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Anonymous 08/12/2019 (Mon) 20:05:18 [Preview] No.3594 del
>Every once in awhile some wide-eyed newcomer asks why we aren’t more successful. Responses vary from minor nitpicking to claiming the rationality community is basically a bunch of people who enjoyed Yudkowsky’s blog

Can relate to this. I'm here largely because I like to read.

Oh well. Sucks to be your community :^)


Anonymous 08/12/2019 (Mon) 20:05:34 [Preview] No.3595 del
>>3593
>6. Useful mental models that have passed consensus (MBTI yes, Kegan levels no)
Kek


Anonymous 08/12/2019 (Mon) 20:05:50 [Preview] No.3596 del
>>3595
> Without revealing any specific details, the first 75% of the initial movers unknowingly shared a trait with an estimated occurrence in the community of less than 2%. Spooky.
?


Anonymous 08/12/2019 (Mon) 20:06:38 [Preview] No.3599 del
>>3594
I'm also here because I like to read and I don't like fiction or most of the well regarded non-fiction out there.


Anonymous 08/12/2019 (Mon) 20:06:54 [Preview] No.3600 del
btw did those faggots implement customizable rss feeds yet, because dear god I can't even log in


Anonymous 08/12/2019 (Mon) 20:07:10 [Preview] No.3601 del
What's the skinny on this Gleb Tsipursky dude. What did he do?


Anonymous 08/12/2019 (Mon) 20:08:14 [Preview] No.3605 del
What's with the huge concern over getting enough roasties into rationalism? Just accept that girls don't actually like weird man stuff all that much and go date outside the community.


Anonymous 08/12/2019 (Mon) 20:08:30 [Preview] No.3606 del
>>3605
being in a relationship with another person who doesn't understand your special type of autism while you understand theirs isn't great


Anonymous 08/12/2019 (Mon) 20:17:53 [Preview] No.3642 del
>>3606
just learn to bihack


Anonymous 08/12/2019 (Mon) 20:18:09 [Preview] No.3643 del
>>3642
According to https://thingofthings.wordpress.com/2016/01/22/notes-on-the-success-of-bihacking/, bihacking at best barely works. I assume that when it works, it's for girls and guys (female), who are more flexible in their sexual preferences to begin with.
>An interesting question which I’m not aware of the answer to is whether someone has managed to hack biromanticism but not bisexuality. I think that would be really useful to explore– particularly given the gender imbalance in the rationalist community.
Ozy is advocating for an asexual version of "it's only queer at the pier", too. Sad!


Anonymous 08/12/2019 (Mon) 20:19:12 [Preview] No.3647 del
i was thinking about a short pithy way to answer the "if youre so smart why arent you rich" meme as it is applied to rationalists

first, the primary vectors of spreading rationalism to people have been internet sites such as lesswrong, tumblr, or anywhere hpmor is hosted. strongly selecting for those who spend time reading shit on the internet. therefore rationalists are largely those who live inside their heads. and the second thing is that you can't just think your way to high social status, because that low hanging fruit has already been picked.


Anonymous 08/12/2019 (Mon) 20:19:28 [Preview] No.3648 del
>>3606
>being in a relationship
>wanting roasties to understand you


Anonymous 08/12/2019 (Mon) 20:19:44 [Preview] No.3649 del
>>3648
who the fuck am I supposed to live with after my mom kicks me out of her basement huh ? loneliness makes me go insane and no I don't want to join some retard group house dragon army bullshit


Anonymous 08/12/2019 (Mon) 20:20:00 [Preview] No.3650 del
>>3649
>loneliness makes me go insane
Sincere condolences.


Anonymous 08/12/2019 (Mon) 20:20:50 [Preview] No.3651 del
> talks about demography
> doesn't talk about the fact that less wrong 1.0 has largely evaporated, which could be explained by the productive members leaving to do something more useful

At least not in the demography section, anyway. I stopped reading at this point.


Anonymous 08/12/2019 (Mon) 20:21:06 [Preview] No.3652 del
>>3651
This is a good criticism that is missing from the article's comments. You should post it there, perhaps with a reference to /ratanon/.


Anonymous 08/12/2019 (Mon) 20:24:02 [Preview] No.3657 del
>read comments
>The Origin Project is also working on the same general problems, and looking to grow. You don't have to move anywhere, and you can get started right now.
>click link
>An Introduction to Origin
>it's an non-passing transwoman with facial piercings
>go to the youtube channel
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C6pQpZKv9ZA
Yep, looks doomed. Funny how obvious it is.


Anonymous 08/12/2019 (Mon) 20:24:35 [Preview] No.3659 del
>>3657
Is hivewired trans? I've met autistic women who were definitely not trans and more masculine than her. I assumed the same.


Anonymous 08/12/2019 (Mon) 20:25:14 [Preview] No.3661 del
>>3659
Hivewired is a piece of work.

https://hivewired.wordpress.com/whatisthis-2/

The pronoun is not singular-they, it's plural-they.


Anonymous 08/12/2019 (Mon) 20:25:30 [Preview] No.3662 del
>>3661
What do you guys think about that multiple minds thing? Real or bullshit?

I'm tempted to say bullshit on priors but there's some evidence and it makes sense from certain perspectives…


Anonymous 08/12/2019 (Mon) 20:25:46 [Preview] No.3663 del
>>3662
Do I think it's possible (multiple personalities on the same substrate) or do I think hivewired is an example?


Anonymous 08/12/2019 (Mon) 20:26:02 [Preview] No.3664 del


Anonymous 08/12/2019 (Mon) 20:26:18 [Preview] No.3665 del
>>3664
Is that 0-indexed or 1-indexed?


Anonymous 08/12/2019 (Mon) 20:26:34 [Preview] No.3666 del


Anonymous 08/12/2019 (Mon) 20:26:50 [Preview] No.3667 del
>>3664
Sure why not? What follows is a bit of a tangent, but it's the closest example I can relate.

I can induce a lucid dream and within the dream hold a brief conversation with a dream character. The dream character seem autonomous. After I wake, I can remember what the dream character said and share that conversation with a third party. Maybe the dream character asked me to tell the third party something and I speak on their behalf.

Is that dream character a temporary second personality being emulated in my brain? The third party can't tell and I can't tell either.


Anonymous 08/12/2019 (Mon) 20:27:06 [Preview] No.3668 del
>>3666
I don't know hivewired well enough to answer that. Is DID more common in transpersons?


Anonymous 08/12/2019 (Mon) 20:27:22 [Preview] No.3669 del
>>3668
Kek, wouldn't 1-index mean I meant the first question?


Anonymous 08/12/2019 (Mon) 20:27:38 [Preview] No.3670 del
>>3669
I automatically read >>3664 and >>3666
as "former, former" because I'm an idiot.


Anonymous 08/12/2019 (Mon) 20:30:55 [Preview] No.3682 del
Tulpas: Not Even Once


Anonymous 08/13/2019 (Tue) 08:15:17 [Preview] No.5712 del
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>>3642
4channel's /lgbt/ attempts to bihack


Anonymous 08/13/2019 (Tue) 08:15:33 [Preview] No.5713 del
>>3657
>>3668
I'm in the "origin project" discord server, as predicted it did literally nothing.
i also unfortunately live with hivewired, who has since detransitioned. they're just as bullshit as you think they are, if not worse.


Anonymous 08/13/2019 (Tue) 08:17:01 [Preview] No.5719 del


Anonymous 08/13/2019 (Tue) 08:17:17 [Preview] No.5720 del
>>5719
Calling it magic seems like a mistake, but is probably in line with the rest of the series if it includes such things as "Highly Advanced Tulpamancy 101 for Beginners".
It feels like a bait and switch, where the conclusion is "false beliefs can have instrumental value", which shouldn't be news, and "so be willing to engage in doublethink if it'll help" which would be more useful if it came with grounded advice for being able to tell when that's the case.


Anonymous 08/13/2019 (Tue) 08:24:22 [Preview] No.5743 del
>>5712
I was going to call this a LARP but I just looked up the thread and it actually kinda seems real, jesus christ.

https://yuki.la/lgbt/11346104



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