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Do you need a gun in the US? Nanonymous No.12476 [D][U][F][S][L][A][C] >>12478 >>12481 >>12491 >>12494
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>There are about 30,000 gun related deaths per year by firearms, this number is not disputed.
>U.S. population 328 million as of January 2018.
>Do the math: 0.00915% of the population dies from gun related actions each year.
>Statistically speaking, this is insignificant. It's not even a rounding error.
>What is not insignificant, however, is a breakdown of those 30,000 deaths:

> 22,938 (76%) are by suicide which can't be prevented by gun laws

> 987 (3%) are by law enforcement, thus not relevant to Gun Control discussion.

> 489 (2%) are accidental

>So no, "gun violence" isn't 30,000 annually, but rather 5,577... 0.0017% of the population.
https://archive.fo/rqc7u

So gun violence (in terms of death) is pretty low. So why do you need a gun for self defense then if being killed in a gun related incident is so low?
Just playing devil's advocate.

Nanonymous No.12477 [D] >>12511

I'm not sure this data is right. But, even if it is, these accounts only for USA population.
In my country guns are not allowed, but the level of violence is much bigger than other countries. So:
>So why do you need a gun for self defense
Exactly for that, self defense. Some people, even if you don't want to fight, they won't listen to your arguments. Instincts make people blind. At some point, only violence can solve the problem and between me or some irrational monkey, I prefer me.

Nanonymous No.12478 [D]

>>12476
>why do you lock your doors if no one broke in in the last 10 years
:^)

Nanonymous No.12481 [D]

>>12476
How do you look at gun violence numbers alone and come to the conclusion that guns aren't needed? There's many other forms of violence that might require a gun to get out of unharmed, like getting ganged up on by niggers or just some insane druggie with a machete.

Nanonymous No.12483 [D][U][F]
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>Muh gun violence and stuff
That's niggers killing each other.

Nanonymous No.12487 [D][U][F]
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Responsible civilian firearm ownership prevents more crimes than just gun homicide. You still need a firearm to protect yourself against home invaders, for example.

Also, it's more difficult for tyrants to subdue rebellion from armed civilians than unarmed ones.

Nanonymous No.12491 [D]

>>12476
>gun violence is low
>therefore you don't need a gun to defend yourself
This argument is faulty because you may need a gun to defend yourself from non-gun violence.
Also, if you live in one of the areas where the violence is concentrated (niggerville,) you'll need to defend yourself.

Nanonymous No.12494 [D]

>>12476
>So no, "gun violence" isn't 30,000 annually, but rather 5,577... 0.0017% of the population.

And a wast majority of those gun related murders are committed by nonwhites. If America was a white European country the murders would be below 2000

Nanonymous No.12497 [D]

>>13476
You need to distinguish which counties have this problem, which are blue nigger counties. You still might need a gun even if you avoid them. It just comes down to preparation.

Nanonymous No.12511 [D]

>>12477
>why do you lock your doors if no one broke in in the last 10 years

Well this isn't good analogy since most doors (and properties) come with a lock of some sort.
A better comparison would be if since no one broke in your house in 10 years you decide not to get a better lock. Most house locks are actually inadequate and can be easily picked. You opting in not purchasing a better lock is you admitting you don't think your lock will be picked and your house broke in.

You not opting to get burglar bars is the same thing.

2% gunhappy No.12536 [D]

Because I don't care to be a part of that 2%. It is to have a gun and not need it then to need one and not have one. Also I live in bfe so hunting and fishing are my main source of meat, plants don't do well in the winter.