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Luna nights Anonymous 07/03/2019 (Wed) 04:33:34 [Preview] No. 31731
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I know no Spanish, but I think they will post the Touhou game soon.


Anonymous 07/03/2019 (Wed) 18:41:31 [Preview] No.31732 del
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how to into touhou?
asking for a friend


Anonymous 07/04/2019 (Thu) 04:07:33 [Preview] No.31735 del
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>>31732
just post a bunch of reimus and cirnos and you're in boss


Anonymous 07/04/2019 (Thu) 10:31:59 [Preview] No.31736 del
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>>31735
Yes, I've been doing that for years but I'm searching for a deeper understanding, maybe even one that would allow me to creatively participate.

To give an example of what I'm trying to arrive at I didn't get what the fuss was all about with S.T.A.L.K.E.R. until my 4th playthrough or so. I ran a mod that was so hardcore it even made you load magazines with ammo manually bullet by bullet and as I was doing that in a safe area in the middle of the Zone I got anxious about what I'm going to face next, how can I prepare for that, what can I take with me while simultaneously feeling glad that I can just chill for a while not needing to run for my life. While I was being torn between wanting to go out and explore and feeling afraid to do it I finally understood why people wrote greentext stories about things that happened to 'them' in just some stupid video game.

So when something gets a cult following there's usually a reason and it's usually poorly communicated all the while being difficult to get at without approaching it in a certain way or with a certain mindset.

So how to into touhou?


Anonymous 07/04/2019 (Thu) 12:05:09 [Preview] No.31737 del
>cuckeo games
<bing bing wahoos


Anonymous 07/04/2019 (Thu) 12:57:53 [Preview] No.31739 del
>>31736
https://moriyashrine.org/
https://mangadex.org/title/2307/touhou-ibara-kasen-wild-and-horned-hermit

what do you mean how to? just play the games but they're hard as h*ck unless you really have an affinity for shmups. Here's an official manga.


Anonymous 07/04/2019 (Thu) 14:29:07 [Preview] No.31740 del
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>>31739
>just play the games
That's the thing, I get the walking in the rain without getting wet aspect but most of fan creations seem to have very little to do with the actual games. I had a friend who was BIG into 2hu and he told me he doesn't even play the games, he's in it for the artwork and music. While I can appreciate those character design and melodies feel samey aside from few gems here and there and I just don't get how it could inspire people to make so much great content. There must be something I'm missing. I've played a bit of 06 and 07 and from my poor understanding of Japanese back then I could only tell there was some inconsequential banter going on, might've given up too early.
What is it? What makes Touhou truly shine? How do I get there to experience it? And don't just tell me it's not for me. I'm positive I've missed something. I'm not trying to appease some Touhou Council of Elders either, I can blend in when I want to already.
I'm genuinely curious. I'll read the manga first I guess.


Anonymous 07/04/2019 (Thu) 18:51:32 [Preview] No.31741 del
>>31740
how much of a newfag are you?
there is nothing very "special" about touhou
is just that zun's setup made things EASY for derivative work:
- lots of gay little girls
- simple but varied character design (appearance, personality, and other traits)
- simple open-ended narrative/interactions
- insider culture (by otakus for otakus)
- simple melodies
- simple to program (for a basic implementation and relative to other kinds of games)
that's pretty much it, the only extra thing needed is the initial push for popularity which would give it critical mass which for touhou was provided by the actual game itself and its myth of hellish gameplay which gained it that "cult" status (similar to the mentioned stalker, or more recently the souls series, etc)
that was ostensibly the only honestly "special" thing about it, but obviously it was only special then in the very beginning, the rest of the games are simply more of the same
and of course in general there is nothing special about the gazillion derivative works

this template has then been deliberately reproduced: kancolle, azur lane, fgo, etc etc
there is even less "specialness" about those, just more template copypasta


07/05/2019 (Fri) 07:36:37 [Preview] No.31742 del
>>31740
me dude ure "miss" is of thinking too hard

do note thought

toho is of comon appeel


Anonymous 07/05/2019 (Fri) 08:51:39 [Preview] No.31743 del
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>>24713
things like this don't happen without passion
and there is a reason for this passion


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>>31740
man, I almost think you're trolling. assuming you're not so, that moriya shrine site, they have a forum and a discord (if you're into that), the 4chan /vg/ touhou general and 8ch's /2hu/ board are all fine places I assume to get your feet wet with more of the content. Ultimately the translated versions of the games are where it's at because that's where the doujins and what not get content to expound upon. there is a vast amount of fan content and it's daunting.


Anonymous 07/06/2019 (Sat) 12:44:53 [Preview] No.31746 del
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>>31744
Thanks for that but it's not exactly what I'm trying to get from you. It seems going forward with my mental processes complicates things more than it clears them. Not the first time that ever happened.
Let's try differently. Honest to dog question.
What made you into a fan of Touhou?


Anonymous 07/06/2019 (Sat) 18:55:11 [Preview] No.31747 del
Did they ever post a download for Luna Nights? All of the torrents I found had Trojans.


Anonymous 07/06/2019 (Sat) 19:33:21 [Preview] No.31748 del
>>31746
>fan
idiocy probably


Anonymous 07/06/2019 (Sat) 19:50:06 [Preview] No.31749 del
also suika a best


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>>31751
no u

>>31752
>doyobi night
>going to sleep without tearing open the shojo
nerd


Anonymous 07/08/2019 (Mon) 10:44:54 [Preview] No.31757 del
is the kemonomimi/wings reductio an original touhou invention?


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Anonymous 07/09/2019 (Tue) 21:02:55 [Preview] No.31763 del
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hmm


Anonymous 07/10/2019 (Wed) 00:11:43 [Preview] No.31764 del
>>31763
is she wearing her headphones wrong or does she have 4 ears


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>>31763
>Tony headphones


Anonymous 07/10/2019 (Wed) 12:50:30 [Preview] No.31768 del
>>31764
actually she's manipulating the soundwaves to emulate voice2skull technology


Anonymous 07/10/2019 (Wed) 23:57:12 [Preview] No.31775 del
>>31768
so only 2 ears(the bunny ones) and no human ears under her hair


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>>31758
you'll get your answer if you can guess mai wai


Anonymous 07/13/2019 (Sat) 18:59:22 [Preview] No.31791 del
>>31787
You have no reason to bully me.
It's Remilia.


Anonymous 07/15/2019 (Mon) 09:58:54 [Preview] No.31800 del
It's not a trick question, come on dude. I'm just trying to figure out how do things like pic related happen.
It's not the setting. It's different than most fantasy settings and that is appealing but it has this tint of something thought up by a high school occult club member with Apollo 11 invasion and all. Well it has that tint because it is product of Maribel's imagination, who's oddly similar to Yukari to a point of bootlegging and I was pleasantly suprised that wasn't coincidence either. Still it's no Middle-earth and the fan content doesn't seem to be involved with the setting very much.


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There are some great character design ideas in Touhou but I don't think it's the main pull either. If original characters designs were so great fan artists wouldn't try to tweak them so frequently.
These pics might not the best example since they're heavily stylized for those sweet castlevania vibes but still just compare them to original Touhou artwork. I'm not talking about drawing quality itself but rather how captivating the design is. Even the simpler attires here have that something to them.


Anonymous 07/16/2019 (Tue) 23:25:15 [Preview] No.31813 del
no one in his right mind would call touhou character designs great and no one here did
next!


Anonymous 07/17/2019 (Wed) 01:42:23 [Preview] No.31814 del
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We might skip music and gameplay while we're at it. Music is a factor of course, variety of subcultures formed around music but Touhou is not a genre onto itself. And here I can serve as a counterpoint too since although I enjoy some 2hu music and remixes I can't be considered a genuine 2hufag.
As for the gameplay fan content seldom revolves around it. Compare it to Dark Souls, most of the content produced by that fandom has to do with the gameplay.
Now this image outlines superficial similarities and while there are important differences, that allowed one to flourish and doomed the other, there is a connection to be found. The question 'who's your favourite 2hu' comes up again and again. I can't speak for how fleshed out the characters are but it's enough they have some quirks like Nitori being a tinkerer and Suika downing booze for a form of infatuation to happen as in this is my 2hu she was made for me.
Perhaps it has to do with something like seeing parts of yourself in some character displayed in a scenario where they're accepted but that doesn't explain what I'm trying to figure out.
Still some form of emotional attachment can be formed, while a sort of identification and belonging follow into a community providing an incentive for content production. Now how you get from there to yukkuris is fucking magic and it is what I'd like to comprehend ultimately but that's for another time.

Am I anywhere close?


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>>31814

sert`der nie re^uy


‮/ℳ⋀/ 07/17/2019 (Wed) 04:17:57 [Preview] No.31818 del
>>31813
‮>on eno ni thgir dnim ereh


Anonymous 07/17/2019 (Wed) 05:23:48 [Preview] No.31819 del
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>So when something gets a cult following there's usually a reason and it's usually poorly communicated all the while being difficult to get at without approaching it in a certain way or with a certain mindset.
Touhou is what turned me from an edgy child on /pol/ into the freedom loving rabbit I am today. I'm glad that you're taking the time to look into this because I really think there is something of value here to explore.
>>31740
>What is it? What makes Touhou truly shine?
Chunnibyou spirit
>How do I get there to experience it?
It helps if you find touhou when you're already possessed of that essence, e.g. actually being a teenager.
That said, there's nothing stopping you from doing so today.
ZUN had an interview where he elaborated on this, if you're looking for a firsthand account of what infuses the work. The music CDs also often cover this idea, though only explicitly in the most recent one.
In a translation of his own words (from https://en.touhouwiki.net/wiki/Dateless_Bar_%22Old_Adam%22/Story)
>Afterword
>Hello, it's ZUN. I tried out making two CDs in a row.
>In terms of story, it's a continuation of Swallowstone Naturalis Historia. If the previous work, Naturalis Historia, is the front side, then this is the back. Since it's the back side, I included many songs that are difficult to enjoy musically. How'd it turn out?
>This work's theme is "adults with the posturing attitude of middle-schoolers". "Chuunibyou" is an easy word to toss around, but understanding that as a motif isn't so simple. I think the source of it is how people tend to think of their childhood as embarrassing, as part of how they progress from a state of innocence to adulthood.
>In becoming an adult, one becomes different from their past self, and in that same vein, different from those around them. As a result, they think for no reason that they're an utterly unique individual. If you consider it this way, "I have a cursed right hand~" or "I can whisper into your mind~" and so on aren't really the core essence of chuunibyou.
>The true nature of this adolescent posturing is the heat of life. It's an explosion of one's imaginative power. It's a form of resistance against a chilled society, wielding both purity and creativity.
>Lately, I've been thinking: how can I maintain that eighth-grade attitude until the day I die? If I can do that, I can enjoy sake for my whole life.
>ZUN
This kind of thinking is what I saw in /AM/ and made me want to stick around. It's what makes chans fresh and keeps them productive where sites with social identities tend to sink into the mud. In an anonymous space, there's no shame to limit your creativity. Anything can be tried and repeated regardless of merit or consequence. There's limitless possibilities because nobody can call you out on your claims. There's no kid from your elementary school who already knows you. Everybody has an IQ over 200, and a 10/10 body, or if it suits their purposes they might be so wretched and disgusting that onlookers cannot even turn to face them. Anything outside of the story and the content can be twisted to suit it and portray any content in it's most beneficial light.
Touhou is a lot like this.
What does "Power enough to manipulate fate" mean? I think that the story of Remilia Scarlet is important to why Touhou took off so dramatically. By all accounts it seems like she put out a real threat that would have killed a lot of people with the mist, and that she forgot about her sister, and that she only did this to cover up the sun so she could go outside. But evidence also stands to suggest another story, that she engineered all of these events to create the state of affairs of gensokyo where incidents take place, are resolved, and a charming life of carefree teaparties can continue with an expanded cast. It seems reasonable to suggest that there was some real element of a conspired attempt to push her autistic sister into interaction with others so that she could make a friend, which seems to have succeeded. And with every rendition of remilia going forward, her


Anonymous 07/17/2019 (Wed) 05:26:56 [Preview] No.31820 del
- her power is portrayed as so great that every failing of hers seems to be deliberate. EoSD confirms that the sun holds little concern for a creature of her durability, yet the claim is made that she blocked the sun to go outside. She is seen repeatedly outdoors with merely a simple parasol in an overwhelming number of latter works. A story about an unknown monster with unseen limits which engages in a violent act of issuing forth toxicity in an attempt to deliberately create a facsimile of social interaction is very much the story of the chans. No amount of posturing or hostility can enact force on the other participants of the tea party. EVerything is done voluntarily, including every case in which one chooses to give up ground. Most conflicts are instigated merely for the sake of conflict; the inhabitants of gensokyo are strange and inhuman and need at least the idea of struggle to be present in order to survive.
>The true nature of this adolescent posturing is the heat of life. It's an explosion of one's imaginative power. It's a form of resistance against a chilled society, wielding both purity and creativity.
It's this idea which makes touhou beloved. I don't think it takes much imagination to see how this quote can be applied to what we've been trying to do with /AM/.


Anonymous 07/17/2019 (Wed) 05:36:10 [Preview] No.31821 del
>>31818
not at all, I am perfectly sane, for I'll have you know I was only pretending ;)


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>>31821
>ylerem gnidneterp

living the dog, my dude'


Anonymous 07/17/2019 (Wed) 14:38:19 [Preview] No.31824 del
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>>31820
Yes... yes!
That would explain why do I pick up same shitpost auras as on /aM/ in places of Touhou influence.
Now that I know what I'm looking for I can justify the energy expenditure to my internal parliament.
Thanks dude. I'm gonna give EoSD another go.


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fucking saved


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There's a problem. I'm like 3/4 through the game but instead of that pure creative chuunibyou spirit I only feel an increasing urge to violate Sakuya.


Anonymous 07/17/2019 (Wed) 18:40:38 [Preview] No.31830 del
>>31828
Hold shift for focused movement


Anonymous 07/17/2019 (Wed) 22:56:49 [Preview] No.31832 del
>>31822
aye, i hear you, in nothing but pretendings a whole lyf can be spent, you tell me, lyv lyf my dyd, you tell me
but there's a problem: i was pretending to merely pretend, there's no lyf to lyv beyond pretendering, only more miserlings


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Anonymous 07/18/2019 (Thu) 14:30:39 [Preview] No.31843 del
mass Suicide By Blathering today, hooray.
30+ people dead


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I managed to cheese my way to Remilia. I think I felt it, just a bit.


Anonymous 07/20/2019 (Sat) 02:12:56 [Preview] No.31928 del
>>31920
What loadout are you using?
MarisaB has an extremely powerful bomb which besides being able to be used to cheese boss fights can be used to get huge score in sections where it's otherwise impossible to clear every enemy. With EoSD's 'life per 2mil score' mechanic you can easily get extra lives out of it (as well as a higher score once you start playing for that) which gives a net gain in bombs (which are again super strong on marisaB).
Reimu has the better endings though, I think easy route (turned away after stage 5) might even be cannon for marisa.


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>>31928
ReimuA, I need the homing attack. Last thing I want when I desperately try to not click too hard and move 2 lenghts of my hitbox right into a bullet is to worry where the enemy is.
I don't even know if there's any sensible advice to give about Touhou. It seems like one of these games you beat into your subconscious over and over again until it takes over and you get into 'the zone', where you don't really feel like it's you playing anymore, and that's the only way to beat it.


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