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Bernd 11/17/2019 (Sun) 20:06:30 [Preview] No. 32381
I just realised something... something spooky as fuck.

You know how sumo is derived from some ancient rituals? How it was performed in shrines, to appease the kami, to ensure prosperity? It was only later professionalised, and is now performed on a national level by salaried wrestlers, but there are still many religious elements, from how the ring is consecrated by a priest before each tournament, yokozuna entering the ring with that big white rope around his belt, to wrestlers actually throwing salt into the ring before each bout as a means of consecration. It is a deeply religious ritual, somehow performed to appease the kami for the entire nation of Japan. Kinda like how the ancient Olympic Games were performed on temple grounds, and were a form of vitalist worship of Greek gods.

You know when's the last time sumo wasn't performed as scheduled? March 2011. The March of the earthquake and tsunami that rekt Japan. But guess what? The tournament was cancelled a month before. Because of some match-fixing scandal. Yep, that's right. And the earthquake happened 2 days before the tournament was scheduled.

The earthquake happened because the sumo ritual wasn't performed. Because the kami weren't appeased. They were pissed and caused the earthquake as a warning.


Bernd 11/17/2019 (Sun) 20:10:45 [Preview] No.32383 del
I just hope you won't take photos of yourself dressed in nothing but a Muwashi.


Bernd 11/17/2019 (Sun) 20:23:30 [Preview] No.32386 del
o-oh crap I'm gonna die in earthquake, I should have worshiped demons haha


Bernd 07/28/2020 (Tue) 06:06:33 [Preview] No.38819 del
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Calm down.
Volcanoes and tsunamis almost never happen. Here is a picture of my sumo hero. Do you recognize him?


Bernd 07/28/2020 (Tue) 17:03:23 [Preview] No.38822 del
Turned out he took photos in even less.


Bernd 07/28/2020 (Tue) 19:25:41 [Preview] No.38830 del
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There are plenty of such spooky legends, it is specific genre of modern folklore.

Like Timur tomb legend: tomb was opened by Soviet archeologists at 19th of June 1941, and at 22th war started. Sources say that there was a curse of tomb (typical), evil spirit of war was inside it etc. Multiple strange thing occurred at excavation, equipment was broken, water suddenly filled tomb for some time, and more. And when Timur remains were buried there again at November of 1942, Red Army started to win at Stalingrad.

Of course there are no credible sources or proofs, and story looks like another "Pharaoh tomb curse" remake.


Bernd 07/28/2020 (Tue) 19:27:43 [Preview] No.38832 del
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Oh, also forgot

>sumo

Western barbarians are better in sumo, so gods are angry on their failed Japanese children.


Bernd 07/29/2020 (Wed) 15:56:18 [Preview] No.38850 del
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>>38830
Good story.
Curious the case of the Seuso Treasure.
It's a (probably) 14 piece silver treasure hoard originally found by a Hungarian soldier who dug illegally at an excavation of an antique Roman villa. His body found hanging by the neck from a tree, it is suspected he was murdered to rob him also to silence him about the origin of the treasure. The pieces found their way into the possession of the Marquess of Northampton. They were sold to him with falsified documents by Lebanese sellers claiming Lebanese origins. After the regime change the consequent Hungarian governments spent time and money on lawsuits to get the treasure back, fruitlessly (they sued the Marquess, but US court confirmed his rights he is a high ranking freemason btw, I'm not saying this could play any role in the decision of a US court...). Now we are paying for the right of safe-keeping... but at least they are home again. Supposedly.

>>38832
Heh, I crossed my mind to post that.


haru basho 2021 Bernd 03/02/2021 (Tue) 16:27:22 [Preview] No.42766 del
So... wanna follow sumo together?

March banzuke is out (since yesterday). Haru basho is starting in 2 weeks - this time in Tokyo instead of Osaka due to corona precautions making it easier to organise at home.
http://www.sumo.or.jp/EnHonbashoBanzuke/index/

here's also Chris Gould's video on it (imo the best gaijin to follow for information on sumo in english) if you prefer an introduction with a little bit of commentary to just tables

a short recap:
- Kakuryu seems to be in good form, so he can squeeze another good result as yokozuna before retiring?
- Hakuho had corona in January, he looks solid enough to fight but not solid enough to excel. not clear if he won't just bail out the last moment
- Takakeisho had a disastrous last basho. He has to win 10 to keep ozeki rank.
- Terunofuji still sekiwake but he's probably earning ozeki promotion this tournament if nothing goes wrong.
- can Asanoyama start a run for yokozuna? (imo, not likely - but he was runner-up in January and with a champion title this time he might be near)
- if you like watching manlet sumo: look out for: Midorifuji (the katasukashi master: grab his shoulder and push him down), Tobizaru, Kotoeko, Terutsuyoshi; Enho and Ishiura are in 2nd division this time though
- Hoshoryu continues slowly climbing. Can he become a yokozuna like his uncle Asashoryu was? He's a mongol so he certainly has the chadvantage here :DDD
- Tochinoshin is still somewhere in the middle of top division. His knee and shoulder are fucked though and I don't think he'll be back at the top ever.

There's a bunch more promising young names a bit further down in 3rd division; otherwise sumo ranks seem a bit depleted these times. A lot of old rikishi past their peak and a lot of middle aged rikishi clearly not good enough to challenge the top. Sad!


Bernd 03/02/2021 (Tue) 17:05:51 [Preview] No.42767 del
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>>42766
Sure. We'll prevent many earthquakes.
My granma liked to watch sumo. Well, she liked all kinds of sports.
I'm not up-to-date in the terminology however. Haru basho is hanbasho? And all the other stuff.
Will there be streams? Mayhaps we could through in some on End's cytube channel.


Bernd 03/02/2021 (Tue) 17:07:34 [Preview] No.42768 del
>Name
>Mangaljalav Anand
>Anand
Is he in Indian Mongolian?


Bernd 03/02/2021 (Tue) 17:11:05 [Preview] No.42769 del
>>42767
Haru is spring, so haru basho is the spring tournament.

There's a twitch channel that does livestreams (mbovosumo) and there's a youtube channel that does daily recaps (nattosumo) - well, he gets copyright strikes a lot lately.


Bernd 03/02/2021 (Tue) 17:14:54 [Preview] No.42770 del
>>42769
>twitch
That can be streamed on cytube.
Daily recaps would be nice since am too fairly busy these days.


Bernd 03/02/2021 (Tue) 17:15:56 [Preview] No.42771 del
>>42768
It's a buddhist name in Mongolia. They have a decent amount of names of Sankrit etymology that way.

Another one: Hokuseiho, birth name Ariunaa Davaainj, is named after Arjuna.


Bernd 03/02/2021 (Tue) 20:13:00 [Preview] No.42775 del
>>42766
>here's also Chris Gould's video on it (imo the best gaijin to follow for information on sumo in english) if you prefer an introduction with a little bit of commentary to just tables
Oh shit did I forget to link video?
Here: https://youtube.com/watch?v=g8-9Kkdqd0Y [Embed]


Bernd 03/03/2021 (Wed) 18:42:58 [Preview] No.42788 del
>>42775
Okay. Watched it.
What's that East and West?


Bernd 03/03/2021 (Wed) 23:51:02 [Preview] No.42789 del
>>42788
In practice: Two sides of the sumo hall. You'll notice that the wrestlers enter and leave the ring in two different ways - those are the east entrance and west entrance. (You'll notice that there's actually four corridors - but two are not used by wrestlers.) The ring entering ceremony is also performed each side separately. This however has no meaning for the matchmaking; bouts are not limited to one wrestler east vs. one wrestler west.

The sides east and west are decided before each tournament; wrestlers with the same numerical rank but one east and the other west are considered to having the same power ranking. However at the very top (yokozuna, ozeki, sekiwake and komosubi not so much) where differences are not that small, the wrestler considered stronger is normally placed in the east slot.

Hakuho is practically constantly Yokozuna east.


Bernd 03/04/2021 (Thu) 08:14:27 [Preview] No.42791 del
>>42789
So when nuances matter, East is more prestigious.
Do they associate colors with cardinal directions?
What are those big waifu pillows hanged onto their front?


Bernd 03/04/2021 (Thu) 09:20:16 [Preview] No.42792 del
>>42791
>Do they associate colors with cardinal directions?
Yep.
You'll notice that above the dohyō (the ring itself on that clay platform) a roof is suspended, with four coloured tassels in place of where there would normally be pillars. They point towards four cardinal directions: green for east, red for south, white for west, and black for north.
Originally, those were actual pillars - they were replaced to prevent unwanted injuries from bumping into them when thrown out of the ring. Or, the official excuse is, because they were blocking clear view of the wrestlers. Because as we all know, big guys aren't afraid of getting hurt a little.

>What are those big waifu pillows hanged onto their front?
Keshō-mawashi. The wrestlers wear them for the ring entering; the ornate part is actually just one side of what's otherwise a normal loincloth (mawashi) like the one they wear during bouts. They're donated by sponsors and the design is often some kind of an advertisement.


Bernd 03/06/2021 (Sat) 16:02:47 [Preview] No.42822 del
Haru basho is starting on next Sunday.

There's now a couple updates on wrestlers' form and expectations:
• Kakuryu, the current yokozuna west, is determined to perform. He's sat out last three tournaments, and pulled out of so many tournaments after poor performance, he has only fought 4 out of last 14 basho until the last day. He sounds more sure about his form than usual (he often waited until the last day before announcing whether he's participating or not) however he mentioned that he has been having a bit of a cold for last three weeks. It is understood that it's just a slight flu and not corona.
• Terunofuji wants to seal the promotion to ozeki. He won 13 bouts in November and 11 in January, judging by historical statistics he will need another 11 this time. He hasn't participated in public practice though, and has been working on improving stamina instead.
• Takakeisho is kadoban ozeki. Kadoban means he's "cornered" – his poor performance last time means he will be demoted unless he wins 10. He has lost about 10-15kg since last tournament. Good for him, he was getting too fat and it's been ruining his stamina. His left ankle is still not completely healed, oops.
• Takayasu, currently on komusubi rank, says he's feeling back in top form and wants also to get back to ozeki rank, where he was all the time since mid-2017 until the end of 2019. He won 9 bouts in January (also as komusubi), and as a rule of thumb needs about 34 over 3 tournaments to get there, on an improving form – implies he can get there by summer if he wins 12 and 13 this time around and in May. Or, on a longer run, if he wins at least 11 every tournament from now on.
• Midorifuji, a lightweight who surprised in January not so much by great performance in lower top division as by that he won five (!) of his bouts by katasukashi – under-shoulder swing down, reports his back is fucked, a herniated disk or something. He's still in but can't expect to show a good performance. A shame; he put on a good show on January.

I will probably follow-up with a post explaining a bit of how bouts take place, with all the important terms you should probably memorise if you want to follow the commentaries.


Bernd 03/06/2021 (Sat) 17:09:19 [Preview] No.42823 del
>>42822
>pulled out of so many tournaments after poor performance
How can he still remain yokozuna? Does he have so many victory?
How come some ranks have three competitors?
How much influence height and weight has? Is it know such things as muscle/fat ratio? Do they get weighed like boxers?
How a tournament is organized? Everyone wrestles everyone? Or is a there a group stage and knockout stage? A victory over a higher ranking sumo worth more points? And against a lower ranking worth less?


Bernd 03/06/2021 (Sat) 19:01:17 [Preview] No.42824 del
>>42823
The top four ranks don't have a limit on how many wrestlers can hold them.
Yokozuna is a permanent title, usually awarded for an ozeki that wins two consecutive tournament titles, or (especially in case of a very dominating yokozuna already being active) one win and two runner-up in three, but criteria are subjective and decided on a case to case basis. Thus, there is no demotion from yokozuna; the most the sumo federation can do in case of such performance is write you a letter suggesting you to retire and apologise for shamefur dispray.
The title of ozeki is performance-based; an ozeki is expected to win at least 10 bouts every tournament; promotion is conferred upon reaching this level (usually 32-33 wins in 3 tournaments are needed to confirm form); and demotion comes after having a losing score (so 7-8 or worse) in two consecutive tournaments. (I mentioned before that Takakeisho needs 10 wins as a kadoban – this is incorrect; just a winning score will do, but 10 wins are the requirement to be immediately promoted back to ozeki. This is to allow for ozeki who had a bad performance due to injury to be able to return faster, so yeah, Takakeisho only needs 8 wins, not 10 this time around.) There are always at least two ozeki – but there have been situations where an ozeki was demoted freeing up his slot with no other wrestler ready for promotion. In those situations, one yokozuna is placed in the ozeki slot instead. At no point has it happened that there have been fewer than 2 ozeki and no yokozuna available to fill the vacancy, and nobody knows what happens in that case.
There's no limit to sekiwake and komusubi ranks and there's always at least two wrestlers in those slots – whoever is good enough to be near the top. If there's more than four wrestlers competing considered to be at this level, there will be extra slots created to accommodate them.
Usually there's 8-12 wrestlers in those top 4 ranks – but for example last March, there have been only 7 (with only one ozeki, so Kakuryu filled the other ozeki slot). I don't remember a case of there being more than 12 wrestlers that high up – perhaps at one point where there were 4 yokozuna active? Not in 2017 which is last time that happened, though.

There are no weight classes; so there's pressure to put on as much weight as possible before it weighs you down too much to kill your stamina. They do get weighed at regular health checks, though, so at least the rough data on their current weight is publicly known.
Height – for best performance you'd need to have long arms and short legs. Lower centre of mass is better for balance while longer grip is better for grapples. Top division wrestlers are generally around 185-190cm and 140-160kg, so it would seem that past 190cm average body build has too long legs. There's also not many under 175cm primarily because short wrestlers struggle with grapples, so short wrestlers are either extremely technically skilled (Enho, or Mainoumi during the 90s), or invest fully into pushing and thrusting (Takakeisho).
Body fat percentage? That is generally not known, but various data from health checkups implies most have about 20% body fat. To bulk up even more muscle and go for lower body fat percentage is probably doable – but apart from Tochinoshin few invest in that. Well Hakuho looks relatively lean too. Might change in the future? I think the current high fat is a bit of a fluke – response to Hawaiians and Samoans who dominated during the 90s. And it's easy to get a headstart into sumo as a kid if you're fat.


Bernd 03/06/2021 (Sat) 19:01:42 [Preview] No.42825 del
>>42823
Tournament takes 15 days and the schedule – torikumi (can mean either a single bout or a daily schedule) – is decided a day ahead, even before the matches happen (so if a wrestler is injured during his bout the previous day, he will still have a scheduled match, and his opponent wins by default). At the start the schedule follows certain established patterns (top wrestlers never start facing each other); later on the schedule is adapted to current performance. Since there's a lot more than 15 wrestlers in a division, they will not all face each other. If a wrestler at the bottom of a division shows very good performance during first 10 days (when he normally wouldn't've faced anyone from the top of the banzuke), he will be scheduled to face other title contenders (to avoid an awkward situation where a wrestler who wasn't expected to win the title wins without having faced top contenders). Also, the yokozuna will face each other during the last day (or the last couple days when there's more than two). If there's more than one wrestler having the same winning score at the top on day 15, they will do extra playoff bout (or bouts if there's more than two).
In general, everything is improvised on spot.
Each win is one point, and – again in an improvised manner – the ranks for the next tournament are decided based on last tournament scores. Since wrestlers usually face other wrestlers ranked around them, there's no weighing of results based on opponents.


Bernd 03/07/2021 (Sun) 16:34:22 [Preview] No.42834 del
>>42824
>Lower centre of mass
Maybe this is why fat is favored over large muscles. Fat deposits build lower, one can't really have bulky stomach and lower back muscles...

>>42825
>if a wrestler is injured during his bout the previous day, he will still have a scheduled match, and his opponent wins by default
I think I see the reason behind that. It's kinda honor bounds the wrestler, preventing him to back out with some pretense if he doesn't want to face a scheduled opponent.


Bernd 03/08/2021 (Mon) 18:00:54 [Preview] No.42848 del
>>42834
>Maybe this is why fat is favored over large muscles. Fat deposits build lower, one can't really have bulky stomach and lower back muscles...
Probably. Note that a lot of wrestlers also build enormous legs. Comes from all the squats and heavy pushing, and helps with keeping ground firmly. Tochinoshin's thighs were supposedly over 90cm at peak.

>I think I see the reason behind that. It's kinda honor bounds the wrestler, preventing him to back out with some pretense if he doesn't want to face a scheduled opponent.
Yep. A lot of rules are set around preventing wrestlers from backing out for no real reason. Note also that sitting out the tournament due to injury is considered equivalent to having a 0-15 losing score when it comes to setting the rankings for the next time. Some westerners will say it's unfair because it forces wrestlers to come into the ring while still not fully healed – but iirc there was a period where they were experimenting with being a bit more lenient and the result was, higher-ranked wrestlers would overblow injuries and sit out when they didn't feel at top form.
It's a bit of a bummer if you land down below 2nd division after an injury (only top two divisions have regular salaries, the rest are only entitled to having living expenses covered + small sum of pocket money), but if you're really that good, you'll be back up in no time. Terunofuji e.g. had a series of health related issues and an injury in early 2018 and quit in May, only to return in March next year, landing as low as Jonidan 48W (5th division), and after roflstomping everyone in his path was already in juryo by January 2020 and would have competed in May if not for corona tournament cancellation. And he's now challenging again for ozeki title, where he was in 2017.


Bernd 03/08/2021 (Mon) 18:26:09 [Preview] No.42849 del
Btw Asanoyama officially hinted at going for yokozuna. He mentioned in an interview that he's aiming to get promoted to a higher rank – and since he's already ozeki...


Bernd 03/09/2021 (Tue) 14:12:28 [Preview] No.42855 del
All these talking made me remember a Hungarian comic book - would have been three volumes, only two were published - about ninjas. Quite a few aspects of Japanese culture were conveyed by them there was a scene with sumos as well. Too bad I barely remember, I have somewhere those comic books, couldn't find them yet.
I looked up the author since his doctorate is noted by his name. He is an economist surprisingly, but he was an organizer of six karate world championship, so I assume he has a passion for martial arts, and Japan.


Bernd 03/09/2021 (Tue) 14:14:50 [Preview] No.42856 del
>>42855
There was a scene depicting a samurai duel, the sumo scene was similar, sketching up some basic rules I think.


Bernd 03/11/2021 (Thu) 17:29:43 [Preview] No.42868 del
And – Kakuryu pulled out. He "injured his leg while training" or something.
Last time he performed as expected was last March. In July he quit after losing the very first bout, and he hasn't participated since.
It is expected he will receive another angry letter from the elders reminding him this is shamefur dispray and hints that he should retire.
Kakuryu is determined to give one final proper performance before that, though.

Corona tests came back negative for all wrestlers, but two coaches are positive. No word yet on whether any wrestlers will be quarantined, or if their contact has been limited enough for it to be considered safe. Word is that Sadogatake stable which has three wrestlers in top division (Kotonowaka, Kotoshoho, and Kotoeko) also had a corona outbreak earlier among lower ranked wrestlers (who have to live in communally, so personal isolation is not really possible for them), but top division wrestlers supposedly trained separately from them.

Today is also both Hakuho's 36th birthday (making him the oldest active yokozuna in over 50 years) and the 10th anniversary of the 2011 Tohoku earthquake and tsunami.

>>42855
>>42856
Neat.


Bernd 03/11/2021 (Thu) 17:31:18 [Preview] No.42869 del
Now for the promised explanation of some terms, and how bouts proceed:

In addition to the two wrestlers (rikishi – strongmen in Japanese), you will also see:
• the announcer (yobidashi). one of them announces the bout (in a drawn out singing voice – announcers also clap those sticks that are a meme) and display advertisement before a bout (sponsors can put money into award for each single bout of a day; their banners will be displayed before that bout, and the money goes to the winner of that bout). they are otherwise responsible for building the clay dohyo and for maintaining everything that needs to be there during the whole tournament.
• the referee (gyoji – in ceremonial kimono, a hat, a paddle in his hand) – his role is making sure the bout proceeds according to rules; he gives instructions to wrestlers ("hakkeyoi" at the start of the bout and "nokotta" to indicate to continue fighting; if anything was wrong with the start he will call "matta") and he awards sponsors' money to the winner at the end
• if referee fucked anything up, the five judges (shimpan – in black kimono, sitting besides ring; they are all retired wrestlers) will call "mono-ii" – they will discuss what they saw and nowadays also receive instructions from the camera room where a replay is analysed. if it is still too close to call, a rematch is called: torinaoshi.

Before each bout, you will see a ritualised procedure: stomping (both originally a ritual to ward spirits and a stretching exercise), drinking water from a wooden ladle, throwing salt, first faceoff broken up before going off to wipe sweat and show off for the audience a bit more, and then finally go for the real faceoff to start the bout. Before the bout can start, both wrestlers need to touch both hands on the dohyo, behind the white lines (doesn't matter how far back, but very few retreat very far back) – in case this doesn't happen synchronously, a false start is called. Also if wrestlers take too much time, they will be reminded by gyoji to hurry up.
After the bout, the loser takes a bow while the winner receives the reward.

I think that's most of what you should be aware of. As for forbidden techniques – kicks (excepting tackles, strictly to the legs) and punches (with a closed fist) are not allowed; twisting fingers, poking eyes, choking, anything involving groin, biting, pulling hair – I think that's about it. Everything else is allowed (this includes [i]pushing[/i] the neck or any kind of open hand thrusts, or slaps)
I recommend you to watch a shokkiri performance: https://youtube.com/watch?v=H9YlYke6060 [Embed] This is a comedy performance done on promotional events where wrestlers demonstrate how a bout should [i]not[/i] proceed, full of gags.


Bernd 03/11/2021 (Thu) 20:32:43 [Preview] No.42871 del
>>42822
>Sunday
When exactly? You wrote there's a live stream on twitch. I think I'll be available from around 17 CET. If not hopefully we could check that youtube recap.
It is also needs to be shilled, maybe others are interested.


Bernd 03/12/2021 (Fri) 01:26:24 [Preview] No.42872 del
>>42871
Sunday morning. Japan is 8 hours ahead of Europe so by the time it's late afternoon and the important bouts start it's still morning in Europe.
Translated to CET, typically juryo starts at around 6:30 and makuuchi at 8:00, the whole thing ending by a bow twirling ceremony by some time around 10:30.
As I mentioned before I expect mbovosumo to stream it on twitch (he restreams official english commentary), and nattosumo usually uploads his daily recaps on youtube late afternoon the same day.


Bernd 03/12/2021 (Fri) 14:23:52 [Preview] No.42877 del
>>42869
That's a fun video. They move surprisingly light and quick.
>finally go for the real faceoff
When the gyoji drops the puck.

>>42872
If everything goes well I go for a hike on Sunday. Maybe if I pack my pack on Saturday I can squeeze a bit of time at Sunday morning for sumo.
Is there an opening ceremony?
And from now on the tournament will go on every day for 15 days (to March 29)?


Bernd 03/12/2021 (Fri) 23:05:48 [Preview] No.42880 del
>>42877
Yes – there's an opening ceremony, the day before (on Saturday) – so tomorrow. The dohyo which was made out of clay and sand over last couple days is consecrated – by an offering of salt, food (rice and a couple other items) and sake. It's essentially a continuation of the shinto harvest rituals at which sumo was originally performed to appease the spirits. The ceremony is performed by the chief gyoji. Chris Gould has a video on it: https://youtube.com/watch?v=E41rGzIq_so [Embed]
After a little googling it turns out it will be livestreamed on youtube. Starting in 2 hours.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=s-ZJ5El60cY [Embed]
The tournament will then continue running for 15 full days – ending on Sunday, March 28. (there's only 14 days date difference, but if you count that both opening and closing day have their own bouts, it comes down to 15!)

And yes – they look like clumsy fatties, but the way they move in the ring, really shows a lot of that bulk is actually muscle.

If you have time in the morning, that's great. I would recommend you to just set up the stream and watch during breakfast or something.


Bernd 03/13/2021 (Sat) 10:01:53 [Preview] No.42888 del
All right here's also the fixtures.
http://sumo.or.jp/EnHonbashoMain/torikumi/1/1/

You may notice that because there's an odd number of wrestlers still competing in makuuchi (since Kakuryu pulled out) the first bout is between a top-of-juryo guest (Tokushoryu, who won the top division last January actually as a complete underdog) and the bottom-of-makuuchi Daiamami. This happens occasionally; later on during the tournament, such bouts may also be arranged as a promotion-relegation struggle.

>It is expected he will receive another angry letter from the elders reminding him this is shamefur dispray and hints that he should retire.
He did not, or so it seems. Hakkaku-oyakata (ex-yokozuna Hokutoumi) who's responsible for those letters merely gave a statement it should be entirely down to Kakuryu when he should retire. Guess he's being given a bit of leniency so that he makes it until the Olympics opening ceremony.


Bernd 03/13/2021 (Sat) 11:20:25 [Preview] No.42890 del
>>42880
I think I'll have time from 7 to 9. Gonna find channels and such today.


Bernd 03/13/2021 (Sat) 14:13:50 [Preview] No.42894 del
Can't embed shitty twitch into cytube. I get error whatever I try.


Bernd 03/13/2021 (Sat) 14:38:12 [Preview] No.42895 del
Whatever I try it fails.


Bernd 03/13/2021 (Sat) 19:09:33 [Preview] No.42896 del
> Twitch has banned http://cytu.be from embedding Twitch content due to allegedly violating their ToS. As such, Twitch is no longer supported on the main site (but you can still host your own)
Fugg. No twitch stream on our cytube channel


Bernd 03/13/2021 (Sat) 20:37:33 [Preview] No.42897 del
>>42896
Oh well. No chat then (I don't feel like making a twitch account just for this)

Does your browser support picture-in-picture? In my firefox I can pop out videos so they play on top even if I switch tabs or even windows. So it's possible to open one tab with twitch, pop-out their stream, and place it over a chat in cytu-be. It's suboptimal but it'll do in a rush.


Bernd 03/14/2021 (Sun) 06:00:52 [Preview] No.42899 del
>>42897
Sure, can do similar.
You here now?


Bernd 03/14/2021 (Sun) 06:42:27 [Preview] No.42902 del
What's the gyoji saying?
>tattararattatattararattatattararattatattararattatattararatta


Bernd 03/14/2021 (Sun) 07:30:13 [Preview] No.42905 del
Wtf, that mbovosumo stream repeats.


Bernd 03/14/2021 (Sun) 09:21:08 [Preview] No.42906 del
>>42899
yeah I stayed up late yesterday again and overslept, sorry

>>42902
>tattararattatattararattatattararattatattararattatattararatta
it's supposed to be
>"nokotta" to indicate to continue fighting
but yea they just slur it like that lol


Bernd 03/14/2021 (Sun) 18:03:14 [Preview] No.42913 del
>>42906
Tomorrow then. From 7 to whatever.
Will be recaps on that yt channel you mentioned?


Bernd 03/14/2021 (Sun) 22:12:55 [Preview] No.42919 del
>>42913
Yeah I watched the recaps. Liking how Terunofuji and Asanoyama look. Hakuho rushing everything and still getting away with it. Wakatakakage vs. Takanosho was exciting too. But Ichinojo just overpowering Tochinoshin completely... yeah didn't expect that. And Midorifuji playing the trick game on Hoshoryu, he must have been pissed after that.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=UFACeqNNS0k [Embed]


Bernd 03/15/2021 (Mon) 06:07:15 [Preview] No.42920 del
Well I'm here.


Bernd 03/15/2021 (Mon) 06:56:08 [Preview] No.42921 del
Do the winners hand over the water to the next rikishi? And since only one side can win, the person only change when a contestant from the same side wins?
How do the non-Jap wrestlers get their Jap names?
This color commentary sounds appealing. I like the low-key and generally calm tone. Lots of:
>Hmmmmm
and
>Hai
Fun.
I see as soon as both osumosan touches the ground the bout starts. Some are reluctant putting their hands down, some are very quick to do it first. Does it mean some advantage? Or it's just individual preference who can do better from which position?


Bernd 03/15/2021 (Mon) 07:09:14 [Preview] No.42922 del
>>42920
I'm now here too, I see I'm just in time for the makuuchi to start

>>42921
>Do the winners hand over the water to the next rikishi? And since only one side can win, the person only change when a contestant from the same side wins?
it's either last winner or the one in waiting for next match. it can't be someone who's already lost
How do the non-Jap wrestlers get their Jap names?
as you go up to higher divisions, jap wrestlers take ring names instead of their real ones too. there's usually patterns in names; some stables have all wrestlers take the same prefix or suffix, and often they're references to earlier wrestlers or to something pertaining to where they came from.
They're fancy sounding names in general.
Hakuho for example = white phoenix.
Aoiyama = blue mountain.

OK now for Kaisei – Akua bout.


Bernd 03/15/2021 (Mon) 07:13:13 [Preview] No.42923 del
>>42922
Ehh, I just closed the stream. It hogs my machine and I've some customary writing to do for March 15 (national holiday and all that), and later I've some stuff to do.
I'm hanging around tho.


Bernd 03/15/2021 (Mon) 07:25:16 [Preview] No.42924 del
You had another question:
>I see as soon as both osumosan touches the ground the bout starts. Some are reluctant putting their hands down, some are very quick to do it first. Does it mean some advantage? Or it's just individual preference who can do better from which position?
Yeah there's a long story here. Historically this was just customary and you'd often see them just charging each other straight without doing any effort to touch the ground. You still see that in old videos. It was there more as a guideline, how to make it synchronous.
During the 90s, I think? they started being a bit more strict about it. Turns out that if you actually have to start from fully squatted position, the balance is different. So some prefer to just swing with hands down without taking a squat.
For example Hakuho will NEVER be the one to touch first. He wants his opponent to submit here. Which seems to help with his quick and powerful initial charge.

>>42923
OK I'll alert you for the last couple bouts, if you wanna rejoin.


Bernd 03/15/2021 (Mon) 07:30:03 [Preview] No.42925 del
lel I love how terutsuyoshi throws all the salt he can grab


Bernd 03/15/2021 (Mon) 08:35:26 [Preview] No.42926 del
last 4 bouts will commence soon, if anyone still wants to join
Shodai - Onosho
Takakeisho - Daieisho
Takayasu - Asanoyama
Hakuho - Takarafuji

I'm in mbovosumo twitch channel


Bernd 03/15/2021 (Mon) 08:53:22 [Preview] No.42927 del
oh wow this was a good bout. Takayasu seems to really be in good form like he boasted before the tournament


Bernd 03/15/2021 (Mon) 09:00:58 [Preview] No.42928 del
Takarafuji tried and managed to get position advantage but Hakuho pulled out a nice throw for the win. Well fought.

I think I should have time tomorrow too.


Bernd 03/15/2021 (Mon) 15:50:37 [Preview] No.42934 del
>>42928
Tomorrow is good.

>>42925
>>42927
>>42928
For now they arr rook the same to me. I'll need to read the competitor list a couple of times.


Bernd 03/15/2021 (Mon) 18:13:22 [Preview] No.42940 del
>>42934
Takakeisho = hamster looking fella
Takayasu = hairy dude
(you can start with those two)

I'll also bring attention to this guy, lower down in the makushita (3rd) division: Shishi, this is his 5th tournament and he's had a 6-1 in every tournament so far
https://youtube.com/watch?v=t9XWPs63coE [Embed] (at 6:53)
He's Ukrainian, looks a bit clumsy still but he's tall and strong and might as well be in top division by next year


Bernd 03/16/2021 (Tue) 06:12:25 [Preview] No.42945 del
>>42940
He looks like Josh

Okay. I'm here basically will check the stream, if you wanna chat there's our cytube channel, or endchan's irc.


Bernd 03/16/2021 (Tue) 08:14:05 [Preview] No.42946 del
Little dude is intense, defeating fatties rapidly.


Bernd 03/16/2021 (Tue) 16:31:46 [Preview] No.42948 del
>>42945
So uh. I had to take dad's car to the mechanic this morning and he didn't tell me he won't have time to do it himself yesterday. Bummer.
Also had a job interview today and they seemed to be interested in taking me. Which means I will finally have a real job that pays properly and not just some paid internship for students.

>>42946
I watched the replays. Enho? I saw him do a sidestep (= henka; it's generally considered a shamefur move but he gets a pass since he's smol) and slapdown in penultimate bout in juryo. He's good. Was crowd's favourite when he made top division in 2019. He's in the same stable as Hakuho, he's been his protégé since he joined.

Also ouch Akua in the next bout seems to have rekt his right knee trying to balance on the edge. They really should get some ringside medic for such cases rather than always have to awkwardly wait whenever a wrestler can't stand up until someone comes from the backstage to help them out.

And wtf Hakuho is out? Something about his knee he had a surgery half a year ago. He looked strong, is he not confident enough?


Bernd 03/16/2021 (Tue) 19:11:36 [Preview] No.42952 del
>>42948
I'll be around in the mornings, sometimes for longer, sometimes less, sometimes earlier, sometimes later, watching the stream a bit.
Yeah, Enho. I saw when he made the opponent go flat on his belly like a frog. Well kinda. He looks very intense and quick.


Bernd 03/17/2021 (Wed) 06:29:30 [Preview] No.42956 del
Let's see what this day brings. Won't even fire up cytube, but I'm on endchan's IRC.


Bernd 03/17/2021 (Wed) 08:00:04 [Preview] No.42960 del
What is considered a nice, honest good bout? A good victory?
Liek exploiting the other sumo's momentum and sidestep is generally frowned upon. What's the opposite?


Bernd 03/17/2021 (Wed) 08:46:04 [Preview] No.42961 del
Another win for Enho. Twisted the guy onto the ground like in judo or aikido or whatever.


Bernd 03/17/2021 (Wed) 16:19:03 [Preview] No.42964 del
Those summaries on nattosumo's channel have captions?! In Latin?! With comparisons?! Noice.


Bernd 03/17/2021 (Wed) 22:58:23 [Preview] No.42966 del
OK I wasn't around today but tomorrow morning I have time. See you in the IRC, probably.

>>42960
Nice dodges at the edge and spectacular throws. Anything that shows a successful trick on the opponent, but improvised during the bout and not prepared ahead. Also going in for the belt is considered better form than just pushing (looking at you, Takakeisho)

>>42964
Yeah, and he has timestamps to each bout in the comments below.
When watching live I usually keep the official torikumi (http://sumo.or.jp/EnHonbashoMain/torikumi/) open in another tab to keep track easier.


Bernd 03/17/2021 (Wed) 23:00:35 [Preview] No.42967 del
Also, nice to see Akua's knee is okay, I think? I didn't expect to see him in, after how he overextended it yesterday.


Bernd 03/18/2021 (Thu) 06:17:10 [Preview] No.42970 del
henlo, good morning
let's watch some sumo


Bernd 03/18/2021 (Thu) 07:01:21 [Preview] No.42972 del
>>42970
I'm here now.


Bernd 03/18/2021 (Thu) 07:31:44 [Preview] No.42973 del
>>42966
I watched two vids from the yesterday's face offs on nattosumo's channel. To be honest this sport is starting to grow on me.
I noticed the winning "moves" have names. I imagine there are some main types any can be categorized in.
Were a couple of deadlocks, and some really nice wins - clean and technicals too -, well from my viewpoint was exciting, reacted with a couple of "wow"s.


Bernd 03/18/2021 (Thu) 07:33:57 [Preview] No.42975 del
>>42972
Not much interesting action today so far...
Enho won another one, but that one was just gifted by Tokushoryu. Meh.

Also just watched Chiyoshoma beat Akiseyama mostly by tripping him. Not a technique you see much...


Bernd 03/18/2021 (Thu) 07:35:20 [Preview] No.42976 del
>>42975
Was a good deadlock just right now.


Bernd 03/18/2021 (Thu) 07:35:49 [Preview] No.42977 del
>>42973
>I noticed the winning "moves" have names. I imagine there are some main types any can be categorized in.
There's about 80 of them recognised, including a couple non-techniques which are technically losing moves (when opponent makes a mistake and it's on him completely).
Search for "kimarite" if you're interested in finding a list of them. There were also short youtube clips demonstrating each winning move.


Bernd 03/18/2021 (Thu) 07:37:46 [Preview] No.42978 del
Midorifuji vs Tobizaru (the bout after the next one) will be interesting, they're both on the lighter side; can expect some judo techniques used


Bernd 03/18/2021 (Thu) 07:48:12 [Preview] No.42979 del
Big fall.


Bernd 03/18/2021 (Thu) 07:48:45 [Preview] No.42980 del
>>42978
Yeah I was right; a long bout with several attempts before deadlock was broken.


Bernd 03/18/2021 (Thu) 08:18:17 [Preview] No.42981 del
Now the little guy.


Bernd 03/18/2021 (Thu) 08:21:30 [Preview] No.42982 del
Wasn't nice. That tower of fat was just basically fell by himself.


Bernd 03/18/2021 (Thu) 08:25:39 [Preview] No.42983 del
>>42981
>>42982
Wait, you're watching from the start rather than live?


Bernd 03/18/2021 (Thu) 08:27:02 [Preview] No.42984 del
>>42983
I'm watching the twitch stream, as it comes.


Bernd 03/18/2021 (Thu) 08:27:17 [Preview] No.42985 del
test


Bernd 03/18/2021 (Thu) 08:29:49 [Preview] No.42986 del
Okay, reloaded it and clicked here and there and now it's in English.


Bernd 03/18/2021 (Thu) 08:33:05 [Preview] No.42987 del
>>42986
Yeah I think for some reason your stream started playing from the start instead of livesynced – I was about an hour and a half ahead of you.
Last four bouts now. Time for Terunofuji to just overpower another one (Onosho) again?


Bernd 03/18/2021 (Thu) 08:35:12 [Preview] No.42988 del
>>42987
On the weekend we could stream the recaps on cytube and talk there.


Bernd 03/18/2021 (Thu) 08:35:57 [Preview] No.42989 del
>Oh-no-show.
Murrican pronunciation is killing me.


Bernd 03/18/2021 (Thu) 08:42:44 [Preview] No.42990 del
>>42989
>Show-die


Bernd 03/18/2021 (Thu) 08:49:04 [Preview] No.42991 del
gottem

Takakeisho often gets in trouble when he loses momentum.


Bernd 03/18/2021 (Thu) 08:51:25 [Preview] No.42992 del
>>42991
You mean Tuh-kuh-kay-show.
Now I'm completely confused. Yesterday I saw the white panty guy bleeding from his left brow yesterday on nattosumo.


Bernd 03/18/2021 (Thu) 08:56:56 [Preview] No.42993 del
Wow Asanoyama escaped that grip nicely, changing his hands from inside to outside.
If he can keep this form, he's getting a yokozuna promotion this year, I think...


Bernd 03/18/2021 (Thu) 09:01:20 [Preview] No.42994 del
>>42988
>On the weekend we could stream the recaps on cytube and talk there.
Yeah, let's do that.


Bernd 03/19/2021 (Fri) 06:57:05 [Preview] No.42998 del
>chasing yogidoo at the moment
What?


Bernd 03/19/2021 (Fri) 18:18:49 [Preview] No.43006 del
Finally found time to watch the today's bouts.
Damn, Terunofuji is stronk.

>>42998
What?


Bernd 03/20/2021 (Sat) 06:51:20 [Preview] No.43016 del
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>>43006
How about watching the nattosumo's summaries today at 18 on cytube?
>What?
I dunno the anchor said it, that someone chasing yogidoo.


Bernd 03/20/2021 (Sat) 10:34:20 [Preview] No.43020 del
>>43016
Cool, see ya at 18 (I'm assuming 18 CET no daylight savings)


Bernd 03/20/2021 (Sat) 13:30:18 [Preview] No.43022 del
>>43020
You're assuming it right.


Bernd 03/21/2021 (Sun) 17:00:38 [Preview] No.43052 del
Here.
5 minutes and will be really here.


Bernd 03/22/2021 (Mon) 18:36:04 [Preview] No.43060 del
So, today...

I think Enho's bodyslam was the highlight of today.
Also, Ura is out after hurting his left leg his bout with Enho yesterday, but it's a minor injury and he hopes to be back for the final days.

In top division, both Takayasu and Terunofuji still looking dominant.


Bernd 03/22/2021 (Mon) 18:42:58 [Preview] No.43062 del
>>43060
>I think Enho's bodyslam was the highlight of today.
Exactly. It was very nice win. And since Chiyomaru lost he leads the list.
Takakeisho's win was also nice.


Bernd 03/23/2021 (Tue) 20:28:54 [Preview] No.43071 del
Enho was slapped onto the ground as if he was a kid. Shame.


Bernd 03/23/2021 (Tue) 21:57:48 [Preview] No.43074 del
>>43071
And Takayasu giving us another great performance. With Terunofuji's mistake today, he's in prime position to get dat yusho now


Bernd 03/24/2021 (Wed) 06:57:54 [Preview] No.43077 del
>>43074
What's a yusho?


Bernd 03/24/2021 (Wed) 08:12:33 [Preview] No.43078 del
>>43074
Just watched that bout. That was something. Takakeisho just got tired by the end. Or he seemed so.


Bernd 03/24/2021 (Wed) 18:28:11 [Preview] No.43087 del
The tiny lad did good. I was worried there for a moment, but turned out to be a spectacular win.
It also kinda sucks, that if you successfully throw out someone, and clearly you initiated the move, you can still lose if you fall a bit quicker.


Just watched Aoyama pushing out his opponent by his head, kek. Broke out from the hug and pushed hard.


Bernd 03/25/2021 (Thu) 18:38:22 [Preview] No.43098 del
Nothing decided yet in Juryo. Will see how the rest will go. A couple of bouts were exciting, liek Mitoryu vs. Takakento, long with a couple of twists.


Aoiyama pushing his way forward with the force of thousand boars.
The match of Kotoshoho was a surprise. He handled the opponent well, and won quick. What happened to him in the beginning?
Ryuden has an interesting way of "knocking" on the ground to start the bout.
Poor Onosho, I'm startin to feel sorry for him.
Takayasu won easily. Three bouts left, I doubt he will lose two.
Also the three non-Asian, the Burglar, the Br, and Gogi rooks the same. Well, their face.


Bernd 03/25/2021 (Thu) 22:35:20 [Preview] No.43099 del
>>43077
Oh I forgot to explain that term: yusho = tournament championship.

I've been away lately and just catching up.
Besides the bouts.... heard that Kakuryu is actually retiring. That he was supposed to start training yesterday to hopefully get in shape for May at least and it didn't go good. And decided to just announce he's retiring in the heat of the moment.
He got the jap citizenship in December which means he's at least eligible to stay as an elder, but since he hasn't managed to obtain elder stock yet (you need to buy your membership in form of taking hold of one of the available names, so it's a limited number) he now has 5 years before his yokozuna awarded membership expires.
Speculation: Azumazeki-beya was announced to be sadly closing in April since no replacement for their last stablemaster who suddenly died a year ago was found. Is Kakuryu ready to take that over, last moment?


Bernd 03/26/2021 (Fri) 19:10:35 [Preview] No.43110 del
Interesting how the "fans" clap the deadlocks. Sounds more like a polite encouragement to go on, instead of an actual applause.
>ok both of you fighting good enough not to get beaten fast, but you have to go on and end the match


Bernd 03/26/2021 (Fri) 19:39:06 [Preview] No.43113 del
Okay. I noticed Aoiyama repeating same moves. He "dances" with his opponent to the edge of the ring, then reaches up with one hand to his chin and pushes his head back hard, while with the other hand he pushes on his chest. I'm pretty sure that chinpush which does it more.


Bernd 03/26/2021 (Fri) 23:00:03 [Preview] No.43116 del
So, we've come to the last two days...

Terunofuji faces Asanoyama tomorrow and will need to face Takakeisho on Sunday to have all three Ozeki matchups.
Shodai vs Asanoyama will be the last Ozeki vs. Ozeki matchup on Sunday.

Takayasu has already faced all the Ozeki so, on paper, he has easier matchups than the rest (Tobizaru tomorrow)... but with both him and Terunofuji going into the last two days with 10-3, a playoff for yusho is still easily possible.
But I have no idea who they're going to match him against on Sunday. Takanosho maybe? We could still be in for another surprise. Wakatakakage showed that Takayasu also sometimes makes mistakes...

>>43113
Yeah he's not that versatile – it's usually either this or slapdowns. Hey if it works why fix it.
We watching together in the afternoon?


Bernd 03/27/2021 (Sat) 00:04:07 [Preview] No.43117 del
>>43116
>>43116
Do you have the stream or the website where the tournament is being done in?


Bernd 03/27/2021 (Sat) 07:24:11 [Preview] No.43126 del
>>43116
>We watching together in the afternoon?
Yeah, at 18 CET, as usual.

>>43117
We watch it on End's cytube channel, I just throw the vids from nattosumo's youtube channel in.


Bernd 03/27/2021 (Sat) 11:41:11 [Preview] No.43129 del
>>43117
This >>43126
cytu.be/r/endcorner

However if you want to watch in real time (tomorrow is final day, time is in the morning euro timezone – but DST tomorrow if your country still observes that will push it one hour later than I said earlier in this thread, so finishing by 11AM), it's on mbovosumo channel on twitch.


Bernd 03/27/2021 (Sat) 16:42:39 [Preview] No.43135 del
In less than 20 mins, frens.


Bernd 03/28/2021 (Sun) 13:55:22 [Preview] No.43143 del
Fugg, almost forgot about the haru basho. And now since it's later it will be earlier.
Anyway I'm gonna stick with 18 UTC, worse case scenario, gonna wait an hour.


Bernd 03/28/2021 (Sun) 17:23:21 [Preview] No.43145 del
It's finished.
When will be the next tournament?


Bernd 03/28/2021 (Sun) 17:39:09 [Preview] No.43146 del
TERUNOFUJI YUSHO 12-3
gg (He was also awarded an extra prize for outstanding performance.)
He is now back to Ozeki.

Congrats also to Aoiyama and Meisei for fighting spirit prizes, and Wakatakakage for technique prize.

And to Takayasu, despite choking in the final days... his son was born just before the tournament. And 10-5 is good enough to start an ozeki run.

>>43145
Natsu basho is starting May 9. Same schedule – Sunday to Sunday. Official rankings are to be released about 2 weeks before that.

It's a quite brutal tempo, 6 tournaments of 15 days each every year. Means they spend roughly 1/4 of their time competing.
Normally they'd be doing regional tours and training in between during off-season, but regional tours are suspended due to corona, so...

After that, they have Nagoya basho in the summer — this time scheduled not to overlap with the Olympics. Hakuho was expected to participate in the opening ceremony back in 2020 – if he doesn't get told to retire (well, given implications that they expect him to do so due to shamefur dispray) he should still be there. After that, he's likely retiring just like Kakuryu in any case.


Bernd 03/28/2021 (Sun) 23:11:58 [Preview] No.43148 del
>>43129
>>43126
Didn't really know fam. Ya gotta announce these things to everyone tbh


Bernd 03/29/2021 (Mon) 08:34:54 [Preview] No.43161 del
>>43148
Sorry m8. It's all mentioned higher up in this thread but they don't stand out at all and guess I can't expect people to go digging to find them, thread has grown long...


Bernd 03/29/2021 (Mon) 10:32:06 [Preview] No.43162 del
>>43161
I think it's his nice way of saying I should have made site wide announcements, like with the Movie Nights.

>>43146
Yeah, it was better than expection. There were quite a few moments when I cheered irl. I think main selling point is that these are fairly quick, frequently intense matches. At first it's hard to follow a bit, since bunch of new foreign faces, names, and expressions, but then one will notice the order and gets familiar with everything.


Bernd 03/29/2021 (Mon) 23:09:56 [Preview] No.43170 del
>>43161
>>43162
Maybe next time announce it in the general Film thread that's posted around all boards so people know of it. Or post a sticky header in the splash page of Endchan More peeps === more mems and ebin bantz :-DD


Bernd 04/01/2021 (Thu) 13:46:42 [Preview] No.43190 del
Dropping a couple vids of old bouts.

Asashoryu vs Kotonowaka, 2004 Nagoya basho, Day 8.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=LM6uQaIaYdw [Embed]
A bit controversial due to the move Asashoryu pulled, leading to a rematch. A slight problem is that the move there was so out-of-the-books that it would be impossible to categorise it as any of the accepted kimarite.

Musoyama vs Chiyotaikai, 1998 Nagoya basho, Day 9.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=nrinbn50Cmo [Embed]
A slapfest. Slapping is allowed in sumo while punching isn't – sometimes rikishi "abuse" this rule in the ring.

Takamisakari vs Aran, 2009 Aki basho, Day 9.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=UmPcjVt3LzQ [Embed]
Takamisakari is a bit of a bernd. He's an elder now and sometimes he gets confused when supposed to explain the judges decision after mono-ii. He was much more confident on the dohyo, though. This bout was another very energetic one – in the end, an illegal move was the reason why the bout was called the way it was by the judges. (Which one?)


Bernd 04/01/2021 (Thu) 17:56:14 [Preview] No.43192 del
>>43190
>1st
Sensational. Pulling himself up, while the other down.
But he beat him the second time as well. Did good.
>2nd
Big enough slaps to the chin also can cause concussions, short blackouts. And generally could be confusing as hell, getting a flurry of slaps, and preventing you what you wanna do.
>3rd
The one comment below says which move was illegal. That bun is so conveniently handful, just ask for some grabbing.


Natsu basho 2021 Bernd 04/28/2021 (Wed) 18:08:13 [Preview] No.43422 del
Next tournament is starting in less than 2 weeks now, and banzuke chart has been released on the weekend.
http://sumo.or.jp/EnHonbashoBanzuke/index/

To recap: Kakuryu has retired, Terunofuji and Takayasu advanced a rung to ozeki and sekiwake respectively (so there's now four ozeki, with Shodai in danger of being kicked if he doesn't produce a winning score this time); Ishiura, Chiyomaru and Akua advanced to 1st division (all have been there before), Enho just barely missing a spot. Yutakayama and Kotoshoho meanwhile were demoted to 2nd division.

At least the first three days of the tournament will be in an empty arena due to another corona outbreak in Tokyo.

In other news, there was a report on the state of sumo in the current era. I haven't read the report since I can't read Japanese, and the tl;dr on English language media I can get is mostly "gaijin bad, shamefur dispray, hakuho doesn't deserve being granted special elder stock (note: historically yokozuna who won 20 or more tournaments, starting with Taiho, were awarded a spot in sumo eldership without having to buy a regular one that's passed down through generations)". DESPITE BEING ONLY 9% OF PROFESSIONAL SUMO WRESTLERS, GAIJIN HAVE BEEN INVOLVED IN 70% OF THE REPORTED CASES OF VIOLENCE IN THE BACKSTAGE
(It's funny because Taiho was himself half-Ukrainian.)
https://youtube.com/watch?v=IhN7OnW8XHs [Embed]
https://www.japantimes.co.jp/sports/2021/04/21/sumo/hakuho-elder-name-report/


Bernd 04/28/2021 (Wed) 18:25:08 [Preview] No.43425 del
>>43422
I'm looking forward to it.


Bernd 04/30/2021 (Fri) 14:21:33 [Preview] No.43453 del
Sad news: Hibikiryu died in hospital 2 days ago where he was recovering from planting face into the clay full force a month ago, day 13 of last basho.
Report said he was showing slow but promising recovery of sensation in lower body but died of pulmonary embolism (common hospital complication from long time immobility).


Bernd 04/30/2021 (Fri) 16:34:02 [Preview] No.43454 del
>>43453
>day 13
It was on the 26th. I watched that. I can't recall. Gonna check nattosumo's summary.


Bernd 04/30/2021 (Fri) 16:43:23 [Preview] No.43455 del
Huh. He has only the Juryo and Makushita vids up.


Bernd 04/30/2021 (Fri) 17:21:33 [Preview] No.43456 del
>>43454
>>43455
He was on the sandanme so I don't know if anyone has videos up.
Any case it looked very bad, he compressed neck obviously and just laid flat on the ground.

I think he takes them own as a precaution bc of copyright strikes.


Bernd 05/06/2021 (Thu) 21:11:32 [Preview] No.43528 del
Chris did a video on how much money do they pay in sumo.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=JbgN_jTrK_Q [Embed]

Note: this is just what comes through the organisation. Top guys will also have personal sponsorship deals.


Bernd 05/08/2021 (Sat) 20:23:02 [Preview] No.43538 del
Sumo is starting tomorrows

Who isn't showing up:
- Hakuho (lol)
- Aoiyama (something about back pain, might join halfway through)
- Midorifuji (herniated disc after having broblems last time already, looking bad for his career tbh)
- Ryuden (broke lockdown lol, told to sit out due to shamefur dispray)

- me, most of the time probably; I'm hella busy. will try to catch up by the end

Hakkeyoi!
https://youtube.com/watch?v=WgOrTbCSV4Y [Embed]


Bernd 05/08/2021 (Sat) 20:27:37 [Preview] No.43539 del
>>43538
Gonna follow. Not sure about my tomorrow, will see, but after that will watch at least the summaries.


Bernd 05/10/2021 (Mon) 06:57:23 [Preview] No.43550 del
So empty the place even in Juryo. Very first bout was breddy gud. Fugg, Pinkypanty had to hold hard into his opponent knee not to fall, but with that he just pushed the other guy out.
Noooooooooo, Enho was beaten quick. Bad start, but it's just the first day.
I like sumo.or.jp it just werks in IceCat.


Bernd 05/10/2021 (Mon) 20:32:41 [Preview] No.43559 del
Took time to watch just a couple bouts today...

Enho vs. Ura: Good bout, shitty outcome – not doing favouritism here but overextended elbow on day 2 isn't good for Enho.
Takayasu vs Chiyonokuni: Takayasu looking like he's too cautious, inb4 he chokes at the end again
Tobizaru vs Takanosho: nice
Asanoyama vs Meisei: Meisei won that one with footwork, this is why just pushing forwards doesn't always win
Hokutofuji vs Terunofuji: ha, Teru had to work for this one a bit more than I expected. Don't get what exactly he did to make Hokutofuji try that full turn that lost him the bout tho?
Shodai vs Wakatakakage: nice
Mitakeumi vs Takakeisho: huh Takakeisho lost the pushing match; maybe he should't've lost so much weight lol

I see NHK is also working extra on cinematic angles. Empty arena has some advantages...


Bernd 05/10/2021 (Mon) 20:44:02 [Preview] No.43561 del
>>43559
Oh this is today's matchup. I only watched Sunday's yet.
>Mitakeumi vs Takakeisho: huh Takakeisho lost the pushing match; maybe he should't've lost so much weight lol
Yesterday Takakeisho won quick tho.

>Empty arena
What's the explanation? Corona?


Bernd 05/10/2021 (Mon) 20:55:58 [Preview] No.43562 del
>>43559
>Enho vs. Ura:
Enho's early spring might have shown a bit of nervousness?
He has to be careful with his arms, those are his only defense, preventing his opponents to hold him down. And also his main offense.


Bernd 05/11/2021 (Tue) 17:58:43 [Preview] No.43570 del
Enho got beaten again. Didn't seem his arm hurting.
Asanoyama vs Wakatakakage was an exciting bout. Could have ended right after the start, but then they danced around a lot. And nice finish.
Then the Terunofuji match was short and sweet.
Shodai vs. Daiesisho was funny. Double jump.


Bernd 05/12/2021 (Wed) 17:49:07 [Preview] No.43588 del
Bushozan and Kotoshoho won quick their 4th victory, however Ura lost. It was a long struggle, very good fight, this is the first time I saw a deadlock without "locking".
Enho was beaten again - his arm is bandaged, he should have rested out a couple of bouts, me thinks, maybe it's a honor thing, it would look shamefur.
How Wakatakakage beaten Takayasu!
Maybe Takakeisho is a one trick pony but it works for him. Many rishiki seems like that tho.
Terunofuji continued the streak. He's doing good, I'm glad. How much for him to become yokozuna?


Bernd 05/13/2021 (Thu) 17:48:20 [Preview] No.43595 del
Era had very nice win.
Enho won in his Makuuchi fight. But I think he really needs some rest to heal. Now he had a bit if limp too.
Terunofuji continues the winning streak. Although it would have been nice to see Wakatakakage win.


Bernd 05/13/2021 (Thu) 18:00:52 [Preview] No.43596 del
>>43595
>Era
I meant Ura ofc.


Bernd 05/14/2021 (Fri) 00:57:39 [Preview] No.43603 del
>>43570
>>43588
>>43595
SlovBerg needs to be here to give his onions on this


Bernd 05/14/2021 (Fri) 06:46:19 [Preview] No.43605 del
>>43603
Yes but he rarely will. So it's just me.
Context, for yesterday's bout:
I was watching the match ups of the two top sumo divisions.
First the 2nd division (Juryo) and after it the 1st (Makuuchi).
Sumos winning their bouts getting points and on the long run are moved further up in the divisions.
Ura and Enho in the 2nd div, on the top of it, those guys sometimes are matched with wrestlers from the 1st div, it's a way of deciding if they belong there.
Enho had a match like that yesterday and won. However previously in current tournament he lost the fights against his opponents in the 2nd div, and he also hurt his arm. He is a tiny guy, like 165 cm tall and 90 kgs, and sumos over 180 cm and 150 kgs are regular, and larger dudes at 190 cm and 195 kg aren't that rare. So he is really tiny in comparison, in fact he is the smallest. So he faces extra challenge, which makes him sympathetic for many.
Ura is another top sumo (or rikishi, sumotori, or osumosan) in the 2nd div. He wears pink mawashi, this is why I might call him Pinkpanty Pink Panther ged it?.
Terunofuji is a top wrestler in the 1st division, his face reminds me of a type of face I can see here on the Hungary, probably a Turanic heritage. It's a simple open face with a glint of humor in the eyes, which sometimes gives away the calculating thoughts behind the brow, and the occasional violence that can erupt. I think he is my favourite.
Wakatakakage I like for his name. And he isn't a bad fighter either. Doing good now.


Bernd 05/14/2021 (Fri) 18:51:48 [Preview] No.43610 del
Enho was beaten again. Am disappoint.


Bernd 05/15/2021 (Sat) 16:20:14 [Preview] No.43615 del
Gonna stream the Juryo and Makuuchi bouts in an hour. Cca.


Bernd 05/15/2021 (Sat) 17:55:40 [Preview] No.43616 del
>>43603
I'm not very here sorry

>>43570
>Shodai vs. Daiesisho was funny. Double jump.
Yea I saw that. Should have been a rematch imo :^)

>>43588
>Terunofuji continued the streak. He's doing good, I'm glad. How much for him to become yokozuna?
normally you need two yokozuna worthy scores in a row as an ozeki, but there's small chance he can get promoted straight with a 15-0.
Another interesting thing is that if Hakuho can get full 15 days in July, and since he's likely to retire afterwards, Hakuho's very last bout could be against Terunofuji. Would be the best way to hand over the torch imo

>>43610
Enho is fucked, elbow and then ankle...

>>43615
I can show up tomorrow, will have time


Bernd 05/15/2021 (Sat) 17:57:27 [Preview] No.43617 del
btw here's clips of terunofuji doing some weight training
https://youtube.com/watch?v=xaTjkX_vHbY [Embed]


Bernd 05/15/2021 (Sat) 18:54:54 [Preview] No.43619 del
>>43616
Paying a bit more mind to the Ozekis. Asanoyama seems disciplined, but Terunofuji might be the most talented - or at least the cart runs for him the best now. I don't have much opinion on Shodai yet. Takakeisho is stable, but doesn't have much "imagination".
>Would be the best way to hand over the torch imo
I concur.
>Enho is fucked, elbow and then ankle...
Yeah, and this basho they throw him about like a kid. I suspect he still participates because he might score a victory somewhere while sitting out would mean automatic loss, and probably he can't afford that. On the other hand he risks more serious injury.
>I can show up tomorrow, will have time
Good. Did we start it at 6pm last time? I think it would be ok about that.

>>43617
Reminds me I still have to much the vid about how much they make: >>43528


Bernd 05/16/2021 (Sun) 10:30:29 [Preview] No.43627 del
>>43619
6pm is good


Bernd 05/16/2021 (Sun) 15:26:05 [Preview] No.43628 del
>>43627
Cool.


Bernd 05/17/2021 (Mon) 16:46:05 [Preview] No.43649 del
Takayasu vs Terunofuji was veeeery close today.
Hoshoryu dealt with Shodai similar to how he did Asanoyama yesterday. Can he last?

And I see Aoiyama is back – with back covered in tape...


Bernd 05/17/2021 (Mon) 17:02:37 [Preview] No.43650 del
>>43649
>Takayasu vs Terunofuji was veeeery close today.
Just wanted to write that.
And Enho won finally.
>with back covered in tape.
Tape can fix everything.


Bernd 05/18/2021 (Tue) 18:42:52 [Preview] No.43664 del
Bushozan doing good. His stature is very similar to Takakeisho's.
Üra is marching on.
Enho third win! Hope he can rack up enough so he won't be effected too much.
I noticed Terotsuyoshi bringing down opponents by grabbing the front of the panty and pulling down.
Also Kaisei usually remaining there to check on the defeated and offer help. I wonder how they view this. Did someone telling him to stop they not children. What we might think as part of fair play and sportsmanship might be seen as an insult in other cultures.
Tobizaru failing hard this basho.
Takayasu deserved win.


Bernd 05/19/2021 (Wed) 17:57:37 [Preview] No.43693 del
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Bushozan lost but was an exciting bout with sudden twists.
Sadonoumi's supa-jump was awesome.
Enho won again int Makuuchi! Very well exploited the moving weight of Chiyomaru.
Terutsuyoshi again used that technique.
Too bad about Terunofuji's hairgrabbing. Lots of growling on behalf of the commentators.


Bernd 05/19/2021 (Wed) 18:47:42 [Preview] No.43694 del
>>43693
And Takayasu tried to play the pushing game with Takakeisho... you don't do that lol

Also, I hear Asanoyama is suspended for shamefur dispray (repeatedly visiting a hostess bar during basho despite quarantine orders, then lying about it when confronted the first time before additional proofs were submitted) – he's fucked.


Bernd 05/19/2021 (Wed) 19:36:18 [Preview] No.43698 del
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>>43694
>Takayasu
He really could have grab him. As it started it looked like it will go that way, but than flurry of slaps and he was out.
>Asanoyama
Maybe he isn't that disciplined as it seems in the dohyo.


Bernd 05/20/2021 (Thu) 09:43:34 [Preview] No.43715 del
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>>43698
Ok, here's updated, version #2, final, cut, corrected, cleared, finished, version #3, retouched, last reaction gif.


Bernd 05/20/2021 (Thu) 16:42:38 [Preview] No.43726 del
Today:
- Ura doing a one leg jump to win while Chiyonoumi walks out
- Enho getting betrayed by his knee again! Now in a different way.
- Tochinoshin now starting with henka on Hoshoryu... well, helped him get out of a knee grab. Bad fall for Hoshoryu, hope his back and/or head are okay.
- Tobizaru shows us why his name is Flying Monkey.
- Shodai keeps dodging, then finally connecting with a throw. Nice.
- Ichinojo as always – starts strong, then can't continue. I think he's too heavy and afraid of taking a nasty fall.
- Takayasu gets a free win.
- Terunofuji looking a bit more restrained today, but no less dominant.

Also: I've been seeing rumours that Ryuden's shamefur dispray for which he's sitting out is getting a side hoe (he's married) pregnant and trying to get her to get an abortion.
https://www.dailyshincho.jp/article/2021/05191659/


Bernd 05/20/2021 (Thu) 19:02:01 [Preview] No.43727 del
>>43726
Shohozan vs. Daishoho was a weird bout. Jumping at each other like the opening move, over and over. Then Daishoho got enough. I did not like this match but was interesting to see.
The Shodai vs. Takanosho match was spectacular for sure.
>Terunofuji looking a bit more restrained today
Considerable more, yeah. I think he himself wasn't glad with his performance of yesterday, he could have won it without resorting to that hair pulling.
I would note the Takakeisho bout as well. First as his head was pushed down but he just rebound, I think the situation shows my previous point that he doesn't lean forward too much, he maintains a good balance. Then Ichinojo just run out of space, I think he didn't notice he backed up that much.


Bernd 05/21/2021 (Fri) 16:42:55 [Preview] No.43732 del
Mono-ii-desu.
Deadlock after deadlock, that was it for the Tiny Man.
Terutsuyoshi and the kamikaze finish, falling on the heda.
Hahh, Endo's victory was really nice, jumping that frog outside of the dohyo.


Bernd 05/21/2021 (Fri) 19:15:11 [Preview] No.43733 del
>>43732
>Hahh, Endo's victory was really nice, jumping that frog outside of the dohyo.
Yeah, that dive lol.
Also that pretty much cemented Terunofuji yusho. Only way he loses it now is losing to both Endo tomorrow and Takakeisho on day 15, while they win their other matchups (Takakeisho vs Shodai, or Endo with ? Takayasu perhaps?) – leading to a playoff. But I don't see that happening.

Also, Shodai had an easy matchup to get his winning score to be safe from demotion from ozeki... he won't be facing Terunofuji at all. Maybe a bit unusual decision by schedule makers.

Abi also secured his 7-0 today in makushita.


Bernd 05/21/2021 (Fri) 21:57:31 [Preview] No.43735 del
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>>43715
Someone has fairly solid proofs of the foul play there.
Still won't shut up the western fans in the youtube comments, tho.
https://twitter.com/yukarii__nu/status/1394939250961829892


Bernd 05/22/2021 (Sat) 06:23:37 [Preview] No.43739 del
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>>43735
The footage on nattosumo's channel seemed conclusive. But fans will be fans.


Bernd 05/22/2021 (Sat) 16:09:15 [Preview] No.43741 del
Gonna stream soon.
And then on Sunday at 18:00 the closing day of the basho.


Bernd 05/22/2021 (Sat) 17:51:34 [Preview] No.43743 del
Shohozan vs Oho, long good struggle.
Kotoshoho vs Daishoho long but not good.
Fugg. Terunofuji vs Endo was tuff. Grat to Endo, he did good.
Last day will be exciting. One defeat and one victory are between Terunofuji and Takakeisho.


Bernd 05/22/2021 (Sat) 20:25:18 [Preview] No.43748 del
>>43741
think I can make it tomorrow yeah

>>43743
>Fugg. Terunofuji vs Endo was tuff. Grat to Endo, he did good.
It's really gonna be like I said here? >>43733
>Only way he loses it now is losing to both Endo tomorrow and Takakeisho on day 15, while they win their other matchups (Takakeisho vs Shodai, or Endo with ? Takayasu perhaps?)
(Endo has Shodai tomorrow)
Both Endo and Takakeisho still have chance to equalise with Terunofuji – which would lead into a 3-way-playoff, which goes like this: they pull straws for first duel, then winner faces the third one, and if winner loses that, it continues cyclically until someone wins both consecutive bouts.


Bernd 05/23/2021 (Sun) 06:29:40 [Preview] No.43749 del
>>43748
>It's really gonna be like I said here?
What were the chances.
Good show anyway.


Bernd 05/23/2021 (Sun) 15:24:15 [Preview] No.43760 del
Then at 6.


Bernd 05/23/2021 (Sun) 17:09:16 [Preview] No.43763 del
Very good. An exciting finish for this basho.
Takakeisho is just a bit boring to deserve a win. I think Terunofuji deserved this. Now he just need to learn to control himself better so no hair grabs occurs in the future.
Too bad for Enho. Hopefully his arm and ankle will heal up and will beat the crap out of everyone on next tournament.


Bernd 06/22/2021 (Tue) 20:51:01 [Preview] No.44142 del
The next tournament is to be held in Nagoya (as traditional for July), starting on Sunday 2 weeks (minus 2 days) from now.
Banzuke chart has been released; Wakatakakage and Meisei are for the first time in komusubi slots, and Ichiyamamoto was given a surprise promotion to the bottom of makuuchi. Ura also finally returns to makuuchi after injury in 2017. (In an interview he said that he eats McD's cheeseburgers for dirty bulking. Sponsorship deal?) Enho was dropped to J5, perhaps lenient after injuries ruined his May performance. Abi made it back to juryo after demolishing everyone in makushita where he got thanks to suspension for shamefur dispray last year. Kotokuzan (half-Filipino on his mother's side) also got his first promotion to juryo. Ishizaki, who won division 4 where he debuted (thanks to university sumo performance), is now in division 3 – someone to keep an eye on (he is swole af).
https://sumo.or.jp/EnHonbashoBanzuke/index/

There are some special procedures due to corona; instead of travelling to Nagoya together by train 2 weeks before the tournament as usual, they will be travelling stable by stable, after vaccination in Tokyo. (They're scheduled to receive a 2nd shot after the tournament is over, when they return to Tokyo.)

Takayasu needs 13 wins for promotion to ozeki (taking Asanoyama's spot); this is not likely to happen given that both Takakeisho and Terunofuji are now aiming for yokozuna and winning the title. But, this is also his last tournament with ex-yokozuna Kisenosato coaching in his stable; he is opening a new stable of his own where he wants to test some new ideas how to train – for example, he wants a more spacious stable (which is why he's moving out of Tokyo, to the suburbs), with two dohyo to train.
As well, Hakuho says he will compete, but that he will retire if he can't perform strongly. (And if he pulls out before the end, Takakeisho and Terunofuji won't get a bout scheduled against him...)

As for Asanoyama; he was given a 6 tournament suspension for not respecting quarantine; apparently he was going out with a journalist friend (who was also fired when the details came out), and the old stablemaster (who still owned and lived on the premises despite already passing the chief coach position to a younger guy) was also kicked out for repeatedly going outside and taking his trainees out as well. Very systematic breach of guidelines here, possibly this helped Asanoyama get off lightly and not just be called to retire (though he did, as customary, submit his retirement papers, which remained unopened). Ryuden was suspended for 3 tournaments.


Bernd 06/23/2021 (Wed) 11:03:27 [Preview] No.44158 del
>>44142
>old stablemaster was also kicked out for repeatedly going outside and taking his trainees out as well. Very systematic breach of guidelines here
Wonder what was their motivation.
>And if he pulls out before the end, Takakeisho and Terunofuji won't get a bout scheduled against him
Well, I'm almost hyped, but I fear we're gonna get disappointed.


Bernd 06/24/2021 (Thu) 22:29:25 [Preview] No.44202 del
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They used extra long needles (38mm) to vax the big guys.


Bernd 06/25/2021 (Fri) 06:14:32 [Preview] No.44203 del
>>44202
They have to jab through that thick layer of fat somehow.


Bernd 07/02/2021 (Fri) 09:45:20 [Preview] No.44269 del
Sunday sumo?


Bernd 07/04/2021 (Sun) 08:01:34 [Preview] No.44287 del
Fugg NattoSumo says he has problem with the source of the Makushita bouts.
https://tube.cadence.moe/watch?v=-fGIWLJMm_k

Anyway, today this month's basho starts.
If anyone wanna watch I'm gonna put the summaries on on our cytube channel, at 18:00 CET. Well, CES, because it's summer time.


Bernd 07/04/2021 (Sun) 16:37:55 [Preview] No.44288 del
Enho won. Seems to be healthy, and amybe gained a couple of kilos. I don't remember exactly his weight.
Nice win from Ura! Had to prove himself on the first occasion and he did.
Dat start of Chiyoshoma's bout. And then deadlock.
How Wakatakakage could lose that. Jesus.
Similarly to Ura, Hakuho had to win. Missed out many tournaments, and now he have to show who is the yokozuna.


Bernd 07/05/2021 (Mon) 09:25:41 [Preview] No.44294 del
Hey, I've been missing due to outdoors activities (hiking in Austria), sorry for no replies earlier.
I've noticed that Takayasu dropped out, something about straining his back in training – he really keeps getting bad luck. Oh well he might rejoin midway through like Aoiyama last time, so his rankings don't suffer too much.

>>44288
>Enho
And he's in red again! He wore a red mawashi when he first joined the top division, May 2019, and he had a good starting couple basho. Perhaps he switched back for better luck?
>Wakatakakage
Looks like Hokutofuji won that one purely on mind games? Two false starts, then he somehow managed to walk him into a trap when he looked like losing already.
>Hakuho
His right knee didn't look very solid during the dohyo-iri already. He couldn't overpower Meisei and Meisei then tried to win by overloading that right knee. Hakuho pulled himself out of that on his superior dexterity. But for how much longer can he keep going like that?


Bernd 07/05/2021 (Mon) 10:30:22 [Preview] No.44296 del
>>44294
How's the kangaroos treating you?
>Takayasu
Yeah, I was waiting his bout, but so many things I forgot about it.
>But for how much longer can he keep going like that?
Will see.

Gonna stream it today, in fact, I'm gonna try watching the recaps via that during the whole tournament. 18 CES.


Bernd 07/05/2021 (Mon) 16:51:56 [Preview] No.44302 del
Oh shit. Did Enho got a KO onto his chin when he fell?
Wakamotoharu shoved a big one.
Chiyoshoma had intense bout again.
Shodai and Tsuki* should have a longer match considering how many times the had to restart.
Wtf happened to Takakeisho? If his arm hurt he can't pushypushy.
Hakuho staring with sticking his forearm into Endo's neck instead of headbutting together. Nice.


Bernd 07/05/2021 (Mon) 21:42:17 [Preview] No.44305 del
>>44296


>>44302
>Enho
I think that was from one of the uppercuts, didn't look like he contacted ground with his jaw after – also he technically had to forfeit due to concussion (hence all the extra attention). Heard he is okay otherwise.
>Takakeisho
Looks bad. Not sure what exactly – reports say neck, but perhaps nerve compression? His right arm has gone completely limp.
>Hakuho
Yeah he doesn't like going face-first... so he uses elbow or slaps. He's very quick so he can do it with precision.
Notice also, he almost done the same hair pull mistake as Terunofuji last basho. But he lifts hand and pushes instead.

Onosho vs Myogiryu with acrobatics on that final throw. Nice.
Hoshoryu looking really good, his technique on throws is better and better each basho.


Bernd 07/05/2021 (Mon) 21:43:02 [Preview] No.44306 del
>>44296
forgot to answer the kangaroos question :^)
had a close encounter with a snek, made sure not to step on it


Bernd 07/05/2021 (Mon) 21:48:06 [Preview] No.44307 del
Also, Takayasu is returning, and he will be facing Ichinojo tomorrow (today?)


Bernd 07/06/2021 (Tue) 06:23:35 [Preview] No.44308 del
>>44305
>concussion
That comes with the KO.
>nerve compression
For a bit I thought it's his lower back.

>>44306
Maded a snek video meself the other day. Maybe I should post it.

>>44307
He did not get an easy one as a first fight.


Bernd 07/06/2021 (Tue) 16:57:11 [Preview] No.44315 del
Some breddy gud bouts today.
What we did not talk about:
Daishoho gave up fast.
I'm glad for Midorifuji. Big jump.
Bushozan vs Hatakikomi match was full of twists. Well, two, but still.
From what I read about techniques, the Takagenji vs Kotoshoho bout must be well regarded. Holding each other's mawashi and struggle.
Blody nose for Enho again. He needs to step up with his game.


Bernd 07/07/2021 (Wed) 17:09:31 [Preview] No.44326 del
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Abi won again, he is clean for now.
Noooo, Enho. He was unsure at the start. Too bad.
Wtf. Oshitaoshi sucked balls in this one. He was schooled.
Ishiura won an intense bout. Started with pushipushi, but he grabbed his opponent's panty quick.
Ura seems to be short. Did not notice before, maybe because he is taller than Enho.
Haha, Kaisei vs Tochinoshin. Was a big fall, the arena shook.
Shimanoumi won good.
Wtf, the piano.
Wakatakage managed a slap right onto the point of the chin of his opponent. I think that was the firs step to victory.
Teru pushed one too much at the end. He tends to do that. I don't like it, but maybe it can be used as some personality trait or something.
Takanosho almost got Hakuho. I like Hakuho smiling that much.

Tried to figure out where the mystery lady sits. Couple of women in tradition clothing could have been her, because I don't see anyone resembling in casual plain clothes.
First I thought the one on pic 1, but she moves too much, and doesn't clap. Maybe the second in light kimono. I noticed a third potential suspect, but she claps too vehemently. Well, more days coming, so a successful ID is possible.


Bernd 07/07/2021 (Wed) 20:38:55 [Preview] No.44329 del
>>44326
What was Akua doing though? He just fell back and banged his head quite a bit falling off the dohyo.
Ichinojo is looking a bit more determined this basho...
Hakuho is enjoying it!

>Tried to figure out where the mystery lady sits. Couple of women in tradition clothing could have been her, because I don't see anyone resembling in casual plain clothes.
>First I thought the one on pic 1, but she moves too much, and doesn't clap. Maybe the second in light kimono. I noticed a third potential suspect, but she claps too vehemently. Well, more days coming, so a successful ID is possible.
Good question – she's probably stayed in Tokyo. Remember we're in Nagoya this tournament


Bernd 07/08/2021 (Thu) 06:02:42 [Preview] No.44332 del
>>44329
>Akua
He zurücked, then tripped and fell.
>Hakuho is enjoying it!
Seems so.


Bernd 07/08/2021 (Thu) 13:02:52 [Preview] No.44333 del
Abi keeps going on.
Mitoryu should have seen that one coming vs Enho!
Tochinoshin tries the same as Enho. Looks pathetic when he does it tbh.
Okinoumi fugged up vs Kiribayama.
A lot of running around in Wakatakakage vs. Daieisho.
Endo quit? Didn't notice him getting injured vs Takayasu yesterday.
Takayasu not so good today vs Meisei. Started strong but Meisei got better position and Takayasu had no answer.
Terunofuji dominant as always.
Shodai outsmarted again. Tobizaru took a while to take him out of bounds but he was in control at all times. I don't think Shodai can keep ozeki rank like that, and don't think he will be helped by lenient matchmaking this time either.
Ichinojo looked nervous, two false starts! He's too heavy for Hakuho to just overpower but he didn't show much resistance when pushed back either. Looked a bit overwhelming but on replay it is noticeable how masterfully he got rid of Ichinojo's grip before pushing back. Coordinated move of hips + right arm pushing back. After that Ichinojo had no grip and got lost.


Bernd 07/08/2021 (Thu) 13:07:31 [Preview] No.44334 del
>>44333
Oh fugg spoilers!
Well gonna read after I watched it.


Bernd 07/08/2021 (Thu) 16:46:04 [Preview] No.44337 del
>>44329
Maybe she isn't a wife of a rikishi after all. Or still can be they don't have to travel with their lords and commanders.

>>44333
>Abi
With great efficiency.
Bushozan - right onto the butt.
Azumaryu vs. Kotoshoho was a great panty-yanking match.
>Enho
He got the rythm just perfect. It's nicer when he grapples his opponents and throws them over his shoulder. Ideally. I think he chose to do this to mix up his game.
Fugg, Yutakayama match was intense.
Haha, Tsurugisho was frogge now.
Ura is among the big boys now. He gets real challanges finally.
>Tochinoshin
Expectations are different from a giant.
>Okinoumi
He had one job, not to put his feet down. He has to practice floating.
Onosho just run forward with Chiyotairyu. Kinda funny.
Wakatakakage bouts tend do be like that. He misjudged the size of the ring.
Yeah, Ichinojo looked nervous he also looks like a granny. Hakuho took him different at the start, no forearm into the neck move this time.


Bernd 07/09/2021 (Fri) 18:02:19 [Preview] No.44349 del
Fugg, poor Enho. Azumaryu could just reach and grab his leg, like a child. But he was polite when he asked the elder(?) if everythingi s okay after he finished that roll.
Too bad for Hakuyozan. Wonder if it's gonna have long term effect.
Üra uses very little salt. He had good momentum and pushed forward hard. I wonder if someone quicker could have exploited this.
Tokushoryu frogge now.
To be honest Terutsuyoshi won mostly because of his rebound from his opponent.
Kaisei yorikirimashta
Tobizaru managed to salvage that with the famous crane technique.
Wakatakakage is enthusiastic but missing a good balance, a good "grounding", he is like a flea.
I liked Takayasu's bout. Now he has a good footing. He is on the dohyo and not above it in contrast.
Oh, I feel sorry for Ichinojo. He would have deserved a longer match.
Hakuho always looks at his opponents like a strict dad onto his disorderly kids or something. All of his bouts are won differently. Fun.


Bernd 07/10/2021 (Sat) 17:08:32 [Preview] No.44356 del
Abi absolutely overpowered Daishomaru.
Relatively short armed guys, especially with the shape of Takakeisho and Bushozan, don't even have much choice, but to master pushipushi technique.
Enho gets banged up breddy well.
Kyokutaisei kept coming back but he had no power to turn the bout over, forced to defend continuously.
Üra just pushed forward again. It was enough.
Ishiura grabbed the asscrack.
Small guys, like Enho, Midorifuji, Terutsuyoshi tend to start very carefully. Just small charge, rather a tiny jump forward. I really wanna watch a bout them pitted against each other.
Srsly. Ichinojo looks like someone's granma.
Hakuho vs Tobizaru started well. Laffed a bit. Twice. Three times. Like five times. Tobizaru looked like he's trying to touch fire. Then went in and lost like a boy. My sympathies. I kinda like him better and will cheer for him in the future.


Bernd 07/11/2021 (Sun) 16:43:08 [Preview] No.44362 del
Abi should have taken Kaisho head on. Kaisho was ready not to fall for some sidestep trick, and then Abi lost good footing after failed to move his opponent. Food for thought for Abi. It was an interesting bout.
Some bouts were missing. Oh well.
Enho clearly lost his mojo.
Big slap from Ishiura. Couldn't see where it sit, but both on jaw and on ear can be disorienting.
Okinoumi did well, spinning over him by the panty.
Wakatakakage slipped! And then Ichinojo just needed to put his weight on.
Considering his position Daiesho does very badly this basho.
Tobizaru held himself well, until Teru pushed his head down.
Kotoeko did not seem to be impressed at the face off. Is it double luck if a yokozuna falls upon you?


Bernd 07/12/2021 (Mon) 19:02:41 [Preview] No.44383 del
Yago vs Midorifuji, long long bout. At one point Midori thought Yago will be out, he just have to slap him. Lel.
Two Mono-II during Abi's match!
Ichiyamamoto doing good, 7-2. Although it was a struggle.
Random piano again. Wtf. I don't get it.
Tobizaru does not get easy opponents. I think it's trend that if a bout between noticeably different size rikishis hangs in a deadlock the tinier guy is gonna lose.
Teru is getting gentler. Now he doesn't give that last push, maybe he got a talk to.


Bernd 07/12/2021 (Mon) 19:03:00 [Preview] No.44384 del
So uh. Catching up now.

I'm fairly sure Ichinojo surrendered his bout to Terunofuji. They knew each other from before they came to Japan, etc etc
Hakuho vs Tobizaru, oh wow. Tobizaru had an idea to get Hakuho to overextend so he can pull and get around, Hakuho didn't fall for it. Not surprising, he trains with Enho, he must have tried similars before.
Enho.... F. Also bad luck for Hakuyozan. And Abi's streak was finally broken!

>>44337
I think I saw her in the crowd, to the right side of camera view, on weekend bouts.

Now for today's...


Bernd 07/13/2021 (Tue) 07:55:00 [Preview] No.44386 del
>>44384
>Ichinojo surrendered his bout
Does that happen sometimes? What I noticed he grabbed with his left toward the panty but failed and then his arm just hanged there he did not try else. And he did not much more than put his weight onto Teru.
Btw as I'm watching Hakuho's matches, Teru is good and strong, but nowhere as technical as the yokozuna. No doubt he is a top ozeki, but is he good enough to step above?


Bernd 07/13/2021 (Tue) 16:52:09 [Preview] No.44394 del
Kaisho also doing well.
Was Kaisei grabbing Kagayaki's tit for a while?
Terutsuyoshi's surprise move was failed (was a long shot anyway?), but left no room for recover.
Looked at Ichinojo's results, he was beaten by Hakuho, Teru, and Takayasu. Well, yeah.
Earlier made comparison between Takayasu and Wakatakakage. Now the latter held way better, and Takayasu had a bad step at one point.
Wtf. Teru had very easy job again. What the fuck. He was let win again? Almost feels like an insult. If he did not know about it, then to him as well, but for us too. Shame. I dunno what's going on. I really wanna know what the commentators was talking about.


Bernd 07/13/2021 (Tue) 21:07:02 [Preview] No.44403 del
>>44386
There used to be plenty of matchfixing (the March 2011 tournament >>32381 was cancelled because the investigation just started and couldn't be finished before the tournament), and iirc some ex-rikishi who fell out with the org claimed as many as half of the matches in the 90s were rigged – but there hasn't been any indications that this is still ongoing. Well except angry Japanese fans accusing Mongols of doing it when they don't like what they see.

>>44394
>Was Kaisei grabbing Kagayaki's tit for a while?
it's allowed...
>Wtf. Teru
Looked like a matta? Gyoji should've called it, Chiyotairyu stands up before Terunofuji touches, and, perplexed, tries to stop, but Terunofuji just goes all-in.

Good bout between Hoshoryu and Tobizaru too.
Kotonowaka is at 8-2 from M11.
Ichiyamamoto is 7-3, I'd say judges unexpectedly promoting him from juryo was a good call.

Also I remembered what that Tobizaru vs. Hakuho bout reminded me of. Senegalese wrestling. It's fairly similar to sumo, differences being: no tachiai, sand instead of clay (and larger area), hands and knees allowed to touch ground, and punches legal. Well, with all the slaps and shoves we've seen this tournament (Takagenji vs Enho, and Takakento yesterday), there's not that much difference in this aspect, they just have to keep hand open in sumo. Lack of tachiai means they have to feel each other from distance before going in. And it looks kinda like what Tobizaru was doing.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=0B8Xpk0cAs8 [Embed]


Bernd 07/14/2021 (Wed) 08:18:21 [Preview] No.44412 del
>>44403
>matchfixing
I see. I wonder if yakuza ever tried to profit from it. I'm not sure how much betting is a thing there.
>Looked like a matta?
Could be very well. Rewatched it, and Chiyotairyu looked like straightening up as if waiting the call, because he started out a moment before, Teru being late for a half breath. So he might have thought he did a false start. Maybe since tricking the other to make a bad move is allowed, could be the judges thought it's ok.
Also Chiyotairyu isn't doing very well on this tournament, most likely a rematch wouldn have changed anything.
>Hoshoryu and Tobizaru
It was a great move how Hoshoryu gained back his balance, Tobizaru missed slapping and pushing him in the last move, and with shoving Tobizaru out, he could save himself.
>Senegalese wrestling
It does look similar.


Bernd 07/14/2021 (Wed) 17:04:47 [Preview] No.44413 del
Kaisho vs Mitoryu - someone had to win.
Tohakuryu pulling Midori's hair wasn't nice. Was uglier than Teru's foul.
Abi did good however, slapping his face, then change to a push onto the chest.
Yutakamaya run out of luck this time.
Ishiura's winning streak status = broken. Terutsuyoshi doing well against similarly sized opponents I think.
Ura's arms were held down well. Coming out of that how he did was awesome.
Hoshoryu out-hobbled Shodai. When they clinched their legs, he already had the upper hand by having literally the upper hand in panty grabbing, forcing Shodai into an uncomfortable position. Me thinks.


Bernd 07/15/2021 (Thu) 17:26:57 [Preview] No.44423 del
>>32381
Thats some /x/ tier conspiracy shit right there slovborg


Bernd 07/15/2021 (Thu) 17:30:53 [Preview] No.44424 del
Yutakayama grabbed Mitoryu panty well during deadlock but meant little. He stood balanced.
Chiyonoo advanced from Juryo recently? Has something to do in Makuuchi. Returned well after his rebound after faceoff.
Hehe, salt. Did well with the tackling game.
Takayasu really wanted to reach Kiribayama's panty to get a good grip from the inside. I think forcing that move was his mistake. He concentrated too much on that, and failed to change when he should have.
Hakuho finished it more elegantly then Terunofuji.


Bernd 07/15/2021 (Thu) 21:20:35 [Preview] No.44426 del
Hidenoumi avoided that throw at the edge from Hoshoryu very well. They're starting to counter his throws.
Takayasu vs. Kiribayama, that was long and technical. But alas Takayasu choked yet again.
Terunofuji vs. Meisei staredown! And you can see reactions from Hakuho. Wonder what he has ready for Terunofuji, he rehearses a lot in preparation.

So, Hakuho and Terunofuji are heading into the last 3 days both on 12-0.
They will almost certainly be pitted against Takayasu and Shodai next 2 days, and then against each other.


Bernd 07/16/2021 (Fri) 07:16:17 [Preview] No.44427 del
>>44426
>But alas Takayasu choked yet again.
Kiribayama found the moment when he could push forward. Was Takayasu worn down enough to expose his side like that?


Bernd 07/16/2021 (Fri) 16:58:47 [Preview] No.44432 del
I'm glad for Enho.
And Hoshoryu has much potential.
Teru almost got beaten.
Hakuho did a short job on Takayasu.
I think on Sunday Hakuho will defeat Terunofuji, he could surprise Teru with ease.


Bernd 07/17/2021 (Sat) 20:38:40 [Preview] No.44448 del
I guess today's bouts deserve a short comment.
Especially Hakuho slapping Shodai around. Was a bit embarrassing and by the end it seemed he toyed with him, which should be below his stature (was there a message hidden in that for Terunofuji who watched the bout?). The first slap right after the tachi-ai - well actually the charge was kinda left out from the initial charge - I did not notice first, was quite quick, and the events perplexed me a bit.
Too bad for Enho. I hope he'll get his act together till next basho.


Bernd 07/18/2021 (Sun) 10:34:07 [Preview] No.44451 del
Hey – I just realised, today's also Tour de France finals (l'arrivée sur les Champs-Elysées) and at the usual time I'd be watching live (finish is at sunset) – can we make it an hour earlier, at 17h?

also please no spoilers if anyone already watched or checked results :3


Bernd 07/18/2021 (Sun) 10:40:20 [Preview] No.44453 del
>>44451
17? Sure.
>also please no spoilers if anyone already watched or checked results :3
Yeah, every day I put a notice onto the IRC channel (bridged to discord and telegram), and everyone just floods the chat with spoilers. Outrageous.


Bernd 07/18/2021 (Sun) 17:18:39 [Preview] No.44454 del
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Hakuho's technical superiority appeared breddy well. I would have liked Terunofuji to win, but as I suspected he did not (in theory he will be yokozuna on 21st due to his winning streak, and his great return after he got relegated).
There were a couple notable bouts. Abi expected win turned into a very quick loss.
One of our fav Ura after suffering a couple of slaps from Chiyoshoma, gained the initiative and forced his opponent out.
Tobizaru threw his opponent out.
Like Wakatakakage, who did it more spectacularly from a position that looked like a sure defeat.


Bernd 07/19/2021 (Mon) 18:31:54 [Preview] No.44472 del
Japanese media report that Terunofuji's promotion to yokozuna has been decided and now we're just waiting for the formalities.
Congrats to the 73rd yokozuna!
https://www.nikkansports.com/battle/sumo/news/202107180000496.html


Bernd 07/19/2021 (Mon) 18:54:34 [Preview] No.44474 del
>>44472
They picked that image well for that article, kek. Humbling.


Bernd 07/19/2021 (Mon) 19:09:40 [Preview] No.44475 del
>>44472
I threw that into Google translate. Results were hilarious.


Bernd 07/20/2021 (Tue) 22:04:55 [Preview] No.44489 del
After slapping Enho on day 2... Takagenji is now under police investigation for smoking weed.
https://www.nippon.com/en/news/yjj2021072000698/sumo-wrestler-found-using-cannabis.html

>>44475
They always are. Here's the one about Takagenji:
https://www.nikkansports.com/battle/sumo/news/202107200000489.html


Bernd 07/21/2021 (Wed) 11:20:53 [Preview] No.44501 del
>>44489
That's what you get slapping Enho. The curse gets to you.
>CBD oil
Sounds plausible. And not, because they could know that could result in positive drug test. So my money is on the pot smoking.
>Yasujin is not using cannabis" on the 17th day of the 14th day
Some nuggets for sure.


Bernd 07/27/2021 (Tue) 21:25:34 [Preview] No.44585 del
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He has the rope now.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=AUTeaD9Ascw [Embed]

His oyakata – ex-yokozuna Asahifuji – also received a red rope for his 60th birthday, when it's customary for yokozuna to make their last dohyo-iri.
60 years is the full length of the Chinese zodiac cycle (5 elements and 12 animals), so on the 60th birthday in Japan you celebrate kanreki, which is in a way understood as rebirth – being born into next cycle of life. Customarily red colour is worn on this day, so the rope is also red instead of white.


Bernd 07/28/2021 (Wed) 14:19:33 [Preview] No.44592 del
>>44585
Hey they make that thick rope at that place. Breddy cool.
I think this is the appointment ceremony, or how it is called:
https://tube.cadence.moe/watch?v=DVS-Kb8_Vsw
https://youtube.com/watch?v=DVS-Kb8_Vsw [Embed]


Bernd 07/28/2021 (Wed) 22:25:06 [Preview] No.44593 del
>>44592
Not sure how it's called.

Note: when accepting the title, the newly appointed yokozuna makes a personalised vow (that he has prepared with oyakata).
>不動心を心がけ、横綱の品格、力量の向上に努めます。
I trieded translating (google translate is wonky so I had to break down the grammar a bit)
>Keeping my heart steadfast, I will strive to improve my strength and dignity as a yokozuna.
Note: Hakuho was previously scolded for shamefur dispray and lack of yokozuna dignity on last two days, for overdoing the slaps vs Terunofuji but especially for stepping that far back with Shodai and avoiding full contact.


Bernd 07/29/2021 (Thu) 06:23:49 [Preview] No.44596 del
>>44593
>but especially for stepping that far back with Shodai
It did really seem like he was toying with him.


Bernd 08/01/2021 (Sun) 15:59:50 [Preview] No.44641 del
Hakuho VS Terunofuji - All Bouts Compilation
Big Battles. Quite a few deadlock.
Hakuho can start lightning fast.
2016 July, what happened there?
https://tube.cadence.moe/watch?v=HevM1b2VvN4
https://youtube.com/watch?v=HevM1b2VvN4 [Embed]


Bernd 08/26/2021 (Thu) 16:24:55 [Preview] No.44838 del
I think next basho must coming soon.


Bernd 09/01/2021 (Wed) 22:06:15 [Preview] No.44880 del
>>44838
SlovBerg and you need to act as referees for the next match tbh


Bernd 09/05/2021 (Sun) 16:12:43 [Preview] No.44923 del
>>44880
No. I'm just at the beginning of noticing things, what techniques they use and such.
Also they have like over 9000 finishing moves, I can barely can tell 2. Or even not at all.


Bernd 09/05/2021 (Sun) 16:22:32 [Preview] No.44924 del
Btw Aki basho is staring on September 12 (next Sunday).
Now with two yokozunas again.
Takayasu fell back to Komusubi, too bad.
Enho is still in Juryo middle ranks. He needs to work harder.


Bernd 09/09/2021 (Thu) 21:58:50 [Preview] No.44957 del
Man I'm EXTREMELY busy right now, hope I can get my shit together.

Hakkeyoi!


Bernd 09/12/2021 (Sun) 15:39:43 [Preview] No.44983 del
Startin the stream in 20.
https://cytu.be/r/endcorner


Bernd 09/12/2021 (Sun) 16:47:21 [Preview] No.44984 del
Whole Miyagino stable is out due to covid, no Hakuho and Enho.
Ichiyamamoto is marching up and further up at every tournament, maybe it will be worth to follow his performance this basho.
I'm glad for Tobizaru, he did good against that giant.
Ura frequently starts out very carefully. Too bad his initiative to break the deadlock turned against him.
That Chiyoshoma bout! That was fun. And he keeps the habit of slapping.
Hokutofuji was full of energy.
Hoshoryu beat Shodai nicely and with good elan.
Teru vs Ichinojo. Their last bout was questionable. Teru won again with relative ease. I'd expect more from Ichinojo, but ofc it can't be easy against Terunofuji.


Bernd 09/13/2021 (Mon) 16:57:03 [Preview] No.44988 del
Kotoshoho had a good grab on the panty.
Mitoryu vs. Daiamami - great struggle!
Ura started out weird again. I think Terutsuyoshi's routine defeated him.
Ichinojo is a dude hard to defeat. And it was a slow defeat. But was a defeat.
I liek Hokutofuji's theatrics. Good win too.
Takakeisho second defeat. This basho ain't started good for him. Haven't he recovered fully yet?
Hoshoryu kept himself well for a bit.


Bernd 09/15/2021 (Wed) 17:44:26 [Preview] No.44996 del
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I noticed something at certain rishikis, notably Ura, Tobizaru, and to some lesser extent in Wakatakakage's style, or the manner how they fight. All are a bit different ofc. Neither are bad but they seem frequently uncertain, they don't seem to practice a particular style of sumo wrestling - neither the pushi-pushi, or the various panty-grabbing styles (I mean comparatively to other rishikis) - they seem more reactive to the opponent, they don't grab the initiative and force their style on the other. They try to pull various stunts and can change styles quick, but they aren't that good, so it's more of a luck. At the initial charge, the tachi-ai they frequently take it cautiously. They are kinda small.

Japan Times has basho reports:
https://www.japantimes.co.jp/sports/basho-reports/


Bernd 09/16/2021 (Thu) 19:04:50 [Preview] No.45012 del
Churanoumi vs Nishikigi started out exciting, but then it led to a stalemate. Nishikigi eventually won that one.
Abi got another win.
Akua continues with the flashy throws.
Hidenoumi "wins by ushiromotare" (backward lean out), wew
Ura BODY SLAM!!!! Well, kinda.
Hokutofuji couldn't show up because Terunofuji rekt him too hard yesterday.
Hoshoryu is sick and thus gifted Takayasu a much-needed win.
Meisei overcommitted and gave Ichinojo a chance to slap him down.
Mitakeumi continues with another win. But last time he was 8-7 so he will likely still be short of an ozeki run.
Kotonowaka is no match for Takakeisho's pushy-pushy.
Shodai overpowered Wakatakakage massively at tachi-ai, he lost footing completely.
Great effort from Kiribayama vs Terunofuji. He got in better position but it still wasn't enough.

>>44996
>They try to pull various stunts and can change styles quick, but they aren't that good, so it's more of a luck.
Ring awareness is a skill in itself.
But yes they have defensive style, purists don't like that generally. But I'd say ring awareness is a skill itself...


Bernd 09/16/2021 (Thu) 19:05:49 [Preview] No.45013 del
Hon hon hon! I'm in France now, apparently.


Bernd 09/16/2021 (Thu) 19:06:55 [Preview] No.45014 del
Chiyonokuni's is on a winning streak. Let's see how long it will last.
Kotoeko lost by just a quick little step.
Ura! Nice throw! Very nice. Well, more like a lift, but, yeah.
Too bad for Hokutofuji.
Takayasu deserves a good by the book win.
Wakatakakage's defeat was ugly. Not sure what happened, if he made a mistake.
Kiribayama held himself well. Did Teru pushed him just a bit too far on purpose? I couldn't recognize anger in Teru, but he has a bit temper.


Bernd 09/16/2021 (Thu) 19:10:01 [Preview] No.45015 del
>>45012
Heh, just watched.
Finally I gave up and just covered the stuff for tomorrow.
>Abi got another win.
He needed it.
>but it still wasn't enough.
Run out of steam, and couldn't counter the hug.


Bernd 09/18/2021 (Sat) 16:34:23 [Preview] No.45045 del
Azomaryu's first win, quite quick. Great push on the back of the neck of Takakento.
Wakatohomaru's pushing techique looks something that should be hard on the wrist.
Endo vs. Chiyonokumi! Spectacular!
Ura got bent half. Backwards.
Tobizaru vs. Takarafuji. Got a couple of surprise moments. No shame for Tobizaru.
Kiribayama showed some break dance skills.
Takayesss!
Takakeisho seems eager to fix his score. Btw his match was before Shodai's. Why the change? They can slide down in the list based on the performance during basho?


Bernd 09/19/2021 (Sun) 00:12:33 [Preview] No.45048 del
>>44983
ach missed the stream bernd. Sorries


Dutch bernd Bernd 09/19/2021 (Sun) 00:13:39 [Preview] No.45049 del
>>45048
And now I'm Serbian

r8


Bernd 09/19/2021 (Sun) 07:50:55 [Preview] No.45056 del
>>45048
I stream every day, same time 18 Central Euro (Summer) Time.

>>45049
You met Danebernd there?


Bernd 09/20/2021 (Mon) 16:52:37 [Preview] No.45065 del
Nishikifuji got his 7th win. Quite a few with same performance on the leaderboard.
Abi vs Akua, funny ending.
Took a bit of time for Chiyomaru, but he had the upper hand during the whole bout.
Ura was tricked to fall? Is it a move to push someone's heda up, he will push down, then suddenly let him go?
Takarafuji vs. Kotonowaka: the battle of balance.
Hoshoryu Wakatakakage, that was awesome.
Yeah, Ichinojo lacks agilita, and also hard for him to stop his own weight when gets pushed. He is up in the rankings because he is very big, and many rishikis can't do much against that I think.
Kiribayama did good.
Teru's first loss. Couldn't have a hold on Daieisho, who did good with his pushes.


Bernd 09/21/2021 (Tue) 16:57:32 [Preview] No.45077 del
Nikishifuji won again. Hakuyozan is a bigger guy, but performs bad this basho.
Shohozan got blodied. A bloody victory.
Chiyonokuni vs Hideonumi was a good struggle.
Frogge leap was very popular on this day.
Ura got hold well in Teru's panty, that's for sure. Not giving up.


Bernd 09/22/2021 (Wed) 16:50:02 [Preview] No.45084 del
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Ura holds his fingers weird. Liek a crab.
Winning move: grabbing the other by the neck/chin, pushing his head up, bending the opponent backward, and threading forward with the feet.
I think Teru shoved Takayas with more force than necessary. I think he's getting frustrated a bit. Long bouts with much struggle, it ain't going smooth.


Bernd 09/24/2021 (Fri) 20:15:37 [Preview] No.45095 del
>>38819
>Volcanoes and tsunamis almost never happen.

really now?

Here is a picture of my sumo hero. Do you recognize him?

Sadly no

>t. unknower of Japan


Dutch bernd Bernd 09/24/2021 (Fri) 20:17:29 [Preview] No.45096 del
>>45095
And now I'm Turkish again FML

>>45056
>I stream every day, same time 18 Central Euro (Summer) Time.

You should announce such things bernd *esp on Hungarian IBs. Cuz most people don't know about it

>You met Danebernd there?

No clue where he moved to. Wasn't he going to be here again one day?


Bernd 09/26/2021 (Sun) 17:01:58 [Preview] No.45106 del
Terunofuji won the yusho (championship), with a well 13-2 balance. His last match was against Shodai, who could do little, Teru was like Fuji, standing well on the ground, wide and high.
I think Hoshoryu was influenced by his illness much, maybe he'll do better on next basho. And hopefully we'll see Enho then again.
Congrats to Abi ofc.


Bernd 09/27/2021 (Mon) 10:08:51 [Preview] No.45109 del
HAKUHO RETIRED


Bernd 09/27/2021 (Mon) 10:57:35 [Preview] No.45110 del
>>45109
Maybe they found Terunofuji's performance satisfactory for now?
His previous basho was flawless. It is a good end, no matter he had to sit out this one (this wasn't his fault anyway).
I did not follow his career - since I only watch sumo on your influence -, and only seen his performance during the Nagoya tournament, so I can't tell much. But this isn't a necrology anyway. I assume he gets a position among the elders, and do... what's he gonna do now?
They in need of another yokozuna. Who's gonna be? I don't see Shodai or Takakeisho the best person for the job. Although the latter is ozeki for a while now.


Bernd 09/27/2021 (Mon) 14:17:52 [Preview] No.45111 del
>>45110
It was expected that Hakuho would get a position among the elders for life solely on his yokozuna record (like previously Taiho, Kitanoumi and Takanohana – otherwise yokozuna get temporary 5 year and ozeki 3 year position without elder stock) – but the yokozuna committee recently suggested the practice should be discontinued, which was a bit controversial since it came just in time for Hakuho's expected retirement. In practice this doesn't mean much (Hakuho already called dibs on Magaki elder stock), except that he will not be able to open a Hakuho stable.
Now, the current Miyagino-oyakata, where Hakuho trained, is 64 himself so he's expected to retire soon, perhaps already next year (cap is 65, but can be extended to 70 if approved by a board). So the most likely scenario is that Hakuho obtains the Magaki elder stock first, then inherits Miyagino stock whenever the current stablemaster retires, and (it was already rumoured before) passes Magaki stock to Terunofuji. (Kakuryu I think is expecting to get another one. He is currently on the 5 year temporary membership.)
Otherwise, Hakuho has been very active in promotion of sumo, he ran a yearly children's tournament for example, but the organisation (as you have probably noticed) doesn't like him that much – he's a bit too ambitious... It's possible some will try to set him up a scandal to dishonourably retire him as an elder like what happened to Takatoriki, who was kicked for shamefur dispray of gambling and then borrowing money when he got broke.

I think we first need to see who can make it to ozeki first...
I'd love to see Endo finally getting his shit together, he came from university sumo as a double champion and was hyped by the media, but his performances looked like he's not even trying most of the time. But we've seen him do well in May and September, though sitting out most of July due to injury.
Hoshoryu has a pedigree (his uncle being Asashoryu, before that his family was also involved in bökh in Mongolia), he's doing quite well, and is still young, has room for improvement. I certainly see him getting to ozeki in 2 years, perhaps earlier.
Wakatakakage, also likely future ozeki imo.
Then there's Hokuseiho. If he can get strong and doesn't injure himself, he's almost sure to become ozeki. But it's always a risk with very tall guys. He fucks up his back and he'll end up like Ichinojo.

As for the current and ex ozeki:
Asanoyama isn't yokozuna material, imo, but I can see him getting back to ozeki.
Takakeisho, it depends, his pushy pushy game is too strong, but his arms are too short and anyone who can get close to him will win on the belt. Likely the one thing that will prevent him from yokozuna.
Shodai, well. He's strong, but he gets tricked too easily.
Also, Takayasu, he was an ozeki 2 years ago, but I think his time is up.

From those I think Hoshoryu has best shots at next yokozuna. Come on Japan get your shit together, it's Mongol after Mongol.


Bernd 09/27/2021 (Mon) 17:05:53 [Preview] No.45114 del
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>>45111
>yokozuna committee recently suggested the practice should be discontinued
Weird coincidence.

I read this:
https://www.japantimes.co.jp/sports/2021/09/27/sumo/hakuho-sumo-retire/
>pro sumo at 15
With his quick rise I can imagine he was liek Superman. That can bolster ego somewhat for sure.
The article also says he is already the owner of "elder name stock". Btw what "stock" means exactly in this context?

Here's some words from Teru:
https://www.japantimes.co.jp/sports/2021/09/27/sumo/terunofuji-yokozuna-win/


Bernd 09/27/2021 (Mon) 17:26:54 [Preview] No.45115 del
>>45114
Consider the Sumo Association as a corporation, which has 105 shares. (Each of them comes with a custom name.) Those shares however can only be acquired by ex-osumosan whose careers were noticeable enough (san'yaku rank, or 20+ tournaments in makuuchi, or 30+ tournaments in juyro or makuuchi.) Once you pass those conditions, you can trade, borrow, etc. those.
It is translated as "stock" simply because the word, 株, is also used for the capitalist meaning. But the word can also mean a tree stump. Perhaps "stake" would be the most fitting translation, conferring both the literal wooden meaning and the concept of holding stake. (Though "stock" also seems to have had the original meaning of a tree stump.)


Bernd 09/27/2021 (Mon) 17:37:45 [Preview] No.45116 del
>>45115
How that acquiring happens? They pay for it? Or they have to ask and convince the other shareholders to get one?


Bernd 09/27/2021 (Mon) 18:32:04 [Preview] No.45117 del
>>45116
Until about 10 years ago (during the gambling scandal and matchfixing scandal) yes, the practice was to pay for it. And in theory they could even be bought by an outsider who'd then lend it to their favourite wrestlers.
Now, I honestly have no idea how it happens (and probably nobody has, except the insiders) – in theory, they're granted by the association, but the association only approves the deals they make behind closed doors. Hakuho having "acquired" Magaki stock only involves apparently everyone having agreed that he has the right to it after he called dibs a couple months ago. I imagine they're also still traded for money, given that everyone who has bought their share before 2011 paid for it, and they'd be expected to get nothing in return – it's just not officially noted.


Bernd 09/28/2021 (Tue) 20:07:08 [Preview] No.45125 del
Do ethnic Japanese still compete in top sumo? Aren't they all Mongols?
Do the mongol sumotoris come from Mongolia or are they an ethnic subgroup of japanese citizens?
If from Mongolia: do they speak correct japanese? Do they return to Mongolia or stay in Japan? If they stay, do they take ethnic Japanese wives?


Bernd 09/28/2021 (Tue) 20:30:51 [Preview] No.45128 del
>>45125
>Do ethnic Japanese still compete in top sumo?
No. Those were secretly replaced entirely by Hungarians already.
>Aren't they all Mongols?
One stable can only have one foreign rikishi. All the others are Japanese. Maybe Slov wrote this itt, maybe when we were talking on cytube, but this rule was made to prevent foreigners collaborating in the background. Still some swindle is suspected.
There are some other nationalities sporadically. In Makuuchi there's a Br, a Gogi, and a Burglar these days. One Ukro dude in Makushita. Actually at least one of them is half-Jap.
>Do the mongol sumotoris come from Mongolia or are they an ethnic subgroup of japanese citizens?
The rikishis I saw this year they all were born in Mongolia, me thinks.
>If from Mongolia: do they speak correct japanese?
Hard to tell, they ain't talking much. I assume learning it well is among the higher expectations. I think I heard parts of interviews with Mongol wrestler like twice. Both were concise, and kinda slow to formulate thoughts. Since Japanese is easy to pronounce for every non-Anglo they probably don't have much of an accent, to my ear they have none.
>Do they return to Mongolia or stay in Japan?
Depends. With bringing the results they can stay, and I think one of their goals is to stay.
>do they take ethnic Japanese wives?
Depends. Some sure, others maybe not. You could check wikipee for this, many rikishis have a page, and tell us about your findings. Whom prefer what, and the ratio, and such.


Bernd 09/28/2021 (Tue) 20:58:03 [Preview] No.45129 del
>>45128
Oh yeah, and with the regulation they force the foreigners to talk Japanese and not just create their own little cliques, and this helps them to assimilate.


Bernd 09/28/2021 (Tue) 22:29:30 [Preview] No.45130 del
>>45125
>Do ethnic Japanese still compete in top sumo? Aren't they all Mongols?
I mean, they do, but they have acquired a tendency to sneak out and visit hostess bars, after which they get suspended for a number of tournaments for shamefur dispray. Only Mongols are upstanding sumotori with required hinkaku.
>Do the mongol sumotoris come from Mongolia or are they an ethnic subgroup of japanese citizens?
Most of them come from Mongolia; however some already grew up in Japan. Example: Hokuseiho (his parents moved to Hokkaido when he was a kid and he went to school in Japan)
>If from Mongolia: do they speak correct japanese? Do they return to Mongolia or stay in Japan? If they stay, do they take ethnic Japanese wives?
Foreigners are required to go to 1 year special school course
to learn what is expected of them about Japanese culture.
Those who want to become sumo coaches/elders stay in Japan (and need to acquire Japanese citizenship), others have returned (e.g. Asashoryu – expelled for shamefur dispray, or Harumafuji – expelled for shamefur dispray)
Hakuho's wife is Japanese
Kakuryu's wife is Mongolian, she moved to Japan and will presumably stay there since Kakuryu intends to stay as an elder
Terunofuji's wife is also Mongolian but she was already in Japan before due to studies


Bernd 10/09/2021 (Sat) 18:19:24 [Preview] No.45242 del
>>45128
>>45129
>>45130
Thanks! So it seems that they have moved on from actually competing and towards "administering". A bit like horse-racing around here, where almost all jockeys are midgets from south-east asia or some other such special location


Bernd 10/09/2021 (Sat) 18:29:56 [Preview] No.45243 del
>>45242
Most contenders are Japs, but every stable has a foreigner, most of them are Mongols (culture of brawling), and frequently they are breddy good (I assume otherwise they wouldn't be even considered), so Makuuchi has many foreigners, and odds are they will reach high ranks.


Bernd 11/13/2021 (Sat) 17:23:44 [Preview] No.45548 del
So... Sumo Kyushu basho starting tomorrow?


Bernd 11/13/2021 (Sat) 17:32:35 [Preview] No.45549 del
>>45548
Wouldn't miss it. 18 CET suits you?


Bernd 11/13/2021 (Sat) 17:37:48 [Preview] No.45550 del
>>45549
Sure.


Bernd 11/14/2021 (Sun) 18:07:27 [Preview] No.45563 del
They need to produce another yokozuna, but for now noone is close to that. Let's see how Hoshoryu performs, maybe he can muscle himself into the higher rankings. Also he grew belly.


Bernd 11/15/2021 (Mon) 18:20:21 [Preview] No.45574 del
https://sumowrestling.fandom.com/wiki/Hokuseiho_Osamu
This says Hokuseiho he contracted COVID in August, so I doubt he has it now. He might hurt his leg. Would be a shame.


Bernd 11/15/2021 (Mon) 20:31:19 [Preview] No.45575 del
https://www.japantimes.co.jp/sports/2021/11/12/sumo/terunofuji-new-era/
Hard to find other rikishi who could snatch the tournament from Teru. The article holds Takakeisho the most probable, but Abi and Hoshoryu can be expected to do great things.


Bernd 11/15/2021 (Mon) 23:16:48 [Preview] No.45578 del
>>45574
Yea, he's the reason they quarantined his stable in September.
Quite needlessly, it seems.

>>45575
inb4 takayasu surprise yusho, after so many last moment chokes :^)


Bernd 11/17/2021 (Wed) 18:39:24 [Preview] No.45590 del
Right off the bat Kokokuzan, fierce fight, after the first setback controlled it through, Asanowaka couldn't recover.
Enho!!!! it seems who fucks up the start against him will lose; he had some chances but he wasn't quick enough probably because the momentum took him too far as well.
Tokoshoryu performs bad.
Kaisho vs. Wakamotoharu nice start, good fight.
Abi's 4th. But for all the guys who aren't Teru, it's gonna gettin harder.
What a long bout for Terutsuyosh.
The 4th win was denied from Aoiyama. I'm kinda glad. Although I think his style of ruthlessness
Ura tiger salto.
Takayas missed a great opportunity right at the beginning, then loooong deadlock. And the mawashi got unfolded for Shimanoumi. Luckily they have several layers otherwise everyone would have been embarrassed.
Probably this basho won't be Hoshoryu's best. But it's still early, maybe he's gonna win the rest. Will he?
What's up with Kiribayama? 0-4
I think when Ichinojo reaches a point, he doesn't try to fight it out, but gives up. Maybe he's careful not to fell, could be too dangerous for him.
Onosho pushed hard, but got tired eventually, picked a good tactic, since Teru is a hugger.


Bernd 11/17/2021 (Wed) 19:13:01 [Preview] No.45591 del
>>45590
Oh hey.. I fell asleep today when I got home from work xD welp, time to watch it myself


Bernd 11/17/2021 (Wed) 19:31:21 [Preview] No.45592 del
>>45591
Quite a few good bouts. Have fun.


Bernd 11/17/2021 (Wed) 19:41:41 [Preview] No.45593 del
>>45592
Ha, Tobizaru knew exactly how to exploit Ura's low stance :^)
I see Akua is pulling off judo throws again.
If you look at the judges in background during Takayasu bout, they're signing each other that 3 minutes have passed already and that gyoji may call it a deadlock which means they'd get a water break (mizu-iri) & return for rematch.


Bernd 11/28/2021 (Sun) 19:33:18 [Preview] No.45698 del
Exciting basho, many great performance left and right (east and west we could say).
I'm glad Terunofuji won flawlessly, he has a big shoe to fill in after Hakuho left. Witch such wins, noone will take him lightly. He's practicing the strict dad stare, I noticed, but has to work on his defense against pushy pushy technique. That caused a bit too much excitement, both against Abi and Takakeisho.
I'm curious about the new rankings, how the banzuke was shuffled.


Bernd 01/02/2022 (Sun) 13:19:35 [Preview] No.46029 del
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New Year Basho starts on the 9th.
Should be interesting.
Terunofuji is still alone as yokozuna. Takakeisho has good winning ratio, only his injury prevented him racking up more points. He is very lopsided as used techniques go, but he is top notch in what does, and he keeps on pulling good performances maybe the elders decide to move him up next to Teru. Considering Teru is better at the hugging style, that would add a balance so to speak.
And there is Abi with similarly strong pushy-pushy game as Takakeisho, he is now ranked 6th Maegeshira I think, keeping up the winning streak he could get a named rank after this basho. Then who knows.
The top positions of the banzuke could be reshuffled, I'm very curious how Ura and Hoshoryu will perform. And there's a couple more strong rikishis I can't recall from the top of my head.
We'll see.


Dutch bernd Bernd 01/06/2022 (Thu) 00:02:22 [Preview] No.46044 del
>>46029
that banner looks raly gud. You make that Hungarybernd? What graphic tool?


Bernd 01/06/2022 (Thu) 07:31:49 [Preview] No.46055 del
>>46044
I used the Dev Tools of the browser to get the image via the Inspector from the code because the devs of this site: https://www.sumo.or.jp/En/ were crafty enough to disable the right click context menu. Then in GIMP I cut off the unnecessary and unappealing part of the image.
So yes, that banner really good, but I can't take credit for this.


HYPE Bernd 01/08/2022 (Sat) 19:43:08 [Preview] No.46076 del
>>46029

Takayasu is out due to his master corona infection. I think someone forgot to call off the quarantine orders now that everyone is vaccinated anyway xDDD
Hidenoumi is out due to shamefur dispray (getting caught gambling), as is Shiden (who previously went by his birth name Shiba. It was supposed to be his first basho in juryo.)

As for the guys to look out for? Mitakeumi and Takanosho were both 11-4 last time, if they continue like this now and in March, they're ozeki candidates. (Mitakeumi might already qualify if he goes 14-1 or something like that, but I guess that's unlikely)
Ura is at a career high ranking (!), M2E.
Oho is joining makuuchi at the very bottom, filling in the spot vacated by Asanoyama finally losing the ranking and stop clogging the chart. He's the first 2000-born rikishi in top division, if I'm not mistaken.
And we'll see if Abi can continue his run, or is he going to plateau back to where he left, in komusubi.


Bernd 01/08/2022 (Sat) 19:43:45 [Preview] No.46077 del
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Also, here's Terunofuji posing in front of his champion photos for last two basho.


Bernd 01/09/2022 (Sun) 16:12:10 [Preview] No.46089 del
>>46076
>getting caught
Rearry shamefur.
>gambling
Oh well, he is just a man.
>Ura is at a career high ranking (!), M2E.
There is no reason not to continue well. Except if he lazy with his training, but I doubt.
Well, I'm looking forward to this basho for sure.

>>46077
We'll see if anyone can beat him. I'm quite curious. Who are the likely candidates for this feat?


Bernd 01/09/2022 (Sun) 16:54:17 [Preview] No.46090 del
>>46089
I don't know. Takakeisho has a bad matchup against him and unless he is in the lead on last day will get demolished by Terunofuji in final match and possible playoff. And the rest simply aren't consistent enough to confidently score at least 13-2.


Bernd 01/10/2022 (Mon) 18:18:56 [Preview] No.46096 del
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This wasn't a nice fall. Not sure if the packs and stuff have to do anything with his heda injury. Papers don't say much about it, japantimes and mainichi says the same (who copies who?) and it's nothing.


Bernd 01/10/2022 (Mon) 18:55:05 [Preview] No.46097 del
FAT!!!༼ つ ◕_◕ ༽つ


Bernd 01/10/2022 (Mon) 20:40:03 [Preview] No.46098 del
>>46097
True.


Bernd 01/15/2022 (Sat) 15:17:15 [Preview] No.46123 del
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Even the guys at the top can be beaten. Ichinojo is not amused.


Bernd 01/20/2022 (Thu) 18:43:48 [Preview] No.46174 del
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The unexpected happened. But then Meisei won in September as well, so maybe I should have been more thoughtful.
Now with Abi and Mitakeumi, Terunofuji stands at 10-2, and the yusho can go either of them.
And there is still Kotonowaka behind them with 9-3. And 3 days left, three points can be acquired, but I doubt he will get all three and the others will lose twice.


Bernd 01/21/2022 (Fri) 19:21:32 [Preview] No.46176 del
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Very good day, exciting bouts. The match of the day was Mitakeumi vs Abi, where the former defeated the other. A pushy pushy match.
The dozing Takanosho at the back doesn't suspect yet how easily he will get beaten by Teru.
Hoshoryu is catching up, and Kotonowaka is still racking up the numbers quietly.


Bernd 01/21/2022 (Fri) 21:08:37 [Preview] No.46178 del
Mitakeumi REALLY deserves ozeki title after this. He's been extremely consistent but constantly just below ozeki since forever. Won the title twice. According to the rulebook on keeping the ozeki title based on performance, since 2017 he'd only lose the title in January 2020 (6-9 in November, 7-8 in January) but instantly win it back in March on his 10-5 performance.
Winning tomorrow vs Takarafuji might already be enough for promotion too, even if he loses to Terunofuji on Sunday.


Bernd 01/22/2022 (Sat) 19:02:24 [Preview] No.46193 del
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Atamifuji vs Kotoyusho They decided Atamifuji won, although he stepped out. Maybe they had their reasons.
Tochimaru vs Chiyoarashi Very intense pushy-pushy bout.
Shit. Azumaryu beat Enho. No 4/4 for him.
Nishikifuji doing good again. Denied Kotokuzan 10th victory.
Kotoshoho nice win, 11-3.
Yago too 11-3. Tomorrow will decide who gets the yusho.
Bushozan captured Midorifuji with clenching his arms. Why Bushozan doesn't pushy-pushy? Midori win by pulling him with his arm. Very nice.

Ishiura will close a good tournament. He managed to get out of Kotoeko's clench. He was in a tight spot there, but he won.
Too bad for Oho. He still can close with winning balance if tomorrow he performs well.
Terutsuyosh' is done. Heh, the audience "wow"ed when he jumped back up to the dohyo.
Hahh! Tobizaru managed to turn back. Although he lost in the end.
Ura stepped out. Before got thrown. Got out twice. I wonder if he noticed his leg slid out. I guess he had to feel the ring.
Mitakeumi vs Takarafuji. Ehhhh. This wasn't a good bout. As if Takarafuji gave it to him - he has a winning balance anyway. He could definitely stop before stepping out. Kinda suspicious. People were very quiet. But 12-2.
Kotonowaka one more win 11-3. Exceptional compared to himself.
Hoshoryu vs Shodai. Torinaoshi-desu. Which was first? Head or knee. Second time Hoshoryu did not allow himself to be hugged. Good change. In pace too.
And Abi won!!! Wow. He could force his style on Teru until he lost his balance. His legs weren't stable. 11-3!
So now Mitakeumi is in the lead, and Teru, Abi, and Kotonowaka is behind with 11-3. Tomorrow Teru will face Mitakeumi. And Abi Kotonowaka. And there might be playoff to decide if the scores are equal. I think Teru can beat Mitakeumi, their style is closer, and if he can hug him and grab his panty, that's good chance to win. And Abi definitely will defeat Kotonowaka. I have no doubt.

Abi said:
>"I was focused on striking hard at the start, I wanted to avenge that (November) loss by executing my kind of sumo."
Yeah, in November Teru forced his style on Abi. Now tables turned.
Mainichi wrote that Mitakeumi twisted his left knee during his bout today.


Bernd 01/23/2022 (Sun) 21:49:19 [Preview] No.46200 del
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The champion is Mitakeumi. He has some chance now to become ozeki. But if not now, keeping similar performance on the next basho should grant him that I presume (leik a 10+ win ratio).
It seems yokozuna Terunofuji hurt his leg on an earlier day preventing him to perform as he should have.
Abi sure jumped a couple of ranks again, maybe in the reach of becoming ozeki. If he keeps up with this form, last two tournaments in Makuuchi he finished with 12-3 record.
Oho gets relegated however. Not sure about the others. Kaisei got injured. Maybe they'll be lenient because of that? I know too little to tell such things. Tsurigisho did not perform good, 6-9. The others in the back lines saved themselves I think.


Bernd 01/28/2022 (Fri) 13:34:18 [Preview] No.46225 del
whats the life expectancy on those?


Bernd 01/28/2022 (Fri) 13:57:49 [Preview] No.46226 del
>>46225
Varies.
https://www.chijanofuji.com/yokozuna.html
Maruyama 37 (he died of some disease, probably dysentery)
Inazuma 82
Tamanoumi 27 - appendectomy
But rolling through the list, I think most falls into the 50-70 range.


Bernd 01/28/2022 (Fri) 21:36:49 [Preview] No.46235 del
>>46226
>most falls into the 50-70 range.
Would that be representative of Mongolia? Or obesity?


Bernd 01/29/2022 (Sat) 07:37:17 [Preview] No.46237 del
>>46235
The majority of the rikishis seem to be deliberately fat (many looks just "overweight", just a few are those who look american style), who don't start out as fat kids and became obese adults, but gain weight consciously for the carrier just enough amount to make the job of other rikishis harder or to put momentum into their moves. They seem to be active to their 35-40 birthdays; those who remain around sumo as elders not many look fat (from among whom I've seen) so they drop their layers after retiring. These are sportsman most of whom live active lives, who trains, who are quick to move. I doubt that many has sloppy fat hearts. This would need more investigation, looking at the yokozuna list above, and calculate all, then look at other rikishis how do they fare, then compare it to Japanese life expectancy (and Mongolian and maybe to other nations).


Bernd 01/29/2022 (Sat) 20:23:19 [Preview] No.46246 del
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>>46237
>but gain weight consciously for the carrier just enough amount to make the job of other rikishis harder or to put momentum into their moves
>These are sportsman most of whom live active lives, who trains, who are quick to move.
I wanted to see how they "fatten" themselves so I looked at some videos: turns out they have this special stew that they eat many times a day while basically just killing time with games or comics or just lazing about the rest of the time LOL


Bernd 01/29/2022 (Sat) 20:56:56 [Preview] No.46248 del
>>46246
I think slov wrote above somewhere that they eat stew and drink beer. Takakeisho stuffs himself with hamburgers.
Slov also posted how Terunofuji lifts:
https://invidious.snopyta.org/watch?v=xaTjkX_vHbY
They only have this job, so their days are going with training and resting.
Here's a longer vid what they do when not on tournament:
https://invidious.snopyta.org/watch?v=Tgyyy6Ctfes
Here apparently Teru practices how to do henkas:
https://invidious.snopyta.org/watch?v=7U-kDOdJjGQ
Note the guy in the front right with that weight at about 0:40.


Bernd 02/11/2022 (Fri) 13:22:14 [Preview] No.46417 del
>>46248
I watched those
Ok some of them do seem to have a certain "balance" of muscle and fat but I still think many look just obese lol
Interesting that ritualistic "reverence" to the teacher in that training video with the guy squatting and the instructor pushing his head after each bout


Bernd 02/11/2022 (Fri) 16:17:19 [Preview] No.46418 del
>>46417
They really aren't the average fatsos.
I think in the lower divisions they are too young to be obese, and upstairs you need to be strong. For example their legs/thighs and asses are giant muscles. Quiet a few of them are quick too.
Check out Abi and Hokutofuji both are quick. Or there are blokes liek Hoshoryu or Wakatakage, they are "lean" (they both about ~130 kgs...). Or the tiny ones: Enho and Midorifuji. Best look at them on videos. Search "[name] bout" on yt for example.
Compare them to Takakeisho and Bushozan. Then to Ichonojo and Kaisei. Then Chiyomaru and Chiyotairyu.


Bernd 02/11/2022 (Fri) 16:50:20 [Preview] No.46419 del
Found a height vs weight chart, 2022 January, Makuuchi division.
Source:
https://fredpink.com/


Bernd 02/12/2022 (Sat) 08:34:37 [Preview] No.46424 del
Here's the one form last November, that features Hakuho, plus a yusho champion chart from the last 30 years in comparison.


Bernd 02/14/2022 (Mon) 20:46:26 [Preview] No.46441 del
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>>46418
I agree with you about them not being like regular off-the-street fatsos, especially when talking about the top-tier competitors that you mention. But what I say is that to me many still look like the unhealthy kind of fat. For example when I just search random images about sumo I find stuff like the pic I posted above.
I tried overlaying a plot of the "body-mass index" (BMI = weight/height^2) on the 30-years chart. According to random strangers on the internet:
BMI ___ Classification
< 16 __ Severely Underweight
[16, 18.5) ____ Underweight
[18.5, 25) ____ Normal
[25, 30) __ Overweight
[30, 40) __ Obese
>= 40 _____ Severely Obese
In the pic there are 2 curves: red is BMI=30, purple is BMI=40. Thus the purple-shaded region is "severe obesity", red-shaded is "obesity". The only area below BMI=30 is the upper-left corner shaded in light blue.
Now, I understand that this is just one rough measure, that it doesn't distinguish muscle from fat, and that sumo is a very niche discipline and thus this metric is possibly not the most apt for it, but it should help clarify my PoV
Perhaps one should try to compare this to another sport with "heavy" competitors to get a more balanced view. Maybe rugby


Bernd 02/14/2022 (Mon) 21:49:40 [Preview] No.46443 del
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>>46441
They are obviously fat, and if we keep to the classification you posted we can call them severely obese. However they have way more muscle mass, for they not just need to be heavy but they have to move heavy. And they also have to be quick when necessary, although not all can pull sidesteps and spins well.
The most notable difference when we look at them, that how the "average" severely obese person's arms and legs puffy, but the rikishi's arms are thin, and their legs are very muscly. Their fat deposits are their bellies and tits. And even that ain't that big as those who are called severely obese.
If we would compare the 30 years of champions chart with the current Makuuchi wrestles charts the distribution seems similar, most fell in 175-190 cm and 130-180 kg box.
Btw if you check the # of championships you can see Hakuho leads by miles. He was very quick too. Here's a pic with a normal person. Would you call Hakuho severely obese?

Here's Abi's bouts from the last basho (8 mins):
https://youtube.com/watch?v=m6KtWBM1crY [Embed]
https://invidious.snopyta.org/watch?v=m6KtWBM1crY


Bernd 02/14/2022 (Mon) 21:50:55 [Preview] No.46444 del
>>46443
Although, he could be just 140 kg on that pic, in that case he would be simply obese (which he isn't).


Bernd 02/14/2022 (Mon) 21:54:49 [Preview] No.46445 del
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Now this guy on the other hand...
Maybe one way of measuring it how they walk. Takakeisho walks like a pregnant woman.


Bernd 02/15/2022 (Tue) 11:23:24 [Preview] No.46446 del
Here's a list of bodybuilders for comparison. Height + weight, taken from here: https://jackedgorilla.com/biggest-bodybuilders/ (I dunno how trustworthy it is, only gives vague sources, but we need only an idea), converted to cm and kg (rounded down)
Dennis Wolf: 180 cm, 117 kg
Dennis James: 172 cm, 117 kg
Jay Cutler: 177 cm, 117 kg
Dorian Yates: 177 cm, 117 kg (wtf, all the same)
Roelly Winklaar: 172 cm, 120 kg
Jean-Pierre Fux: 180 cm, 124 kg
Nasser El Sonbaty: 180 cm, 126 kg
Zack Kahn: 182 cm, 127 kg
Markus Rühl: 177 cm, 129 kg
Paul Dillet: 185 cm, 129 kg
Lou Ferrigno: 193 cm, 129 kg
Günter Schlierkamp: 185 cm, 134 kg
Ronnie Coleman: 180 cm, 136 kg
Big Ramy: 177 cm, 143 kg
Greg Kovacs: 193 cm, 149 kg

Now I'm thinking how much this tells us. Only the last four falls into the average box of the Makuuchi division by weight. It sure they have the bulk of their muscles on their upper body: back, chest, shoulders, neck, arms... while rikishis build most of their muscles on their legs, ass, lower back and stomach - as they have to move weight in different fashion. I noted above that for most their arms look relatively thin. Only a few tries and succeed to lift his opponent up and bring them out (Terunofuji can do that with some opponents).


Bernd 02/20/2022 (Sun) 15:52:24 [Preview] No.46509 del
>>46443
>Would you call Hakuho severely obese?
You are still focusing on these top ranked wrestlers, and specially this Hakuho dude who is apparently the GOAT or something (and as you say the pic might not be representative of his most piggy appearance). I already agreed with you when talking about these top tier men who, as I said, have a balance of muscle and fat. I'm still not convinced though about the general case. Many and probably most sumos still look to me obese.
But to answer your question directly, judging from that pic I would certainly call him fat and perhaps obese too if I had a profile view, but not "severely obese"


Bernd 03/07/2022 (Mon) 11:30:08 [Preview] No.46847 del
Haru basho starts next weekend.
Mitakeumi got the ozeki stripes, good for him, Abi also jumped to the rank of sekiwake, and Hoshoryu to komusubi.
Shodai needs to put something on the table otherwise he's gonna be demoted.
Abi performs great, 11-4, 13-2, 12-3, 12-3 are his previous results (although the first two was in Juryo), he is in the reach of becoming Ozeki.


Bernd 03/13/2022 (Sun) 15:53:07 [Preview] No.46898 del
>>46847
Gonna stream as usual, 18:30 CET.


Bernd 03/13/2022 (Sun) 20:47:18 [Preview] No.46900 del
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It was a breddy gud opening day.
Both tiny rikishis, Enho and Midorifuji, won a swell bout, the returning Ryuden also gained the upper hand.
Wakatakage performed a lightning quick sidestep right after the tachi-ai, was very nice.
Abi lost unexpectedly from Onosho. Ofc Onosho ain't bad, but still.
Mitakeumi's fight with Ichonojo wasn't that good. Ichinojo's bouts frequently falls flat, uninteresting since he is so huge not much can be done against him, but he is slow and prone to injuries so he have to be careful. So when he starts losing he frequently just gives up. Now he was just simply pushed out from the ring.
Onosho and Takakeisho are both kadoban ozekis struggling against relegation. First failed, but the other was very effective against Ura.
What else to mention?
I'm glad for Takayas', nice win.
Also Hoshoryu got the hardest opponent right after the bat, Terunofuji defeated him the 6th times, from their 6th match up.


Bernd 03/14/2022 (Mon) 04:05:45 [Preview] No.46904 del
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>>46847
>>46900
Would bernds play a gud sumo wrestling game if one is made? I know there's american wrestling games around, but never seen Japanese one or from another culture of werestling


Bernd 03/14/2022 (Mon) 17:47:04 [Preview] No.46925 del
>>46904
Most irl bouts are just too short, so it doesn't make sense to adapt sumo to a videogame. Maybe a rikishi, sumo stable management game could be made well. Issuing training regimen, decide if someone needs more weight, manage injuries, pick young rikishi talents, get sponsors, advertisement contracts for top players, building facilities, etc.


Bernd 03/14/2022 (Mon) 19:46:02 [Preview] No.46927 del
Ryuden won confidently.
Fugg. Enho got pushed by Hakuyozan in the false tachi-ai... Shamefur dispray.
Yago vs Tokushoryu, that was relatively exciting.
But it paled compared to Midori's win.
Azumaryu vs Tsurugisho was a good struggle. The latter's panty lost first.
Kotoeko vs Terutsuyoshi match was fun, both guys are small in Makuuchi, mostly they have to fight different opponents.
Haha, Aioyama rarely gives mercy but when he does he gives it to Tobizaru... The layers of ironings.
Takayas' started at it with great elan, and won with a good throw.
Daieisho beat Teru! I'm not happy about it but it is interesting turn of events.


Bernd 03/15/2022 (Tue) 17:36:05 [Preview] No.46944 del
wat teh fugg, I got kicked out of cytu.be


Bernd 03/15/2022 (Tue) 17:38:17 [Preview] No.46945 del
ok now cytu.be is back
but it moved back in time


Bernd 03/15/2022 (Tue) 17:40:09 [Preview] No.46946 del
>>46945
It still doesn't work for me. And Says url doesnt exist.


Bernd 03/15/2022 (Tue) 17:43:27 [Preview] No.46947 del
It fixed itself. Was a weird error.


Bernd 03/16/2022 (Wed) 18:32:53 [Preview] No.46957 del
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In Juryo it's Ryuden and the little guys. Enho got beaten for the first time. I hope Asanowaka gets his act together.
Mitakeumi and Takayas' are still unbeaten. It was by just a hair for Mitakeumi, but for now Takayas seems to be in great form. Shodai is a wreck, although I'm glad for Ura beating him.


Bernd 03/19/2022 (Sat) 18:29:26 [Preview] No.46984 del
Enho, noooo, he got beaten.
Ryuden won confidently.
Midori did a quick job.
Kitanowaka still riding head to head with Ryuden, at 7-0.
I'm glad for Kotoshoho, nice yorikiri. Hopefully he can pull a positive balance.
Tobizaru's nice henka but couldn't use it, then quickly moved out from a push/hug. Did very good, was very agile.
Kotonowaka continues to win. I wonder if he can continue the roll in the future and if he manages to climb among the top players.
Takayas! Great pushypushy!!!
Takarafuji seems failing this tournament.
Ichinojo great saves. But Kiribayama did not give up, great effort.
Hoshoryu's tachi-ai looked like he goes for a sidestep, but not really.
Ura vs Abi - they could have call a false start. But Ura often doesn't go in. Abi often does this going forward mad, then suddenly gives way and moves back while pushes his opponent down.
Wakatakakage also won a nice bout.
Mitakeumi just let Onosho fall.
Shodai gave in what he had. He has to try more, because this was a good bout too.
Good matches all around. Can't complain for today's performance


Bernd 03/28/2022 (Mon) 21:08:34 [Preview] No.47087 del
This shit was masterful on behalf of Wakatakakage.
Before he'd fell out he pulled himself back with Takayas' arm just enough to grab his mawashi and pull himself back more while rolling Takayas out. Awesome.
I'm sorry for Takayas. He led the tournament since the beginning.
Wakatakakage was strong and quick. In the interview he said he managed to keep center of gravity down during whole tournament, an aspect he wished to improve previously. Well deserved championship.


Natsu Basho Bernd 05/06/2022 (Fri) 15:01:10 [Preview] No.47448 del
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Sumo is back, grand tournament of May starts this Sunday!
Again gonna stream nattosumo's recaps (if he still makes them, he should) every day at 18:30 on https://cytu.be/r/endcorner

Terunofuji had to sit out most of the last basho due to injury (heel and knee).
Three ozekis this isn't changed due to Shodai managed getting his shit together previously.
Wakatakakage and Abi as sekiwakes, but neither has the track record needed to become champions.
Hoshoryu is komusubi now can he move up with pulling a great score?
Takayas climbed back, but Ura fell back now he is on the same level with Wakamotoharu.

Now let's take a look at the other end of the banzuke.
Oho is in Makuuchi again, and now the tiny Midorifuji too! I wish both of them luck.

In Juryo it's Ryuden and Enho. The former should beat the whole bunch again, and probably move up to Makuuchi by next tournament. The latter I hope can perform well and get to the top of this division.
I dunno about the rest, especially the new ones. Probably Slov could write something.


Bernd 05/08/2022 (Sun) 20:17:33 [Preview] No.47466 del
First day bouts weren't that good to be honest. A bit lackluster compared to the start of the previous one. And not because several of the contestants who should have won failed, simply just not that many bouts had that intensity.
Enho and Ryuden won, that is a plus, Enho nicely, Ryuden's was a bit meh, his opponent gave up at the end.
Shodai, Takakeisho, and Terunofuji all lost. It seems Teru still has problems with his legs, congrats Daieisho however on his win against the yokozuna, whom he beat the second time straigh.
Hoshoryu too, lost. I think Ichinojo did not participate at all. I guess injury.
Oho and Midorifuji got beaten too.

Well it was just the first day. Anything can happen till the end.


Bernd 05/08/2022 (Sun) 20:18:31 [Preview] No.47467 del
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Forgot pic.


Bernd 05/19/2022 (Thu) 14:44:08 [Preview] No.47608 del
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First bout right at the bat was breddy gud. Chiyonoumi vs. Churanoumi
Enho did a great throw! Started very aggressively, and kept his opponent in check, then threw him onto the ground with his mawashi. He needs to win 3 more, essentially all the bouts left to get a positive balance.
Kitanowaka was back from sitting 5 out. But lost.
Akua had to a barrel roll.

Ryuden fought in Makuuchi, against Oho. Won clear and relatively fast. I feel sorry for Oho, but was almost inevitable.
Aoiyama still doing good, had his 8th win, positive balance achieved.
Terutsuyosh' was harassed until fell.
Takanosho's 10th win. He'll do couple of steps in the ranking.
Kiribayama vs Wakamotoharu, very intense. Tachi-ai big crash.
Takayas and Takarafuji, both having very bad score. Bu Takayas' routinely beat Takarafuji on previous occasions, now too. Takarafuji 2-10...
Shodai got henka'd but get himself together for a moment. Elders decided at a rematch. Sadly Shodai beat Tobizaru this time.
Matakeumi has to run after the results now that Abi beat him.
Takakeisho vs. Ura. Ura already was in positive balance. What a surprising bout, even them did not know what happened. Hilarious, laffed a lot. Ura won. Congrats.
Terunofuji STRONK. I'm expecting at least one more win from Teru. I hope his joints hold together.


Nagoya basho Bernd 07/03/2022 (Sun) 18:46:14 [Preview] No.48136 del
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On next Sunday starts the July tournament in Nagoya.
I think the most notable thing is that both Mitakeumi and Shodai are kadoban now. Mitakeumi might had some injury or something. He had great streak before Natsu basho.
At the bottom of the Makuuchi banzuke, Oho managed to hang on, still in, and Nishikifuji first time in there.
In Juryo Ruyden is at the top, he is still expected to won the yusho, but whatever he does, as long as it is a positive balance I assume he can get in Makuuchi on next basho.
Atamifuji jumped to #6, Enho is #8 West, Kaisei fall to the 11th row. At the bottom of the banzuke, neither four guy has much impressive record as far as I can tell.

I'm gonna watch it when I'll be able, and give some commentary about the bouts I found noteworthy for some reason.


Bernd 07/10/2022 (Sun) 19:37:10 [Preview] No.48243 del
>gonoyama
>call from doctors office
Keks

Juryo
Oshoma vs Hokuseiho - What a slow, weak tachi-ai! The rest was similar. Disappointment.
Kitanowaka vs Yago - Way, way better. Yago did not let himself lift out. So they fell. Was funny too.
Kaisei vs Tochimari - Kaisei felt that push too much. Was it a nerve ending?
Shimazuumi vs. Churanoumi - Very good, intense. They tried various tricks.
Kaisho vs Enho - Yesss! Little man starting with a win. Put a great push against Kaisho.
Hiradoumi vs Kotokuzan - Big pushypushy battle.
Akua vs Bushozan - Akua played the part of the turtle at the end.
Asanowaka vs Daishoho - That was quick. I think Asanowaka is doing good in general. He could be another little man in Makuuchi for a bit.
Azumaryu vs. Hidenoumi - Hidenoumi rolled over just too easy, it seemed. I dunno.
Ryuden was fightin in Makuuchi today.

Makuuchi
Shieeeet Takayas has Arteritis.
Ryuden vs. Chiyomaru - Opening with 6-1 balance, I expected Ryuden to win. And with a straightforward yorikiri he did no kachi.
Yutakayama vs. Oho - They got tired. It was a long bout. Oho needs to work on his Endurance stat. He is better than Juryo.
Onosho vs Tsurigisho - Shit. Onosho at 15th place, and starts with this. Shame.
Myogirsu vs. Takarafuji - They did right to order modo-ii. Happened too quick.
Terutsuyoshi vs Chiyoshoma - I thought it was a hairpull, soon after the start, but Chiyoshoma just pulled on the back of his head.
Ichiyamamoto vs. Midorifuji - Midori is quite up in the ranking considering. No luck this time.
Kotoshoho vs Meisei - Kotoshoho frogge. Meisei is better.
Chiyotairyu vs Kotoeko - Another mono-ii-desu. And torinaoshi!
Tochinoshin vs Hokutofuji - Hahh, one win for the crippled legged one.
Okinoumi vs Tobizaru - Very nice win by the Flying Monke. And lucky too. And he did not have to leave the dohyo either.
Aoiyama vs. Sadanoumi - Intense. Mono-ii. I still not sure, he maybe was out with a Toe.
Hoshoryu vs Ura - I had great expectations. Ura did big push in the beginning, then Hoshoryu exploited his momentum, hikiotoshi'dded.
Wakatakakage vs. Ichinojo - The senior Waka in new colors. Did not help him. It is hard to move a 211 kgs Ichinojo.
Kotonowaka vs kadoban-no ozeki Shodai - Bad start for babyface.
Takanosho vs Mitakeumo - I thought it will be mono-ii, but Takanosho's heel was out way earlier.
Takakeisho vs. Kiribayama - Very nice. Kiribayama could force Hamster into hugging instead of pushypushy. Results were had. This is how you do it.
Terunofuji vs. Abi - Wow. Abi managed to beat him. Bad first bout for the yokozuna. Abi managed to change into reverse and allow Teru to push forward too much. Shame. Teru has to do better than this. Although Abi isn't an easy opponent ofc.


Bernd 07/11/2022 (Mon) 12:39:23 [Preview] No.48252 del
Juryo
Oshoma vs Gonoyama - Way better than I expected. Shitatenage, not big throw, but a throw
Chiyosakae vs Hokuseiho - This was funny due to height difference. It isn't funny with the other little guys. Why?
Kaisei vs Yago - He changed the events to his advantage by repositioning his arm. Kaisei seems okay, no problem from yesterday.
Kitanowaka vs Tochimaru - classic pushypushy ending with a pull down instead.
Kaisho vs Shimazuumi - Very nice. Not spectacular, but nice, sukuinage, roll.
Churanoumi vs Enho - Ayyayyay. But Churanoumi knows how to beat Enho, and knows he has to be careful.
Ajza vs Hiradoumi - Mono-ii. You know it isn't a good bout when barely anyone is clapping.
Chiyonokuni vsd Atamifuji - Henka'd. Hatakikomi.
Tokoshoryu vs Mitoryu - The fattest and the fatter.
Kagayaki vs Asanowaka - Asanowaka is decent, but Kagayaki is from Makuuchi. Asanowaka tried to pull on his arm, but was simpli pushed out.
Daishoho vs Tohakuryu - Big fall.
Ryuden vs Azumaryu - Azumaryu lift Ryuden up, but couldn't do much with that.

Makuuchi
Shieeet. Midori has to hold the sword like that. Must be trying.
Nishikifuji vs Hidenoumi - False start.
Chiyomaru vs Daimami - left ankle injury for Daimami, no fight today
Onosho vs. Yutakayama - The fuck Onosho, you are better than this. Mono-ii, but still.
Oho vs. Tsurugisho - A point for Oho. Good. Thought he will push him out, but uwatanage is fine too. Kinda stumbled tho.
Myogiryu vs Chiyoshoma - Kinda classic Chiyoshoma, this win feels like his style.
Ichiyamamoto vs Takarafuji - Hah. This was a fun bout. Me rikey. So many times it could have ended. All for Takarafuji, then he was the one who lost in the end. "Kubihenri"
Kotoshoho vs Terutsuyoshi - Kotoshoho seemed tired of that salt throwing show. Punished Terutsuyosh for it. Very nice throw. Kinda what Tertutsuyosh prefers to do.
Midorifuji vs Meisei - Hahahaaa. It looked grim for Midori as he got more and more back, but turned the tables and the direction well.
Shimanoumi vs Chiyotaryu - Meh.
Kotoeko vs Nishikigi - Kotoeko couldn't stay on his feet.
Okinoumi vs Tochinoshin - Great effort. Okinoumi grabbed that panty with both hands, that must have helped.
Hokutofuji vs Tobizaru - 5-0 balance changed to 6-0. I wonder if Tobizaru will ever find the medicine against him. Nice sportsmanship after the big fall. Commendable. Tobizaru also accepted the helping hand, such seems rare among rikishis.
Endo vs Aoiyama - Classic chinpush by Aoiyama. The audience did not liek it. Maybe they wanted to see more resistance from Endo
Wakamotoharu vs. Sadanoumi - Tachi-ai felt slow.
Ura vs Abi - I liek short names. HENKA! Then just a bit of push since Abi started to pull and retreat. Congrats Ura, very good.
Wakatakakage vs. Tamawashi-washi - Ayyayyayyyyy. Waka* dun goofed. He lost his footing right after tachi-ai. Sad. Could have been better.
Ichinojo vs Daieisho - Straighforward, quick.
Takakisho vs Hoshoryu - Hamster is a tough walnut to crack for Hoshoryu.
Takanosho vs Shodai - With these performances we can expect Shodai not to be an ozeki next basho.
Kotonowaka vs Mitakeumi - He grabbed his panty and never let it go.
Terunofuji vs. Kiribayama - Long battle, but Kiribayama had to leave. He tried well, but Teru is very hard to beat like that. Abi had a better idea yesterday. Teru needs to win MOAR.


Bernd 07/12/2022 (Tue) 15:25:18 [Preview] No.48258 del
Juryo
Takakento vs Gonoyama - This was quick. Hard charge right after tachi-ai.
Oshoma vs Chiyosakae - Meh. Oshoma got hold the sagari and never let it go. This was a mistake I think.
Yago vs Tochimaru - Big pushypushy, then an anti-climactic yorikiri-desu.
Kaisei vs Shimazuumi - How Kaisei fell this low. He couldn't even exploit his size.
Kaisho vs Churanoumi - This was ok. Mono-ii-desu.
Hiradoumi vs Enho - Ouch. When he bends back, you just know he's done.
Akua vs. Kotokuzan - Have to be careful with being careful and pulling back the opponent before he falls, not to be too early with that and save him from losing.
Atamifuji vs Bushozan - Mono-ii? I thought it was clear. They have different view of the dohyo.
Chiyonokuni vs Tokushoryu - Good job, Chiyonokuni
Mitoryu vs Daishoho - Good clean yotsu-zumo. Big slap at the start, than hugging till the end.
Asanowaka vs Tohakuryu - Asanowaka just can't beat him. The 6th time.
Azumaryu vs Kagayaki - Juryo should be easy for Kagayaki, I'm waiting his bout with Ryuden.
Ryuden vs Hidenoumi - Long bout, good struggle, Hidenoumi got tired.

Makuuchi
Yutakayama vs Chiyomaru - Good exploit of momentum. Little push.
Nishikifuji vs Oho - I more and more appreciate short named rikishis. Great save by Oho, but couldn't turn the bout over.
Tsurugisho vs Takarafuji - Good start, and a good roll over.
Terutsuyoshi vs Ichiyamamoto - Terutsuyosh tried a kick, then had to run far.
Chiyoshoma vs Midorifuji - Long bout, good struggle, they are very even I think, previous balance of their meeting was 2-2. And mono-ii this time, haha. But Midori won.
Chiyotairyu vs Kotoshoho - Chiyotairyu frogge.
Meisei vs Kotoeko - Short but sweet. Kotoeko brought this back from a position not many can.
Tochinoshin vs Shimanoumi - Tochinoshin did that very nicely.
Nishikigi vs Hokutofuji - Nishikigi is doing consistently well, coming from Juryo, stepping further with each basho.
Aoiyama vs. Okinoumi - Very intense start and Okinoumi resisted well that pull which sent Shimanoumi down. But then still get clayed.
Tobizaru vs Sadanoumi - Very nice win by Tobizaru. Getting his opponent out of balance, then keeping out of him of it, until danced him out of the dohyo.
Tamawashi vs Endo - 16-13 at start, they met a lot. Now Tamawash could add one more. He stood the strom in the beginning. And then just pushed.
Hoshoryu vs Ichinojo - Both tried to exploit Ichinojo's weight in the beginning. Then one big push from granma, and finish it with a throat/chin push.
Wakamotoharu vs Daieisho - Wakamotoharu fell a bit early.
Wakatakakage vs Ura - I can say: ufff.
Abi vs Mitakeumi - Abi harrassed the ozeki well and far.
Takakeisho vs Kotonawaka - That one big slap on the chin!
Kiribayama vs Shodai - Shodai turned to his side too much, Kiribayama exploited the chance well. He has less and less chance keeping hist title.
Terunofuji vs Takanosho - Teru had a very hard job to regulate Takanosho. But he kept balance. His win depended on a hair. Nice bout.


Bernd 07/14/2022 (Thu) 16:50:52 [Preview] No.48287 del
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Turns out hard to find the time to watch the basho.
So Day 4 just now. Commenting only on a couple of highlights.

Juryo
Kinbozan did good.
Gonoyama rolled a 100.
Kagayaki confidently.
Asanowaka had a surprisingly easy win.
Daishoho couldn't recover after made losing balance.

Makuuchi
Big struggle between Oho and Chiyoshoma. Gyoji tried to get the sagari, but failed. Grip too strong. Finally Oho won.
Nice win by Midori. Kotoeko almost rolled him out.
Tochinoshin got henka'd. What's more, his push bounced Tobizaru, and helped him.
Whoa, Ura! Great job.
Hoshoryu vs Shodai. Dat bout. Very nice. Hoshoryu was playing the "I don't squat first, you squat first" game, it feels disgraceful. Shodai still an ozeki, even if doesn't have the best form. So I'm glad Shodai won this one, Hoshoryu needs more humility.
Ouch. Ichonojo that almost hairpull. Probably his fingers got stuck in some looser strands, because that wasn't an actual grab.
Kotonowaka plays a game that suits Teru. That's not how you beat the yokozuna.


Bernd 07/17/2022 (Sun) 08:19:30 [Preview] No.48298 del
Day 5, I'm behind the shedule, busy days.

Juryo
I thought Kitanowaka did a hairpull, but just pushed on the nape.
Hiradoumi vs Kaisho - they both just took a swing and jumped out leaving it for the chance. Kinda.
Enho, little man, got his second point. Nicely. Although anytime he bags a win, it has to be done in some spectacular way, simple yorikiri or oshidashi is hard to get due to his size I think.
Mitoryu thought he takes a nap in his armchair. There was no armchair.
Kagayaki almost saved it.
Ryuden got beaten. Ow well. Tohakuryu did good I have to say

Makuuchi
Midori is in great form for now. Another win. Good chance having a positive balance.
Tobizaru slammed down the big guy.
Kotonowaka vs Endo - Interesting how a moment can decide a bout. Just one, then no stopping.
Kiribayama vs Takanosho - From 1-11 to 2-12. Takanosho knows how to beat Kiribayama. Not today.
Wakatakakage vs Hoshory bouts are always entertaining.
Takakeisho fucked up the first tachi-ai. But not the bout.
Shodai gets his ass handed to. 1-4.
Ura vs Mitakeumi - I had great hopes for this bout. Both were very careful at start. That ar pull by Ura was butifel (tottari). Poor Mita.
Generally Ichinojo doesn't seem to put much resistance up against Terunofuji (13-2 is their balance for Teru). Now this was entirely different pasta and Ichinojo walked out the yokozuna. It was a big struggle (of the titans), Teru tried to clinch his arms, but Ichinojo had a good grip on his panty. Ichinojo was liek the bellows during the interview after the win, catching his breath. But now he leads the banzuke alone, unbeaten.


Bernd 07/17/2022 (Sun) 09:42:46 [Preview] No.48299 del
Day 6th. Getting there.

Juryo
Hokuseiho vs Tochimaru - Hoku is 200 cm tall and the height difference was very apparent (similarly to his bout against Chiyosakae). I keep expecting the "little guys" in his bouts fight like the real little guys (Enho, Midori, Terutsuyosh, etc) do. But they don't. And this makes these bouts humorous to watch.
Shimazuumi vs Oshoma - Big struggle!
Kasho vs Kaisei - This was quick. Nice throw. Kaisei is gonna fall behind.
Big WOW for Enho. Great lift.
Ryuden vs Asanowaka - Mono-ii. I couldn't tell either ofc. Ryuden had the initiative all along, but Asanowaka backed quickly and fell later.

Makuuchi
Onosho like a locomotive.
Kotoshoho vs Midorifuji - Almost got the gyoji. But his decision stood.
Tochinoshin vs Kotoeko. Good struggle. Kotoeko was lucky win, and unfortunate to fall.
Aoiyama kinda hairpull? Again, more like just got stuck in a strand, then real pull. But he stepped out first.
Hoshory managed to kill Abi's style by not getting into a pushypushy contest but trying to hold him. Then there was no place to back for Abi.
Ichinojo 6-0. Mitakeumi can be in big trouble. Would be shame to lose his ozeki title.
Takekeisho did good I think. Got Ura on the side in the right moment.
Finally another win for Shodai.
Teru was ready for Tamawashi this time. Parried the pushey then threw him by his arm. Good. He can't let him beat anymore. Well a 10-5 record would be still good I think. He has to spare himself too as the lonely yokozuna.
Ichinojo is still the top rikishi, and Tobizaru on the second place, alone with 5-1.


Bernd 07/17/2022 (Sun) 19:30:54 [Preview] No.48302 del
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Day 7

Juryo
Chiyosakae vs Tochimaru - Very good bout to start the day.
Hokuseiho got an opponent of his size. Did good against Kaisei, who has 1-6 now. Kinda sad, but I'm glad for Hokuseiho. He is tall with long arms, has good record in Makushita.
Bushozan relentlessly beat Enho.
Hiradoumi is very quick at tachi-ai. Torinaoshi. 6-1 for him, leading the board.
While he won it doesn't seem Ryuden has real spirit in him.

Makuuchi
Nishikifuji might has something to do in Makuuchi.
Shieeeet. Midori henka'd Myogiryu at tachi-ai. Audience did not like it.
Terutsuyosh' vs Kotoeko - 12:12. They were fairly even now too. But 12:13 till their next meeting.
Weeew, Aoiyama went forward like a machine.
'chinoooshiiiiiiiiiiin
Hokutofuji was fast. Damn fast.
This time Tobizaru got henka'd.
Kotonowaka vs Tamawashi. Monoii. I was expecting Tamawash, but suddenly a pause in Kotonowaka's movement, and it was just enough for Tamawash to fall first.
Takanosho is out. Too bad.
Shodai stopped Ichinojo's march to unbeaten glory. One more point to save his ass and title.
Mitakeumi is out. Covid? Then many more rikishis have to sit this one out.
Wowww. Abi beat Takakeisho very nicely. A combination of henka, then pull down by the nape while pulling with the mawashi, then a throw out.
Terunofuji vs. Ura - Thought dis gon be gud. It was ok. Ura avoided being lifted out, but trying to get out from the clinch, he moved himself out of space, then lifted out anyway.
Still Ichinojo in the lead, but bunch of players right after within reach, but just Teru and Kotonowaka are high ranking. Well, maybe Tobizaru, but he is too light. The 4-3 group is very numerous and it is full of with names who have a yusho in them. And it's still early.


Bernd 07/17/2022 (Sun) 21:18:48 [Preview] No.48303 del
Day 8

Juryo
Another win for Hokuseiho. 6-2. He needs more muscles.
Jesus, what a save done by Enho. And a win. Yago wanted to go after him and exploit Enho's precarious situation, and that became his loss. He should have stablitize himself, stall the bout a bit.
Good effort by Atamifuji.
I'm not satisfied with Ryuden's form. He brings in the wins, but has a hard time most of the time. He's gonna have a hard time in Makuuchi too.

Makuuchi
Down to 20 bouts, says Nattosumo. Still 36 mins long Makuuchi recaps. It's usually around 30 mins. The fuck?
Nishikifuji +1
Terutsuyoshi vs Shimanoumi - Back and forth. Good win.
First win of Tochinoshin over Midorifuji. On the previous to occasion, the tiny one beat the big man.
Ura quick win against Bulgar giant.
Kotonowaka did good against Ichinojo. Now their balance is the same 6-2.
Hoshoryu vs Kiribayama. Good struggle. They are a good match. Similarly to Wakatakakage.
Who beat Daieisho spectacularly. I think Daiesho frequently targets the chin and face of his opponents.
Takakeisho controlled well Endo, with his usual pushypushy.
Shodai saving his as again. Corrected to 4-4.
Terunofuji vs. Wakamotoharu. Starts at ~24:30, 12 minutes before the end of the video. Goddamn. Indeed a long bout. Whew, Wakamotoharu kept himself well, good tries, gave a good run to Teru for his money. And gyoji fucked it up by distract Teru - which allowed Wakamotoharu to push him out of the dohyo. The face on poor gyoji while the discussion. A very good bout ended with such a shamefur dispray. Restart from the point and position where they were. How exciting, first time I've ever seen such (not that I watch this thing for long tho). The audience also enjoyed the moments of rearrangement. After restart, Teru put Wakamotoharu out of the dohyo quickly. Ayy.
Now many 6-2. At half way in the basho.

I dl'd the vid of the day, gonna try separate out yokozuna bout. Or just search it on yt, I'm sure someone uploaded just that.


Bernd 07/18/2022 (Mon) 12:11:36 [Preview] No.48305 del
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Yesterday's yokozuna bout, Terunofuji vs Wakamotoharu.
It seems Wakamotoharu's mawashi unfolding made the gyoji intervene.


Bernd 07/18/2022 (Mon) 13:23:11 [Preview] No.48306 del
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Day 9

Juryo
Hokuseiho got beaten by Roga visiting from Makushita.
Shimazuumi is sitting this one out due to Covid (as Mitakeumi).
Not Enho's day. 4-5. He still needs 4 wins to positive balance in the next 6 days.
Kaisei suffered another defeat, but it was a good struggle.
Simple win by Ryuden. He was on the attack all along. Sharing the first place with Hiradoumi, with 7-2.


Makuuchi
Chiyomaru is trying to salvage the situation, but missing 5 points from salvation. Which means only one mistake from now on.
No Ichiyamamoto - covid.
Oho vs Takarafuji - long bout, Oho's exiting in the end.
Terutsuyoshi precisely grabbed Daiamami's left leg, avoiding his open arms. Very nice.
Kotoshoho did good. Held down Onoshos pushing arms, then flipped him, by the left arm.
Midori's game was also decided by holding down his arms.
Tobizaru vs Shimanoumi long pushypushy bout. Nice finish by Tobizaru.A quick kick on leg, then pulling his opponent down.
Aoiyama got henka'd by Kotoeko.
Ichinojo back to winning.
I think Hoshoryu has a bad habit of pushing too much in the last push.
In the past bashos Kotonowaka was always among the leading rikishis.
Abi vs Shodai - First time Shodai has positive balance this basho. He caught up. Abi couldn't push him backwards enough, then channeled Abi's momentum.
Where did Terunofuji bring it back from! Very nice. After that Endo did not have a chance, and for that he had to literally jump at Teru.
So now there is a bunch of 7-2s, and three 6-3 rikishis. And good names with 5-4 balance. And 6 days remaining so speculation is useless.


Bernd 07/19/2022 (Tue) 17:27:30 [Preview] No.48327 del
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Day 10

Juryo
Kaisei 1-8. How the mighty has fallen. His best was Sekiwake. Won one, he really needs those. He brought back it from the rim.
Hiaradoumi had hard time with Hokuseiho. He went forward and gave a good struggle. But only the last move mattered. Now both have 7-3.
Enho vs Gonoyama - good struggle. Mono-ii. Enho seemed to be down first. And they decided he was. Oh well.
Daishoho got his nose smashed at tachi-ai. It bled so much Gyoji had to stop the bout and do a little first aid. I think that is more uncomfortable than just continue with nosebleed. He just lost anyway. Both got bloody good.
Ryuden vs Atamifuji - Atamifuji gave a good struggle against Ryuden, but got defeated. With this victory, Ryuden is at the top of the list, and he also made it into Makuuchi (he won his qualification bout earlier).

Makuuchi
Big scramble at the top of the list. Many has a good chance for the yusho.
Kotoshoho vs Oho - not sure which one I favor.
Good win, Midori.
Terutsuyosh henka'd Tochinoshin.
Nishikigi marches on 8th win. I did not expect that.
Tobizaru also pocketed the 8th win. At one point he lost balance, but recovered. Chiyotaru wasn't in the position to exploit it. Wait he even did a hairpull I think. Anyway, he lost.
Okay, a win finally for Wakamotoharu. Poor lad, he might have thought he won that yokozuna bout, but his mawashi betrayed him.
Hoshoryu smashed Kotonowaka to the clay. He could grab his mawashi, and helped out with his leg to lift him.
Abi almost managed to recover, but Kiribayama went in for the last push in time.
Endo pulled a nice trick but couldn't recover.
After bout Takakeisho looked like he's getting a heart attack as he squatted for the cash.
Ura vs Shodai - Potentially every Ura bout is a good bout. Shodai stepped one more towards remaining ozeki. He needs two more. Still 5 days. Doable.
Teru simple win. Positive balance now, but he needs more wins for the prestige.

Okay. I think those with 6-4 have little chance to be the champion. One among them would need 5 wins, and that's only 11 points. The 8-2s and 7-3s are still in the ring. I think Terunofuji has the best odds. Ichinojo isn't agile enough, Tobizaru is too small, Nishikigi isn't that good and the bouts should get harder. Nishikifuji is too back at M17. The other too whom I count on to be able to pull a good score are Takakeisho and Kotonowaka, but both can bleed out in the bouts with their peers.


Bernd 07/20/2022 (Wed) 17:27:57 [Preview] No.48334 del
Day 11

Juryo
Churanoumi vs Kotokuzan - big pushypushy battle
Kaisei won quick. Audience wasnt too enthusiastic.
Yeah, most of the guys have to fight Hokuseiho as if they were Enhos.
Great save by Hiradoumi.
Tohakuryu also on leave coz Covid.
Azumaryu ditto. This basho is turning into a joke. Although all those fatsos might get problems with their hearts. That would be a shame.
Ryuden leading with 9-2. Still others have a chance.

Makuuchi
Terutsuyoshi also managed a henka - leg grab combo. Was a bit difficult to finish it.
Tsurigisho held Midorifuji down well, but he had to try further, allowing Midori to move. Then was pulled down.
Kotoshoho also out with his stable.
Kotoeko too. Same stable.
Nishikigi was startin out with 8-2. And left the dohyo with 8-3. Important loss.
Tochinoshin vs Meisei - very energetic bout. It was good.
Great salto, Kiribayama! Good bout tho.
Ichonojo vs Abi - Shieeeeeeet. Abi almost salvaged it. Almost. Ichinojo has one more win 9-2.
Kotonowaka is out too, the same beya.
Takakeisho vs Tobizaru - another important bout for Tobizaru's 8-2. Takakeisho beat him in an exceting bout. Lost balance, almost stepped out, couldn't regain balance just redirect his path, but Takakeisho slapped him down.
Terunofuji vs Hoshoryu - Wow. Round and round. And round. In the end I thing Teru pushed unnecessarily. Hoshoryu made him run for his money tho. Very nice bout. 9-2.

So now Teru and Granma shares the top position. Takakeisho just one step behind, with others but I don't think they really count in this equation (as yesterday stated, and Kotonowaka is down for covid). Teru still not faced Takakeisho. Nor Shodai. Or rather they have not faced him. Both are beatable. Probably Tobizaru too has to go that way.


This covid thing doesn't make sense. They testing positive means they had it earlier, and with all the hugging it already should have infected everyone anyway.


Bernd 07/21/2022 (Thu) 19:40:07 [Preview] No.48345 del
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Day12

Juryo
Kaisho is out too. Hilarious. Noone will appear on the last day, they'll run out of Rikishis.
Enho went down. Aww shit. 5-7. He needs to win all the rest.
Hokuseiho was on the offense throughout. 9-3.
Easy win for Asanowaka against Kaisei. I don't think he really has the will anymore. He is old (not the oldest but still), maybe having health issues, I dunno.
Akua just run out with Mitoryu, was kinda funny.
Ryuden won. Hiradoumi tried, wasn't enough. So now Ryuden leads with 10-2. Hokuseiho is still a threat, but he is a newfag, Ryuden has the routine. 3 days left, it is unlikely that Ryuden will lose all, and an 8-4 will win all.

Makuuchi
Onosho, the locomotive. He decided to climb back in the rankings.
Tochinoshin channeled Nishikifuji's momentum and pushed him out quick. Nicely done.
Wow. Terutsuyosh got into trouble right at the behinning. Sadanoumi prevented the signature move leg grab, forces him down, then turned him back. Terutsuyoshi recovered from this, and had another chance. But Sadanoumi was just better.
Tobizaru vs Ichinojo - one important bout of the day. The size differene is striking. Tobizaru had one chance, for a moment Ichinojo showed his side. Otherwise not much. 10-2 Ichonojo.
Kiribayama handled Ura well.
Hoshoryu vs Hokutofuji - A quick hurling around, and Hokutofuji was ready to be pushed out. Nice win Hoshoryu. This technique should have a name. Probably it has an official one.
Abi done a short job on Wakamotoharu. The classic push upward first, then pull down as the other tries to move back down.
Another important bout: Takakeisho vs Nishikigi, both 8-3. Takakeisho the other train engine. This was expected.
Shodai saved his title. 8-4. Congrats. At the start of the tournament his form looked bleak. He recovered.
Terunofuji vs. Daieisho. Daieisho had a good chance to win, the balance of their previous meetings was 7-5. But Teru needed to win, and did quick. 10-2.

So the yokozuna is still head to head with Ichinojo. Only Takakeisho has a real chance now, beside those two. And not a bad chance to be honest. Teru's win aren't guaranteed. Which is good since that makes things more exciting. I remember in Forma 1 when always Schumacher won (and Baricello came in second) that was boring.


Bernd 07/22/2022 (Fri) 20:05:49 [Preview] No.48356 del
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Day 13

Juryo
Yago's brow got burst.
Whew, big pushypushy fight, Tochimari vs Tokushoryu.
Chiyonokuni vs Kotokuzan. Gyoji definitely lost this bout. Maybe Chiyonokuni gets 2 points?
Asanowaka good henka. Gonoyama has his 8 point anyway.
No Daishoho. Kaisei is getting a point out of mercy.
Atamifuji saved it, and turned it on Kagayaki.
Enho needs every points. And got one today.
Ryuden vs Hokuseiho. 10-2 vs 9-3. The two topmost players. On paper Ryuden should win. He got almost beaten soon, put out of the circle. Then deadlocked for long. Ryuden got hold well by Hokuseiho, but pushing him back little by little he won.
Now, if Ryuden loses both remaing bouts, and either Hokuseiho or Chiyosakae or both won theirs, would mean playoffs. But just one more win by Ryuden will secure his yusho.


Makuuchi
>Christian munk
Teru takes his dance very seriously. Not complaining.
Tsurugisho is out.
Oho could secure his place in Makuuchi with a win now. Terutsuyoshi however is a tricky opponent. Went for the leg now too, but Oho was ready, and handled him well. He stays for sure.
Midorifuji also had his 8th win. Danced on the rice bales. Very nice.
Chiyoshoma big henka.
Tobizaru is gone for the rest. Nishikifuji 9-4
Daiamami too.
Endo as well.
Shiieeet. And Tamawashi.
Nishikigi. Does this list never end? Important Ichinojo's getting one free point means 11-2 balance. Teru has to win to keep up
All Covid. All those people bought the ticket for watching nothing.
Hokutofuji vs Abi - potentially a good bout. Meh, Abi win easily and quick. Wasn't even spectacular or anything. His usual shtick, first push, then pull a bit as the opponent pushes himself forward, and let him fall.
Hoshoryu vs Wakamotoharu - Staring game, Hoshoryu always does this. I don't like it. He needs to be humiliated more. Not today tho.
Daieisho is out. He had bout with Teru yesterday. Will this mean Teru is out tomorrow?
Ozeki battle. Not so good tachi-ai. Takakeisho gained one point allowing him to stay in the race for the yusho.
Terunofuji vs Wakatakakage - Relatively rare oshidashi win by Teru. It's good he changes it up time to times.
So Teru, Ichinojo, Takakeisho is in the race. But it became important question, who will remain to see the end of the tournament? By this rate if Teru and Granma goes missing tomorrow, Myogiryu can also have a chance, not Nishikifuji because he is in the same beya a Teru, so if he is missing the other as well.


Bernd 07/23/2022 (Sat) 17:32:13 [Preview] No.48357 del
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Day 14

Juryo
Good try by Gonoyama. Got defeated by Hokuseiho. 10-4 If Ryuden wins, doesn't matter in the question of the championship.
Kaisei fought a visitor from Makushita, Kanno. He got henka'd.
And Tochimaru fought Roga. He won in big pushypushy battle against the junior westler.
Chiyosakai also started with 9-4. But Akua beat him, so he is surely out from the race to the top. Akua 7-7, needs one more win to climb a bit in the ranks. Or held his place, not sure.
Kotokuzan was matched with Kamito, also from Makushita. Slapdown.
Tokushoryu manhandled Yago a bit hard I think.
Enho vs Mitoryu - Mitoryu weigh almost exactly two Enhos. I don't think he fought with full conviction. He already had 8 points and Enho was missing two. He risked nothing if he put only half steam into it, and allowed Enho gaining one point, and a chance to maintain rank, in case he wins tomorrow.
Ryuden was fighting in Makuuchi today.

Makuuchi
Yeah, Onosho is better than Nishikifuji. Mandatory win.
Ryuden got Miyogiryu - They are fairly similar, weight, height, both were san'yaku. But during their meetins Miyogiryu got the upper hand more. Today Ryuden won, and secured the championship in Juryo.
Asanowaka was also up in Makuuchi. Got Terutsuyosh. And henka'd him. Hahahaha. That was funny. Got his own medicine.
Oho vs Midori - They know each other well from Juryo. Midori is beating Oho regularly. Today as well.
Hokutofuji got henka'd by Ura, but not that was the deciding move. But a push by Ura.
Meisei vs Ichinojo. And Meisei beat him! Very nicely I have to say. He is capable at beating Granma, the balance of their meetings is 7-4 now. Teru still have to win if he wants the title.
Watamotoharu vs Kiribayama. Mono-ii. I was expecting torinaoshi, and I got torinaoshi. They fell the same time. Wakamotoharu fought well, he is very persistent, and really tries. He got beaten, but just barely. He has to mature but will be a very good rikishi.
Hoshoryu and Tochinoshin staring bout before the bout. But Tochinoshin was ozeki... respect should have been given. Hoshoryu is better now. And eleven years younger. Tho let the old rikishi out somewhat elegantly.
Great move by Wakatakakage! Beat Takakeisho, avoided the impossible pushypushy game against him. Secured his rank, plus prevented Takakeisho to be a challanger.
Terunofuji vs Shodai. With every calculation Teru had to win this. But Shodai managed to just step out of his way. I laffed a bit to be honest. Both Ichinojo and Takakeisho still has a chance for the yusho after all.
Fun. Tomorrow will be exciting. Would be shame if fugging covid decided.


Bernd 07/24/2022 (Sun) 15:53:40 [Preview] No.48363 del
Day 15, the last one.

Juryo
Oki beat Yago. He's from Makushita, not sure what it means for Yago, since has bad balance (4-11), and is back in the rankings. Oki also had bad score.
Second bout Akiseyama and Tochimaru. Their situation is similar. No opponent left to face? Tochimaru has a very aggressive but fairly impotent pushypushy style.
Third deliquent Kaisei, also facing one from Makishita Chiyoarashi. Kaisei got a point. Finishes the basho at 5-10.
Enho has to win today. Kitanowaka resisted well, but fall onto face in the end. 8-7 Enho. I hope he can do better in the future.
Kotokuzan also needed one point. He could turn the tide and bring it back. Gonoyama lost.
Hokuseiho vs Bushozan (aka poor man's Takakeisho) - Hokuseiho did a very slow tachi-ai. Then yorikirid Bushozan. 11-4. Very good, congrats. He will jump a lot in the rankings.
Chiyosakae also first time in Juryo. Doing very well for now. Atamifuji has a habit of spreading his fingers during the sqatting phase, before tachi-ai. Anyway he secured his 8th point - he was very glad.
Bunch up in Makuuchi today. Ryuden included.

'Makuuchi
Exciting day. Many possible outcome.
Onosho got his 10th win. Jumping back up from M15
Ryuden vs Takarafuji. He was too much of a challenge for Ryuden.
Hokutofuji is out, one free point for Nishikifuji.
Okinoumi ditto. Chiyomaru 1 point.
Wakamotoharu gained a point. He is too much of a greenhorn still
Ura vs Ichinojo. Could go either way. Ichinojo brought it home. 12-3. Got even more exciting. Takakeshio is out, but if Teru wins, a final has to be fought for the title.
Kiribayama nice throw.
Meisei did not let Abi do his usual. And won.
Hoshoryu vs Midorifuji - Wow. Midori just beat him. That was quick. Hoshoryu seemed a bit abashed.
Wakatakakage vs Shodai - Great effort from both sides. Shodai executing a 10-5 balance by the end of the basho. Very nice.
Terunofuji vs. Takakeisho. The ozeki left to last as the opponent for the yokozuna. Oh noes Teru allowed Takakeisho to play his pushypushy game. Teru lost. No playoff against Ichinojo. Oh well.
Ichinojo yusho. Granma is the champion of Nagoya basho. He did perform well. His big size is a blessing and a curse. You need lots strength to move him, but he is kinda precarious in the ring.


Aki Basho 2022 Bernd 09/09/2022 (Fri) 20:42 [Preview] No.48711 del
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Here's September with the next tournament.

I have not read up about details such as injuries or covid. So just by looking at the banzuke I can't see many interesting things to mention.
Mitakeumi avoided to be relegated due to injury last time. So he is still ozeki, but he has to put himself there and perform to remain that.
We can hope the two younger sekiwakes, Wakatakakage and Hoshoryu will do good. But it is a lot of work still to reach the ozeki title.
Komusubi Kiribayama had two great tournaments before the last one, where he still pulled a positive balance. Maybe we can hope for a good show. He is pitched against Terunofuji in the first match.
I don't see any opponent facing Abi. Is he out for the tournament??
Two lightweights, Tobizaru and Midorifuji are ranked #1 among the Maegashira. Pretty good. I think they'll be removed.

In Juryo, have to watch for Hokuseiho. The tall guy.


Bernd 09/11/2022 (Sun) 14:39 [Preview] No.48724 del
I am yet again not going to make it at 6.30... don't know exactly when I will get home, I will only know an hour before (that's how long it takes to drive home)

>>48711
>In Juryo, have to watch for Hokuseiho. The tall guy.
And Kinbozan. The Kazakh dude.


Bernd 09/11/2022 (Sun) 15:34 [Preview] No.48725 del
>>48724
Oh well. Not a great start.
I'll still stream it on our cytube.
What's up with Kinbozan? Beyond he's a Kazakh.


Bernd 09/11/2022 (Sun) 16:06 [Preview] No.48726 del
Kinbozan studied in Japan and was university sumo champion, iirc.

I'll be home around 19.30 btw


Bernd 09/11/2022 (Sun) 16:09 [Preview] No.48727 del
I can wait until then. I've something to do.


Bernd 09/18/2022 (Sun) 18:52 [Preview] No.48762 del
Day 8 - Halfway through, just some highlights

Juryo
Not bad, Takakento. Good bout.
Hokuseiho vs Tochimusashi, 6-1 both. Started awkward, actually the whole thing looked a bit awkward. Very good ending, Hokuseiho brought it back from the rice bales, then instantly turned the tables over and won.
Daiamami vs Kinbozan. Daiamami got blodied? Or was that Kibozan's blood? Anyway congrats to the latter. Freshly in Juryo and pulling a good score for now.
Kagayaki vs Enho. Very nice. Enho performed as he should.
Churanoumi vs. Tohakury. Chura was at 6-1. Mono-ii. Tohakuryu won with a bit of luck. I'm glad tho, he isn't bad rikishi, and still young.
Bushozan hugging. That's rare. Chiyomaru just pulled him down.

Makuuchi.
Mitoryu vs Shimanoumi. Long bout, lots of struggle, deadlock. Good start. A bit simple finish.
Ryuden vs Hiradoumi. Ryuden clenched his opponent's arms tight. Towards the end Hiradoumi could save himself to be pushed out. But his effort was exploited and was pulled down.
Kotoshoho big fall, but not a nice win for Chiyoshoma. The point is a point.
Hahh. I thought Oho will be in trouble with Takanosho. But managed well, 6-2.
Wow, Nishikifuji basically lifted Tochinoshin out. He is a big guy tho, and Nishikigi is relatively short.
Wakamotoharu vs. Myoguryu. Torinaoshi!
Hokutofuji vs. Endo. Hokuto 7-0, important bout, he kept the winning streak, 8-0.
Tamawashi vs Sadanoumi. Tamawashi like a train engine on rails.
Tobizaru vs Ichinojo. Tobizaru got couple of good moments, and Ichinojo was basically fought defensively. In the end Tobizaru got him by the side and pushed him out. Not a bad bout.
Midorifuji vs. Kiribayama. Hahh! Even if Midori won't pull 8-7, his bouts very entertaining. Especially when he wins. Like now.
Ura vs. Hoshoryu. Nice oshidashi by Ura.
Takakeisho vs Takayasu. Wow. I expected a good bout, and got one. Takayas while engaged in pushypusyh, he could phase Takakeisho. But got tricked in the end. The ozeki knows his job.
Wakatakakage vs Mitakeumi. Twice, had to save himself Wakatakakage. Long pause. Mita couldn't save himself. He needs the points, 3-5. Last time he was saved by injury or civid maybe. If the doesn't reaches that 8-7, his ozeki title will be taken away.
Shodai sucks balls this basho. 1-7. Keks
Terunofuji vs. Nishikigi. They met twice 1-1. Teru needs the points. Rolllll. Good. A yokozuna has to win more, now 5-3.

Well, still another week, and many can catch up to Hokutofuji (8-0).
Haven't noticed but Ichinojo's standing is bad, 2-6.


Bernd 10/06/2022 (Thu) 16:50 [Preview] No.48913 del
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Terunofuji has serious knee problems, probably requires another surgery. Which could mean sitting out who knows how many tournaments. This sucks. Mostly for him ofc, but would be good to see him gaining couple more championships.
Plus, he is the only yokozuna now, and the rest do not have in them to reach the title. Not now.
https://mainichi.jp/english/articles/20221005/p2g/00m/0sp/049000c
https://english.kyodonews.net/news/2022/09/604fb72eaaef-sumo-yokozuna-terunofuji-withdraws-from-autumn-meet.html


Kyushu Basho 2022 Bernd 11/14/2022 (Mon) 18:21 [Preview] No.49207 del
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Forgot to post it, but watched the opening day yesterday.

No Terunofuji. Had that knee surgery. I hope he's gonna get well to win some more yushos.
In juryo Roga, Kinbozan, Tochimusashi, Hokuseiho, and Enho are the names to follow. I wouldn't mind Tohakoryu raking up a good score, he could advance to Makuuchi first time in his life.

In Makuuchi the top of the banzuke is broken a bit with Teru missing, and Mitakeumi losing his ozeki title. Now he shares the rank sekiwake with Wakatakakage and Hoshoryu. Both stable top players I think, and with effort could reach ozeki either. But neither has what it takes to be a yokozuna yet.


Bernd 11/16/2022 (Wed) 15:28 [Preview] No.49215 del
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I skimmed an article dedicated to the troubles of the top line of the banzuke. If Shodai can't get his shit together and gets relegated a situation can occur which has no previous example in the history of sumo.
It is mandatory to have at least two ozekis, to preserve the balance of the banzuke (if I understood right), when there is only one, the yokozuna can serve as a step-in ozeki.
- Now Teru is out with his injury, surgery, and recovery, so no yokozuna.
- Takakeisho seems to be solid, and have little danger him losing the title, so he is one ozeki
- Shodai performance is questionable, he gets kadoban so many times, has the risk of losing his ozeki rank, that it seems its just a matter of time he won't be able to course correct
- Mitakeumi lost the title, relatively quick after he gained it, and while he held it he wasn't that good. It is unlikely he will get better.
To become ozeki, one needs to rack up some serious winning balance, 30+ points, but at least 33 is preferred. That's 11-4 balances in three consecutive tournaments. Minimum.
The following rikishis do not have this shiny performance, although they aren't bad.
- Wakatakakage pulled a 12-3 in March, and 11-4 in September, but the two other tournament in between was just 9-6 and 8-7.
- Hoshoryu just breaking the balance: 8-7, 8-7, 9-6, 8-7 are the his most recent results.
One rank below there is:
- Tamawashi, who is getting old, he won the yusho last time with 13-2, which is very good. But before 5-8-2 (had to sit out 2 matches), 9-6, and 7-8 (going backwards in time)
- Kiribayama has some potential: 10-5 and 10-5 in March and May, but 8-7 in July, and 9-6 in September. Seems like Hoshoryu to me.
And below these blokes, just no.
Ryuden has impressive numbers: 13-2, 9-6, 12-3, 11-4... but with the exception of very last basho, he gained the rest of the victories in juryo. If he could maintain this form then sure, but that 9-6 isn't promising, and as he climbs in the ranks he has to face the top wrestlers. And I don't think he is that good.


Bernd 11/17/2022 (Thu) 18:19 [Preview] No.49221 del
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Day 5

Juryo
What's up with Daiamami? Can't squat.
Thochimusashi vs Choyonokuni - BAM. Like a train engine, Chyonokuni. Hilarious. Big claps by the audience.
Akua is still unbeated, Tsurigisho was up in Makuuchi and got his 5th win there.

Makuuchi
Oho vs. Kotoeko big battle, very good bout. Both had lost their footings during the struggle, but in the end Kotoeko was rolled out.
Onosho vs Chiyotairyu - great tachi-ai.
I'm glad Ryuden won, but Takarafuji is doing really bad this basho. His 5th loss.
Takayasu vs Tamawashi - the Great Battle of the Elders.
Tobizaru vs Mitakeumi - ton effort on behalf of Tobizaru, he made it not easy for Mita to win.
Midori vs Hoshoryu - I really laughed when saw the balance of their previous meeting (5-0 for Midori), and I was intrigued if Hoshoryu finally can beat him. It was a short, but entertaining bout, both fell on their backs.
Shodai continues to be kinda underwhelming. Maybe he can pull that positive balance in the end, but I would bet it will be a question till the very end.


Bernd 11/19/2022 (Sat) 17:44 [Preview] No.49228 del
Day 7

Juryo
Enho had long struggle. 5th victory.
Tochimusashi's ass is getting handed to him. 6th defeat.
Kotokzuan perhaps used a bit more force than he should have.
Hokuseiho vs Mitoryu. What a shitty tachi-ai. Perhaps both hurt (would explain the tachi-ai), but Hokuseiho is injured I bet.
Tsurigisho's winning streak was broken. Good job Chiyonokuni.
Akua shared the same fate, against Chiyomaru.
Now no unbeated left in Juryo, but this two still leads the leaderboard.

Makuuchi
Oho did good. 6-1. I think he has someting to do in Makuuchi, at least this performance preserves his place.
Kotoshoho beat Onosho well. Made him lose a pace, than pushed him down the clay.
Abi's bout against Takarafuji wasn't that good. It should have been more intense. But at least he recognized the moment when attacking more is unnecessary.
How Nikishifuji beat Tochinoshin was quite good too.
Hokutofuji vs. Ryuden. Big struggle. I think Hokutofuji does a more intense type of sumo that Ryuden can't handle. He might be better against "calmer" opponents.
Unusual Ichinojo bout, was forced to pushy pushy after Meisei fought his way out of the hug. Granma lost.
Takayas' 6-1.
Kiribayama is gonna be sekiwake.
Hoshory doing staring contest. 6-1. He is quite technical.
Whoaa. Midori henkad Takakeisho, but he did not take the bait. Even is Takakeisho is a one trick pony in general, he is ozeki for a reason.


Bernd 11/24/2022 (Thu) 18:18 [Preview] No.49311 del
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Day 12

Juryo
Enho failed this. Gonoyama grabbed the back of his neck and smashed him down onto the clay.
Akua and ridiculous slaps. With this win, Oshoma is now on equal level with Akua, 9-3.
Tsurigisho 9-3.
Very easy win by Hokuseiho. Tohakuryu did not know what to do. 9-3
This will be exciting. Behind these four Mitoryu, Daiamami, and Enho follows with 8-4. Still three bouts, so anything can happen. Will we see playoffs?

Makuuchi
Terutsuyoshi is getting his ass whoopped. No win in 12 bouts. Is he impaired somehow? Why not quit with injury?
Hokutofuji vs. Hiradoumi. Great wrestle. Had to mono-ii. I would have torinaoshi, I couldn't decide. But apparently Hiradoumi gained his 8th victory.
Ura was beaten again. At least he has 2 under his belt.
Takarafuji one for the honor. Now with Ichinojo and Ura, all has 2-10. They are generally strong contenders. What's happening?
One of the important matches: Takayasu vs Ryuden. Bear getting his 10th win!
Tamawashi got henkad by Endo.
Midori is getting in a tight spot. Needs two wins for positive balance, only three days left.
Oho vs Hoshoryu. Right now Hoshoryu is the leader of the basho, and Oho is new and young. AND HE WON!!!! Holy shit. Was very nice. Now Oho egalized, both of them 10-2. Very nice. I think Oho is a bit big guy for Hoshoryu to just move him about. He needs a different tactic, Oho defeated him twice beforehand in the past.
Abi henkad Wakatakakage hard. Abi 9-3.
Takakeisho vs Nishikifuji. Another important, both 8-3. The ozeki brought it home.
Kiribayama vs Shodai. Shodai failed. 5-7. He needs three wins to remain ozeki. I really have my doubts he can pull it together.
Realistically I think 6 rikishis are in the race for the yusho. Hoshoryu, Takayasu, and Takakeisho having the most chance. Exciting days are coming.


Bernd 11/27/2022 (Sun) 18:45 [Preview] No.49329 del
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Abi won his first yusho of his life. Congrats.
Takayasu, Takakeisho, and him gained a 12-3 score, so three way playoff followed the default bouts.
In the first round Takayas' faced Abi. Literally with full force into his chest, that KO-ed him. Was disoriented for minutes after. Poor old boy, he would have deserved the cup (too).
Abi then next round, did not allowed Takakeisho to "live", to apply his way of sumo, pushed him out quick.

In juryo Oshoma wont he championship.


Bernd 01/03/2023 (Tue) 14:57 [Preview] No.49581 del
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Sumo's coming to town on Sunday again.


Bernd 01/03/2023 (Tue) 19:46 [Preview] No.49582 del
everything about sumos
cool thread


Bernd 01/03/2023 (Tue) 19:57 [Preview] No.49583 del
>>49581
Sor this gonna be weird. Only one Ozeki. I assume Teru is also sitting it out as the sole yokozuna.
On the other hand 4 sekiwakes, and 4 komusubis (Wakamotoharu is in, approaching his brother one level up).
Other notable stuff. Shodai is down at Sekiwake, I think he has a chance to climb back, but if he fails to deliver, and he probably will... Mitakeumi the other ex-ozeki is back at Maegeshira 2. But at least Midorifuji is 3, Ryuden 5, and Oho is at 8! I'm glad for Oho. He's gonna have a hard time now, he'll get strong opponents. I think he is solid Makuuchi player from his performance so far.

In Juryo.
Hokuseiho will get a chance to get promoted to Makuuchi, awesome. I hope his leg/knee doing well. Enho is up at 4. Asanoyama the former ozeki will fight in juryo. He is vastly overpowered to those guys, he'll rip through them. The most probable jusho. Poor Terutsuyoshi is down there, after that shameful performance last basho. "Exotic" foreigners there: Kinbozan (Kazakh), and Roga (Russia).


Bernd 01/04/2023 (Wed) 20:57 [Preview] No.49586 del
>>49582
innit


Bernd 01/08/2023 (Sun) 19:43 [Preview] No.49609 del
2023 Hatsu basho day 1

I watch Sumo do sumo don't these days, and everyone is slim there. Weird seeing these fatsos now, although this is the normal.

Juryo
Takakento got Asanoyama as his first opponent. The ex-ozeki gave him space, and it seemed he can accomplish there something for a second, but he actually did not have a chance. Asanoyama knows how much he can allow.
Terutsuyoshi in juryo. Let's see if he can climb back to Makuuchi. Got beaten by Gonoyama. It did not look good, he was very static, passive. He can have an injury maybe.
Roga easy win.
Tochimusashi got henkad, then pushed out. Good job Chiyonokuni.
Kinbozan vs Kotokuzan. 1 for Kinbo.
Tohakuryu vs Enho. Enho is at #4. He failed his opening match. Kinda lost footing, and somewhat was pushed down. Well, unfortunate.
Hokuseiho vs Daiamami. Hokuseiho lost sadly. I don't think his legs/knees/ankles are all right. He looked he did his steps gingerly.

Makuuchi
No Terunofuji. Wonder how much it will take for him to recover from the surgery. I hope he will completely.
Ichinojo is out too. But there were some shenanigans. I kinda recall something from Tachi-ai blog.
Takarafuji managed to pull it and won. He is way way back in the banzuke, but he is better than that.
Tochinoshin won in long struggle against Chiyoshoma.
Aioyama big roll.
Oho vs. Onosho. Oho held himself well in a pushypushy battle. Onosho found the perfect moment to reach below his opponent's arm and push him back. This threw Oho out of balance, and made him lose the bout.
Ura was beaten by Myogiryu very fast. Unexpectedly. He just couldn't hold him up.
Nishikifuji vs Ryuden. Someone got bloody. Also mono-ii desu. While Ryuden fall first, Nishikifuji stepped out.
Midorifuji great win. Threw Sadanaoumi over.
Abi aggressive. Results came.
Tamawash and Kiribayama had to rematch. Second run the old guy won. Nicely too.
Ex-ozeki battle. Mita beat Shodai.
Takayas lost. Daieisho managed to get the initiative.
Hoshoryu the dynamite. Tobizaru was btfo-ed quick. Hoshoryu probably aims for the ozeki title. That needs lotsa wins. He has a chance.
The lonely ozeki Takakeisho did quick job on Wakamotoharu.

Uhh, interesting photo.


Bernd 01/09/2023 (Mon) 21:57 [Preview] No.49616 del
Day 2 was quite good.
Both Enho and Hokuseiho won in juryo. The latter did not seem to have problems with his leg. So I dunno.
Tobizaru beat Takakeisho. I hoped but didn't expected that. Also Hoshoryu seems very strong. And Takayas is getting beaten. Oh well.


Bernd 01/13/2023 (Fri) 10:33 [Preview] No.49628 del
Hoshoryu was beaten yesterday. Was somewhat a disappointment, but still 10 days till the end, he needs at least 6 to get a 10 point (7 would be better for 11), so he could march for that ozeki title on.


Bernd 01/17/2023 (Tue) 18:37 [Preview] No.49656 del
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Hoshoryu had to sit out today, but I read it on tachi-ai blog and Mainichi, that he'll be back on day 11. His ankle got hurt on day 9. Today should have fought with Kiribayama. I would have watched that very much. Oh well.
Meanwhile Takakeisho is 9-1, and probably short from stopping. He could be a candidate for the yokozuna title.


Bernd 01/22/2023 (Sun) 19:20 [Preview] No.49673 del
Day 15, closing bouts

Juryo
Asanoyama won the yusho in juryo yesterday. Isn't much of a surprise. I think he has to go another round to get back to Makuuchi, since he started from 12th place. He got Hokuseiho as last opponent, who is big but not very experienced or skillful. He got beaten by the ex-ozeki. Still 9-6 to him too, and will move up to Makuuchi from the 2nd place. This match with Asanoyama got him a taste what he can expect from the grown ups.
Terutsuyoshi got beaten by a bloke from Makushita. Shamefur dispray. He either lost his mojo, or has health problems, srsly.
Roga vs Gónoyama. Latter was unstoppable. Both ended up with 9-6. Which isn't bad.
Daishoho 12-3
Shonannoumi got his 12th win too, over Kinbozan, who did good generally all basho and finished with 11-4.
Enho. This bout decided if he could get in Makuuchi, since gathered 7 wins and 7 losses up to this day. And he couldn't. Lost the bout, got flattened in the ring, pushed down by Hideonumi, who secured kachi-koshi with this win.
Bushozan got blodied how Takakeisho do.

Makuuchi
Takakeisho or Kotoshoho? That was the main question. For the ozeki to win the yokozuna title, it is imperative to win championships.
Poor Oho, with 3-11. He got beaten left and right. Got Kagayaki as opponent, and beat him with intense fight, righting up the result to 4-11. Kagayaki left with 7-8. Not sure if he gets relegated from the 12th. I don't think so. But he has to remain strong next basho.
Haha, those Ura fans with Ura fans.
Midorifuji got lost to Mitoryu. Maybe the little man got tired by the end. 6-9. Gonna step down a few. But solid Makuuchi material.
Abi kachi-koshi.
Tobizaru kachi-koshi.
Wakamotoharu, elegant win. 9-6.
Kiribayama vs Ryuden. I waited for this. Kiribayama got his 11th win, and he will certainly advance to sekiwake. Needs another two 10+ winning bashos to get ozeki. I'm not sure he has that in him. Ryuden will also advance up a couple of steps. 9-6.
Shodai will fall further, now from sekiwake.
Hoshoryu vs. Onosho. Hoshoryu needed an 8th win. It went to mono-ii, it looked like hairpulling, and indeed they decided hansoku (disqualification) against Onosho, Hoshoryu got his 8th win. Sad he had to get it like that, and couldn't win straightforward. But his ankle injured some days back. I hope it won't have long lasting effect.
Wakatakakage got into an intense fight. Very nice.
And now about the last one. Both rikishis were at 11-3. Takakeisho aggressively attacked and a quickly went for a big throw by the arm, sukuinage finishing move. Short bout but it was spectacular. He showed on at least 3 occasions he can win differently than just pushy-pushy. Still that will remain his main weapon forever I think. He is a one and a half trick pony.


Bernd 01/22/2023 (Sun) 19:28 [Preview] No.49674 del
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Oh shid I forgot.


Bernd 01/23/2023 (Mon) 10:09 [Preview] No.49675 del
I'm thinking about this hairpull Onosho pulled. I have the suspicion he did this intentionally to allow Hoshoryu to win one and remain in position as sekiwake or at least to not break the winning streak. The yusho already was gone for Onosho, so not much depended on the last win anymore. Were he told to disqualify himself, or did he do it on his volition? Was it premeditated, or suddenly thought no way Hoshoryu could win this and felt generous?
The sekiwake suffered an ankle injury as previously noted, against Wakamotoharu, and he lost 4 matches out of 5 after that. He could have had a way better run than that.


Bernd 01/31/2023 (Tue) 11:43 [Preview] No.49740 del
Hakuho had his top-knot cutting ceremony signalling his retirement, on Saturday (Jan 28th). Apparently 280 people participated, each cutting one lock. Below article, and a half an hour video showing a part of the event. Other rikishis were participating, I saw Terunofuji, Takakeisho, Shodai, Enho, and Hokuseiho (the latter two are from his beya/stable)

https://mainichi.jp/english/articles/20230128/p2g/00m/0sp/042000c
https://invidious.snopyta.org/watch?v=N7jTd1wzXWw
https://youtube.com/watch?v=N7jTd1wzXWw [Embed]


Bernd 03/08/2023 (Wed) 20:28 [Preview] No.49938 del
After a lot of fan channels were wiped, NattoSumo3 (new channel) is now back up on youtube. Hopefully it survives.


Bernd 03/09/2023 (Thu) 19:27 [Preview] No.49939 del
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March Tournament starts this Sunday!
I doubt Terunofuji recovered already. I think it would be better to recover fully than to push it and get hurt. IF can recover fully.
So probably Takakeisho will be a ronery ozeki still. He has to push on and win. He is consistently able to gain +10 victories, so I think he can get the yusho. That would be the second in a row. I bet he'll try everything, he will give everything he has, I expect good bouts will close each day.
Three sekiwakes, Wakatakakage, Hoshoryu, Kiribayama. Perhaps Hoshoryu has the most potential, he is the youngest of the three, hopefully a long career still in front of him, last time an injury prevented him from getting that 10+ wins. Who will be the next ozeki?
One step below Wakamotoharu catching up with his borther. Tobizaru is there too, facing tough opponents I doubt he will stay.
Further down Abi might rise, but I think for Ryuden that's about the top.
Towards the end of the banzuke we find Kinbozan and Hokuseiho, fresh from juryo, how they'll fare here? And then Oho is still in, I hope he can improve.

In Juryo Asanoyama is at the top, he'll win ofc. Unless Ichinojo - who fell out from Makuuchi - can stop him in this. Or maybe Tochinoshin.

>>49938
I'm worried there won't be any uploads.


Bernd 03/14/2023 (Tue) 18:04 [Preview] No.49958 del
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Haru basho day 3

Juryo
Ochiai is interesting jumping into Maegeshira due to amateur sumo, and now racking up the score in juryo, the second one today. He looks strong and has some skills.
It isn't going well for Tochimusashi.
Atamufuji really tried, and was stronger. But fell first, was directed away.
Diamami vs Enho. The previous still can't squat. First win for Enho!!!! He tried to pull him down, did not manage, then tried to pushed him out, it worked.
Chiyomaru vs Roga. It wasn't straightforward for Roga, but managed.
Chiyonokuni vs. Ichinojo. Considering the first one was also high up in Makuuchi, Ichinojo did good job. His 3rd win.
Asanoyama vs. Tohakuryu. What a bout! Tohakuryu started strong, surprised the ex-ozeki. He recovered then after a bit of chase he pushed T. out of the dohyo. Looked quite funny.
5 spotless 3-0.


Makuuchi
Tochinoshin is up in Makuuchi today. Lost against Chiyoshoma. Oh well.
Oho vs. Bushozan. I was hoping for an Oho win. He tired out from the relentless pushypuhy attacks of Bushozan. Sad. It won't be any easier for Oho. From previous matches it seems for me he lost some muscles, getting weaker.
Hokuseiho won against Kinbozan. Good.
Hiradoumi vs. Ura. Very nice bout! Great struggle.
Takayas' won his 8th win against Sadanoumi in the chain of their fights. He never managed to beat Bear.
Midori is stronk.
Mita was almost thrown by the arm by Wharu. Almost.
Perfect henka by Tobizaru. Nishikigi went down quick.
Just like with Oho, I hoped a Ryuden win, but did not get it.
Hoshoryu did great save. From the brink of the dohyo turned the table. His first win on this basho. He usually beats Kotonowaka. So maybe not a surprise.
Kiribayama elegantly channeled Tamawashi's momentum and rolled him out. Nice.
A well performing Shodai vs. Takakeisho with yokozuna aspirations. 6-13 was their balance. Maybe this was a big clue how this will end. Takakeisho won with pushypushy.


Bernd 03/21/2023 (Tue) 20:24 [Preview] No.49982 del
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Day 10

Juryo
Three rikishis with 8-1, two veterans - Asanoyama, Ichinojo - and a fresh meat - Ochiai. Who will be able to hand on today?
In the lower ranks, quite ok matches they are trying.
Ochiai vs. Atamifuji. Atami isn't that easy opponent, they did not get into long deadlocks, both were activly trying to break it. Atamifuji rolled Ochiai out in the end. I think Ochi tired out and couldn't correct in the end. Atami was very pleased when watching back the footage. Ochiai 8-2.
Tochimusashi vs Daiamami. Another long bout, but lotsa standstills. Tochi won.
Ichinojo vs. Roga. Paperform. Ichinojo 9-1.
Oshoma vs Tochinoshin. The veteran hurt his shoulder. Too bad. He started out well. Oshoma took the tachiai carefully.
Asanoyama vs. Enho. The match many waited for. Many cheered for Enho from the audience, they were very audible. Enho was very energetic and Asanoyama had to catch up to hold him down. Both fell but Enho was below. Asanoyama 9-1.
Btw. Gonoyama catched up to Ochiai, 8-2.

Makuuchi
Midori still standing unbeaten 9-0 at the start.
I thought Tohakuryu stepped out before he stepped out, but he was only on the straw.
Oho fell forward. Too bad. He's getting beaten too frequently. He needs 4 moar wins to stay in. He is too strong for Juryo however.
Takarafuji vs Bushozan. LÖL
Hokuseiho vs. Ura. The latter is obviously more skilled, but Hokuseiho is big. Took long time for this bout the play out. One more win for Hokuseiho.
Kinbozan vs. Takayasu. Another beginner vs veteran matchup. It did not end well for Takayas'. Still 7-3, he has a good chance to rack up good score.
Was rooting for Ryuden who performs bad on this basho. But Tamawashi as well has a bad balance. Both started 1-8. This time Tamawashi had the chance to gain one for the honor.
Midorifuji vs. Tobizaru. Thought disgonbegud. Diswuzntdisappointingatleast. Wasn't that spectacular but wasn't bad. And most importantly Midori has one more point under his panty. He has a good chance to become the champion of this basho. 10-0.
Kiribayama lifting Mita out. Kiribayama stronk!
So. Midori leads by 2 full points in fron of Daieisho, Kotonowaka, and Endo. I think all has the chance for catching up, especially the komusubis. And there are still some high ranking rikishis with 7-3, plus Takayas.
Ryuden with disappointing 9-1 at the end of the list.


Bernd 03/27/2023 (Mon) 09:32 [Preview] No.50025 del
Yesterday Haru basho was concluded. I think couple of noteworthy things to mention.

First Ichinojo managed to beat Asanoyama in the race for juryo yusho. Which might not have been an actual race for them, juryo probably doesn't feel much of a thing. Their aim is the top ranks of makuuchi.
Ochiai, the fresh meat, started out quite well, reaching 10 wins. On the last day he had to face Asanoyama, and put up a good fight, the ex-ozeki had to work hard for their point. Ochiai has great promise, the is well rounded - not just in waist girth, but in skills, he is able to use different techniques and can defend against different ones. I think Slov said, he was amateur champion.

In Makuuchi, first and foremost I want to express my disappointment in Ryuden's performance. He got beaten 13 times. Will fall far back from his place at Maegeahira 2. He isn't that good obviously, but I expected something better. Oh well.
With Takakeisho suffering another injury, his dreams to become yokozuna have to be put on ice for a bit. Maybe one day. But supposedly Terunofuji is back from May, so it will be harder to win those yusho's that needed for the title of grand champion.
Hokuseiho's 9-6 score means climbing up in the ranks, that's good. But he is not that good, the boys in the upper ranks will beat him. He is quite stationary, and can't lower his center of gravity. He could compensate with strength, but packing muscle needs time.
Oho got it bad, only 7-8. From M15 he will fall back to juryo I suspect. He is strong for that, so gonna be back in makuuchi soon.
Shodai 10-5, gonna be back in sanyaku ranks. Takayasu I think is too old now to reach higher titles. Midorifuji will always be too small and light for the largest rikishis. He is great entertainment tho. Hoshoryu needs to learn humility, he is very good fighter, he puts in everything. Kinbozan is a promising youth, seems better than Hokuseiho, at least got better results. Wakamotoharu caught up with his brother. This will be interesting.
And for the yusho. Congrats Kiribayama! He had to beat the main contender Daieisho twice to become the champion. He is a sekiwake, and got his second double digit win in a row (11-4, 12-3). If he is able, then in May could reach the ozeki title, which would finally solve the lonely ozeki problem of the banzuke. Could he keep the title however? He also doesn't seem like a yokozuna material, but can never know. Takakeisho is neither, but has the chance.


Bernd 05/06/2023 (Sat) 08:37 [Preview] No.50195 del
Ichonojo is retiring for back injury/pains.
Video by Chris Sumo:
https://yewtu.be/watch?v=7l28Em94LGg
https://youtube.com/watch?v=7l28Em94LGg [Embed]


Bernd 05/06/2023 (Sat) 12:37 [Preview] No.50196 del
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Natsu Basho starts on May 14th.

At the top of the banzuke, both Terunofuji and Takakeisho are recovering from injury, both are in risk of re-injury, which could force Teru to retire, and Takakeisho to lose his ozeki title. He also needs to perform well due to his kadoban status. It could happen there will be no ozekis after this basho.
BUT, there is Kiribayama, with a 11-4 and 12-3 wins on the ozeki run, if he is able to pull 10 wins he will be promoted!

What's other interesting tidbits?
Wakamotoharu is now above in the rankings of his brother Wakatakakage.
Midorifuji is at #1 Maegeshira. The tiny man performs well. But he's gonna get harder opponents now.
Kinbozan is at #5, he is new to Makuuchi, and upcoming talent.
Oho is at the end of the list.
Asanoyama is back in Makuuchi, and probably will gain many wins.

In Juryo Tochinoshin is still hanging on.
It would be worth to pay attention to Ochiai, if he can continue with good performance.
There is Roga and Enho close to the top.

Very excite.


Bernd 05/25/2023 (Thu) 11:36 [Preview] No.50297 del
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Day 12

Juryo
Both Ochiai and Gonoyama took a point home. Head to head.

Makuuchi
Mitoryu vs. Takarafuji - long struggle and torinaoshi! Then Takarafuji did short job. I guess Mitoryu got tired.
Oho vs. Onosho - Oho won! His 8th win. Takanosho isn't an easy opponent, but I think he is injured or under the weather or something.
Hiradoumi really fights in good spirit whole basho. He would deserve that kachi-koshi, I hope he can win one more.
Ryuden got outed again. Not pulling a good form.
Tobizaru vs. Ura - What a BOUT! It was their version of deadlock. A very active and intense deadlock. Spectacular.
Takayas' vs. Midorifuji - The Bear had to miss most matches, yesterday he was back, and won. Now the tiny one finished the match quick. When Takayas changed hands he was pushed out of balance and out of the dohyo.
Daieisho vs. Asanoyama - Wow Daieisho! Great show! Teru will have a hard job when they face. Asa still at 10-2.
Hokuseiho vs. Hoshoryu - Hokuseiho weighing on, but Hoshoryu pulled out from the hug and made him lose footing. As the Big Lad turned to side, and back, he really just gave up and walked out. THis was their first bout.
Kiribayama vs. Takakeisho - K is on ozeki run at 9-2 at the beginning of the bout. He grabbed Takakeisho and got that 10th win! He probably is now ozeki, well by next tournament. But seeing one more win would be cool. He has 3 more days to pull that feat.
Terunofuji vs. Wakatakakage - Wtage lost to Teru twice, one was the bout with the rearranging. I like his attitude, he is humble, still a good rikishi. And he was on the offense from the start, till his fall. Teru won but he also had to step/fall from the dohyo, seemed hard on his knees. I hope he is ok. 11 wins, and on top of the list.

With 10-2 Kiribayama and Asanoyama follows. Surprisingly Tsurigisho with 9-3 is #4. Three more days and I see little chance that anyone with 8-4 catching up, that would need Teru to lose three times. I assume he will face Daieisho, Kiribayama and Asanoyama in the coming days. Yeah, starting with Asa tomorrow. Excite.


Bernd 05/26/2023 (Fri) 17:33 [Preview] No.50299 del
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Day 13

Juryo
First bout, Kawazoe did good. He is also a tiny guy, bit heavier than Enho, from Makushita division. From Miyagino stable.
Atamifuji 11-2. Keeps up with Gonoyama and Ochiai.
Haha, Akua took Terutsuyoshi's antics on, throwing salt high. Not that large amount, but still, a good handful.
Roga got his 8th.
Oshoma vs Shimanoumi - breddy gud bout, great struggle. Latter won, 8th win.
Tohakuryu got henkad badly by Hideonumi. Or well, depending.
Azumaryu started out with a henka, then held up well, but lost in the end. His 11th loss.
Ochiai vs. Shonannoumi. Ochiai failed the first tachi-ai, but won the bout. At the end was funky, because Shonannoumi thought he already lost, but he wasn't out, so Ochi had to push him, and he fell hard. He might have felt it unnecessary, although it had to happen. 12-1!
Gonoyama vs. Shimazuumi. Gonoyama fell. Onto Shumazuumi. 12-1!


Makuuchi
Aoiyama vs Oho. Oho won his 9th against the big guy. Well Oho also big, but yeah.
Takayas is still injured. Not sure why he returned. Maybe finishing in the dohyo expands his career.
Kinbozan's meetings with the top guys don't work out for him much.
Tsurigisho vs Wakamotoharu. Tsu climbed high for this quick beating. Wharu threw him a slap at tachi-ai, then pulled him down by the arm.
Mita barely saved this.
Poor Hiradoumi. Hoshoryu +1.
Oooo. Kiribayama vs Hokuseiho. Hoshoryu figured out the big guy, we'll see if Kir can do it too. Long bout. Hokuseiho weighed on Kir, and managed to avoid tripping in his leg too. At the end, he went down in a successful tripping effort. Big fall. Kiribayama 11-2! He is ozeki it's sure as hell.
Meisei vs. Takakeisho. The ozeki needed his 8th and secured it with a lightning quick henka.
And the big match! Terunofuji vs Asanoyama. The balance of their previous meetings was 5-0. Whoa. Asa wen on the offense, Teru held himself, then directed Asa to the side and pushed him down by the arm. It looked relatively easy. Teru has problems with the smaller more mobile guys, like Daieisho.

So. Two more days, two more points.
In theory Asanoyama still has a chance. Tomorrow he faces Shodai, which should be straightforward but can never know with that one. Teru will meet Kiribayama. I don't expect it to be that easy win. So a possibility Asa gaining 1 and Tero not, placing the yusho in Asanoyama's reach. But then Kiribayama would equalize with Teru with 12 win. And then on the last day, both should lose and Asa win for playoffs.
If Teru wins tomorrow then it's decided, he will be the champion of this basho. Simple.


Bernd 05/28/2023 (Sun) 17:20 [Preview] No.50308 del
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Day 15

Juryo
Started out with some rikishis visiting from Makushita.
Yuma had a quick but intereting bout, right after tachi-ai he had his chance. Tsushimanada could hold himself, and turned the tables quick.
Shishi is a Ukrainian fella, as "Westerners" he is a big lad 192cm tall. Has weight too, especially compared to his opponent Tokihayate. He won 6-1. I assume he starts in Juryo next time.
Third is Ryuo, at Makushita #3, but had 1-6 balance. He lost again. Daiamami is big and has routine.
Important bouts:
Atamifuji vs. Chiyosakae. The latter ain't too skillful, and Atami got his 13th win! Had a chance for yusho depending on two other fights.
Oshoma vs. Ochiai. Latter starting from 13-1 and adding one more to that. 14! Atamifuji is out of the race (13 wins are still nice), and Gonoyama has to score one to challange Ochi in playoff.
Gonoyama vs Kitanowaka. Big henka done by Kitanowaka, and then Gonoyama saved the match twice more! Then pushed out Kitano from the dohyo.
Playoff!
Gonoyama vs Ochiai. They faced each other earlier, the former taking the point home. Short relentless pushy-pushy offense on behalf of Gonoyama decided the outcome. He won, Juryo yusho is his.


Makuuchi
In this division the yusho was decided yesterday when yokozuna Terunofuji beat sekiwake Kiribayama in a lengthy bout. It was quite good, Kiribayama avoided getting hugged, but Teru waited out his chance patiently.
So.
Hokuseiho vs. Kagayaki. The veteran beat the greenhorn. Still 7-8 and I think he faces relegation.
Ryuden vs. Kotoeko. Sadly Ryuden lost again, on the plus side, Kotoeko got his kachi-koshi, 8-7. Kotoeko isn't among the best rikishi but always fights in good spirit, and gives in everything he has.
Another rikishi like that is Hiradoumi. He had the 9th win, he's position was safe.
Tobizaru vs. Tamawashi. What an intense bout! And in the end Tobizaru was rightfully happy.
Oho vs. Midorifuji. Oho is having a good run this basho. But Midori is quite skillful and strong relative to his size. Long bout with different techniques thrown in. With long deadlock. Where the Big Lad pulled down to the clay the Tiny One. 11th win, Oho.
The battle of the two ex-ozekis: Shodai vs. Mitakeumi. Mita seems recovering, pocketing his 9th win.
Important bout: Kiribayama vs. Hoshoryu. K on ozeki run, and while it seems he gathered enough points I think it would mean much if he could beat all the other sekiwakes. Hoshoryu is skillful, and won in a raltively short, but interesting bout. He managed to grab Kiribayama's mawashi, both hands with strong grip, and lifted him up and throw him down the ground. K really dun goofed this one.
Terunofuji vs Takakeisho. Takakeisho did not have much chance. At least he already had his 8th win, safe from demotion. He fell on his legs, I hope his knees hold, he walked away relatively fine. A nice return for the yokozuna with solid 14-1 wins.

See you in July.


Bernd 06/04/2023 (Sun) 18:21 [Preview] No.50328 del
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It's done. Kiribayama is officially ozeki. He took a new shikona, so from now on he is Kirishima. Sounds gay to be honest, previous name was better, but it's his business.
Now balance is restored in the ozeki rank, Takakeisho managed to hold on to the title.
As a novelty Shishi is up in Juryo for the first time. He is a big lad as I previously noted.


Bernd 07/01/2023 (Sat) 16:17 [Preview] No.50583 del
I have some news regarding Tochinoshin's what now - he gave an interview for Nikkan Sports & he founded a company (with friend) for importing Georgian food (he mentioned wine and honey) to Japan.
https://www.nikkansports.com/battle/sumo/news/202306190000700.html

>>50328
Kirishima was his stablemaster's shikona. Supposedly it was decided long ago that he takes it if he makes ozeki.


Bernd 07/09/2023 (Sun) 08:07 [Preview] No.50637 del
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Nagoya basho starts today! Started actually.

Teru rules still alone, last time won the yusho with an impressive 14-1 balance. He was recovering from injury, I hope he is more stable and stronger than before.
The balance in ozeki ranks is restored. But things are getting out of hand here I think all sekiwakes are on the ozeki run. 33 points in 3 consequent bashos needs to be won. All three sekiwakes has the chance, but all has some challenges and shortcomings.
Hoshoryu - 10-5, 11-4, he needs at least a 12 point win.
Daiesho - has a 10-5 record as Maegeshira which isn't count, then 12-3 as komusubi which should count, and then 10-5 as sekiwake. I think he has the best chance, if he can pull a 11+ point win.
Wakamotoharu - 11-4, 10-5, ne also needs at least 12 points, started the run as komusubi.
I highly doubt all three will succeed with the points but if they do... there will be a demand-supply inbalance in ozekis, just the other way around.
What esle can be told?
Hokuseiho at maegeshira 6th, jumped a lot, but Kinbozan fell back to 10. Wakatakakage has to climb back to the top from #12, ouch. Ryuden, Takarafuji, Endo and Aoiyama are surprisingly back. But new guys rising in the ranks, Gonoyama, Shonannoumi, and Hakuoho/Ochiai are up in makuuchi. Will see how they fare. Hakuoho is pgood, no doubt, just a beginner among pros, will he handle the pressure?

In juryo: Shishi is in form Ukraine, and Enho is down. He is now down in makushita #1 West, due to injury he fared badly on the last tournament. I have little hope in him to recover his position (from the injury sure).

>>50583
DeepL translation:
>He also gave a shout-out to the three sekiwake who will be ozeki-ranked at the Nagoya tournament (first day, 9 July, Dolphins Arena): Toyoshoryu, Daieisho and Waka Motoharu.
>Toyoshoryu
Keksimus.
He's getting grey.
>-When we said goodbye to Maage...
>Tochi: We've been together for 17 and a half years. I'll miss him, but I'm also looking forward to shampooing him, because it will be easier.
What?
>Kirishima was his stablemaster's shikona.
Thanks, I did not know.


Bernd 07/23/2023 (Sun) 18:13 [Preview] No.50729 del
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Nagoya basho day 15!

This day promised to be exciting.
Juryo
Three 10-4 primary candidates for the yusho, Atamifuji, Daiamami, and Tomokaze. But four more with 9-5 also with chance.
Their hopes disappeared when Daiamami won against Shishi (who also reached kachi koshi earlier, 9-5, rising in the ranks). Daiamami won relatively easily. 11-4.
Kitanowaka beat Tomokaze removing one contender from the race. He was quite resolute.
Tohakuryu won with nicely performed henka.
Akua vs. Atamifuji. For Akua this bout meant getting a positive balance. For Atamifuji a chance for yusho. Akua seemed to run out of stream soon then was thrown down to the ground. He expressed his displease by striking the dohyo, among loud feedback from the audience.
Very intense fight between Churanoumi vs Kagayaki. The former won. Good bout.
Sandanme playoff was cool, good bout again. I don't know these guys, they looked relatively young. Wakaikari won.
And the final between Atamifuji and Daiamami. A brief deadlock was decided by a big push by Atamifuji, pushing out far his opponents from the ring, into the crowd.


Bernd 07/23/2023 (Sun) 18:24 [Preview] No.50730 del
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Makuuchi.
Three rikishis with 11-3: Hoshoryu, Hokutofuji, and Hakuoho. Today the first and the last will face each other. The three osumosan with 10-4 has no chance because of these two, since one of them will win inevitably, gaining the 12th points unreachable for the 10-4 ones.
Roga is up in Makuuchi today. He needs a spot in there for next basho. He fought against Daishoho twice and lost. Just as now. Kinda disappointing.
Gonoyama vs Tamawashi. Gonoyama had high hopes, and he is good. Good enough to defeat the veteran now. 10th win, which is very good for a beginner in Makuuchi.
Bushozan vs. Oho. Neither had a good run, I'm hoping Oho'll get his shit together. Got another point against the badly performing Bushozan.
Hiradoumi was out for his last bout. His left leg injured, said Nattosumo. Sad. He is an energetic and enthusiastic rikishi.
Kinbozan vs Meisei. Kinbozan is also a relatively newcomer with high hopes. But Meisei also needed 1 point to get that 8-7 balance. And he got it.
Midorifuji vs Hokuseiho. Started with brief pushypushy battle, not characteristic for Hokuseiho at all. Then the tiny Midori threw the big guy in an impressive arch. I'm suspecting monkey business, but I'm not bothered by it if it was.
Important bout: Nishikigi vs Hokutofuji. Previously Nishikigi led the toplist for a while, in good form, but to the last bouts he run out of steam. Hokutofuji gained the 12th point necessary for yusho.
Asanoyama vs. Wakamotoharu. Asa needed the 8th, and a win against a sekiwake always promises good things. He just might return to the top ranks. Wharu with 9 point... has to start the ozeki run again.
Daiesho failed to get his 10th point, ending his ozeki run too.
And what everybody as waiting for: Hoshoryu vs. Hakuoho. The ozeki candidate and the rising star. Hakuoho did not entered the stare-down, albeit looked back stern as he had to. Hoshoryu won quick by gaining a firm grip on Hakuoho's mawashi, then throwing him down the clay.
Abi vs. Kirishima. The ozeki couldn't hold himself against the pushes of Abi, who finished the bout unorthodoxly for himself.
And the great finale: Hoshoryu vs Hokutofuji playoff. Wasn't a very good bout. Hoshoryu won comfortably. But I think he got one onto the nose. Or perhaps he got very emotional, almost crying he seemed. I wouldn't be surprised since he got the 12th point needed for his ozeki title, and cemented it by winning the yusho. Congratulations!


Bernd 07/23/2023 (Sun) 18:35 [Preview] No.50731 del
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Yeah, in the yusho interview he was asked about it, and he said he acknowledge he was crying a bit. To be honest it's a good to see this side, because of his attitude he goes into the staredowns. And I don't mean the emotional side, but that he can handle a bit humility and can be humble, balancing out the overconfident cockiness.


Bernd 07/26/2023 (Wed) 17:26 [Preview] No.50751 del
Is official now.


Bernd 07/26/2023 (Wed) 17:33 [Preview] No.50752 del
>>50751
I hope he won't change his name. Even if he reaches yokozuna title. Btw for that he essentially needs 2 consequent yushos, no? Is it possible that if he wins the next one, he'll be promoted? Or he has to win as ozeki, so the nagoya basho doesn't count?
Your opinion about the last day?


Bernd 07/26/2023 (Wed) 17:56 [Preview] No.50753 del
>>50752
He probably won't change his name. He has good continuity from his uncle Asashoryu, it'd be foolish to change now.
Last day was breddi gud! We got the playoffs, Asanoyama got his kachi-koshi despite rekt biceps, shame about both other sekiwakes losing for a 9-6 score – I would consider their ozeki run is now back to zero.


Bernd 09/07/2023 (Thu) 18:33 [Preview] No.50999 del
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Aki basho is starting on Sunday!
I think we can expect Terunofuji fighting, and the injured ozekis, Takakeisho and Kirisihima. At least they were at least they did training matches in this public viewing event:
https://invidious.protokolla.fi/watch?v=WmvaBfTKBJk
https://youtube.com/watch?v=WmvaBfTKBJk [Embed]
Tho it seemed Teru walked kinda gingerly.


Bernd 09/08/2023 (Fri) 18:54 [Preview] No.51005 del
In case anyone wanna join: we're watching the bouts on Endcorner at 18:00 basically every day in the next two weeks, starting on Sunday.
https://cytu.be/r/endcorner


Bernd 09/08/2023 (Fri) 18:54 [Preview] No.51006 del
That is in Central Euro time zone.


Bernd 09/11/2023 (Mon) 16:13 [Preview] No.51012 del
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Another young talent that may be worthy to give attention: Onosato.
He is 23 and won all kind of championships in uni and amateur sumo. He joined the pro ranks in May, and had two bashos in Makushita. 6-1 and 4-3 results, not very shining, but now he is in juryo, and started out with two solid wins. Maybe he'll pull it off and get a good result - a close yusho balance would suffice...


Bernd 09/11/2023 (Mon) 17:42 [Preview] No.51013 del
Day 2

Makuuchi
Takayas' vs Ryuden and Kotonowaka vs Asanoyama bouts were great. Also Hokuseiho carrying out Endo, classic Teru move.
I did not expect Hokutofuji win over Hoshoryu.


Bernd 09/12/2023 (Tue) 16:53 [Preview] No.51017 del
Day 3
Whew, that match between Hokutofuji and Kirishima! Hokutofuji is very fast now, Kirishima was one step behind all the way. He had good run in previous basho as well.
Oh lawdy! Tobizaru beat Hoshoryu! At tachi-ai Tobizaru moved in instead of being careful as usual, but Hoshoryu was slow to push forward because he expected monkey business. Then Tobizaru pulled on Hoshoryu and moved out of his way then pushed him out of the dohyo was very nice.


Bernd 09/17/2023 (Sun) 17:04 [Preview] No.51029 del
Day 8

Juryo
Onosato is unstoppable now. He beat his way through the lower ranks. He has to face the upper ones, there ought to be a couple of veterans who will beat him.
Either way he has an excellent chance to be the champ.

Makuuchi
Shiiiiiiiiiiiiit. Big henka by Chiyoshoma. Did it masterfully and exploited it further to win.
Hokuseiho did something of a henka, stepped sideways instead of going in. He rarely does that. It worked out.
Takayasu vs Mitakeumi was a good long bout, with Takayas pushing down his opponent to the ground by the head and arm. Good sumo.
Awkward tachi-ai, Hokutofuji. I think he thought gyoji will call it, instead of letting it go.
Takanosho finished Kirishima decisively. Took the initiative right after the start.
Ura beat Hoshoryu. He is over 30 but he still has in him to beat the young lions.
And with Tobizaru beating Takakeisho - exchanging slaps, and parrying over and over - all three ozekis failed today. Hilarious.
Takanosho, Ura, Tobizaru, good for you.
And this means Takayasu took a step away from them, having 7-1, while the ozekis are down to 5-3 (well, Hoshoryu 3-5!). Atamifuji is keeping up 7-1, but he is at M15 and he's gonna get stronger opponents. Perhaps the sekiwake Wakamotoharu with 6-2 can cause some discomfort.


Bernd 09/25/2023 (Mon) 17:42 [Preview] No.51070 del
So Aki basho ended yesterday. Takakeisho had the yusho with a 11-4 and defeating Atamifuji in the playoffs since both had the same score by the end of the tournament. 11-4 is quite a thin score for a championship, far from a fat 14-1 or a full 15. But still.
But it was an epic battle for Atamifuji, the whole basho. From the place Maegeshira 15 he managed to beat the whole banzuke, except 4 (and three of em were Daiesho, Takakeisho, and Asanoyama...). He deserved that second chance in the playoff match for the yusho.
Atamifuji - or for Anglos: Tummyfuji - is one of the young/new and talented rikishis struggling their way to the top. He was in Makuuchi briefly, but fall back to Juryo when he was out for some injury. But since he racking up nice scores, got back to Makuuchi, and surprised everyone with this run. He is 21. What the future holds, we'll see.
Besides him, there is:
- Oho (23), who is rising-falling, rising-falling in the bottom half of Makuuchi;
- Gonoyama (25) who jumped up to Maegeshira #5 with great speed but now seems slowing down a bit;
- the skyscraper Hokuseiho (22) who secured a stable position in the bottom half of Makuuchi;
- Kinbozan (26), also finding his place in the same range of the ranks;
- Hakuoho (20) who was out due to some shoulder surgery this basho, but probably is the most promising of these.
Back in Juryo it's perhaps Onosato (23) who could be capable of great things. Roga (24) lacks in that surprising talent to rack up 10+ scores, and Shishi (26) is a big lad, but not skillful enough and too old to expect considerable development. The latter two ofc might make into Makuuchi and stay there.
I dunno. We'll just have to see.


Bernd 11/11/2023 (Sat) 21:07 [Preview] No.51250 del
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Kysushu Basho starts tomorrow.
Gonna watch it in the next two weeks every day, about 18:00 CET as usual. If NattoSumo manages to upload it somewhere.

Perhaps Takakeisho will manages to bag the yusho, which could very well mean he bags the yokozuna rank too. He needs a good balance, for his last one was a fairly week win. The rest isn't too exciting I think. Couple of guys to pay some mind. I wonder if Hakuoho will participate, and how the rest of the youth, like Tummy-fuji or Hokuseiho or Gonoyama will fare.
And that's about it.


Bernd 11/13/2023 (Mon) 18:54 [Preview] No.51254 del
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Kyushu basho
Day 2

Juryo
Akua vs. Hitoshi - haha nice roll. On the other hand poor Hitoshi got injured.
Daishoho pushed Onosato hard and far but fell himself. Had to rematch because it wasn't obvious who won. Then Onosato got the point after a strong tachi-ai.
Shishi beat Chiyoshoma. I did not expect this, Chiyoshoma being more skilled I think. Shishi hang on and was persistent, stood his ground and pushed his opponent out.

Makuuchi
Tamawashi beat Tsurugisho easy. The fat lad fell hard.
Whoa. Oho vs Sadanoumi! What a struggle! Oho did a great save at half the match, but couldn't save it in the end. Both fell like trees in storm.
Kotoeko vs Hiradoumi. Another intense match right after. They always fight in good spirit and vehemently. Kotoeko won.
Mitakeumi was defeated by Tummyfuji. Well deserved win he was on the offense from the start.
Hokuseiho vs Endo. Endo knew he shouldn't let Hokuseiho stall the match. Sadly for him, Hokuseiho decided to lean on his neck and push him down to the clay.
Daiesho vs Gonoyama. Very good match both hitting the clay in the same time. Torinaoshi! Daiesho won for the second time wasn't any doubt.
Wakamotoharu was holding ground and grappling with Meisei, slowly but steadily directing him out of the ring.
Takakeisho beat Shodai. Then Hoshoryu Ura. And then the third ozeki (the first one in current ranking) Kirishima beat Abi with a blitz.


Bernd 11/17/2023 (Fri) 18:34 [Preview] No.51266 del
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Day 6

Lotsa very good fights today. In general the whole tournament goes well. So just a few here.

Juryo
Yuma vs Tochimusashi. Good bout right at the start! Tochimusashi - visiting from Makushita division - won.
Hitoshi vs Shiden. Bretty gud pushy-pushy fight for juryo.
Shimanoumi vs Takakento. And this one was bretty gud panties grabbin fight.


Makuuchi
Ichiyamamoto bagging the 6th win against Nishikifuji. Nice bout.
Seemed like Roga beat Takarafuji in a great bout, good fight. But was mono-ii if his heel was out. I think it was but the elders decided otherwise.
Ryuden vs Oho. Jesus! Awesome fight! Very energetic, alternatingly gaining the upper hand. Then deadlock. And in the end Ryuden rocked Oho slowly out of the ring.
Atamifuji fucked up by constantly trying to reach for Sadanoumi's belt. His tries costed time and allowed Sadanoumi to force his own sumo.
Hahahahaha, Nishikigi lifeted Hokuseiho out! What a turn of events! Hokuseiho is a tall lad but not fat enough to be unmovable obstacle.
Ura! Urrraaaaaahhh!
And Shodai beats Daieisho. I did not expect this.
Whew, Gonoyama beat Kirishima. Very quick. To be honest I think Kirishimas right leg slipped. On the other hand they should take care that doesn't happen, part of the skillset to avoid that.
Tobizaru henkad Takakeisho, but couldn't exploit it. Then Takakeisho beat him with his pushy-pushy routine.
Takayas isn't in his best form, he looked unsure, and reactive, instead of the one dictating the pace. But in the end he pulled Hoshoryu's leg out, and flattened him onto the clay. Very good bout. I cannot put my finger on where Hoshoryu failed here, but he could win it earlier I think.
Kotonowaka nad Ichiyamamoto are still unbeaten.


Bernd 11/19/2023 (Sun) 20:57 [Preview] No.51277 del
So we are over halfway in the tournament, 8 days passed. Noone reached kachi koshi (a balance with at least 8 wins) yet, which means no unbeaten rikishi.
Ichiyamamoto leads the banzuke with 7-1. He is on the 14th place of the Maegeshira ranks, so he'll face harder and harder opponents proportionally, so more likely he'll get halted.
Two ozekis Kirishima and Hoshoryu is on 6-2, and the sekiwake Kotonowaka as well. They bound to achieve good score perhaps one of them will be the champion of the basho. Atamifuji has the same amount of points, and did very well on the last basho, perhaps he will also be in the lead again, having the chance to fight for the yusho again. Who knows. Maybe Nishikigi and Tamawashi can hope.
Ozeki Takakeisho, and sekiwake Daieisho have 5-3, just as Takayasu. I don't think they'll be in the lead. Can happen.
Thing is Takayasu already fought all the top wrestlers, all the ozekis and sekiwakes. There is still Abi and Hokutofuji, but I think he can manage. So in the next seven fights, he'll face relatively easy opponents. 10 points is reasonable goal.
Takakeisho and Daieisho still have to face the other ozekis.
And for tomorrow Kotonowaka got Hoshoryu, who potentially can halt the sekiwake.
I don't think Kirishima got easier opponent. He will face Asanoyama, who just beat Takakeisho today. However Asanoyama is recovering, and Takakeisho also isn't at 100% health. So Kirishima might have easier time.

It doesn't seem like any of the ozekis are ready to be yokozuna. I think Hoshoryu is the most skilled, and the youngest (only 24!). Takakeisho is a one trick pony, and Kirishima isn't good enough. He might be good enough to keep the ozeki title for some time. Hoshoryu can beat Kirishima fairly reliably, and probably Takakeisho too. But bagging two losses this early isn't a good sign.
I remember the rise of Terunofuji, like a meteor flying through, opposed by noone, but Hakuho. I did not witnessed Hakuho's career but only a couple of tournament where he absolutely dominated the dohyo. Now these are/were yokozunas. Perhaps I expect a lot. Reading about Hakuho, he was a very exceptional rikishi.
Anyway Hoshoryu has the potential, we'll see if he can use it.


Bernd 11/26/2023 (Sun) 19:33 [Preview] No.51319 del
I think we (they) closed a good basho, full of good fighting. The old veterans are rotating out, young champions of a new day rising.

Kirishima won the championship, with a very good 13-2 balance. I would describe 14-1 is great and 15-0 is excellent. If he bags the next yusho in January, he'll be promoted to yokozuna! Mainichi writes this:
>The head of the Japan Sumo Association's judges division, sumo elder Sadogatake, indicated the ozeki would be a candidate for promotion in January's grand tournament, where another championship or a record worthy of a title will likely see Kirishima ascend to sumo's highest rank.
This means he might not have to win the yusho, just pull a "record worthy of a title". Problem is the champion then has to achieve and even better record to call Kirishimas "worthy of a title".
Terunofuji has to retire I believe. His health seemed to deteriorate so much. All kinds of injuries, knees, hip, back, spine. He participated only on one basho. Kirishima could prove a good replacement. He is still young (27) and not too prone to injuries, which means he can be there on many tournaments, and good enough grappler to score well, and be at the top, and gain some yushos here and there. He isn't as strong as Teru, who can beat everyone if healthy and fit, and noone compares to Hakuho ofc, but Kirishima might be just good enough.
I expect Hoshoryu joining him relatively soon that is if Kirishima can get into yokozuna rank.... Perhaps next year. I think he has more skill than Kirishima, perhaps stronger a bit too, but somehow he misses a bit more. What I don't like is his pre-tachi-ai staredown attitude. His fighting spirit is great, he is very competitive and agressive, forcing his will on the opponent, but just before the match he looks like a complete cunt. Okay, he is an ozeki, so there is an accomplishment to be proud of, but he's doing that since forever.
The third candidate, Takekeisho is an ozeki for years now. He is solid. But he is a one trick pony. Sure if he can achive those two yushos, sure promote him yokozuna.

The meteor of this and the last basho is Atamifuji. This tournament did not ended as exciting for him than the last one, but did very well, achieving a 11-4 balance. He is very young and very good. He will jump up a couple of places from Maegeshira #8. Good things are expected from him, needs more experience and more exposure to high pressure situations to get used to them, so he can keep his head clear and his mind set.
Yesterday he got beaten by Kirishima, and today had the chance to win one, and if Kirishima had lost to Takakeisho, that would have led to playoffs. It isn't how it happened, he lost and that sealed the fate of the yusho. Then Kirishima won anyway. Kotonowaka beat him quick, which was disappointing. He'll do better in January.


Bernd 11/27/2023 (Mon) 08:51 [Preview] No.51320 del
>>51319
>another championship or a record worthy of a title
If I remember right Terunofuji was promoted with a 14-1, got beaten by Hakuho, who won the yusho with 15-0. There is no way any of them can do similar.
Hah, award ceremony went up:
https://rumble.com/v3xzx97-kyushu-2023-makuuchi-award-ceremony-and-yusho-interview-eng-cc-by-kohaku-ne.html


Bernd 11/27/2023 (Mon) 09:00 [Preview] No.51321 del
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Have to wrestle that giant cup too.


Bernd 01/13/2024 (Sat) 19:27 [Preview] No.51514 del
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Hatsu Basho starts tomorrow!!!
And I'm reading on Tachiai blog, that Terunofuji will fight! Sadly I don't hope for much, his body is a wreck, average people don't recover from such injuries, the only thing I'm rooting for he won't get hurt much more.
Kirishima with his victory in the last tournament is aiming for the yokozuna title with another yusho. With Teru's state it would be good to have another grand champion, and I think Kirishima is cool, but to be frank he doesn't have that much talent. He is good, but not that good. Still if he gets it, obviously he will deserve it.
Atamifuji is at Maegeshira 1 (west). He'll have to fight all the top guys, and he doesn't have a good balance against them. His performance in the last two bashos were excellent. Perhaps he has a bit stage fright when have to face the big names. He has to overcome this mental and emotional barrier.
Hakuoho is back after his share of operation on his shoulder. Hopefully he recovered enough. He is down in Makushita, probably won't be much of a problem for him, and he'll start in juryo next time.
Onosato is in Makuuchi now.


Bernd 01/21/2024 (Sun) 21:25 [Preview] No.51555 del
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You asked who was the lady commentating yesterday. Someone on the forums knows the answer: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yui_Susaki

Also, have a bonus pissed Terunofuji after that Tobizaru kick.


Bernd 01/22/2024 (Mon) 11:12 [Preview] No.51556 del
>>51555
Ah, Olympic gold medalist freestyle wrestler. Image search shows she has the build for it. Built the build. Oh well.
>Teru face
Let's say it's the effort, not the anger.


Bernd 01/29/2024 (Mon) 08:46 [Preview] No.51586 del
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Great return for Terunofuji!
The tournament ended yesterday. In juryo Takerufuji won the yusho, to my surprise. I don't know anything about him, he is new to this division, his last 6 results were good, but not spotless. Now a 12-2 result is very good one, but he fought mostly against the lower ranking rikishis, and next time he probably has to face Wakatakakage and Hakuoho, beside the top dudes.
So Terunofuji. He spent most of 2023 recovering. He had knee surgeries in both legs, and had "lower back problems", his spine is fucked there as earlier noted. I was hoping he won't re-injure, I know he might hurting and weaker for couldn't train with full steam during recovery. I have not expected that he'll be the central figure of the basho at the end, Kirishima's struggle for the yokozuna title was one theme of the basho, and then as Kotonowaka remained unbeated, his chance to get promoted to ozeki gained attention too. But with some unfortunate events, two ozekis were out of the race, and Teru beat the rest of the top wrestlers. In fact he just threw Kirishima out of the dohyo like nothing.
I'm still worried, it seems to be a pattern. He gets injured, then returns with a big win, then next basho he gets worse, perhaps have to leave in mid tournament, then have to sit out bashos recovering again.

As for Kirishima, my opinion didn't change, he is good, a top rikishi, and probably fit for ozeki, but not good enough for yokozuna.
And this is true for the rest. Hoshoryu is very talented, but fails at random matches - btw Kirishima too. Hoshoryu suffered minor injury pre-tournament, then the recurring abuse made it worse, so he couldn't finish the basho properly. He still pulled a very good 10-4-1 balance.
I'm looking at both of their records (these are on their Wikipee page) and neither has spotless rise in the ranks, their results are frequently just in the positive (4-3, 5-2; 8-7, 9-6), rarely a 10+. Not that impressive.
Compared to them the fresh rising stars:
- Hakuoho introduced himself in makushita with a 7-0. Then in juryo 10-5, 14-1. Then in makuuhci 11-4.
- Onosato's makushita record aint that good, but in juryo 12-3, 12-3, and now in makuuchi 11-4.
Granted shouldn't measure everyone with the standards of the retired yokozuna, Hakuho.

Kotonowaka is working hard. He has similar low-key rise like Kirishima and Hoshoryu. I feel more focus on Hoshoryu than the rest. So Kotonowaka is now collected 33 points in 3 tournaments. Usually for an ozeki promotion they demand 33 points during three consequent 10+ tournament results. His 33 starts with a 9-6. I don't know if he gets promoted, or they'll demand another 10+ win. He had an impressive form in the past two weeks, but the banzuke has three ozekis listed. That seems plenty.

This was an exciting basho, with some troubling illnesses and injuries.


Bernd 02/06/2024 (Tue) 17:52 [Preview] No.51627 del
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Kotonowaka was promoted to ozeki. Well deserved, he was working hard for a long time now, only an injury slowing him down. He is a big lad, and strong. But he also has his short-circuit thing, characteristic to his fellow ozekis. He fails random matches where he should be winner.
Now the banzuke counts four ozekis, which one of them will be the next yokozuna?


Bernd 02/23/2024 (Fri) 23:31 [Preview] No.51684 del
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Welp, they kicked out Hokuseiho (for serial bullying – stealing money was also mentioned by tabloids but this was not included in the charges) and penalized Hakuho (for doing nothing about it – Chris mentioned he has been absent, not living with the guys ever since they're in the temporary building, so he probably didn't even know it's been continuing since 2022 when he was only just taking over)
Feels like a bit of a hook on Hakuho to keep him in line, tbh. But Hokuseiho didn't look like he's going anywhere from where he got by now anyway. And apparently he was also actually lazy, not just looking like that in the dohyo. Bummer.
Someone else will temporarily take over the stable to get things "in proper order". I hope Hakuoho won't be affected by the drama.
https://english.kyodonews.net/news/2024/02/89fd0e352fa7-sumo-former-yokozuna-hakuho-penalized-over-proteges-violence.html


Bernd 02/24/2024 (Sat) 09:02 [Preview] No.51686 del
>>51684
No more slow dancing. Oh well.
Perhaps I watched one too many yak movies, but everything around sumo makes me think some monkey business in the play. Like know I think whatever happened Hakuho knew about it, that temporary building thing is an excuse, and that Hokuseiho is a fall guy taking the blame.
>Hokuseiho didn't look like he's going anywhere from where he got by now anyway.
Part of the reason it was him who drew the ace.


Bernd 03/06/2024 (Wed) 09:31 [Preview] No.51730 del
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Spring basho starts on Sunday!

Terunofuji did a good job, and perhaps kept himself from re-injury. At least it seemes he was still okay at the end. I'm worried he will have to withdraw in mid-tournament due to relapse. But I hope he won't.
Kotonowaka is an ozeki now, and he is in a good form for quite a while now. But as all the current ozekis (Hoshoryu, Kirishima, Takakeisho) he also fails in seemingly random matches, and in some non-random, against opponents who have good track record against them, those simply fight in a style that they just can't handle. I think this is the difference, that Teru has at least the size and the strength to counter those rikishis who can cause trouble to him. At least when he is healthy.
Hopefully Hoshoryu is healthy again, just like Takakeisho.
Kirishima is after a good tournament, but a failure to won the championship. I think his stable master is retiring and the fate of his heya is unsure.
Asanoyama is at maegeshira #1 waiting to enter the sanyaku ranks. He had to miss 3 bouts to health related issues.
Atamifuji is at M#2. His last score was only 6-9 but he had to face the top guys, and it seems he has a little bit of stage-fright against them. He is young (22) and has time to mature. He can be one of the top guys easily.
Oho jumped to M#3. He is yoyoing up and down. He is strong for the guys in the back, but not skillful enough for the rikishis at the front.
Climbing of Onosato continued, at M#5. Perhaps won't stop now.
New addition to makuuchi is Takerufuji, with stellar form. It goes well with Isegahama-beya these years it seems. Many talents there.
Unlike Miyagino. Ofc Hokuseiho is booted >>51684 and Hakuho did not prove to be a great master there. For now, he could be better in the future. There is a new caretaker, called Tamagaki.

Wakatakakage is climbed up to juryo, just as Hakuoho. Both recovering from health issues. Not sure what's interesting there. Hokuseiho is listed in juryo. Curious.


Bernd 03/16/2024 (Sat) 10:31 [Preview] No.51790 del
Today is Day 7 of Haru Basho and yesterday we entertained the thought who will be the champion. We missed one guy: Atamifuji.
At the moment I'd give a good chance for him to win. His at 4-2 from 6 bouts (I dunno what he wrestled today yet, so...) and this is his results of the past 6 days:
- lost vs Kotonowaka, 0-1
- won vs Kirishima, 1-1
- lost vs Hoshoryu, 1-2
- won vs Tobizaru, 2-2
- won vs Takakeisho, 3-2
- won vs Asanoyama, 4-2
He faced all four ozekis already, beat 2 of them, and beat two other difficult opponents.
He doesn't have to face Terunofuji, since they are in the same heya. So possible opponents are from the top ranks:
- Daiesho
- Wakamotoharu
- Abi
- Nishikigi
- Ura
- Meisei
- Oho
- Takanosho
- Hiradoumi
Ofc this all depends on how all they do, and one more rikishi have to be listed who do very well now:
- Onosato
Takerufuji is doing well too, but he is in Isegahama as well.
I think Onosato is absolutely one of the rikishis he'll have to face, with his 6-0 record at the moment.
With the exception of Oho, and perhaps Takanosho who is past his prime, all of these can mean a serious challenge.
However Nishikigi, Takanosho, Oho, Meisei, Hiradoumi, Ura, and Daieisho aren't in their best forms, and might not rise in the list enough to be worthy to pitted against him.
And there are rikishis from the back of the banzuke who have good results, but they are lesser threats.
Anyway at the moment I think Atamifuji has a good chance.


Bernd 03/16/2024 (Sat) 21:23 [Preview] No.51794 del
Atamifuji got crushed by Oho quite surprisingly. Oh, well.


Bernd 03/24/2024 (Sun) 13:32 [Preview] No.51812 del
Hey, can we start stream a bit earlier today? Let's say 17:30. I'll be going out afterwards.


Bernd 03/24/2024 (Sun) 13:33 [Preview] No.51813 del
>>51812
Sure, just finished uploading.


Bernd 03/24/2024 (Sun) 22:21 [Preview] No.51815 del
This was a basho with full of surprises.
Firstly in juryo the two favourites, neither Wakatakakage nor Hakuoho did managed to get near to winning the championship. It was Mitoryu who secured his first place with a 12-3.
In makuuchi Kirishima fared extremely bad. Especially considering his previous forms. Still - again - surprisingly he managed to beat fellow ozeki Kotonowaka in the ultimate match. Terunofuji's withdrawal was kinda expected, I hoped differently but we all know he isn't doing good. All those injuries, operations, recoveries. Sad.
But the greatest surprise was the freshest newbie in makuuchi, the Maegeshira #17 Takerufuji. He is from the same stable as Teru, from Isegahama. This was his first tournament in makuuchi, and he fought his way up to the very top, and became the champion with an impressive 13-2, beating some top rikishis not Hoshoryu tho.
On day 14 Takerufuji suffered his second loss, against Asanoyama, a former ozeki, and while falling out of the dohyo he hurt his right leg, had to limp out, and from the news we know ambulance took him away. Despite this today he showed up and beat Gonoyama with noticeable pain. But this win cemented his yusho. He also got all but one prizes. He'll probably jump up to the sanyaku ranks - from the last place of the division.

Great basho all around were many good bouts, exciting and fun. Zuper awesome.


Bernd 03/26/2024 (Tue) 00:44 [Preview] No.51817 del
Next morning interview. The automatic translation does quite a decent job.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=u97NMLWLtlA [Embed]

I'm reading a bit more info on where Takerufuji came from on wikipedia. He had knee injuries in high school, 2nd year of university, and then the future Onosato (who just kept winning everything) eclipsed him, which is why he was never the winner before.


Bernd 03/26/2024 (Tue) 08:13 [Preview] No.51818 del
>>51817
Ah thanks for context. No wonder his legs look thin and weaker than the rest. He is young still so hopefully his injuries won't leave much of an impact. Sadly chances are he could be prone to injury. That would suck balls, this helluva splash he did proves he is very capable.
>Onosato eclipsed him
Even if Takerufuji don't accomplish anything more - perhaps for recurring injuries, or because facing all the top ranks will be a harder challange, or whatever else, fate knows -, and Onosato grows into the next yokozuna, I think Takerufuji proved that he is more than a match.


Bernd 03/31/2024 (Sun) 18:10 [Preview] No.51843 del
>>51817
Still haven't watched that. I really should.

Here's an article about the fate of Miyagino stable n wrestlers. They are now housing in with Isegahama, apparently Teru doing some mentoring.
https://hochi.news/articles/20240331-OHT1T51144.html?page=1


Bernd 04/01/2024 (Mon) 21:53 [Preview] No.51849 del
>>51843
Well well well
I wonder what the reasoning behind this decision was. One thing is, Isegahama-beya has a yokozuna and four more in makuuchi (or five? is Takarafuji promoted back now?), and they need assigned attendants. But, Isegahama-oyakata will be retiring in July next year, after reaching maximum age of 65. What happens then? Can Miyagino-beya branch out again?
In the meanwhile, it is mostly disappointing that now Hakuoho and Atamifuji won't be able to face each other – not good for rivalry development.


Bernd 04/01/2024 (Mon) 22:05 [Preview] No.51850 del
In other news, Kirishima has now joined ex-Kakuryu's Otowayama, as his stablemaster is retiring. His poor performance was due to neck and elbow broblems. Hope he can recover.


Bernd 04/03/2024 (Wed) 13:13 [Preview] No.51855 del
>>51849
I read Miyagino was or is a branch of Isegahama or something.
>What happens then? Can Miyagino-beya branch out again?
I assume this is temporary.
>Hakuoho and Atamifuji won't be able to face each other – not good for rivalry development.
Not to mention the third rising star Takerufuji. And with Onosato we're starting to run out of promising new talents. Hoshoryu is veteran at this point (heh Takerufuji is same age). Gonoyama is new but I'm not sure of hist capabilities. Sometimes his fights are impressive. Oho isn't good, although if he could muscle up, he could counter skill with strength.

>>51850
I like Kirishima so I do hope it will work out. Luckily at least one other rikishi, and personnel are transferred, so not entirely new situation.
>Hope he can recover.
Indeed.
Heh on Natto's discord there is a couple of users who are vocal Kirishima opposers. They see attitude problems with him, he smirks a lot apparently. He does do that but it doesn't seem haughty to me. So basically they just find him antipathetic. Happens.


Bernd 04/25/2024 (Thu) 06:55 [Preview] No.51907 del
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Great memes.


Bernd 04/26/2024 (Fri) 01:05 [Preview] No.51914 del
>>51907
I laffed :DD


Bernd 04/26/2024 (Fri) 20:40 [Preview] No.51925 del
https://www.nikkansports.com/battle/sumo/news/202404110000240.html
Akebono died at age of 54. Heart failure.
I saved some Terunofuji laughing pics, but I hold on to them to some other day.


Bernd 05/01/2024 (Wed) 08:05 [Preview] No.51940 del
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Basho of May is approaching.
Kotonowaka updated his shikona to Kotozakura.
Hoshoryu is the top ozeki at the moment. He's doing good, pulling 10+ points in the last three tournaments, can he win the yusho finally? Twice consequently perhaps? I'm sure Kotozakura will be there trying to prevent him doing that, and claim the title for himself.
I think Takakeisho is recovering still, and Kirishima is kadoban, has to pull shit together to remain ozeki.
Abi and Asanoyama are back in the sanyaku ranks. Onosato is now komusubi.
Takerufuji jumped to #6 maegeshira. I think there was speculation that he could enter sanyaku. A bit too optimist apparently.
Not much else interesting honestly. Fingers crossed for Teru not gettin injured again.


Bernd 05/10/2024 (Fri) 17:19 [Preview] No.51970 del
Natsu Basho is here!
I gave notes about the banzuke above. Not much to add.
Instead here's a substack of sumo stats (like picrel #2) and other blogging activity:
https://sumostats.substack.com/
I thought Midori is the shortest but apparently he towers over Tobizaru by 1cm.


Bernd 05/10/2024 (Fri) 17:20 [Preview] No.51971 del
Ah, if everything goes well, we're gonna watch the stream each day from 18:00 CET.


Bernd 05/13/2024 (Mon) 07:25 [Preview] No.51978 del
Teru got hurt. Again.
https://twitter.com/kuru2obake/status/1789870742043037792
>横綱照ノ富士、休場。
>「左肋軟骨損傷、右変形性膝関節症で3週間の安静加療を要する見込み」との診断書。
>Yokozuna Terunofuji absent.
>Medical report: 'Left rib cartilage damage and right knee osteoarthritis, expected to require three weeks of rest and treatment.'


Bernd 05/30/2024 (Thu) 19:04 [Preview] No.52022 del
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Haven't written much about this tournament, but perhaps it's not too late. Heh.
So the makuuchi yusho was won by Onosato. He achieved this feat on his seventh (7th) tournament since he enrolled into pro-sumo. He took the place from Takerufuji, who did it on his 10th tournament in March. Considering the 3 tournament difference, it might not be possible much earlier. Perhaps on the 6th. Onosato could have won the previous. Maybe 5 bashos could be possible. 2 complete domination in makushita, then 2 in juryo, and then on first tournament in makuuchi - bam yusho.
Onosato's winning bout was against Abi. He successfully held against Abi's initial charge, then pushed on quick, herding Abi out with ease. Wasn't a sensational bout for the audience, but was a climactic for him and his family. His dad cried, just as Onosato when he went out and back to the changing room or wherever they go after the matches.
12-3 is a good start for an ozeki run. He had a bit of luck with almost everyone being injured, but I think he has the potential to get 21 points in the next to bashos (a 10 and an 11 should be enough). I'm kinda hyped.
https://mainichi.jp/english/articles/20240526/p2g/00m/0sp/023000c
https://mainichi.jp/english/articles/20240527/p2g/00m/0sp/041000c

I hope Takerufuji returns soon too.
I'm sad that Teru's knees and back and spine and everything is fucked.


Bernd 06/04/2024 (Tue) 00:17 [Preview] No.52038 del
>>52022
>I hope Takerufuji returns soon too.
Takerufuji is back.
He did an exhibition bout (w/ Meisei) at Ishiura's retirement event on Saturday.


Bernd 06/04/2024 (Tue) 09:39 [Preview] No.52039 del
>>52038
Good.
In NattoSumo's discord they share bunch of articles and whatnot, but all in Japanese and I don't have time to translate and decide which of em is actually important (or interesting).



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