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Forget it, man, with the manipulation argument.

Manipulation connotes interacting with people in a way that treats them as objects (so you can move em where ya want em--like chess pieces).
Trying to sell them something they would not buy if they knew what you were trying to do.
Not grounded in love and respect.
Grounded in something else.

>Logic and facts NO NOT WORK on Leftists.
Then try the opposite: letting them see the ILLOGIC of dems.
Dems are crazy now. And my frens run into them everywhere--people telling them over lunch that planes are evil.
Teachers hearing from the union the kids aren't learning bc of white privilege. Both true stories.

I don't have to argue. All i have to do
is make them curious.