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Reality - the most important subject Bernd 02/28/2019 (Thu) 09:48:13 [Preview] No. 23481 [Reply] [Last 50 Posts]
Below you will find the extraction from the book of David Deutsch, "The fabric of Reality", which feels very appealing to my taste. What do you think about our ability to comprehend Reality in general, or about the book, if you've read it?

Now I return to the question I posed in the previous chapter, namely whether, if we had only a virtual-reality rendering based on the wrong laws of physics to learn from, we should expect to learn the wrong laws. The first thing to stress is that we *do* have only virtual reality based on the wrong laws to learn from! As I have said, all our external experiences are of virtual reality, generated by our own brains. And since our concepts and theories (whether inborn or learned) are never perfect, all our renderings are indeed inaccurate. That is to say, they give us the experience of an environment that is significantly different from the environment that we are really in. Mirages and other optical illusions are examples of this. Another is that we experience the Earth to be at rest beneath our feet, despite its rapid and complex motion in reality. Another is that we experience a single universe, and a single instance of our own conscious selves at a time, while in reality there are many. But these inaccurate and misleading experiences provide no argument against scientific reasoning. On the contrary, such deficiencies are its very starting-point.
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Bernd 03/19/2019 (Tue) 11:53:11 [Preview] No.23873 del
>>23871
>What could be the source of existence? As you can see, that was non-existence.

"We find in nature things that are possible to be and not to be, since they are found to be generated, and to corrupt, and consequently, they are possible to be and not to be. But it is impossible for these always to exist, for that which is possible not to be at some time is not. Therefore, if everything is possible not to be, then at one time there could have been nothing in existence. Now if this were true, even now there would be nothing in existence, because that which does not exist only begins to exist by something already existing. Therefore, if at one time nothing was in existence, it would have been impossible for anything to have begun to exist; and thus even now nothing would be in existence — which is absurd. Therefore, not all beings are merely possible, but there must exist something the existence of which is necessary. But every necessary thing either has its necessity caused by another, or not. Now it is impossible to go on to infinity in necessary things which have their necessity caused by another, as has been already proved in regard to efficient causes. Therefore we cannot but postulate the existence of some being having of itself its own necessity, and not receiving it from another, but rather causing in others their necessity. This all men speak of as God."

And although you weren't implying this, I would like to add that the Big Bang Theory is in no way a refutation against God, in fact, it was formulated by a Catholic priest: Georges Lemaître.


Bernd 03/19/2019 (Tue) 13:18:20 [Preview] No.23877 del
>>23873
>We find in nature things that are possible to be and not to be, since they are found to be generated, and to corrupt, and consequently, they are possible to be and not to be.
I see a problem here, look. An object can only exist, because if it doesn't exist, there is no object we could perceive directly. This misunderstanding arises from our believe into equality of object and our recollection of that object.

That's also the way we misunderstand Time. Because of memory we think there is Past. We extrapolate Past into the other way and that way we invent Future. But what if we stick to Now only? Then an object exists (if it's perceived), or doesn't exist, (if it isn't perceived). And if we can't perceive an object which we don't have recollection of, there is essentially no object to speak about. In that case we don't even know that we don't know about some object.

>that which does not exist only begins to exist by something already existing
What is an object? Would you agree that it's some amount of matter configured in some specific way? Thus, we can tell two objects are differ if they have different configuration of matter. Talking about existence I meant rather that matter than fleeting objects formed with it. And of course, once matter exists, it configuration is constantly changes, that's why we experience causality of events. But what about the matter itself? Where it came from?

>Therefore we cannot but postulate the existence of some being having of itself its own necessity, and not receiving it from another, but rather causing in others their necessity. This all men speak of as God.
I don't think God is being, because "to be" means "to exist", which means to obey the causality principle. But what if God is another name for non-existence?


Bernd 03/19/2019 (Tue) 19:40:18 [Preview] No.23883 del
>>23871
Well that's the good old "nothing is nothing, not even nothing" problem. Quite exciting.
There was God who emanated so make it possible for self-reflection.


Bernd 03/19/2019 (Tue) 19:47:15 [Preview] No.23885 del
>>23883
Eh I made a mistake. It's: "nothing isn't nothing, not even nothing". In English it sounds weird.


Bernd 03/19/2019 (Tue) 19:56:19 [Preview] No.23886 del
>>23885
>nothing isn't nothing, not even nothing
Sounds good!



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Bernd 02/23/2019 (Sat) 02:55:24 [Preview] No. 23406 [Reply] [Last 50 Posts]
Are Brazilians welcome in Russia?
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Bernd 03/19/2019 (Tue) 07:25:41 [Preview] No.23870 del
>>23865
the fuck is he doing?

and if given to explain, what's up with >>>/librejp/143792 ?


Bernd 03/19/2019 (Tue) 09:44:41 [Preview] No.23872 del
>>23870
>the fuck is he doing?

He kissed random boy in belly in 2006. No one knows why, he said later that this was emotional act etc etc.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=c72swYTisvY [Embed]

>and if given to explain, what's up with >>>/librejp/143792 ?

That is some Kazakh newscaster doing tongue twister for training. Language is Kazakh of course.


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Bernd 03/19/2019 (Tue) 19:00:41 [Preview] No.23882 del
>>23872
>doing tongue twister for training
That's what I would guess too, he warms up for the news.


Bernd 03/19/2019 (Tue) 19:41:57 [Preview] No.23884 del
>>23870
>>23872
>Putin kiss boy stomach
He just sucks the evil spirit from the boy's soul which lives in stomach.



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Poolitics serial dicksucktion - Frau Merkel Edition Bernd 06/08/2018 (Fri) 15:28:02 [Preview] No. 17063 [Reply] [Last 50 Posts]
Here a nice thread the discuss seriously politics, the Catalonia thread is "File not found". Of course not just Merkel and the like can be topics here but anything really which fits, as usual.
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Bernd 03/17/2019 (Sun) 08:31:09 [Preview] No.23812 del
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Yesterday presidential elections first round were held on the Northern Hungary. The position isn't as strong as in the USA so stakes aren't that high but a president from he opposition can be a problem, especially now.
Here's an article with more:
https://www.politico.eu/article/zuzana-caputova-slovakia-president-election-maros-sefcovic-stefan-harabin/.

The candidates, votes and short comment:
Kaput Zsuzsa - 40,5% - she's from the opposition, backed by a freshly created party.
Sefcsó Márió - 18,7% - backed by the government, right now he is the Vice-Prez of the European Commission
These two above got into the second round.
Karabély István - 14,4% - former Minister of Justice.
Kotláb Máriusz - 10,4% - the leader the nazi L'SNS.
Miklóskai Ferenc - 5,7% - christian-democrat.
Bugár Béla - 3,1% - from the Hungarian Most-Híd party.

It seems the main issue which the leading candidate was able to exploit is the recent government's corruption.


Bernd 03/19/2019 (Tue) 12:34:26 [Preview] No.23875 del
>>23812
Is she liberashka?
>kaput


Bernd 03/19/2019 (Tue) 18:43:16 [Preview] No.23879 del
Looks like endchan is back up. Few hours ago Bolsonaro was in the White House. Trump gave him a football jersey of the unsuccessful US soccer team.


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proofs


Bernd 03/19/2019 (Tue) 18:57:41 [Preview] No.23881 del
>>23875
Looks like it. It wouldn't be a problem but it might be a start of change in the leadership of Northern Hungary. Maybe on legislative elections they pick a party to govern who is more compliant toward Brussels. And here in the east we really need to support each other from the central pressure.
On the other hand those Northern Hungarian parties who have stronger stance against the centralization proponents of the EU are kinda Hungarophobes sadly.

>>23880
US is a mixed bag in football. Sometimes they do fair sometimes worse. They have the money to build world class teams but they don't do it. Just short heda but no culture of football.



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qc Bernd 03/18/2019 (Mon) 19:55:56 [Preview] No. 23851 [Reply] [Last 50 Posts]
What happened to Igor?


Bernd 03/18/2019 (Mon) 20:11:12 [Preview] No.23855 del
Aren't you Igor?
Also we have a Canuck shitposting thread here: >>22604 already.


Bernd 03/19/2019 (Tue) 14:48:01 [Preview] No.23878 del
Is nap time. Igor be back later.



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Shitty maps Bernd 07/28/2018 (Sat) 13:54:48 [Preview] No. 18124 [Reply] [Last 50 Posts]
I've seen a lot of maps like these popping up recently. I'm guessing these come from people who learn European history through Paradox games. This hurts my eyes.
>us wanting to unite with the Swedes, let alone the Dutch and Austrians
>Balkans, let alone the ENTIRE SLAVIC WORLD wanting to unite
>apparently, Istanbul and much of Asia Minor is Greek, yet Königsberg and the rest of Prussia is Slavic
>the Flemish are part of pan Latinism
>Cornwall being that big
>Finns, Estonians, and Hungarians are apparently part of the Indo-European world, but Basques aren't represented in Spain and France
>neither are Caucasians represented in the Caucasus
>Ossetia isn't included as part of the Iranian world
>Evropa, yet the guy who made this map is likely an American who speaks English
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Bernd 03/18/2019 (Mon) 19:32:09 [Preview] No.23848 del
>>23838
What the fug is going on here?


Bernd 03/18/2019 (Mon) 19:44:31 [Preview] No.23849 del
>>23848
Hehh, I wanted to ask this too. Doesn't make sense. I see whoever made this map doesn't like us for sure.


Bernd 03/19/2019 (Tue) 01:07:48 [Preview] No.23863 del
>>23849
we should unify against black&yellow orc army.


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>>23848
>>23849
>>23863
Seems like a quasi-dystopian future projection of European empires vs. evil empire vs. small island evil empire. It'd probably make for some interesting fiction novels.



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VIDEOGAMES THREAD Bernd 06/09/2018 (Sat) 16:17:24 [Preview] No. 17090 [Reply] [Last 50 Posts]
Let's have le grand Official videogames thread.

It's thread, to discuss games.
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Bernd 03/08/2019 (Fri) 21:45:33 [Preview] No.23644 del
>>23640
>erpig


Bernd 03/09/2019 (Sat) 08:42:48 [Preview] No.23645 del
>>23640
Looks fun all in all. The gameplay video: he goes by trial and error which makes it funny. I read some of the comments, with tips among them, and judging by these, it sounds tedious.
>despite having rather simple graphics game is rather demanding
This is very infuriating for me. The games of the last decade are a mess, all these fuckers can't code shit, everything but the most simplistic games are laggy and slugish as fuck. Shitty engine, unoptimized scripting and textures. As I can tell. Like shitty Unity makes fugging Wasteland 2 such, also crash every corner. Fugging Shadowrun R, DF and HK, I liek these games so much but they are so sluggish sometimes I want to butcher the whole Harebrained Schemes studio.


Bernd 03/12/2019 (Tue) 17:28:45 [Preview] No.23687 del
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got a curiously-shaped map
at least insofar as i was able to explore it since i didn't have any mapping or teleporting magic and didn't try boring into the rock either


Bernd 03/12/2019 (Tue) 18:20:05 [Preview] No.23689 del
>>23687
Tell us more.


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found this a bit further down
the orange outline in the centre is a burning underground garden
i didn't find how to cross the blazing walls of fire without taking significant damage both to self and equipment so i'll never know if there was anything to find inside
entertaining weekend, i want more



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Bernd 07/02/2018 (Mon) 17:56:13 [Preview] No. 17649 [Reply] [Last 50 Posts]
I feel empty inside without KC.
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Bernd 03/18/2019 (Mon) 20:31:29 [Preview] No.23858 del
Also soon we are having our BDay here on Endchan. Maybe on the 24th.


Bernd 03/18/2019 (Mon) 20:32:04 [Preview] No.23859 del
>>23858
The second birthday! I forgot to add.


Bernd 03/18/2019 (Mon) 20:54:51 [Preview] No.23860 del
>>23859
of course, I think 8/kc/ existed much longer, but just became active when krautchan had the first longer downtime and it was "our" board.


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>>23530
What happened. Noone is posting on the board?


Bernd 03/19/2019 (Tue) 06:25:52 [Preview] No.23867 del
>>23864
As I mentioned above and asked for a place on sportschan it's primary job of the board would be a bunker for times when Endchan is down. The secondary would be a place to move when Endchan is no more no we don't want End to be DDOS-ed thank you. To establish such a place beforehand is advantageous so when apocalypse ensues all our posters know where to go and won't scatter. I can only hope they read all this here.
I try to post at least a line every day tho. I think yesterday I missed out. I also prepare to post something more substantial there. Don't expect it to be too serious tho.



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New News Thread Bernd 09/25/2018 (Tue) 17:05:25 [Preview] No. 19553 [Reply] [Last 50 Posts]
Previous reached bump limit.

Last week Orbán Viktor's third grandkid was born. The little Anna Adél is his oldest daughter's, Ráhel, second child. Congratulations, Miniszterelnök Úr!
https://index.hu/mindekozben/poszt/2018/09/25/itt_az_elso_foto_orban_harmadik_unokajarol/

Meanwhile in Ghana they punch pedos right in their fruits.
https://www.bbc.com/pidgin/media-45629988
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Bernd 03/18/2019 (Mon) 19:56:54 [Preview] No.23852 del
I just ate a kiwi. I don't know if I should feel bad now.
>>23845
yes, the second most serious newspaper of Switzerland. There are basically only two newspaper empires left in Switzerland besides state media and one yellow press paper. The yellow press paper (Blick) is known under the same name in Hungary (Blicc) and is partly owned by the same Swiss company together with a German media giant.


Bernd 03/18/2019 (Mon) 20:30:06 [Preview] No.23857 del
>>23852
That's Blikk.
Also a great statesman of the 19th century, Széchenyi István, wrote a political satire about the Bach-regime (the Habsburg restoration) with Ein Blick (auf den anonymen "Rückblick") title. The Rückblick was a pro-regime work which tried to make excuses for it. If you are interested it's only about 500 pages, downloadable by clicking on the German title:
http://mek.oszk.hu/16400/16419/
Supposedly it is full of sarcasm, irony and wordplay. It's from an era when prominent Hungarians still spoke several languages excellently.


Bernd 03/18/2019 (Mon) 20:58:13 [Preview] No.23861 del
>>23857
from reading the first few pages, you can immediately recognize a writing style that can only be attributed to Austria or even specifically to Vienna. I don't know of any German who would write in this indirect style, with a narrator that doesn't try to be objective.


Bernd 03/19/2019 (Tue) 00:53:46 [Preview] No.23862 del
>>23844
Mine also made a passing mention to the 8chan. Provincial as it is, its writers had no knowledge of the subject and didn't bother to look it up, just copying other sources and assuming that 8chan = /pol/.

The earlier school shooting also involved imageboards, and they covered that more thoroughly. Several pages were devoted to it and imageboard screencaps (Dogolachan if I'm not mistaken) covered a quarter of a page.


Bernd 03/19/2019 (Tue) 06:17:44 [Preview] No.23866 del
>>23861
That's an interesting tidbit.
He spent his youth in Wien at Court as his aristocrat stature predestined him, so early in his life he probably knew German better than Hungarian. Then he traveled a lot I know England had a great influence on him I dunno if he spent any considerable amount of time in other German states which could influence his way of expressing himself. Most likely not.
He published the book anonymously but it was little doubt whose product could it be. One guiding clue might have been this linguistical peculiarity you mentioned.



Know your troll Bernd 06/07/2018 (Thu) 16:56:14 [Preview] No. 17027 [Reply] [Last 50 Posts]
Know your troll thread.



[spoiler] See new OC on khol int too
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Bernd 06/08/2018 (Fri) 15:15:28 [Preview] No.17061 del
>>17060
Well, then in this case the Friends can be translated as "Has sympathy for:" or something.


Bernd 06/08/2018 (Fri) 15:16:18 [Preview] No.17062 del
Btw. I see numbers. Does anyone have complete collection?


Bernd 06/08/2018 (Fri) 17:11:24 [Preview] No.17068 del
>>17061
My point still applies.
Germany is a very neutered pet to nationalistic Frons.


>>17062
The collection is not really complete, there are still new cards going out.


Bernd 06/08/2018 (Fri) 20:47:08 [Preview] No.17076 del
>>17027
Normally I would mock you frenchball, but these are top quality, thanks!


Bernd 03/18/2019 (Mon) 20:08:01 [Preview] No.23853 del
Am gonna save this thread. Others might have moar cards to poast.



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Bernd 12/27/2018 (Thu) 20:05:08 [Preview] No. 21674 [Reply] [Last 50 Posts]
I'm from CIA and I'm here to see your political leanings.

http://www.politiscales.net/en_US/

take the test, r8 and subscribe.
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Bernd 03/17/2019 (Sun) 19:47:36 [Preview] No.23828 del
>>23827
Pretty sure my devotion to progressism disqualifies me as a stereotypical /pol/tard. I appear to be faintly to the left, but in the sense of "make things better slowly over time," not up against the wall motherfucker, nor viva la revolution.

Fatherland? I ain't so interested in parading down the street in jackboots celebrating the glory of the state and the virtuous culture of its people. I am more locally focused than globally interested though. That's what earns me the "fatherland" moniker, I believe.

The only real issue I take with my result being a feeling that regulationism is over represented. I mistrust devotion to purely public or private solutions. One needs a bit of both to keep things honest. I am biased in favor of regulation over laissez-faire, just not so much as shown.

That "pragmatic" comment's a fair cop. If anything, I'm proud of that label.


Bernd 03/18/2019 (Mon) 01:50:52 [Preview] No.23834 del
>>23824
Good personality.
But it is based not on the real Speer but on the Speer icon he masterfully crafted over the years. He was actually not as aloof as he painted himself and quite image savvy, molding popular opinion to his will. His armaments miracle, though not false, was a joint economic-propaganda project and had critical issues. And later on, like Manstein and other generals, he grealy exaggerated his distance from Hitler and his status as just an un-ideological genius tirelessly working on the task he was given.

>>23827
Not really, it's a varied selection.

>>23823
Posts on an imageboard give a lot of hints, but are an incomplete expression of a personality. They're made from a narrow range of contexts (free time), over a narrow range of topics (kc tier themes) and to a narrow range of receivers (Bernds). Elsewhere Bernds can write or speak in completely different ways.
But reading a lot of posts and making guesses is still a better method of personality interpretation than any test like this. Like you've said, it's astrology. Point #6 hardly applies to me, I'm often naive.


Bernd 03/18/2019 (Mon) 05:24:50 [Preview] No.23835 del
What exactly does constructivism versus existentialism mean?


Bernd 03/18/2019 (Mon) 06:07:56 [Preview] No.23836 del
>>23835
That's essentialism. Some questions inquire if you think stuff inherently are what they are, for example negers are lazy because they are negers. Well not this heavy handedly.


Bernd 03/18/2019 (Mon) 14:21:41 [Preview] No.23840 del
>>23834
>Not really, it's a varied selection.
True, but it's also a pretty autistic selection.