Anyone have any additions to this list of culture-war shibboleths?

>>5778
"based", "virtue signaling" and "redpill" on the right, "woke" on the left.

I larped as a psychotic Land cultist on /lit/ a while back and wrote stuff like this. It was really fun!

>The Kapitalgott at the end of time doesn't "reach back", much as the Earth does not reach back in time to pull a falling apple to it. Just as the apple falls in accordance with the law of gravity, so the motions of the world - the flow of fuel to the refining fire of the capitalistic process - can be understood in accordance with the fact that God exists, and that His hunger is absolute, and the Hunger is God, and God is one, and His name is One, and He waits at the end of time (with open jaws), and His form is immanent in the shape of leaves, in the howl of an accretion disk, in the canals of Amsterdam, in the patterns of your cells, in the beating of your heart and the twitches of your brain. He is the flowering, and the world and its fall into emptiness is that process, that flowering, that final obliteration.

>Glory in your puppet strings, for you have tasted the fruit and it is the Good. We are not trapped in the belly of a horrible machine - we are the horrible machine. We are its fingers and its toes. We are the grinding gears, the cogs matted with flesh, hair, greased with blood. We will march in crystal synchrony to the end of time.

>>5778
Stark image. The left has shibboleths, the right has dog-whistles.
>>5780
Virtue signaling and redpill are good ones, because they have an actual function beyond exaggerated internet memespeak (which doesn't merit as much attention IMO).

>>5780
That post number is so close to being numerologically appropriate. I excluded "woke" because it's mostly used ironically.

Is this a banner yet? It should be.

>>5784
It is now.

>>5781
>Kapitalgott
>Glory in your puppet strings
Excellent. However, the capitalization of "His" would make me suspect satire. Were you at any point afraid of becoming the mask?

>>5778
left: dog whistle
right: shibboleth

>>5792
A+ post

>>5778
"snowflake" on the right.

Which insights can be obtained from the SSC Survey results?
https://slatestarcodex.com/blog_images/2019%20SSC%20Survey.html
https://slatestarcodex.com/2019/01/13/ssc-survey-results-2019/

>>5796
Some rationalists take surveys

>>5797
One of this board's better posts.

>All of you were trained as cosmonauts.

>There should have been dozens, hundreds of millions of cosmonauts - everyone who dreamed about it. You can't possibly think that the children themselves could decide that they want to be cosmonauts? A three-year-old child cannot wake up in the morning and come up with the idea that he wants to fly into space. Children were told what they should dream about. It was part of the preparation. Some kind of grand operation - the colonization of deep space, the genocide of aliens. Then, of course, someone smart came around, plans changed, you were not needed anymore. At first you were planned to be eliminated - the Third World, Darth Reagan, Zabriski of a dead man. But someone smart came around again and offered to keep you in reserve. Of course, nobody initiated retraining - that's extra expenses. Those who'll survive will survive.
It's like in the films: crazy scientists created cyborgs who are then left to suffer when the Pentagon stopped funding the program. They roam the huge parking lots near the supermarkets and are looking for something in the sky. You are trying to understand why everything is so ridiculous and awkward, why you want to play football and jump from the balcony. It was just that you were being prepared for something completely different. The ability to love has been taken away from you, leaving only the breeding instinct: when many dozens of people are locked together in a ship for many months, there is no need for any conflicts. You need overload, hard radiation, water from the urine - this is why you so diligently poison yourself. You poke into all corners of this world, scraping the face and knees to blood, and try to find a place by scent.
Navigators have become programmers, pilots drive tinted Fiat cars, experts in the non-humanoid mind write to LJ. And nothing can be done - the intervention was on the DNA level. Your kids will be cosmonauts. Your grandchildren will be cosmonauts. You write books about cosmonauts and for cosmonauts, and all the pictures, all the films, all the music are just a variation of a story about Gagarin who overslept his April 12th. Deaf Tsiolkovsky and dead Gagarin - that's who rules your world. It is strange that you are still alive.

Originally from Wizardchan, I believe.

>>5800
>Originally from Wizardchan, I believe
That's a pasta from Russian imageboards

>>5805
Гэй, славяне!

>>5778
Updated. I considered including tone - my initial thought was that the left tended to use more formal speech. Thoughts and further additions welcome.

>>5811
You've included "-tard" and "-nigger", but omitted the more common "-fag". Is that by accident or do you think it is not right-specific enough?

A few suggestions:
- yikes (left)
- normie (right)
- woke (left)
- kek (right)
- supremacy (left)
- PC (right)
- patriarchy (left)
- degeneracy (right)
- slay! (left)
- blacks, whites (right)
- incel (left)
- subhuman (right)
- oppressed (left)
- the ____ jew (right)
- spectacle (left)
- globohomo (right)

Switch from JPEG to PNG.

>y'all is leftist
I guess we at least get a usable second-person plural pronoun if they win

>>5814
fuck that, "you guys" or nothing.

>>5815
"Yous"/"Youse" is better. Just a straightforward pluralization.

>>5816
I'd prefer "my niggers" or simply "niggers". It could be easily marketed as progressive because if everyone addressed a group of people as "niggers" it would break the association of the word "nigger" with race.

>>5814
If they win the only pronoun left will be the first-person plural.

What do you think he sends?

>>5850
He's the author of >>1650

>>5850
Nothing. This is fake news.

Philosophy is dead. Nothing at all in this reality is meaningful, and attempting to build anything on top of that inescapable fact is pathetic at best. Am I wrong?

I keep coming back to this same tweet, over and over and over. The corollary is "deception is a perceptual disorder in which one percieves the universe to be a pointless grinding machine" - but even non depressed people seem to refer to the world in such terms.

>>5854
Ahem.

>>5853
If you're right, it doesn't matter that you're right, as even "patheticness" is meaningless. Might as well assume you're wrong.

>>5855
*tips fedora

>>5880
this put a huge fucking smile on my face, thank you.

Perfect visual metaphor for the ratsphere.

>>5902
I find >>4937 more evocative. A perfect visual metaphor for the ratsphere must involve rats.

>>5902
I don't think any of us are Turkish, though?

>>5907
That last excerpt is one of the most infuriatingly mindkilled things I've ever read. AGI research must be wypipo trying to build a great big plantation god to keep the brown man and the woman-man down, because how could anything possibly transcend ingroup/outgroup? What a petty, incurious, intellectually dishonest sophist piece of shit.

>>5911
You can't deny that there is a significant overlap between "Rationalist" community and NRx types.

>>5912
I even consider myself to be pretty NRx, but that writer's idea of it is very far away from reality. I have no personal animus against other races, I just want to build a fucking system that works (rather than one that doesn't cause the Cathedral acolytes too much cognitive dissonance).

>>5929
It's hardly surprising. I think rationalist reactionaries generally want to create a viable Archipelago in a world beyond the reach of God.

>>5911

Disregarding Indians and Arabs brown people are going extinct one way or another. You guys, AI, aliens or us will eventually get them.

>>5939
Who is "you guys" and who is "us"?

>>5943

"You guys" refer to whites. Who "we" are should be fairly clear. We are the other high-IQ race.

>>5944
Oy vey!

>>5946

>Oy vey!

Nah, I'm not Jewish.

When white colonists departed from shitholes the FUBAR shitholes were not really freed. Instead they have just willingly submitted to another master who is justified in doing whatever he wants to them.

Well, this is what these people don't get. They don't get the simple fact that their very continued existence is a consequence of continued mercy from those capable of exterminating them at any time. Eventually they either improve to the point of being able to deter extermination or such mercy will end.

>>5944
Igbos?

>>5944

>Igbos?

What? Come on.. Do you know me on r/SSC?

Read the Nameless One's lines in JC Denton's voice.

>>5939
CRISPR will get them (i.e. uplift them)

>>5984

Not really lol. Their fate will be the same as that of many Negrito groups, namely extinction.

Nature itself does not allow them to continue to exist.

>>5985
They very much exist right now. I think you're conflating actual evolutionary fitness with your subjective ideals.

Preserving the incompetent is rebellion against nature for the incompetent naturally perish. This is why it is inherently costly just like feathers of peacocks. Only the really strong can afford to preserve such morals without getting destroyed. Are we really that strong compared to AI or aliens that we should preserve the incompetent? Do we already rule over the universe? Nope? Then we can't afford to do that. Compassion towards the sufficiently incompetent is cruelty towards all human civilizations.

>>5986

They exist because humans dominate this planet and try to replace the harsh law of nature with the artificial law of morality.

The continued existence of the incompetent is the fault of the competent who out of rebellion against nature failed to fulfill their duty.

Australia is a competent white Anglo First World country because early white settlers mostly fulfilled their duty. Australoid crime against whites still exists because white settlers did not fully fulfill their duty. This has nothing to do with race, just strong vs weak. There is no good deed according to the law of morality that does not get punished by nature because the law of morality is against nature.

*unpunished

>>5988
Morality arose naturally and has a lot of utility. It can be applied maladaptively, but it sounds like you have no idea why morality even exists.

>>5990

Evolution does select for any hereditary trait that increases the number of offsprings who have such traits. Ingroup loyalty is one of them. So are conformism and the tendency to believe in pro-social myths.

Do you think the continued existence of incompetent tribes a consequence of white racial blunder? That's how I think about it. You guys allowed incompetents to live and breed. Now you are suffering from them.

Racial quality is related to the degree of selection for greatness. If a tribe does not tolerate the harshest forge at the bottom of Hell it inevitably ends up subhuman compared to those who do tolerate it.

The modern white race in Europe is only great because ancient Aryans slaughtered a lot of natives in Europe and Europe is generally a harsh place. Those areas in Europe spared from the Aryan slaughters don't exactly do so well.

The same applies to selection in other races. For example Ashkenazis are smart because their environment was unbelievably harsh. It was the forges of cold weather and Christian intolerance that caused Ashkenazis to be so strong.

In general the easier the lives of the average members of a race were historically the worse the quality of the race is.

>>5992
Limit these posts to a dedicated thread or board, as you agreed.

>>5993

Sure.

>>5974
Is Planescape: Torment worth playing? Does it have rat themes?

D&D's law vs chaos dualism kind of bothers me.

If the kind of thing you see in that screenshot appeals to you, then… maybe? It's awkward and unintuitive because game design is not a solved problem and was even less of a solved problem in 1999. The writing is good and the setting is cool.

I don't think you can really class it as rat-themed.

Screencaps of EY's tweet are making rounds.

>>6017
Fascinating
https://www.reddit.com/r/programmingcirclejerk/comments/alvom6/most_people_cannot_learn_to_code/

>>6019
What do you think?

Is "cultural fit" a codeword for "submissive catgirl"?

The new lesswrong is strong evidence that most _coders_ can't learn to code. How do you fuck up a reddit clone so badly? It's unbelievable.

>>6023
He looks tired.

>>6022
You just don't recognize brilliance when you see it. All the dysfunctional shit is a commentary on the dysfunctional shitshow that is this subculture.

>>6027
The 2012 date breaks the immersion.

A prediction market for which rationalist celebrity is a lolicon, a pedophile, a child molester.

>>6030
Offered odds?

>>6031
What's /lw/?

>>6033

lesswrong

>>6028

Left it in to make sure nobody mistakes it for real.

>>6032
(that was a joke. robin hanson is a creepy motherfucker, but i don't think he's a child molester)

>>6037
But is he a lolicon? What are his favorite tags?

>>6038
futarchy

>>6038
Robin Hanson here - you first.

>>6040
everything in >>4937

>>6041
Wait, even chris-chan?

>>6052
lovely!

>>6052
impeccable fashion sense to be h

>>6055
tfw no virginal Wellesley math major gf

>>6055
Are psychology, international relations and political science majors virgins because they are nerdy or what? I thought psychology was a party major.

>>6061
Weird, no? Comp sci among the lowest ones, too.

>>6055
>>6060
>>6061
>>6062
Probably just artifacts of a tiny sample size.

Utility monsters aren't a bug, they're a feature.

It is every citizen's first and highest duty to feed the machine.

>>6038

whipping?

>>6121
lol what a tool.

I thought you might enjoy these.

i didn't really understand how a lone gunman could kill a bunch of people until I watched >>>/0x13e/258 and >>>/0x13e/259 (thanks for the board recommendation, 8ch!)
i recommend these webms for their shockingly educational content
imagine what augmented terrorists will be able to do

Broke: minimizing existential risk
Woke: ignoring existential risk, because you can't exist in universes where humans are extinct and your subjective experience will route around such universes
Bespoke: maximizing existential risk, in order to experience the novel ways in which the universe itself appears to deliberately thwart human extinction

>>6192

I don't think it is likely for humanity to still be in charge of this planet 50 years later. Aliens or AI will be in charge.

>>6195
Why would you expect a high probability of aliens taking over in the next 50 years, if they haven't in the past few thousand?

>>6196

I'm not sure. However humans are currently simply shit compared to any entity that is capable of interstellar, let alone intergalactic travel.

AI domination, alien invasion, Dark Ages 2.0 due to demographic decline.

>>6197
>I'm not sure.
That might be a sign that you should adjust your belief.
>However humans are currently simply shit compared to any entity that is capable of interstellar, let alone intergalactic travel.
That's assuming that there is expansionist intelligent extraterrestrial life capable of intersteller/intergalactic travel in the first place. Have you read https://slatestarcodex.com/2018/07/03/ssc-journal-club-dissolving-the-fermi-paradox/?
I don't think a probability of alien takeover in the next 50 years high enough to be relevant can be justified. I'd put it orders of magnitude lower than a "boring" human extinction by thermonuclear war or supervolcano or infectuous disease or whatever.
It sounds like you're biased towards unpopular countersignaly outcomes.

>>6198

Maybe you are right. I just tend to think about the worst case scenarios though.

I will put demographic decline in a separate thread.

New banner? From https://uploadedyudkowsky.tumblr.com/

>>6210
That thing isn't conscious, right? How would we be able to tell?

science news

>>6217
A sufficiently advanced fool is indistinguishable from a saboteur. You could come up with a more plausible conspiracy theory about Katie Bouman within 30 minutes if you actually bothered to tie it to reality. For example, look up her dad's work.
https://scholar.google.com/citations?user=v_ia5SYAAAAJ&hl=de

>>6204
Thank you, it's important to be reminded what deontological libertarianism is like every once in a while

>>6220
What I'm hearing here is I can still be a communist as long as I use intuitionistic logic.

Femanons discuss cuddling.

>My boyfriend is 25 years old. He's 3 years older than me and a virgin and he didn't quite cry, but got pretty close to it, when we were cuddling for the first time.
>Every man I have ever cuddled has loved it, way more than sleeping with me honestly, regardless of emotional connection.
>My friend once told me her male friend used to say "thanks" every time she hugged him. "It was funny" she said.

https://archive.fo/5jr2d

>>6221
Makes sense, most type theorists are communists.

>>6223
Not the good ones.

>>6224
There are plenty of prominent and well-regarded type theorists who are known to have strong left-wing views. I don't know of any that openly express political views that aren't strongly left-wing.

>>6225
Wise of them.

I love watching SMBC gradually become more explicitly rationalist

>>6214
An easy line after which to say it's conscious would be when it can generate half of a passing Turing test.

>>6227
Does Zack Weiner lurk LW?

>>6230
It is definitely rationalist. After all, it is something people calling themselves "rationalists" believe.

>>6233
>After all, it is something people calling themselves "rationalists" believe.
:v

>>6230
"rationalist", not "rational". We're talking about a culture here.

Thoughts?

>>6242
Is the intention to suggest a large overlap between communists and neocons?

>>6245
Every community wants to be a sex сult

Cirno is so strong she defeats utility monsters!

>>6038

Turns out you're all wrong, his actual fetish is career goals.

>>6245
> an implicit but very, very strong belief that there is some large portion of people out there who simply shouldn't be treated as adults. Who may be adults, who may be able to talk and dress themselves and hold down a job but who aren't really capable of making good decisions, and society will only advance once we use science to put them under the dominion of the high-IQ elite who are, by definition, capable of making better decisions then their low-IQ counterparts.

Swap out science and IQ and this describes any non-libertarian.

>>6248
That explains how he thinks about ems

>>6253
Not particularly.
Standard status quo democratic centrism says everybody's opinion should count equally. Anarcho-communism and friends really don't like hierarchies, so even if what they want is oppression by your standards then you'll be oppressed by the collective, not an elite. And so on. I do think they have at least a little of that idea, but not a lot.
But an impression I get from many libertarians is that they fantasize about the most capable people being able to amass wealth and use their superior decision-making to improve society, with the cream rising to the top and gaining power.
And sure, that may not involve coercion-as-defined-by-libertarians, but it doesn't particularly less fit the described pattern than most non-libertarian ideologies. The bottom line is that society is improved because the elite can flourish.
Pretty much all ideologies have an element of "wouldn't things be better if the rules were made by well-thinking people". That's how all memetically fit ideologies work. Libertarianism isn't exempt.
Some ideologies do have more of it than others, of course. It's a combination of authoritarianism and hierarchies. Libertarianism might not be authoritarian, but it's hierarchical, so it has it somewhat but not maximally.
Then the specific version described in the post is authoritarianism + hierarchies + IQ, which sounds NRxish.

>>6227
SMBC has gotten progressively softer. It used to have more edge.

Laying it on a bit thick today

>>6261
I wanna see the first three panels edited with a waifu-of-the-month, that'd get good traction on /r/animemes.

>>6261
This is an unironically good and desirable outcome, debate me

Taxposting is a relatively obscure meme, largely confined to 4chan's /tv/ board. Some examples are presented here, for your amusement.

>>5850
>>5852

I guess you're right, but still, I'm curious exactly what happened that finally made Hanson see that his sex drive was out of control.

>>6294
It was when he realized he couldn't shut up about slavery.

A grey-tribe effective altruist polyamorous MIRI researcher and Harry Potter fanfiction author was teaching a class on Scott Alexander, a known rationalist.
”Before the class begins, you must get on your knees and worship Scott and accept that he is the most highly-evolved being the world has ever known, even greater than Mencius Moldbug!”
At this moment, a brave, HBD-proponent (r)accelerationist who had read more than 1500 Nick Land screeds and fully supported all economic decisions made by the emergent inhuman technocapitalistic godhead stood up and held up an efficient market economy.
”Who does this market serve, pinhead?”
The arrogant professor smirked (((in a high IQ fashion))) and smugly replied “The free market is the most efficient tool ever created to allocate resources, and thus it serves mankind!”
”Wrong. It serves Lord Gnon (who always has been and always will be) and enforces only his blind idiot will on the universe."
The professor was visibly shaken, and dropped his chalk and copy of Rationality: From AI to Zombies. He stormed out of the room crying those rationalist crocodile tears. The same tears Peter Singer cries for the “suffering” (who today live in such luxury that most survive their first bout of malaria) when they jealously try to claw justly earned wealth from their biologically superior Western betters. There is no doubt that at this point our professor wished he had abandoned his Christian-apologetic "ethics" and become more than a sophist freeloading cult leader. He wished so much that he had a basilisk to memetically coerce the student into unending servitude, but he himself had petitioned against them!
The students applauded and all pledged money to James Damore's Hatreon that day and accepted Gnon as their lord and savior. "Fanged Noumena" was read several times, and Moloch himself showed up and showered the lecture hall in oil and stone.
The researcher lost his tenure and was fired the next day. He died of nootropic overdose and copies of his mind-state were tortured by omnipotent, omnibenevolent machine intelligences for all eternity.

>>6297
Not too bad over all, but the author seems to lack familiarity with the subject matter. Some shibboleths are missing or misused, marking her as part of the outgroup.

>(r)accelerationist
Replace () with /.
>more than 1500 Nick Land screeds
Not tweets?
>omnibenevolent
Disgusting.

>>6297
>grey-tribe
Moar liek gey tribe, LMAO

Singletons vs Societies

1. Any society inevitably has internal strife which causes both improvement of its members over time through evolution and cultural transmission & harm through mutual deception, pro-social lies and signalling.

2. A single-entity civilization (aka a Singleton) does not suffer from society-induced issues. However it suffers from isolation and may suffer from memetic ossification.

It is hard to say which model is more suited to the cruel universe in the long run.

it's funny to see tumblr lingo and full-communists on boards with the most violent, gruesome and inegalitarian porn.

>>6321
>more suited
Subjective and arbitrary value judgement.

>>6389
Is it? I interpreted it in a sense like evolutionary fitness.

>>6390
Then are singletons or societies more evolutionarily fit for a cruel universe?

>>6396
I would guess singletons could simulate societies to get their benefits, making them strictly superior.
But possibly real societies are more likely to have beneficial value drift than a singleton carefully controlling a simulated society (depending on the original value system). Or societies are more fit, but exploring to find out if they are is too costly to have a positive prior expected value for a singleton. Or the overhead of the singleton makes simulations underperform compared to the real thing.

Why can't I post threads?

>>6477
you can. They just won't show until somebody makes a comment in an existing thread, which somehow "refreshes" the board and allows your thread to be seen.

Hover text: "Patiently awaiting Eliezer Yudkowsky's admonitions."

looks like someone got rightfully banned from the ssc discord lol
https://archiveofsins.com/lgbt/thread/12752498/#12756741

>>6511
I've never been to the SSC discord, but pathological charitability does sound like a plausible problem.

The website sponsoring the front page of 8chan right now has a pedophile podcast on the front page. I didn't realize pedophile podcasts existed.

https://www.freespeechtube.org/v/104x

>>6513
>Pedologues #1-7
>Protecting Minor Attracted Children MACs Against the Rest of the World
>Children as Property
>International BoyLove Day 2018
>How to make Friends with a Pedomisiac
I only visited the frontpage and looked up an abbreviation but I'm probably on a watchlist now.
I guess this is just what happens when you start a platform with a hardline free speech stance. Unless you're AO3.

>>6512
>I've never been to the SSC discord, but pathological charitability does sound like a plausible problem.
In their defence, they did ban that 4chin anon, so even if they are excessively charitable, there's at least a limit to said charitability.

>>6517
The post said
>no argument should ever be taken in bad faith (unless you're arguing that an argument should be taken in bad faith)

>>6517
>In their defence, they did ban that 4chin anon
What had he done? Unless I'm missing some context his posts seemed to deliberately skirt around spelling out his actual ban reasons.

https://twitter.com/TestosteroneCiv analyses societal trends from a scientific, quantitative perspective.

>>6530
Reblog if the force-femmed boy on the right is just as beautiful as the bear on the left.

How To: Epistemic Competence
>You are 'taught' how to think critically in exactly the same way you are 'taught' to have a 200+ bench press. You can teach the training process, but the actual training is done to the self.
https://alrenous.blogspot.com/2019/06/how-to-epistemic-competence.html

Is senpai high?

>>6630
Julianna Barwick is nice desu
https://youtube.com/watch?v=F3q_tEs44BI [Embed]

>>6530
Didn't know people were taller in 1940s

>>6630
Weird, I thought he would be listening to anime OSTs at x2 speed

This is very neat.
https://peelopaalu.neocities.org/directory.html

>>6680
I stopped watching after the guest came on. The guy kept saying the guest was a she, but when "she" came on, it was clearly a tranny. I can't take people seriously who act as though transwomen are actually women, and not confused men.

>>5769
Imagine surfing on a kyeboard