Bernd
03/25/2021 (Thu) 08:42:03
No.43095
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03/25/2021 (Thu) 08:42:03
No.43095
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They have many subsidiaries and divisions some of them involving Space. But they are still working on far more than Space X or even all Musk's companies combined. It's hard to say how much they each spend on their space programs(not individual rockets) and what they get out of that, I could not find it.
>That is the reason why he is a good manager - doing crazy things and keeping company afloat. It is pretty hard to innovate anyway, if you consider the risks and trying to do only safe actions. Stagnating companies may innovate only in new forms of payment management bonuses.
Yes it's the reason they are where they are now but as I said, they have only just made a profit after all of this time and that was controversial and in a new market that is about to see some serious competition so it's too soon still to tell whether this has been a success or not.
>Main error of modern management class is concentrating only about profits. Using only profits calculation you can't even build anything that doesn't provide financial gain in few years (big infrastructure for example). That is why USA uses government subsidies for anything big and nonprofitable, from dams to rockets
True, I agree but there has to be results from that in the end, it's still too soon to tell.
>Personally I don't like Tesla, but their actions made automotive market moving. Even Germans who sat on the top now are slightly afraid. You actually said same things in the rest of the your message.
The market is moving but I'm not sure how much of that I would attribute to Tesla, it was always heading this way as I said Tesla didn't even release the first electric car let alone hybrid. This has been a long time in the making and the push for it was always there. It's just that it takes time for large manufacturers to adopt early technology like that on scale.
>It is also fun to see that companies like Ford cry about low "car" sales (in US terms, where car is sedan/hatchback and non-car is crossover/SUV) and stop making their legendary models, continuing to produce only non-distinguishable coffin-like SUVs. Meanwhile one of most popular cars in USA is mid-sized sedan made by Tesla. This proves that these old companies just can't make good cars but blaming the market and consumers.
They have many subsidiaries and divisions some of them involving Space. But they are still working on far more than Space X or even all Musk's companies combined. It's hard to say how much they each spend on their space programs(not individual rockets) and what they get out of that, I could not find it.
>That is the reason why he is a good manager - doing crazy things and keeping company afloat. It is pretty hard to innovate anyway, if you consider the risks and trying to do only safe actions. Stagnating companies may innovate only in new forms of payment management bonuses.
Yes it's the reason they are where they are now but as I said, they have only just made a profit after all of this time and that was controversial and in a new market that is about to see some serious competition so it's too soon still to tell whether this has been a success or not.
>Main error of modern management class is concentrating only about profits. Using only profits calculation you can't even build anything that doesn't provide financial gain in few years (big infrastructure for example). That is why USA uses government subsidies for anything big and nonprofitable, from dams to rockets
True, I agree but there has to be results from that in the end, it's still too soon to tell.
>Personally I don't like Tesla, but their actions made automotive market moving. Even Germans who sat on the top now are slightly afraid. You actually said same things in the rest of the your message.
The market is moving but I'm not sure how much of that I would attribute to Tesla, it was always heading this way as I said Tesla didn't even release the first electric car let alone hybrid. This has been a long time in the making and the push for it was always there. It's just that it takes time for large manufacturers to adopt early technology like that on scale.
>It is also fun to see that companies like Ford cry about low "car" sales (in US terms, where car is sedan/hatchback and non-car is crossover/SUV) and stop making their legendary models, continuing to produce only non-distinguishable coffin-like SUVs. Meanwhile one of most popular cars in USA is mid-sized sedan made by Tesla. This proves that these old companies just can't make good cars but blaming the market and consumers.
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