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Physical Security Nanonymous No.9772 [D][U][F][S][L][A][C] >>9815
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Anyone else interested in physical security, lock or lockpicking?
I watched this talk on DEF CON about how a 3 year old shot himself, because his father was a police officer and the government gave him a shitty safe. Turns out the safe opens once you "bump" it, which is exactly what the kid did and got access to his gun. Highly recommend everyone watch it:
http://axqzx4s6s54s32yentfqojs3x5i7faxza6xo3ehd4bzzsg2ii4fv2iid.onion/watch?v=mu9USTP_0ZQ&nojs=1

So then I started reading chapter 13 of Security Engineering Ross Anderson, and he talks about how locks keep being defeated over and over again:
https://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~rja14/book.html

Came across also these "Bowley" locks and found it pretty interesting:
http://axqzx4s6s54s32yentfqojs3x5i7faxza6xo3ehd4bzzsg2ii4fv2iid.onion/watch?v=jgekjfwphGc&nojs=1

Forever Lock V2 seems neat too:
http://axqzx4s6s54s32yentfqojs3x5i7faxza6xo3ehd4bzzsg2ii4fv2iid.onion/watch?v=5J2rwawhZWI&nojs=1

What is your thoughts on this topic?

Nanonymous No.9784 [D] >>9785 >>9832
You might like "LockPickingLawyer" on the YouTubes.

Nanonymous No.9785 [D] >>9810
>>9784
Yeah, he's pretty good. BosnianBill too. There is a community called TOOOL in case someone is interested (kinda like EFF/FSF but for lockpicking):
https://toool.nl/Toool

Nanonymous No.9810 [D] >>9812
>>9785
Did they force their leader (& basically mascot) to resign because of some words in an email like the FSF, and are they a total corporate front like the EFF?

Nanonymous No.9812 [D]
>>9810
No, but they push for better lock security and advocate for changes in industry standards.

Nanonymous No.9815 [D] >>9818 >>9992
>>9772
The vast majority of locks merely keep honest people honest. Nobody living in a normal house or apartment and with a normal car can keep even a moderately determined thief from wrecking their shit. It's social norms and the law that keep people from thieving constantly. I keep a 12 ga. pump shotgun full of buckshot handy for people who don't respect social norms.

I bought a basic lockpicking set, and and my kids and I have been working on learning to pick locks. It's a fun hobby. Maybe useful in a SHTF situation or if I get locked out of my house or shed.

Nanonymous No.9818 [D]
>>9815
>It's social norms and the law that keep people from thieving constantly.
I agree. But lock security is important for facilities, such as banks, power grid, water treatment buildings, hydroelectrics, nuclear power plants, etc.
Or in the case I've mentioned on OP, like keeping shotguns safe from kids, or keeping something of high value in a safe.
Also, the idea of this thread was to focus not only on locks, but any kind of physical protection. So we could also discuss and share tips about rugged laptop cases, survaillance cameras, alarms and so on.

Nanonymous No.9832 [D]
>>9784
I was very impressed by this video:http://axqzx4s6s54s32yentfqojs3x5i7faxza6xo3ehd4bzzsg2ii4fv2iid.onion/watch?v=oxfUmcMzx08
A full 2 minutes to be picked by LPL is pretty serious. Add a sturdy case and this Abloy is something I may have to purchase.

Nanonymous No.9992 [D]
>>9815
This guy gets it.