>>74
Intriguing that those names are mentioned, truly. Considering their blood ties.

It isn't about who won, lost, or chose to be a martyr for their people, but their actions. Their decisions, processes in which the leader objectively described chose to do what they did. Take >>64 for example--he worked to banish freemasonry from his country, which was subverted back in an Egyptian dynasty by corrupt scum. It no longer held onto traditional values influencing the direction of civilization towards the top of the pyramid, which held no capstone originally (Jesus spoke of this, clearly, yet that too was subverted and disguised by usurpers). Instead, we have the offspring of luciferianism, a bunch of disheveled meat sacks believing that their choices are for a greater good.

Let's play it your way and discuss those opposite of the OP. You know, communists. Bright idea, brighter than Yaldabaoth, JahBuLon, Godriel, Hiram, Lucifer, Chronos, Vulcan, Nimrod and Tammuz, and Osiris could ever be.

I'm holding the nail or "law of five" peace sign in solidarity to the notion.