Features, or any changes you would like to see on nanochan. This thread will be used for discussion of any controversial suggestions, or to raise some of your own. Namely,
- the reinstatement of /pol/
- to keep or to delete /t/
- merging the less active boards back into /l/
- "merging" /l/ and /t/ back into /b/
- banning pronography across all boards
Or just to request some features for nanochan.
>>3510 This thread's mostly for any large scale changes you want to see, and a new thread would bring more attention to it. This thread's just a temporary thing anyway.
>>3518 I've been thinking of readding the reddit administrator feature, but replacing reddit with that instead. It might get confusing and hard to tell the real admin from a fake, but I don't think this level of coddling is necessary either.
>>3508 A couple of things I would recommend. The first is the subsequent deletion of /a/, /v/, /ar/, /k/, /o/ and /t/ these boards are too small to consider keeping around considering how small our userbase was and now it is best to assume that the userbase has further decreased due to the temper tantrum that hakase went through. If you are reinstating /pol/ I would make the suggestion to change the name to /f/ which could simply mean fascist this would make the board a primary natsoc board which while I am against their ideology(I do agree with them in some points however disagree on others) is something they want the most instead of a board that can be easily subverted. Furthermore I would also suggest trying to increase the userbase of our imageboard by promoting it on niche and small imageboards not named libreland. Some places where we could promote our board are desuchan, Uboachan, /kc/ on endchan, ernstchan's /int/ board, 1chan(the train one) these places have long lasting and strong communities who if we bring over to nanochan we can increase the number of users while maintaining a respectable community.
>banning pronography across all boards
YES! THE NEW QUALITY NANO AWAITS!
I CAN'T WAIT FOR IT TO GET ENFORCED! YOU'LL ALL ANIMEFAGGOTS SEE HOW MUCH QUALITY SITE CAN ACCUMULATE!
>- banning pronography across all boards
I think both 2D and 3D pr0n should be banned, but 2D ecchi should not.
>just to request some features for nanochan
- Add back the ability to download the database for the site
<b-b-but my passwords
Don't be a pussy and trust your KDF algorithm.
- On that topic, switch from bcrypt to argon2
>>3515 Yes, the /t/rash threads should be trashed and /t/ be renamed back to /pol/ to keep the old /pol/ threads. It might also be nice to keep some of the quality /t/rash threads to /l/.
>>3518 I second the motion for changing it to Nyanonymous.
>>3520 I would prefer we go back to the original boards by having a lineup of /b/ (now /l/), /g/, /pol/, /meta/, /a/, and /test/.
Damn, didn't expect the porn ban idea to get this much support. It was mostly added to show that anything goes. I'm neutral about the idea myself; I would personally prefer to not see random porn next to serious threads, but the consequences of outright banning it might not be worth it.
If this idea really does gain traction, perhaps a compromise would be that all threads outside of /l/ or /b/ must outright specify that porn is allowed, in the OP, for porn to be allowed. Tasteful nudes would be exempt from this, since this place isn't supposed to be safe for work anyway.
>>3522 >I think both 2D and 3D pr0n should be banned, but 2D ecchi should not
Ecchi is softcore pornography you weeb. It has the same effect on your brain.
>>3518 >I would like to change the default name to "Nyanonymous"
It's not weeaboo site despite anime on the main page.
>>3522 >pornography
>animu porn is fine
gtfo ugly fucko
rulecucking is bullshit, nobody here ever posted porn when unnecessary, the only place is the anal thread where it's kinda expected
/a/niggers on the other hand are present in every fuckin thread mate
if I wanted fuckin rules I'd go on reddit or pigchan, you retards with slave mentality should all die
>Nyanonymous
let's not change it, keep it like it's now
>>3520 >subverted
/pol/ was auto"subverted", it's incurable cancer since elections and was radcancer before too, who cares
>make this sanctuary for polyps because I have "obligation" to
leftypol has like 3 or 5 bunkers, what the fuck is the point of doing poltards jobs eh?
>/f/
lets just make it politics so that nobody spergs out about it
>>3523 Porn is harmful to the brain
No actual benefit of allowing it, there are tons of porn sites of any imaginable preference
It doesn't add anything to the discussion beside being distracting
Quality might rise as porn fags will move out and only people ready for discussion will stay
Jews push for porn, aren't we all anti-semitic?
Historically nano had not much porn and most will agree it was quality site
4cuck and pigchan have porn and it's filled with cancer
>since this place isn't supposed to be safe for work anyway
It's not about being "safe for work", imageboards were never intended to be lurked in public. It's for A Better Future of Nanochan
>>3520 The /pol/ rename (if it comes back) seems like it could be controversial, I'll see what others think of it
>>3522 I like the idea of restoring the old lineup of boards. They seemed pretty active for the most part, as apposed to /v/, /k/ and /o/.
>database downloads
The original reason given was that the database was also storing the captchas, so it couldn't be directly exposed to the internet. I'll just release a copy of the database with the captchas and passwords (might as well) removed for now, and automate this down the line. You can now find this at /nanochan.db.bak.
>argon2
Seems like a good idea. I'll add this to my list of things to do
Here is my case for not banning pornography altogether like a retard /pol/cuck.
1. Suggestions to ban pornography are usually based off the assumption that "hurr porn damages ur brain". It doesn't, unless you're a weak cucked piece of shit who gets a boner to every random slut you see online, in which case you are the problem, not the porn.
>inb4 da jooz cantrol da porn!
>>>/pol/ oh wait
2. Pornography reduces the quality of a board only if it is present in the absence of quality content. For example, a dump thread containing porn is very low quality. Hapase used rule #2 to ban this, which is reasonable. If someone posts a lewd pic next to a normal quality post, this is absolutely not a problem.
In summary, just ban all the dump threads and leave everything else.
Here is my case for not reinstating /pol/.
1. /pol/ attracts a lot of retards, spergs and low quality posters. /pol/ attracts schizoposters and trolls. Evidence for these claims can be found on any /pol/ board on the internet.
2. /pol/ is very easy to troll, especially if you oversensitize the population to non-/pol/ opinions by banning said non-/pol/ opinions. The board would quickly become a nest for shitposters and trolls, and I can't even blame them because triggered /pol/luters are very amusing.
4. /pol/ is not useful for causing IRL action unless it has a lot of posters, like pigchan and cuckchan, which leads to low quality. Therefore, /pol/ would not be useful even if you're a wignat.
I think you should add thread moving, so that you can actually move low quality threads to /t/. This would make /t/ much more useful, as a garbage pile for shitty threads which you could use instead of deleting them. Hapase kind of half-assed this one, probably lost interest right after making /t/ and subsequently led to giving nanochan away.
I do think that something has to be done about the inactive boards, though. I think you (or we) should advertise on other boards to get people to populate those inactive boards, and we should take opportunities when other boards get shut down and let them come here. If this plan fails, then just delete the inactive boards after relocating their threads elsewhere.
And yeah, change the name to Nyanonymous. Butthurt anti-weeb tears are delicious. Weeb master race.
>>3526 I won't reveal my position here to remain neutral, but radical, sweeping changes like that might not be the best decision for the community. Look at what happened with the /l/-/t/ thing. So I'll try to keep my changes less widespread, unless it's changing something back to the status quo.
>>3532 Are you by any chance oldfag? Normal porn doesn't work as internet porn, where you have endless stream of novelty and endless content to keep you aroused. Porn is the reason why people get fucked up fetishes, as normal stuff doesn't do the trick.
>inb4 da jooz cantrol da porn!
https://www.darkmoon.me/2014/pornography-as-a-secret-weapon-by-lasha-darkmoon/http://archivecaslytosk.onion/yKwQM japs are influenced by kikes so >muh anime won't work.
>2. Pornography reduces the quality of a board only if it is present in the absence of quality content
Pornography lowers quality as men gets his mind filled with semen and doesn't give a shit about discussion or quality, just to MMMMM SEE THE FUCKING BOOOTY OH FUCK
>If someone posts a lewd pic next to a normal quality post, this is absolutely not a problem
It is a problem as it is distracting and doesn't serve any purpose. See niichan where people mostly post softcore pornography and there is no quality to talk about.
>>3533 I wouldn't call it radical, especially when compared to /l/ /t/ thing. Users would simply cease to post pornographic material, it's a small price for what we can gain. We came here to discuss, right? Why would any of us bother to use Tor-only site to access porn pics? It can be done on the clearnet even if people only use Tor to access the web.
>>3535 Eh, I think it's the principle of the thing. Anyway, if this (or any) change is to be made, we could just start small, and if it's well-accepted then it could be made stricter.
>>3535 >mah jooz mah porn
I haven't fapped to anything online for months. I only use my imagination. I don't have any fucked up sexual fetishes, and yet I see porn every day. You are just weak, looking for a little bubble to hide in because you can't control your own desires. I'm going to assume you are a /pol/nigger, and you would think Aryans have superior willpower. In that case, you should be able to easily deal with seeing a few anime pics now and then.
>HURR DA JAPZ IS DA JOOZ, BEWARE OF DA JAP!!!
>t. weimerican whose entire government donates $38,000,000,000 to israel for free every few years
Go kill yourself burgerclap. You have way, way, WAY bigger problems than this, and if you can't even stop fapping for a few minutes because "muh porn" then you need to reconsider your stance on this.
Even if you're not a burgerclap, I can guarantee that if you are white, your country is in a worse state than Japan. Japan is not the problem, you are.
>it is distracting
only if you're weak
>where people mostly post softcore pornography
Hence why I said that a thread exclusively about porn should be banned. Normal posts with porn next to them are no problem to non-retarded people.
>I wouldn't call it radical, especially when compared to /l/ /t/ thing. Users would simply cease to post pornographic material, it's a small price for what we can gain.
Nothing is gained. You should learn self control. Trying to excessively restrict the behavior of others to suit your personal needs is a sign of underlying weakness, just like western roasties who demand that everything they don't like be punished.
>We came here to discuss, right?
What did you come here to discuss? Imageboards are not exclusively for discussion, they are also for fun. You are just a seerius-biznus no-fun-allowed boomer retard. Even Lainfag-cocksuckers on Lainchan are less retarded than you and your ilk.
>>3536 I'm aware no porn rule would give moderation power over interpreting what consists of porn, but I doubt all these pictures of girls have any meaning, so deleting picture but leaving post would work in the long term (if mod was nazimod). I don't try to censor anyone, freedom is freedom but so is extreme gore or CP? I'm fine with whatever you write but I don't want to see any porn and you shouldn't too.
>>3537 >I can guarantee that if you are white, your country is in a worse state than Japan
Opinion discarded, you state lies as if porn wasn't addictive and harmful. Did you know some people have easier time elimiating masturbation than porn? Should make you think. To enable any meaningful discussion, you should read a bit about porn rather than base your observation on "I think I'm fine so is everyone else".
>>3538 >wow look at me, I posted a low quality unsourced infographic in JPEG format
absolutely epic, the new admin is a 9000 IQ /pol/ master race aryan ubermensch!!!
>Did you know some people have easier time elimiating masturbation than porn
Masturbation is the only problem here. If you see porn but don't masturbate, it means you have self-discipline and willpower.
>freedom is freedom but so is extreme gore or CP?
Gore should be allowed, if you don't allow it you are a weak faggot as well.
<waah waah people dying makes me sad :( so I'm gonna ban ban ban BAN BAN BAN it all
gay nigger
Child porn was only banned by Hapase because it would result in a legal problem as well as lots of flooding by pedoniggers. From what she said about it, it was a practical decision rather than a moral decision.
>I don't want to see any porn and you shouldn't too
I don't want to see your hilariously shitty /pol/ tier infographics.
>Opinion discarded
$38,000,000,000 to Israel, motherfucker. You can't hide this and then complain about Japanese pornography - while simultaneously screeching about this mysterious, omnipotent JUICE that somehow forces you to fap excessively using a bunch of pixels online.
>>3542 Of course Hapase had a major shift of ideology before deleting /pol/. She went full 180 from wignat larpsoc retard to some sort of hapa supremacist larpsock retard. At least it resulted in the purge of /pol/ so eh. Makes sense for her cause she's a hapa so whatever.
>>3541 >wow look at me, I posted a low quality unsourced infographic in JPEG format
https://www.yourbrainonporn.com https://guardyoureyes.com https://fightthenewdrug.org/ https://yourbrainrebalanced.com/forum/index.php I assume you're capable of reading posts longer than your typical reddit one.
>Masturbation is the only problem here. If you see porn but don't masturbate, it means you have self-discipline and willpower.
I used to do nofap for more than a year while watching explicit anime. Now I can't go past one week and mostly it ends with porn even though I know it's bad. What does it tell about me, anon? Don't junkies act like that?
Yeah, porn is as addictive as other substances. There's no way out and having nano as safe haven would be wonderful and benefit whole community. Only cartoon niggers like you complain about this because other people want to have discussion. I don't even know why you're here, 4cuck would suit you better and I'm picking on you.
>Gore should be allowed, if you don't allow it you are a weak faggot as well.
<le im egdy kid here
>$38,000,000,000 to Israel, motherfucker. You can't hide this and then complain about Japanese pornography - while simultaneously screeching about this mysterious, omnipotent JUICE that somehow forces you to fap excessively using a bunch of pixels online
>implying only white people in the world live in US
>implying japs are not crypto jews
>believing whole jews thing is a hoax
>oy vey jewpan is PURE! NEVER TOUCHED BY WEST!
Hmmmm your stylometry and subject resembles me hapa spammer... oy vey
>>3544 >resorting to linkposting
nobodys going to read it brainlet
>nofap
>watching anime
>cartoon niggers
>is literally animal
"People" like you were locked up in monasteries and joined orders in the past, now there's military; have you thought about army career? USA, IDF and СРФ, they all need niggers like you.
>>3544 >I used to do nofap for more than a year
>Now I can't go past one week
>What does it tell about me
wow nigger, you failed at nofap because you are attracted to disgusting white roasties with saggy tits. good job 100$% wow lmao
just keep in mind that fapping to porn makes you a metacuck. that knowledge is way more than enough to ensure I never fap to porn, instead using my imagination.
>porn is addictive!11!!!!1!1!!1!
Porn is only addictive if you were already subhuman to begin with. Normal people can consume moderate amounts of alcohol without any ill effects. Degenerate subhumans get addicted to it. Normal people can stop drinking if they have to do something important, like driving. Degenerate subhumans drink and drive.
>having nano as safe haven would be wonderful
<I want a safe space!
Literally kill yourself.
>complain about this because other people want to have discussion
"Discussion" is the new buzzword eh? As I said, Nanochan is not exclusively for your "discussion". Imageboards do not exist for SERIUS BIZNUS, they exist for fun, and any sort of SERIUS BIZNIS that might arise is perfectly acceptable as well.
In fact, why don't you ban all memes as well? Memes don't promote discussion. They are just infecting your brain right? So why don't you ban memes? After all, we need discussion, and memes get in the way. Take a page from the EU's book, and ban all memes! The EU is made of white countries, so it must be right.
><le im edgy kid here
There is literally no problem with gore. I don't enjoy it per se, but I'm not such a gigantic walking vagina that I feel the need to BAN things like that. If you're going to BAN all porn, and violent images, then I might as well go to church and talk with the boomers.
<durr jewpan
<durr "crypto jews"
<DA JUIZE
The only reason Jews have any sort of power at all is because of white people. Whites willingly aid and support Jews. White people created Israel. White people defend Israel. White people support and feed Israel $38,000,000,000 every year. White people protect Jews from verbal and physical confrontation.
If white people were to disappear tomorrow, Jews would lose ALL influence everywhere. The first step to enacting a real Holocaust is white genocide.
>>3547 >wow guys i posted 4 links this makes me smart
The best arguments require no evidence or sources. They rely solely on information the audience already knows to be true, since this is a more direct, reliable path to convince someone.
Sources and links are for plebs.
>hapa spammer
Yes, I am a hapa. But I am not a spammer. There is no spam on this website at all, much less that which originates from me. And there never was.
>>3548 >everyone I don't like is hapase
for all we know hapase could have transferred the board to another one of her alternate personalities.
What if Hapase is God and we are all just alternate personalities of Hapase? That would explain a lot.
Yaknow, while I do realize this issue is controversial, I might add a point or two in support of our Mr. Monk here.
a) it is true that sexual arousal is a very strong thing; like, your whole body starts to respond differently when you are aroused, it's subtle in the beginning and can be felt even by the densest when it's in the full swing
b) and just like with any strong stimuli, it's addictive, or rather, not as addictive as dangerous drugs like heroin, but rather psychologically addictive; like, just read stuff about conditioning, it's that simple, or rather, we are
But all in all, it's hardly the porn that is the problem. It's other issues in your life that make you more susceptible to porn, including your genes, I believe. People already mentioned why porn is not as appealing to them as it could be to Mr. Monk, and I want to add another point to that: don't you think porn is hilarious? If you don't think what happens on the scene is hilarious, think about what happens behind the scenes, like, director/operator/crew work and all how they jump around the couple that is copulating, taking a LOT of different angles. xD Also don't forget about the background extras, if there are any, like, they have to be there - what does cross their minds? xD
But I digress. I might have to proposal that might be just good enuff for everybody:
a) we can create a /srs/ board with more strict rules regarding porn and maybe even memes - literally no fun allowed
b) we can moderate porn by removing the thumbnail and hiding it behind some replacement thumbnail, like with spoiler images or something; the content will still be accessible for anybody willing to see
Allow everything but cp and flooding please. Shitty dump threads can still go to /t/. If the /pol/fag can't stand porn/gore/whatever just ban it on /pol/.
So this is my plan right now:
- rename /t/ to /pol/ (or something else)
- lock all unrelated threads in /t/, move to /l/ or a trash board when thread migration is implemented
- make a new /t/-like board, where shitposts or undesirable threads get moved to, which can act as the old /test/
undecided:
- the default name
- if /l/ should stay curated (all shitposts should be made in the /test/-like board then)
- the porn issue (leaning towards my original idea, or image spoilers)
- the name of /l/
Looking for feedback on all points.
>>3551 >image spoiler
I think I could do this, but it'll involve some work so it won't happen now (unless someone writes it for me)
>/srs/ board
I don't think making more new boards is a good idea, unless there's a really good reason for it.
>>3545 I quit cartoons already. I would be prejudiced if I never stumbled into chink shit and talked how bad it is. Now that I have in the pastI can critisize it to my heart's content because I have actual experience.
>>3549 Have you heard about backfire effect you cartoon nigger? I can't convince you if you think you know better already. Pull off this strawman and move on.
>>3551 So you understand problem a bit. Truth be told I was never drawn to regular porn. I would spend my teenage years fapping to pics of the girls I knew on the social media (I was normie back then). At some point, anime pics (soft, no nude) got my attention and it was my soft spot since then, even if I experimented with hentai it was no shit. I'm telling you this because you mentioned how porn is funny: regular is and if you're trying to quit, you see things differently. I didn't start my adventure for no reason, I could feel this brain fog and fatigue after fapping, now it's not as extreme as back then maybe because I try not to fap to porn. I don't truly know how it is to be porn free because maybe I'm still not close to it.
Have you ever tried going pornfree or fapfree? It certainly is no meme, yeah superpowers are overblown, this is what normal unconditioned human being feels, free off constantly seeking that dopamine fix.
>>3552 I don't get why you all assume I'm /pol/nigger, I could never understand that board or what to write there honestly.
>>3551 >don't you think porn is hilarious? If you don't think what happens on the scene is hilarious, think about what happens behind the scenes, like, director/operator/crew work and all how they jump around the couple that is copulating, taking a LOT of different angles. xD Also don't forget about the background extras, if there are any, like, they have to be there - what does cross their minds? xD
tl;dr they only do it for the money. There's no emotion behind it, or anything else for that matter; they're fucking for cash. I can empathize with the other anon with regards to porn, because from what I can tell, the porn industry is absolute cancer.
>>3558 >why you all assume I'm /pol/nigger
you behave like one
>>3555 >/pol/
no prob with /pol/ but make it politics so it's not just circlejerking
>/t/
toilet board is not a good idea, look how many people posted there
if the post is shit just delete it
>porn "issue"
there's hardly any issue, as there is no porn and seems like nobody has any intention of posting any
if you can't see nipples without ejaculating then how did you end up on imageboards in the first place, or were you going there for cum-rausche? retarded no matter how i look at it
if you absolutely have to, like you don't, then spoilers
>>3558 >I could feel this brain fog
TBPH I think my mind never became as sharp as it was before I hit the puberty. Like, I've read something online about how puberty makes teenagers dumber, at least some of them, and I suppose it's true to a certain degree - you do start to feel stuff you haven't experienced before, and it will stress you out. Well, I felt that I became dumber long before reading about that, it might have happened because of some other things though.
>fatigue after fapping
Well, if said "fatigue" lasts more than a day, you are probably sick or something else is wrong with you. Check it with a dogtor :D
>Have you ever tried going pornfree or fapfree?
Sometimes I use it as some sedating/soothing measure, quite unironically. Sometimes life is too exciting, and not in a good way.
Other than that, I think "normal human being in normal circumstances" just doesn't have much time to have dirty thoughts, and when they do, there is a lot of other stuff involved, so, it's mostly you being all cozy and alone in your chair or whatever that does it, not the pictures themselves.
And to add on top of it, it's the same for some sort of "web addiction" people have, like, when you just read random shit without much thinking. Like, it's not as simple as that, I suppose, but "soothing" and "comfy private space" have a lot to do with it.
>>3560 >toilet board is not a good idea, look how many people posted there
I personally agree. The idea behind this new board is to replace what /test/ used to do, with the added functionality of being where threads toeing the line of ambiguity between absolute trash and shit but still desirable/fun can end up on, without getting bumplocked forever. I don't think /l/ should be heavily curated as is currently implied, but I'll see what you all have to say about it.
>if you absolutely have to, like you don't, then spoilers
Just so I'm clear here, and I have your correct opinion, you don't think spoilers should be needed?
>>3560 >if you can't see nipples without ejaculating
Funny thing is art depicting naked woman isn't as arousing as modern pictures of fully dressed women, or anime pics. I don't know if your pic was designed to be pornographic or no, probably not, and I feel it. I don't know how to describe it but modern world turned sexuality around.
>how did you end up on imageboards in the first place
People end here because mainstream media doesn't suit them.
>>3561 >TBPH I think my mind never became as sharp as it was before I hit the puberty
Not sure about me, probably the same, I think semen retention isn't complete bullshit. You didn't cum as a child, right? There has to be some correlation between retention and mind.
>Well, if said "fatigue" lasts more than a day, you are probably sick or something else is wrong with you
In the past it was so severe I couldn't watch movie in peace, now it's okay, after normal fap (no porn) I will feel, hmmm, weird. After fapping to porn, most likely like shit, probably this is brain fog, I don't know what consists of it, last severe was years ago.
>Check it with a dogtor :D
Good meme, they will tell me I'm fine. I had check so mentally I'm OK.
>Sometimes life is too exciting, and not in a good way
I feel like mine is too peaceful.
>Other than that, I think "normal human being in normal circumstances" just doesn't have much time to have dirty thoughts
So I'm pretty much fucked up - I don't do anything interesting daily and education will come not that soon.
When doing nofap, I thought I'm winning, but anime is still pretty much porn with all of this ecchi stuff.
>And to add on top of it, it's the same for some sort of "web addiction" people have
Well, I like fighting with addictions, but this one would prove to be difficult... It's just like everyone is addicted to something and if I'm not to drugs or gambling, I'm to porn. Quit porn and I would stay with web or computer addiction. Hell, I used to be video game addict since I was little kid and now I don't get urges to play.
But to fap or view porn (it's nice, it's colorful, it's cute picture!!!)... I just fucking become weak, I lose energy, urges tell me I have to do it, even now I'm feeling it. I can try to abstain, or fap, or again get hijacked into thinking I'll feel good after that one pic and feel like shit.
Sorry, I've run out of quality for today. Thanks for being helpful.
>>3563 I think I'll be adding that feature regardless of the rule being made, it's a good idea
>multiple-images posting
I don't like it, it places more emphasis on the images rather than the text, and encourages file dumping. It also seems to be pretty tedious to implement.
>>3558 >Have you ever tried going pornfree or fapfree
I tried this for two weeks and the only difference was that I struggled falling asleep.
People posting lewd images (or gore) along side their post is fine. It adds nothing to the quality of discussion, positively or negatively. It isn't a distraction unless you are a dumb nigger, and even then you can just avert your eyes and the problem is gone. There is no reason to ban lewd images other than moralfaggotry.
I would go as far as to say that a blanket ban on all lewd images would hinder discussion as posting such images may at times be relevant to the topic and useful for illustrating a point.
>the reinstatement of /pol/
>to keep or to delete /t/
I think that for an imageboard is necessary to have both a /b/ and a /pol/ these are just something that you would expect to find, the problem right now is that hakase messed up and half assed the job, my proposal is to rename /t/ to /pol/ but without the original natsoc rules(they don't encourage discussion and would be a mess to moderate anyway) and then create a new board called /b/(it's really important that it is called /b/ or people won't treat it as /b/) for shitposting, it would be great of course if the current shitposting threads on /t/ could be moved to the new /b/.
>merging the less active boards back into /l/
Depends on the boards, i think /k/ and /o/ are not really necessary but i'm definitely against deleting /a/ and /v/, i think that the problem with these boards is just that there's not really a community for them, advertising them would be the best move, /g/ is really active cause it was advertised on 8/tech/, anyway i don't think this is a priority since moderating them is really easy and they appear on the /overboard/ which everybody use anyway.
>"merging" /l/ and /t/ back into /b/
I disagree with this, the creation of /l/ made post quality better overall, and a ruleless board is useful to move low quality threads to, if thread moving gets implemented, to make tests posts, etc, as a general advice i would keep changes only to what is necessary.
>banning pornography across all boards
I strongly disagree, i won't start arguing on pornography and stuff cause it's offtopic(i don't even watch it lol) but i have several point against this move:
1. Rules should be non-opinionated as possible, to have better moderation is always better to make rules that doesn't have a wide range of interpretations, defining what pornography is(are nudes porn=, are ecchi porn?, are clothed erotica porn? depends on who you ask) and what is acceptable is gonna make moderation harder.
2. It is not really necessary, as i already stated is better to keep changes to what is necessary and nanochan already doesn't have that much porn to begin with.
3. It is kind of already banned, depending on your interpretation of low quality post porn is already banned on most boards other than /t/, so making a rule just for it would be only cumbersome, if the objective is to have good content then the anti-low quality content rule is enough already, the only reson to ban porn would be if the objective was to employ some kind of moralist agenda on the board.
4. It is never a good idea on an imageboard to tell users what to post, hakase was already a really bad offender when it comes to removing posts he didn't like, i hope you will be better nanon-kun.
>nyanonymous
>the default name
I mean it's a good meme, but i don't think we should change it AGAIN, like once it's enough, Nanonynous gives identity to the board for obvious reasons, Nyanonymous doesn't have much to do with nano, i may sound hypocrite cause(believe it or not) i was the guy that randomly proposed the Nanonymous name change in the global meta thread, mfw hakase actually did it, but i just think it would be confusing to change name once again expecially without an actual reason(i don't think we're rebranding nanochan or anything right?).
>if /l/ should stay curated (all shitposts should be made in the /test/-like board then)
Yes it should stay curated with the anti-low quality content rule, IMO every board other than /b/ should be curated.
I think a most wanted feature is the aformentioned thread moving, it would make moderation easier and help trasparency(instead of deleting stuff you could just move it to /b/), another wanted feature is to be able to give names to files/images like on most other imageboards, some people wanted the index view but to be fair i'm fine with catalog.
In general try to keep changes to what is necessary please, as long as you keep things cozy and you don't go full autistic we are all fine.
>>3569 >(i don't even watch it lol)
>post anime pic
Who is retard here you cartoon nigger? Do you really think porn is only when people fuck? If porn somehow never existed then anime would have like 5 cartoons because it's highly sexualized medium.
>defining what pornography is
I said it's hard, but necessary for keeping quality and being healthy place at the same time. With porn, you invite kikes.
>nanochan already doesn't have that much porn to begin with
Good point, quality was very high until recently. Imagine nano didn't have porn.
>It is kind of already banned, depending on your interpretation of low quality post porn is already banned on most boards other than /t/
Cartoon niggers still smuggle it with their posts even though it has nothing to do as anime pics serve no purpose other than sexual gratification.
>It is never a good idea on an imageboard to tell users what to post
It's not about what to post, but what not to post. You'll surely use buzzwords like "censorship" "freedom" but it has nothing to do with it. Jews like freedom of speech because they can deal with fucked up things, think obscenity.
>>3570 >Good point, quality was very high until recently.
>until recently
back it up nigger, I think I'm blind or something
>freedom of speech
well you clearly don't know what not to post, otherwise you wouldn't be requesting castration
>>3570 >defining what porn is
Simple porn is sexual intercourse between a man/woman and anything imaginable that involves penetration of any hole. Though most of us don't want to see nude men considering the majority here is probably masculine so we can include that as well.
>anime pics serve no purpose other than sexual gratification
This is wrong it really depends on the show(I don't watch it but I do read manga). I am a christian so I tend to attempt to avoid these things as much as I can but even then I can still see it in a lot of the work. Either way read the bible it helps define an objective morality rather than a subjective morality.
>buzzwords like censorship, freedom
To be honest people need a strong moral code to define right and wrong which is why "freedom" doesn't work and why monarchies were the superior form of government back in the medieval era albeit with some uneasy prospects. Europe entered into a golden age with monarchs it's decline is because too many people abuse the freedom they have been given. So only the faithful to God or people who have an extremely powerful will can act like good people.
>>3570 So in YOUR really detached from reality opinion:
anime = porn
cartoons = porn
whatever you don't like = porn
art = porn?
everything that gives you creative/artistic gratification = porn
If you just want to ban whatever you don't like just say it, don't hide behind moralfagging.
So pic related is porn i guess, also star-chan stop posting your filthy cartoon porn! it's scaring the children! Man you're worst than the kikes that works at (((google))).
Sharing anime pics is just a way to share stuff that you like, now you may dislike me, you may even hate me i don't give a fuck, but let me post what i want.
>>3573 >anime = porn
yes, with 2 exceptions
>cartoons = porn
no
>whatever you don't like = porn
no
>art = porn?
art means it has artistic value, so no, porn doesn't have artistic value
>everything that gives you creative/artistic gratification = porn
NO!
>If you just want to ban whatever you don't like just say it, don't hide behind moralfagging.
You don't understand.
>So pic related is porn i guess
Well, I don't know how to break it for you...
>also star-chan stop posting your filthy cartoon porn!
Eeee... how to...
>Man you're worst than the kikes that works at (((google))) You don't know what are you talking about. If I was a kike from google, then nano would be clearnet only, with the need to create google account with your personal data and phone veryfication, page would load only if javascript was enabled, captcha v3 would be required and your every, I'll add bold - EVERY move would be tracked. I hope I changed your mind.
>now you may dislike me
It's not that I dislike you, I like people from this site, I just want to make it a better place by removing porn. I'm actually pretty open, but porn isn't contributing anything valuable.
>>3564 >I think semen retention isn't complete bullshit. You didn't cum as a child, right? There has to be some correlation between retention and mind.
While having a sexual climax is taxing on your body, I don't believe it has anything to do with it at all. Well, mostly.
I believe that when you actually MATURE, you begin to BECOME INTERESTED in OPPOSITE SEX. And that itself is a complicated social game, nerve-wracking in like every aspect imaginable. And the most related to the discussion at hand fact would be that you will start wishing for at least SOMETHING essentially every time you see a cute girl.
But, again, while I kinda do realize what affects you, I think it shouldn't affect you that much.
>Good meme, they will tell me I'm fine.
Nah, I was talking mostly about how much of a kick into your whole system climaxing is, the most obvious being heartbeat rate increase. Like, do you even do sports, you fuken WIMP?
>Well, I like fighting with addictions
Don't fight them, it doesn't make sense. They define you as a human bean. It makes sense to control and manage them, but without some dopamine boost you'll become depressed.
>But to fap or view porn (it's nice, it's colorful, it's cute picture!!!)... I just fucking become weak, I lose energy, urges tell me I have to do it, even now I'm feeling it.
FUCKING NIGGER xD
Sorry xP
>>3574 >Eeee... how to...
I wanna say that if you fap to Star, you either have some advanced case of fap addiction, or you just love Star way too much for your own good.
Not that it's wrong though. xD
>>3575 >Don't fight them, it doesn't make sense. They define you as a human bean
>It makes sense to control and manage them, but without some dopamine boost you'll become depressed
Last few weeks weren't really enjoyable for me, what you say may be true actually. I try to get naturally dopamine boost but with only computer it's really hard to do, like you become desensitized. When I'm outside, I try to enjoy it and if it's new place with nice weather I might really enjoy it, but not for long.
>FUCKING NIGGER xD
I can't help it, that's the way nature intented men to reproduce no matter what. I know it sounds silly after making year nofap but apparently it's called Post-Acute-Withdrawal Syndrome (PAWS). I was still under porn influence though so it may not apply, it's really complicated. I just have to make sure I fap without porn, then I might try nofap.
Maybe I'm overthinking it, I have really boring life... I will never give up.
>>3576 She is cute but yeah not in that way, unless we talk fan pictures.
>>3577 I have created the Nanochan Psychiatric Hospital on /t/ for posters just like you. xD
Not that I promise to help, but sometimes it's the thought that counts.
>>3574 You clearly don't get my point...anime is not different than any form of art, saying that is porn is like saying that whatever else form of art is porn, yeah people make porn out of it(hentai) but it is the same for everything else, how fucking new are you? one of the rules of the internet is that is it exist there is porn of it, that doesn't mean that the media itself it's porn. Again if you think that pic related is porn it's just cause you have some kind of (((personal agenda))) against anime as a whole and you prove my point here >>3569 :
>Rules should be non-opinionated as possible, to have better moderation is always better to make rules that doesn't have a wide range of interpretations, defining what pornography is(are nudes porn=, are ecchi porn?, are clothed erotica porn? depends on who you ask) and what is acceptable is gonna make moderation harder.
you just cannot define exactly what porn is, it's subjective and you're the demostration of it, and moralfags like you are gonna exploit it to their own use to censor stuff, when i compared you to (((google))) i was obviously referring to how they censor everything they don't like on (((jewtube))), and look what kind of places is becoming, why are you even here on the darknet of all places?
This is supposed to be a cozy and laid-back place when you can discuss and post things you like, not a fucking hell full of rules, where every time you post you need to worry if it's acceptable by normies, fucking go back to (((Twitter))) and (((Reddit))) if that's what you want.
>>3576 Admit it you fap to Star on a daily basis! :D
>>3508 >>3555 a feature that i want, i you can call it a feature is for the html static pages to be regenerated often, let's say once a month so when stuff it's changed, like the UI or announcements, it gets fixed with the new HTMLs.
>>3579 While I do admit Star is very appealing if you actually watch the show and see her as a character, it's, like I said, some very advanced obsession.
Anyway even if I did, I was under the magic spell and I don't remember ANYTHING, OK? NOTHING. That's my story, at least. xD
>>3578 It's the fight I have to fight alone. While your help is appreciated, I can't bring you into this, Sorry. Now, the time has come, when I will face my inner demons.
cool ain't it? I found the part with inner demons while lurking the web for masturbation addiction or something along this. it's a joke if you didn't get it, I mean the text below, not my problem...
now serious stuff...
>>3579 I get you but you're not right. I base it on years of watching anime where 95% of series will have girls, cute girls, girls conquering Antarctica, girls fooling around, girls going camping, girls being in school club, girls Girls GIRLS!!! Add to it mandatory beach episode (or pool, the point being seeing girls in swimsuits). That's starter pack. Then we go deeper - ecchi. Virgin boy landing on hot girl, touching her boots or booty accidentally, boy having harem of lovely girls following him and you get the point. At last borderline hentai - a bit extreme than latter. Notice it's not even hentai AKA degeneracy 101.
Without erotic content, anime would be dead. Merchandise is based on sex. Figures, dakimakura, posters... name it.
If anime was more like One Outs less like Yuru Yuri, I wouldn't call anime porn. But if it was like I described, then this medium wouldn't be as successful. Hell, it wouldn't be medium, more like addition to movies to Tv series.
>why are you even here on the darknet of all places?
I care about anonymity and privacy, here I can write what I want without fear of being judged or getting on watchlist. It's a place with different (non-normie) people and I like it.
>not a fucking hell full of rules
Man, it's just about porn. Post what you want, hate me all you want, I can only respond to you. If you knew how to have fun without porn then maybe we would create something even greater. We will never know.
>>3582 >girls Girls GIRLS!!!
>Without erotic content, anime would be dead
You can have plenty of non-erotic(which means is NOT PORN) content with girls, you mentioned Yuru Yuri(great anime btw) there's literally nothing erotic in that anime, there are only girls, there is no erotic or sexual interaction between them beside innocent jokes(the kiss scene is mostly a recurrent meme with Akari), it's an anime only about FUN and yet is porn to you, please try to look rationally at this, look at your posts from an external perpective and it will be obvious that this is your problem(also judging by your other posts and another old thread that you did that i do remember), sorry for your problems bro but don't fucking ruin this good website cause of them.
>here I can write what I want without fear of being judged or getting on watchlist. It's a place with different (non-normie) people and I like it.
And yet you are judging me, and want to ban what i like, if you don't also give you will receive nothing in life.
>Man, it's just about porn. Post what you want, hate me all you want, I can only respond to you. If you knew how to have fun without porn then maybe we would create something even greater. We will never know.
I don't know you, i don't hate you, i don't care about you, i care about nanochan, anime is NOT porn no matter how many times you say it and banning random stuff cause you have a problem with it or you don't like it's a major red flag on the administration of the website, you start with this and then you start banning certain opinion cause you don't like them, and then you start filtering words and then you end up as a reddit clone, this is how websites dies.
>>3582 >everything is porn because it has a GIRL in it
Real life is porn, by your definition. Deal with it, faggot.
Porn is literally not even a problem here, because dump threads containing only porn and porn discussion are ALREADY BANNED under rule 2. Only a turbo-butthurt /pol/nigger would try to ban something that isn't a problem.
Please do not reinstate /pol/ instead replace it with /polk/ because it implies a change in board culture, I'll explain the differences. Every /pol/ board I've seen undergoes an entropy from the discussion of ideas and specific people into a high volume flood of happenings (meaningless current events) and shit posts (2bit responses) and as a result nothing meaningful can be learned. The good threads usually cannot support their own specialized board and therefore are flooded out by the shitty current events. By 'good threads' I mean the sort /eco/general, /sig/ , aryan spirituality, philosophy, economics, homesteading, and /k/. These topics are more meaningful, their content can be discussed and remain relevant beyond the measly day or two and also provide information to enable anons to leave in a better position than they began. That is not to say all current events are useless, after all they do provide fodder against political opponents, but their worth can only come from a meaningful synthesis and analysis of those events, think of Dr. Pierces's ADV broadcasts, or articles from the Occidental Observer, although not always to that caliber. By creating /polk/ it must be a culture different than /pol/'s, a higher one, that demands different and better users of a more mature base. In the end our purpose and should /polk/'s be is not to tear down this world, but to build a new one.
>>3591 >undergoes an entropy from the discussion of ideas and specific people into a high volume flood of happenings (meaningless current events) and shit posts (2bit responses) and as a result nothing meaningful can be learned
This is why /pol/ should not be recreated at all. /pol/ attracts these types of people, and adding one letter to the end of the board name does't do anything.
/pol/niggers create the most low quality threads and responses. They don't understand how to use technology, most of them can barely troubleshoot a tor browser issue. They are completely inept in every subject except for neetsocking online. Most /pol/niggers don't even know why they have to accept the security warning when they first connect to nanochan.
--/k/ and /o/ are too niche and should deleted
--get rid of /t/
--keep /l/ or rename it /b/ if that's what people want.
--don't care if /pol/ comes back
--create new board for news /n/ which can have a wide variety of topics
--3d softcore porn allowed. (ie. naked grills)
--2d porn everything allowed
>>3596 "Aryan spirituality" is a code word for schizoposting. Go on pig/pol/ and search for any "spirituality" or "ancient Aryan" thread, chock-full of boomers and retards jerking off to old statues and cave paintings.
>>3586 When you regularly masturbate to porn, you become desensitized. Stuff that used to fire you doesn't work anymore. But that doesn't mean it's not porn anymore.
In industry it's called "moe", being cute, girlish and all of this shit. It's not sexual per se, you don't want to fap to moe, but it abuses the same instinct. What I try to tell you are two things: first, stuff can arouse you if you don't regularly consume porn and two, moe is sexual but not pornographic.
Everything would be fine if it ended with "moe". But it doesn't, as shows have creep shots, leg shots, [insert part of body] shots, swimsuit episodes, short skirts and about anything that is sexual but retards will defend. Ponies are cute but no pornographic, "moe". anime is more than that and at first invisible for person. It took me some time to realize this because there had to be a reason why I'm drawn to anime, right? One Outs aside, it's pornographic nature of cartoons.
Separating "moe" and "pornographic" might be hard, but with little know how possible. Is it cute but not arousing? "moe". Is it cute and arousing? (softcore) pornography. Now you understand?
>>3587 And here's faggot posting porn pic without any reason.
>>everything is porn because it has a GIRL in it
Pornography has to be written. Real girls are not written but use their sexual appeal to influence men, just like in porn. What you propose to talk about is how to not be cuck and that's beyond the s ope of what we discuss.
>Porn is literally not even a problem here, because dump threads containing only porn and porn discussion are ALREADY BANNED under rule 2
THAT'S NOT ABOUT DUMPS YOU STUPID CARTOON NIGGER.
It's about posts like yours that have porn FOR NO GOOD REASON.
>Only a turbo-butthurt /pol/nigger would try to ban something that isn't a problem
It is a problem and has to be dealt with. No amount of half-truths will change that.
>>3598 >you become desensitized
Stop projecting you little nigger. Your personal defects are not representative of the healthy population. I've been fapping to the same fantasies since I was 11. By your malfunctioning logic, having a lot of sex with your girlfriend desensitizes you and causes degeneracy. It simply isn't, and cannot be true, unless you are mentally defective to begin with.
>moe
>it abuses the same instinct
There is no such thing as "abuse" of instincts, pathetic faggot. Any healthy person, upon seeing a template for a higher class of woman in the form of anime girls, should immediately seek this type of behavior in real women. This model for ideal female behavior will drive the shift towards less roastie-like women. If every woman acted like an anime girl, you'd still have problems, but they would be much less than if they all acted like the roasties they are now (especially among the cumskin population).
>stuff can arouse you if you don't regularly consume porn
No shit nigger. You can also get aroused if you see porn every day. It has no tangible effect, what you see for 3 seconds at most then move on to reading the post next to it.
>shows have creep shots, leg shots, swimsuit episodes, short skirts
Exactly how is this a problem? You are not obligated to fap to everything you see. You are supposed to enjoy the beauty for 1 second, 2 seconds, 3 seconds at most and then move on with the rest of the content. As usual, this type of fanservice is only a problem when it takes up most of the show. For example, the anime GTO (Great Teacher Onizuka) has fanservice, but the plot in and of itself is awesome too. The fanservice is merely an augmentation to what is already great. It is only a problem if they use it as a substitute for good content.
>it's pornographic nature of cartoons
So, back to the "anime = porn" line of thinking, eh?
>What you propose to talk about is how to not be cuck and that's beyond the scope of what we discuss
So you want to ban porn and remain a cuck? This sounds backwards to me. Typical cumskin behavior.
You can't avoid things that you don't like, especially if you have such a nebulous definition of pornography. Simply learn to deal with it so you can stop being a nigger.
>It is a problem and has to be dealt with
no u
>>3597 Sure, but that's pigchan so what can you expect but perhaps that was worded poorly, and I should elaborate. "Aryan" on /pol/ and "aryan spirituality" specifically refers to the pre-christian beliefs of those descended from the 'indo europeans'. It's really a patchwork of literature through time and space starting with the Mahabharata in Ancient India but also including the Hávamál and whatever in between from Greece and Rome. As you may see the differences in such works lead somebody to conclude 'aryan' is really an alternative to christian beliefs because of 'slave morality' or 'jesus was a jew' and the inclusion of traditional ancestral worship.
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>>3566 >more emphasis on the images rather than the text
>encourages file dumping
Yes and no, but it's not bad when you want to sketch something or post pics for illustration. Faster than making collage in gimp.
>>3598 >It is a problem and has to be dealt with.
You, and only you made this "problem" tbh. Until you brought it up nobody was posting anything.
just like this thread >>>/meta/3197
>>3598 >In industry it's called "moe", being cute, girlish and all of this shit. It's not sexual per se, you don't want to fap to moe, but it abuses the same instinct.
Moe is cute, cute is cute, it's a completely different thing than sexual arousal, if when you see something cute you feel sexually aroused well that's something that doesn't happen to other people that watch moe anime.
>Everything would be fine if it ended with "moe". But it doesn't, as shows have creep shots, leg shots, [insert part of body] shots, swimsuit episodes, short skirts
I lived in Japan and i assure you that high school girls do have mini-skirts(i'm not a creep you just see them around the city lol) in the real world, most japanese schools do have swimming lessons and uses the kind of bathsuit you see in anime(interestingly japanese girls hate that kind of bathsuit and find it uncool), so at most anime are being realistic, you can criticize some direction choices that have some lewd shots or jokes but like we are not in fucking afghanistan where women can't show any skin, and it may be that the director purpose was not even to be lewd in the first place, like maybe it's you that sees porn everywhere, think about it.
>anime is more than that and at first invisible for person. It took me some time to realize this because there had to be a reason why I'm drawn to anime, right? One Outs aside, it's pornographic nature of cartoons.
Dude you have no idea how many years i watched anime and no after decades of moe it's never really been sexual lol, the reason you are drawn to moe may vary depending on your personal story, in my case i watch them mostly to relax in a fantasy world.
>Separating "moe" and "pornographic" might be hard, but with little know how possible. Is it cute but not arousing? "moe". Is it cute and arousing? (softcore) pornography. Now you understand?
dafuc, no i don't understand, you sound crazy
>It's about posts like yours that have porn FOR NO GOOD REASON.
>It is a problem and has to be dealt with. No amount of half-truths will change that.
Why do i need a reason to post stuff i like, who are you to tell what to post, nobody else has this problem other than you, so it's not a problem, stop being egoistic and telling people what to do.
>>3602 So hinduism? Sorry, I'm not bovo. Religion? Again, I'm not bovo. Ancestors? Sorry, I'm Aryan, I'm the nation, I create nations, life imitates me, 'cause I'm the fuckin' Art.
>no javascript
>no cucknet
>no porn
This site unironically gets better and better all the time. Seriously a porn ban would no shit make nanochan the greatest imageboard in internet history. I don't know about the whole "treat all anime as porn" thing, but let's face it: pornposts are never good posts. Pornposts are either parts of mindless imagedumps, or it's just tits thrown on a random shitpost for attention-whoring purposes. Oh, wait, no, sometimes there's also those epic "hey guys check out this shit I just fapped to on sadpanda," as though anyone gives two fucks about what you're jacking off to you egotistic fuck.
Definitely give some serious consideration to the porn ban please, nanon.
>>3608 >supporting the porn ban
>posting anime
you do realize the admin is the same faggot who thinks anime is porn, right? you're not doing yourself any favors.
WE NEED HAPASE TO COME BACK HAPASE WHERE ARE YOU
>>3610 >you do realize the admin is the same faggot who thinks anime is porn, right?
If that's the admin, he's not posting with his capcode, so I'm not sure how you can tell. If by some odd chance you happen to be right though, I'd be happy to try and make the necessary arguments against that. Regardless, I do think that a porn ban would raise the overall quality of the site.
>>3611 Do you think hakase posted only with the capcode? Admins usually posts with capcode only when necessary, the porn addicted faggot is most probably the admin, look >>3574 :
>If I was a kike from google, then nano would be clearnet only, with the need to create google account with your personal data and phone veryfication, page would load only if javascript was enabled, captcha v3 would be required and your every, I'll add bold - EVERY move would be tracked.
and then
>It's not that I dislike you, I like people from this site, I just want to make it a better place by removing porn. I'm actually pretty open, but porn isn't contributing anything valuable.
this makes me think he is, man i never thought i would say this but i miss hapase.
>Regardless, I do think that a porn ban would raise the overall quality of the site.
That is a false statement, cause nobody was posting porn in the first place, unless you also think anime is porn like the other faggot, so to list porn threads we had: we had the anal thread and it makes sense in a discussion about anal to post porn so it's fine, the lolicon thread which was nuked by hapase and then there is the star porn thread which is just a meme thread i made to pick on starfag(<3), whoa muh national nanochan porn epidemic, even the fucking /t/ gas chamber is porn-free and mostly SFW, now tell me how banning porn is gonna make post quality better is there is none to begin with, this is just the new admin pushing his personal issues on us, exploiting his position and abusing his power.
>>3612 >That is a false statement, cause nobody was posting porn in the first place
You know what this shit reminds me of? All those faggots trying to push CoCs into open source. There was never a problem until they made one.
this is a wild anime grill inside a milk box, she may seem innocuous but don't lower your guard! cause the moment you look at her you will feel an impossible to resist urge to jack off until you are gonna left dried up of all your semen and are gonna die, this is how this kind of anime grills hunt and they are really dangerous. so many nanons already died to this really dangerous species of anime grill, please do the right thing and sign this petition to ban the anime boxed grills!
>>3612 >That is a false statement, cause nobody was posting porn in the first place
That's certainly a good point. The posters on this site are of a much higher caliber than the ones on cuckchan and pigchan and can reliably trusted not to make the same kinds of abominable shitposts that you see on those other sites. Even so, I think a general porn ban would be effective in making sure that those undesirable elements continue to stay out.
Again, I'm not the retard who thinks that anime is porn or that it ought to be banned. Actually, it would be really fucking stupid to ban anime on an imageboard named after an anime character. I mean for fuck's sake we've got two anime characters in the front page logo and another in the favicon. An outright ban on anime would be completely antithetical to the culture this site has had since its inception.
>>3614 >faggots trying to push CoCs into open source
you give them finger and they'll devour your whole body
gtfo >>3616, you are one of the undesirable elements here
>>3616 So, don't fix what isn't broken. Whining about what a huge problem it is doesn't change the fact that it is NOT a problem at the moment. As the other anon said, this /pol/tard screeching is reminiscent of leftists trying to add CoCs into software even though there was no problem to begin with. Introduce the rule if and only if the porn becomes an actual problem.
Plus, global rule #2 states the following:
>Flooding is not permitted. We define flooding as posting similar posts more than 3 times per hour, making a thread on a topic for which a thread already exists, or posting in such a way that it significantly changes the composition of a board. Common sense will be utilized.
This pretty much already ensures that if people start posting tons of porn threads, they are bannable. Rule #2 is a catch-all rule which is intended to maintain the status quo of the imageboard, which is very sensible, since abrupt changes (surge of newfags, for example) are usually not desirable.
>>3614 >>3617 That's a really effective strategy to control a narrative, you first create a problem and them offer to solve it, wouldn't be surprised if admin starts spamming porn just to prove that it's a problem.
It's all so tiresome.
>>3618 Yeah, you're probably right. I don't know why I was having visions of nano turning into cuckchan /b/. Regardless of the site's rules, the very nature of what it is is probably repellent enough for shitposting normalfags. I'll vote against major rule changes then.
hey admin: don't forget to do the following as well, this was part of the old nanochan server configuration. Set up a cronjob to vacuum and backup the database daily, this will keep database cruft to a minimum and ensure you can restore from major problems:
Anyway admin is online, look at pic related. So since you're obviously reading this, mind joining this discussion admin? Are you the anti-animefag or not? What's your conclusion on this whole affair?
Admin here, I'll just use my capcode from now on if I keep getting impersonated
>>3612 No he's fucking not, I'm trying to not namefag as much but it seems like you guys are too much of a faggot for it to not be necessary.
>>3622 Yeah, I'm already doing this hourly. But thanks for the reminder
>>3623 >you're obviously reading this
I haven't got around to reading this thread yet. Still haven't. No conclusion yet, but I'm definitely not the anti-animefag
>>3626 >>3523 is the only post where I revealed my stance on porn. The idea was added into the OP as a joke, to show that no suggestion is off limits, at least for discussion.
If you're not the anti-animefag guy better for us i guess.
It can be confusing in this kind of instances, if you're speaking officially in a multiple-parties discussion like in >>3523 or >>3555(if that was you) then it preferable, actually it would be better to use it always when you make official statements so if people go back to a thread to check they can be sure.
I would give him the benefit of the doubt, i mean who cares even if he was as long as he manages nano in a reasonable way.
Actions are more important than words, you should judge people on their actions, so let's see what he does.
>>3602 >It is pre-christian belief's
How do you know they are accurate? Germanics didn't start writing things down until the christian's came along and decided to teach them how to write. How do you know that most of the stuff you are learning about isn't a fraud? Christianity has been the religion for 2000 years and it is literally the bed rock for most european civilisations. Without christianity you get the clown world we currently reside in. The reason the world is in the state it is currently in is because of the decline of christianity and you are supporting the destruction of western civilisation. The bible practically explains everything wrong with the world and how to fix it. We need a return to christendom not a return to pre christian beliefs where the germanic people were savages.
Isaiah 5:20
“Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light, and light for darkness; that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter!”
Am I a believer that Germanic people's would have never built a civilisation without christianity? no but would it have taken longer? definitely christian missionaries went out and preached the gospel and used everything in their power to convert the pagan's to christianity. I would also like to say that bringing up the africans as a "counter argument" is stupid because they have different characteristics which are not as well suited to large scale civilisation. Race realism is true which is why when I say christianity is a bedrock of european civilisation what I am really saying is that european's had the right qualities to become great under christendom.
One thing I believe is that the tolerant christians are the first that need to go. The ones that tolerate everything are actually called out specifically in the bible.
Revelation 3:15-19
"I know thy works, that thou art neither cold nor hot: I would thou wert cold or hot. 16So then because thou art lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will spue thee out of my mouth. 17Because thou sayest, I am rich, and increased with goods, and have need of nothing; and knowest not that thou art wretched, and miserable, and poor, and blind, and naked: 18I counsel thee to buy of me gold tried in the fire, that thou mayest be rich; and white raiment, that thou mayest be clothed, and that the shame of thy nakedness do not appear; and anoint thine eyes with eyesalve, that thou mayest see. 19As many as I love, I rebuke and chasten: be zealous therefore, and repent."
>>3608 >>3610 I still think that we should make a porn containment board that way both sides are somewhat appeased. Also who is the complete idiot who thinks all cartoons are porn?
>>3632 >Muh bibble
I don't have time for a proper response right now but I will say that bibble says anything and everything. Christcucks will pull anything out of DA BIBBLE to support what they say. People use DA BIBBLE to support homosexuality. People use DA BIBBLE to support multiculturalism and feminism, and to oppose those things as well. It's just like Islam, people use DA KARAN to both support and condemn religious violence and attacks.
Here's the modified plan:
>rename /t/ to /pol/ (or something else)
>lock all unrelated threads in /t/, move to /b/ when thread migration is implemented
>make a new /b/ board, where shitposts are allowed and undesirable/autosaged threads get moved to. It can also act as the old /test/
>default name remains unchanged
>/l/ stays curated, name remains unchanged (I don't really like it, but there's no opposition to it either)
>porn or nudity, cartoon or otherwise, is completely allowed, no restrictions (final fuck you to the imposter). The only exceptions are if they are spam or made with the intent to derail a thread. In serious threads, it is recommended to use an image spoiler (when it exists), or to just not post your shitty 3d porn in them, for fucks sake.
>/k/ and /o/ are locked, and threads moved to /l/ when possible
Still unsure about:
>the dumping rules, if they should only be allowed in /b/ and /ar/, or should dumping in /l/ be allowed
If you'd like to add anything or give your opinion on any of the above, now's the chance.
I'll say it again, I only added the porn suggestion in the OP as a joke. I don't think anime is shit, and that I wouldn't even try equating it to porn, holy fuck.
>>3569 I don't think /pol/ should be a general politics board, but for natsoc specific discussion, because that's what the place was made to be to begin with. Would the original community even want to use such a /pol/ anymore? Since /pol/ was already politically homogenous, they were able to discuss politics at a deeper level, instead of bickering about the same shit over and over again like most other places do. I don't post there myself, but these are my observations.
Maybe it could be renamed to something else, if that is acceptable. Regular politics can still be discussed on /l/, if it isn't being done to derail an unrelated/apolitical thread.
>>3632 >porn containment board
You'd have to ban it outside of the board for a containment board to work in the first place. And I don't find the prospect of becoming a hosting provider for porn appealing.
>>3600 How can you be so sure you're healthy if you never experienced abstinence for longer time? It's the mentioned "I think I'm fine so is everyone else".
>having a lot of sex with your girlfriend desensitizes you and causes degeneracy
Well you can become addicted to sex, so it's possible, but porn is unnatural superstimuli - it gives high comparable to that of drugs.
>unless you are mentally defective to begin with
No person can look at porn and not get drawn, unless you are desensitized. Brain is thinking this girl is real and pushes you to reproduce. Even if I did nofap, it was hard to get my eyes off anime girls in swimsuits.
>There is no such thing as "abuse" of instincts, pathetic faggot
Then why people become addicted?
>Any healthy person, upon seeing a template for a higher class of woman in the form of anime girls, should immediately seek this type of behavior in real women
anime girls are idealized to the point real ones don't exist, but again that's out of the scope.
>You can also get aroused if you see porn every day
Sure, but "vanilla" stuff at some time doesn't do the trick, so you seek more extreme material. Will you always get aroused by that one pic or the same character? I doubt, you will want something new. And that's how we get addicted.
>You are not obligated to fap to everything you see
Tell junkie he's not obligated to drink at every occasion.
>You are supposed to enjoy the beauty
It's not beauty, it's your reproductive instinct.
>So, back to the "anime = porn" line of thinking, eh?
Most are for fuck's sake, tell me 5 animes that are not sexualized in slightest way. Hard mode: no One Outs, Kaiji, Usagi Drop (girl isn't sexual), Anohana (prostitute thing isn't meant to arouse you) and Inuyashiki. Protip you can't or you will state some niche ones no one ever watched.
>So you want to ban porn and remain a cuck? This sounds backwards to me. Typical cumskin behavior
Interpret how you want, cartoon nigger.
>>3604 >Moe is cute, cute is cute, it's a completely different thing than sexual arousal
It's the same thing overall. Watch non sexualized anime like One Outs and you will see you don't get that "sexual high" (rather high from cartoon being cool, but that's different thing). It can even appear bleak for you if it doesn't have girls.
>I lived in Japan and i assure you that high school girls do have mini-skirts
They are longer than that presented in anime.
>most japanese schools do have swimming lessons and uses the kind of bathsuit you see in anime
Yeah but if you ever saw girls in swimsuits you wouldn't get instantly aroused because it wouldn't be arousing. That's normal behavior, but pornified culture is telling us main character gets so aroused just by looking at the girl in swimsuit. It just doesn't happen in real life. Compare naked girls in art to dressed anime girls. Former is not arousing while latter is. I don't know how simpler I can tell you this.
>in my case i watch them mostly to relax in a fantasy world
I remember one time I was feeling so lonely I thought "damn, I want to watch something with cute girls". Doesn't matter what it's about - it had to have GIRLS! Instant gratification hard to come irl.
>dafuc, no i don't understand, you sound crazy
Sorry but I'm running out of cards, I just don't know how I have to present this to you so you can understand my point.
moe - cute girl
softcore pornography - cute girl that arouses you by legs, chest, dress, name it
Do you get "moe" feel with boys? Most likely no, unless boy is really feminime and presented similarly like a girl (long hair, cute voice, girly interests etc).
>Why do i need a reason to post stuff i like, who are you to tell what to post
It's the "stop liking what I don't like". I don't want to see porn because it's harmful, distracting and doesn't contribute to the site. It has extra advantage of raising quality of posts.
>>3634 That's fine. But one thing that I would like to request all else is that you keep all rules of /l/ as they currently are, if you're going to create a new /t/ board.
Why don't you just rename the existing /t/ to /pol/ and then create a new /t/?
>>3635 >How can you be so sure you're healthy if you never experienced abstinence for longer time? It's the mentioned "I think I'm fine so is everyone else".
When I actually have a reason not to fap (i.e. living in close proximity to others during a 3-week camp), I don't fap at all and there is no problem. When there is no reason not to, I do whatever.
>Well you can become addicted to sex, so it's possible, but porn is unnatural superstimuli - it gives high comparable to that of drugs.
Dumb fucker. Porn is not as good as real sex. Otherwise, people wouldn't have sex at all because according to you, porn is so much better.
>No person can look at porn and not get drawn, unless you are desensitized.
This reminds me of the roasties who say "If you don't find me hot, UR GAY XDDD". Just stop projecting and maybe you'll have an easier time.
>Then why people become addicted?
Why do most functional people not become addicted?
Most people have tasted alcohol before. If it's so easy to get addicted, then why is it not the case that everyone is a blackout drunk 24/7?
>anime girls are idealized to the point real ones don't exist, but again that's out of the scope.
They are the ideal, but they aren't real. Therefore, the desire, for me at least, is to seek the closest possible to that ideal which actually exists IRL. Where the demand exists, there will be a supply created.
>Sure, but "vanilla" stuff at some time doesn't do the trick, so you seek more extreme material. Will you always get aroused by that one pic or the same character? I doubt, you will want something new. And that's how we get addicted.
Nah. You're just projecting. Anal is considered "normal" behavior, but I get totally turned off by even anal porn, because it's disgusting. This has not changed, and I don't think it ever would. The only things I've ever been fapping to are just clothed or plain naked 2d, or clothed 3d. I find naked 3d porn disgusting because I know the girl in the picture is a massive whore, and I don't like whores.
>Tell junkie he's not obligated to drink at every occasion.
As I said, it is common to not drink. And if you are forced to fap to EVERY mildly sexual picture you see, then YOU are the problem, not the "porn".
>Most are for fuck's sake, tell me 5 animes that are not sexualized in slightest way. Hard mode: no One Outs, Kaiji, Usagi Drop (girl isn't sexual), Anohana (prostitute thing isn't meant to arouse you) and Inuyashiki. Protip you can't or you will state some niche ones no one ever watched.
>sexualized in slightest way
Being sexualized in a slight way does not make it porn. Your question does not match your position, unless you are going to admit that everything with girls = porn. Girls are inherently sexual to us, but that does not mean you have to fap to them, or that you have to focus exclusively on the sexual aspect.
Do you try to rape every woman you see on the street? You just have no self control, and that's your problem.
>Yeah but if you ever saw girls in swimsuits you wouldn't get instantly aroused because it wouldn't be arousing. That's normal behavior, but pornified culture is telling us main character gets so aroused just by looking at the girl in swimsuit. It just doesn't happen in real life. Compare naked girls in art to dressed anime girls. Former is not arousing while latter is. I don't know how simpler I can tell you this.
It sounds to me like you are just saying that you are attracted to porn, but not to the exact same situation in real life. This is clearly a defective behavior in you, not a problem with "porn".
>I remember one time I was feeling so lonely I thought "damn, I want to watch something with cute girls". Doesn't matter what it's about - it had to have GIRLS! Instant gratification hard to come irl.
So? You want gratification, and you can't get it IRL no matter how hard you try. Better to have something than nothing, even if it's fake and unreal. Eventually, you will want the real thing, and if you don't then it's your own problem.
>I don't want to see porn because it's harmful, distracting and doesn't contribute to the site. It has extra advantage of raising quality of posts.
it's harmful to retards with mental disease and low self control, I'll give you that.
>>3636 Because of what another anon said, most aren't going to bother posting on a shitposting board, but they're more likely to if it's called /b/. So the new /t/ is gonna be called /b/.
>>3633 >people use the bible to support homosexuality
Which is why God burned down sodom and gomorrah because of their homosexual acts and in the new testament paul states that it's a sin deserving of death see romans 1
>Multiculturalism
The antichrist during the end times will bring about a global government not to mention God states that nations should be more similar to ancient israel. Note numbers 36:6 and nehemiah 13:23->
>The bible supports feminism
The bible is anti feminist it tells women to be quiet in church and support their husband and to dress in modest apparel. See 1 corinthians 14:34-35 or better yet ephesians 5:23
You probably are getting the muh bible supports all the evil of the world because they all take 1 verse of context I'll show you the verse in it's entirety.
>Galatians 3:28-29
"There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus.
29 And if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise."
Emphasis on for ye are all in one in christ Jesus. This is talking spiritually not fleshly. Which is why romans 1 talks about how homosexuality is a sin deserving of death. Yet this supposedly contradicts it. This verse ironically also destroys the jew's are God's chosen people narrative which is why they conveniently miss out on galatian's 3:29. Either way The type that tolerate everything are literally going to hell like I explained in my previous post.
>>3642 >There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus.
This can also be interpreted as:
>It doesn't matter what race, status or sex you are as long as you follow DA JEEBUS because DA JEEBUS is more important than actual, physical differences.
and is commonly interpreted as such, especially by christcuck leftist. In fact, that is what I would usually read it as. DA BIBBLE is just a large conglomeration of inconsistent, loosely interpreted gabble by a flock of sand-niggers in the desert. Nothing more, nothing less.
>>3639 >>3640 /t/ already has a few pages of shitposting. That proves you wrong. I suggest we do away with the particular name of /b/ because people are going to try and conduct their serius biznis there, which will cause problems when it mixes with shitposting. Naming it /t/ would make it very clear - by the very name of the board - what content is to be expected there.
>It doesn't matter what race, status or sex you are as long as you follow DA JEEBUS because DA JEEBUS is more important than actual, physical differences.
This is similar to being equal in the eyes of the court. You are equal in the eyes of God. That doesn't mean we equal in every single aspect.
Are there any plans of properly doing database code? Hakase clearly didn't know what she was doing. Some things she did wrong were having no constraints, not using auto increment, incorrectly doing transactions, and not adding indexes to tables. It's clear she just did enough to get it to work and didn't care about actually making it somewhat performant or to actually avoid race conditions.
Also you should change the way the random seed is chosen. It literally takes 1 random byte + a UNIX timestamp (based off seconds). This can improve your chance of guessing the captcha from a 0.0000003237% chance to a 0.39% chance. The best fix is just to take more random bytes and don't involve the time.
>>3645 So DA GAHD thinks that niggers and master race are "equal"? Sounds like DA GAHD and DA JEBUS are retards then. Plus, DA JEBUS and dA GAHD don't even exist lmao.
>>3643 Well yeah if you look at it in a vacuum. Here's the thing though. This isn't the only verse in the entire bible. People picking one verse and twisting its meaning is different from people taking many verses and using it to explain a single verse and how it works. You completely ignored my ENTIRE POST and proceeded just to go to the final bit where I say that it is in a spiritual sense when I also brought up multiple points before that to disprove the previous arguments. Also you can't be a christian if you don't even attempt to follow the teachings of Jesus. So the term "christcuck leftist" is an oxymoron. Read the thing your critiquing before actually criticising it otherwise you look stupid.
>>3647 God is the only thing that makes logical sense. If you actually take the time to think about it. According to "Scientists" the world was created from a singularity and then started expanding. Here's the thing where did the singularity come from? scientists will then try to explain it away with something else. Then where did that come from and it will go in an ever ending loop and nothing conclusive will ever be found. Unless you believe in God. You see God is this thing called omnipotent which means he would be able to do the impossible and he is also omnipresent meaning he can exist even when nothing exists. Which can explain away how the universe was created unlike science
>God thinks niggers and master race are equal
Well he certainly think's they're smarter than you that's for sure. You want to know the hilarous thing about /pol/acks they don't even realize they are similar to the jews they hate because jew's also see themselves as superior.
>>3649 >According to "Scientists" the world was created from a singularity and then started expanding. Here's the thing where did the singularity come from?
The answer is really easy brainlet, since the flow of time is related to entropy, "time" didn't exist before the big bang, time started flowing as the universe started, there is no concept as before if there was no "time".
>>3634 Every point of the plan sounds really reasonable to me, i'm on board.
>the dumping rules, if they should only be allowed in /b/ and /ar/, or should dumping in /l/ be allowed
My opinion is that dumps are more of a /b/ thing, even if you need it on a thread in another board, for example you need a dump of lot of screenshots or i don't know, you can always make a thread on /b/ and post a link to it.
>I don't think /pol/ should be a general politics board, but for natsoc specific discussion
I don't think there is that much of a natsoc community in nano, like before the "split" /pol/ was dead since the Christchurch terrorist attack, and that had nothing to do with natsoc. I you want to keep a politics board on nano and you want quality content on it, it would be better to make it more about philosophy, since politics is kind of philosophy if you take away the banter about news and the memes. Or go the opposite way and make it more about memes and news, but like outside some nazi-larping i wouldn't expect much discussion if you make it only about natsoc and at this point as you said they could just make a natsoc thread on /l/.
>>3644 I strongly recommend using /b/ for the banter board, something really important in managing a website is communication, when your average imagboard user discovers nano he's not gonna go and study the whole history of nanochan, in a perfect world people would lurk but we don't live in a perfect world and when they discover nano without a /b/ they will shitpost on /l/, instead everybody knows what /b/ is what content goes there, calling a shitposting board something else than /b/ it's like calling a smartphone an handheld computational device, i mean you would not be wrong but it's not good marketing and if i'm looking to buy a smartphone i probably won't buy your handheld computational device, if you know what i mean.
Also another "feature" that i think would be good, it's to have better clarity with the rules, right now it's kind of confusing, cause the two global rules are there in the home page and it's fine, then it says boards can choose their rules and you have the /l/ and /t/ rules threads in their catalogs, but then the other boards have no rule threads at all even if they are supposed to have the same rules as /l/(at least during hakase administration), i tried asking hakase to change it...too lazy of course(https://nanochanqwrwtmamtnhkfwbbcducc4i62ciss4byo6f3an5qdkhjngid.onion/meta/3253.html#post3330).
Now my proposal to make things better:
1. Create a rules thread for each board, so it's clear, you can also kind of copypaste them or make them really simple
2. In the home page in the board list, after the link and the subject, put a link to each board rules thread, so newfags can't miss it
3. (Optional and kind of off-topic) Normalize the boards subtitles, right now not every board has one, for example of the boards we want to keep /meta/, /a/ and /ar/ don't have a subtitle, also hakase chose them and since she abandoned this place i propose to make a thread for the community to decide new subtitles, we could also change them sometime to meme around.
These are just text changes so should be easy.
>>3644 >because people are going to try and conduct their serius biznis there
I don't see what's wrong with it, if you want to start a serious discussion on /t/-/b/ right now it's okay too. I just don't like the idea of giving the containment board treatment to all low quality posting.
>>3646 >database
Yeah, there's room for improvement. But it involves changing a large part of the code, and it isn't really broken at its current state, so it's going to stay low priority for now.
>don't involve the time
Every single implementation I found for lua's random seed selection only takes the time, the random byte grabber was my own addition. I took another shot at it, but I might be doing something wrong here.
>>3652 This is me.
>>3651 >on /pol/
Makes sense, but I'm still not sure about opening the floodgates on /pol/. Low activity isn't really an issue, since /a/ and /v/ has historically been pretty quiet boards anyway. For now, the board will still be "explicitly natsoc", but I'll wait for further input before making any decision about that.
>>3654 If you're worried about the retardation that comes with nu/pol/ culture, consider calling it /new/ instead. /new/smen had opinions that were generally compatible with the /pol/ worldview, but with less autism. People from similar boards with different names tend to identify with each other less, so going back to the name the community had before it was called /pol/ would hopefully encourage users to leave behind those low-quality elements that have been picked up since 2016. Or as >>3592 suggested it might be worth looking into a new name altogether like /p/.
>>3564 It's not like the board was ever natsoc at all, the only nationalists there were 3-4 people who used nationalist rethoric to not get deleted and they were either anarchists or actual socialists, therefore /left(y)pol/, other than that /pol/ was the usual homoglobo white lifting american conservative and consumerist retardation desperately calling for their own annihilation.
If you'll delete /pol/tards on /l/ or whatever the board'll be called then it's a-okay, restore /pol/ in all it's glory.
>>3655 Hey, don't put words in my mouth. I've never said I hated /pol/, or any of its flavors, I'm just neutral about it. Right now if /pol/ is restored, it'll keep its original rules, but it's still up for discussion. I'll hear what others have to say about it.
>>3657 Personally i would prefer a more open to discussion kind of politics board, in general i don't think there should be a "protected" kind of opinion, this applies to SJW shit and also to nazi shit.
I also think it should be named either /p/ or /n/.
So i have this autistic idea of changing the nanochan spelling in certain places on the websites to なのちゃん, which is nanochan in japanese, some of you faggots would like it? :D in particular i would like to change it in the tab title or in the main page somewhere.
>Most people have tasted alcohol before. If it's so easy to get addicted, then why is it not the case that everyone is a blackout drunk 24/7?
Not everyone is suitable to become addicted to alcohol.
>Therefore, the desire, for me at least, is to seek the closest possible to that ideal which actually exists IRL
Cartoon are idealized to the point you can't get your dream girl IRL because it's beyond possible. Porn actress are also idealized.
>Anal is considered "normal" behavior, but I get totally turned off by even anal porn, because it's disgusting
Have you heard about the word "taste"?
>The only things I've ever been fapping to are just clothed or plain naked 2d, or clothed 3d
>I find naked 3d porn disgusting
So you're not extreme as people that fap to trap guro mind control but it doesn't mean it's okay. Clothed is softcore no matter what you project.
>And if you are forced to fap to EVERY mildly sexual picture you see, then YOU are the problem, not the "porn"
No, I'm not forced to fap like you say but I might get turned on. Crushing this feeling is not tad easy and what you say is like giving junkie heroin on display and telling him "don't do it".
>Being sexualized in a slight way does not make it porn
It's softcore pornography.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Softcore_pornography >Softcore pornography or softcore porn is commercial still photography or film that has a pornographic or erotic component but is less sexually graphic and intrusive than hardcore pornography. It typically contains nude or semi-nude actors involved in love scenes, and is intended to be sexually arousing and aesthetically beautiful.
more important
>Portions of images that are considered too explicit may be obscured in a variety of ways, such as the use of draped hair or clothing, carefully positioned hands or other body parts, carefully positioned foreground elements in the scene (often plants or drapery), and carefully chosen camera angles. >Do you try to rape every woman you see on the street?
You're making mistake by comparing real girls to porn.
>It sounds to me like you are just saying that you are attracted to porn, but not to the exact same situation in real life.
>This is clearly a defective behavior in you, not a problem with "porn".
What? That's how porn damages normal human relationships, check links I copied. If you still imply after all this walls of text that porn is harmless then you either lack
Sorry, I've already made my point and I won't answer anymore. Discussion with you guys is pointless as you state lies, imply I exaggerate, tell half-truths or simply automatically assume I'm not right. Oh, you didn't state 5 cartoons without sexual content. No wonder since they're rare.
>>3661 No, fuck japland, japs and weebfaggotry you present.
>>3658 Reasonable. Maybe a new politics board? If there's enough political discussion on the other boards, I'll make it. /pol/ could also be renamed, if you make good suggestions for a name and others like the idea too I would do it.
For now, these changes have been implemented:
>rename /t/ to /pol/
>lock all unrelated threads in /t/, move to /b/ when thread migration is implemented
>make a new /b/ board, where shitposts are allowed and undesirable/autosaged threads get moved to. It can also act as the old /test/
>default name remains unchanged
>/l/ stays curated, name remains unchanged
>porn or nudity, cartoon or otherwise, is completely allowed, no restrictions. The two global rules still apply.
>/k/ and /o/ are locked, and threads moved to /l/ when it's possible
>dumping rules remain the same, and are only allowed in /b/ or /ar/
>>3663 /pol/ might not remain as the final name, some have suggested it be renamed to /p/. Not sure if that's the name I'll go with, so I'm still open to suggestions.
>>porn or nudity, cartoon or otherwise, is completely allowed, no restrictions. The two global rules still apply.
What a shame. Compromising quality so weeaboos can post pictures.
>>3665 I'm not weeaboo.
>>3664 /p&p/ - politics&philosophy or prophets&pastors
/pp/ - political philosophy
/pppp/ - philosophy of politics and political philosophy
/plato/ - we don't seek the truth
/pol/ - politics
/pan/ - salute the flute
There are nine (9) boards aside from meta. You can delete /o/ and /k/ outright. If /b/ and /l/ are going to coexist, might as well remove /b/ from the board list since it has no purpose other than a garbage dump. Then put a character between /meta/+/ar/ and the rest, since they're not traditional boards.
OR
just rename /pol/ back to /t/ and list it
/l//g//b/t//a//v/ - /meta//ar/
>>3676 /k/ and /o/ are locked, until their threads can be transferred over to /l/. /b/ does not show up on the catalog. The board list is dynamically generated, and I'm not too keen on changing that fact just yet, so no dashes. I can reorder the boards in the database though.
>>3518 > I would like to change the default name to "Nyanonymous"
You can sort of do it with CSS.
I suppose, I'll hide "pol" from the upper boards list.
>>3679 We already have Nano as a personal mascotte, but sure let's make it a random flat vector art with no personality, cause of muh personal crusade against anime
>>3692 >I never acknowledged it as one
Well unfortunately majority rule not to mention that this board is literally named after the character. You're being overly hostile to a bunch of drawings it's honestly pathetic.
>>3699 I know I don't watch anime anymore either I read the manga instead. I'm saying that you're overreacting about drawings. People enjoy things that you don't. Not everyone is like you.
>>3704 /pol/ is up for the reason /a/ and /v/ are up - they are part of the original set of boards. The topics of the boards you requested do not yet have a significant presence on nanochan, to the point that it justifies having its own board.
>>3712 This is very reasonable BTW
Don't just go creating boards when there's no demand. Let the dust settle a bit, at least.
/pol/ being up is OK, it just needs more attention.
>>3714 Yes, but it was run by underage boy who in the end, on request of populace, turned /pol/ into /t/. Many, probably all poltards left back then, unfortunately also many regular posters resulting in change of ownership.
So, is there any Final Solution to the /pol/ Question?
lebensreform was both left and right however the leftist elements fled to america and later started the back to land movement while the right wing ones were absorbed by the NSDAP, so it's more 3rd position than anything.
>>3718 >lebensreform
There's hardly any reason to use german board name.
(((self-improvement))) threads are subhuman as fuck too >duurrr nhatzee
>>3591 "3rd" position is pol too
>>3721 >There's hardly any reason to use german board name
I chose lebensreform not because it was german, but in the spirit that different political views can be tolerated so long as the vitality of the people is first and foremost. For example, my friends (white) and I manage a community garden, and there are people on both "sides" of the political spectrum but at the end of the day we all work the land.
>(((self-improvement))) threads are subhuman as fuck too
If it decays into narcissism and trolling, the yes it is, but could you explain how else those threads might be subhuman.
>"3rd" position is pol too
<it's complicated
True, and by definition 3rd position is a synthesis of left/right ideas while in opposition to both sides. /pol/ has already made up its mind on political ideas, which is an a priori defense of ns policy, rather than trying to discuss many ideas and synthesize a 3rd position. Basically, /pol/ isn't "true" 3rd position and to use an analogy take the hiking of a mountain. /pol/ is like a dropping a person on the summit and asking them to describe the journey, they cannot because the act of hiking itself includes to process of getting to the summit which they did not do. In the same way the journey of 3rd position is evaluating left/right ideas and the summit is the synthesis. Without the journey you cannot understand how you got there.
>>3652 >and it isn't really broken at its current state
Well there is a race condition in which if two people post at the same time the posts will get the same number and one of them will be overwritten. If you want I could work on it a bit and submit a patch.
>Every single implementation I found for lua's random seed selection only takes the time
This wouldn't be as bad if it wasn't reseeded so often. The RNG is reseeded every single time it generates a captcha. This simplifies the process of bruteforcing the current seed since you don't have to also bruteforce how many previous numbers you have generated. Also what you saw were probably for less critical things.
>>3708 >/pol/ is up for the reason /a/ and /v/ are up - they are part of the original set of boards
Wrong. While /pol/ and /a/ were part of the original set, /v/ was not.
>>3655 Seconded. Rename /pol/ to /new/ to get rid of the NEETsoc larpers
>>3663 There's only one guy who really wants to ban porn, and he makes tons of threads and repeats himself all the time. I suggest ignoring him. Can't argue with a parrot, after all.
>>3679 This logo is gay and it was made with photoshop.
Anime is superior to your gay macfag photoshop logo.
The old logo is superior to all others.
>>3741 You repeat yourself all the time, I state valid arguments while you try to achieve something with pathetic strawmans and half-truths. No matter how many people state something is bad, it is bad. It can be only me, 2 anons or millions or people.
>>3727 They won't be in the catalog, they're autosaged.
>>3739 >race condition
Does it actually happen? I think it did once but my memory is hazy. The server processes requests one after the other anyway, and the database keeps track of the largest post number separately, so I can't see why there'd be one.
>I could work on it a bit and submit a patch.
Sure, why not.
>/v/ was not
/v/ was made at around the formative weeks of nanochan, I'd consider it part of the original set. But that's just a technicality.
>>3734 I don't have problem with it originating in germany but with using german name for it. I also have problem that it implies certain materialistic weltbild and thus forms the board. >explain how else those threads might be subhuman
It's self-"improvement". Thus you "improve" yourself. The whole "improvement" part is bullshit too. You shouldn't even think about improving; if it's not in your nature to live then just accept your plebeian fate, death. Like, all the ubermenschen meme spawned are the biggest degeneracies; literally revolt of the weak and ill against natural. It's focusing on all that's wrong to focus on, materialization of thought mediocrity and insecureness at best.
The only pseudoworthy thing self-improvement threads produce are wisdoms like
>Start with yourself and study res sacrosanctae extra commercium hominum. That's always good thing and I would actually say start with plays and before starting read Xenophons "Cyropaedia".
anyway and cringey closet faggots going full retard >>/l/7576.
>>3747 I was wrong what would have happened and >>3759 would be right in that their would be two posts sharing the same number. I had wrongly assumed their would have been a constraint against that even happening.
>The server processes requests one after the other anyway
If this is true then there would not encounter the race condition. This is true of many race conditions as they only become a problem when you try to run it in parallel. You can see hakase tried to handle this by doing transactions but she wrongly understood how to use them. She must have thought that it would block until her transaction started. In reality, it only will be applied to the database once the transaction finishes. In the code these transactions should be done in a single query rather than using separate queries for beginning and ending a transaction.
>>3741 There is actually 2 because I have a distain for porn but that's mainly for religious reasons and as such as long as it isn't the majority of the board then I don't really care i'll simply avoid it.
>>3679 What about some grey goo/self replicating nanobot theme in referring to the board name? Propably would need some drawfags to get that going though.
Kay, I'll post my opinion. Didn't actually read the entire thread.
>the reinstatement of /pol/
Yes
>to keep or to delete /t/
I think keep it but as what the name implies. A place do dump shit thread without outright deleting them.
>merging the less active boards back into /l/
Yes. This place doesn't have the userbase to substain that many boards and the Overboard already does a similar thing for the same reason.
>"merging" /l/ and /t/ back into /b/
No, see above
>banning pronography across all boards
No. It works just fine as it is. None of the boards are explicitly for porn and it's not being spammed around. Singular threads like the loli thread are perfectly fine.
>>3794 I don't watch anime so this "feature" flew right over my head. I just tried to make some constructive suggestion since the admin seems to toy with the idea of changing the logo and more. However I don't have a problem with weeb stuff. For all I care, leave everything like it is.
An oekaki board, or just a general art board to encompass all mediums, non js of course, just for uploading original art.
Rename /g/, /tech/? I dunno.. maybe not.
>>4400 Make a thread on /l/ for it, and test the waters. Making a board for something wouldn't magically create discussion for it after all. And I don't think /g/ should be renamed to something longer, honestly if /pol/ and /meta/ weren't around since the start of the site I'd have made them shorter too.
So you want me to suggest a board, only to...tell me to go ask if other people want..the board? Is moderating this inactive wasteland so hard? Are the NEETbucks and tendies drying up? I don't understand.
>>4521 >you want me to suggest a board
For all board requests I've said the same thing. I'm not looking to add any more new boards, so no, I'm not looking for board suggestions at the moment. Feel free to suggest anything else though.
Boards with 0 PPD for 3 months should merge into /cemetery/, there users interested in certain topics would unite to revive a board by creating threads related to it. New boards could born there. /cemetery/ could be /b/ instead of a new board, but /b/ is kinda of chaotic for this.
I would start a STEM general to gather users for a /sci/ board, also a porn general for a porn dedicated board. >>3704 Could start /philosophy/ and /leben/ generals. I personally like the idea of evolving /pol/ into /philosophy/, it would be a step forward against retardation and to turning NanoChan into a more comfy place resembling the anime (Nichijou).
With these implementations I expect the board community being more fluid.
>>4528 This place has very few users so creating cuckchan-like boards for every subject is counterproductive. We can of course try, I guess it's not hard to implement. If that's the case, I want /noporn/. I was skeptical of splitting /b/ and it worked well.
>Boards with 0 PPD for 3 months should merge into /cemetery/
This will never happen, 0 PPD for 3 months? People will be creating one thread to keep it alive.
>also a porn general for a porn dedicated board
I agree with this. If you want degeneracy then at least filter it out from overboard like /b/ does.
>it would be a step forward against retardation
? How would it stop retardation?
>turning NanoChan into a more comfy place resembling the anime
Just create /degeneracy/ for porn and you'll have place resembling anime since 99,999% of all anime is pornographic in nature.
>>4530 >This will never happen, 0 PPD for 3 months? People will be creating one thread to keep it alive.
Those threads can be round to 0, it doesn't need to be exactly what appears on stats, it also doesn't need to be 3 months, just a period to make sure it's not relevant anymore.
>If you want degeneracy then at least filter it out from overboard like /b/ does.
Perfect.
>? How would it stop retardation?
/pol/ is a IB destroyer, 8chan users are slowing running away from there and NanoChan is an good alternative for TOR posters, we should nuke /pol/ before it happens, poltardation won't fit on /philosophy/. The problem is if they gather in /cemetery/ to promote /pol/ threads, this would force the return of /pol/, but just by removing /pol/ now we can make EndChan and SpaceChan look like a better alternative for poltards.
>>4532 >let's create boards having no purpose or rename dead boards
Boards would be created if the relevance of a topic increase. Dead boards would merge into one. The quantity of boards will actually decrease in the beginning.
>porn /b/, sci /g/ or /l/, philosophy and leben /l/ or /pol/
That's how it works for now, and it's fine. My suggestions have the intent to keep this place safe and fair for the users, I see many people wanting dedicated boards (including me), but they might be irrelevant and born already dead, to avoid these users could create generals, the thread speed shows the relevance of a topic. To make easier to analyse, gather these generals into a new board (or /b/), dead boards would merge to that board to represent it's relevance in the past.
>>4258 >>4536 You can already make a science general on /l/ and porn or hentai general on /b/ no need for complications.
>about cemetery
Personally i think that boards should be kept forever and not deleted or removed with time, threads already have a limited lifetime, so i disagree on the whole cemetery idea.
>>4536 Deleting /pol/ wont remove its users, sorry to say, but Nanochan already has stage 3 leukemia. /pol/ needs their own shitposting tor IB to contain it from Nano.
And we need to remove Nanochan links, we're already full spaceniggers, you can crash on the moon.
>>4548 >Deleting /pol/ wont remove its users
Keeping /pol/ won't remove its users either, genius.
>/pol/ needs their own shitposting tor IB
/pol/ needs a gas chamber.
Polwiggers of all shapes and sizes must be exterminated.
>>4763 >Keeping /pol/ won't remove its users either, genius.
But will serve as a contention zone, quarantine. If you remove pol, they will spread to other boards. That's the issue in the table here, 'genius'.
>>4766 >blah blah
Just delete them when they show up. Believe me, they will get the message and fuck off. Your defeatist attitude is very problematic(TM).
There must be an eternal war against polwiggers of all shapes and sizes.
>>4767 >Believe me
Heh. You're the same as them asukafag. I consider you a /pol/.
How did you reacted when the admin stopped giving you the right to post with avatar? Not very well, huh? You got so enraged to the point of creating a spam script.
That's exactly what they will do. But instead of a pathetic script like yours they will be persistent even through captchas.
Pic related.
We could also pull some psyops: let /pol/ exactly as it is. But don't allow new posts/threads. Just purposefully put a bug inside the board to make new posts redirect to 404 page. Most retards will just think this imageboard is shit and broken, and will forget about it.
>>4768 >the topic to not go away after a reload
Topic? If you're talking about the error page, just go back a page and refresh (don't use [update] in this case), and your post will still be preserved.
>>4770 >You're the same as them asukafag
I am asukafag you niggling idiot.
>We could also pull some psyops: let /pol/ exactly as it is. But don't allow new posts/threads. Just purposefully put a bug inside the board to make new posts redirect to 404 page. Most retards will just think this imageboard is shit and broken, and will forget about it.
Yes, this would also work because cumskins are retarded. But I don't see a reason to not just NUKE the whole thing, purge all the cancer out of this board in one single swoop.
>A treaty could also work
White people are not reliable and they will not honor the treaty. It's a bad idea; drop it.
>But I don't see a reason
Read the fucking post again.
>White people are not reliable
Good point. Hapas are not reliable too, btw. This is the human condition, unreliability.
>>4776 >Read the fucking post again.
I'm not going to read it. I guess you are going to say "BUT BUT BUT BUT THEY JUST SPREAD TO OTHER BOARD SO NO ME DELET POL!!!"
This sort of cucked wigger mentality is gay and retarded. Just delete it, then delete anyone who poses a problem. It worked with Hapase in charge and it will work with anyone in charge if they can stop being a disgusting cumskin for 5 seconds.
>I'm not reliable, so everyone else is not reliable
I can see your projection reflecting off the dark side of the moon.
1. There is a typo on the stats page. It says PPD when it should be PPW.
2. When <hr> has position: relative for css, it goes over the reply box as seen in the picture.
>>4922 >>4923 Actually I just cleared my cache and the <hr> thing is actually real.
CUMSKINFAGMIN BROKE SOMETHING LOLOLOLOLOLOL
The only thing white people can do is take things that hapas make and then fuck it up because they think they can do better. EPIC FAIL
>>4922 It's supposed to be ppd, since it's calculating ppw divided by 7, which makes it ppd over 7 days. And yeah sorry about that other bug, I'm still trying to figure out css stacking works with the least amount of hacks
>>4928 >css stacking
Just set post form z-index higher: https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/CSS/z-index css stacking is applied to elements with a position different by static this is why if br position is set to relative it becomes part of the stack in unpredictable ways.
>>4929 That's what I'm currently doing, except I'll have to do this for all future elements too. Is there a way to modify the z-index while leaving its position intact?
>>4931 If you mean if there is a way to apply z-index and at the same time leaving position to static, no there is no way i'aware of, but you can set position to relative and it will be pretty much same as static as long as you don't move it.
>I'll have to do this for all future elements too
I thin you just need to change the postform and navbar right? Since postform and navbar are already on position fixed you can already change z-index of them.
>>4932 Good to know, guess I'll leave it be then.
And I meant for all future floating or unusually-styled elements, I suppose. Point is I might run into more issues later on. Not like I have a good track record avoiding shitty little bugs like this in the first place
>>5017 >why in source.lua under nano2html is the gsub function called twice for greentext and pinktext
No idea, it's been around since the second version of hakase's source so presumably it's a hackfix for some weird bug.
Make it so we can actually copy/paste post IDs
Right now it looks like this bullshit:
Nanonymous 2019-05-31 05:51:19 No.3512 [D] >>3631
A fucking [D] button we can't even press
If it was some actual proper shit like:
Nanonymous 2019-05-31 05:51:19 No.3512
Then we could double click anywhere to the right of "3512" to select it then ctrl+c, instead of aiming the mouse in some tiny ass spot
Please fix log messages regarding "Unlink File" (may also apply to "Delete File"):
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Unlinked file 0feb64cdc7c8bac9c9d486d37209620b90f6457e5779e9caa4e44847706b1e88.png from post /b/2417 for reason: asuka
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In the message above, the post link is incorrect:
/b/2417 does not exist as /b/2417.html
/b/2417 exists as /b/2420.html#post2417
>>5767 It's the same old problem of cross-thread references, like if i link your post like this >>>/meta/5766 it doesn't work for the same reason.
Until cross-reference are fixed the way to fix those log links is by just making them plain text like other mod action.
>>5767 I've already noted this issue in my notes a while ago, but it's a low priority issue that I haven't gotten around to fixing yet
>>5770 >Why doesn't Asukafag just take over and fix all these problems? Sakamoto isn't doing jack shit and we still have all the same bugs as when hakase left.
I plan on passing the keys to endofunctor once I've kept all the promises I made.
Can you add alt text (a single character even) to thumbnails so I don't have to wait for them to load in the catalog before I can click on them? Not sure if it's a TBB-specific thing but it's just blank space otherwise. Alternatively, making some of the text clickable, like the "most recent post" text?
Thanks for your consideration.
>>5840 That's a pretty rare error that happened to me too at least once (during hakase's reign). Nothing got deleted it's just that the overboard craps out temporarily.
>>5841 It's probably just in the middle of regenerating. The way the code works is that io.output() is redirected to overboard.html or whatever thread/catalog it's on. Since overboard generation takes upwards of seconds to generate, chances of another user requesting the overboard mid-generation is pretty high, especially in the midst of a spam wave.
This can be fixed by not gradually io.writing to the file at all, instead writing to a table and writing the table to the file when generation is complete. The io.write bullshit is so ingrained into the code that it'd be tedious as hell to mess with it now, and I'd probably fuck something up along the way.
The other solution is to just make overboard generation itself faster by caching catalog items individually in a file or in the database.
>>5965 No you faggot, the best thing to do in your situation is to kill yourself and delete it all. However, if you really want to "salvage" some sort of functionality, the best way is to io.output("/tmp/some temporary file") and then io.rename() it afterwards, since the rename operation is atomic. But I wouldn't expect a wigger like you to understand these things.
Maybe just take me up on my offer and switch to picochan?
Also, what's with the name change? Did you get btfo with everyone calling you a suckermoot and fuckermoto?
Also, I had to solve the captcha 4 times to post. I'm not posting here again because your crapcha is harder than the jewgle captcha on 4chan, so you've pretty much succeeded if you want to get rid of me. farewell.
>>5966 I hate making tempfiles, but you're probably right. Writing into tables would also have the added benefit of generating two different overboards (one with all boards and the other with hidden boards hidden). This isn't a name change, just an old account so I can have two sessions on two devices.
>farewell
In hindsight, you were always pretty autistic with captchas, so much so that you even took my braille captcha suggestion seriously. If only I had known it was this easy to get rid of you.
>>5966 >kill yourself and delete it all
Damn he mad.
>everyone calling you a suckermoot and fuckermoto?
>everyone
Implying >1 person hue.
>farewell
You need affection and love. Hopefully when you return you'll be nice and friendly and less of a megadestructive Jew.
1. I'd like to suggest a placeholder "deleted file" graphic for when files are deleted from a post.
2. The post number should appear in the log and/or the audit.log.
Maybe these suggestions have drawbacks but I haven't thought them through.
My current problem is that when I remove a file from a pedo post, it becomes too "clean" because there's no hint that a file was deleted from it. Also there is missing info from both the log and audit when a file is removed but the post is left up.
>>5967 > Writing into tables would also have the added benefit of generating two different overboards (one with all boards and the other with hidden boards hidden)
Please do that, having two overboards would be an actual cool feature.
Other suggestion is to make audit.log into an actual html page, i spend lot of time reading audit.log lately and it's a pain.
>>5974 The alt text is rendered only if the image is unavailable, not when it's loading.
You ran into a limitation of HTML not of nanochan.
I propose to add a text link under the image.
Unfortunately I have acquired brain cancer from the godawful captchas. I understand they are necessary to defeat some scripting shitskin, but would it be possible to have something slightly more readable?
Maybe store a hash of deleted posts to stop people reposting them everyday on a cronjob.
Maybe there is some kind of fuzzy hashing that could also catch deleted posts with minor variations.
>>6762 >adspace
lmao
>>6769 The contents of ads are always different, even if the writing style and the method of spamming is mostly similar. It's basically the only kind of spam nanochan gets too, which leads me to believe it's being done by the same entity.
>fuzzy hashing
Would only create an arms race with the advertisers and gradually increase code complexity.
>>6773 Becuase he doesnt want us to get onto his dirty jewish tricks. Asukafag is running a dark web buisness empire and he is using nanochan as a platform to spread his products and advertizements around. He tries not to let us know that he is making the advertizements by not putting an asuka avtar on his posts.
Either way I'm really sure this is the work of asukafag. Either hes posting the adds himself, or he's paying someone to do it. I'm sure he is rolling in money from all the spamming he does, someone who has the abilities to spam as much as he does even breaking a captcha must be monetizing those skills for dark web financial conglomerates.
>>6774 Also I'm 90% sure based on the data analysis that Asukafag has connections with the Rothschilds and the satanic child eating pedokike (((elite))).
>>6775 He is a jewish CIA plant put here by moassad, because of /pol/. They want to (((shut down))) any questioning of the holohoax. the kikes are afriad of nanochan.
>>6776 Once nanochan throws off the suffocating cancer of Asukafag, we have the power to really unseat ZOG. Asukafag is their last line of defenses against the day of the rope. Our board is composed of many strong white nationalist men, independent of the Zog system, and jews are really afraid of that.
>>6771 >Agreed for the reason that the email address is always the same across all posts.
Nope, I have never seen an email reused between two separate waves of this kind of spam. I do think the writing style is similar, but that might just be from deep web sellers having their own dialect.
>>6772 That's my suspicion, especially since these ads never appeared during hakase's reign.
>>6774 Now you're pushing it
>>6779 The emails might not even exist. Either way, protonmail is exceedingly easy to make an account of, I make throwaways with it when a website blocks cock.li for registration.
>>6786 >especially since these ads never appeared during hakase's reign.
No, they did appear during hakase administration. But she deleted them fast, and didn't complain. That way, few people knew they were posted, except sometimes the people who posted them in the reports thread (like me).
Maybe you should follow the empress's example and shut your dirty bitch mouth.
>>6791 I've been on imageboards long enough to spot a sockpuppeter a mile away. Disregarding my gut sense and all the conjectures myself and others have made, your writing style when you still try to keep the pretense of professionalism (in the picochan readmes and your official posts in nanochang) is very similar to hakase's.
Learn to sage faggot, nobody cares about your shitty squabbles
>>6791 >But I'm not hapase, and hence
You always say "hapase" instead of "hakase". Does this one letter difference mean it's technically not a lie, in your mind?
How did all this quad posting get here I only clicked the button once. And how the FUCK did that spurious reference get there?
Suckermoot I think you seriously need to start rewriting your buggy code. Good luck with that :^)
>>6798 Fuck knows, probably some sort of race condition with the sql transactions I suspected and an anon mentioned back when the handover was just made. I really don't like fucking with sql too much though, and to be honest I'm not sure where the problem is myself.
>>6799 >probably some sort of race condition
>I don't like... sql
>I'm not sure where the problem is
the answer is PICOCHAN
I made a fix for your long-standing URL processing bug btw. Not sure if you bothered to integrate that yet, but knowing your wigger laziness I'm guessing not.
>>6800 I made the url fix long before I saw your published code, faggot. I've been meaning to do that ever since your dumbass decided that fixing the mega.nz example I gave was (# and !) was enough, and just forgot about it until someone raised the issue.
>>6802 >no evidence
Check the url thread in /meta/, retard. Thought you'd be smarter than this
>A failure to publish supposedly implemented code
It's right there in source dot fucking lua. What the hell did you mean by this?
>You even admitted that you don't even know what's going on.
I do know what's going on with the sql, I just don't want to touch it. I have no experience in making atomic sqlite transactions myself so I'm not willing to chance breaking the entire site just for an obscure bug.
>uncreative" and "soulless
That's a chinese stereotype, not a hapa one. Not sure why you're putting words in my mouth either.
>fix these problems by installing my code
>inb4 your code has backdoors
I'd work on the migration if I actually had the script for it, the one you promised to make weeks ago.
>haven't redirected the original nanochan-C/X addresses yet
I'd have done it (though with a landing page instead of a direct link) if you hadn't decided to start shitting up the non /b/ boards anyway.
>>6803 Hmm, no idea why it's not grabbing the second to last bracket in the third link. I'll try to fix it later when I get access to the server's shell.
>>6802 >Can you explain to me clearly why you don't switch to Picochan?
I'm not sakamoto but maybe it has to do with the creator of picochan being a big meanie who would probably use the migration to picochan as leverage?
>>6805 >Check the url thread in /meta/, retard. Thought you'd be smarter than this
I already looked and even posted in that thread. If someone deleted my post and fucked up the post count, that's on you.
>It's right there in source dot fucking lua. What the hell did you mean by this?
Well, it doesn't work as >>6803 demonstrates.
>I do know what's going on with the sql, I just don't want to touch it. I have no experience in making atomic sqlite transactions myself so I'm not willing to chance breaking the entire site just for an obscure bug.
It's easy for you you stupid little nigger faggot. I already fixed ALL those problems in my picochan.sql
>I'd work on the migration if I actually had the script for it, the one you promised to make weeks ago.
And you took down the media.tgz and refused to put it back up. I can't test my script if I don't have all the required files to make thumbnails and sha512 hashes of.
Anyway, as I said, the deal is off because you didn't follow your end. You'd also probably make bunch of retarded modifications to picochan and then blame the resultant bugs on me anyway.
>I'd have done it (though with a landing page instead of a direct link) if you hadn't decided to start shitting up the non /b/ boards anyway.
I didn't start posting elsewhere until endoretard started unlinking my files from posts in /b/, which happened quite early on.
>>6806 It also isn't grabbing the last bracket of the second link properly. FAIL.
>>6810 >What kind of leverage do I gain
I believe you would use the fact that picochan code is used to stir up more shit and cause more drama, attacking sakamoto etc.
>>6811 What kind of fucking drama can I stir up? Objectively, suckermoot is doing the worst possible action by continuing to use this bloated, featureless, buggy pile of rotting garbage. If he's too STOOPID to write his own software, it's not a bad thing to use someone else's superior code. Yeah, he's stupid, but at least he wouldn't be pants on head sub-saharan 50 IQ tier retarded.
>>6812 >What kind of fucking drama can I stir up?
I was thinking something like
<hurr sakamoto can't code at all he's so stupid he had to use my own code and therefore I am much more qualified than him to be nanochan admin durr
But I suppose you could promise not to do it, will you lol?
>>6813 I don't need to promise not to do it. I am already saying that he's stupid for not either fixing his own code or installing new code.
Anyway, the real answer to the question is that he is too stupid to install the software, even though detailed installation instructions are available. >>6805
>>6808 >If someone deleted my post and fucked up the post count, that's on you.
Logic dictates that you'd at least check the page or the source before making an ass of yourself.
>I already fixed ALL those problems in my picochan.sql
Sure.
>And you took down the media.tgz and refused to put it back up.
I gave you a list of the files on the server in that same thread, which you said was all you needed, and I shouldn't have had to tar all the files myself. If you only needed the files for testing the database, you could've just grabbed the list of files from the database itself.
>the deal is off because you didn't follow your end.
Pretty sure I mentioned something along the lines of script first, site links second. And if I didn't, you decided on a whim that the deal was off and went off shitting up the site on your own, THEN claimed that it wasn't actually your posts in a pathetic attempt to save face.
>It also isn't grabbing the last bracket of the second link properly
I just didn't want to resort to using a function for the gsub replaces, honestly. As you might have gathered I've been trying not to backport features from picochan in anticipation of eventually migrating to it, instead focusing on other features to eventually port to a fork of picochan. Now my current plan is to fix up captchas, maybe implement some of the low-hanging fruit from picochan (maybe not, not too keen on breaking CSP for features like your image expansion), and hand over the keys to endofunctor.
>I didn't start posting elsewhere until endoretard started unlinking my files from posts in /b/
As I recall you were already posting on boards outside of /b/ as not-asukafag or without any images when the unlinks happened. Could be wrong though.
>>6813 I've only looked at the code for a few hours in total and I've already made quite a long list of potential bugs and missing features, and I'm not just talking about the ones I added myself. If I'm really going to be serious about the migration there's still a lot that needs to be done before picochan achieves full feature parity. The moderator page entry for a page containing a single textbox for mass-deleting posts matching a simple LIKE %% statement without any sort of visual confirmation to the moderator is hilarious by the way.
>>6815 Sorry about making you put up the test instance for nothing endo, looks like asukafag isn't making the migration script so no point for public testing at this moment. I've been messing around with picochan locally (stress testing, mostly), but haven't made any actual changes to the code. You could take down the servers for now if you like.
>>6819 >The moderator page entry for a page containing a single textbox for mass-deleting posts matching a simple LIKE %% statement without any sort of visual confirmation to the moderator is hilarious by the way.
Hence why the feature is only available to administrators. You have to be VERY careful when using it, and only use long patterns unlikely to be used elsewhere. I haven't actually used it once in an actual spam wave, only for testing purposes. It is probably a good idea to backup the database before using it actually.
Yes it would be ideal to have it give a list of posts deleted before deleting, and I'll probably add this feature at some point, which will probably coincide with adding a post search feature since those two functions are the same.
>I just didn't want to resort to using a function for the gsub replaces
That's what you have to do. It's absolutely MANDATORY if you want to fix cross-board, inter-thread and intra-thread references, unless you use a resolution system like hapase used to have (but deleted for some reason). I think it was removed because of the static generation. Anyway now you can't fix that problem without using functions. Lmao bet you didn't even know you could use a function for gsub.
>I've already made quite a long list of potential bugs and missing features
What bugs are there?
I seriously doubt there are any missing features. All the features that are present in nanochan and not in picochan are pretty useless.
>muh audit log
Clearly doesn't stop malicious mods and admins from deleting posts which don't break the rules.
>muh super advanced captcha
Useless, because there is no software that can break it as far as I know. Easy to make it harder from within lua, without resorting to le ebin C program.
>muh tvols
Fucking useless. If you want to resort to human wave techniques, of just using MOAR MODERATURZ then you are reddit tier. Picochan's multidelete feature is highly powerful and basically multiplies your moderation capability by 10, and it's safe to use unlike the pattern-delete feature (hence why it's available to board owners).
>You could've just grabbed a list of files from the database
No. I have to have SHA-512 hashes, not SHA-256. In order to get those I need the source files, or I need you to calculate them and send them to me. I already explained elsewhere why I used SHA-512 instead of SHA-256: it's because sha512 is much faster, and has the side bonus of moar collision resistance (but it isn't that important for this application). SHA-512 is also just as widely available as SHA-256, so there are no downsides either.
>>6819 >>6820 also
>I've already made quite a long list of potential bugs and missing features
<implying nanochan has no bugs and missing features
t0p k3k
where's your image expansion, why do i need a captcha to see anything, why is your formatting still fucked up, why are you still using static generation, why are you still using an inferior database schema, why is your program so fucking slow, why are your moderators so gay, etc.
>>6820 >first
It doesn't matter if you're careful, you need to provide some form of visual feedback for the moderators so they don't have to keep track of every single post made on the site. I've been making database backups every 30 minutes, pruning any non-bihourly backups every day, so no problems for me here.
>It's absolutely MANDATORY if you want to fix ...
Yup.
>a resolution system like hapase used to have (but deleted for some reason)
No idea how you knew about any of that, but I believe you hakase.
>Clearly doesn't stop malicious mods and admins from deleting posts which don't break the rules.
If anyone other than you actually cared about muh censorship they'd raise the issue themselves instead of telling you to fuck off.
>Easy to make it harder from within lua, without resorting to le ebin C program.
Probably, but I wasn't the one who wrote that.
>Picochan's multidelete feature is highly powerful and basically multiplies your moderation capability by 10, and it's safe to use unlike the pattern-delete feature (hence why it's available to board owners).
This is the intended workflow of my implementation of multi-delete:
1. fill in the filters, which would have the ability to filter by board(s), thread(s), LIKE statements for emails/names/subjects/contents, post age (in seconds or date, before/after) and more
2. apply the filters and check the results, resize the post count as necessary using max posts shown, then select check all posts
3. manually deselect any innocent posts that got caught in the mix, set the range action, and press submit
4. review the selected posts once again in the confirmation page, enter the reason, and click submit
There. Much better than your simple LIKE filter. Endofunctor also mentioned something along the lines of an automated regex/luapattern post filter, which should be good enough to thwart automated spam attempts until the script writer comes back to fix it, but I don't think I'll be adding that feature myself.
>I need the source files
Look, nigger. You get the FILE NAMES from the database (select File from Posts where File != or even select Name from File), which you then COMBINE with the onion address, and make the wget request. Then, you make a script to get the sha512 hashes of the file you downloaded and together with the original filename modify the database accordingly. If this still sounds impossible to you, then'' I'll make the archive you need.
>>6821 >image expansion
As said I'm not looking to backport features at the moment, and the way you did it made picochan very vulnerable to XSS attacks. Even more so than the relatively harmless connect-src: self change I made. Ideas that come to mind include serving up a per-page custom css using /pico. That still doesn't solve the data:// shit, but that's nitpicking at this point. An example of why its insecure is if someone manages to inject html into your site (like with the global announcement exploit in nanochan) they could run arbitrary css code that makes url() requests to other sites or something else (whereas my connect-src change won't affect much of anything because script-src is still blocked)
>captcha to see anything
Literally only the mod page, which you don't need access to anyway, and only when you spam the site.
>formatting still fucked up
Some 1 in 100 case of someone posting code with double equals is not worth the drawbacks of
I won't bother with the rest.
>>6825 Not worth the drawbacks of making formatting more confusing to work with. Though I don't really have the right to say that since I just fucked up the formatting in my last post. If it was up to me I would've never added pigchan-style formatting in the first place. Spoilers and greentext are all you need.
>>6825 >No idea how you knew about any of that, but I believe you hakase.
Here we go again.
Before when you clicked on a cross board link, it would send you to an intermediary page under /nano which would then redirect you to the right post.
>This is the intended workflow of my implementation of multi-delete:
And is it even working yet? I don't believe you have it working, and I think it'll be considerably harder than what you're thinking. For example, how do you change whether the filters are applied in an exclusive or non-exclusive way, and how will you change the order that they are applied in? The answer is that you can't without adding another 1000 lines of code to your shitty software. Composing a SQL statement that combines all those factors together is also complex, though not too difficult.
>Endofunctor also mentioned something along the lines of an automated regex/luapattern post filter
Because he doesn't know shit. His implementation would mean you have to select all posts from the database in order to run the lua pattern on it, since SQLite doesn't support Lua patterns. Again, I'm sure there is a way to do this through registering SQL functions and whatnot, but it will be VERY fucking slow.
>Look, nigger. You get the FILE NAMES from the database (select File from Posts where File != or even select Name from File), which you then COMBINE with the onion address, and make the wget request. Then, you make a script to get the sha512 hashes of the file you downloaded and together with the original filename modify the database accordingly. If this still sounds impossible to you, then I'll make the archive you need.
I'm not doing that. It will take a billion years to download. Also I already said the deal was off; you are making it harder than it needs to be and it is a pain in the ass.
>serving up a per-page custom css using /pico
I was thinking of this yesterday too. Reason being that yes, as you mentioned the CSP could be tightened down. Also, using lots of inline <style> elements slows down the browser's page rendering, making pages unusable for extremely (>1000) high numbers of images per thread.
>That still doesn't solve the data:// shit
That's not a security problem at all because it only allows displaying inline images, which are harmless.
>Literally only the mod page, which you don't need access to anyway, and only when you spam the site.
And the stats and recent page. This increases complexity and pisses off users. Why don't you just, you know, FUCKING MAKE YOUR PROGRAM FASTER'' so you don't need any of that? Picochan will always be architecturally better than nanochan but you could probably get the performance on par and remove your hacky algorithms.
>Some 1 in 100 case of someone posting code with double equals is not worth the drawbacks of
A 1 in 100 case is a lot, you know. Anyway it's not uncommon to see people posting code here, on the /g/ board for example. People don't do that here because the formatting shits everything up.
>making formatting more confusing to work with
Formatting is not confusing to work with. You're just a 28 year old confooser. (Lol)
>Spoilers and greentext are all you need.
If you really believed that you would remove all other formatting features from your source code. Go on, do it and see what happens.
>I won't bother with the rest.
Because you cannot adequately defend your shitty decisions, or lack thereof.
>>6827 >fucked up formatting from copying your fucked up formatting
This would not happen in PICOCHAN. This is why my formatting engine is better than yours.
>b-but muh 1 in 100 chance!!!
It's not only useful when writing code. Give me one fucking example of someone intentionally trying to use formatting which crosses newline boundaries, which was not also a post made for the purposes of testing or exploring the formatting engine. Go ahead.
>>6830 >Give me one fucking example of someone intentionally trying to use formatting which crosses newline boundaries
... and on the off chance that you do, it'll be way way way less than people who accidentally fuck up the formatting.
>>6827 >And is it even working yet?
Once the extra filters are added, probably.
filters are the last step in the process, and
>A 1 in 100 case is a lot, you know. Anyway it's not uncommon to see people posting code here, on the /g/ board for example. People don't do that here because the formatting shits everything up.
Fine, you've convinced me. I'll try to make formatting work like they do in picochan. (the code block-friendly fix, not the single line formatting) though I'm still kind of busy right now.
>If you really believed that you would remove all other formatting features from your source code. Go on, do it and see what happens.
I'd do that if there were significant interest in it. If others are largely in support of removing 8ch formatting I'll do it.
>Because he doesn't know shit.
That wasn't what he said verbatim. That's just my idea to the issue he raised.
>you have to select all posts from the database in order to run the lua pattern on it
No, you run it on the post during the post.create routine.
>It will take a billion years to download
Not really, it took me about a day and a half to mirror six gigabytes of data from your servers. You can do it asukafag, I believe in you. If you hate bash I can post my mirroring script on here.
Features, or any changes you would like to see on nanochan. This thread will be used for discussion of any controversial suggestions, or to raise some of your own. Namely,
- the reinstatement of /pol/
- to keep or to delete /t/
- merging the less active boards back into /l/
- "merging" /l/ and /t/ back into /b/
- banning pronography across all boards
Or just to request some features for nanochan.