>>39789
Catholics will say that Peter and Paul came to Rome and founded the Catholic church with Peter as the first pope. However, apostolic succession is literally denied by Paul himself. Acts 20:29 "grievous wolves shall arise from among you".
Essentially, the early church theologians started adopting Platonic and Noahide ideas about Scripture. They taught that earthly might (in other terms, the power process) is not worth seeking and this idea of an eternal soul, that heaven was actually just eternal life as a soul, veganism, the trinity, etc., and most importantly denied that the actual Levitical Laws should even be followed anymore, which plunged the church into moral relativism. After Constantine converted Rome into Christianity, the bishops and monks began enforcing these doctrines, leading to judgement on Rome, the split into the Byzantine and Western Roman empire, with Arian Germanic tribes later sacking Rome. After Justinian reconquered Rome, he made the Bishop there, whom claimed succession from Peter the universal Bishop of all Christians, thus instituting the papacy, which enforced these Noahide laws on the entire church. The Orthodox church, though they were also Noahides split from the pope over the Filioque doctrine which created the modern Catholic church as it is today with the pope as the head.
And just a tack on since this theory of the mark of the beast being a chip is flying around so much, it was actually fulfilled with medieval excommunication. Deuteronomy 6:8 referred to the Law as a "mark on your right hand". Thus the mark of the beast is naturally a Satanic version of that; i.e. sinning or not following the Laws. Since the church has prohibited people from observing the Laws in the Council of Laodicea, people who followed the Law were excommunicated, which prohibited the excommunicated from buying and selling, exactly as Revelation 13 states via Civilia Jura.
http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/05678a.htm
>Civilia jura, i.e. the ordinary relations between members of the same society, outside of sacred and judicial matters. This privation, affecting particularly the person excommunicated, is no longer imposed on the faithful except in regard to the vitandi. The medieval canonists enumerated the prohibited civil relations in the following verse:
>Os, orare, vale, communio, mensa negatur,
>namely:
>(a) conversations, exchange of letters, tokens of benevolence (osculum);
>(b) prayer in common with the excommunicated;
>(c) marks of honour and respect;
>(d) business and social relations;
>(e) meals with the excommunicated.

>>39814
Arianism was a better version?

Wonder if the roman state promoted veganism? I know that the diet of the roman soldier mostly comprised of barley and porridge.

>>39828
Panem et circenses

>>39823
Yes.

I wonder if charlemagne was a jew

>>39829
You can't eat a circus.

>>39863
Practically it's possible. Not sure I would tho.
My point was peeps seeking popularity and then the emperors gave free grains/bread to the pleb. So basically Roman state promoted "veganism" just to use Swebernd's dictionary in a way for a certain stratum of the populace.

>>39866
*to pacify them
They did that with all their enemies. Give them bread and circus so they don't attack you.

>>39867
All "civilizations" does that to control their population. France had price controls on baguette and chicken for example.

>>39867
>>39869
The ruler have to be liked and feared at the same time, that's ruling 101.

Also not just "civilizations" institution of presents is prehistoric.

>>39871
Yes so that absolutely means the population has to be intentionally weakened with bread and circus.
>Also not just "civilizations" institution of presents is prehistoric.
How may you know that?

>>39872
Why do you insist put a negative spin on positive things. A good ruler won't let his people just starve, he gives them free food so they won't get weak. Or do you think the proper stance would be leaving them to their devices and let the hungry mass to plunder and burn everything?
>How may you know that?
Jews lied it to me at uni, then I read it in the books of Jewish lies and I ate it all up. Just some random info I remember I can't give you citation. Maybe I'll come across of it.
Maybe I sound abrasive now, that's just how things are at the moment.

>>39874
>Why do you insist put a negative spin on positive things. A good ruler won't let his people just starve, he gives them free food so they won't get weak. Or do you think the proper stance would be leaving them to their devices and let the hungry mass to plunder and burn everything?
They're pacifying them so they won't do anything. They can "hate" the leader but still not do anything if they just eat bread and watch circuses all the time. That's how bad tyrants can get into power.

>>39874
>he gives them free food so they won't get weak
Ehm. Giving people bread WILL make people weak. Even if you make it with sourdough, bread doesnt have alot of nutrition really.

I think india is a very good example of vegetarianism and the detrimental effects it has.

>>39875
"Bread" might be the minimum to maintain a content populace, it's "circuses" where you step into keeping the population distracted.

>>39828
>Wonder if the roman state promoted veganism?
No. They ate lots of meat

>I know that the diet of the roman soldier mostly comprised of barley and porridge.

Here's a complete, in-depth summary of what everyone ate in Rome, from soldiers to civilians

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ancient_Roman_cuisine

https://us.mealkitsupply.com/blogs/news/what-did-roman-soldiers-eat

https://www.thoughtco.com/did-roman-soldiers-eat-meat-120634

>>39789
>How did it go from Jesus to catholicism based in Rome and a pope as the head of the church?

Perhaps try asking a Priest since he would know more of the topic in depth

>>39896
>"Bread" might be the minimum to maintain a content populace,

Apart from Persia, China and a few other small kingdoms, most places on planet earth at that time were severely underdeveloped. Literal free food would be seen as a luxury to have at that time.

The bread was called frumentatio and was very popular during its time. Picrel is how it looked like


>it's "circuses" where you step into keeping the population distracted.

That really didn't help so much. Romans would always be revolting or have it's soldiers do mutinies against the state/senators/dictators/governors/etc

>>39910
>No. They ate lots of meat
Meat was quite rare to find for the majority of people. Soldiers ate mostly grains.

https://www.thoughtco.com/did-roman-soldiers-eat-meat-120634

>>39911
>That really didn't help so much. Romans would always be revolting or have it's soldiers do mutinies against the state/senators/dictators/governors/etc

That's quite telling about how domesticated humans have become today.

The Biblical view of the future, from the perspective of the pope as the Antichrist.

>>39944
Is that from drake

>>39945
Yes but it's all Historicist Bible eschatology.

>>39949
Why do you trust him so much?

>>39952
1. this is the same Historicist Bible eschatology that even people like Luther used, so it has nothing to do with a single person.
2. Show me a single other person who has done something so accurate even closely similar to the Five Years of Political Mastery.

>>39953
Luther talked about technocracy?

I have my doubts about luther since he was backed financially by shady people.

I haven't read his five years of political mastery so I can't comment on that.

>>39954
Luther's Historicist eschatology was basically having the pope as the Antichrist and having prophecy being fulfilled historically, since 70 AD concurrently with Daniel (which ended right before Jesus came), which is exactly how the older books worked like Isaiah, Ezekiel etc.. He was right, and prophecy was continued to have been fulfilled after his age, with the wound of the beast (Napoleonic wars), the drying of the Euphrates (fall of the Ottoman empire, Sykes-Picot) kings of the east as modern-day Asian superpowers, etc. These high technocrats are Darwinists, rabbinic jews, and Jesuits working in tandem, and the latter are specifically trying to bring about this 3rd age of Joachim through technology which once again leads to the Vatican.
Five Years of Political Mastery is better in video form as it shows all the video citations. Basically it's about all his predictions centering around this same Historicist eschatology stemming from Luther occurring after the COVID hoax began.

>>39955
I seem to remember miles mathis writing about martin luther yes? Rosicrucians or something. We both agree that miles or whomever is writing it can go fuck themselfes but there was some good points in that text.

Just my gut feeling tells me 300 years of technocracy is a bit too long for my liking.

His blog is quite interesting to read. He sure has writing diarrhea.

https://southernisraelite.wordpress.com/

>>39960
Not really. Lutheranism has the rose cross as a logo, but that isn't sufficient evidence that he was a Rosicrucian considering that they supposedly didn't emerge until a century later. Why do I believe they aren't allies? Because although "Miles Mathis" or whomever writes those papers tries to claim popes were jewish he still believes that Rosicrucianism was this conspiracy against the church, he can't differentiate between Feudal Catholicism and this Joachim 3 age mystic crap. The rebels against the feudal order were literally called "Joachimites" and the Rosicrucians continued this idea of a liberal revolution, which is actually against both Luther and the "normal" Catholics. Luther actually chose to marry instead of choosing to remain this celibate monk, which is wholly against Joachim's faction.
>300 years of technocracy
At least 200 with Darwin and the Huxley family, but this monastic ideology that advocates for these measures goes back thousands of years to Buddhism in India rebelling against the caste system, Plato, etc.. The technocratic agenda with all this industrial technology to institute these measures in particular however began with Darwin and the Huxleys, since they couldn't enforce this monastic society 2500 years ago; now they can, and this has been my point for over a year now. The Huxleys clearly began using Gnostic/Joachimite philosophy since the Jesuit transhumanist Teilhard de Chardin was the mentor of Julian Huxley when he was the first director of UNESCO. The pope (now an open Jesuit) also supports Teilhard de Chardin. So the "technocracy" we're talking about is clearly this synthesis between Huxleys/Social-Darwinists and the ancient monastic ideology.

>>39963
Do you remember "miles" always promoting eating this shit organic vegetables from farmers gay market. Always thought that was interesting. He never mentioned meat or milk. Just thought of that.

>>39964
Also that whole thing about sleeping in for over 8 hours? This is the technocratic diet. Artificial meat/veganism + robots do all the work, so people have all the time to sleep.
When I first began eating raw primal, I felt great even with only 5 hours of sleep.

>>39965
Currently watching that

https://youtube.com/watch?v=QeCUhXd1MAU [Embed]

I dont like him using modern slang like btfo it degrades the language. But its a good vid overall

>>39964
I'm on the IRC

>>39968
Chat doesnt load for me

Vegetables was starvation food in the past, but people don't know any history so they think its healthy. Insane really

>>39969
Try this:
https://b.clients.kiwiirc.com/

>>39969
In-case you want to chat later I'll be on again around 8PM.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=ofUqymHPgRg [Embed]

Hes going beyond being the top educator of the world.

>>39989
Yes.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=jWs9zZKqvKA [Embed]

>>39944
https://youtube.com/watch?v=YXnw4cwgOrg [Embed]
Explanation of this image

>>39994
And you presume you pay 50$ to him every month? Otherwise you are stealing from him (his own words).

>>39996
He's giving out his work for free but he still insists it's worth $50 a month. He actually did that last year but made it all free after the COVID hoax so all this information could spread more easily.

>>39997
So that he can fund his alcoholism and fuck black hookers?

>>39998
>So that he can fund his alcoholism and fuck black hookers?
All lies coming from a Russian NEET.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=f-b8kbPir3o [Embed]

I've heard it from several people

>>40003
They're either part of or getting it from this Russian NEET, they have a discord where they coordinate all these lies and spread them, and those were refuted in that video. That Russian was extremely angry about having to eat raw primal and having to go outside instead of playing video games for 12 hours so he made all that stuff up.

>>40005
That's literally the same Russian NEET I was just talking about. The guy with a literal Soviet astronaut as his profile picture. Those are all lies refuted in that video and completely exposed in this one:
https://youtube.com/watch?v=CFFyVCYWJ4U [Embed]

>>40005
Here he admits to wanting to murder Drake.

>>40006
Not the same person

>>40008
Skip to 1:09. It says he made it "in tandem with Lancetier", that same Russian NEET.
This "Inescapable Reality" guy is a nihilistic karaite jew by the way.

>>40008
I'm on here:
https://cytu.be/r/myzone

>>40007
Wanting and doing are two different things.

>>40009
I find it funny that drake uses this word neet all the time, since the majority of the people who reads his tragic writings are neets themselfes. Its similar to miles insulting his readers.

>>39944
Bible couldnt even foreseen close future, not to mention bible also make completely baseless assumptions on past. How can anyone take this pic seriously?

>>40013
>Wanting and doing are two different things.
Yeah but it's still bad. That's a pretty jewish thing to say, .
>I find it funny that drake uses this word neet all the time, since the majority of the people who reads his tragic writings are neets themselfes. Its similar to miles insulting his readers.
Well he wants nothing to do with them, that's why he called them out so much.
>>40015
>Bible couldnt even foreseen close future
Not so fast! The book of Daniel is literally dated to the 2nd century BC by secularists/Jacobins just because all of its prophecies went til' Antiochus's time and were true, though the language it uses is 6th century BC Aramaic. Jesus predicted the fall of the Temple so the Gospels are dated to 70 AD. They claim Mark is the first book and not Matthew but ignore that the 4 Gospels were originally written in Aramaic, not Hebrew.
Secularist scholars also completely gaslight the Book of Revelation, claiming it was just about the fall of the jewish temple in 70 AD and thus it doesn't matter; however this is the preterist view, originally created in the 16th century AD by a Jesuit priest named Luis De Alcazar and only takes into account it and the futurist view, also created by a Jesuit named Francisco Ribera. None of these even work like the Book of Daniel, which was clearly fulfilled throughout centuries of history and the symbolism of which clearly fits into the book of Revelation. Seeing that and the fact that the city of Rome is clearly the harlot of Revelation (seven mountains and all), the Historicist view that Luther and the Reformers all held thus makes the most sense. For instance the feet of iron and clay of Daniel 2 is also the ten horns of Revelation, with the seven heads referring to the earlier Hellenistic and earlier Near Eastern empires. There are ten toes in two feet and Western Rome split into 10 main barbarian kingdoms.
> 31-45 This image represented the kingdoms of the earth, that should successively rule the nations, and influence the affairs of the Jewish church. 1. The head of gold signified the Chaldean empire, then in being. 2. The breast and arms of silver signified the empire of the Medes and Persians. 3. The belly and thighs of brass signified the Grecian empire, founded by Alexander. 4. The legs and feet of iron signified the Roman empire. The Roman empire branched into ten kingdoms, as the toes of these feet. Some were weak as clay, others strong as iron. Endeavours have often been used to unite them, for strengthening the empire, but in vain. The stone cut out without hands, represented the kingdom of our Lord Jesus Christ, which should be set up in the kingdoms of the world, upon the ruins of Satan's kingdom in them. This was the Stone which the builders refused, because it was not cut out by their hands, but it is become the head stone of the corner. Of the increase of Christ's government and peace there shall be no end. The Lord shall reign, not only to the end of time, but when time and days shall be no more. As far as events have gone, the fulfilling this prophetic vision has been most exact and undeniable; future ages shall witness this Stone destroying the image, and filling the whole earth.
It's also worth noting that 1260 days of Rev 11:2 is actually 1260 years as per the equation of Dan. 7:25 23 (42 Months, the Time(1) + Times(2) + Half a Time(.5) = (3.5), and the 1260 years are the same time period. 3.5 years is 42 months and 42 months is 1260 days.). 1260 years after the fleeing of the saints into the wilderness after the jewish temple was destroyed was John Wycliffe's birth and the hindrance of the papacy's dominance over Europe with the beginning of the Lollards.

>>40021
>Yeah but it's still bad. That's a pretty jewish thing to say, .
21 Ye have heard that it was said of them of old time, Thou shalt not kill; and whosoever shall kill shall be in danger of the judgment:
22 But I say unto you, That whosoever is angry with his brother without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment: and whosoever shall say to his brother, Raca, shall be in danger of the council: but whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire.
Wanting to murder someone is still bad.

>>40021
Nowadays I see you posting quite a few Bible verses/quotes. Have you started reading it, or do you make some research - so to speak - into it?

>>40023
Yes.

>>40024
Which one?

>>40025
If I would venture a guess all of it.

He is (danebernd) very intelligent that's why im a bit baffled to see him trodden the path that this "southern israelite" is making.

>>40026
No I mean, just reading or specific inquiry.

>>40027
Did you repair you roof

>>40025
Well I typically read the KJV in English with a Greek lexicon, I don't think the Bible needs so much interpretation once you strip the actual theology of all popish doctrines.
>>40026
Sorry, there's just nobody else with a complete coherent theory, years of scholarship defending the Bible, an eschatology that has led to accurate analysis of modern events that actually faced scrutiny for it, and has a real feasible solution. If you can show me anyone else like that feel free to convince me otherwise.

>>40029
So you aren't investigate a specific thing or for a reason, just read it out of curiosity to get some insights about it?
>a complete coherent theory
But this sounds like you want some context about it. What kind of theory are you looking for?

>>40030
southern israelite is the top educator in world history

According to himself

>>40030
Namely a complete epistemology, a full theology, and a full political theory (esp. in the context of a solution to this enlightenment libertine industrialised hell).

>>40033
I think he is wrong and I will tell you why that is.

In his paper on plagues he wasn't just wrong on one thing, it was pretty much the whole paper just telling straight up lies.

The black plague wasn't caused by burning coal releasing mercury. People weren't using coal to heat their homes 800 years ago. What was happening 800 years ago was a solar minimum causing temperatures to drop, causing widespread crop failures and vulcano eruptions making it even worse.

It's the same thing with polio, aajonus claims it's the tinned cans causing it, whilst completely ignoring DDT.

What aajonus were spouting and drake isn't science. Science is honesty, objectivity and logical reasoning.

How would aajonus explain the Antonine plague? Plague of justinian? Perhaps these bloody romans were burning coal too.

My point is, if a person deliberately lies about something, you can be sure they will lie about other things aswell to suit their agenda.

>>40036
I'm not a professional in this field, so I won't pretend to be one/argue for or against Aajonus here. I would generally lean towards the Solar Minimum being the reasoning for these specific plagues too.
>My point is, if a person deliberately lies about something, you can be sure they will lie about other things aswell to suit their agenda.
This is a begging the question fallacy (assuming they're deliberately lying about this and deliberately ignoring DDT) and an appeal to association fallacy (if they lie about one thing they'll likely lie about other things; no analysis was done of everything else here). Again all of this comes from Aajonus, and he was fairly new to Aajonus's works at that. Rejecting years of scholarship and a development of epistemology, theology, and political solutions as false just due to a vague association with Aajonus's theory regarding historical plagues without actually looking into them and refuting them is extremely dishonest, especially as I know you're a novice regarding theology.

>>40039
We can continue this discussion on irc

>>40043
https://qchat.rizon.net/
On now

Did you guys know that jain monks wear masks. Southern israelite thinks this covid thing is about making us like monks