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Bernd 04/15/2020 (Wed) 20:45:46 [Preview] No. 35953
>Our so-called leaders prostituted us to the east, destroyed our culture, our economies, our honour... Our blood has been spilled on our soil; my blood, on their hands. They are the invaders. All Sino-Russian and Mossad forces shall leave Britain immediately, or suffer the consequences.
t. Vlad Kemal Anderson, leader of the English Ultranationalists.


Bernd 04/15/2020 (Wed) 21:02:38 [Preview] No.35957 del
Who is this "Vlad Kemal Anderson" person? Duckduckgo says he is a Danish darts player.
We have an Ekrem-Kemál György.
>Ultranationalists
What that even means nowadays?


Bernd 04/15/2020 (Wed) 21:08:57 [Preview] No.35958 del
>>35957
It's both that, and it's a joke sround Cowadooty, where Imran Zakhaev (an ethnic Chechen) is the leader of the Russian ultranationalists.


Bernd 04/16/2020 (Thu) 20:54:16 [Preview] No.35984 del
11,000,000 people used to live here, now it's a ghost town.


Bernd 04/16/2020 (Thu) 21:30:18 [Preview] No.35986 del
>>35984
REWILDING TIME


Bernd 04/17/2020 (Fri) 06:18:26 [Preview] No.35989 del
>>35984
You know, we all had a good laugh at how disgusting places like China are for eating dogs, cats, bugs and wild birds and not washing hands after toilet but the laughter has fucking stopped. We decided we couldn't be bothered to manage a colonial power anymore so we threw a bunch of money at them hoping they would turn into a civilized people. They had chance after chance, and we thanked our lucky stars we didn't catch bird flu or sars. Now is the time to get serious again, stop buying from China so their economy collapses then reinvade and divide China among the civilized nations of this world.


Bernd 04/17/2020 (Fri) 09:20:59 [Preview] No.35990 del
>>35989
China is a huge problem (and always has been; it even seeks revenge on us) but the virus is a hoax though.
kind of like nuclear weapons themselves


Bernd 04/17/2020 (Fri) 12:59:18 [Preview] No.35991 del
>China will take all of Asia, even if it must stand upon a pile of ashes


Bernd 04/17/2020 (Fri) 13:18:17 [Preview] No.35993 del
>>35986
That would be nice. Or not. I always think of medical problems. Such as what would happen if I would brake my leg? What to do with toothache, or worse when the inflammation spread to the jaw? Hey I got a puppy, oh noes he got the parvo due to lack of vaccination.

>>35989
>not washing hands after toilet
That's a first world problem. All my family, friends, pals, and acquaintances who spent considerable time for whatever reason in any western country says you guys are all unhygienic. Sorry.
>stop buying from China
That's a good point. But I would rephrase that. We should stop worshipping the myth of the necessity of constant economic growth, stop debt slavery, and change consumerist mindset.

>>35991
Ashes are very good fertilizers.


Bernd 04/17/2020 (Fri) 13:31:18 [Preview] No.35994 del
>>35993
Insignificant compared to all the other damage caused by a Chinese invasion. Imagine millions of slave warriors.


Bernd 04/17/2020 (Fri) 15:13:42 [Preview] No.35996 del
>>35993
>We should stop worshipping the myth of the necessity of constant economic growth, stop debt slavery, and change consumerist mindset.

The problem is that it is so heavily engrained in the way or society functions that it's really not possible unless some really radical action is taken. Sure most of the peasants earn a relatively fixed wage regardless but those up top all make their living based on the growth of their investments in some way or another, they need the growth.


Bernd 04/17/2020 (Fri) 19:18:55 [Preview] No.35998 del
>>35993
>We should stop worshipping the myth of the necessity of constant economic growth, stop debt slavery, and change consumerist mindset.
This. Even though radical change would be needed for this.
But also fuck china too


Bernd 04/18/2020 (Sat) 03:48:21 [Preview] No.36001 del
>>35991
>>35991
>China will take all of Asia, even if it must stand upon a pile of ashes

[X] Doubt

They have so many problems compared to ours. They can barely even feed their on people or give them decent jobs. What do you guys honestly think they'll be able to take over?


Bernd 04/18/2020 (Sat) 08:45:47 [Preview] No.36012 del
>>35993
>Sorry, not sorry
hah, it's true though but only after number one. Frankly if you touch anything in a toilet it's covered in shit particles so you need to wash them hands whether you went or not. In China, they don't even wash hands after number two, or even wipe bum. I've seen it.

Frankly I like the Orientals. I can see why Hitler called them honorary but they are acting greedy and foolish and it's causing havoc with our economies and now our health.

Serious question: Why do we do business with China at all? They are a communist state, the reason we didn't do business with the Russians for so many years. I know China has some serious Jewish connections but then so did Russia.


Bernd 04/18/2020 (Sat) 08:49:06 [Preview] No.36013 del
>>36001
>What do you guys honestly think they'll be able to take over?
Let's correct that to *most of Asia. It will be like Germany retaking Poland, tanks versus horses tier combat.


Bernd 04/18/2020 (Sat) 09:14:52 [Preview] No.36014 del
>>36012
>Why do we do business with China at all?
Lots & Cheaps.
They have endless supplies of laborers who will work a handful or rice for 12+ hours a day. Transportation cost is very low due to the volume those giant ship can haul.
And it was a way for the Chinese govt to catch up with the west, so they probably give huge amount of subsidies away, so production can be moved there. Multi corps are above of geopolitics (mostly) they view growth the number one priority. And then their examples are followed everyone below on the food chain down to one man enterprises (I heard about a bookseller, who shipped books to China and ordered prints of those in larger volumes, basically he sold counterfeit books, because it was cheaper than buying them from publishers).


Bernd 04/18/2020 (Sat) 10:02:11 [Preview] No.36015 del
>>36001
They're just sending immigrants there, which gives them a casus belli. They're making nonsensical claims on places like East Kashmir like this is a Paradox game.


Bernd 04/18/2020 (Sat) 20:58:41 [Preview] No.36023 del
>>36012
>>36014

Lower labor cost is one of the factors why China is an industrial leader, but it is not sole factor. It is stereotype that they all work for few dollars and rice - they have better overall wages than many other countries in Asia and Africa. Some comparisons show that wages are often better than in Russia, for example, although it is varying by industry. Chinese labor really cheap in agriculture, but in high-tech it is not that low. Industrial sphere is also not that highly dependent on labor cost - wages aren't largest part of price for many products.

One of biggest reasons why China is good for production is development of industry and better organization at all. There are plenty of companies that will do everything you require, and do this fast and reasonably good. Like when you need to get some electronic device, you just do some quick contracts and in few months everything is assembled an running, because there already a large amount of companies who do mass production and can easily fulfill your request. It is very easy to assemble chain of production from scratch (from your point of view), just order what you need and it will be ready.

Compared to this, production in other countries, including developed western ones, may be harder - sometimes there is need for big investments, and seeking proper contractors may be hard, especially if there is almost no one in your country (like for semiconductors). So company that need to put some product into market may get it after few months from China or after few years from some EU country, spending much money in process. Flexible mass production is very efficient when it works on full speed.

Of course this isn't a miracle - China just has large and established industry, they worked hard for years to achieve it, using government sponsorship, tech steal and many other methods. International companies also helped this much by moving production there. First they moved cheap ones for labor, then it slowly become more efficient to move everything, because it is easier to have everything in one place (from management to control). This is started as licensed productions that was controlled from outside, but now situation is different - China started to do innovation, and now it isn't some Bosch/Siemens/Philips who invent something and just produce it in China, but same company that orders complete product from China, and Chinese do everything. Look at electronics, now half of biggest companies that do design are local Chinese, it isn't outsourcing. And transferring production slowly reduces competence of original company, so soon they couldn't do anything without China at all (we already see this).

This still doesn't work economically when product is so specific so China doesn't have developed industry for it, but amount of these products are small, and China is big. Quality also isn't that good (even when company who does outsource says otherwise), but market doesn't work like it is written in books - people would buy product with worse quality just because it is cheaper, money matters more, that's psychological thing but this if offtopic.

There also specific economical, politica and cultural reasons that doesn't allow other countries to easily become second China, while they sit in same position like China in 80s, but this is also very big topic for discussion.


Bernd 04/19/2020 (Sun) 03:29:58 [Preview] No.36028 del
>>36023
>>36023
>There also specific economical, politica and cultural reasons that doesn't allow other countries to easily become second China, while they sit in same position like China in 80s, but this is also very big topic for discussion

You could just make a second thread here. Sounds really interesting


Bernd 04/19/2020 (Sun) 08:53:00 [Preview] No.36037 del
>>36028

I've tried to start, although part of "why China could and others couldn't" still need to be worked out. I think our Bernd collective would help though.

>>36032


Bernd 04/19/2020 (Sun) 12:09:38 [Preview] No.36054 del
>>36023
>China just has large and established industry
I read an Index article related to this corona epidemic, where they mentioned that over 100 000 Chinese companies had to shut down. And a few line below they wrote about 3 million companies are founded in China per year. This is a huge ass number. I dunno about their longevity and I suspect this number can be thanked to the Chinese govt. to inflate their economy.



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