Bernd
10/24/2020 (Sat) 10:45:05
No.40711
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10/24/2020 (Sat) 10:45:05
No.40711
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Islamic Golden Age was literally just the leftovers of the scientific thought of the empires and kingdoms that Islam conquered
Can be said about any empire, regardless what you say is wrong.
> Once all the great thinkers and institutions of those years died, the age ended because it could not produce great thinkers of its own.
It died because of Turco-mongols and reqonquista.
>The thing about Islam is that it is a religion that demands absolute conviction
Correct, same case about christianity and judaism if you read their holy book. That is the reason why religious people cant into free think and science because at best they have to intepret old knowledge according to their beliefs, see neo platonism in dark ages. Even today there are islamic scholars doing that, needless to say such behaviour never improves only hinders the science and free thinking, since when you criticise their intepretation you also criticise religion.. I assume you acknowledge where this is going.
Only people who dont take their religion unliterally really created milestones.
If you think great islamic thinkers were more islamic than they were thinkerers you are dead wrong. Entire Mutalize thought revolved around rationalism how islamic law cannot handle vast empire anymore. So in a sense Islam was not naturally secularized in long process rather there was entire alternative form of Islam which dead nowadays. It's not hard to assume none of the people are convicted believers, either identify as muslims for safety or they were part of "not true islam" gang.
> You cannot half-ass it like Christianity
Hundred years of dark ages happened, if you lived around tht time you wouldnt able to say it. Yet zealots who perished the antique greco-roman heritage lost influence and newly mobilised secular classes gained power and so christianity changed. Hypathia and so many others got purged and killed for this reason, for feeble minded take their slave cult too seriously.
>I tried to see what other problems lead to Islamic countries inevitably being somewhat backwards than their contemporaries
Islamic Golden Age was literally just the leftovers of the scientific thought of the empires and kingdoms that Islam conquered
Can be said about any empire, regardless what you say is wrong.
> Once all the great thinkers and institutions of those years died, the age ended because it could not produce great thinkers of its own.
It died because of Turco-mongols and reqonquista.
>The thing about Islam is that it is a religion that demands absolute conviction
Correct, same case about christianity and judaism if you read their holy book. That is the reason why religious people cant into free think and science because at best they have to intepret old knowledge according to their beliefs, see neo platonism in dark ages. Even today there are islamic scholars doing that, needless to say such behaviour never improves only hinders the science and free thinking, since when you criticise their intepretation you also criticise religion.. I assume you acknowledge where this is going.
Only people who dont take their religion unliterally really created milestones.
If you think great islamic thinkers were more islamic than they were thinkerers you are dead wrong. Entire Mutalize thought revolved around rationalism how islamic law cannot handle vast empire anymore. So in a sense Islam was not naturally secularized in long process rather there was entire alternative form of Islam which dead nowadays. It's not hard to assume none of the people are convicted believers, either identify as muslims for safety or they were part of "not true islam" gang.
> You cannot half-ass it like Christianity
Hundred years of dark ages happened, if you lived around tht time you wouldnt able to say it. Yet zealots who perished the antique greco-roman heritage lost influence and newly mobilised secular classes gained power and so christianity changed. Hypathia and so many others got purged and killed for this reason, for feeble minded take their slave cult too seriously.
>I tried to see what other problems lead to Islamic countries inevitably being somewhat backwards than their contemporaries
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