Bernd
09/02/2025 (Tue) 20:05
No.54617
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09/02/2025 (Tue) 20:05
No.54617
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This shit is hilarious. Not the article but what he reports about.
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2025/9/2/its-all-theatre-are-europe-and-the-us-pulling-apart-on-ukraine
>Kyiv’s European and regional allies have begun to nail down commitments to a peacekeeping force that would enter Ukraine after a ceasefire is reached
Another promise they don't have to keep so it is promised easily. If there won't be a ceasefire there is no need to send forces. It's the same with NATO membership. They know some countries would veto it, so they can promise it liberally.
This is great:
>What have countries promised?
>Estonia has said it was prepared to contribute at least a military unit
>Lithuania had earlier announced it was ready to send an unspecified number of troops.
The rest doesn't promise any soldiers. Some German colonel talks about how much would be needed, and the Turks said they considering sending (but not willing).
So for now it seems the backbone of the "peacekeeping force" would be put together by two countries with the combined population of ~4,2 million whom themselves are badly need all the soldiers there is available since they are the most likely targets if Russia would decide to attack NATO countries.
And about the ceasefire:
>“Everybody knows still that a ceasefire was among one of the worst-case possible outcomes for Ukraine before Trump arrived in office,” he said.
>Ukraine and its European allies have repeatedly scoffed at a truce as a chance for
So much this. As previously said it was a major Orbán talking point, and now they mysteriously stole it from him. They do think it'd suck and no way they'd doing that but they have to keep Rutte's Daddy Trump happy so they try to approach this peace thing from there since this untolerable ceasefire is the most tolerable option for them.
>“The need to humour Trump, and to play along with the fantasy version of reality that drives the Trump world, means that they still pay lip service to these ludicrous ideas,”
This Giles guy from Chatham House tells the truth, the author of the article did good to quote them.
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2025/9/2/its-all-theatre-are-europe-and-the-us-pulling-apart-on-ukraine
>Kyiv’s European and regional allies have begun to nail down commitments to a peacekeeping force that would enter Ukraine after a ceasefire is reached
Another promise they don't have to keep so it is promised easily. If there won't be a ceasefire there is no need to send forces. It's the same with NATO membership. They know some countries would veto it, so they can promise it liberally.
This is great:
>What have countries promised?
>Estonia has said it was prepared to contribute at least a military unit
>Lithuania had earlier announced it was ready to send an unspecified number of troops.
The rest doesn't promise any soldiers. Some German colonel talks about how much would be needed, and the Turks said they considering sending (but not willing).
So for now it seems the backbone of the "peacekeeping force" would be put together by two countries with the combined population of ~4,2 million whom themselves are badly need all the soldiers there is available since they are the most likely targets if Russia would decide to attack NATO countries.
And about the ceasefire:
>“Everybody knows still that a ceasefire was among one of the worst-case possible outcomes for Ukraine before Trump arrived in office,” he said.
>Ukraine and its European allies have repeatedly scoffed at a truce as a chance for
So much this. As previously said it was a major Orbán talking point, and now they mysteriously stole it from him. They do think it'd suck and no way they'd doing that but they have to keep Rutte's Daddy Trump happy so they try to approach this peace thing from there since this untolerable ceasefire is the most tolerable option for them.
>“The need to humour Trump, and to play along with the fantasy version of reality that drives the Trump world, means that they still pay lip service to these ludicrous ideas,”
This Giles guy from Chatham House tells the truth, the author of the article did good to quote them.