never heard of this before 8kun used it. how's it compare with Tor? Why would they use it rather than Tor, when Tor worked fine for ages for the Daily Stormer?
some possible reasons:
1. loki gives site owners more tools to deal with spam (not an issue with the Daily Stormer)
2. loki is a little DOS-resistant
3. hotwheels' treachery and DOS direction required a lot more than a band-aid solution, where the usual "just slap a hidden service on it" would still get 8kun taken down, and loki happened to be what Ron was looking into. If you're going to do a lot of original work, go with what you know.
4. the Daily Stormer shit was a surprise to the Tor community, or Jim thinks 8chan is even more hated than the Daily Stormer, so it's reckoned that 8chan relying on it will just trigger some full and open act of treachery by the tor team
5. 8ch had a hidden service forever and it was total garbage forever and there are some actual technical reasons for this that lokinet alleviates
I think the mistake they do is they only provide Lokinet access. it should have Lokinet and Tor access. And maybe also some clearnet gateway, at least for reading posts
>>8991 if 8chan is CIA then why did CIA cloudflare remove 8chan?
>>9000 >Plausible deniability
for what purpose?
if it was CIA honeypot why they destroy it and make it again? it doesn't make sense
>>9001 >We don't need clearnet address. It only makes our and admin's anonymity weak. We only need Tor address.
doesn't make our anonymity weak, because we are not retarded to use clearnet. but other people could visit in with clearnet, then learn that the truth and that they should use anonymity network
doesn't make admin's anonymity weak, because clearnet IP doesn't have to be real server IP, you can just use another server to get clearnet traffic and route it to real server using Tor
>>9002 >How secure can it really be when they communicate with Discord?
not secure at all
>>9006 Why Cuckflare dropped 8chan/kun is plausible deniability. Destroying it probably had more to do with increased scrutiny on the site. Either way gives plausible deniability though through your exact line of reasoning.
>it's alphabet soup
<why'd they destroy it then only to bring it back? huh? HUH?! #shotsfired
>>9008 it is plausible deniability because they had no motive to destroy it if it was in their hands
they didn't need to produce plausible deniability for the site, as 8chan already attracted many dangerous individuals and they weren't scared of posting on the site, especially with onion gateway
also, when they destroyed 8chan, people moved to or created other places, giving even less control to them
some cucks moved to 4chan, but those people were not dangerous
>>8983 >https://lokinet.org/ If I use umatrix to disable scripts the site loads fine, but if I disable js with the javascript.enabled flag or devtools the site only loads the background with some text at the bottom. Anyone know what is happening here?
>>9012 I am not sure if we agree. I thought you implied they closed 8chan because they wanted to have proofs that new 8chan is totally not CIA. I think they didn't do it, it doesn't make much sense, people used 8chan, they weren't scared that it is honeypot, they posted dangerous stuff on it
>>9013 I don't know why is it but don't disable javascript globally like that. disabling globally is safer but there are risks like this, different fingerprint from Tor Browser on Safest mode
consider running Tor Browser in special virtual machine if you are concerned about exploits
>>9014 >Black markets and phdophilia sites use only .onion addresses. Surface web addresses make it easy to track by the law enforcement.
there are ways to provide clearnet access while not revealing real server
onion only will cut you from 99.9% people, leaving them only with jewish propaganda. those people need to be reached by us
>>9016 >The majority of 8chan's users went back to 4chan
but those were cucks that used 8chan with clearnet and didn't post dangerous stuff except "gas kikes" and "fuck niggers". I doubt dangerous people just went to 4chan with their bare IP
>>9017 >This is just a zeronet fork. Nothing original.
not a valid argument. forks can be superior
>>9031 fork doesn't have to be copy paste of code. algorithms, designs, can also be forked
Their use of Discord is highly fucking suspect.
>oh but Discord says they love open source communities
Yeah, in the same way big cats "like" gazelles.
For literally the same effort they could gotten a Matrix whatever room and not look like derps.
>>9062 >not a valid argument. forks can be superior
Actually it is an argument. Claim: no reason to use this over tor. Evidence: it is just a zeronet fork. And just because forks can be superior does not mean that they are (not that "superior to zeronet" means much).
>Lokinet is the reference implementation of LLARP (low latency anonymous routing protocol), a layer 3 onion routing protocol.
why low latency when we already have Tor? we need medium latency protocol, with automatic noise
>>9017 >This is just a zeronet fork
No it's not.
Zeronet is html over bittorrent hacked together in Python. It's not anonymous or private and their censorship resistance strategy is "you can't arrest us all".
Loki is created by ex-I2P devs who want to take the best parts from Tor and I2P to create a new anonymity network and is written in C++.
>>9591 >Working on I2P has been a really big learning experience for everyone involved.
>After much deliberation I have decided to start making a "next generation" onion
>routing protocol.
I see now, he contributed to that C++ version of I2P which is full of buffer overflows, not the real I2P.
https://github.com/majestrate/i2pd
>one man project
>"My proposed solution would be to permit inbound traffic from 'exit nodes' in addition to allowing outbound exit traffic."
And the reasoning behind this security flaw:
>hurrdurr people use tor2web instead of using tor themselves
>"alpha state"
>I can't avoid traffic correlation attacks, so why should I even try?
It's absolute garbage and a shitty meme. Like the name of the protocol implies the whole project is nothing but a (L)LARP.
https://lokinet.org/
https://github.com/loki-project/loki-network
8kun
http://pijdty5otm38tdex6kkh51dkbkegf31dqgryryz3s3tys8wdegxo.loki/
http://s5swbfcf4joom9tzf8w7ss5fptywwpnnfop3pxcf5ebjnz8ioksy.loki/