I first met tiffin when we were just free booters in the movement back when Enrst Zundel was making waves over in far flug parts of the commonwealth canada let me tell you that there were basically zero ladies around who wouldn't look upon us like we were doing, how you call it now costume play as fantasists or children might. Unlike today where there is a bevy of traditionalist T.H.O.T.S. for every single man marching under the black and red banner. Quite the drought we experienced, him and I.