Bernd
11/21/2025 (Fri) 15:51
No.54853
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11/21/2025 (Fri) 15:51
No.54853
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>>54852
Thinking about the recognition of "de facto" Russian control. The fuck Russia cares about this. They are happy controlling Crimea away since 2014 and spend 0 time on crying about why the USA doesn't recognize their de facto control. So from the Russian point of view they are given nothing.
And. They don't want to leave some issues unresolved. From Odessa Ukraine can endanger the whole Russian Black Sea shipping. If I was the Kremlin, I would be a huge fugging building. Also would not want Ukraine to control to have that important sea port. Plus land bridge to Transnistria.
And. It is clear already what Western promises and guarantees and agreements and treaties worth. See: Minsk.
So I do agree with such opinions that Russia want to look like the reasonable party so they can blame Zelensky and the West again for the failure of the negotiation, and push more.
Also another party that might not want the war to end: China. It profits from both sides, by selling shit directly, plus gets Russian resources on discount, plus enjoys the US squirming powerlessly like a senile invalid.
Thinking about the recognition of "de facto" Russian control. The fuck Russia cares about this. They are happy controlling Crimea away since 2014 and spend 0 time on crying about why the USA doesn't recognize their de facto control. So from the Russian point of view they are given nothing.
And. They don't want to leave some issues unresolved. From Odessa Ukraine can endanger the whole Russian Black Sea shipping. If I was the Kremlin, I would be a huge fugging building. Also would not want Ukraine to control to have that important sea port. Plus land bridge to Transnistria.
And. It is clear already what Western promises and guarantees and agreements and treaties worth. See: Minsk.
So I do agree with such opinions that Russia want to look like the reasonable party so they can blame Zelensky and the West again for the failure of the negotiation, and push more.
Also another party that might not want the war to end: China. It profits from both sides, by selling shit directly, plus gets Russian resources on discount, plus enjoys the US squirming powerlessly like a senile invalid.