Bernd
10/12/2021 (Tue) 14:37:22
No.45267
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10/12/2021 (Tue) 14:37:22
No.45267
del
>>45252
But how far could they reasonably be expected to go from there mothership? There mothership is almost the size of a ship, they are huge. Bikes like this >>45260 make sense because they are just can be used for long distance and are really just a form of transport I remember reading somewhere that they enabled soldiers to carry much more wight but also the Truppenführung gives some figures of marching speed for commanders to use. Large units with related weapons and such 4kph, infantry is 5 kph, infantry in small groups 6kph, mounted troops at the trot and walk 7kph, mounted troops at the trot 10 kph, Bicycles 12 kph, motor vehicles 30 kph and motor bicycles 40kph. So they can actually outpace horses, but that would only be on open road, a horse is better for cross country recon hence why some nations still use them. If they are operating short distances from an huge APC then there operation effectiveness will be minimal and the APC they come from could easily be found or heard even if the e bikes cannot be.
>>45260
>>45262
People in the ground are always going to have a better feel than drones, even land based drones. Actually being somewhere is far better than looking at something on a screen, you could notice far more small details that you might miss on a monitor like tracks and very well hidden positions. But then thermal cameras can easily pick things out as well and with the way modern armies work being mechanised or at least motorised it probably would not be hard to find them. Sure there are ways to shield a position from thermal view but that involves setting up and is not really something that can be done on the move so the drone would spot the unit moving into position, but then of course the drone operator might be lulled into a false sense of security due to this and think nothing is out there when in fact there is some new and advanced technology that is just defeating there optics that they don't know about.
But all in all I think infantry is obsolete for gathering intelligence stealthy, an ebike or man on foot can easily be picked up with thermal and a drone can find more than he can. But IFVs and infantry are still useful for force recon.
But how far could they reasonably be expected to go from there mothership? There mothership is almost the size of a ship, they are huge. Bikes like this >>45260 make sense because they are just can be used for long distance and are really just a form of transport I remember reading somewhere that they enabled soldiers to carry much more wight but also the Truppenführung gives some figures of marching speed for commanders to use. Large units with related weapons and such 4kph, infantry is 5 kph, infantry in small groups 6kph, mounted troops at the trot and walk 7kph, mounted troops at the trot 10 kph, Bicycles 12 kph, motor vehicles 30 kph and motor bicycles 40kph. So they can actually outpace horses, but that would only be on open road, a horse is better for cross country recon hence why some nations still use them. If they are operating short distances from an huge APC then there operation effectiveness will be minimal and the APC they come from could easily be found or heard even if the e bikes cannot be.
>>45260
>>45262
People in the ground are always going to have a better feel than drones, even land based drones. Actually being somewhere is far better than looking at something on a screen, you could notice far more small details that you might miss on a monitor like tracks and very well hidden positions. But then thermal cameras can easily pick things out as well and with the way modern armies work being mechanised or at least motorised it probably would not be hard to find them. Sure there are ways to shield a position from thermal view but that involves setting up and is not really something that can be done on the move so the drone would spot the unit moving into position, but then of course the drone operator might be lulled into a false sense of security due to this and think nothing is out there when in fact there is some new and advanced technology that is just defeating there optics that they don't know about.
But all in all I think infantry is obsolete for gathering intelligence stealthy, an ebike or man on foot can easily be picked up with thermal and a drone can find more than he can. But IFVs and infantry are still useful for force recon.