasting their life learning?
>What OS?
OpenBSD.
>doesn't have the amount software you would get in a Linux OS like binary packages for Debian
Not true.
https://man.openbsd.org/pkg_add >What hardware?
Depends on what you need.
>What network?
Any.
>What society?
All suck.
>What is your mindset on security and privacy in 2020?
Don't use "IoT", "cloud", "smartphones" and social midia. That's enough.
>What is the perfect balance between security and no life?
Not perfect, but the above is good enough.
>What can anyone possibly do without wasting their life learning?
The above.
How do you read a lot and not pick up on ways to make your writing coherent? This is buzzword diarrhea with a side of "I just read Ted's manifesto yesterday", with special mentions going to
>I'm not a computer programmer
>I just think we should stop wasting our lives building and maintaining a 'near perfect' machine
and
>I shouldn't have to learn all this nerd shit
>very little programming expertise
>they are fooled into a fake alternative known as the Open Source or FSF purity spiral cannibalism
Stop taking all your knowledge from memes and actually read, maybe even put things into practice. People aren't snobby, you are just really fucking stupid and installing a different OS won't save you from that fact.
>Seeing "Botnet" this and "Botnet" that everywhere
Keeps you on your toes or tests your knowledge of whether that's bullshit or not.
>>7984 >I want to be able to have my contacts and personal info remain confidential.
This kind of security is less about what you use and more about what you don't use. Don't use a smartphone, social media, or a Gmail/Yahoo/AOL/Other major provider email address. Use and pen-and-paper address book for your contacts. Now your contacts and personal information are secure.
>SHORT: What OS? What hardware? What network? What society? What is your mindset on security and privacy in 2020? What is the perfect balance between security and no life? What can anyone possibly do without wasting their life learning?
Use a patched and up-to-date Windows for work and the few personal things you need the internet for. Otherwise, get the fuck off the computer and experience real life.
>>7984 >to be in expert in something
You don't have to become "in expert". You pick a distro and read the manual. Its that simple its not rocket science or computer science for that matter. If you have simple uses you don't need complex setups. You are thinking too much about this. <cavenigger
>>7995 >pen-and-paper
Ideally this is recommended. If you are targeted by the "5 eyes" that paper may become pertinent in an investigation. You should be careful.
>What OS?
Any, but make sure you are actively tracking & filtering packets at the last hop of your LAN.
>What hardware?
Anything that supports libreboot.
>What network?
OpenWRT, etc. Cell phone only when absolutely necessary.
>What society?
As many as you an integrate yourself into
>What is your mindset on security and privacy in 2020? What is the perfect balance between security and no life?
Never trust technology. Use botnet services for legit purposes (but always keep local backups)
What can anyone possibly do without wasting their life learning?
If you see a life of learning as wasted, you're probably wasted already.
>>7984 > So I'll ask /g/ a
this is /tech/ retard.
>Now I'm not a computer programmer. I don't want to waste my time trying to create unattainable perfect security.
good, then fuck off since you have no idea what you're talking about, just like any other retard who drops words like "unnatainable", "pragmatic", "academic", etc.
literally just install Gentoo. /thread
Kind of sick of it. It's like a never ending game of speculation and smug elitism. So I'll ask /g/ a question, as a caveman that just does a lot of reading but with very little programming expertise. I'll let the focus of this thread answer what relationship should humans have with their machines (Dichotomy: demanding relationship computer like a human GF OR "just wurks" machine), and obviously the following questions.
Now I'm not a computer programmer. I don't want to waste my time trying to create unattainable perfect security. However, I understand that I should have steps to do that, and obviously good hardware. I want to be able to have my contacts and personal info remain confidential. I have good opsec but is there any Software that just handles the best configuration out of the box and that has no backdoors? I shouldn't have to learn all this nerd shit to have something the machine should already be doing. I mean computers should work , and not having us constantly work on them. I don't want to make the computer my life. I also don't want to be in expert in something that will just be outdated in a couple years or the skill won't be relevant anymore. Is there something that "just wurks". And no, not fucking windows or Ubuntu (analytic spying and paying globalists).
I have heard BSD is a good standard for security and is pretty usable but doesn't have the amount software you would get in a Linux OS like binary packages for Debian or even source builds on Gentoo. (Spare me, waiting to build tons of source code and reading every line of code to securely verify unless you waste years trying to understand it) Then again, what software would you possibly want? Quality over quantity. I guess just building from source what I would need just suffices, but then again why use computers if you don't use them for useful shit. I guess BSD seems good but not as fast as Gentoo :(
Maybe I'll just airgap with Qubes/Whonix and pray no persistent malware is present. Use Snailmail with encrypted SD cards. Maybe just plain old learn how to broadcast radio.
I just think we should stop wasting our lives impossibly building and maintaining a 'near perfect' machine to avoid a botnet. The real botnet is irl making us into niggercattle. Many young people are getting sucked into a corporate internet that they have no chance of competing in or having very little say about it. Either that, or they are fooled into a fake alternative known as the Open Source or FSF purity spiral cannibalism that rots their social lives and very communities away. They have it backwards thinking that interacting with machines will give them more freedom than rather interacting with fellow man (not sub-mans). Humans for now, control the damn machines. You need to confront the master, not the spawn.
>ur just a cavenigger
True. I however have wrote basic C++ and python programs before (then immediately forgot because skills rust and irrelevant brain memory). It's not like I couldn't throw away my club and spear and learn in depth. It's just that it would be a waste of time. I'm not saying computers serve no purpose. I'm just saying that our computers (phones included) are starting to own us. This bickering our speculative things is a distraction of the real issue. Why is there no balance? Hence, why there is no real security today.
>when ever disagreements arise in /g/
Who to even trust? I also see snobby elitism quite frequently with no explanation.
I applaud you Tor negros that make these onions work. If it were me I would probably just austically do it by the books while never understanding the underlying mechanisms of why it works, which is a recipe for disaster.
SHORT: What OS? What hardware? What network? What society? What is your mindset on security and privacy in 2020? What is the perfect balance between security and no life? What can anyone possibly do without wasting their life learning?