Bernd
04/03/2019 (Wed) 19:27:23
No.24270
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04/03/2019 (Wed) 19:27:23
No.24270
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>>24229
Looked into that video, but I won't watch it. Some stuff sounds cool but then there are stuff like him >>24240 cut from it and makes no sense or wrong, or even malicious fallaciousness.
This "trader is traitor" thing is so horribly wrong. Even the first sentence that when we buy and sell things we are traitors of humanity. How else would things get to their place of use if we wouldn't do that? Even if we would just put everything in a big pile from entirely altruistic reasons for others to take what they need in the end we would also gain something out of it since we also need things (items or services) that we can't provide to ourselves. And even we would profit from it because the worth of stuff can be a slippery thing to define, so maybe we would need goods which longer or harder to make what we produce, wouldn't we gain with such indirect exchange?
If we are living on an economical level which is bigger than a few households traders are goddamn essential. They are the ones who bring the goods from their production site to the place where they are put in use. If the producers would do that they wouldn't have time to produce. And basically everyone else is part of the production: some make sure the necessary skills are passed on, some make it possible for people to be able to work (help them to move their workplace or keep them healthy), some ensure they do it safely, etc. It can be argued how much traders should get for their service but it's sure they aren't traitors but necessary cogs in the wheel.
And billionaires aren't make people starve, on the contrary they allow many people to make more than enough to live. We are passed the times when capitalists kept the workforce just at the threshold of starvation, people are making several times of subsistence. There are some obvious exceptions, probably in China or Africa, but those also could be remedied I guess it would take more of political actions and corrections than economical. And again it also can be argued if billionaires should have all those wealth they don't really need but condemning them just like that is simply isn't correct.
Also someone who knows economy better would also argue: economy isn't a zero-sum game.
Looked into that video, but I won't watch it. Some stuff sounds cool but then there are stuff like him >>24240 cut from it and makes no sense or wrong, or even malicious fallaciousness.
This "trader is traitor" thing is so horribly wrong. Even the first sentence that when we buy and sell things we are traitors of humanity. How else would things get to their place of use if we wouldn't do that? Even if we would just put everything in a big pile from entirely altruistic reasons for others to take what they need in the end we would also gain something out of it since we also need things (items or services) that we can't provide to ourselves. And even we would profit from it because the worth of stuff can be a slippery thing to define, so maybe we would need goods which longer or harder to make what we produce, wouldn't we gain with such indirect exchange?
If we are living on an economical level which is bigger than a few households traders are goddamn essential. They are the ones who bring the goods from their production site to the place where they are put in use. If the producers would do that they wouldn't have time to produce. And basically everyone else is part of the production: some make sure the necessary skills are passed on, some make it possible for people to be able to work (help them to move their workplace or keep them healthy), some ensure they do it safely, etc. It can be argued how much traders should get for their service but it's sure they aren't traitors but necessary cogs in the wheel.
And billionaires aren't make people starve, on the contrary they allow many people to make more than enough to live. We are passed the times when capitalists kept the workforce just at the threshold of starvation, people are making several times of subsistence. There are some obvious exceptions, probably in China or Africa, but those also could be remedied I guess it would take more of political actions and corrections than economical. And again it also can be argued if billionaires should have all those wealth they don't really need but condemning them just like that is simply isn't correct.
Also someone who knows economy better would also argue: economy isn't a zero-sum game.