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Welcome to /agp/ Anonymous 10/04/2019 (Fri) 11:07:47 [Preview] No. 1 [Reply] [X] [Last 50 Posts]
This board is for discussion and content related to autogynephilia (AGP), "a man's paraphilic tendency to be sexually aroused by the thought or image of himself as a woman." NSFW is allowed. Please spoiler NSFW OPs. Questions and comments about board itself go in this thread.



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How do you cure AGP?


Anonymous 03/27/2020 (Fri) 06:08:19 [Preview] No.18 [X] del
Testosterone suppression.


Anonymous 02/23/2021 (Tue) 04:25:56 [Preview] No.21 [X] del
You must first learn how you got it



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Those who acting on AGP Anonymous 08/25/2023 (Fri) 22:42 [Preview] No. 59 [Reply] [X] [Last 50 Posts] >>60>>71
Those of you who found yourself having AGP/CD fantasies etc. Did you act on it ‘irl’ and hook up with someone? It would be fascinating to hear what you went through.

I could ask more questions but I’ll wait and see if this thread is alright first


Anonymous 09/06/2023 (Wed) 16:58 [Preview] No.60 [X] del
>>59
nah too scared
girls are supposed to be pursued anyway


Anonymous 09/12/2023 (Tue) 00:35 [Preview] No.64 [X] del >>65
So what do you do instead?


Anonymous 09/20/2023 (Wed) 21:05 [Preview] No.65 [X] del
>>64
i just do the agp things in private crossdress etc


Anonymous 11/17/2023 (Fri) 19:42 [Preview] No.71 [X] del
>>59
i just transitioned because of it so i guess that's how i acted my agp



Links Anonymous 10/04/2019 (Fri) 11:39 [Preview] No. 2 [Reply] [X] [Last 50 Posts]
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Anyone who can't imagine being in a stable relationship with a woman and sees themselves as only being third wheel in a relationship at most?


Anonymous 11/16/2023 (Thu) 02:15 [Preview] No.70 [X] del >>74
>>68
third wheel as in dissociation from your body?? what are you saying this sentence is confusing for me


Anonymous 12/06/2023 (Wed) 06:37 [Preview] No.74 [X] del >>76
>>70
like a threesome or a man and a woman with a pet or part time 'gf' y'know


Anonymous 01/04/2024 (Thu) 17:21 [Preview] No.76 [X] del >>77
>>74
oh like on dating apps couples that always look for a third that they never want to see again afterwards


Anonymous 01/05/2024 (Fri) 07:05 [Preview] No.77 [X] del
>>76
>never want to see again afterwards
kek thats mean



is feeling alienated most of the time part of being agp?
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Anonymous 07/27/2023 (Thu) 02:31 [Preview] No.35 [X] del >>36
>>33
Yes when you are a freak people don't want to have anything to do with you.
The solution is to not be a freak.


Anonymous 07/27/2023 (Thu) 02:50 [Preview] No.36 [X] del >>37
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>>34
i feel pretty different
can't socialize completely with males some aspects are very strange
can't socialize with females although i do like how they show sincerity and empathy atleast on the surface
maybe it's just autism
>>35
people don't know i'm agp anon


Anonymous 07/27/2023 (Thu) 04:09 [Preview] No.37 [X] del >>49
>>36
Same, I guess
I have a bit of that feeling of alienation as well since I can't fully relate to men or women
One idea I see that crops up often is that agp (or maybe "soft, nerdy boys" in general) is its own gender
It's probably kinda true


Anonymous 07/28/2023 (Fri) 17:09 [Preview] No.49 [X] del >>58
>>37
how do i know it's not a trick being played by my mind on me
do you ever feel you're blocked off from your true feelings?


Anonymous 07/30/2023 (Sun) 11:57 [Preview] No.58 [X] del
>>49
I think it largely feeds into itself, feelings of alienation leads to isolation which leads to more alienation, so it is a kind of trick
it could be other factors in your life too that contribute, like lack of meaning, purpose, or lack of meaningful self-expression

for me, it's hard to say, I don't emote much
Though being blocked off from your true feelings could be a sign of depression or related to the feelings of alienation, hard to say



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Pair bonding Anonymous 07/26/2023 (Wed) 02:47 [Preview] No. 28 [Reply] [X] [Last 50 Posts] >>31>>32
Anything can start out solely sexual and become an emotional attachment over time. When you're thinking of yourself as a woman in your fantasies for long periods of time and the reality is that your body is not at all what you fantasize about, you start to become so fixated on patching up the incongruence between your real body and the body you have in your fantasies. I've seen it myself. I went from "whatever" few years ago to "Oh my God, I want her dress and I want to be her". I think this is what separates the "Cis" AGP from the transexual AGP, the "Cis" AGP will form no attachment to the idea of being a woman and it'll just be a simple fap fantasy. the transexual AGP will welcome these feelings and believe he/she was supposed to be a man/woman with increased feelings over time, so even though it may have started out only sexual, the fetish takes on a life of its own without its host even realizing before it's too late


Anonymous 07/26/2023 (Wed) 04:23 [Preview] No.31 [X] del
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Seems reminiscent of Blanchard's beliefs, and also the idea that the condition of a trans AGP is one they inflicted upon themselves by burning so much energy and thought on the sexual fantasies. Like how TERFs are quick to label transgenders as "porn-sick males"

That said, it happened to me too. Went from "just a fetish" to feeling bad about my body not being like the pretty perfect girls in those fantasies, so fuck, maybe you're right


Anonymous 07/26/2023 (Wed) 04:43 [Preview] No.32 [X] del
>>28
Yep, I was just fapping to TG comics until it became non-sexually daydreaming about being my female self to now taking estrogen. The pipeline is real.
Although I think in my case it was realizing I already had that emotional attachment but it was subconscious and I just became more aware of it over time.
Because I was already attached to girls growing up, idealizing them, idealizing female characters in fiction and so on.


Anonymous 07/27/2023 (Thu) 05:54 [Preview] No.38 [X] del >>40
>Because I was already attached to girls growing up, idealizing them, idealizing female characters in fiction and so on.
Why didn't you lead with that? It just sounds more like you had some form of innate gender mismatch and the porn and fantasies were just symptomatic, rather than the cause
While lots of AGPs claim that porn or longterm fixation or w/e turned them trans, it's more likely that they were never normal to begin with


Anonymous 07/27/2023 (Thu) 07:36 [Preview] No.40 [X] del
>>38
It mirrors my self-understanding process, maybe I could have worded it like you've mentioned though.
After understanding I was different and then looking back on past memories, my actions and beliefs then made a lot more sense.



told a friend I'm turned on by clothes and she was weirded out!
sometimes in the future
might decide not to share these things
currently 3 years hrt at this point

doing sex work and having sex with 4-8 men a week
>picrel leggings finna cop


Anonymous 09/10/2023 (Sun) 03:59 [Preview] No.62 [X] del
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my plan is to start tailoring and making clothes for women that way they'll involve you more


Anonymous 09/10/2023 (Sun) 04:28 [Preview] No.63 [X] del
>>61
Nice ass!



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what are the differences and parallels between agp and mef (masochistic emasculation fetish)?
is agp just a 'matured' form of emasculation fetish that affects shy sensitive boys?
many times sissies start out as hyper sexual giga sluts then slowly mellow out into more regular female aesthetics
is viewing tg, feminization porn a symptom of gender dysphoria or is gender dysphoria a symptom of emasculation fetish?
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Anonymous 07/29/2023 (Sat) 11:16 [Preview] No.53 [X] del >>54
>>52
oh, well you did a damn good impression of him
his whole "you must feel this way because I feel this way and if you disagree, it's because you dOn'T uNdErStAnD" schtick is annoying
I honestly wasted so much time debating him until I saw that he's been doing the same conversations for over a decade, with same phrases like "I cAn bE cOnSiDeReD aN eXPerT"
Expert masturbator maybe...
>i think wxhluyp's theory nicely explains the causal chain that causes agp
Eh, I don't have any trauma, was never bullied or ridiculed for my love for femininity, so it's not based in shame or anything
Why do you think that it does?
And wxhlyup thinks AGP doesn't exist, his words is that no agp is actually aroused by being a woman, which is straight up denial and autistic delusion on his part...He denies blanchard.
That's actually my main problem with him, I don't care about the origins, it's that he doesn't understand what agp is at all.
>erotic target location error? it's kinda weak
I haven't been following it too closely but there's a paper out recently that found sone ETLEs in other fetishes
>i haven't heard a sound criticism of him so far
like when he starts to talk about unconcious desires and feelings you can't feel, that's just making stuff up to justify your conclusions
You might as well say I have a female soul at that point
>they want to think of their fetish as casual and just a kink
I'm talking about the regulars on his forum complaining that there are too many sissies there who aren't MEF and don't understand it, hurting the discussion there


Anonymous 07/29/2023 (Sat) 12:44 [Preview] No.54 [X] del >>55
>>53
idk how he exactly defines trauma but theres definitely an inherent shame in being compared to something feminine
dont think he denies agp feeling arousal from the thought of imagining themselves as women except theres always a sense of underlying maleness and emasculation even when it's not depicted as such
he agrees with blanchard on the hsts agp classification but he renames agp to mef because of masochistic emasculation being a cause rather than ETLE
>ETLEs in other fetishes
which ones?
i think his theory is not compatible with a female essence or soul
but there are sexual imprints which could be hereditary or formed during childhood which have an interplay with the trauma
i think it's mainstream trans theories that believe in a trans essence inner girl and what not
only time he talks about elusive stuff is when he's talking about abstract masochism but some trannies do like sissy content and it's helpful in understanding how agp transitioners loose arousal from agp thoughts when late into transition because they loose the sense of underlying maleness
normally it's explained as loss of libido
there are lot of other psychological phenomenon where the underlying cause is shrouded by some other outer feelings


Anonymous 07/29/2023 (Sat) 16:52 [Preview] No.55 [X] del >>56
>>54
>theres definitely an inherent shame in being compared to something feminine
there's nothing inherently shameful about femininity, perhaps what you mean to say is that males can be shamed for being feminine, which is true, but it's not always the case in every situation
nor does the mere comparison to femininity cause trauma, you would have to be deeply insecure to be bothered by that
>don't think he denies agp...except there's always a sense of underlying maleness and emasculation even when it's not depicted as such
that's denial right there, agps imagine themselves as being women, not being men
he makes assumptions like those freely showing a deep misunderstanding of what agp actually is
>which ones?
Search up "Elaborating and Testing Erotic Target Identity Inversion Theory in Three Paraphilic Samples", they investigate attraction to animals, amputation, and fat people
>i think his theory is not compatible with a female essence or soul
What I'm saying is that like the female soul conclusion he is trying to make stuff up to justify his own conclusion
He believes MEF to be the solution to everything, so then he works backward to reinterpret anything as being rooted in masochistic emasculation
Of course if you judge everything to be masochistic, you affirm your own opinions, it's faulty circular logic
>only time he talks about elusive stuff...
it's him trying to justify the existence of something that's not there, another term for this is called "bullshitting"
>some trannies do like sissy content
Yeah, SOME. Not all. There can maybe be some examples of sissy content which are MEF in nature, but not all of us are sissies in the first place

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Anonymous 07/30/2023 (Sun) 06:49 [Preview] No.56 [X] del >>57
>>55
men have an evolutionary need to be perceived as masculine and they're more imaginative so the emasculation can often be self inflicted
(side point: any society that takes up equality of genders most often ends emasculating men rather than actually empowering women to level the field)
i think when wxhluyp says 'underlying maleness' he's referring to an organism's subconcious awareness of what it is and to keep being what it is just like a living organism has an inherent drive to keep being alive
when an agp is thoroughly convinced of wanting to become a woman that is a very advanced stage of his self identification with the idea
i guess you want to know what part does attraction to women or a man's regular gynephilic tendency play in all this, that i don't know yet
one of the things wxhluyp says about modern sissies is that they're burdened with the idea of self identity as a result of 'tiktokification' of sissy sphere which has blurred the distinction between sexual desire and identity
here he asks us to learn from the past ie boomer sissies when mef was present in it's raw distilled form


Anonymous 07/30/2023 (Sun) 08:59 [Preview] No.57 [X] del
>>56
>men have an evolutionary need to be perceived as masculine
is this stuff wxhlyup actually says to people? lol
He sounds like a "redpill alpha male" blogger who does this fetish theorizing in his freetime
"evolutionary need" is just a narrative that that evopsych/evobio bloggers give to explain shit they see in the wild, it is in no way true and is easily debunked by counter examples
1. the mere existence of feminine men 2. shy sensitive boys are obviously unmasculine naturally (rather than fem in most cases) 3. strong CDs and agps, who often NEED to crossdress or transition to relieve their gender dysphoria, etc

normal men on the other hand expend zero effort to be masculine of course, unlike the other groups mentioned where it's more of a painful performance

>any society that takes up equality of genders...emasculating men rather than empowering women...
I can agree with this, but counterpoint: these societies are more suitable for agps since there is less of a need to be masculine

>'underlying maleness' ... organism's subconcious awareness of what it is ... keep being what it is ... inherent drive to keep being alive
this sounds like an attempt to ape at a "soul" or "inner nature" without using "woo-woo" spiritual terms
the issue is that agps and the other aforementioned groups have a different sense of self than normal men, so that self might include being fem or becoming a woman
it also discounts to what degree these traits are learned, it's not all nature or nurture, organism are adaptive

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