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Anonymous 11/16/2025 (Sun) 12:21 [Preview] No. 72464
Just over 15 years ago, when the Democrat-controlled House and the Democrat-controlled Senate were debating the healthcare proposals offered by the Democrat president, nearly everyone on the political right was unified in opposition. It may well have been the last time the right was united on anything, but it was indeed unified and resolute.

Congresswoman Michelle Bachmann (MN) warned that “This monstrosity of a bill will not only destroy the private healthcare market, it will lead to massive increases in premiums and rationed care.” Congressman (and eventual vice-presidential nominee and Speaker of the House) Paul Ryan (WI) complained that “This bill is a fiscal Frankenstein. It’s a government takeover that will explode costs and kill jobs.” Senator (and Republican Leader) Mitch McConnell (KY) insisted that Americans “want reforms that lower costs, not a trillion-dollar government experiment.”

Even the Heritage Foundation — in the news lately for purportedly exacerbating rifts in the conservative coalition — likewise agreed with everyone in the movement, insisting that Obamacare was a disaster waiting to happen and would keep none of the promises that it made, all while destroying what was good and valuable in the private insurance market.

More than a decade later, when it was clear that the system was in trouble and that only greater government intervention and spending could save it, the Heritage Foundation took something of a victory lap, detailing Obamacare’s manifest failures and arguing that it was long past time to scrap the whole experiment.

The ACA dramatically increased health insurance premiums and cost-sharing in the individual market…
The ACA collapsed insurer competition in the nation’s individual markets…
The ACA failed to meet official enrollment targets in the individual markets…
The ACA is pricing middle-class Americans out of individual market coverage…
The ACA expanded government coverage while wrecking the private individual health insurance market…
The ACA compromised access to care for persons — including those with pre-existing medical conditions — enrolled in the nation’s individual markets…
The ACA failed—and failed miserably to attract young people into the exchange insurance pools…
The ACA’s vaunted delivery reforms did not yield the anticipated savings.

Everything Republicans warned would happen did happen. And the Democrats’ response was to offer a massive “temporary” increase in subsidies to help paper over the failures. Again, every sentient person in the country insisted that doing so would be a disaster, that the subsidies would only increase costs, and that they would not be temporary.

Worse still, in addition to sticking their fingers in their ears and ignoring the experiences of the last decade and a half, the Democrats are actually blaming the Republicans for all of the healthcare system’s problems, insisting that the GOP is somehow responsible for their delusions.

Normal people, of course, think that the institutions created by Obamacare are destructive, costly, and ultimately ineffective. And we know they believe this because so many of them said so before the system was ever put in place. The Democrats disagree, and they will not be dissuaded from their course by any appeals to theory or experience. They want to keep the institutions and keep reforming them until they inevitably find the right formula.


Anonymous 11/16/2025 (Sun) 21:09 [Preview] No.72471 del
>wrecking the private individual health insurance market…
No proof.
>The ACA compromised access to care for persons
Total lie.

The ACA helped thousands of people get care who can’t afford it. Biden helped get costs down for drugs like insulin. Trump & repub increased costs for everything he touched.

Republicans have helped absolutely nobody.

Suck a fucking dick you complete faggot!!!!


Anonymous 11/16/2025 (Sun) 22:22 [Preview] No.72477 del
>>72471
Healthcare costs have gone up over the years despite Obamacare and insurance is still expensive. The taxpayer subsidies benefit the oligarchs most. If you want healthcare subsidies it should at the very least go directly to the people to pay for whatever healthcare plan they choose. That would be far more fair.


Anonymous 11/16/2025 (Sun) 22:24 [Preview] No.72478 del
>>72471
>Republicans have helped absolutely nobody.
They could, IF they reformed it. I don't know if they will or not, it would be a damn shame if not because they go do a lot better.


Anonymous 11/18/2025 (Tue) 17:41 [Preview] No.72536 del
Trump floated the idea of giving low- and middle-income Americans a direct payment of $2,000 rather than providing a subsidy that is paid to insurance companies.

That would allow people to purchase their own insurance, Trump said in a Nov. 8 social media post. The president added that this would avoid putting more money into a health coverage system that, he said, provided inferior health coverage.

The White House is in discussion with lawmakers about the idea, Trump told reporters on Nov. 14.

“I’ve had personal talks with some Democrats,” he said, adding that the plan would allow consumers to negotiate their own price with an insurer.

Sen. Rick Scott (R-Fla.) is drafting legislation for a similar plan now. His plan would send money directly to individual Health Savings Accounts, much like Trump suggested.

“They can use it to spend on healthcare, so they can buy direct health care, or they can buy insurance, or [use it for] a co-payment or deductible,” Scott told Reporters on Nov. 10.

Consumers could use the funds to buy any plan authorized by their state’s insurance commission, he added.


Anonymous 11/18/2025 (Tue) 17:45 [Preview] No.72537 del
Republicans generally have been reluctant to extend the enhanced subsidies without also addressing abuse of the Obamacare system, which they say rose dramatically after those subsidies were introduced.

The expiration date indicates that the subsidies were not considered a long-term solution, Dr. Mehmet Oz, administrator of the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services, said in a Fox News interview on Nov. 16.

“It creates incentives for fraud,” he said.

“Instead of paying insurance companies to manage our money, let’s trust Americans to manage their own care — with a pre-funded Federal Flexible Spending Account,” he said.

A Flexible Spending Account is similar to a Health Savings Account but is not owned by the individual and does not roll over from year to year.

Commercial health insurance premiums have risen every year since 2008, according to Health System Tracker, a data collection site run by the nonprofits The Peterson Center on Healthcare and KFF.


Anonymous 11/25/2025 (Tue) 08:59 [Preview] No.72784 del
juboeur9


Anonymous 03/10/2026 (Tue) 03:18 [Preview] No.75459 del
wow


Anonymous 05/11/2026 (Mon) 11:10 [Preview] No.77470 del
>>72464
>electoral politics slop
when will people learn that voting doesn't mean anything and actually legitimizes the ruling class


Anonymous 05/21/2026 (Thu) 02:50 [Preview] No.77716 del
>>77470
Don't use that word.
Say goyslop
And only use it in reference to foodstuffs.
Or when making foodstuffs analogies.
Don't let (((them))) corrupt our language.


Anonymous 05/23/2026 (Sat) 16:06 [Preview] No.77768 del
Just be like every other civilized Western country and enact single-payer already. The healthcare problem was solved more than half a century ago.


Anonymous 06/02/2026 (Tue) 02:26 [Preview] No.77980 del
>>77768
Universal healthcare sucks.
Trust me I live in canuckistan and have a long history with the medical system here.
The choice isnt universal healthcare vs American style healthcare.
The thing we should be doing is asking why medical treatment is so damn expensive in the first place.
Now a totally private healthcare market existed once.
There are a free market for medical treatment and you saw prices be so low that the government was petitioned to make medical care more expensive.
And now people are complaining its too expensive.
Much of the problems in America are due to policies made a long time ago that the average American is unaware exist and which the media will never bring to their awareness.
For example corporations didn't used to be as greedy and shortsighted as they are now and you have dodge vs ford to blame for this changing to the current state of affairs.


Anonymous 06/02/2026 (Tue) 11:08 [Preview] No.77983 del
What socialists do not understand is that every resource, every bit of service, costs $$$$. There is no way around it. The question is where does the $$$$ come from to give you "free" (HA!) resources and services? You have to EXTRACT $$$$ from someone or something to pay for it, or you run out of $$$$ and everything closes down and fails. So to the socialists here, God knows there are, how and from where do you extract the necessary $$$$ to pay for "free" healthcare? You do understand doctors don't work for free and medicine won't be made unless they are all PAID, right? If you think I'll be a nurse for free taking care of random people for no pay you are out of your freaking mind never going to happen!


Anonymous 06/02/2026 (Tue) 11:23 [Preview] No.77984 del
>>77980
It goes something like this. If I'm going to be a doctor and help take care of you, well motherfucker I'm being paid to do it, I ain't doing that shit for free. Same with the pharmaceutical companies, if they are providing resources to make drugs they won't give that shit away for nothing, they can't, they have costs to pay too. There is no such thing as "free" in this world UNLESS you have people willing to sacrifice their resources and services to GIVE IT AWAY AT NO COST. Otherwise "free" is just fallacy.

If I were to drink a bottle of booze every other night, think I go to a hospital and they'll give me a free liver transplant that costs them $60,000 or more???? HAHAHAHA! That ain't happening.

If we want to reduce costs, #1 get the government OUT of healthcare because governments are notorious for raising costs and burden, and #2 force the providers to compete with one another by making everything based on consumer choice, including health insurance, cut out all middle men and bureaucrats, people get to decide for themselves, if something costs too much people won't pay it, they'll seek other options. This will force free market competition and companies to lower prices to attract consumers. NO BAILOUTS. Let the market run as intended, 100% consumer choice, no bailouts, no subsidy, no government intervention!


Anonymous 06/02/2026 (Tue) 16:50 [Preview] No.77990 del
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>>77980
>>77984
Yes goy, do not redeem the universal healthcare


Anonymous 06/02/2026 (Tue) 17:09 [Preview] No.77991 del
>>77990
If you desire reduced health insurance costs we need to get the government OUT of healthcare and insurance policy because governments are notorious for raising costs and burden. We also need force insurance and healthcare providers to compete with one another by making everything based on consumer choice, including health insurance, cut out all middle men, kikes and bureaucrats. People should get to decide for themselves what they wish to pay for, if coverage costs too much people just won't pay it, they'll seek other options. This will FORCE companies into free market competition and there will be lower prices to attract consumers back into the market. (((NO GOVT BAILOUTS))) Let the market run as intended, 100% consumer choice, no bailouts, no subsidy, no government intervention!

The healthcare system has only been getting more and more expensive the more Congress and Government get involved. Want lower costs? Go back to the free market system, competition, consumer choice.


Anonymous 06/02/2026 (Tue) 18:49 [Preview] No.77993 del
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>>77991
Yes goy, we need less government!


Anonymous 06/02/2026 (Tue) 19:52 [Preview] No.77994 del
>>77993
We used to have the best, AND CHEAPEST, healthcare system 40 years ago. There was far less intervention, regulations and policy mandates 40 years ago. Do you want to go back to the good old days, or do you want to continue paying higher and higher prices with more and more mandates, regulations and interventions?


Anonymous 06/02/2026 (Tue) 19:59 [Preview] No.77995 del
>>77980
>The thing we should be doing is asking why medical treatment is so damn expensive in the first place.

When the government mandated everyone get health insurance it was the same thing that happened to government sponsored student loans to attend colleges. Prices went way up. Institutions became greedy and wanted consumers paying more for their services. Insurance companies got rich. Just like American colleges got rich off the government backed and government enforced student loans. Now everyone cries "why! why! why! oh the injustice" yet these are the same people supporting government intervention in the market place, they wanted government to "solve" something and well they ended up taking money from us and giving it to their crony friends on wall street. That's all that happened.


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>>77994
>>77995
Very organic saars


Anonymous 06/02/2026 (Tue) 20:02 [Preview] No.77997 del
>>77993
Having more government isn't always the answer to everything. Tell me what good it does when the whole fucking government is CORRUPT? How is more corruption going to solve anything?


Anonymous 06/02/2026 (Tue) 20:03 [Preview] No.77998 del
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Anonymous 06/02/2026 (Tue) 20:09 [Preview] No.77999 del
>>77996
Did rent in New York City get any lower? How about Obamacare? Did it ever lower healthcare costs? Did Obama's federal student loan program grant you free college, or did you end up a debt slave? Did the FDA take toxins out of our food yet, or is the skyrocketing cancer and diabetes rates today? What is the EPA doing to protect water from scarcity by data center over-consumption? Did we win the war on terror yet? Did we win the war on drugs? Did price inflation go down when Congress spent $40 Trillion on national debt? What about that war on poverty? Whatever happened to that?



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