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Syria Thread - Suffering on the Ukraine Bernd 09/20/2022 (Tue) 10:15 [Preview] No. 48765
Previous thredder: >>47132

A bit of habbenings had on the Syria every couple of day, in general nichts Neues as the poet says.

On the Ukraine they go slow, but Ukrainians in Bilohorovka again, while Russians are now operating over the Bakhmutka, south of Bakhmut.

Bernd 09/20/2022 (Tue) 11:45 [Preview] No.48766 del
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Russians are constantly shelling New York. Joe Biden wake up, you're under attack.

Bernd 09/20/2022 (Tue) 13:05 [Preview] No.48767 del
The LPR, DPR and Kherson are going to be holding referendums on joining the Russian federation from the 23-27th of September. This could enable Russia to escalate the war.

Bernd 09/20/2022 (Tue) 13:50 [Preview] No.48768 del
>Joe Biden wake up

Just the right time.
Not sure about the moral of the troops they can gain. Some military age young men must be enthusiastic about it (nothing wrong with this either), but they don't represent their generation.

Bernd 09/20/2022 (Tue) 14:36 [Preview] No.48769 del
Zaprozhia Oblast is joining this referendum event too now. But, that's even more dubious because they don't even hold Zaprozhia the city yet so presumably they would not hold the majority of the population.

I don't think their are any issues with moral on either side and I think the moral aspect has been over emphasised in this war by the west in particular. They say that Ukraine will win the war simply because they are defending their homes and somehow that means they will win but history really does not reflect this. So long as soldiers are part of a cohesive and organised unit then they will fight.
It depends on how they decide to escalate. They might simply keep the war the same but start arming and training the militia groups as if they are part of the Russian army and mobilising more men within the region or they might go for a minimal mobilisation of conscripts of the Russian army.

Bernd 09/20/2022 (Tue) 23:25 [Preview] No.48770 del
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As this went unnoticed, here's a map of the specks of land Azerbaijan got across the Armenian border a few days ago. I wonder if they'll conquer a land connection to their enclave (and Turkey) when they have the chance.

Bernd 09/21/2022 (Wed) 07:39 [Preview] No.48772 del
This came earlier with couple of days.
So basically they doubling the amount of soldiers they have.
Until they get their training months will pass. However they could direct fresh troops there from other parts of Russia during that time.

Bernd 09/21/2022 (Wed) 07:48 [Preview] No.48773 del
Now Western bureaucrats bleeting the mantra, that "it is an escalation" and "the war will threats Europe" etc. So they are deebly goncerned their pals in the military industrial complex will earn a lot of money.

Bernd 09/21/2022 (Wed) 09:30 [Preview] No.48774 del
Putin announced a mobilisation of people with relevant experience and reservists and said they would be trained first.
Following this Shoigu went into more detail. He said they plan to mobilise 300,000 people, they will not mobilise students and refusing mobilisation will be punishable by up to 10 years in prison.
So yes, that doubles the amount of troops they have, however, Shoigu also said that conscripts would not be sent into combat which is curious. This means that either they are going to build this force up and then recruit volunteers from there to send to the front, or this force is not intended to be involved in the war at all but is meant to free up other soldiers and be used to stare off with the west.
Either way, I agree, this probably won't effect the war much for months.

Will it is a concern. If Russia had fought a quick war and finished it by now the Russian army would have stayed the size it was and at most it would be that 170,000-190,000 strong force sitting on Europe's borders, which is scary but not actually dangerous. Now, they are going to be looking at a Russia with that and more sitting on their borders. But then I really don't know what they expected, of course something like this was going to happen if the war dragged on too long.

Bernd 09/21/2022 (Wed) 10:03 [Preview] No.48775 del
I wonder who owns the Ukrainian armament factories.

Bernd 09/21/2022 (Wed) 10:26 [Preview] No.48776 del
This also means NATO will raise military spending more, from the current (recently raised) 2% of GDP.
Which means less money for schools and healthcare for us. And right now it is scandalous what's going on in Hungarian education. Teachers, students demonstrating all over, while we have shortage of teachers (at some places volunteer parents go in to teach), no money to heat the buildings, etc.

Bernd 09/22/2022 (Thu) 02:31 [Preview] No.48777 del
Azerbaijan military is putting field signs on vehicles now. We now what that means...

Bernd 09/22/2022 (Thu) 02:37 [Preview] No.48778 del
There has been a prisoner swap negotiated with the help of the Saudi crown prince of all people.
10 Foreighn fighters were releases including the Moroccan and two Brits that were caught in Mariupol, a number of other soldiers from that were released including some of the commanders.
The Russians got back some soldiers and officers as well and they also got the Oligarch they wanted.
Well it looks like all is well that ends well.

Bernd 09/22/2022 (Thu) 06:17 [Preview] No.48779 del
That A hes a banor?

Yeah. Back to the front.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=IYaRQKF0mpk [Embed]

Bernd 09/22/2022 (Thu) 19:25 [Preview] No.48782 del
Military History Visualized channel uploaded couple of Ukraine tank situation related videos, they aren't too fresh:
https://youtube.com/watch?v=FYmwfC99eek [Embed]
https://youtube.com/watch?v=SqoGKEMrTu0 [Embed]
3. (this one I have not watched yet)
https://youtube.com/watch?v=VxNFXIur5Co [Embed]

Bernd 09/23/2022 (Fri) 16:35 [Preview] No.48783 del
So the first video is about the tanks on the Ukraine and the Ukrainian officers observations.
The second video concludes that sending Leopard 2-s onto the Ukraine might not be the best idea, they can be more bother than worth and even can turn out to be entirely useless (some commenters pointed out that they still could replace the T series tanks in places without fighting but need tank cover for whatever reason, so those can be moved to active duty; which might be a good idea but means the Leos won't see any combat). The opinion of the Ukro officers in the first vid confirms this one.
In the third the bloke goes through a Bundeswehr evaluation from the '90s which compares the the T-72 and the Leo 1. The report was made for politicians who had to decide what to do about the tanks they inherited from the DDR. Interesting insights in the very end of he video.
These three are cool, offers other considerations, many and all round considerations about the armour warfare related to current conflict.

Bernd 09/24/2022 (Sat) 04:20 [Preview] No.48785 del
I remember I saw the second two some while ago. I like that this guy uses primary sources and a lot of his content is that, but when he adds his own arguments and opinions they can be silly.
It would make sense that the Germans would pick the Leopard 1 over the T-72 seeing as they would have designed the Leopard 1 to fit their requirements in the first place. But this gives an insight into what they value and why they made the Leopard 1 like that and it seems they wanted good situational awareness to react and adapt to the situation and good mobility.

Bernd 09/26/2022 (Mon) 06:22 [Preview] No.48807 del
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A BTR opened up on a line of M113s and apparently destroyed 6 of them(hard to see in this video there is a lot of smoke). This was to be expected...

Bernd 09/27/2022 (Tue) 22:41 [Preview] No.48829 del
Russian annexation of the liberated provinces will probably happen for real, the referendums have already taken place. Proofs:

Russia is losing in Lyman and has already given Ukraine another bridgehead around Kupyansk. In Kherson they can hold off the pressure better, but did not reverse the Ukrainian offensive and have lost a bit more ground.

Bernd 09/28/2022 (Wed) 06:40 [Preview] No.48832 del
I think the partial mobilization is a reaction to deeper problems. They probably are one step behind. I expect them to act in haste and make some mistakes which we'll might see.

Bernd 09/28/2022 (Wed) 08:43 [Preview] No.48833 del
It's hard to say what is happening in Lyman. They are not pulling out like in Izium even though they are in danger of being encircled. They are losing ground in places but will this be allowed and is this part of some other plan? I don't know, we will have to wait and see if Lyman falls or not.

As for Kherson, it's the same as it has been and in fact the Ukrainians have actually been pushed back a bit. As seen in this map compared to this map >>48747

The Partial mobilisation was done in conjunction with the referendums which had been talked about for a while now. They were always going to go together as once the Donbass enters Russia the nature of the war changes.

Bernd 09/28/2022 (Wed) 08:53 [Preview] No.48834 del
>They are not pulling out like in Izium
They pulled out from Izium because they had to.
And the referendums are reactions are deeper problems. What foothold they established it's slipping out from their hands. They need to move more troops in (need that mobilization), but they only can if they can justify it (changing the occupied territories to their own territories with the referendums).
Russians lost the initiative, the control of the events in Ukraine.

Bernd 09/28/2022 (Wed) 10:04 [Preview] No.48835 del
Yes, they withdrew from Izium to avoid being encircled. But they are in danger of being encircled In Lyman if they are not operationally encircled already. It's probably too late for them to pull out from Lyman now as well, they have allowed this. As the Rybar map >>48829 shows, the only remaining road network they have is through Zarichne which is very close to the front now. However, the road leading to the river from Kolodydyazi does actually run-through to a small road over a dam and then to Terny, so that may enable some resupply, but that is at risk as well.

They were planing the referendums for a long time and they had said before these offensives that they were going to happen at about this time. I think the two are unrelated. Remember, any mobilised reserves are not going to reach the front for months anyway and the Russians would have known about the troop build-ups for these offensives and would have an idea of what effect they would have. I think that if they were mobilising due to it they would have done so pre-emptively.

The forces in Khakiv were spread thin and were more of a screen than anything else, so they fell back very quickly and it does not impact the war in anyway. Lyman is different because they are actually fighting a determined resistance and as I mentioned above the Russians are not going to pull out, it's too late for that. They are committed to this.

So then whether Russia actually has lost the initiative and is in trouble or not depends on the events that will unfold in Lyman. For all we know the Russian may be quite happy letting Ukraine throw their forces into a meat grinder and just waiting for the Ukrainians to run out of steam before they counter attack. Conversely, maybe they are in danger, maybe the Ukrainians will take Lyman and then push further east. We don't know.

Bernd 09/28/2022 (Wed) 12:08 [Preview] No.48836 del
>they have allowed this
>they did it on purpose not the Ukrainians forced them and exploited their blunders and slowness, this was the plan all along
Russia can't keep up with Ukraine, and falls back in the race.
They had the initiative in the very beginning but they lost it day by day and now Ukraine has it. They are in trouble.
In their withdrawal there was very little planned, they were vis majored from their positions.
>They are committed to this.
And they'll get encircled and trapped. Then forced to surrender. This will be a major news. But not a turning point which decides if they lost the initiative or are in trouble. They both did and are.
>counter attack
Neither side have any such quickness/mobility in them, only when the Russians retreat. Plus no weight to do such thing either. Well now the Ukrainians maybe have it, but Russians aren't. They are committed east of Bakhmutka and Kherson.

Bernd 09/28/2022 (Wed) 12:37 [Preview] No.48837 del
Well, we are just going to have to wait and see. We will see what the situation is in a week or two or maybe even a few days if the situation really is bad for Russia.

Bernd 09/28/2022 (Wed) 12:45 [Preview] No.48838 del
I found this video that is interesting in two ways. Firstly it shows how funny looking these close fights often are, you often see people shooting at each other barely 10 metres away and both missing completely. But I guess stress does that and we don't know how well they are trained.
Secondly in this video a grenade is thrown right next to two Ukrainians and they both seem to barely be effected by it and they run of at the end. This often seems to be the case with all kinds of ordinance in this war, even artillery does not seem to have the effect that you would think it would.

Bernd 09/28/2022 (Wed) 16:56 [Preview] No.48839 del
That is interesting for sure.
Yeah, missing even from close range is just the reality of small arms fire. We talked about the inability to kill, but modern training aims to come over that obstacle. There are other factors too, as you noted stress does that, plus the effect of the grenade, disorientation, whatnot, I think they were glad to remember what direction to leave.
It seems the grenade fell among that rubble/junk next to them, and prevented to do its job ideally. I guess it had shrapnel and the rubble caught most of that (but then, the rubble itself can act like projectiles).
What I'm curious of, where those two came from? At the start of the video they aren't there. I think that is a drain running below the road, the other side collapsed obstructed (probably that's the normal, peacetime state of it...) so maybe they were inside the drain? But these drains with these roads don't tend to be hueg, so maybe they came somewhere from the outside of the camera's view?

Bernd 09/28/2022 (Wed) 19:41 [Preview] No.48840 del
>Putin announced a mobilisation of people with relevant experience and reservists and said they would be trained first.
>Following this Shoigu went into more detail. He said they plan to mobilise 300,000 people, they will not mobilise students

It's fucked up completely, even pro-government people try to soften what happened now. Voenkomats (military recruiting centers) grabbed everyone on random, even 60+ yo people with serious health conditions, often without any medical check at all. No one knows would it be 300k or million, or more, there are only rumors. There are reports that some of mobilized already gone to Ukraine without training, but it is hard to confirm now. Dagestan has local unrest, Chechnya was smarter and said that they wouldn't mobilize anyone.

Biggest thing is that Shoigu said something about ages and experience, but published government order had no restrictions at all - they can grab anyone.

Basically, everything in full panic now. Thousands run for borders to visa-free countries (like Georgia or Kazakhstan), airline tickets skyrocketed and hard to find. Borders aren't closed for everyone, but some people already got restriction. Different government branches trying to find how protect valuable workers in hurry, because mobilization was unexpected even for them. Some entities like Digital Technology Ministry have partially implemented solution for some workers (only for specific registered companies, but even this isn't fixed in law now), others still in talks with MoD.

>refusing mobilisation will be punishable by up to 10 years in prison.

Only if you signed under mobilization notice in voenkomat. At least for now, but situation changes pretty fast.

I don't meet Shoigu conditions for multiple reasons, but there is a chance that everything would be bad for me too, they've mobilized some people like me already. I took some effort in hiding though, but don't know if it would be enough.

Bernd 09/29/2022 (Thu) 02:58 [Preview] No.48842 del
Maybe, I don't think the rubble obstructed it that much though.
They could have come fro anywhere, maybe we will get a longer directors cut at some point and we will be able to see.

I heard about that, about how much of a mess it is. Though it's Russia so you expect that.

>Only if you signed under mobilization notice in voenkomat. At least for now, but situation changes pretty fast.
So what happens if you refuse to sign the papers in the first place? Could you do that?
Otherwise, staying low seems like a good option, though if they have you on record that might be hard.

I think conscription of any kind is immoral, one could eve say it's murder.

Bernd 09/29/2022 (Thu) 07:07 [Preview] No.48843 del
I only have knowledge about this from NFKRZ's and Survival Russa's videos. Links:
https://youtube.com/watch?v=q02QJ6NBhu0 [Embed]
NFKRZ basically is saying what you wrote. Survival Russia seems less skeptical about what the official said (particularly: they only pick for service who is able and has the related professional XP; but not about the losses for example). He also adds couple of considerations, opinion and anecdotal evidence. Liek they call people in, but who gets the draft letter gets examined and his data validated, then they decide about his fate. So the 60 yo gramps was called in then sent home, because he is old. The bloke who was called in but is more useful with his civilian profession sent home.
My XP is that when I had to go through the conscription process, I had to do run around for the medical papers, then after high-school I was notified to go into the next drafting office, then I gave a paper that I'm in uni now, then they gave my ID back and sent away. They have plenty of useless people to choose from they do not need every one of them.
Just because someone gets called up, doesn't mean he'll serve. At least right away, he'll be still put into the db that he is available for later or not. So what the real troubling is this:
>No one knows would it be 300k or million, or more

Do you have videos where people blowing each other up with grenades? We can check how it should happen, and then we could try drawing conclusions.
From my understanding anti-personnel grenades have shrapnels around the explosive core, and both the cape of the grenade and the shrapnels are which results injury and/or death. If these guys got out seemingly unharmed, it means something obstructed it, or we have the wrong idea how injured (and/or dead) people behave, or we have the wrong idea about the effectiveness of grenades, or this is a fake video.

Bernd 09/29/2022 (Thu) 13:39 [Preview] No.48845 del
>So what happens if you refuse to sign the papers in the first place? Could you do that?

There are different types of papers that have different consequences. Some of these papers only about monetary fine, some are harder. They also can force you to do something, because it is Russia. Or at least try.

>He also adds couple of considerations, opinion and anecdotal evidence. Liek they call people in, but who gets the draft letter gets examined and his data validated, then they decide about his fate. So the 60 yo gramps was called in then sent home, because he is old. The bloke who was called in but is more useful with his civilian profession sent home.

That is what they often say in official and half-official news. But it very depends on local voenkomat and chance. Those people who are very unfit and get media attention have chance, but there are reports about those who haven't. Now it is very political, and government now unofficially blames voenkomats by pro-gov media.

Biggest problem that every decision is very high-risk. You may think that they'll surely will find you unfit on visit, but they'll do and now you can't escape. So every move, every action is very nervous and serious, because it is life changing one.

Dutch bernd Bernd 09/29/2022 (Thu) 14:54 [Preview] No.48855 del
New NFRKZ video. Banks in Russia are now stealing money from people who use it.

What's going to happen with you bernd? Are you going to get drafted too? And will drafts start in other countries too, like Baltic or Balkan states? What are the long term effects of this new draft?

Bernd 09/29/2022 (Thu) 18:58 [Preview] No.48857 del
>What's going to happen with you bernd? Are you going to get drafted too?

No one knows. In current situation I don't think that my future will be good.

Bernd Board volunteer 09/29/2022 (Thu) 19:00 [Preview] No.48858 del
If life gives you potato, make vodka. And post an IWO from upon the Ukraine.

Bernd 09/29/2022 (Thu) 19:01 [Preview] No.48859 del
Oh god. I forgot I'm logged in, and have the signature on.

Bernd 09/30/2022 (Fri) 06:33 [Preview] No.48861 del
>stealing money
>special operation of ceasing your finances

Bernd 09/30/2022 (Fri) 06:34 [Preview] No.48862 del

Bernd 09/30/2022 (Fri) 13:16 [Preview] No.48864 del
Putin and the delegates or whoever just signed the, uh, liberation papers of four oblasts, Lugansk, Donetsk, Zaporozhia, and Kherson.
He gave a speech too, some justifications and whatnot. Nothing really astonishing.
Now these regions are liek Crimea, which isn't acknowledged as part of Russia, but in practice everyone do as it was. Even Ukraine did not attack Crimea when they had the opportunity. Will this deter them, and stop further actions towards these places? Will they retreat from those areas which still are on their hands?
For example Lyman is in Kharkiv region, but they hold large chunk of Donetsk.
Will they move cautiosly as they did not really attack into Russia herself. Russia already mobilized and took steps to raise their presence there. Now the ball on Ukraine's side of the field. We'll see.

Bernd 10/01/2022 (Sat) 05:55 [Preview] No.48867 del
If Muhammad had red hair, he was probably a (((Jew))).

Bernd 10/01/2022 (Sat) 09:37 [Preview] No.48870 del
This is the situation around Lyman today.

Only the road to Zarichne remains for resupply but the Russians have sent reinforcements through it and have worked to stabilise the front, the Ukrainians had taken Stavky as well but the Russians pushed the Ukrainians back from there.

Russian forces are in a dangerous situation in that pocket, I wonder if they will try to break out and form a new line or not.

Bernd 10/01/2022 (Sat) 11:37 [Preview] No.48871 del
Apparently the Russians have withdrawn from Lyman, interesting. The reinforcements must have been there to facilitate that.
So now the question is whether the Russians have secured their positions and the Ukrainian advance will stop here, or if the Russians really are in trouble and the advance will continue.

Bernd 10/01/2022 (Sat) 12:40 [Preview] No.48872 del
Yes, they withdrew.

Bernd 10/01/2022 (Sat) 14:33 [Preview] No.48873 del
Turns out Lyman is in Donetsk, not Kharkov as I stated here: >>48864
They still have a strip of Kharkov to the north.

Russians withdrew behind a river, they might just hold the line there.
I expect the Ukrainians take the aforementioned strip.
What's up with Kherson?

Bernd 10/01/2022 (Sat) 16:54 [Preview] No.48874 del
They had months to prepare a more ordered mobilization and didn't. I guess the political leadership thought any preparation for mobilization at all would already be a loss of face and induce fear.

Special financial operation.

Bernd 10/02/2022 (Sun) 18:28 [Preview] No.48877 del
Ukros moved further east from Lyman, they might have a foothold over the Zherebets river.
Further north at Kupiansk, at the one river back to west (Oskil), they also crossed and took Kivsharvika.
Plus some results at Kherson too.
The result of the Russian mobilization will have effect only later. But in what form?

Hmm, this report says the Russians lost 60K soldiers. I heard Russians estimate 60K Ukrainian losses too. Sounds a lot for both sides. But the conflict is going on for well over 200 days now. The last numbers (100-200 and 1000 deaths per day) we heard about the Ukrainians from June... I wonder what could be the daily average. If we go with the smallest number that's 20K. I don't think the highest could reflect an average. That 60K would be 300/day. Maybe that isn't too high.

Bernd 10/03/2022 (Mon) 00:56 [Preview] No.48881 del
Russia started the war with 170,000-190,000 and conventional wisdom is that for every dead soldier there are 3 maimed. So if Russia lost 60,000 dead then the real losses to their fighting forces would be 240,000 all up with dead plus maimed. Now, there is clearly a discrepancy here, if that's true Russia should not even have anybody left in Ukraine.

When they announced mobilisation they also said they had lost 5000 but that was only Russian servicemen, a few months ago the CIA and M!6 said they lost 10,000 but I think that estimate covered everybody. So it's possible that if you added DPR, LPR, Chechens, Wagner and Russians you could get 10,000 or that Russia lied and gave a figure a bit lower than the real one and 10,00 is more accurate. But Russian causalities could also still be higher than that. It's really hard to estimate these things.

Bernd 10/03/2022 (Mon) 01:29 [Preview] No.48882 del
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Yes, it looks like they are launching fairly large scale attacks in Kherson and are having some success in the north of the region.

As for the east of Ukraine. I'm still unsure about it. Torske is behind a river but it's a fairly small town/village so the Russians may have felt that unable to hold it and so it may be a situation like the Kherson bridgehead. However if they take Kreminna then we know for sure that they still have momentum, Kreminna is quite important.

It's hard to say what effect the mobilisation will have and when but I don't think it will be the deciding factor here, I think the deciding factor will be whether the Ukrainians can keep their momentum or whether Russia can wear them down.

Also, I found and Australian M113.

Bernd 10/03/2022 (Mon) 10:29 [Preview] No.48886 del
Kadyrov is sending his 16,15 and 14 year old sons to the front...

>Ahmat, Eli and Adam are 16, 15 and 14 years old. Their military training began a long time ago, almost from a young age. Ahmat, Eli and Adam are ready to use their skills in the SVO zone. I'm not kidding, it's time for them to show themselves in a real fight, and this is their wish, I can only welcome it. They will soon be on the front lines.

He is insane. This has to be a stunt.

Bernd 10/03/2022 (Mon) 10:58 [Preview] No.48887 del
Literally all their ancestors were fighting in that age. Or do whatever Chechens were doing back then.

Bernd 10/03/2022 (Mon) 11:55 [Preview] No.48888 del
Latest Kherson map. They are gaining ground.

Bernd 10/03/2022 (Mon) 13:49 [Preview] No.48890 del
More from Kherson(it's kind of in the other one as well though).

They may finally take Davydiv Brid. I said before that I think that town is very important and that the gains they had in the south would be untenable without it.

Bernd 10/04/2022 (Tue) 08:02 [Preview] No.48892 del
Military History Visualized new video about the Russian setback:
https://youtube.com/watch?v=AcgzB9hqxqo [Embed]

But more importantly updates from Colonel Reisner:
https://youtube.com/watch?v=Q9-NER8aFJ4 [Embed]
https://youtube.com/watch?v=MojUU8GgThM [Embed]

Bernd 10/04/2022 (Tue) 12:14 [Preview] No.48893 del
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The strip of land north of Łyman up to the border has been... liberated? Abandoned? Idk, I guess it has been abandoned by the Russians since there's no marks on the map about fighting, except for the few places on the south.

Bernd 10/04/2022 (Tue) 12:16 [Preview] No.48894 del
Stay safe Bernd, don't get dragged into the frontline.

Bernd 10/04/2022 (Tue) 12:25 [Preview] No.48895 del
The first video by Colonel Reisner of the Australian Bundesheer is partially about that. He talks about the Ukrainian offensives in Kherson and Kharkov: >>48892
Essentially the Ukrainians punched through the Russian lines, and Russians fled.
I also suggest to watch other of his videos on the channel.

Bernd 10/04/2022 (Tue) 12:29 [Preview] No.48897 del
Oh sorry, it's the since then.
liveuamap is a bit funky in this question, it doesn't present all the events, and the map updates are erratic.

Bernd 10/05/2022 (Wed) 01:27 [Preview] No.48906 del
Russia fell back from northern Kherson including Davydiv Brid, the Ukrainians also launched a counter attack in the Donbass along the front near Bahkmut but it failed. They are really pushing now. Most of the units involved in these operations seem to be using western equipment or Soviet equipment from western sources, so these units were probably build up and held back for this offensive.

The Ukrainians had a bridge head at Kupiansk and also you can see that there are no natural defences in the south and that the area is fairly open and with few urban areas, so I think they are withdrawing to form a new line along the next river along.

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