>>2372
>His arrogance put him in hell for pressing a button.
Guess its time to think more before trying any of my ideas then, the ones that I throw here are things that if I did them, they would not be nearly as effective as to what you 2 can do AFAIK, as in they can't even be compared. Our gap in understanding/knowledge is way too big.
I tried to install the demon guard today and felt something, will try again later just to be sure, since I don't wanna end up like that guy.

>>2373
I see. My idea was not to use it like she did though, she used the "refinement" on a grudge, my idea was to make a much weaker similar version of it(that should be healthy and balanced) and that could only be used on a quality that one wishes to develop.
Don't worry, I do know that her power is very dangerous and would never attempt to do what she did with it.

>Are you even talking to her? She can teach you these.
She's around but I don't know how to talk with her currently, other than having a friend channel her. I need to improve my stamina to get better astral hearing and I'm still not free of the little guy that Lucifuge sent me, so I don't trust voices in my head since the thing is a deciever in multiple ways, he is invisible to me and if he appears, its either a form that I don't recognize or uses some sort of illusory disguise. [Spoiler]To be honest I avoid her, I don't know if I should ask her to teach me stuff because I worry about how it would go. VK warns that "She may offer gifts which the witch is often better off not accepting"[/Spoiler] and I think my focus should be on getting rid of the "boy" and then kundalini.

>First you need to "discover" your own mindwaves. The remote is good for this. And manipulating the mindwaves of others is easy
Oh, the manipulating of mindwaves is not something that I would use on others (if I could do that), unless they wanted me to help them get in a trance or something, messing with other peoples minds is not something that I plan on doing, my idea was to use it to improve my meditations.