>>67086
Always have been, but I'm not "anti" anything, I only recognize what is right and wrong, true or false, and I try to tell others. Keeping people from doing wrong things by force or ignorance is not saving them.

I also slightly differ on the view that there is only salvation in the pact with Christ, I understand you can deal directly with God but its a dangerous road. In the catholic lore, that would be the route of the Christian Mystic, which the church used to accept for all, but now they only recognize it for certain priests of certain orders.

I think its unavoidable that we will take the longest route through all the sins to get to the answer, but that is ok and we may as well enjoy it.