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Mario Nawfal @MarioNawfal - Video: “UKRAINE’S WAR CAN ONLY END IF PUTIN OR KYIV FALL”
2 radically different visions of the Ukraine war.
2 starkly opposed truths.
In a fiery debate, Jonathan Fink (@CurtainSilicon) and Mark Sleboda (@MarkSleboda1) lay out why a peace deal may never come, and why neither side is ready to stop fighting.
Jonathan argues Putin doesn’t want territory, he wants a failed Ukraine.
A democratic Ukraine, he says, is a threat to Putin’s regime, because it offers Russians an alternative: “They tried democracy… and it worked.”
Mark fires back: the U.S. provoked this war and is now trying to force “peace on American terms.”
He insists Russia is winning, not just against Kyiv, but against the entire West: “They’ve run out of ammo. We haven’t.”
We get into:
•⁠ ⁠Whether Russia wants all of Ukraine, or just to neutralize it.
•⁠ ⁠Why the West keeps pushing ceasefires Russia rejects.
•⁠ ⁠NATO expansion, proxy war narratives, and regime survival.
•⁠ ⁠Why both Trump and Biden failed to deter escalation.
•⁠ ⁠The fight over Ukraine’s media, and who funds what.
•⁠ ⁠Is it about democracy vs. autocracy, or something deeper?
•⁠ ⁠Why both say nuclear escalation is a real risk.