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Scandinavia Bernd 05/16/2020 (Sat) 17:57:02 [Preview] No. 36770
>>36759
>Northern and Eastern Norway are actually mostly ethnically Danish
Is there any evidence of this?


Bernd 05/17/2020 (Sun) 14:47:04 [Preview] No.36788 del
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As requested, the other thread was deleted as duplicate.
And this is the designated Skandi thread.
What is to be Danish, and how Norwegians are ethnic Danish?


Bernd 05/17/2020 (Sun) 15:12:00 [Preview] No.36789 del
>>36788
Basically, in the black death the native Norwegian population was heavily reduced, a lot of them fleeing to Iceland. Since the Danish king ruled Norway and later incorporated it into Denmark, most local rulers became Danes, many Danish noblemen settled in Norway, and many Danish bastards were sent to northern Norway. This is why the Norwegian language is phonetically Danish:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bokm%C3%A5l
It was only edited by western Norwegians to become
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nynorsk


Bernd 05/17/2020 (Sun) 15:13:18 [Preview] No.36790 del
>>36788
>What is to be Danish
Coming from the Danish tribe. Just like how being Swedish is to come from the Swedish tribe, to be Kazakh is to come from the Kazakh tribe, or to be French is to come from the Frankish tribe.


Bernd 05/17/2020 (Sun) 17:57:35 [Preview] No.36791 del
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What is the essence of Danish existence?


Bernd 05/17/2020 (Sun) 18:42:43 [Preview] No.36793 del
Fun-fact, there used to be a Danish imageboard called DKchan. It's down now and was long-dead anyways, because everyone of value just posted on KC (or Kuvalauta when that existed).


Bernd Board volunteer 05/17/2020 (Sun) 18:53:20 [Preview] No.36794 del
>>36793
Considering how few Danish posters were on Krautchan, and are now on Kohl, DKchan wasn't too crowded. Maybe liek us.


Bernd 05/17/2020 (Sun) 18:55:59 [Preview] No.36795 del
>>36794
Fuuuck. Forgot I logged in.


Bernd 05/17/2020 (Sun) 19:06:18 [Preview] No.36796 del
>>36794
There are only around 5 million people in Denmark as a whole. How many of those people posted on kC? Not a lot probably.


Bernd 05/17/2020 (Sun) 19:12:27 [Preview] No.36797 del
>>36796
>5 million
Haha, what a tiny country.


Bernd 05/17/2020 (Sun) 19:22:14 [Preview] No.36798 del
>>36797
At least that's through a small territory. Sweden only has 10 million and they're 10X as bigger as Denmark. If it had a similar population density to Denmark, then they'd have 50 million, almost as large as France.


Bernd 05/17/2020 (Sun) 19:30:28 [Preview] No.36799 del
>>36798
I was kinda joking. Here it's part of the public thinking that Hungarian is a small nation. But plenty of smaller out there.
Not that we are at comparisons. How many Danish lives in the neighbouring countries. I mean not in the sense that they could count as Danish, but real Danish. Similar to Hungarians all around.


Bernd 05/17/2020 (Sun) 19:47:34 [Preview] No.36800 del
>>36799
Not much live in southern Schleswig excluding Danish descendants, which are all over Germany, the Netherlands and elsewhere. likely in the few hundred thousands in southern Schleswig (former Danish frontier). 90,000 people live in Flensborg alone, whose population is mostly Danish in origin. So probably a few hundred thousand to a million.
Aside from that, Scania, Halland, and Blekinge harbour a population of around 1.5 million combined, former Danish provinces. 2.5 million people live in Eastern Norway, meaning that if we were to count these former Danes as Danes today, there are around 4 million of them, almost as much as there are Danes proper in Denmark.
By the way, England (technically Danes in origin) as a nation harbours 50,000,000 people in comparison. They


Bernd 05/17/2020 (Sun) 20:06:05 [Preview] No.36801 del
Which is the stronkest Skandi Navy?


Bernd 05/17/2020 (Sun) 20:21:23 [Preview] No.36802 del
>>36801
Any of the three main ones.
>Sweden
https://youtube.com/watch?v=saCdvAp5cow [Embed]


Bernd 05/17/2020 (Sun) 20:46:32 [Preview] No.36805 del
>>36801
>Which is the stronkest Skandi Navy?

Sweden, unironically

Historically too


Bernd 05/18/2020 (Mon) 02:02:42 [Preview] No.36809 del
>>36788
I've never seen danish dress like that, nor a style of mask like that coming from Europe. Interesting.
>>36790
Is it true that Skanelanders are from Geats, rather than Danes?


Bernd 05/18/2020 (Mon) 06:04:28 [Preview] No.36812 del
>>36809
That's a Greenlander and those are Eskimo traditions, only jokingly called Danish.
>Geats
Okay, I'm going to have to explain some stuff now; it doesn't go back to the initial ethnogenesis of the Goths, but to that of the Danes:
Those are the people in-between Skåne and Svealand in the North Sea coast, and they're descendants of the Goths. So Skåne is as Danish as Sjælland is, though the northwestern parts are indeed more Gothic or Swedish than Danish. Meanwhile Bornholm is actually Burgundaholm, so they're Burgundians, and I suspect that the region of Kalmar is where the Lombards (or Langobards) originally came from.
Danes claim descent from king Dan (whom Saxo Grammaticus mentions), like how Scots claim descent from Scotia, or how Romans claim descent from Romulus. Dan had a brother named Angul who would later found the Angles in southern Schleswig, these would later become the English and the North Frisians. It's a known Danish territory as well, as the old capital Hedeby was located there (which is now part of southern Schleswig, which thus means that southern Schleswig is still rightfully Danish). Then there are the Jutes (Jyder/Jyskere which apparently also means "you shit" in Frisian) and the Cimbrians, said to be unrelated. It's known that the Cimbrians were Celtic-speaking and that their root lies in the Cimmerians (and many subsets of the Danes are said to be Celtic in origin as well). Jutes meanwhile, nobody really knows. Some less educated people say they're really jews, but the word is actually another word for giant, which also sometimes means jews? Anyways, they've been linked to the Eudoses, Eotenas, Eucii, and Euthiones, apparently more Saxon tribes, and likely the "Teutones" that the Romans had to deal with. More likely than not, the Cheruscii as well as all of these northwestern German tribes that aren't Frisians or Franks are all subsets of the Saxons. In the islands there were a tribe called the Herulii who later migrated into Rome, and then the Huns came, the Danes helped them, they got beaten to hell anyways.
Anyways, the Schleswig region was both "Anglish" and Danish, whereas Skåne was more-so Danish than Gothic. It's said that the Danes of Jylland/Fyn (not the north Frisians who are Angles or the Germans there who are Jutes) are "southern Danes" whereas the ones of Sjælland and Skåne are "northern Danes". What to say, since maps were displayed differently back then? And of course, the Dacians and Danes were conflated. Dacia (see Jacabo Daciano) is said to be a combination of "Dania" and "Suecia" (Sweden) used by the Latin church, but then again, in Russian, the word for Danish is "Datskiy", but in older Russian (I'm talking before Peter I messed everything up), Danish was "Dakskiy", meaning to the Orthodox Russians Danes were actually Dacians.
Also, some trivia: the old royal Danish title was "King of Danes, Goths and Wends". Goths inhabited parts of Skåne, and the Wends were subject of the Danes via the old continental holdings. Wolin, Poland was Jomsborg in medieval times, which was where ethnically Wendish but Norse-speaking mercenaries came from, and the Duchy of Pomerania was formerly under Danish control.


Bernd 05/18/2020 (Mon) 09:49:46 [Preview] No.36817 del
>>36801
The Finish because they captured and still own a British ship and therefore they are stronger than Britain.


Bernd 05/18/2020 (Mon) 16:25:18 [Preview] No.36829 del
>>36817
Scary.


Bernd 05/18/2020 (Mon) 17:35:14 [Preview] No.36833 del
>>36809
That's 1488% traditional native Danish apparel and folk art.


Bernd 05/18/2020 (Mon) 19:35:09 [Preview] No.36841 del
>>36812
>And of course, the Dacians and Danes were conflated. Dacia (see Jacabo Daciano) is said to be a combination of "Dania" and "Suecia" (Sweden) used by the Latin church, but then again, in Russian, the word for Danish is "Datskiy", but in older Russian (I'm talking before Peter I messed everything up), Danish was "Dakskiy", meaning to the Orthodox Russians Danes were actually Dacians.
Paging Bogdan...


Bernd 05/18/2020 (Mon) 19:40:38 [Preview] No.36843 del
>>36841
I was going to play some jokes on that. But there are other stuff I wanted reflect too, so I postponed and you shot it down. Good job, I kekkered.


Bernd 05/18/2020 (Mon) 21:13:24 [Preview] No.36847 del
>>36789
but what I'm wondering is if there's evidence (besides the use of bokmal) that Danes actually ethnically replaced Norwegians in Norway, and not just that tghe Norwegian population was reduced and danes immigrated there.


Bernd 05/18/2020 (Mon) 22:00:06 [Preview] No.36849 del
>>36847
Northern Norway was hardly settled by western Norwegians before it was settled by Danish bastards. The current frontier between Norway and Russia (specifically Petsamo, which although used to be a part of Finland, wasn't a part of it under Swedish rule) was only established in 1326, with no real Norwegian settlers existing there. After the black death which killed off most of Norway, a Danish migrant population would subdue both the Sami near the region, and the earlier Norwegian settlers.
Don't get me wrong, eastern Norway is still somewhat "Norse" whatever that tribe may be in origin (as it's unclear compared to that of the Danes), but northern Norway was settled by Danes. In a similar fashion, Norrland was apparently settled chiefly by Goths with only some Svear joining in, which might explain why they aren't typically as light-complexioned as Swedes from Svealand (aside from Sami admixture).


Bernd 05/20/2020 (Wed) 18:01:54 [Preview] No.36866 del
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>>36812
>Danes claim descent from king Dan
Just wait until I tell this to the NEETs.
>Saxo Grammaticus
>how Scots claim descent from Scotia
>how Romans claim descent from Romulus
I wonder how much pseudo-mythology was created by people with latin/ecclesiastical education. Or how much is actually original in them, how much was reinterpreted to fit their knowledge base and taste.
I mean we also have the Hunor-Magor sibling ancestor myth, which basically an anthropomorphisation (and a simplification) of the relation between the Huns and Magyars. Written by a priest (maybe a canon, maybe even a bishop). Other motifs in the story are totemistic (deer and turul ancestors) and probably more authentic than this.


Bernd 05/20/2020 (Wed) 18:08:54 [Preview] No.36867 del
>>36866
>I wonder how much pseudo-mythology was created by people with latin/ecclesiastical education.
That's the mainstream account of what these claims are, but it's probable that these are real people. Keep in mind that the Romans themselves claim descent from Aeneas of Troy. Troy was located in western Anatolia, and the destruction of Troy is now confirmed to have been true during the "Bronze Age collapse" and the Greek dark age. There was likely a migration from Troy to Italy (which was then "barbarian" to say the least of it), including both the Etruscans and I guess the Romans.


Bernd 05/21/2020 (Thu) 05:50:05 [Preview] No.36872 del
>>36867
>Romans themselves claim descent from Aeneas of Troy
Well, according to Vergilius at least.
For me it all sounds very Biblical, Shem, Ham and Japhet style. In fact the ethnic origin explanation's from the middle ages were very Biblical. I wouldn't be surprised if someone would noted that Dan was the grand-grandson of Japhet. Maybe even Saxo.
Haha, I just remembered there's a Dan dude among the Jews, son of Jacob, one of their tribes was named after them. Probably there were dudes who tried to tie Danes to them. Well Vikings were considerable merchants for sure, their raiding stuff was just a hobby to pass time.



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