Bernd 01/16/2019 (Wed) 18:31:06 No.22448 del
>>22437
>So to use women in such a way is not only selfish but cruel.
It's also about learning. How she starts out learning a relationship containing sexual aspect. She already has to have some knowledge about it via seeing her parents - not everything ofc - but now they time has come for her to gain knowledge on her own experience. For starters it would be important getting in a relationship which would gain her long lasting attention from a desired partner, opportunities not just to satisfy her personal needs (not just the lowest level physiological-sexual but higher ones as well) but learn she has to make an effort in order the gain affection, get to know the other and keep the relationship alive, but instead her first experiences will teach her that behaving whorish she could easily gain instant but short spanning male attention and satisfaction of sexual urges. She doesn't learn how to be a desirable partner just how to be a desirable cunt. And later when she might get in a real relationship she won't know the first thing. On occasions it might turn out all right, but more often than not won't and she will be alone again wondering where are the good guys and such.

>Now in contrast we get to mans basic instinct, which is reflected in the animal kingdom, more primitive cultures and in mans history.
There's an oversimplification here that I saw occurring other parts on the internet as well, the myth that the man's natural instinct is just sowing the seed and move on get someone else to sow into and drawing an equation with the animal kingdom as you put it. Yes some species do that, maybe bears, where the female is left alone after mating. But at other species this is not the case liek at wolves and homonidae. In their case the cycle is more complex, you yourself wrote above:
>copulate, make children and raise those children.
Or how I would put it: make the baby, see it to born and raise it until mature enough to repeat the cycle on it's own. Yes, a male can do that with several females but on the other hand humans even capable of live in a community with other families (on the more basic level with blood related ones, in a greater/extended family, gens or clan, but even with families which aren't blood related).

>men pick women up and put them down freely
The problem isn't only this, but it works in reverse, women do the same.

>the church seemed to merely introduce shame and force people to act instinctively in private
Nod really sexual behaviour is part of morality which is public matter and the church pressured people to remain moral even behind the closed door of their bedroom. Ofc enforcing is another matter, but preaching and extorting confessions then giving out punishments worked for some extent.

>I struggle to see how you can change the way people view sexuality.
It changed once with the zeitgeist, you yourself wrote:

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