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Weird Arab-German false cognates Bernd 01/25/2020 (Sat) 10:54:15 [Preview] No. 34242
Has anybody noticed how some German names are similar to Arab names? For example, Haider is both a German/Austrian name (see Jorg Haider) and an Arab word for lion. There's Jamal and then there's the German town named Jamel.
Romance languages have even more "false" cognates with Arabic that are very similar.


Bernd 01/25/2020 (Sat) 17:22:57 [Preview] No.34245 del
I noticed many Jewish names similar to German words...


Bernd 01/26/2020 (Sun) 00:17:29 [Preview] No.34250 del
>Romance languages have even more "false" cognates with Arabic that are very similar.
Iberian languages are full of actual cognates. The "al" particle is everywhere -otherwise rice (arroz) would be just roz or something like that- and Inshallah became the Portuguese oxalá and Spanish ojalá, with the same meaning. The former is antiquated, appearing in older translations of the Bible, but coincidentally an African pagan spirit with a Yoruba name is called by the exact same word.


Bernd 01/27/2020 (Mon) 05:24:41 [Preview] No.34282 del
>>34242
It could be the same words being spoken in a different language.

John, for example, is written differently in multiple languages but it still a similar word root or spoken structure throughout each language

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alternate_forms_for_the_name_John

If you really want to do more research, here's an KC tier list of over 100 names in different languages

https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Appendix:Translations_of_male_given_names_in_multiple_languages

https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Appendix:Translations_of_female_given_names_in_multiple_languages


Bernd 01/27/2020 (Mon) 13:36:14 [Preview] No.34286 del
>>34250
I thought these particular words that are supposedly false cognates are very similar to Arabic:
>El/Il (particle) comes from "Al"
>Mort/Muerte/Morte comes from "mawt"
>sei and sette are very similar to ستة and سبعة
I remember some more, but I forgot them, and there are a lot more false cognates of Latin with Hebrew (which couldn't possibly have come from even Punic). Maybe that's why it morphs so well with Arabic.


Bernd 01/27/2020 (Mon) 13:37:52 [Preview] No.34287 del
>>34282
>Apollinaris
Who names their child this in 2019?


Bernd 01/27/2020 (Mon) 13:38:07 [Preview] No.34288 del
*2020


Bernd 01/27/2020 (Mon) 16:38:27 [Preview] No.34290 del
>>34287
Better than Nintendo.


Bernd 01/27/2020 (Mon) 17:04:40 [Preview] No.34291 del
>>34290
Wait, you're saying people name their children Nintendo nowadays?


Bernd 01/27/2020 (Mon) 17:16:11 [Preview] No.34292 del
>>34291
>people
There were some gypsies who did that. I'm not sure that counts.
A Hungarian couple named their daughter Fradika. The father was great fan of the football team Ferencváros, nicknamed Fradi. -ka is the diminutive affix.


Bernd 01/27/2020 (Mon) 18:36:54 [Preview] No.34293 del
>>34292
Okay. While Nintendo is mentioned in a couple of articles (along with Pokémon and Tarzan) I can't really verify the claim someone really exists with this name.
Among current forenames which are allowed to be registered I couldn't find them, although there is no Fradika on the list either but that couple was really allowed to name their child that (it was on telly when I still watched it occasionally, in the news).
Gypsies do give weird names by our standards, typically famous (Brazilian) football players' names, or they pick something from South American soap operas.


Bernd 01/27/2020 (Mon) 19:01:18 [Preview] No.34295 del
>>34293
>articles
Of what?


Bernd 01/27/2020 (Mon) 19:02:39 [Preview] No.34296 del
>>34295
Of news outlets.


Bernd 01/27/2020 (Mon) 19:14:48 [Preview] No.34297 del
>>34296
Which news outlets?


Bernd 01/27/2020 (Mon) 19:16:15 [Preview] No.34298 del
>>34297
Hungarian ones. I doubt there are foreign news about this. Those only write about our gyppos if these are crying because of discrimination and racism.


Bernd 01/27/2020 (Mon) 19:19:29 [Preview] No.34299 del
>>34298
Ah, okay. Specifically about gypsies and names?


Bernd 01/27/2020 (Mon) 19:23:34 [Preview] No.34300 del
>>34299
Yes. It came up as "Lakatos Nintendo", and Lakatos is typical gypsy surname (tho some blessed with it aren't gypsies), and if it comes up with an unusual forename or it's in crime related news everyone knows it's about them... like a codeword.


Bernd 01/27/2020 (Mon) 19:28:22 [Preview] No.34301 del
>>34300
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCDMK5nqgURuNk0ewaMQzCBQ
https://steamcommunity.com/id/szutyok1234
Well, I guess you're right. Are these particular instances even gypsies though?


Bernd 01/27/2020 (Mon) 19:40:46 [Preview] No.34302 del
>>34301
Most like those aren't. Even though on the second link in the image that gentleman looks like a gypsy (especially with that fux thick, seemingly gold necklace in his neck), that pic probably was just grabbed from social media.
The username in that steam link is szutyok which means dirt basically. I think the user wanted to make a joke that "höhö, now I'm gonna make a gypsy account here" or something.


Bernd 01/28/2020 (Tue) 01:17:38 [Preview] No.34304 del
>>34286
Could be that they actually are cognates, they are both Indo-European. The Roman Empire could have been a contributor as well.


Bernd 01/28/2020 (Tue) 06:54:00 [Preview] No.34306 del
>>34304
Arabic is a Semitic language, like Hebrew.


Bernd 01/28/2020 (Tue) 08:39:20 [Preview] No.34307 del
>>34306
Ahh, I had assumed that Semitic was Indo-European as well but it looks like it's not.


Bernd 01/28/2020 (Tue) 09:33:06 [Preview] No.34308 del
>>34242
Slavic names too, for example Kamil (spelled correctly?) is both a Polish and an Arabic name.


Bernd 01/28/2020 (Tue) 22:31:59 [Preview] No.34324 del
>>34242
The truth is the germanics are a Semitic people


Bernd 01/28/2020 (Tue) 23:35:58 [Preview] No.34329 del
>>34308
>Kamil

That isn't truly Slavic name, Just an Roman name that is used in some languages for some reason. It sounds pretty non-Slavic for native speaker, although maybe for west Slavs it looks better.


Bernd 01/29/2020 (Wed) 06:31:58 [Preview] No.34331 del
>>34308
>>34329
We have Kamilla, a flower (white, good tea, Chamomile), for females. I guess, from Latin or Greek.


Bernd 01/29/2020 (Wed) 08:17:31 [Preview] No.34334 del
>>34331

Yes, Kamilla is relatively rare but used name here. But Kamil (as Slavic) is much more rare. It is also interesting, that some names may have only masculine or feminine forms in different languages. For example, west Slavs have feminine form of Vladimir (Vladimira) that is completely absent in Russian and never used.


Bernd 01/29/2020 (Wed) 09:42:41 [Preview] No.34335 del
>>34334
>Vladmira

That's actually quite cute.


Bernd 01/29/2020 (Wed) 10:12:13 [Preview] No.34337 del
>>34293
t. Sarkozy Sega



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