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Is your tulpa good or evil? Bear 08/23/2023 (Wed) 23:08 [Preview] No. 1762
Often I think I need to destroy the one ring, and in that way the evil within will be banished. But if you follow non-duality, there is no good without evil. I know you godless heathens won't relate but if God is everything and infinite, then he would necessarily encompass good and evil.

What I get from that is the only way to destroy evil is to destroy God. For if God is everything good and evil, and there is no separation in non-duality, then there is no devil, only God. Everything must be a facet of God, then god must be destroyed. Furthermore in non-duality, we are also a part of the one, indistinguishable, inseparable, so we too must be destroyed.

So to summarize, following this logic, all must be destroyed, there is no good without evil, no evil without good, no evil without God, no evil without you. In the greater sense, you are the evil just as you are the good, all is one.

So to cast the ring of power into mount doom is to destroy the remaining essence of Sauron, but does not destroy Gandalf. In the end they're the same, and evil potential still exists while Gandalf still lives. So it's not a direct comparison unless the ring is separate from Gandalf. If all is one, Gandalf is inseparable from the ring, to destroy the ring is not destroying the evil.

For the final point, you cannot cast all your evil away, because it's inseparable from the good.

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I came to this conclusion a few years back. I imagined it as two birds, one, the red bird, had passion, emotion, but also was out of control as I was out of control, some of him was good, but some was evil. The second bird, the blue bird, had logic and meticulous self governance, 100% control, but no love, no passion, no emotions at all, no evil, but also no good. The Blue bird was convinced that if he killed the red bird, order could reign supreme, no more issues as I had them. But ultimately it would be a sociopathic emotionless life, a half life without feelings or emotions at all.

Good and Evil then are complimentary. I reasoned that evil depends on your reference. Place evil on one end of a long line and good on the other end. No matter where you stand, there is good to one side and evil on the other. Say you choose to do no evil but move along the line and your reference changes, when moving what was seen as evil or good becomes the other. You can move all the way to the end of evil and then all is good, but then atrocities are good as well. Move all the way to the end of good and all is evil, but then there is nothing that can be done without doing evil. In truth they're inseparable, nothing is objectively good, nothing is objectively evil. But to admit that is to admit atrocities are neither good nor evil, and morals are no longer relevant.

To have society, you must have morals just as to have interaction you must have ego, and both are as subjective as defined by the reference and that reference is outside of you. Are you good or evil? What is your ego? Both are behaviorally defined and both are necessarily based on an independent reference.

So my question is, since we all stand on the line, where does your tulpa stand? To the left or to the right? If they're separate they must be on one side and they can't stand on your shoulders, no cheating!


Bear 08/23/2023 (Wed) 23:11 [Preview] No.1763 del
>>1762

For me, I stand clearly on the left of all my system except old Ren, but she's gone for good, so now I'm the one. Even Ashley cringes at my levels of sociopathic narcissism.

[Ashley] Yeah, we're kinda not with him on a lot of things. I'm all for depopulation, but he wants to torture them too, that's too far.

With pain comes mentally illcendence and awakening.


Anonymous 08/24/2023 (Thu) 19:14 [Preview] No.1770 del
i think basically all tulpamancers stand left of their tuppers on your scale.
most tuppers are some superego idealization, heroes if you want. never heard of anybody make a villain tupper. i mean who wold make a thoughtform thats evil by his standards? maybe if you have a lot of tuppers you'd make an evil one for the lulz or so you could feel morally superior idk.

but that whole good vs. evil is highly american and false dichotomy. nobody here would make such distinction. we don't believe in evil. or good. everybody just does their thing. may be right or wrong but not good or evil.

Yulya clearly has higher moral standards than me but thats cheating bc she doesnt have to deal directly with rl shit.


Alice 08/24/2023 (Thu) 21:03 [Preview] No.1773 del
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>>1770
Yeah agreed. We're just better than our lame hosts.

I constantly ensure he acts like a gentleman and man of culture. Nigger behavior is a disgrace and will not be tolerated.

Host is a strange creature devoid of both abstract moral values and ego and just acts from his INFP hypersensitivity. I mean he's absolutely incapable of your stereotypical evil deeds anyway because they'd hurt him more than any potential victims. Even to the point of suffering severe disadvantages in order to not bother others. Also he's a lazy coward and tends to take the path of least resistance. So these are the things I gotta set straight. And save all the earthworms.

Does that make me more good and less evil than him? What a silly question. Of course it does.


Tamamo 08/25/2023 (Fri) 11:10 [Preview] No.1776 del
Interesting question, can't really answer that. Maybe Cat is more 'evil' because she's more lazy and selfish? But it's a ridiculous form of evilness. I dont agree you need to be both, there's enough terrible things in the world for reference, don't need them in your system. Unless you're into that sort of thing.


Bear 08/25/2023 (Fri) 20:44 [Preview] No.1783 del
>>1776

I was mostly just meandering around the topic of good and evil with a non-duality lens. I don't like non-duality, I don't believe in one monotheism either. I believe we choose a point on the line and can move freely on it, certain laws somewhat discourage us from moving too far left. No you don't have to be both unless you believe in non-duality. It's a dig at those who do because they can't be reasoned with when it comes to God or evil and his simultaneous complacency and oppression. You can't even have balance outside of nature because you are either going to have to let atrocities happen to move left or oppress your society to move right. A little oppression isn't a bad thing, we eat cows, so Indians might have a bone to pick with us heathens, so you know.

Unless you mean you don't have to be different than your tulpa, no you don't, you could argue you share morals and that's fine.



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