Bernd
06/03/2022 (Fri) 09:38:01
No.47763
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06/03/2022 (Fri) 09:38:01
No.47763
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>>47737
>where does it say that?
It's not in the article. Here are some examples for the animal style of the steppe:
>>25544 >>25545 >>25546 >>25547 >>25548
Now these are just deer and similar, and just a slice of the whole material, but are very typical looking. This is missing from the findings of the European Huns. Archaeologists should note this, or at least it should be apparent from their works. I'll try to find a source and present some artifacts they unearthed, it was a long time ago last time I dabbled in this.
>but I think people take genetics way too serious.
That is true. This genetics thing is now what was linguistics at the end of the 19th century.
>Believing linguistic group=genes=ethnicity is so 19th century thing.
I concur, we concluded this here a couple of times.
>It's a shame people politicized the science in the past.
Still is now sadly.
Those guys during the communism are solidified themselves in the structure of education and academic life so strong then even today most places are theirs and their students who grew to be professors. Now the younger generations have their own ideas, and they are breaking taboos, questioning dogmas, and with the political pressure gone, they get their voice heard occasionally, and deviating from the mainline in their teachings, so the next generation of scholars will be more open minded for other ideas. However the governing party of ours, the Fidesz and Orbán set up and finances from public money an institution which specifically researches and concentrates on alternative paths. I think the research for this new paper was also supported by it. I think it is good we have a widened horizon when we look into the past of the Hungarian people and our prehistory, but it is pushed by political forces yet again.
It is worth to note, that the "traditional" views (the official Marxist Uralic line of linguistics) were also supported by people with political agenda. I often saw articles bashing ideas (and the people who put those ideas forward) about the Hun and Scythian relations from people/journalists who got their education in the Central European University financed by Soros.
I don't know if we'll ever get rid of this. Probably never, since this thing, how Hungarians see our history also influences how they vote.
>where does it say that?
It's not in the article. Here are some examples for the animal style of the steppe:
>>25544 >>25545 >>25546 >>25547 >>25548
Now these are just deer and similar, and just a slice of the whole material, but are very typical looking. This is missing from the findings of the European Huns. Archaeologists should note this, or at least it should be apparent from their works. I'll try to find a source and present some artifacts they unearthed, it was a long time ago last time I dabbled in this.
>but I think people take genetics way too serious.
That is true. This genetics thing is now what was linguistics at the end of the 19th century.
>Believing linguistic group=genes=ethnicity is so 19th century thing.
I concur, we concluded this here a couple of times.
>It's a shame people politicized the science in the past.
Still is now sadly.
Those guys during the communism are solidified themselves in the structure of education and academic life so strong then even today most places are theirs and their students who grew to be professors. Now the younger generations have their own ideas, and they are breaking taboos, questioning dogmas, and with the political pressure gone, they get their voice heard occasionally, and deviating from the mainline in their teachings, so the next generation of scholars will be more open minded for other ideas. However the governing party of ours, the Fidesz and Orbán set up and finances from public money an institution which specifically researches and concentrates on alternative paths. I think the research for this new paper was also supported by it. I think it is good we have a widened horizon when we look into the past of the Hungarian people and our prehistory, but it is pushed by political forces yet again.
It is worth to note, that the "traditional" views (the official Marxist Uralic line of linguistics) were also supported by people with political agenda. I often saw articles bashing ideas (and the people who put those ideas forward) about the Hun and Scythian relations from people/journalists who got their education in the Central European University financed by Soros.
I don't know if we'll ever get rid of this. Probably never, since this thing, how Hungarians see our history also influences how they vote.