Authored by J.G.Martinez D. via Daisy Luther's Organic Prepper blog,
The intention of this article will be to describe how the prices went wild, and what you could expect in a hyperinflation scenario. Perhaps softer, or perhaps worse, that is not possible to know for an amateur like me, not being an economist. But something similar to this is what could be expected in the real world, not in some hypothetical scenario of the theoretical economy..
For some reason that I will try to elucidate afterward, the salaries stopped being useful for buying anything other than food. The prices I will publish in our national currency, the Bolivar already were rounded by taking 3 zeroes by Uncle Hugo´s command. A few days ago, this was done…again, now by command of the bus driver, in an attempt to make the hyperinflation look less threatening. Go figure.
One Bolivar is worth 0.000020 USD. The minimum wage is $5.21 or 1.800.000 Bs for a month. Now, how could we expect someone to live under these conditions? It is entirely unexplainable to me that this has not generated massive riots…yet.
Here are the hyperinflation costs of basic items in Venezuela
Remember, many people are paid only 1.800.000 Bs for a month:
- Vegetable oil 900ml. Bottle: 748.367 Bs
- Cereal mixture for milkshakes: 900Grs can: 1.057.057 Bs
- Wheat flour, 1 kg: 398.750 Bs
- Cheese, 1 kg: 2.160.950 Bs (yes, TWO MILLION)
- Chicken and Bacon: 2.299.500 Bs
- 395Grs Condensed milk w/sugar: 566.144 Bs
- Oatmeal 400 Grs: 550.000 Bs
- 1 kg. Margarine: 747.000 Bs
- 1Kg Chocolate mixture for milkshakes: 2.060.000 Bs
- Cheese (melted-for spreading) 300 Grs: 1.097.230 Bs
- Black Olives 235Grs: 1.677.120 Bs
- Ladies deodorant: 890.000 Bs
- Insecticide 1 can: 900.000 Bs
- Mayonnaise 910 Grs.: 955.000 Bs
- 2 toilet paper rolls: 399.974 Bs
- 1 Kg. avocados: 500.000 Bs
- 30 Eggs: 650.000 Bs.
- Dog food, dry, bulk 20Kg: 6.060.000 Bs
- Dishwashing soap, cream 500 Grs: 440.000 Bs
- 2 door fridge: 627.900.000 Bs (yes, six hundred MILLION)
- 400ML. Shampoo: 2.052.050 Bs (2 million)
- 4 small ice cream cups: 2.072.691 Bs
- Rice 500 Grs: 115.277 Bs
- TV 65 inches: 329.999.990 Bs
- 2Lt soda: 298.000 Bs
- Lemon Juice, 500ml bottle: 731.881 Bs
- Light bulb, power saving: 935.000 Bs
- Shoes: 5.986.825 Bs
- Catfish: 465.300 Bs
- Sweet corn 400Grs: 466.480 Bs
- Ground meat: 1.150.000 Bs.
- Steak: 1.300.000 Bs (depending on the region, usually cheaper in cattle-producing states)
- Pork chops: over 1.000.000 Bs
- Corn flour, 1 kg: 265.000 Bs.
- Dollar price: 350.000 Bs / 1 USD
How people are reacting
One of the most amazing things I have seen is that people are in total denial, and they refuse to accept that the money is not worth even the paper it is printed on. They won’t innovate changing to cryptos easily, nor will they accept silver coins, much less other precious metals. They won’t barter, they won’t trade their labor time (I mean major cities, in my small town things are a little different). We had a good supply of silver coins in the 60s, but that changed.
They talk and talk, complaining about the government, but they just don’t do anything. I have seen some small plots in our subdivision with tomatoes plants and other vegetables, but that is just a salad for one lunch. And the people passing by will take whatever is within their hand’s reach.
The electronic money has been devaluated much more than cash. Something with a price in cash, if you try to pay with debit card or money transfer via internet the price will be 2 or 3 times the cash price. Illegal? Yes, it is. But there is no way to control it.
The main problem arises because it is the military taking over the supply chain. They have an agreement with the gangs, and they deviate the production of the plants that are under military control, to the street sales. The gangs are armed, and they protect the retail sellers from thieves and turmoil. This is in the most populated cities, where the money is, and therefore the products don’t make it so often up to the smaller towns.
The black market offers of tires, food, car spares, engine oil, and all kind of medicines and goods are rampant, and the social networks are full of resellers. You may expect a morality crisis, in parallel with this economical crisis. I asked a granny how much was charging for some hand towels she had for sale, and I did not have enough money in my pocket to buy even one towel…I apologized but saw she was upset. It was a sad, awkward moment indeed.
Senior citizens are taking a beating. Their pension is not enough for one week worth of food. Jeez, maybe once this is published it will be not enough even for a couple of days…the clowns that tried to sell the “petro” just realized that this snake oil did not work. The calculated inflation is 13.000%. Without money from the IMF, having paid the debt, and kicked them out of the country…the disaster arrived anyway. The government just does not want to do what they have to do. There are too many military personnel involved in the black market and an uprising is more than possible that will launch the gangs in power off to the ground if some of them are disturbed.
How people survive
To find a medium of exchange, and at the same time capable of holding its value until you actually need to exchange it is not easy. Cigarettes, chocolates, all kind of commodities have been used, and there is a small but growing trade with this stuff. Not at the dimensions one would imagine, but generally speaking, the financial culture in our society is almost unknown. There is no such thing as a stock exchange (but there was one, in the past), and whatever other things that smell like the free market, the gov carefully removed. People clamor for “price control” without even realizing that it is not the price but the lack of production what is starving them.
I have known some people that even received satoshis as a medium of payment for food or car parts. However, as the BTC has been going down these last weeks and the amount of satoshis to receive is calculated based on the USD price, this trading has been slowing down.
As I have mentioned, the country is already collapsed. Those self-employed that could adjust their fees for their service from one day to another, and that could receive, say, a bag of sugar for their valuable services are those who are not overly stressed to leave the country. This is one of the most important lessons, I think. Someone with manual, valuable skills, that could provide basic goods or services, will be able to survive. They will just adjust their prices…and if the customer can´t pay, then most likely they will trade in their service for something to barter. People with low maintenance trucks, that have received meat as payment in a farm for transporting a load of hay (many farmers have to buy hay down here in the dry season because they don´t have the machines to compact it and there is no rain for the pastures to grow). They exchange the remaining meat for cheese, poultry, and fish. Or the electrician like my dad got paid with half a pork for one day of work at his friend´s farm rewiring an old corn mill. He took the excess as a gift to one of my cousins, and got back 6 kgs of pasta, and 2 of sugar.
This is how we, in the small community I was born and raised and my family is lucky to live yet, are dealing with the criminals that have imposed the crisis. These are the places where people support each other because we know everyone since we were small kids. We grew up together, went to school, and celebrate birthdays, Christmas, Mardi Gras together. We cried when our elders were gone, all together. I have found people from my hometown in the opposite side of the country that I did not remember, and they had gone to basic school with me, and after a few anecdotes, we were laughing and shaking hands. This is the kind of community that will struggle but will survive.
The other ones?. The big city dwellers?…
The hardworking father of three, with a minimum wage, is starving, and watching their family starve too. Some of them quit their jobs and started a life of crime. Other ones leave their families behind and don’t come back. Other have been kind enough to tell their families that they will be in this or that country, and never appear again.
Many have committed suicide.
Elders do it because they don’t want to be a burden nor an additional weight for their family.
Youngers because they don’t see themselves in such apocalyptical scenario. Normal stuff in other countries like buying a car, a house, having children, graduating from college, seem to be impossible tasks, no matter how hard you work for that.
The official rate of suicides is not something that can be trusted. The gang that claims to be a government is covering up even the starvation deaths of the children in the hospitals, in an attempt to avoid further international sanctioning.
They are forcing doctors to fake the cause of the deaths in the reports.
And this, ladies and gentlemen, is what hyperinflation and a collapsed country looks like.
May God bless us and protects us all.
Note: Thanks for your generosity, to those who have contributed to get my family out, and those who will assist us in the future.
Comments
fuck these people who voted for a communist time after time. what do they think happens in a non-market economy. shortages. that's fucking what. this isn't hyperinflation. its a fucking supply-demand failure caused by communists. enjoy your 25 cent gasoline, because that's what you voted for, idiots. since you blew your credit scores, and can't get a loan, maybe you can call the other mental midgets in cuba and north korea, comrade to comrade, for help as a matter of principle. sad. yes. sadder yet that ignorance brought it upon themselves.
Coming to a country near you... Prepare accordingly.
If you have not been actively preparing, then get your ass in gear.
You're definitely running out of time...
In reply to they voted for it by ???ö?
...gear, weapons, ammo, fuel, food, water, and PMs.
In reply to Coming to a country near you… by El Oregonian
If Hitlery had followed Obozo to the White House...
Just a matter of time until the Socialist rot infected the whole US.
You can see it already in Dim/Lib run cities which are now crime-ridden financially failing third-world hell-holes.
In reply to ...gear, weapons, ammo, fuel… by UmbilicalMosqu…
Who cares about fiat when you have land to grow your own stuff. Just look at native Indian populations still left in Venzuela, clothing comes from stuff woven from plant fiber. Food and fish are bountiful. Heck they make their own paints and canoes. Who needs the stinking fiat. Only those who were drive off their lands and herded into the city to be central bank slaves. A fish and a banana will always be a fish and a banana, something fiat can never do.
In reply to If Hitlery had followed… by wee-weed up
We got a bunch of those SoDoSoPa gentrified areas where all the dandy liberals live. So many soft white tangos. No reason to stock anything but ammo and weapons so long as you have white liberals nearby. I'll do my grocery shopping at their houses, once the police stop showing up for work.
In reply to ...gear, weapons, ammo, fuel… by UmbilicalMosqu…
I am surprised that Maduro has lasted this long. The most likely outcome is a military coup in less than 4 years with another even more brutal tyrant. Venezuela has no liveable future for a decade. Once organized crime is deeply rooted and people accept it as natural, it is very difficult to remove.
In reply to We got a bunch of those… by jin187
That's just it. I don't think "prepping" alone is a viable answer in a Venezuela scenario. Storing up your own supplies and gold and having bullets to protect them really is not going to work very well. Look at his comments: " Someone with manual, valuable skills, that could provide basic goods or services, will be able to survive. "
You need to be an invaluable contributor with skills that others need. You need to find a community that will work together to survive. You need access to basic resources like water and shelter. You need to be flexible.
I just don't think building a fortress or an underground bunker is the way to go. The Selfie generation will be the first to die off. Those that have basic skills and interpersonal connections will survive.
In reply to Coming to a country near you… by El Oregonian
Big cities, where the biggest problems always lie, are cesspools of liberal incompetence. This includes American cities where you are likely to find community organizers, identifiable as people who are all talk, no work. The pigs in Animal Farm.
Big city inhabitants would die in a month without the help of some distant, unknown, thankless farmers.
In reply to That's just it. I don't… by Bryan
That's why I try to live far enough away from cities, that once they get here they'll be like easy pickins zombies. Hopefully not the fast kind of zombies though:)
In reply to Big cities, where the… by ???ö?
Check out this conversation I had with "a New York Banker":
The New York Republican • an hour ago
Why are a bunch of Reality TV stars clamoring for The White House. We need people with political experience, Trump has embarrassed us enough already, and Oprah sounds like the liberal equivalent of trump, left wing populism. I would like to see an economist or a banker in The White House, if we can't find anyone on The Hill, someone like Ben Bernanke wouldn't be bad.
Jack The New York Republican • an hour ago
You sir, are certifiably insane! An economist? A Fed Chairman? Why not let Cohn, an ex Squid president run the country? They already do anyway but at least let us makebelieve we are not run by the banksters!
The New York Republican • an hour ago
Yes an economist who understands the economy, and maybe you hate bankers but as a Private Banker I can confidently say I know more about our economy and financial markets than over 95% of the population. Bankers keep this country going. Trump is nowhere near as qualified as those people to run our country.
Jack The New York Republican • an hour ago
My good Sir, I myself have a simple hobby. I read all I can about what's happening with our economy. I hear the Austrian and Keynesian theories. I follow the market every day. I watch everybody's chart porn. I read many economists and analysts. It's almost always WRONG! The people you give qualifications are the people that have brought us to where we are today, Sir. I question the intent of your posts.
The New York Republican • an hour ago
That is incorrect, if you chart our economy over the last 100 years or so, what we see is that we have a long term trend line of economic growth, the issue is that no politician has looked for long term solutions, but a sense of stability has been maintained barring the Great Depression. The president occupier of The White House lacks the decorum or education to manage our economy effectively/ I subscribe to the Chicago School of Thought, which drove Ronald Reagan's administration in the 1980s. Economists may not be able to predict the economy but they can make good suggestions on the institutional changes that are required. I majored in economics and now work as a Private Banker on Wall Street. My intent is to fix this country and bring about a sense of normalcy.
Jack The New York Republican • an hour ago
Growth measured by what? The dollar? It's worth .04 of what it was worth in 1913 when we gave away our constitution to The Fed. GDP? Bond yields? How's that working out for you? You guys are scrambling to pull in what Main Street is left and there isn't much. Good luck with normalacy. Normal has never looked like this, except in the 80s and in 2007...Only this time IS the same..On Steroids! Are you going to do anything about derivatives when that goes south? No. You can't. So try and line up your muppets for the slaughter to save your ass. Good luck.
The New York Republican • 41 minutes ago
2018 is a worrying year by all accounts and with record low interest rates around the world, and the stock market bubbles in America and India fed by speculation has worsened the situation considerably. Nonetheless I'd rather have a guy at the helm who understands the economy than a reality Tv star.
Jack The New York Republican • 34 minutes ago
I'm not so sure that he doesn't understand. Granted the stock market is in a huuuge bubble, as he said during his campaign. I don't know why he wants to take the credit for it as when it pops all will blame him. But it;s been a good year economically when it shouldn't have been. I think he's much more than a reality tv star and seeing that he has all the vampire squid around him I don't think your assumptions about him are correct. Are you telling me that you know more than the president of Goldman Sachs?
edit: The president doesn't need to be an economist. He needs to be The President, and a delegator which he seems to be. Almost all economists and analysts get it wrong. They live in Academia, not the real world. Rogoff, Summers? I hate those guys. They;re just minions of a cashless society NWO baloney ruin the world line of crap! You want an economist in the most powerful seat in the world? You must not have any children
In reply to That's just it. I don't… by Bryan
TL:DR/
In reply to Check out this conversation… by Oldguy05
That's what I plan on... as well as other things.
In reply to That's just it. I don't… by Bryan
Yep. The only skill that really matters in Venezuela is how fast, how far, how accurate, and how often can you shoot. If you need a car repaired, all you have to do is go enslave a mechanic. They might even be thankful, seeing as how you'll have to feed them in order to keep them repairing shit, and I doubt they'll care that the food was stolen from their neighbor's kids.
In reply to That's just it. I don't… by Bryan
It's already started in Amerika... 25% unemployment, at least 10% inflation... we are on the way... almost all inner cities are in deep already. Learn and Prepare
In reply to Coming to a country near you… by El Oregonian
Want to torture your friends?
Ask your friends...or My favorite thing is to ask any person in the "Banking Industry" several questions...
Define "Fiat" currency.
Who owns the Federal Reserve?
How is money created?
Describe fractional Reserve Banking?
I have YET to have one person answer even ONE of these basic questions...and I am not a Banker...Hilarious...
.
Another good example to make your friends and families heads explode is put a $20 bill next to something like a Wine Glass...or even a quarter, or several pens anything to make your point and ask them "Which one is worth more?" Of course they always go to the piece of crap photocopied piece of paper. When you explain to them that this is just a 1 cent piece of paper, and the other object has far superior value...once in awhile you get the lights to turn on.
Another great comment is this. "You trade your life for pieces of paper that somebody photocopies...Right?" It is true. No matter what your wage...if you are not earning your income passively, then you are trading your best hours of your life for pieces of paper. This is a mind blower if they get it.
In reply to they voted for it by ???ö?
I am just a retail clerk and I can answer all of those. Being impoverished is a great motivator to find out what happened to oneself.
Stacking like a baller!
In reply to Want to torture your friends… by takeaction
It's what you do with your earnings that count...
In reply to I am just a retail clerk and… by Silver Savior
Lest we forget, this is the same old formula wrapped in a different package...
US Regime Change in Venezuela: The Truth Is Easy if You Follow the Money Trail (Global Research, Jul 2017)
In reply to they voted for it by ???ö?
Socialism is just a pleasant word for communism. Same disease. Same symptoms. Hyperinflation is NOT the problem. A centralized, non-market economy is the problem. Military control is a symptom, not a cause. Shortages arise from supply/demand failures that communism/socialism create.
In reply to Lest we forget, this is the… by Lore
"Without money from the IMF, having paid the debt, and kicked them out of the country…the disaster arrived anyway."
Hmmm...I wonder what THAT has to do with it.
In reply to Lest we forget, this is the… by Lore
You take money from the IMF satans, you pay the price someday. Even satan says there is no free lunch.
In reply to "Without money from the IMF,… by Oldguy05
Yes, but the price is extreme.
My heart bleeds for these good souls.
Venezuelans are wonderful people who live in an unspeakably beautiful country, but have made the tragic mistake of trusting their government.
They are now learning the painful, but necessary lesson that you can never, never, EVER trust government. It is one (clearly not all) of the most evil things ever conceived in the mind of man.
[you have been warned...]
In reply to You take money from the IMF… by ???ö?
It's the lot of fools to suffer and die at the hands of tyrants. Remember, they had 50,000 years of civilization to learn from, but didn't. To quote the great poet Michael Render, "Yo momma raised a fuckboy, next time do better".
In reply to Yes, but the price is… by MasterPo
So now's the best time to be an American tourist? Hotel's for $3 a night? Five star dinner for $5?
In reply to Yes, but the price is… by MasterPo
BINGO
In reply to "Without money from the IMF,… by Oldguy05
people who voted for a communist?
I'd say that some reading would help you understand what that communism is and what Socialist is.
Venezuela is socialist.
These are the top 10:
China
Denmark
Finland
Netherlands
Canada
Sweden
Norway
Ireland
New Zealand
Belgium
United States is bankrupt Capitalist/socialist country. The term socialist has been thrown around quite a bit in the past few years. Not since the cold war has the term garnered so much attention in the press and from politicians. But when you look at countries who actually have a socialist economic structure, you can see some similarities to the United States – but there are some really stark differences.
Despite popular myths, there is very little connection between economic performance and welfare expenditure. Many of the countries on this list are proof of that, such as Denmark and Finland. Even though both countries are more socialistic than America, the workforce remains stronger.
China
In China the government manages and controls the economy. Many of the domestic companies are owned and run by the government. Recently, the Chinese economy has become more geared towards capitalism, but is still officially socialist. Life in China remains relatively less stressful and more relaxed than life in capitalist countries like America.
Collectivism a growing concern in the EU, US, UK, Canada.
Collectivism will always eventually destroy the economy of any nation, no matter how great it may be.
Current example - Venezuela
Whenever the standard of living for the majority of citizens drops significantly in a jurisdiction, the voters will be ripe for empty promises. In every such case, collectivism will appear to be the best solution.
In reply to they voted for it by ???ö?
Maybe you didn't get the memo, schoolboy.
Socialism is nothing but a pleasant word for a bullshit, failed-theory called communism.
Socialists are nothing more than communists who wear suits and ties instead of Mao shirts.
In reply to people who voted for a… by Justin Case
You seem to equate welfare expenditure to only alms for the poor. Food stamps and shit. That's a drop in the bucket to corporate subsidies, kickbacks, and tax policies designed to artificially pick winners and losers, for personal gain and cronyism. Even the tax code itself is one big welfare system, purposely designed to be burdensome to the individual, in order to prop up the corrupt tax preparation and accounting services, that spend most of their free time lobbying to make sure they never become obsolete due to a reduction in tax complexity.
In reply to people who voted for a… by Justin Case
Maybe they didn't vote for it; maybe elections were stolen.
Have you ever voted in a free and fair election?
You sure about that?
In reply to they voted for it by ???ö?
Maybe they ought to stop philosophising like you.
In reply to Maybe they didn't vote for… by Gargoyle
J.G. Martinez D is a member of far-right fascist oligarch opposition to the Bolivarian revolution in Venezuela. J.G. Martinez D was involved in the conspiracy, by the oil industry (PDVSA) in 2002, to remove Chavez & was forced to move to FL.
The Organic Prepper is a private independent company with 1 owner (CEO) & 8 employees with a revenue of $92.9K (owler.com/company/apartmentprepper#!).
The Organic Prepper, similar to ZH & SHTFplan makes its money by spreading doom and gloom to sell their products & propaganda. The OP mockingbirds (((prestitutres))), just lie ZH, hates the social revolution in Venezuela for one simple reason, they are a group of anarchist that advocates self-governed societies based on stateless societies & opposing authority or hierarchical organizations like communism, collectivism, syndicalism, mutualism or participatory economics.
And Tyler Durden (who ever you are), you are a dumb MF & a stupid shit. Go fuck yourself.
In reply to they voted for it by ???ö?
The globalists destroyed their country. Wake the fuck up.
In reply to they voted for it by ???ö?
This is why I own PMs. The insanity of Venezuela is stunning.
Learned it from the vatican.
Way back.
In reply to This is why I own PMs. The… by HRH of Aquitaine 2.0
... way back when a good liberation theologist could molest little boys at leisure.
In reply to Learned it from the vatican… by wisehiney
whenever i hear Venezuela, i think petrocoin
but...
also who here uses binance?
the worlds largest crypto exchange (billions in dollars a day)
is getting targeted by hackers (again), and
binance has no frickn clue whats going on (again)
nor do they know how to fix it.
reports over the past few months of user accounts being drained
as binance fails to admit fault. and drained accounts of users still going bonkers.
with billions traded daily
and 'the largest' currency exchange on the market,
this could potentially destroy the future of coin for awhile.
binances' lack of development skills should be
scary enough to diversify your holdings between other exchanges
until the problems are resolved. but doubt that will ever happen
without first them admitting there is a problem.
it appears the hack originates (CURRENTLY)) from 'crypto news' websites.
when a binance user is logged into their accounts and
navigates to a hostile crypto news site, account details are stolen
and immediately automated towards a pump/dump pool action
and then funds are quickly withdrawn. most interesting is
the hostile news sites are crawled by googlebot and duckduckgo
so they appear listed within the top ten when searching for crypto under the news section.
without getting into the exact details of session hijacking and scripts attack vectors and functions that are vulnerable,
the only way to protect yourself would be to enable a third party script blocker,
which also disables the functionality of binance; so you wouldnt be able to trade.
i would list the news site but they could easily buy another for a penny and do it again. also they could happen on any site, so...
hope this helps friends
You shouldn't be holding anything on exchanges. If you have your own wallet and own private keys, you don't need to worry about all the shit you seem to be worrying about.
As long as people are leaving currencies on exchange there is huge motivation for hackers to hack. Doesn't matter how capable binance is, hackers will find a way. If everyone withdrew the majority of their holdings to a wallet, hackers would have less incentive to hack.
In reply to whenever i hear Venezuela, i… by wtftech
The best part of this story is the US citizens who are completely oblivious to the effect of international sanctions on Venezuela, which is a globalist effort to remove the current leader in order to collect on debts incurred by prior administrations and owed to bankers.
US citizens have nothing to do with it. US citizens are the most charitable people on the planet. Fact.
Instead of US citizens, you mean sanctions by community organizer, comrade Obama, so don't obfuscate the issue with your do-nothing PC bullshit.
In reply to The best part of this story… by LetThemEatRand
Well, comrade Trump has doubled down on the sanctions including forbidding the trading of Venezuela's blockchain currency. I'm not suggesting that I would invest in their crypto coin, but the Trump administration has literally made it illegal for any US citizen to do so.
In reply to Americans have nothing to do… by ???ö?
Are you high?
In reply to Well, comrade Trump has… by LetThemEatRand
Are you disagreeing with my statement above and saying it is factually untrue? Please enlighten me.
In reply to Are you high? by ???ö?
I'm saying this has not one fucking thing to do with your Trump obsession, contrary to what all your good friends in metro-syphilis think.
In reply to Are you disagreeing with my… by LetThemEatRand
Obsequious obedience to banks is, sadly, not something that divides by party lines.
In reply to Americans have nothing to do… by ???ö?
Yes, US citizens are very charitable with their taxpayer paid bombs and bullets. Just ask the Iraqis, or Ukrainians, or Syrians, or.....
In reply to Americans have nothing to do… by ???ö?
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In reply to Americans have nothing to do… by ???ö?
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In reply to Americans have nothing to do… by ???ö?
That is pure bullshit. They have been heading down the communist path since Hugo took over.
In reply to The best part of this story… by LetThemEatRand
Venezuela is one of the richest countries in the world in terms of oil reserves. They have the resources to power their electric grid solely from low-cost hydro electric and have plentiful farm land. They also are not in a hurricane region, yet they can't make their economy work. It is almost as if a central command economy is full of corruption/inefficiencies and waste.
In reply to That is pure bullshit. They… by youarelost
Pagination