Went into the fancy camping shop on the way at the last minute before they closed for the long weekend. There were heaps of healthy vegan eaters there all wearing swank out doors wear. I bought a belt on an impulse for $60 without trying it out. Its too stiff and too big and I would have had second thoughts or maybe got the medium but the sales chad told me to shut up and took my money. I have mild ragrets. I blame subliminal messaging on the store audio.