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Volodymyr Zelensky Says He Is Open To Peace Talks With Russia After Talking To Donald Trump Reader 07/20/2024 (Sat) 14:40 Id: 14639c (1) [Preview] No. 22728 [Hide User] [X]

Volodymyr Zelensky Says He Is Open To Peace Talks With Russia After Talking To Donald Trump

Former President Trump vowed to “bring peace” after he spoke on the phone with Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky on Friday.

“President Zelenskyy of Ukraine and I had a very good phone call earlier today. He congratulated me on a very successful Republican National Convention and becoming the Republican nominee for President of the United States,” Trump posted to his Truth Social site.

Trump said Zelensky condemned the “heinous” assassination attempt against the former president last Saturday and remarked about the American people coming together in unity.

Trump said that it was a “very good call” and that he will work to negotiate a peace deal between Moscow and Kyiv. A person close to Zelenskyy who requested anonymity to discuss the private conversation said it went “exceedingly well” and that Trump pledged to “achieve a just peace in Ukraine” if he wins back the White House.

“I appreciate President Zelenskyy for reaching out because I, as your next President of the United States, will bring peace to the world and end the war that has cost so many lives and devastated countless innocent families,” Trump wrote. “Both sides will be able to come together and negotiate a deal that ends the violence and paves a path forward to prosperity.”

Zelensky said he agreed with Trump to discuss “at a personal meeting what steps can make peace fair and truly lasting.”

The call marks a turning point for Trump and Zelensky. Russia invaded Ukraine in Feb. 2022, a year after Joe Biden took office, over heated disputes of continued, and unwarranted, militant NATO expansion.

https://thehill.com/policy/international/4783075-trump-vows-peace-call-zelensky/

Reader 07/22/2024 (Mon) 00:51 Id: f58b21 (2)Prev Next [Preview] No.22729 [Hide User Posts] [X] del

Typical. Two jews meet and stroke each other's egos. Trump may work to stop Russia vs. Ukraine, but he's vocally for Israel continuing to massacre Palestinians.

US and Russia hold talks on Ukra 02/19/2025 (Wed) 19:33 Id: 92380c (1) [Preview] No.28118 [Hide User Posts] [X] del >>28143

US and Russia hold talks on Ukraine war in Saudi Arabia

Won't open a new thread for this. I have not chased "properly vetted" news source, so just relying on Al Jazeera, which sources the article to:
>Al Jazeera and news agencies
"News agencies" for them typically means Reuters.

Anyway.
US Secretary of State Rubio and Russian Foreign Minister Lavrov met in the company of other officials in Saudi Arabia, which counts friendly for both sides. Basically this is a first touch, where they outlined some generic positions and agreed that they'll talk more.
Question is when Trump and Putin will meet. And where. That will be important. If one of them visits the other in his country that will signal who has the stronger position.
Despite neither Ukrainian nor European politicians, diplomats were invited, Zelensky also flew to Saudi Arabia. He said Ukraine wants security guarantees, and that they won't recognize anything as Russian territory.

I find this line interesting:
>Peskov also acknowledged that Ukraine has the right to join the European Union, but said Moscow has “a completely different position” regarding military alliances, such as NATO.
So according to them, whatever left from Ukraine can join EU, but not NATO.

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2025/2/18/us-russia-talks-sideline-ukraine-and-europe

Couple more closely related articles from same media outlet. Perhaps will post them too.

Edited last time by Shiban on 02/19/2025 (Wed) 19:34.

Reader 02/20/2025 (Thu) 03:04 Id: f58b21 (2)Prev Next [Preview] No.28143 [Hide User Posts] [X] del

>>28118
tbh, "properly vetted" news sources are frequently untrustworthy and Al Jazeera is more reliable. Especially considering this board's focus, the first line of the header and Rule 1 of the board - Mainstream (((peer))) reviewed sources don't align, but Al Jazeera tends to. Besides, you understand not posting lazy one sentence nothing burgers. So feel free to start a thread whenever you want.

Edited last time by AdolfHitler on 02/20/2025 (Thu) 03:05.

Reader 02/23/2025 (Sun) 21:36 Id: e0ebaf (1) [Preview] No.28344 [Hide User Posts] [X] del

The next article is about EU reactions.

Trump’s Ukraine policy shift: How are European leaders planning to respond?

Various European leaders and NATO officials had this meeting in Paris hosted by Macron. They are very concerned and supportive to Ukraine. I think the key takeaway is this:
>“Nothing has emerged from the public statements from the Paris meeting that shows Europe is any closer to proposing, let alone implementing, anything,” Keir Giles, a senior consulting fellow at Chatham House, told Al Jazeera.
And an interesting paragraph:
>United Kingdom Prime Minister Keir Starmer has floated the idea of sending British troops to Ukraine as well as Sweden. But German Chancellor Scholz has called the discussion to deploy troops “completely premature”.

My commentary:
This whole circus shows how weightless this bunch is. They can talk any bs and play the great statesmen without the fear that they actually have to deliver. They can give empty promises, such as NATO membership, while knowing very well that certain countries (eg Hungary, Slovakia) will veto it anyway. They can offer more money and weapons and sanctions without limits, despite their economies can't deliver shit, and blame certain leaders (stooges like Orbán and Fico) that they are delaying and torpedo their plans. They can rattle their sabers and then blame Trump that he made a deal over their head, they couldn't do anything.
Each and every one of these countries could support Ukraine individually, but somehow they needed a collective NATO effort to deliver weapons at some point, and then blame Hungary for the delay. They wanted to do it collectively because they did not want the blame falling on them individually when they failed (failed not just for their inability but for the lack of motivation).

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2025/2/18/trumps-ukraine-policy-shift-how-are-european-leaders-planning-to-respond

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