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yud Anonymous 08/13/2019 (Tue) 02:53:28 [Preview] No. 4870
Rationalism: the use of emotionally charged hypothetical stories about children in order to destroy first-world nations.

How is this clown still respected by anyone?


Anonymous 08/13/2019 (Tue) 02:53:46 [Preview] No.4871 del
epistemic status: I've read Culture of Critique and visit /pol/ all the time

Wait,
who says the country can't handle lots of immigration ?
Even if it can handle who in their right mind would want *lots* of immigration ? Like what's the point if you're 'seeing things like a state' ?
Just let in enough to support your economy.
>you might be evil
Maybe I've been reading too much philosophy recently but this kinda made me cringe.
I haven't lost respect for him, to be quite honest, you kinda need to be more charitable towards the mindset he comes from. He's not perfect.


Anonymous 08/13/2019 (Tue) 02:54:02 [Preview] No.4872 del
>>4870

The story of a mother and child being rejected is hardly a hypothetical. Do you know what "hypothetical" means?

His entire point is that one should be cognizant of the enormous arbitrary suffering and hardship caused by restrictions of the movement of peoples, *even* if you think that ultimately immigration should be heavily restricted

The REEEING from right wing culture warriors in response to this basic point is unsurprising and hilarious. HE TRIED TO APPEAL TO MY EMPATHY BY MENTIONING SOMETHING THAT'S ACTUALLY OCCURRING VERY FREQUENTLY! LOGICAL FALLACY!

"Kids are starving in Africa. Could you look at a kid who is starving and tell him you're going to spend it on vidya instead?"

"REEE LOGICAL FALLACY HYPOTHETICAL SITUATION REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE"


Anonymous 08/13/2019 (Tue) 02:54:18 [Preview] No.4873 del
>>4872
weakest strawman I've seen in a while


Anonymous 08/13/2019 (Tue) 02:54:34 [Preview] No.4874 del
>>4870
How about just genociding the fuckers so they don't need to suffer anymore?


Anonymous 08/13/2019 (Tue) 02:54:50 [Preview] No.4875 del
Kill all the niggers and jews


Anonymous 08/13/2019 (Tue) 02:55:23 [Preview] No.4877 del
>>4874

Sterilization. Why does humanity need low-IQ races? They need to be phased out.


Anonymous 08/13/2019 (Tue) 02:55:40 [Preview] No.4878 del
>>4872
lmao, retard


Anonymous 08/13/2019 (Tue) 02:55:56 [Preview] No.4879 del
>>4870
Is the label of "evil" worth embracing? Perhaps "lawful evil"?


Anonymous 08/13/2019 (Tue) 02:56:28 [Preview] No.4881 del
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Anonymous 08/13/2019 (Tue) 02:56:44 [Preview] No.4882 del
>>4881
Why would you draw such an ugly stirner?


Anonymous 08/13/2019 (Tue) 02:57:01 [Preview] No.4883 del
And here we see Eliezer Yudkowsky advocating that you pay when receiving a letter in the XOR blackmail problem. The immigrant only shows up because they know you'll let them in.


Anonymous 08/13/2019 (Tue) 02:57:17 [Preview] No.4884 del
>>4883
He insists on receiving the letter because he thinks the "pay up" outcome is the positive one.


Anonymous 08/13/2019 (Tue) 03:01:36 [Preview] No.4900 del
>>4870
I agree Eliezer, #OpenBordersforIsrael

also
>implying they're refugees and not some Islamic militia repeatedly getting off the (((hook))) for raping and murdering European girls

Will Eliezer look Swedish and German rape victims in the eye and manage to muster up "l-let them in"?

EY is like JBP, they both talk about normative and prescriptive virtues/principles to act on but repeatedly fail to apply them. JBP slouches, lies ("I can't"), has a messy room, imprecise speech etc.

What happened to "politics is the mindkiller"? Or being some fact- and case-based thinker? He's fallen so far from his sequences


Anonymous 08/13/2019 (Tue) 03:05:53 [Preview] No.4913 del
>>4874
Bill gates is actually doing this the ethical way via financing african contraception programs


Anonymous 08/13/2019 (Tue) 03:11:14 [Preview] No.4920 del
>>4913
Thank zog for that


dain, 8chan man 08/13/2019 (Tue) 03:21:22 [Preview] No.4952 del
You've presented me a gish gallop of claims which are so anti-true that I am losing sleep over them. I have never experienced rage this intense in my entire life; I can actually feel slight nausea. I find myself wondering how you can even conjure up so many evil, slimy, bold-facedly inaccurate things to say. If you were as well-read in Eliezer's writings as would be required for you to be justified in having made any blanket evaluations of LW rationality, there's no way you would have conveyed your disagreement exactly like this, and I am lead to believe you are intentionally creating hostility for some reason, despite actually being oblivious to Eliezer's beliefs and the practices of the LW community.

And I still want to reconcile with you, calmly and peacefully, because I expect that my gut is probably deceiving me about your intentions. There are so many causes for people saying wrong things, and usually the cause is not bad intent.


Anonymous 08/13/2019 (Tue) 03:22:11 [Preview] No.4955 del
>>4952
Which poster are you responding to?


Anonymous 08/13/2019 (Tue) 03:25:27 [Preview] No.4967 del
>>4964
Yud's rant is really below rationalist standards, and so is this response.


Anonymous 08/13/2019 (Tue) 03:25:43 [Preview] No.4968 del
>>4967
yud's existence is really below rationalist standards.


Anonymous 08/13/2019 (Tue) 03:37:15 [Preview] No.5002 del
>>4967
To be fair, Yud's rant seems below his own standards. He's just mish-mashing rat-memes he himself popularized, justifying an irrational low-tier Dem opinion.
It's a scary sight when a person becomes his own parody.


Anonymous 08/13/2019 (Tue) 03:37:31 [Preview] No.5003 del
Almost the entire output of the rationalist community is below rationalist standards.


Anonymous 08/13/2019 (Tue) 03:37:48 [Preview] No.5004 del
>>5003
Not to mention our lives.


Anonymous 08/13/2019 (Tue) 03:40:15 [Preview] No.5013 del
>>5004
fucking christ I do not come here for this.


Anonymous 08/13/2019 (Tue) 03:54:50 [Preview] No.5067 del
>>5013
As in "I don't want to be faced with this", or as in "I reject this narrative"?


Anonymous 08/13/2019 (Tue) 03:55:39 [Preview] No.5070 del
>>5067
This is more like a short pasta but I posted it with honesty.
It's more the first and less the second.



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