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What's the best strategy for discretely procuring your FBI file? Nanonymous No.4788 [D][S][L][A][C] >>4823 >>5152

Does the FBI or CIA or some other alphabet soup agency have a file on you?
You may not think they do because, you're not doing anything illegal, right? But you still may have traveled to "suspicious" countries, met or communicated with people you didn't know were part of an investigation or surveillance operation, bought some peculiar, though legal items, visited websites which were on government watchlists, etc. There could be a million different reasons why the FBI or some other spook agency might be keeping tabs on you.
From the little research I've done so far, it's advised to fill out a FOIA form and attach a notarized form which proves you are who you say you are and send it to the FBI. Then in weeks or months, you supposedly get a full copy of your file, assuming that they are keeping one on you, free of charge.
I was thinking that whether you do or don't have a file with the FBI, just requesting your own file might be a red flag to them in and of itself.
>Why is this anon so paranoid to think we've been watching them? Hmmmm...better have a closer look at this guy.
Maybe it's better to have some third party request your file instead, to make it appear as if you had nothing to do with it?
Does anyone have any good advice about any of this? I'm not even sure if this is the best board to post this thread on, but /g/ are presumably the best OPSec anons here, so if you don't know the best strategy for forcing the feds to show their hand, no one does.

Request of dossier Special Agent S. Johnson No.4789 [D] >>4791 >>4804 >>5157

Hello Nanonymous, i am the special agent S. Johnson from the Federal Bureau of Investigation, i confirm you that you can request your dossier regarding the current investigation on your behalf, i encourage you to contact me here with your name, address, SSN and a copy of your ID, driver license and passport, once you provide the data for identification you will be sent a computer executable file though which you can download the files related to your investigation from a secure government channel.

Thanks for showing interest in our investigation.

Special Agent S. Johnson

Nanonymous No.4791 [D] >>5918 >>5925

>>4789
Hey, that's humorous because it's irony, right?

Nanonymous No.4804 [D] >>5158 >>5925

>>4789
>i
>,
Glownigger detected

Nanonymous No.4823 [D] >>5925

>>4788
If they don't have a file, they'll create one, with the first entry being, "requested this file".

In all seriousness, if you want to make it look like there's a reason for the inquiry, create an LLC and have it submit the inquiry, with the necessary written permission from yourself. There may be some company that provides this service if you don't want to setup a company to do it.

Nanonymous No.4824 [D][U][F]
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I highly doubt they would send your file. And I think this is counter-intuitive from a privacy perspective.
You could, theoretically, have a NSA insider contact that has access to the data (see XKeyscore and ICREACH), but AFAIK only few people has access to it and if you have contact that high on hierarchy they probably already have something on you (this is part of the job of security clearence officers).
Just forget about it, you wouldn't gain anything doing that.

If you really care that much about offline privacy, your only option is to get out of the USA or live far deep into the woods.

Nanonymous No.5060 [D] >>5151 >>5925

How do the triple-letter agencies exactly approach people who did illegal stuff on the internet?

Do you show up to your house? Do they send you an email? Do they call you?

Nanonymous No.5151 [D]

>>5060
It depends on what you did. If that's something not harmful to national security, they probably will just send a request to emprision you.
If you have connections and are planning on doing something potentially harmful, such as a bomb attack, they will put you under surveilance to see if you're colaborating with other people.
After they get enough evidence, they will just show up and put you in prision.

Nanonymous No.5152 [D]

>>4788
>From the little research I've done so far, it's advised to fill out a FOIA form and attach a notarized form which proves you are who you say you are and send it to the FBI. Then in weeks or months, you supposedly get a full copy of your file, assuming that they are keeping one on you, free of charge.
I've read about people who had FBI files back in the 60s or 70s getting their file many, many years later. But if you're currently under investigation, forget about it. Also, if there's anything classified, secret, or, of course, top secret in your file, forget about it. Also anything that might expose sources and/or methods. So if you got flagged for something you did on Tor, or if an informant on a forum reported you for something, you've never going to hear about it.

Generally, I think getting in touch with a powerful federal law enforcement agency and saying "hey, I think I'm a person you might have been interested in and I want to find out about that" is a pretty retarded thing to do.

Nanonymous No.5155 [D] >>5925

Why do I feel like someone is out to get me even if I'm a law-abiding citizen? I have never jaywalked in my entire life; I have never been caught speeding; I have never pirated anything. I just hold Fascist political beliefs (which are seen as radical).

Nanonymous No.5157 [D] >>5917

>>4789
Do the FBI really contact you like this over the internet? Do the FBI really reveal themselves over the internet?

I've had stuff like this sent to me over chat platforms when someone else posts a sketchy Lolicon or Shotacon.

Nanonymous No.5158 [D]

>>4804
Can I have the lore on this? I don't get it, but I'm very interested.

Nanonymous No.5818 [D][U][F]
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>5158
>can i have lore on this? i don't get it, but i'm very interested
t.glownigger

Nanonymous No.5917 [D] >>5925
>>5157

no the FBI does not do that kind of stuff over the internet. if they were to give you a file at all they would do it through the mail. The FBI does use malicious executables to get some people but no in the way that post was saying.

The posts that you see in those other places are likely just scammers trying to get money from you. Like the whole FBI bittorrent viruses that people were spreading around telling peopl;e that they had to pay a bogus fine in bitcoin in order for the government to not come after them.

if the government is going to come after someone for torrenting too much, they are not going to do it in that way, they do not send email or chats, they bust the door down fully

Nanonymous No.5918 [D] >>5925
>>4791
yeah it is meant to be humerus and satire, it is not something a real FBI agent would do. We do sometimes get targeted with malware referred to by the FBI as a network investigative technique or some shit. they make up goofy words for what is essentially spyware.

Those executables have circulated on some websites such as Hansa and alphabay when they were taken down by the police. it is less likely that you will see that happen to this site though because this is not a market site so it has less heat on it.


Response to inquiries Special Agent S. Johnson No.5925 [D][U][F] >>6069
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>>4791
We at the Federal Bureau of Investigation take our job really seriously sir, my message was to inform you of your rights and was not ironic.
>>4804
>i
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>Glownigger detected
Sir you should't use that language to refer to afro-americans citizens, i assure that i am not an afro-american and i am not bioluminescent, the bioluminescence of FBI agents is false information and i encourage you to not spread false information. If this will continue a file will be opened for spreading racism and anti-federal-goverment propganda.
>>4823
>create an LLC and have it submit the inquiry, with the necessary written permission from yourself. There may be some company that provides this service if you don't want to setup a company to do it.
I highly discourage you from doing so, we scrunity requests from both companies and individuals thoroughly, to mantain our bureaucracy truthful we need genuine data when you request your dossier, lot of those proxy companies were shut down in an operation of my division last year.
>>5060
>Do you show up to your house? Do they send you an email? Do they call you?
Depending of the type of investigation we will contact you sir, we already have all your details in the dossier so you don't have to worry about the method.
>>5155
>Why do I feel like someone is out to get me even if I'm a law-abiding citizen? I have never jaywalked in my entire life; I have never been caught speeding; I have never pirated anything. I just hold Fascist political beliefs (which are seen as radical).
Sir extremist political ideologies are part of our jurisdiction, we also often collaborate with the NSA and the Department of Homeland Security to counter extremism, thanks for your collaboration.
>>5917
>The FBI does use malicious executables to get some people but no in the way that post was saying.
Sir i assure you our executables are not malicious, we just need to confirm your identity.
>>5918
>We do sometimes get targeted with malware referred to by the FBI as a network investigative technique or some shit. they make up goofy words for what is essentially spyware.
Sir our "Citizen Identification Protocols" are not spyware, do you have any inquiry that i can pass to out IT division?

Nanonymous No.6069 [D]
>>5925
Shitty larp faggot

Nanonymous No.6134 [D][U][F]
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Look for glowniggers. Get fitted with your very own glow-in-the-dark implant. For free.

Nanonymous No.7027 [D]
They show up at your location. Scare tactic. Works marvelous. People get scared and start to talk.