I don't sow anything for the winter. I think I could both radish and garlic, but I just won't probably. But now that I'm thinking maybe I'll try. We still have tomato ripening and a bunch of grapes on the vines.
I don't celebrate harvest. I'm not sure how it goes in the country, I remember celebrating new bread (it is done even on August 20 as well).
>harvest moon
You mean the full moon we have no (had yesterday)?

Also this thread isn't showing up for me on the first page. I saw it only with the Eye of Sauron.

is this a crypto w33d blaze it thread?

>>29117
Now it's an open dude radish lmao, graze it thread.

>>29117
Nah, it's just a gardening enthusiasts thread. Come join us.

Winter's coming so most crops will be dying soon sadly

I grew a slavic garlic (the big spicy kind) this year but instead of drying it just rotted. The french garlic did fine.

Can anyone slavic tell me how you dry your garlics? I hung mine up with my french.

>>29143
>slavic garlic
>french garlic

What? Hmm, is there non-slavic garlic?

t. heard about "slavic" garlic literally first time.

>>29144
>t. heard about "slavic" garlic literally first time.
Ditto.

>>29143
In my family we call big garlics artificial Chinese ones. And yes, many times they are chink import.

>>29144
sames
wtf I though garlic is garlic

>>29143
But here's an actual advice: hang them at a dry breezy place.

>>29150
>hung up near my bedroom window which is kept open
Sounds good, not sure what can be the problem. Maybe air is damp?
Maybe they should be placed to a sunny spot (with breeze). I dunno.
Our garden is awful for garlic. I figure the soil is too compact, clayey. I thought about mixing those parts where the garlic would go with some lighter textured soil, maybe with what one can buy for flowers, and with a little sand. I'm not even sure if acidic or basic soil would be better, I read it matters for quite a few plants.

>>29151
First, it wont need ericaceous compost. Second, bulb sets prefer a firm soil or at the very least don't mind. It might be a drainage issue, try adding sand, but not beach sand as it's full of salt. Try concreting sand (not actual concrete mix full of stone, just the sand) or any washed sand.
Planting in the autumn will give them more time to grow for bigger bulbs.

I kinda gave up on growing vegetables since the soil in my area is shit tier and my potted chillis in the house got fucked by pests. I have a bretty good supply of herbs though (no DUDE WEED unfortunately)

>>29172
Are you really from Chile? Tell me about Chilean hats.
>soil in my area is shit tier
Just get some guano from the north. You conquered that piece of land for a reason.

>>29172
I really only have a patch of concrete hence I grow in tubs and sacks.

>>29173
I'm a bong (unfortunately), my flag got fucked on the new domain. Maybe you could go for a Pinochet hat though.
>>29174
Yeah UK gardens are awful. I have some grass but it's rich with clay so most vegetables don't grow.

>>29180
>>29183
The people I'm posting with on the same board...

>>29185
lel, in reality I think the users of this board would be too autistic to actually obtain a drug dealer's contact info

>>29211
Yes. We don't do anything illegal.

Winter is just around the corner. Will this thread hibernate til spring?

test

>>31614
wtf im in Ukraine

>>31615
Not anymore you don't. At least now you don't have to suffer.

Anyone take my advice and be a panic grower this year? I turned an area in a neighbours field for veg yesterday.

Where is my ball? :/

>>36314
I have a lot of paving and such that needs to be done, then after that I should have a nice spot to do some.

>>36315

Balls are quarantined due to coronavirus infection. Please stay for further updates.

Tubs are coming along also.

>>36316
Very nice bernd. Are you going to have time to plant this season?

Whoops, no pic

It's getting too late to plant stuff. Maybe later for winter crops.

>>36315
>>36317
It's a sitewide problem.

>>36321
Where are you from? Many things you should still perfectly in time to plant even from seed.

>>36429
Hungary.

>>36433
So you are not too late, a lot of the summer crops you can still plant: green beans, long beans, tomatoes, peppers, salads etc.
The problem could be that you have to prepare the soil but you could start most of your seedlings in trays indoors and move them out when you are ready.
You won't be the first to have tomatoes but you can still get a couple months worth if you got good weather.
In what state is your land/garden?

>>36435
I'm aware. We always have tomatoes. But as you said, via seedlings. Not much can be done now if you only have seeds.

>>36436
Dude I'm still putting seed in the soil at this time.
You are still in time to start your tomatoes. Just start them indoors keeping them above 20 degrees so they go faster.
I like to use an old oven that I keep the light on so it holds 22C.
Pumpkins, corn, beans, summer squash, salads, green beans, melon, radishes, carrots: all these can go directly in the soil now that it's warmer at night. The reason we plant them in pots beforehand is just to speed up the process but they should still give good results.

>>36438
We already have the seedlings.

>>36440
Oh great then. I thought you were giving up thinking it's too late.
Here I've got myself into large production and I planted about 250 tomato seeds, luckily only about half have sprouted.
Already running out of space outside and the seedling trays are still quite full.

>>36443
>125 tomato plants
Wow, I'm jaf.

>>36440
I'm putting in my seed today. Bean, radish, carrot and onion. Don't despair, there is still time. I get stuff started in pots usually anyway for the tubs, because I have to wait for stuff to finish before planting out.

>>36444
Me too, I just happened to have a good plot of land where I'm at and with the virus and all decided to think big. Gonna be drying most of them along with the peppers and canning the rest. We'll see.
Also with about 20 pumpkin plants there will be a good reserve for the winter as they store for months.
How do the bagged potatoes come out? I read it could be finicky a bit hard to get them right compared to ones in the soil. Also beans in case you don't know don't like to be changed of position so sow them straight where they will reside.
But good job everything's looking good you are quite ahead for being in the uk.
I recommend following moon cycles when seeding and transplanting, it really makes a difference.

>>36471
Yes, my first mentor was on a biodynamic farm. I understand the practice well but don't strictly follow the cycle.
The problem with the sacks is they are a bugger for causing scab because they drain so well. Yield is often surprisingly good. I've tried adding some ground charcoal soaked in piss this year to keep them moist, so we shall see.

>>36484
Must have been nice to start off with such god practices.
Why don't you follow it anymore, too bothersome or could not see benefits? Personally I have yet to observer the effectiveness of working on certain leaf/fruit/root/flower days, but the general moon cycle for seeding that is easy to see there are pretty big benefits to be gained.

For the scab maybe you could give the bags a wrap in plastic film to reduce the evaporation? It can be commonly found here in bins outside large surface businesses, Pallets come wrapped in tons of it.
For the charcoal I have had multiple testimonies that works wonder. I even seen a magnificent garden reclaimed from the surrounding "desert" just though the process of adding charcoal over the years. It will act like a sponge retaining moisture and nutrients while adding carbon to the soil making it lighter.
I was dabbling with the idea to make one of those mounds to make a batch of charcoal.

Yesterday I received the last package of seeds, some other 20 species go into the soil, now I will have to dig some more soil up because available space is starting to be small.
Notable plants I'm particularly excited to have: physalis, tatsoi spoon chinese cabbage, taiwanese lamb's quarter, buck's-horn plantain and nepalese amaranth and some other ancient types of more common vegetables.

>>36571
Damn why have become Russian?
Had posted from the .net domain.

>>36572
>Damn why have become Russian?

It doesn't matter anyway. Now you are one of us.

>>36571
>Also beans in case you don't know don't like to be changed of position so sow them straight where they will reside.
First, I just wanted to reply to this quick. Certain beans need to face forward once established if moved but the big issue being the legumes relationship with the soil. I've gotten away with it but only young plants. Another tip is to never grow legumes in sterile soil, that store bought 'compost' wood chip can be very sterile and lack the bacteria required by the plant. Bacteria will get in but the legumes will have been stunted. So, I'm not disagreeing with the rule but in my experience it can be bent a little if need be.

>>36571
>Why don't you follow it anymore, too bothersome or could not see benefits?
If I'm not careful, this might get a little in depth. Steiner was highly opposed to parrots, the idea of giving simple explanations in biodynamics is expressly forbidden, knowledge must be experienced. As such, certain practices like following of the moon cycle can seem a little out of place in a system of growing. The moon cycle was to serve two purposes, first to use something easily followed by peasant farmers to better schedule and regiment growing practices and second to align growing with natural progression. On a small scale, the former is not very relevant but the latter is still useful. Something I was shown is how all plants align with the natural progression. When I see snow drops, I begin germinating seed and when I see daffodils I begin sowing seed and planting out and when the spring blossoms die and the trees have opened their leaves I start my less cold tolerant summer crops. I group my crops by fruits, shoots, roots and legumes. It gets a little more specific to each crop from this point but I hope I've made myself clear.

>For the scab maybe you could give the bags a wrap in plastic film to reduce the evaporation?
I believe the main problem is the low soil volume, like how a small potted plant dries out in the sun quicker than in a large pot. I'm hoping increasing the moisture retention of the soil should negate this but wrapping in plastic and sufficiently mulching the surface is another approach I shall bear in mind, thank you.
Hopefully the charcoal will work, it's very effective in sub-Saharan Africa when used in combination with legume trees. You should soak in piss though as the charcoal acts like clay as it dries and will draw in nutrients. If you are unaware, the drying causes fracturing which breaks bonds creating a negative attraction. Commonly called cation exchange capacity it will draw in the positive ions of the nutrients in the surrounding soil making it less spread out and available to your plant roots. Soaking in piss first negates this.

>Yesterday I received the last package of seeds
Very nice, most seed sellers here are completely sold out, something unheard of. Thankfully I buy all my seed in the winter so I had everything anyway but many are struggling here.
Is your Amaranth a Quinoa or that pictured? It's a nice grain to be sure both ornamental and edible. What type of Physalis are you growing? That's one I always planned on growing personally but never got around to it. Some fun exotics you have their, I hope you have a nice crop from each, though I must admit the buck's-horn plantain doesn't look very appetising. I'd not head of it but got a little excited to see you were growing a plantain, only to see something a bit weedy. Still though, I hope it tastes better than it looks. My growing list this season is rather tame compared to yours apart from my latest addition, a jostaberry, a a pectin rich sort of sweet gooseberry. It's a very aggressive grower but will take some time to get established so no harvest this year.

>>36571
>I was dabbling with the idea to make one of those mounds to make a batch of charcoal.
I'm tempted too. Neighbours would kill me.
When I was a kid I still could see charcoal burners in the woods. Once with my pops we talked with them, they explained the whole thing, how they build the pile, how they light it, air it or choke it depending. Kinda remember it, but if I build one probably would find the holes in my memory.

>>36572
Gribdo golony.

Now that we are talking about charcoal.
Shouldn't forget wood ash. Breddy gud fertilizer, since contains nitrogen. Besides can help with soil acidity, since due to its basic pH (can be used to make lye), but this is plant specific, some prefers acidic soils. Sadly I've no list about this. I think.

>>36584
The ideal soil acidity for the majority of temperate plants is 6.5. Some will happily tolerate lower acidities, like potatoes while a few will actually require it like blueberries. This has to do with the nutrients required by the plant and their roots only being able to absorb those nutrients at lower levels.
I don't recommended this but I knew a soil scientist who could pretty accurately tell you the pH by tasting the soil.
In addition, hardwood ash is high in potassium which is an important addition for fruit crops like tomatoes.

I saw the charcoal heap on TV but have never done it. Anything you remember of it? I will try to hunt down an infographic, there must be one.

>>36590
>potassium
Pot-ash-ium. Mysterious English language. Why not just call it kalium as normal people do?

>charcoal heap
Well, they shoved a pole into the ground, as the center of the pile (it also served to measure the height) and they made a nest at the base of it for the fire. They piled the wood around, larger logs in the center and smaller ones outside. They also left a chimney in the middle I think, but for sure they made a narrow tunnel on ground level where they pushed a pole to the center with flames on it to start the fire. I'm not sure how this "match" was prepared, if it had open flame (let's say was tarred or something), or just kept tip in fire and used the hot coal on it. They built "shelves" around, put short logs around the perimeter, and laid logs/branches on them, and then covered the mound with earth I think (this part I can't recall well) using these "shelves" running around as support, leaving the ground level open so air could be sucked in. Then when they judged it enough, they covered that level too, to slow down the burn, and just let the heat charring the wood over.
The piles were over a man height, and maybe 5 ms in diameter (not sure). I think such pile burned for days.
I remember the burners were covered in soot (like blackface, kek), and smoke covered half the valley.
I assume you have to be excellent making a nest, since if you fuck up, and you can't ignite the fire, you have to tear down half the fucking pile, to redo it.

I remembered this guy making charcoal in a simpler way:
https://youtube.com/watch?v=HVs75-A7PEo [Embed]
https://youtube.com/watch?v=I1jAo7qd_Q8 [Embed] (in a trench)
https://youtube.com/watch?v=ixtxNfU9Rb8 [Embed]

If I cook something outside or we roast salo, I usually burn more stuff laying around, the "waste" of the garden, and get ash and coals, and I shovel that to the parts we cultivate.

>>36592
Asked pops, he said they build those shelves around and pile the earth upon them.

>>36594
That's pretty clever, I wouldn't have thought of that.

In other news, caught some black birds playing in my veg tubs earlier, made a fucking mess. Ordered some pinwheels to scare them off.

>>36640
Dawww.
>this lockdown drives me mad
Yeah, yeah. We all suspected you have heart anyway.

>>36640
Anyway. Having a couple of plants is not a bad idea. You get better air quality, and more humidity, which is good for your nasal mucosa. And they only need a little water every couple of days.

>>36640
Now you have someone to talk to. You will know you are mad when you accidentally kill the plant in a heated argument.

>>36644
>talking to plant in commieblock
Maybe his neighbour can dub the plant (through the walls).

>>36643
>Anyway. Having a couple of plants is not a bad idea. You get better air quality, and more humidity, which is good for your nasal mucosa.

I don't think that one or even several plant can improve air quality. I've heard about studies about this, they said you need dozens of plants for one person to get some effects. So it is more psychological.

Also surprising, but this plant participated in some NASA study and even removed some benzene from air: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NASA_Clean_Air_Study

I also have two small cactuses (cacti?) that were given as gifts, they are old and became yellow. I guess some fertilizer or such is needed for them too.

>>36644

If you talk to the plants, it isn't madness. Real madness begins when they start to talk with you.

>>36650
>at least one plant per 100 square feet (9.3 m2)
>under sealed space station conditions and research conducted since has shown mixed results in the home or office.
You get a dozen and you're set.

>>36650
isnt activated charcoal far more effective at improving air quality

or just open your bloody windows

>>36664
>just open your bloody windows
That might work for me (not really, I feel the air very different in the woods and around the neighbourhood), but sure won't work in a commieblock jungle.
>activated charcoal
I think some gas masks use that for filtration so must work. In a home to filter the air it has to be pumped through charcoal it's not enough to have it laying around, ergo some appliance is needed for that. Like or circulator or something. Might not be a bad idea if one has cheap electricity. Maybe a small gadget could be run by a small-ish/portable solar panel. It should be like a tube, sucks the air in one end, and blows out on the other. Maybe two (or even one) cpu fan could do the trick. Slap a replaceable charcoal filter in the middle, enjoy the breeze of the mountains.
I think we are onto something. If we could perfect this thing and make it to production, /kc/ might get rich.

>>39513
You have any animals that fertilize the soil?

>>39513
Don't worry, they are just detoxifying your veggies. Soon they will be very healthy.

>>39514
Occasionally water from a fish tank/lake, just that.

What is Bernd's excuse for not growing this?

>>40675
I've seen it in pots as decoration. Don't think it's popular to grow in gardens hereabout.

>>40675
Oh. Which begs the question. What do you use it for?

>>40677
Food. It's called "garden fish". Breaded and fried it's a juicy delicacy.

>>40679
Still thinking about it but feels kinda random to use that as food. I know it's just we don't used to it, like how Chinese eat animals we consider pets. Or how it's okay to consume horse at certain places but not others (here not many people it horses and has the generic western mentality about them).

End of growing season here, maybe there's still time to shove down some cloves of garlic, I just don't have the will to do anything in the soggy garden. Still have to clean away some weeds and shit I don't wanna leave them for next spring.

How expensive is land in brazil?

>>40737
Do you eat the leaves of the amaranth?
>Which of them do you eat?
To be honest I rarely eat any of them. Many edible weed, or maybe I should write herb, we have around here, not just in gardens but growing wild all about. But I don't know them, well only a couple, like the nettle or dandelion. They taste nothing, like grass basically so I pass on. They could be prepared into meals, cooked, seasoned, we just don't bother. Mom sometimes makes nettle soup, pottage tho, seasoned with garlic (and salt and stuff). Also nettle is good for tea. Not tasty tea.
So this leaves mint and lemon balm to consume, again as tea. Although on rare occasion I chew on a mint leaf or two.

>>40751
>Do you eat the leaves of the amaranth?
The smallest branches with leaves on them, but not raw.
>They taste nothing, like grass basically so I pass on
I don't find these two any worse than other salad items, so they're free efortless food.

Grow some oranges tasty

>>40760
Here. Have an Hungarian orange.