>>11353
It technically contradicts what is said in MYM, but might be going closer to the show's bible, so while part of me just wants to dismiss it as worthless comic canon it still is possibly something that is influential. If G5 doesn't just kick the bucket in a year or two with no follow up.

>>11987 (crosspost)
...and honestly with the combined contexts of the final Season of FiM, and some of the implications of G5, Twilight Sparkle might be the more tragic character now.

I still feel very conflicted on G5 death.

>>12125
As much as I feel more soured on it from what it implied with Twilight and the others. I don't think I completely hate the characters or concepts but execution left a lot to be desired. Looking back, perhaps the biggest waste was that BOTH the netflix series and YT shorts were dumbed down compared to FiM. Thus they didn't have a shot of inheriting both kids who grew up with FiM and the some larger chuck of the fandom.

>>11226
Surprised I missed this post.

>The earnest fans of the show I've seen seem quite passionate about it, and that's in spite of the obvious strong hatred the show received from the fandom. So I can't help but respect people who not only love something so hate
>and that was with a huge supportive fandom still left intact. What the G5 fans are going to do and where they're going to go, I've no idea
A big question I have is how separated G5 and G4 fans are. I know there is an overlap but I've seen talk of a lot of G5 fans being zoomers who have a distaste for the old G4 fandom to some extent but I don't know if these are real dynamics or half made up dynamics that are more complicated Like, eh, Skibidi Toilet, the supposed "gen alpha" meme that is made by an old source film maker guy, any ol' person who even was partly familiar with SFM videos would know how surreal those could be at times.

>By which I mean not just that the sooner we get G6 the sooner we'll see which one of these it will be, but the sooner we get G6, if it's bad, the sooner we'll get G7 too, and G8 and so on until they bury the franchise, or manage to make it into something again.
That is like the most optimistic take on the corporate milking cycle. I am, while not completely cynical, more skeptical anything new from the franchise could ever hold my interest. Yet I get the sentiment. I have been debating going through and reviewing Pony Life. Even if it is kind of stupid and low quality, maybe I would be inspired by meme fuel or something. Some fun could still be had.

I tried watching the pilot for the series, but it was so annoying that I did not finish it. It reminded me of kids' cartoons from the early nineties where the characters talked like auctioneers, there were lights flashing everywhere, and everything reeked of old people trying to pander to the younger generation with ham-fisted tropes (now it's cellphones and live streaming; back then it was skateboards and video game consoles). The killer is that I could have gotten into the universe otherwise. The world has an interesting premise, enough that I could have even gotten beyond my distaste for 3DCG.

I can appreciate trying to cultivate new fans. G5 needed to do that after the G4 fanbase took a nosedive off a cliff about half-way through its run. Unfortunately, the formula they went with to do so is a painfully familiar one that was obviously developed by a marketing department. There is no myth to it and, like the premise itself, no magic.

>>12168
>I know this episode is used to give context to potential trollestia/tyrantestia in canon, and while it is certainly meme fuel I partly disagree. While Celestia showed a joking side here."Gotcha!" and her little tea prank while Mr and Mrs Cake were fussing over her. I think the dynamic of this episode is that Princess Celestia is actually pretty laid back and everyone takes her roll as the immortal monarch of the realm a bit too seriously. I do agree it is a bit weird she didn't immediately explain Philomena but I don't think it crosses over into troll territory. She was soon interrupted by Mayor Mare's request with a personal audience after all.
Absolutely. And from how the Summer Sun Celebration is treated both in the pilot and Cutie Mark Chronicles, I feel as though the pageantry of Celestia's rulership is almost more for the pony's sake than for Celestia's. Perhaps part of that is education and the culture of the past 1000 years, but I still get at least the impression that Celestia's political and social power stems primarily from the extremely high regard that almost all ponies hold her in.
>The fandom started to play into that, and in some cases, really ask, why would Twilight be so afraid of banishment? I think here it is more of the innocence of this setting here and Twilight's obsessive personality over any basis for anything rational in universe.
Twilight herself admits she doesn't think that would happen - if she of all people had reason to think it really could happen she could just cite her reasons why, I'm sure she has a fairly good understanding of the Equestrian legal system, especially since she's still technically a kind of public servant.
>>12169
>Correct me if I am wrong, but, I think this was Philomena's only appearance in the show.
I certainly don't remember her appearing again - but even background appearances could count. Another thing to keep eyes open for going forward.
>Agreed. Presumably they do exist.
There will be precedent for imprisonment with Discord - a bold statement I could make so far for this first season is that we don't actually KNOW that imprisonment even exists in Equestria. It seems like a sort of societal universal, but at least at this stage in the show perhaps it's not necessary to criminally punish ponies. In fact, even after Discord I think it will be a while before we see a criminal or wrongdoing pony.
>I think Celestia certainly is a powerful monarch, with absolute power on paper, but perhaps delegates/treaties govern Equestria in a slightly "confederal" structure. This goes into somewhat later season contexts though. I think she has that type of power even if she doesn't always use it in practice.
The fact that Luna is a co-ruler already hints at that federal/confederal structure, so I agree there. Plus I think with her absolutism, negative interpretations of Celestia obviously emphasize it but even if we take the most charitable and positive interpretation of Celestia, her subjects are so adoring of her that I cannot imagine many of them being willing to circumvent or limit or oversee any of her powers as ruler. Given her position both in the eyes of her subjects and as a being as powerful as she is, Celestia's really always going to have to exercise her own restraint in governing with a light hand no matter what. Since we clearly see that government structures are far from overbearing in Equestria, I think it's fair to say that speaks to how she prefers to govern.
>For me it has to be until proven otherwise. Considering this is Season 1, we don't really have evidence of any pony political powers with some antonomy outside of Celestia and I think it would be reasonable to assume all ponies are her subjects.
I would agree, but for the attention given to Appleoosa's flag and their ability to essentially start a war with the Buffalo without consulting any higher official. If they are part of Equestria, it's on paper and not so much in reality, they're clearly extremely autonomous. I see Appleloosa as like an unincorporated territory.

>>12136
I absolutely loved this episode. It was the first episode that I watched, and it immediately made me like Rarity who comes across as an absolute bro when she rescues (and accidentally dooms) her best friend on stage despite her own jealousy. In a show about friendship, that was peak.

I also enjoyed Anna Wintour with Arnold Schwartzenegger's Austrian-Californian accent. Whenever the subject of fashion came up in the show, the writers, animators, and voice actresses would regularly insert their own caricatures of industry figures, and this episode was full of them. The were in-jokes that flew over the heads of 90+% of the audience.
>From there, we get into just… All the part of the episode where Fluttershy’s doing it because Rarity urged her to, hating it all the while, and Rarity getting jealous in spite of causing it, thinking she only urged Fluttershy to do the star stuff out of generosity and not comprehending the idea that Fluttershy might hate it. This type of dragged-out-misunderstanding stuff is something I really just can’t stand wherever it pops up
Yeah, one thing that I did dislike about the episode--and it was a complaint that I had about several Season 1 episodes--was how utterly frustrating Fluttershy often was. Just say something instead of dragging the story on by being a wimp until the last possible second! Why did she even think that Rarity was goading her on? Of course it's because she wants her friend to succeed. I get that Fluttershy is a push-over, but how could she miss that?

>>12168
>Usually not a fan of Angel, but I do like how he here is firm with Fluttershy to get her to go to the brunch with Princess Celestia, and we get the impression that this is something he’s used to having to do with Fluttershy.
I really wish that we could have gotten more of this version of Angel Bunny, even if the pimp hand was funny.
>Fluttershy fussing over Philomena was fun, I see an alternative episode where this could've been some sort of lesson on animals departing and accepting loss, but as is, I enjoyed it.
That had been the original intention, so that figures.
>Now, this is where Tyrantestia comes into play as Twilight rattles off potential punishments. The fandom started to play into that, and in some cases, really ask, why would Twilight be so afraid of banishment? I think here it is more of the innocence of this setting here and Twilight's obsessive personality over any basis for anything rational in universe.
Twilight's punishment fantasy is likely Twilight being an irrational bundle of nerves, but it does establish that dungeons and banishment are things that are not unknown to the tiny horses, and given that Celestia had reigned for a thousand years it would seem likely that she herself would have prescribed those punishments at some point in history. There is some lampshading in the show's humor in Season 1, but Faust's Equestria was a fairly narratively consistent place where the society's inner workings were hinted at when not outright stated. Also consider that imprisonment and banishment, while certainly unpleasant, were less brutal than Queen Majesty's apparently lethal punishments from Gen 1. Gen 1 ponies were on-the-sly metal like that. It would figure if Faust, Gen 1 fangirl that she is, retained some of that early-80s brutality.
>This not only places Celestia as an somewhat of motherly authority figure which is the roll she is sort of playing, but this is the strongest I've seen it.
There is another interpretation there, namely that Fluttershy actually is a child and Celestia is just calling her what she is. To quote Faust in her show bible, "(O)ur ponies, though independent, have an emotional range of anywhere between 10 and 15 with most seemingly about 12." The Season 1 Mane Six were early adolescents. If you look at the episode within that context, it makes a lot more sense. It's why Mr. and Mrs. Cake were handling the real prep for the brunch while the Six were mostly just getting in the way and being silly. It's why the moral of the story is about asking for permission before trying to do the right thing. It's why Fluttershy's care-giving for Philomena is so pediatric in nature.
>>12169
>This could easily be headcanoned, if not an outright logical inference, that Fluttershy pictured the recent experience when imagining a dungeon.
Good point. I can see that.

>>12176
>The zipline opening is funny and a quintessential CMC trademark of ill-advized antics, enjoyable to see as always! Scootaloo also mentions that Spike told her that ziplining is awesome, and I could definitely see Canterlot having ziplining.
Now that you mention it, that makes sense. You have this city on terraces attached to the side of a mountain, and most of its residents cannot fly. They have balloons for traveling upward and presumably downward, but ziplines would be a faster and more practical method of traveling downward. From there, it would stand to reason that Spike would know quite a bit about them despite being a toddler.
>Fluttershy in her flashback appears to be older than Applejack was in hers, and that’s where we start to get the whole comparative age debate with the Mane 6 – although most of the others seem around the same age so perhaps Fluttershy is just lanky or got an early growth spurt.
See: above. We know that Fluttersy is a year older than Pinkie Pie, and that is the only thing that we know about them age-wise from the show itself and not the word of Faust. Even there, we do not know if that is a human year or a horse year, which is rather significant for fillies in terms of development. Another possible reason for Little Fluttershy's unusual size is that Faust had originally wanted the ponies to have different body types but the idea got scrapped due to budget constraints Thus Little Fluttershy's height was a call-back to that early concept. I have heard it mentioned (can't recall where) that Rainbow Dash was originally supposed to be very short.
>When her horn starts acting on it’s own, Rarity mentions how unicorn magic doesn’t happen without a reason and connects it to her destiny when it brings her to a boulder, suggesting an interconnection between magical talent and cutie marks within unicorns.
"Dumb rock" began Rarity's rocky romantic relationship with large mineral deposits. I love it just for that.
>In Twilight’s flashback, we learn of her eagerness to see Princess Celestia to raise the sun, and how this inspired her to pursue magic for herself, which I think goes some way to explaining Twilight’s sometimes quite extreme loyalty and devotion to Celestia, as well as the neuroses that sometimes crop up from that as a result.
It is notable that this is a wildly different origin story than Twilight Twinkle's which involved a late-night study session after she had already become Celestia's student.
>The Sonic Rainboom has some rather odd and mysterious properties and I don’t feel like we actually know all that much about it (it’s referred to as an ‘old mare’s tale’ after all), but I still feel it would be a stretch to say it can actually imbue a previously weaker unicorn with some of the strongest powers that we regularly get to see in the show, even IF that’s the interpretation that was in mind when the scene was made. So long as that connection isn’t explicit, I’m happy going with more or less any alternative.
I honestly do not know why they went with the Sonic Rainboom for Rainbow Dash's cutie mark story. It does give the six main characters a connection, but was that even necessary? I greatly prefer the original concept where Rainbow Dash flies fast enough to create a vapor trail that causes a rainbow to appear. The idea was that pegasus ponies gathered bunches of clouds to create rainbows that would then serve as solid bridges, which is why Cloudsdale looks the way it does. Apart from just shamelessly ripping off Olympus from Disney's Hercules, that is.

Hey guys.
With how internet goes to shit globally felt like surfing again, glad to see mares around.

>>12179
Howdy, how things going for you?

For me,hanging in there. Potential genetic disorder/nerve compression/autoimmune aside

>>12179
Hiya anon. I hope you are doing okay! Anything interesting happen to you since your last visit around here?

>>12180
Do you still have no idea what is causing... whatever it is? From what I can tell from your posts, it sounds neurological. Do they have any idea?

My status is: pic related; trying to enjoy the summer while I still can.

>>12181
PoLS to the board.

>, it sounds neurological. Do they have any idea?
Have gone from thinking neurosurgery from some type of compression to considering several genetic diseases, but admit it's a shot in the dark and if I do have something it probably isn't too bad. I still haven't ruled out anything personally.

>>12186
Gosh, that sounds like it's been a roller coaster.

Gameloft interpretation is one of the few fun things to come from that game.

>>12170
every live-action adaptation has been terrible. Also China, which is terrible.
Though the BilliBilli vids that filter through are cute, but I don't think I'd pay to see this movie.

>>12171
>every live-action adaptation has been terrible.
Agreed. I don't know if the worst case scenario is some sort of ponies in earth setting or humans in Equestria filled with uncanny CGI that may or may not be cartoonish whimsical or channeling the "live action" Lion King adaption.

>Also China, which is terrible.
I think China has a small, small sliver of a chance of making the movie less bad, but them jumping through hoops to look good/get past the censors in the Chinese market probably would digest me.

>but I don't think I'd pay to see this movie.
I am officially in wait till I know more but 95% chance I think it's going to be something of the above and thus in a similar boat.

>>12172
>I think China has a small, small sliver of a chance of making the movie less bad

It's interesting, what catches on in other countries/cultures.
https://twibooru.org/search?q=bilibili+source
If they'd just hire an administrator and pull in the best of the fan works, we could build a gen6 to be proud of.

But that would call into question what it means to own a cartoon, in addition to having a timeline the globalists with the purse strings hadn't had a chance to vet first.

>>12173
Like, that exact moment on the campaign trail.
Why do the Chinese NEETs care so much?

>>12172
I feel like I might be in the minority but I think HiE is better than PiE. Because there is a chance that the movie could still be somewhat whimsical and at least trying to be fun over POP CULTURE! Say what you want about the Minecraft Movie, it's shit but at least it had fun being MINDCRAFT! in a way that was better than X cartoon character in the real world scenarios have.

>>12173
>If they'd just hire an administrator and pull in the best of the fan works, we could build a gen6 to be proud of.
Hasbro has killed most of their creative team and is hot water and they don't have much to lose at this point but I feel like we are going to go through a phase of retarded cash grab boomer focus groups first before we see anything truly good and Hasbro may die and then some fans might actually make a horse franchise that is worthy spiritual successor that can easily get away with almost copyright infringing characters.

>>8721
>Here's to hoping the princesses win decisively; Littlepip won't always be that little.
Here here! /) and I hope your year has been doing you well!

>We're in the middle of what some in my circle are pronouncing twenty twenty free.
Do you still say two thousand? It is interesting as I still pronounce that way, sometimes... I suppose it is a hold over in a similar sense of still saying "video taping" over simply "recording". Albeit I am probably a little two young for either.

I wonder what burden Celestia did carry. Have heavy did it way on her? How much her soul was guilt ridden and defeated from it all.

>>9627
It was a heavy weight and I think all things considered, she did win in the /end/.

>>12117
*didn't mean to post that yet

𝔖𝔞𝔶𝔦𝔫𝔤 𝔤𝔬𝔢𝔰 𝔱𝔥𝔞𝔱 𝔴𝔥𝔢𝔫 𝔶𝔬𝔲'𝔯𝔢 𝔰𝔱𝔲𝔠𝔨 𝔬𝔫 𝔞 𝔪𝔬𝔲𝔫𝔱𝔞𝔦𝔫

𝔜𝔬𝔲 𝔱𝔯𝔶 𝔱𝔬 𝔤𝔬 𝔲𝔭, 𝔶𝔬𝔲 𝔱𝔯𝔶 𝔱𝔬 𝔤𝔬 𝔡𝔬𝔴𝔫, 𝔶𝔬𝔲 𝔱𝔲𝔯𝔫 𝔞𝔯𝔬𝔲𝔫𝔡

𝔗𝔬 𝔣𝔞𝔠𝔢 𝔞 𝔴𝔞𝔩𝔩 𝔰𝔬 𝔶𝔬𝔲 𝔠𝔞𝔫 𝔣𝔞𝔠𝔢 𝔶𝔬𝔲𝔯𝔰𝔢𝔩𝔣

𝔯𝔢𝔞𝔩𝔦𝔷𝔦𝔫𝔤 𝔶𝔬𝔲'𝔳𝔢 𝔪𝔞𝔡𝔢 𝔞 𝔪𝔦𝔰𝔱𝔞𝔨𝔢

𝔄𝔫𝔡 𝔶𝔬𝔲 𝔞𝔯𝔢 𝔟𝔢𝔦𝔫𝔤 𝔰𝔱𝔲𝔠𝔨 𝔬𝔫 𝔱𝔥𝔢 𝔪𝔬𝔬𝔫

𝔩𝔦𝔨𝔢 𝔱𝔥𝔢 𝔯𝔢𝔰𝔱 𝔬𝔣 𝔲𝔰, 𝔱𝔯𝔶𝔦𝔫𝔤 𝔱𝔬 𝔪𝔞𝔨𝔢 𝔰𝔢𝔫𝔰𝔢 𝔬𝔣 𝔦𝔱

𝔠𝔯𝔶𝔦𝔫𝔤 𝔠𝔞𝔲𝔰𝔢 𝔴𝔢 𝔡𝔬𝔫'𝔱 𝔥𝔞𝔳𝔢 𝔞𝔫𝔶 𝔯𝔢𝔞𝔰𝔬𝔫

>>12117
Yes, it is aye, and yes it is probably stress. Stands out? Once there were these weird swollen lego people that were more of a lego technic variety (not quite Bionicle) and I remember them unplugging their hands and plugging their hands back in and that had some special significance that, while I didn't remember, stuck with me for like 5 minuets.

>>12118
>tbh, this design for Luna is a little weird if I am going by the context she is on the moon and this was during her banishment.
https://twibooru.org/3524587?q=artist%3Ainspiredpixels
https://twibooru.org/3526896?q=artist%3Ainspiredpixels
https://twibooru.org/3528166?q=artist%3Ainspiredpixels

At a glance I would say this is a different banishment based on the artist's AU fanfic universe.

>Be me.
>See a brief glimpse of Princess Luna while walking in forest.
>Try to find her.
Get sidetracked talking to elderly guy about his aching foot.
Wake up.
SO CLOSE TO HAVING A PONY DREAM THAT WOULD BE PERFECT TO TALK ABOUT HERE.

Bleh, most dreams having been boring with that being the most interesting over the past couple of weeks.

>>12120
Are you saying like you believed it was real or that you were obsessed with it for some reason?

>inspiredpixels
I am a sucker for edgy fanfic crap if it doesn't go too far into politics. Some of these designs certainly look it.

>>12124
>SO CLOSE TO HAVING A PONY DREAM THAT WOULD BE PERFECT TO TALK ABOUT HERE.
I think all dreams are on the table, though. Here is mine last night:
Car is parked
I am confused on where me and my mother are doing
She wants to talk, but it's pitch black
I recommend strongly we drive
She agrees
We head to my grandparent's place in the country
wakeup.jpg

Not particularly interesting either other than I had a dark feeling that came on strong.

>Are you saying like you believed it was real or that you were obsessed with it for some reason?
Obsessed is too strong a world. More like believed it was real briefly but for some reason it stuck around in my thoughts.

Also, goodness, sleep is not forthcoming when you... uh, well, stuff I alluded to here:
>>12116
I don't want to play cryptic for attention but even though we sometimes discuss such things here it's just some stuff that is very deep and very personal and it has kind of affected everything with me. I'll somewhat elaborate if I make some art or something from this. Right now though I have been thinking on tiredness and insomnia. Sometimes I feel the strongest urge to create things in that state and I don't know why.

Speaking of art, the strongest urge to write something has been something that fits along the lines of this thread (maybe because sleep has been on my brain?) Maybe a revisit of the stars?

>>12127
>I am confused on where me and my mother are doing
On what me and my mother were doing.