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well i fuckin tried tbh Bernd 12/17/2018 (Mon) 22:14:24 [Preview] No. 21339
so im prolly preaching to the choir here, but kohl has been completely and totally overrun by pedos. i have reason to suspect that it is being done purposefully, either as a way to disrupt /int/, entrap unproxied/naive bernds who cant into clearing their cache, and plant CP in their temporary files, and/or to use /int/ as a wall of noise, and bernds themselves, as a way to distract from their own exchanging of such content. im leaning towards the last one tbh hence why the offer of simply making a new board dedicated to such content. i think these bernds with nothing to hide, and no threat model nor intention of viewing such degeneracy, are at risk. i believe this is being cultivated purposefully so as to surround their gaggle of degenerates with low-hanging fruit who may be stupid enough to accidentally click on something, or unaware that when viewing a page with a bunch of thumbnails of child models, all those thumbnails get downloaded by your browser.

i gave a reasonable list of demands that i feel are not too extreme, and limit no ones free speech other than the (((freedom))) to endanger naive bernds and plant CP on their computers unknowingly and even gave a provision where proxies/tor are not to be banned, but it was not enough. the mods are 100% complicit in it, and allow it, and worse, encourage it. they feel that pedoposting improves the quality of the board via keeping keins and ledditors out. they feel that removing suggestively posed, scantily clad children pics means turning the joint into a reddit-tier hugbox but again, i suspect their motives are more that of self preservation, as even the most unaware of bernds has heard that kohl is run by pedos. this, even though such (((innocent))) content like candydoll webms is certainly enough for some bernd in a more conservative cunt to be fucked over hard and have his life ruined if found in his cache

ive been quietly harboring suspicions of this sort of activity for a while, but have been biting my tongue so as to not cause another mass exodus over nothing. but this is not nothing. these fucks are doing this intentionally and at this point, im certain of it. in the past few days, i heard enough other bernds exclaim similar theories about how kohl is nothing more than a fed honeypot even that dergeneral was forced to 86 the old kc serb in order to cause an exodus to a more thoroughly controlled new site, or that the owners have been co-opted/blackmailed into setting one up, and also that the use of a, now fast-moving, /int/ is being used to cover for their smut dealings.

even when asking the mods to be transparent and make a clear definitive statement on their personal moderative tendencies on such content, and to post this warning on /int/ and warn these naive bernds of the risk they face by posting there, ive been met with deflectionary responses, and weak-ass limp-dicked argumentative tactics to which i am utterly immune, as well as a distinct lack of action. they want this, and it couldnt be more clear. but worse, they want the deception. as such, i suspect foul play of some sort
idk, im really worried about the safety of the dozens of bernds who post there on a daily basis without proxy, and without clearing their caches constantly. i love all you guys a whole lot and id hate to see anyones lives get fuckt because some random pedonigger had to bump his shitty thread full of candydoll webms and pics of naked preteens to the first page, and some poor sap who didnt know any better refreshed the first page while it happened. ive seen this tactic used on other imageboards countless times and against countless communities, and with all the commotion, i felt the need to speak up about it.

Bernd 12/17/2018 (Mon) 22:14:44 [Preview] No.21340 del

i know the hungarian BO least i think hes BO here is a good dude, and ive posted here from time to time, but im interested in hearing all of your thoughts on such matters. obviously, from being here, you all have your own problems with the management and/or clientele over there, so please enlighten me on what your policy is on such degenerate fucking content. i love free speech, and in my experience, any time it appears, shortly after, so do the pedofags, and soon after that, the board is destroyed or seized or completely overrun by their fucking filth. i feel that the common bernd on kohl needs to be made aware of this threat to his safety, so that he can make an informed decision to stay/leave or proxy up/increase his threat model. how do you all feel about this?

ill post non-direct links of some the various complaint threads for anyone to look over if they wish. please do note though, that after the pedos started losing the argument in these threads, as always, they started spamming their smut nothing illegal in most cunts tbh, but i figure i should make you aware of it before examining it lest im doing exactly what im crying out against, so please use appropriate caution in viewing the threads


Bernd 12/17/2018 (Mon) 22:18:27 [Preview] No.21341 del
heading out now, but ill be back later to see what you all think of this situation

d_gbless bernds and stay safe

Bernd 12/17/2018 (Mon) 23:07:55 [Preview] No.21342 del
Endchan gets attacked quite regularly by the pedo spammer, we just have to stay vigilant and delete as quickly as possible.

That said, these aren't posting such eye scarring content as yet. The question is, does the admin want to allow their presence into his community? The simple solution is just to keep deleting their content until they get bored and go away.

Be warned, creating a board for them will attract others and illegal content will get posted. 8chan managed it but only by having a terrific moderation team to keep them in line.

Bernd 12/18/2018 (Tue) 00:03:30 [Preview] No.21344 del
If mods themselves are turning a blind eye to pedo infestation, then only strong user pressure could get them to do something about it. But mod negligence allows more and more pedos to settle, which further reduces the prospect of pressuring mods to act. So the long-term tendency is for things to get worse and worse over time.
And an influx of pedos not only presents a risk not only due to the content posted but also due to to all the complications presented by any immigration of posters to an established board.

Pedos like muddy waters. Some of the content they post isn't illegal at all, but as soon as they realize they can post it freely, increasingly ambiguous files get posted and more of them join the board. It's a slippery slope and stopping it at its roots is the only solution.

The honeypot theory sounds tinfoil-y but I wouldn't rule it out. There's a precedent for feds infiltrating fringe groups.

>the hungarian BO
The BO is actually a Pole, he just doesn't post a lot.

Bernd 12/18/2018 (Tue) 01:36:40 [Preview] No.21347 del
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>Endchan gets attacked quite regularly by the pedo spammer, we just have to stay vigilant and delete as quickly as possible
where is his proxy from?
it seems the most venomous ones are utilizing tor->secure-core VPNs, so that the they appear as regular countryballs and not onions/proxies. but the tor mountable ones arent too numerous, so its normally one of only a few countries.

>That said, these aren't posting such eye scarring content as yet
based on their mostly clothed content and age group as well as the candydoll shite, i have a feeling that this is the crew that got ousted by jim over on 8 last year or whenever that was.
a few of them seem eerily familiar
especially the SK proxy. i cant put my finger on where ive run into him before
>The question is, does the admin want to allow their presence into his community?
and here is the fucking crux of the matter
dunno about the admin as he never says anything anyways
picsrel are the only real statements weve been able to coax out of the mods there. as can clearly be seen, they are attempting to use this shit to weed out their version of undesirables (ie people who dont want child models and candydoll vids staying on the first page for hours at a time. or threads full of naked children staying up for days). i can only imagine this will get much worse, both from our protests aggravating the pedoposters, and the fact that they now know they have the mods full support in this

>Be warned, creating a board for them will attract others and illegal content will get posted. 8chan managed it but only by having a terrific moderation team to keep them in line.
tbh i agree with you here. the thing i was trying to do was try and goad out a clear idea of their personal opinion, but also, i wanted to see how they would react to the idea of posting on the site without the dozens of other bernds to cloud their traffic. they refused to even address it, and it lends more credence to my theory that they wish to use /int/ as a host for their parasitic activitiesand/or they wish to have bernd there because they are running a honeypotleaning towards the former here tbh

Bernd 12/18/2018 (Tue) 01:54:34 [Preview] No.21348 del
>If mods themselves are turning a blind eye to pedo infestation
>then only strong user pressure could get them to do something about it
im trying to drum up some controversy/feel out the general sentiment.
its clear im far from the only one upset about it, and complaints have been increasing all over the board, but the amount of pedospammers has increased similarly
theres quite a lot of them at this point already
>mod negligence allows more and more pedos to settle, which further reduces the prospect of pressuring mods to act
we are here nao
>long-term tendency is for things to get worse and worse over time.
and thats what im trying to avoid
every single free speech based community ends up doing this dance, and it always ends in the site being destroyed
>Some of the content they post isn't illegal at all, but as soon as they realize they can post it freely, increasingly ambiguous files get posted and more of them join the board
again, this is exactly whats happening currently. most of the stuff is clothed, much of it isnt even sexualized yet, but like you said, we both know where this is heading. the sharp increase in candydoll pics and vids is what had me say something. while that stuff isnt ever "hard", its certainly enough to land bernds in more conservative countries in some hot water. and thats what has me concerned more than anything. the mods do not give a single solitary fuck about protecting these users, and in fact it could speculated that they are trying to do it. honeypot or not, theyre using that muddy water to try and weed out bernds, and dont seem to give a shit about the consequences for the poor innocent bernd who ends up with that shit in his temp files
>The honeypot theory sounds tinfoil-y
i agree, but again, i was looking more for their reaction than anything with that. im leaning much harder towards the idea that they wish to use the site traffic to hide in the noise. doesnt hurt that the bernds with nothing to hide are low hanging fruit in the event that they do catch the eyes of feds
>There's a precedent for feds infiltrating fringe groups.
aint it the truth tho?

sage for doublepost

Bernd 12/18/2018 (Tue) 07:15:01 [Preview] No.21350 del
>even nudity can get a free pass
Wow, everything's totally fucking fucked mate. Abandon ship. Sorry. I think hungry ball would tell you as much, don't know where he is today.

Bernd 12/18/2018 (Tue) 07:34:32 [Preview] No.21351 del
I'm here and will be today more frequently. But as I mentioned elsewhere I'll be away from tomorrow to Saturday.

Bernd 12/18/2018 (Tue) 07:55:53 [Preview] No.21356 del
I didn't read all yet but for a quick reply I want to raise two points:
1. as the others stated I'm not the BO
2. CP doesn't belong to imageboards - frankly CP belongs nowhere - even on 4chan/b it was an meme about the CP (and a previous CP case where content was reported to FBI and moot went to testify and such - as to my best knowledge I wasn't around back then), here the chan's rules states that such content which goes against the law of the US (like CP) isn't allowed

All right. I'll read it further and will reply, but in the meantime I have to go with my day.
Hang on, dude.

Bernd 12/18/2018 (Tue) 10:04:26 [Preview] No.21358 del
All right.
I see that mostly not explicitly illegal material is posted and yeah some arguments can be raised to move the goalpost.
Such argument can be the legal age, but sometimes this is misunderstood, for example on the Hungary one can have consensual sex with a 14+ grill but pornographic material (photos, videos etc.) can only be made and owned if the grill is 18+ so for example if a dude keeps nudes of his 17 yo. gf even that counts as illegal. Just checked the law for Hungarians who are interested: Btk (2012. évi C. törvény) 204. § which defines what can be pornographic material but it gives a wriggle room which can be used to dispute what counts as such. For the intention of owning certain pictures: the posters you mentioned post non-nude child models I check the thread the pictures gets downloaded by the browser, then the authorities can examine what I do with such pictures. Am I a talent scout who looks for young models for fashion business or whatever? No. Then what am I doing with such pictures even if they aren't sexually explicit materials? This calls for trouble. But even if Bernd/Anon don't get legal punishment, it can further destroy his personal relations. There are always people who will look contempt on Bernd after such thing come to their knowledge, this "oh but I don't even step outside for years now" or "oh I'm such a recluse" argument is a BS.
Keeping "the normies" away is also a shitty argument, then why not just post gore 24/7? And most of the Bernds browse reddit and such places anyway. Also who the fuck wants to come to any KC related boards from the normieweb?
Nevertheless those type of threads aren't /int/ related and even if not outright bannable offenses it isn't a reasonable idea to move/direct them to a board exclusively maintained for those or fit more into the theme like /b/. I think you did good to suggest such solution.
Here not long ago the Russian authorities asked the removal of some lolicon images from /librejp/. We were against the deletion you still can find discussions in some threads, and while it fits to /librejp/ I don't really want such posts here. But here on /kc/ it can be easily ignored if it is posted on an occasion, and if it gets repeated it can get deleted as spam. And again the intention, now I wrote this maybe someone gets the grand idea to test what I wrote in practice but then it is obvious why is that posted and I can report that content.
Personally I think we shouldn't tolerate such content for the reason Brazil Bernd wrote: it's a slippery slope, we don't need such people here. An occasional discussion on age of consent and such (like the one that gifted a banner) is fine and fun but dumping hundreds of little girl/boy pictures isn't belong here.
I'm for freedom of speech and opinion but this isn't even fall into either category.

Bernd 12/18/2018 (Tue) 11:31:01 [Preview] No.21360 del
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Any free-to-access community requires some kind of moderation for normal operation. Conspiracies and intentions of community-disrupting actions actually don't matter - it doesn't matter if spammer spams for fun (these people exist) or doing it for specific purpose. If some place without moderation exists peacefully, it is only because some crazy person with much free time didn't discover this place. World is evil and bad place, so any community must have means to protect itself.

Although if you really want true free speech, you must not complain even if content is bad for you (morally, legally etc). But most of people don't want this, they want topical discussion. Personally, I don't care about any (really) content at all, but I imagine that there are people who care much more.

Considering Kohl (and imageboards as general) - imageboards aren't profitable business and owners typically do it because they just want it, so they may or may not listen to opinion of users. What to do? I don't know, amass users, ask moderators to do something, and if they wouldn't... hmm, maybe make own imageboard where leadership team represents values of community more than on kohl (preferably they need to be main part of community).

Bernd 12/18/2018 (Tue) 13:17:56 [Preview] No.21361 del
Those mods are just gonna get themselves fucked over the moment anyone reports the site. Even if it isn't illegal most hosts won't agree to host that kind of content. Also why Kohlchan's Americaball isn't fat?

Bernd 12/18/2018 (Tue) 14:18:45 [Preview] No.21362 del
how can we report the site?

keeping the 'normies' away as far as I see bring literal nazi pedophiles though, it's literally pick your death if the argument is true at all.

Bernd 12/18/2018 (Tue) 14:21:05 [Preview] No.21363 del
I think you'd report it to their host or domain registrar, but given kohl's creation, I'm sure they'll get similar recompense in the end so you wouldn't necessarily have to do anything as I'm sure they'll turn on each other at some point.

Bernd 12/18/2018 (Tue) 14:58:57 [Preview] No.21365 del
I don't think it's our job to report it but everyone makes his own decisions.

>Also why Kohlchan's Americaball isn't fat?
Because it's only fat here and 8. On KC main it was regular ball (with shades, like on Kohl).

>maybe make own imageboard where leadership team represents values of community more than on kohl
There are several KC derivatives and /int/ boards now those who leave can pick another or make their own it's their business.

However I think what our business is being a usable option for those who are looking for alternatives. Maybe we could create a thread to sum up our board and draw clear rules (which was none so far, but can change in the future) or our standing in certain questions. If "we" as a collective have such beside "we just want comfy posting" that's a good one tho. What is allowed, what isn't this is one short list, what is encouraged, what is enforced. And keep it clear and short and sticky it.
Maybe one thing our business is letting people know that there are alternatives, such as ours, but not necessarily only ours.

Bernd 12/18/2018 (Tue) 16:38:20 [Preview] No.21380 del
>If "we" as a collective have such beside "we just want comfy posting" that's a good one tho. What is allowed, what isn't this is one short list, what is encouraged, what is enforced. And keep it clear and short and sticky it.
That could be worth thinking about if we have a big migration like after KC main shut down again, but I'd rather hope that we don't need something like that since most decent posters should be able to learn all that information simply by browsing the board.

Bernd 12/18/2018 (Tue) 18:25:17 [Preview] No.21385 del
>most decent posters should be able to learn all that information simply by browsing the board.
Ummm. True.

Bernd 12/18/2018 (Tue) 18:55:35 [Preview] No.21386 del
if they mass immigration to this board happens, old posters like you guys will be minority which means more bannable offences, which means more moderation will be necessary.

Bernd 12/18/2018 (Tue) 20:34:15 [Preview] No.21387 del
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>What is allowed, what isn't this is one short list, what is encouraged, what is enforced. And keep it clear and short and sticky it.

My experience says that rules don't really matter, moderator persona matter much more. You can't codify everything because humans are irrational beings, and using rules too literally often doesn't work - people will find a way to avoid rules by using some tricks and then comply loudly about moderator's oppression or prejudice. Internet and real life communities are full of drama because of this. You also couldn't easily write precise rules about content, because it isn't easy to describe what is "kc-style" and what is not. In the end it will be moderator (one of few) who do the decision after all.

Although having some guide will be helpful, like "it isn't porn site", "it isn't korean music video host", "we like long and autistic discussions" and "we don't like deliberate disruption of discussions". Of course having rule about illegal content is ok, although there are plenty of problems (like that Russian ban). Whatever, again, it will end at moderator's side after all.

Bernd 12/19/2018 (Wed) 04:43:47 [Preview] No.21394 del
opie here


>Wow, everything's totally fucking fucked mate. Abandon ship.
heres the thing that i really dont like about this all.
my suspicions about the place being a honeypot/wall of noise are still lingering, and in a lot of ways, strengthening

mods have made it very clear that there will be no negotiation on this. only files that include explicit content will be removed. like you said that includes fully naked children of any age. even setting aside legal issues, that is something that has the potential to destroy any bernd, no matter of country or local legal stance on the content. while theyre posting mostly grey area stuff now, i fear that after this has been made clear to the pedos and especially after being attacked by most of the community, that things will be stepped up to that level on a more regular basis. and i also know from seeing this happen on freech that the pedos will tell their whole fucking tribe that kc is the place to be to post such degeneracy

so to test my theory on whether or not the mods are simply pedos themselves trying to make a pedo clubhouse, or if theres something more sinister, i posted in a way where i conceded that they are the ones who get the final word that final word being that naked 3yos is "fucking cool bruh" and also "idgaf about my site users safety/well-being". now that theyve stated their intention to make /int/ a place for such content, my next request was for them to tell the bernds of /int/, as a mod, what is allowed/not, and to put an end to this. they have out and out refused, stating that "everyone already knows whats legal and whats not" lol no. the serbs in liechtenstein. how many non-pedo bernds do you think actually know the law on CP of such a place? id wager slim to none and that to make a simple sticky post on /int/ for a few days would be a "waste of time". this while he took the time to respond to several of my posts. im abstaining from dumping the word on this revelation on /int/ itself because im trying to test if he will be willing to cause a mass exodus and lose the bernds that surround him and his friends activities or if it is a honeypot, lose access to his targets. this reluctance is spooking the hell out of me tbh, and i cant see why someone who yesterday proclaimed that he wanted the smut there to "filter out keins", and also proclaimed to want an end to this "headache", now seems so reluctant to do either of those things in one simple sticky post. because "muh too much work" archive fucking related. its what ive been dealing with the last few days. holy fucking shit. i dont buy it and something doesnt add up here. i fear we may be dealing with something much more serious than simply a group of mods/admins who wish to have a board of absolute free speech. at the very least we can see that from their inability to tolerate walls of text, they were kc/b/ posters, not kc/int/ posters

judging by your guys posts, i can see im actually in good fucking company for srs discushun for once, and im sorry i cant post replies to anything right now, but im worn out from this shit tbh. i feel like ive been shouting underwater for well over 48 hours now. ill give yall a readthrough tonight and dive back in tomorrow. i need a fucking break

heres the meta threda
no degenerate material in it
but a whole fucking lot of degenerate posters

i think we gotta do something to get the regular bernds off of that site
im becoming more certain that they are in harms way on kohl
at the very least is clear the mods dont give two fucks about them nor /int/

Bernd 12/19/2018 (Wed) 05:34:15 [Preview] No.21395 del
>im worn out from this shit tbh. i feel like ive been shouting underwater for well over 48 hours now. ill give yall a readthrough tonight and dive back in tomorrow.
>i need a fucking break
You do that, get a rest and continue if you wish. From our side we are open to discuss the topic and ofc you can post your thoughts here.
I believe most Bernds have no exact idea about US and his own country's laws they should read up stuff, and be warned about personal consequences too, the average person especially in his late teens, early twenties is clueless despite they usually think themselves the fountain of wisdom and knowledge. They also should know about other options (not just us, but krautchan.co and the other /int/s). I believe most of them won't go anywhere, convenience > security, they don't care. Some will not like to see the grey area content day-to-day, they might just hide it in dollchan or they might be willing to move.
You can't do much, basically can tell them politely about the concern and their options. Don't screetch at them that will alienate you, and will be labeled as tinfoil hat.
I also believe this thread will be mentioned.

As I said I won't be around for a few days. See you then.

Bernd 12/19/2018 (Wed) 23:04:58 [Preview] No.21398 del
>I'm for freedom of speech and opinion but this isn't even fall into either category.
this is pedos using a safespace for them at the expense of naive bernds safety

>I don't care about any (really) content at all, but I imagine that there are people who care much more.
my argument here is that bernds who arent prepared to view the content are being forced to endure it and because the non-pedos do not take appropriate precautions around such stuff as they dont expect it, it feels strangely like these bernds are being used to hide the pedos traffic/exchanges. separating the two communities fixes that, as well as makes moderation easier as its in one place and it also impedes no ones ability to post whatever they want so i dont know why thats not even a possibility. fug, even allowing posts to be spoilered would solve the problem of bernd ending up with this shit in his cache.

my emotional argument which ive tried to leave outta this is that their content propagates the abuse of children. even many of the most innocuous of child model agencies is rife with molesters. this is a fact. and certainly some of them are used as ads for child trafficking freaks

>Those mods are just gonna get themselves fucked over the moment anyone reports the site
given the lax laws of such content in liechtenstein, you may be wrong. in terms of the site itself, they do actually remove explicit content and thats where being reported could be bad for them. the exception is if some bernd gets fucked and this stuff is found in his computer. that would bring a lot of bad noise onto the site as well as the host.
>Even if it isn't illegal most hosts won't agree to host that kind of content
true, but im also not trying to destroy their site. if anything, i want to see its continued existence. i know better than to think that this pedo problem will get any better, especially after its clear that they have the mods graces. people complain about cuckchanners moving in swarms, but wew, pedos are way worse.

>how can we report the site?
at this point, i dont think you can, but like i said, im not out to destroy the place. im out to make it so it doesnt get reported in the first place.
>keeping the 'normies' away as far as I see bring literal nazi pedophiles though, it's literally pick your death if the argument is true at all.
yeah normalfags dont go to kc. anyone still piling in there is just an old kc poster who just found the place. maybe some are from the 4channel fork, but i doubt theres many. and as for
>literal nazi pedophiles
this unfortunately seems to be the hill they wanna die on really makes ya think
and here i was thinking that nazis executed degenerates. my mistake i guess

Bernd 12/19/2018 (Wed) 23:06:09 [Preview] No.21399 del
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>I'm sure they'll turn on each other at some point.
at this point you are right
nothing has changed, so its simply a matter of time

>There are several KC derivatives and /int/ boards now those who leave can pick another or make their own it's their business.
true, i was just hoping to see that we dont have to go through yet another exodus. but its bound to happen once the pedospammers increase in numbers and activity

>most decent posters should be able to learn all that information simply by browsing the board.
lel its funny because this is the same argument that the kohl mods are giving as to why they wont announce site policy picrel. while you are right that good posters will lurk and feel a place out, unfortunately its not the good posters that cause a need for such rules and guidelines. its the shit ones. the ones who dont lurk need to be told what to do/not do and its this transparancy that i think is necessary for a healthy mod/user relationship as well as a good board. doesnt even have to be "rules", just guidelines. and even those users who dont lurk should be forced to see what is expected of a place imo

>You can't codify everything because humans are irrational beings, and using rules too literally often doesn't work - people will find a way to avoid rules by using some tricks and then comply loudly about moderator's oppression or prejudice
good point tbh. too many rules and the sites ded
id still argue that if there are to be any guidelines made at all, they should be clearly laid out for new arrivals, lest it turn into a b&hammer frenzy where no one knows why they got whacked

>You can't do much, basically can tell them politely about the concern and their options. Don't screetch at them that will alienate you, and will be labeled as tinfoil hat
yeah i finally got a response from them, and the ball is in their court as to what to do next srsly doubt theyre gonna do shit. im done with it, and will use kohl from time to time for as long as the pedos allow possible. once that content becomes daily, then im out. as is now theres still regular bernds there so we will see how this plays out. problem is if the mods do nothing, this problem will pop up again and again until they address it which they probably wont
>I also believe this thread will be mentioned.
i havent said anything here that i disagree with, and i also figure if they do try to fuck with me, i have a pretty strong alibi as to why im obviously not a pedo or a fed or anything sinister, and only wish the best for my fellow bernd

Bernd 12/22/2018 (Sat) 13:27:33 [Preview] No.21416 del
I think noone can be saved from himself. Kohl admins decided to run their site as they do, noone can force them do otherwise. Bernds on Kohl chose to post on Kohl, and choose to do so continuously, noone can force to do it otherwise.
What you can do is to make sometimes a thread and raise awareness, list your arguments, present solutions, and hope maybe the message will go through the thick skull of Bernds. It's a legit discussion and if you don't do it obnoxiously - like grappa threads or Bogdán - they won't have reason to ban you.

Bernd 12/22/2018 (Sat) 23:22:27 [Preview] No.21456 del

Bernd 12/22/2018 (Sat) 23:23:20 [Preview] No.21458 del

The site is hosted in Romania.

Bernd 12/22/2018 (Sat) 23:26:35 [Preview] No.21459 del

Hungarians are still gypsies and I did literally nothing wrong. I shouldn't have to pay for you or that pshek's refusal to acknowledge academic consensus on the Daco-Roman continuity theory. PS Transylvania belongs to Romania.

Bernd 12/22/2018 (Sat) 23:28:32 [Preview] No.21460 del

Cabbage is hosted in Romania not Liechtenstein. Dunno why my 2 posts before got deld

Bernd 12/22/2018 (Sat) 23:30:06 [Preview] No.21461 del

lel the second post is mine

Bernd 12/22/2018 (Sat) 23:33:14 [Preview] No.21462 del

Also "this is awesome"

Ahh the beta days

Bernd 12/23/2018 (Sun) 00:40:22 [Preview] No.21465 del
You've mentioned creating a containment board for pedo spam. This benefits Bernd, but it could be really harmful for the moderation down the line. Just think of what would happen if the site itself were brought under investigation: how could the mods argue their innocence to a court if they themselves set up a specifically pedo board?
They won't do that, though. It seems the mods will just uphold their current policy until the site is irreversibly changed.

Bernd 12/23/2018 (Sun) 00:56:11 [Preview] No.21466 del
Pedophilia is not a crime. Nevertheless the gist of it is correct, a pedo board just brings unnecessary attention.

Bernd 03/16/2019 (Sat) 15:32:02 [Preview] No.23768 del
how can we take down the kohlspiracy?

Bernd 03/16/2019 (Sat) 15:48:47 [Preview] No.23769 del
What do you mean?

Bernd 03/16/2019 (Sat) 16:00:52 [Preview] No.23770 del
the fact that kohl is run by paedos?

Bernd 03/16/2019 (Sat) 16:10:23 [Preview] No.23771 del
Poltard pedos.

Bernd 03/16/2019 (Sat) 16:21:24 [Preview] No.23772 del
Tell us more about this Kohlspiracy.

Bernd 03/16/2019 (Sat) 16:21:48 [Preview] No.23774 del
Also why is my flag changing?

Bernd 03/16/2019 (Sat) 16:22:55 [Preview] No.23775 del
I mean beside what's in this thread ofc.

Which domain you use? .org?

Bernd 03/16/2019 (Sat) 16:26:08 [Preview] No.23776 del
Yeah, I use .org because it's what the kohlzine discord link was

Bernd 03/16/2019 (Sat) 16:29:05 [Preview] No.23777 del
.org goes through cloudflare
When I use it I'm usually some Arab, I think UAE. I suggest use .xyz by default and if it loads slow or down, try .org.

Bernd 03/16/2019 (Sat) 16:31:44 [Preview] No.23778 del
What's up with Kohlzine?

Bernd 03/16/2019 (Sat) 16:34:54 [Preview] No.23779 del
we are conspiring a coup

Bernd 03/16/2019 (Sat) 16:38:46 [Preview] No.23781 del
Isn't Kohlzine a fanzine dedicated to Kohl?

Bernd 03/16/2019 (Sat) 16:44:00 [Preview] No.23782 del
Yep, but we are bernds before everything.

Bernd 03/16/2019 (Sat) 16:51:53 [Preview] No.23783 del
But how the Kohlzine come into the the picture with this "coup"?
Also coups usually kept in secret (the successful one were at least), isn't talking about it openly risks it's success?

Bernd 03/16/2019 (Sat) 16:56:39 [Preview] No.23785 del
This coup stuff is a joke. Even if we wanted to do it it would be impossible. This doesn't mean we are in favour. We are also amateur journalists so is reasonable to investigate this stuff.

Bernd 03/16/2019 (Sat) 17:00:23 [Preview] No.23786 del
So this coup is basically unveil the Kohlspiracy? So liek investigative journalism?

Bernd 03/16/2019 (Sat) 17:06:44 [Preview] No.23788 del
1.We lack enough evidence to publish anything.
2.That's irrelevant to us or at least to me. I only want to make the most kc tier articles I can. If this results in the site dying or the moderation team being reformed it's irrelevant to me.

Bernd 03/16/2019 (Sat) 17:10:40 [Preview] No.23789 del
Serious discussion above everything. Truly KCtier.

Bernd 03/16/2019 (Sat) 17:10:41 [Preview] No.23790 del
Who is this we?

Bernd 03/16/2019 (Sat) 17:11:44 [Preview] No.23791 del
The kohlzine team.

Bernd 03/16/2019 (Sat) 17:13:16 [Preview] No.23793 del
Which usually means 1 or 2 guys at most. We are highly decentralised, every one has their own projects for every iteration.

Bernd 03/16/2019 (Sat) 17:26:14 [Preview] No.23794 del
Where can one download an issue? How many are there?

Bernd 03/16/2019 (Sat) 17:32:39 [Preview] No.23796 del
>next deadline 15 March
That was yesterday.

Bernd 03/16/2019 (Sat) 17:40:55 [Preview] No.23799 del
Deadline to present texts. Now is the proofreadings and the creation of the zine.

Bernd 03/16/2019 (Sat) 17:44:34 [Preview] No.23800 del
I see. So an editor or two compile it first.

Bernd 03/16/2019 (Sat) 17:48:10 [Preview] No.23803 del
Exactly. That's why we have a cohesive design always.

Bernd 03/16/2019 (Sat) 17:52:01 [Preview] No.23804 del
What's up with meta?

Bernd 03/16/2019 (Sat) 18:00:44 [Preview] No.23805 del
It's an old zine.

Bernd 03/16/2019 (Sat) 18:14:28 [Preview] No.23806 del
I think I remember that one.

Bernd 03/20/2019 (Wed) 19:53:22 [Preview] No.23924 del
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The new issue is out.

Bernd 03/20/2019 (Wed) 20:37:09 [Preview] No.23925 del
>Or maybe we should turn entire cities into gigantic necropolis?
Not a bad idea.
t. necromancer

Bernd 03/21/2019 (Thu) 11:38:24 [Preview] No.23938 del
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Bernd 03/21/2019 (Thu) 14:22:26 [Preview] No.23941 del
>tfw PCSX2 is still shit

Bernd 03/21/2019 (Thu) 18:40:57 [Preview] No.23952 del
I didn't even start browsing kohl because of it.

Bernd 09/20/2019 (Fri) 18:51:13 [Preview] No.29221 del
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Important discussion. Well, as important as can be on chans.

Bernd 09/21/2019 (Sat) 05:57:29 [Preview] No.29230 del
>Going to kohl
Never ever

Bernd 09/22/2019 (Sun) 17:08:22 [Preview] No.29249 del
I've been browsing /b/ for a bit and it appears there may be some shadiness that may be related to the same people that make this type of content in kohl. Best to be vigilant

Bernd 09/22/2019 (Sun) 17:46:10 [Preview] No.29250 del
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Bernd 09/22/2019 (Sun) 18:39:46 [Preview] No.29261 del
Not canadian. Ball must have changed on me

Bernd 09/22/2019 (Sun) 18:42:23 [Preview] No.29262 del
Ah, you're the Pole from /4/.

Bernd 09/22/2019 (Sun) 18:52:32 [Preview] No.29263 del
>Calling me a pole
Anon, please don't insult me that way!

But no I'm not that guy. We should bring this up in /operate/ or to the other BOs/volunteers though

Bernd 09/22/2019 (Sun) 18:56:25 [Preview] No.29264 del
Geolocation was off when posting on the .org domain. But that's constantly offline to me. Odili says it supposed to be up, I dunno. Do you use that, or .net? If .net, I'll tell them on Discord to fix it.

Bernd 09/22/2019 (Sun) 20:20:44 [Preview] No.29265 del
I guess
Tell Odili about /b/ too. Shit's getting out of hand there.

Bernd 09/22/2019 (Sun) 20:41:07 [Preview] No.29267 del
That will depend on the BO there. It doesn't really cross the "suggestive" part of the 2nd global rule. And on /b/ many thing could be let posted where elsewhere they might be clear bannable offense.
I'm not fond of those posts (my opinion can be read in this thread above) I might put forward this for a discussion with the admins.

Bernd 09/22/2019 (Sun) 20:58:57 [Preview] No.29268 del
It's just one guy who's been doing this since the migration ended. Now he's posting worse content. He needs to go ASAP because I know how subhumans like him operate. Seen it happen before.

It's best to just nip a problem at it's bud.

Bernd 09/23/2019 (Mon) 15:32:53 [Preview] No.29272 del
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I went there to see what's going on. I like peoples' attitude about the issue.

Bernd 09/23/2019 (Mon) 16:29:56 [Preview] No.29276 del
BO there is trusted by the admins (after all it's /b/, one of the default boards on most chans, and the place where everything can fit, kinda important place, even if here it doesn't get the most traffic), so his opinion is kind of a "standard".
I'm kinda torn, but the kasha isn't eaten that hot, we'll see where the thing will lead.

I know and understand your problem with /pol/, and if you read a little on this one or get into a conversation with them these guy's admit being a legit National Socialists. I can't read it in a way that it sounds ironic.
On the other hand the BO and the volunteer really keep the board clean, that Oslo guy if he was that, we won't ever know if that thing was a repost, unless Manshaus explicitly admit he did it happened to post in a time which proved to be "blindspot" on that day. They think every such posts is a red flag and the product of the FBI or the puppets of the Global Jewish Conspiracy.

Bernd 09/23/2019 (Mon) 16:41:35 [Preview] No.29277 del
>I know and understand your problem with /pol/
akshually, I just reposted the reply cause I found it genuinely funny

Bernd 09/23/2019 (Mon) 17:00:16 [Preview] No.29279 del
Maybe so. I was reflecting on the deeper implications originating from the subconscious of your psyche.

Bernd 09/24/2019 (Tue) 00:46:48 [Preview] No.29289 del

Bernd 09/24/2019 (Tue) 01:19:42 [Preview] No.29290 del
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This is all horseshit and blatant butthurtness of some retards that are probably just banned for unrelated reasons.

Bernd 09/24/2019 (Tue) 19:33:58 [Preview] No.29348 del
Thanks for helping out on the site Hungary ball. Much appreciated from everyone here.
Okay, so after reporting /b/ it looks like they moved on to the /4/ board, and showed their true colors.
Someone (I think you) posted about that board. I think since the announcement of the BO position becoming available, some bad actors swarmed towards this site. Sites like these are heavily monitored so I am very suspicious about everything recently.

It happened too quick to be a coincidence since we have been having schizo threads nonstop over the last few days.

Also, look out for the /ligamx/ board since they might also have some shady content

Bernd 09/25/2019 (Wed) 05:24:18 [Preview] No.29360 del
I understand you wish to help but please refrain from replying to those whom you think violating the rules or pushing their limit, or posting something they shouldn't according to your judgement.
You can help the site with reporting content with the report form, or on /operate/ which is read by several people who has moderation rights. You can also mediating between the staff and the userbase ofc, by warning people who posted content violating the rules, but don't engage in debates with them it's not the question of persuading they are doing it wrong, but telling them factually they're doing it wrong and informing them about the rules which applies to everyone here.
You can also help informing fellow users about the technical peculiarities of the site if they don't know how things work, or telling them to seek answers on /operate/ or read help and faq.

One more thing: I (and I believe all the Bernds) wish this thread to remain related to the original topic(s Kohl, posts on Kohl and Kohlzine), the issues of the site belong to /operate/ and not /kc/.
Thank you.

SAGE Bernd 09/25/2019 (Wed) 06:29:17 [Preview] No.29363 del
Okay I understand Hungaryball. I went ahead and posted it on /operate/. Thank you for responding and I will leave you guys to go back on topic.

Bernd 10/12/2019 (Sat) 09:27:18 [Preview] No.30323 del

Bernd 04/15/2020 (Wed) 20:53:20 [Preview] No.35955 del
Save the ebin struggle.

Dutch bernd's easy to follow fix to your coal burning habits Bernd 04/17/2020 (Fri) 01:34:07 [Preview] No.35987 del
There is a very simple 3 step solution that bernd can follow in order not to deal with the /kohl/ anymore. Really simple to follow

Step 1 - Don't go to kohl, ever
Step 2 - have a site blocker set up so you can't access the site anymore. Because you know you will soon. Don't lie, you still go there and you know it :)
Step 3 - Visit end/kc/, Ernstchan, Yilutta or any other chan with likeminded bernds instead

Problems weren't but srs avoid that site like the plague

Bernd 04/17/2020 (Fri) 13:02:38 [Preview] No.35992 del
Great advis.

Bernd 04/18/2020 (Sat) 03:25:16 [Preview] No.35999 del
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>Great advis.

Also try bernd.group it glitches constantly though

Bernd 04/18/2020 (Sat) 05:52:20 [Preview] No.36006 del
I honestly don't understand berndgroup's format. Where's the catalogue?

Bernd 04/18/2020 (Sat) 08:02:54 [Preview] No.36009 del
bernd.group is an interesting one with it's looks.
Hmm checking it right now. Little sluggish, and the style changed somewhat.

>Where's the catalogue?
At this moment I've no idea.

Bernd 04/18/2020 (Sat) 08:05:32 [Preview] No.36010 del
Oh dog, it's a mess. Eating my processor up and slowed the browser to crawl.

Bernd 04/18/2020 (Sat) 22:07:03 [Preview] No.36025 del
same settis here, probably because of shitty done pajeet script that they are using or something.

Bernd 04/19/2020 (Sun) 10:21:41 [Preview] No.36048 del
It's Russian.

Bernd 04/23/2020 (Thu) 03:17:21 [Preview] No.36160 del
I remember the site owner/creator came here to promote it. I wonder if he's still here though.

It looks like an ok bunker, if anything. It is made by a fellow bernd so that's a plus.

But the site needs some work overall.

Bernd 04/23/2020 (Thu) 03:18:40 [Preview] No.36161 del
>I honestly don't understand berndgroup's format. Where's the catalogue?

Yeah it's all over the place. I think the site owner is just trying out a bunch of new stuff. Although it looks cool, it's not so practical in the long run(web design wise).

Bernd 04/23/2020 (Thu) 05:18:06 [Preview] No.36162 del
Maybe yeah, he is experimenting what works and what isn't. He probably will eliminate the bugs (or not). My problem is, that he might have an fast computer where he looks at his site and tests, and he finds it ok, while us (like me) on a potato 10 yo. config will struggle to load anything. This shit is all over the internet fugging google does this, they run so many crap sometimes it hangs my browser, and they think it's good practice how they do it.

Bernd 05/02/2020 (Sat) 11:33:06 [Preview] No.36464 del
So there was another thread on kohl about the pedo stuff as mods deleted and banned a serb for making a thread calling out the shit.
There are many that don't care and are happy with their shithole but other Bernds are not.
We should maybe get them out of there in some way.

Bernd 05/02/2020 (Sat) 11:38:26 [Preview] No.36467 del
Bernd knows about Endchan. Well, at least those who aren't 4chan based crossposters. They can decide for themselves.
Today we'll have another End Movie Corner, and I'll make a thread for that on Kohl, so that's also a kind of a shilling for Endchan.

Bernd 05/02/2020 (Sat) 14:52:02 [Preview] No.36472 del
One of the mods is complicit with "that type" of content. You will never get anything out of arguing in that Stasi-owned website. and I mentioned the "unmentionable" banners featured on that site here a few months ago here, if you guys remember. Why even have that to begin with?

It's a rigged game that you shouldn't try to win, because you never will. Sorry bernds

>We should maybe get them out of there in some way.
If you do, get that one Dutch bernd that makes daily trading threads there. kc trading/Bernds of Wall Street threads, I believe. He'd be really good to have around

>Bernd knows about Endchan. Well, at least those who aren't 4chan based crossposters. They can decide for themselves.

You can lead a horse to a river of water, but you can't make him drink it. It's up to them to decide what they choose to do at this point.

Bernd 05/02/2020 (Sat) 15:07:24 [Preview] No.36478 del
Which thread was it? Can it be found on https://www.kcarchive.ga/?

Bernd 05/02/2020 (Sat) 18:11:52 [Preview] No.36482 del
>Why was antipedo thread deleted? Dont tell me that you take death threats seriously when it arranges you.
>The poster who also posted this thread was warned because of his spam in a lot of threads while his spam posts were deleted. He ignored the warning and spammed even more, so he was banned and all of his posts were deleted. Afterwards he was evading his ban, so now his range is banned for three days.

Bernd 05/02/2020 (Sat) 18:38:18 [Preview] No.36483 del
This was the thread asking why was the Serb removed. Not that there is much.

sage Bernd 05/02/2020 (Sat) 20:24:16 [Preview] No.36487 del
lol is this helmuts?

sage Bernd 07/18/2020 (Sat) 19:58:04 [Preview] No.38687 del
Why are you bumping an dead 2 month old thread with an underage child?

Bernd 07/19/2020 (Sun) 02:05:22 [Preview] No.38697 del
>dead 2 month year old thread

I wrote everything above. Because nothing changed, OP lost, blah blah blah, users are getting paranoid and quitting the place, many reasons.
Well, something changed. I'm won't go there anymore.
>an underage child
To bait ofc. She used to be popular there.

Bernd 08/23/2020 (Sun) 02:35:45 [Preview] No.39444 del
Out of all these sister sites, which one would you guys say is the best to call home?

Bernd 08/23/2020 (Sun) 02:59:18 [Preview] No.39445 del
/kc/ is the most familiar feeling, ernst is more srs bsns but it's a nice place overall.
Personally I visit various imageboards so going back and forth isn't a big deal. Such is the life of the net diaspora.

Bernd 08/23/2020 (Sun) 03:06:33 [Preview] No.39446 del
I meant in terms of /kc/ sister sites over other chans online. I like Ernst and bernd.group since the threads on there are much easier to get into than anywhere else. I dunno which has the more active userbase though.

Bernd 08/27/2020 (Thu) 12:30:45 [Preview] No.39526 del
ernstchanners are passive aggresive tbh. I get the zoomer vibes who think they are something good time to time.

Bernd 08/27/2020 (Thu) 13:06:41 [Preview] No.39528 del
>passive aggresive
Sign of a beta male. Personally I avoid all passive aggressive people, they are all toxic.

Bernd 09/04/2020 (Fri) 01:31:14 [Preview] No.39744 del
I have actually just ended up here today because of the pedo shit, old /int/ did not have a problem nearly this bad

Bernd 09/04/2020 (Fri) 02:03:21 [Preview] No.39746 del
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Welcome. Have some raw meat.

Bernd 09/04/2020 (Fri) 05:41:56 [Preview] No.39753 del
Pls bear with the slow pace, we are just a few Bernds. Look around and see what hold interest to you.
Enjoy your stay.

Bernd 09/04/2020 (Fri) 20:03:39 [Preview] No.39772 del
I don't mind, I was on KC from 2011 for a few years so I am used to slower boards

Tahnks for the welcome though :--DDDD

Bernd 09/04/2020 (Fri) 21:05:15 [Preview] No.39777 del
Welcome to your new home bernd. Enjoy your stay and serious discussions here

Bernd 09/05/2020 (Sat) 04:04:04 [Preview] No.39798 del
now that berndgroup has become krautchan.rip, we must form an allegiance against the kohlzine menace

Bernd 09/05/2020 (Sat) 06:17:44 [Preview] No.39801 del
We have no problem with Kohlzine. They collect creative works of Bernd for posterity. Well posterity as long as electricity and data storage exists.

Bernd 09/05/2020 (Sat) 08:18:31 [Preview] No.39807 del
I do tbh

Bernd 09/05/2020 (Sat) 09:07:18 [Preview] No.39809 del
Oh yeah, I forgot. Despite this I don't think any anti-kohlzine allegiance is viable as a block.

Bernd 09/05/2020 (Sat) 18:47:53 [Preview] No.39830 del
Well, how many of us do you need?

Bernd 09/05/2020 (Sat) 18:55:22 [Preview] No.39832 del
I don't. I'm not planning anything along that line.

Bernd 09/07/2020 (Mon) 23:48:41 [Preview] No.39879 del
Simple: /kc/, Ernst, and KCrip create a union of bernds as a website. We try and attract old bernds back, our sites grow in users, overshadows K*hlzine, and they'll cry and sob once the journalists expose them and it crumbles away.

Bernd 09/09/2020 (Wed) 03:15:28 [Preview] No.39895 del
I don't think we need to do anything in the first place. They post their rag in their designated thread, and their Bernds are aware that alternatives exist.
Eventually they'll get fed up with the site, move somewhere else and probably rebrand themselves. If they don't move and embrace their new warped culture, then they're lost causes.

Bernd 06/05/2021 (Sat) 11:49:15 [Preview] No.43864 del
Welp, buming this old thread because I browsed kohl in early morning today it was pedos doing their things fullspeed, even worse than before. I just remembered now why I dont browse that shithole. Pedo infestation is unbearable.

Bernd 06/05/2021 (Sat) 15:48:05 [Preview] No.43865 del
And looks more 4chan than ever. Still OG Bernds around but it's a mystery how they can suffer it day by day.
Today gonna shill the movie there. It always attracts a good amount of Bernds.

Bernd 06/06/2021 (Sun) 05:29:42 [Preview] No.43869 del
k*hl has never been good though

I feel bad for other bernds there. The best alternative would be to make them all move here or to other locations outside of k*hl.

I believe we all need to accept the fact that kc is dead forever. We can never revive or relive what happened in the past. We should move on to greener pastures like this board or others.

Bernd 06/07/2021 (Mon) 16:09:37 [Preview] No.43892 del
It seems they cleaned /int/ from the pedo threads.

Oldschool Bernds now about other places, they have a choice.
I'm not comfortable going there and directly shill Endchan (the Kohl staff seems ok, the site is well functioning, with abundant features, custom tailored so it isn't just another run-off-the-mill Lynxchan), the movie nights, and the occasional invites to individual posters are just enough for me.

Bernd 06/11/2021 (Fri) 16:50:25 [Preview] No.43935 del
Cant stand that garbage site anymore. Absolutely terrible garbage. Never visiting that shithole again.

Bernd 06/11/2021 (Fri) 18:06:45 [Preview] No.43937 del
Add something nice here then. Make a difference.

Bernd 06/12/2021 (Sat) 06:13:02 [Preview] No.43938 del
No difference was made. Oh well.

Bernd 06/12/2021 (Sat) 07:38:54 [Preview] No.43939 del
I'll post when i feel like it.

Bernd 06/14/2021 (Mon) 23:00:15 [Preview] No.43988 del
Kohlchan code is open source, so anyone could run a clone if that is desired at any point.

Bernd 06/16/2021 (Wed) 07:37:38 [Preview] No.44001 del
I'm glad I stopped browsing nukc years ago. It's inception only brought in a lineup of pedis and an administrative defence banning those advocating against these degenerates.
What needs to be done is to remove kohlchan for good so the problem dissipates and we're left with a group that can be reformed through strong group moulding.

Bernd 06/16/2021 (Wed) 15:51:30 [Preview] No.44017 del
Are they still on cloudflare?
Make reportings.

Bernd 06/18/2021 (Fri) 19:47:55 [Preview] No.44058 del
Its pretty ded for the same reasons 99 percent of the chans opened in the last couple years are dead in that its just a general idea with no built in community or targeted community just a chan for the sake of being a chan
Its just another ded chan with no community and no direction which is exactly what the internet needs and everyone should open a chan so the internet becomes a graveyard of 1000s of chans with a hundred or so posts a piece
Good luck slovborg your ded kohlchan clone is definitely gonna be the one that ignites the alt chan science with your innovative new features like board creation
Hopefully you act really snarky on your boards with an admin tag never seen that before on alt chan
Thanks for this link I'll add it to the 200 or so ded sites I check regularly cause I have no real life and occasionally no has posted on sp kc in a few minutes

sorry, but I couldn't help myself and had to post the thing.

Bernd 06/18/2021 (Fri) 20:59:24 [Preview] No.44059 del
I think he was just referring to what I said about the board software and features.
What would be a community in your opinion? How to get to it?

Bernd 06/19/2021 (Sat) 07:41:30 [Preview] No.44060 del
it's a shitposting pasta whenever some shady chan advertises itself. there are tons of small chans that keep emerging and dying. these need at least a small set of regular posters, like sportschan or end/kc/. these are a nice alternative to the highspeed shitposting at 4kanker.

Bernd 06/19/2021 (Sat) 09:02:21 [Preview] No.44061 del
>whenever some shady chan advertises itself

Bernd 06/21/2021 (Mon) 05:09:28 [Preview] No.44083 del
Patch/Patchouli, a grifting jew who sets up multiple boards, spams them with inane bot replies and deletes the board after logging IPs and any data he can to sell.
Commonly associated with Freech, and other .xyz domains.

Bernd 06/21/2021 (Mon) 05:15:00 [Preview] No.44085 del
Thanks. Not unknown phenomenon, exactly that crossed my mind.

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