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Chat platforms Nanonymous No.4865 [D][U][F][S][L][A][C]
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I've tried out a deluge of chat apps and always one thing or another that makes them trash or hard to us. Take retroshare for instance with it's dogshit UI and unusable feature bloat, or things like qtox or xmpp clients that can't create groups without spazing out with their retardation. Is there anything worth investing in getting?

Nanonymous No.4867 [D] >>4868 >>4870

The problem is that normies can't used those software. So you're limited to very few people that can actually find it useful over, for example, facebook messager or whatsapp.

But, if you ignore that, I think OMEMO over Tor is arguably very secure. Also, Briar Project.

Nanonymous No.4868 [D]

>>4867 Either they can't use them or they find no reason to switch or think it's suspicious that anyone would want to have a secure platform. Never heard of the briar project until now, so I will give it a try, I hope it's capable of doing group chats.

Nanonymous No.4870 [D][U][F] >>4871
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>>4867
Wait I need to meet people IRL to connect to them on the briar project? Anon..... I don't have any friends IRL. In terms of protecting actors against states, this is a terrible idea because they have to meet up somewhere just to get this, might as well exchange what ever information they were going to exchange on the app, to the guy they are meeting with.
>just take a picture of the QRcode
Most people only have one camera and that is their phone, unless you take a screenshot, and send it to your friend so they can open it on their computer but then you've relied on other infrastructure. Which is not bad in of itself but overly complicate the process and leading most people to using a medium that they are trying to abandon like discord, just so they can add friends to their super secreke discussion app.

Nanonymous No.4871 [D]

>>4870
I'm not sure you need to meet IRL.
You probably can just share your pubkey fingerprint, just like in Tox. Read the documentation.
Briar is nice because of two reasons: less metadata and meshnet. This might be useful in cases where government shutsdown internet infrastructure, just like some did in the middle east while people were protesting.
Other than that, Briar is not very special and don't use the secure double ratchet algorithm.

off-topic about the meshnet: Just wanted people to re-implement Netsukuku ideas again, with modern/secure protocols and crypto.
Probably will never happen, but would be nice to have meshnet efforts, like Freifunk.

Nanonymous No.5044 [D]

XMPP is fine

Nanonymous No.5056 [D][U][F]
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>qtox or xmpp clients that can't create groups without spazing out with their retardation
qTox is also so retarded that you can be on multiple calls at the same time, so you can call all your friends to a call at the same time while they call each other to simulate group chat. It always works fine.
The problem is that you consume way more internet, but that's part of p2p if you want to group chat.
Aside from that, it's pretty good.
As a Linux user, Tox is my VOIP of choice.
Discord's port is sucha piece of shit that the mic doesn't work since ever and there's no fix anywhere. Steam voice chat servers all have ~1500 ms or some shit too.