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Read the bible Bernd 05/05/2019 (Sun) 19:27:39 [Preview] No. 25600
This is a thread to promote unity and love between christians to show our undying passion for God. I suggest building up your knowledge of the bible to protect yourself from the satanic outside world who want to corrupt all that is good.


Bernd 05/05/2019 (Sun) 19:29:09 [Preview] No.25602 del
What bible do my good sir recommend?


Bernd 05/05/2019 (Sun) 19:53:18 [Preview] No.25604 del
>>25602
The Fallout Bible ofc!


Bernd 05/05/2019 (Sun) 20:00:01 [Preview] No.25605 del
>>25602
1611 kjv its honestly the best.


Bernd 05/06/2019 (Mon) 13:49:10 [Preview] No.25627 del
>>25605
I hope you are not a protestant heretical?!


Bernd 05/06/2019 (Mon) 14:20:10 [Preview] No.25628 del
>>25627
I'm non denominational and yes I am technically a protestant.


Bernd 05/06/2019 (Mon) 15:21:37 [Preview] No.25630 del
>>25627
>being a papist in 2019


Bernd 05/06/2019 (Mon) 15:22:52 [Preview] No.25631 del
>>25628
REPENT my child and the kingdom of heaven shall be yours!


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Bernd 05/06/2019 (Mon) 15:36:12 [Preview] No.25634 del
>>25631
>>25632
>implying a church that assimilated paganism and literally keeps an Egyptian obelisk at the centre of their HQ is Christian


Bernd 05/06/2019 (Mon) 15:58:31 [Preview] No.25635 del
>>25630
What if he's an Orthodox?


Bernd 05/06/2019 (Mon) 16:09:03 [Preview] No.25636 del
>>25634
I was jesting m8


Bernd 05/06/2019 (Mon) 16:12:29 [Preview] No.25638 del
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REPENT
SINNER


Bernd 05/06/2019 (Mon) 16:19:50 [Preview] No.25639 del
>>25635
Orthodox Christianity is a Greek and Slav thing, a Swede isn't going to be one.


Bernd 05/06/2019 (Mon) 16:37:02 [Preview] No.25641 del
>>25639
They did after they went to Xyiv. Then Constantinople.


Bernd 05/06/2019 (Mon) 16:42:25 [Preview] No.25642 del
>>25636
Might as well. Who wants to drink spoiled wine anyway?

>>25638
>oh you
Nice one.


Bernd 05/06/2019 (Mon) 17:13:59 [Preview] No.25646 del
>>25641
After they mixed with Slavs.


BECOME ORTHODOX Bernd 05/06/2019 (Mon) 20:18:12 [Preview] No.25647 del
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BECOME ORTHODOX


Bernd 05/09/2019 (Thu) 19:42:08 [Preview] No.25725 del
>>25647
Does the orthodox hate the juice?


Bernd 05/10/2019 (Fri) 12:30:51 [Preview] No.25791 del
test


Bernd 05/11/2019 (Sat) 03:41:42 [Preview] No.25833 del
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I don't read the bible but I think the rules it has to follow are something that should be established.
I'm still dubious on it's take on greed and ire, and the "help the poor" thing that dismisses ethnicities and backgrounds. And I'm also dubious on it's position of Israel, but some of the rules seem fine as I said previously


Bernd 05/11/2019 (Sat) 05:49:22 [Preview] No.25835 del
>>25833
hola como estas


Bernd 05/11/2019 (Sat) 07:59:26 [Preview] No.25848 del
>>25647
this is how bulgars were cristianised and probably one of the reasons we fell later on


Bernd 05/16/2019 (Thu) 18:21:15 [Preview] No.26028 del
>>25835
This is why I always use tor to post here


Bernd 05/16/2019 (Thu) 18:27:02 [Preview] No.26029 del
>>26028
You don't like Spanish?


Bernd 05/16/2019 (Thu) 20:11:59 [Preview] No.26037 del
>>25833
Didn't notice this.
>I'm still dubious on it's take on greed and ire
It's against greed because it's a bad instinct.
>the "help the poor" thing that dismisses ethnicities and background
"Foreigner" could refer to another city, for example.
>And I'm also dubious on it's position of Israel
Biblical Israel =/= jews.


Bernd 05/17/2019 (Fri) 07:12:45 [Preview] No.26053 del
end spanish discrimination! they are humans too


Bernd 05/18/2019 (Sat) 10:52:26 [Preview] No.26105 del


Bernd 05/18/2019 (Sat) 13:11:47 [Preview] No.26116 del
>>26105
But it's a butifel language. Sounds nice.


Bernd 05/18/2019 (Sat) 13:28:09 [Preview] No.26119 del
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Bernd 05/19/2019 (Sun) 05:10:33 [Preview] No.26182 del
>>25725
Only the ones who are apostates.


Bernd 05/19/2019 (Sun) 22:25:15 [Preview] No.26244 del
>>26116
>>26119
Anything looks nice until you see the userbase that uses it. I became too autistic and can pinpoint when somebody is from here even when they're typing in english due to their mannerism.


Bernd 05/20/2019 (Mon) 05:15:57 [Preview] No.26248 del
>>26244
Then your problem is people and not the language.
If I may I give you an unsolicited advice. Don't judge things on the basis of users, likers, followers, but on their own merit. Otherwise you deny yourself things that potentially could make you better (whatever it means) or you could enjoy.


Bernd 05/20/2019 (Mon) 11:46:51 [Preview] No.26250 del
>>26244
my view is slighty skewed perhaps since I have an affectionfor latina women

maybe that would go away if I interacted with them


Bernd 05/21/2019 (Tue) 04:25:30 [Preview] No.26277 del
i liek the bibel. maeks me feel warm and fuzzy inside.


Bernd 05/21/2019 (Tue) 19:44:26 [Preview] No.26306 del
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>>26248
>Then your problem is people and not the language.
That's true I guess but that would also be ignoring the fact that the language is pretty degenerate keinbernd tier with some of the lingo it has.
I would probably hate polish if every single degenerate, niggers and low life spics I came across spoke polish, but since I don't understand it I don't have biggies.
>Don't judge things on the basis of users, likers, followers, but on their own merit. Otherwise you deny yourself things that potentially could make you better
Sounds like a really good anecdote for college


Bernd 05/21/2019 (Tue) 20:25:24 [Preview] No.26310 del
>>26306
>Sounds like a really good anecdote for college
That principle was on my mind which creation was made possible by the anonymous nature of imageboards: "judge posts by their own merit and not by who posted it". It's an application to irl.


Bernd 05/21/2019 (Tue) 20:29:42 [Preview] No.26311 del
>>26306
>language is pretty degenerate
I would argument that english is the most degenerate, masonic language


Bernd 05/21/2019 (Tue) 20:52:55 [Preview] No.26312 del
>>26311
John Dee probably did something to English, which is why pre-KJV English is so hard for some people to understand, and it's probably the reason why all European and especially Scandinavian languages are becoming Anglified.
For example, "fast food". "Fast food" in this context would usually mean to fast, to abstain from food, though "fast food" is actually indulging in food nowadays.
"Matter" i.e. material. The statement "this doesn't matter" would literally mean it isn't material, but "matter" in this case mean it doesn't mean anything or is pointless.
A bunch of other examples, but you get it.


Bernd 05/21/2019 (Tue) 20:55:08 [Preview] No.26313 del
>>26311
https://www.liveleak.com/c/crapcakes
This Lithuanian guy on LiveLeaks exposes occult languages all the time. He even talks about how most Lithuanians were ethnically replaced with Turks and gypsies during the Soviet occupation, and how nobody even talks about it.


Bernd 05/21/2019 (Tue) 21:27:09 [Preview] No.26314 del
>>26312
Also, another big example, "kill" meant "murder" in Elizabethan English. That's why the 6th commandment "Thou shalt not kill" in the KJV is actually supposed to be "Thou shalt not murder" but later the word "kill" was twisted to mean taking life regardless of the context.


Bernd 05/22/2019 (Wed) 05:00:41 [Preview] No.26315 del
>>26312
Well, fasting is abstaining from nourishment, fast food offers very little real nourishment. So practically the same.
Matter: "it isn't material" = nothing; if something "doesn't mean anything or pointless" than it's as if it was nothing. So even in the original meaning it's ok.

>>26313
>This Lithuanian guy
>Lithuanians were ethnically replaced with Turks and gypsies during the Soviet occupation
So he is a gypsy which means he is lying about all this. So he isn't which means he is right.


Bernd 05/22/2019 (Wed) 10:07:40 [Preview] No.26317 del
>>26312
didnt know who john dee was so I read his wiki

some things that stood out to me

"He was also an advocate of England's imperial expansion into a "British Empire", a term he is generally credited with coining"

this was when britain was piss poor and irrelevant. just read about this*.

and also

british empire

just looked at the hebrew words, and brit means covenant and ishi means people. bnai brith is another example.

that whole time period is interesting because so much happened. you had francis bacon who changed how the language english is**

"In the seventeenth century, Francis Bacon proposed that our written language switch to something like Chinese ideograms, bypassing words altogether"

isnt this whats been happening for the last...30 years? people are forming less and less coherent sentences, more "smileys", pepes and what not. just as they are degenerating our culture, or whats left of it, our language is being degraded to the lowest as well.


*https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sea_Dogs

**https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2016/10/31/a-language-to-unite-humankind


Bernd 05/22/2019 (Wed) 10:17:25 [Preview] No.26318 del
>>26313
didnt the soviets do that with everyone?


Bernd 05/22/2019 (Wed) 10:20:11 [Preview] No.26319 del
>>26314
>>26314
>KJV
I would say that in the time period they created the english language. before it was a mixture of germanic and celtic tongues. then they came out with the king james version. same thing in germany with luther.


Bernd 05/22/2019 (Wed) 14:25:05 [Preview] No.26322 del
>>26317
John Dee butchered Elizabethan English along with Bacon later on.
This is an old English dictionary from the 17th century:
https://archive.org/details//home/john/TheNewWorldOfEnglishWordsOrAGeneralDictionary1696/TheNewWorldOfEnglishWordsOrAGeneralDictionary1696.pdf
Notice how different things are, not the words themselves, but their meanings.
>isnt this whats been happening for the last...30 years? people are forming less and less coherent sentences, more "smileys", pepes and what not. just as they are degenerating our culture, or whats left of it, our language is being degraded to the lowest as well.
Exactly. Memes and such are basically masonic handshakes normalised for online communities. The imageboard format also damages your reading comprehension, with
<"TL;DR, I CAN'T READ A WALL OF TEXT"
etc.
Emoticons etc. are precisely what Bacon was talking about.


Bernd 05/22/2019 (Wed) 14:26:16 [Preview] No.26323 del
>>26318
Technically, yes. Even Germany.
>>26319
Yep.


Bernd 05/22/2019 (Wed) 18:28:05 [Preview] No.26338 del
>>26322
this post contains heavy amount of side effects of bible.


Bernd 05/22/2019 (Wed) 18:28:39 [Preview] No.26339 del
>>26322
its so insidious when you think about it. degrade the language and shorten the attention span so you have a caste of complete mumbling fools of peoples who can barely read a short sentence without loosing their attention.

its sad. dont you think.


Bernd 05/22/2019 (Wed) 18:29:46 [Preview] No.26340 del
>>26338
if you think he is bs you, look it up yourself without dropping some "smart ass" comment.


Bernd 05/22/2019 (Wed) 18:38:57 [Preview] No.26341 del
>>26340
>Memes and such are basically masonic handshakes normalised for online communities. The imageboard format also damages your reading comprehension..
404 not found? you guys take your tinfoils too seriously. like bible itself, there is no logic behind it just pure belief.


Bernd 05/22/2019 (Wed) 18:44:40 [Preview] No.26342 del
>>26341
>normalised for online communities
what part dont you understand?


Bernd 05/22/2019 (Wed) 19:11:49 [Preview] No.26344 del
>>26322
>>26339
You assume the average people are geniuses whose intelligence is getting taken away now.


Bernd 05/22/2019 (Wed) 19:14:47 [Preview] No.26345 del
for every second you've spent for reading this sentence, your mind is getting weaker and I as a sephardic jew with super rabbi powers influencing your brain and decisions.


Bernd 05/22/2019 (Wed) 19:18:58 [Preview] No.26346 del
first things commies did in russia was banning guns fucking up the language and ban books on logic in schools (cuz plebs don't need them obv)


Bernd 05/22/2019 (Wed) 19:21:58 [Preview] No.26348 del
>>26346
not saying russia wasn't a shithole before that tho


Bernd 05/22/2019 (Wed) 19:25:09 [Preview] No.26349 del
>>26346
I imagine in tsarist Russia the muzhik could just waltz into the Ammu Nation and buy Mosin.


Bernd 05/22/2019 (Wed) 19:28:50 [Preview] No.26351 del
>>26349
in fact you could walk with rifles near tzars (sometimes they just went to people and shit) because they weren't that much of fags back then


Bernd 05/22/2019 (Wed) 21:50:22 [Preview] No.26353 del
>>26351

There were regional restrictions for owning weapons, and after 1905 restriction became more serious.

But strict weapons regulations is actually are worldwide trend of 20th century, commies weren't too different than others in this.


Bernd 05/22/2019 (Wed) 21:54:34 [Preview] No.26354 del
>>26353
thats because communism took over in 20th century


Bernd 05/23/2019 (Thu) 09:20:16 [Preview] No.26368 del
>>26346
just a coincidence

>>26353
seems like sweden got weapon licence laws in 1934 before you could just pick it up in the store. some of the writers in the thread think its about stopping communists from obtaining it (lol)

http://forum.skalman.nu/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=40128&p=615911


Bernd 05/23/2019 (Thu) 12:51:48 [Preview] No.26380 del
>>26346
If I remember, they had an entire system dedicating to destroying the Ukrainian language. Hohols always get the worst stick, it seems.


Bernd 05/23/2019 (Thu) 15:14:28 [Preview] No.26387 del
>>26380
>they had
just say jews


Bernd 05/25/2019 (Sat) 10:18:51 [Preview] No.26567 del
tell me about the Witnesses
i was just spoken to for half an hour by one of their door to door salesmen


Bernd 05/25/2019 (Sat) 10:26:27 [Preview] No.26568 del
>>26567
what do you want to know


Bernd 05/25/2019 (Sat) 10:26:57 [Preview] No.26569 del
>>26568
anything?


Bernd 05/25/2019 (Sat) 10:33:13 [Preview] No.26571 del
>>26569
I was brought up as a jw ask your answers


Bernd 05/25/2019 (Sat) 10:36:33 [Preview] No.26573 del
>>26571
why are they so big, what's in for them [the corp]
afai got they scare you with their bs to get you to go along, is that it


Bernd 05/25/2019 (Sat) 10:41:42 [Preview] No.26574 del
>>26573
from what I know a conman started it all, then it just got bigger from there on. they make alot of money from realestate, building churches then selling it.

its a sect imo


Bernd 05/25/2019 (Sat) 11:20:27 [Preview] No.26581 del
>>26567
They gather desperate, oftentimes weak minded people, who happen to be at some dark place of their life, and make slave out of them for their church. At first they think they are saved, and do every menial and humiliating tasks they ordered to do, but then they realize they are trapped. They want to escape but the church will allow none if it.
Avoid them, Bernd. When they come, I just tell I'm not interested and say them goodby. I'm not rude with them, it's not just unnecessary but they are already hurting by life and their church.


Bernd 05/25/2019 (Sat) 11:21:53 [Preview] No.26582 del
>>26581
its amazing how many opinions you have on subjects you have no idea about


Bernd 05/25/2019 (Sat) 11:23:53 [Preview] No.26583 del
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>>26581
>At first they think they are saved, and do every menial and humiliating tasks they ordered to do, but then they realize they are trapped
This is what bothers me about cults like Mormons, JW, etc., no wonder most militant atheists come out of them. Pic related.


Bernd 05/25/2019 (Sat) 11:25:49 [Preview] No.26584 del
>jewhova's witnesses
>hq in jew york
wew


Bernd 05/25/2019 (Sat) 11:29:30 [Preview] No.26586 del
>>26583
the quote from the (((hungarian))) is not true though. there is alot of misconceptions about them.

"menial and humiliating task", this is some paprika delirium.


Bernd 05/25/2019 (Sat) 11:31:05 [Preview] No.26588 del
>>26583
and mormons, jw etc are usually very nice and hardworking (usually rich) people. big families etc


Bernd 05/25/2019 (Sat) 11:52:17 [Preview] No.26594 del
>>26588
Mormons are heavily into polygamy though, and they're not even Christians. It's basically a giant fanfiction religion with Joseph Smith (a freemason who literally tried to pass an Egyptian pagan book as the "Book of Abraham"), even Islam is more legitimate than Mormonism.
Maybe the freemasons pushed it so that they could replace Protestants in the American west, which is why the majority of it is either Catholic or Mormon.


Bernd 05/25/2019 (Sat) 11:53:54 [Preview] No.26595 del
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>>26594
He even took aspects of kabbalism and Islam. Seriously, does this guy look like a prophet to you?


Bernd 05/25/2019 (Sat) 11:54:09 [Preview] No.26596 del
>>26583


>>26582
>>26588
>>26588
Actually you are the one who talks out of his ass all the time, you remember that example when you claimed how Jews infiltrated the Swedish royal family and you were proved wrong properly.
I have enough experience about you to know you shouldn't be taken seriously. And the others see it too.
Now you can go ahead and cherrypick some Witnesses' big family and such.
>hardworking
They are exploited by their high ranking clergymen.


sage Bernd 05/25/2019 (Sat) 11:55:14 [Preview] No.26597 del
>>26596
Just disregard the reference to Danebernd.


Bernd 05/25/2019 (Sat) 12:02:31 [Preview] No.26599 del
>>26596
>Actually you are the one who talks out of his ass all the time
lies

Maybe you are autistic, sometimes people make jokes.
>>26596
>I have enough experience about you to know you shouldn't be taken seriously
ad hominem

>>26596
>And the others see it too.
Don't try to create cliques here, dude.

>>26596
>Now you can go ahead and cherrypick some Witnesses' big family and such.

Its not "cherrypicking".

>>26596
>They are exploited by their high ranking clergymen.

With your wealth of knowledge on everything from medicine to religions its suprising you arent the next messiah.


Bernd 05/25/2019 (Sat) 12:04:09 [Preview] No.26601 del
>>26594
I was commenting on the non religious aspect.


Bernd 05/25/2019 (Sat) 12:05:09 [Preview] No.26602 del
>>26601
Polygamy though.


Bernd 05/25/2019 (Sat) 12:06:17 [Preview] No.26603 del
>>26584
if you have any more questions I can answer them. I was as I said brought up in it, left when I reached adulthood. If I were you I would ignore the hungarian, he is an mumbling fool.


Bernd 05/25/2019 (Sat) 12:09:33 [Preview] No.26604 del
>>26599
>Maybe you are autistic, sometimes people make jokes.
Still you're the one who cannot recognize them.
>ad hominem
It's a conclusion and not an argument, so it can't be ad hominem.
>Don't try to create cliques here, dude.
I just pointed out they can read. I know you think you're very clever throwing back to me what I wrote before, sadly it just doesn't fit.
>Its not "cherrypicking".
As long as you don't try to show us big happy familes of Witnesses. Then it will.
>you arent the next messiah.
Who knows what the future holds.


Bernd 05/25/2019 (Sat) 12:16:14 [Preview] No.26605 del
>>26604
>I just pointed out they can read. I know you think you're very clever throwing back to me what I wrote before, sadly it just doesn't fit.

What is your purpose here? Im curious, because everything you wrote here for example is lies. Is it to stifle any kind of debate? Is it to just drown out any kind of discussions? Are you jewish?

>>26581


Bernd 05/25/2019 (Sat) 12:29:17 [Preview] No.26606 del
>>26602
miles mathis wrote a good piece on joseph smith, but I cant seem to find it.


Bernd 05/25/2019 (Sat) 18:04:26 [Preview] No.26630 del
>>26605
The problem is you give false warnings or make a conspiracy theory about all harmless things in the world, but when an actual harmful thing comes into the scene you try to endorse it, potentially misleading Bernds, right into the claws of a cult.
>lies
Not one.


Bernd 05/25/2019 (Sat) 18:29:08 [Preview] No.26633 del
>>26606
<>miles mathis

that fag who said ppl just ned to fuck more to solve all the problems?

is this a new hight of white ppls' philosophy?


Bernd 05/26/2019 (Sun) 05:42:48 [Preview] No.26644 del
>>26603
any property transfers?


Bernd 05/26/2019 (Sun) 15:58:06 [Preview] No.26663 del
>>26633
>white ppls' philosophy
All philosophy is bad though.


Bernd 05/27/2019 (Mon) 18:13:50 [Preview] No.26698 del
>>26663
>All philosophy is bad though.
Why?


Bernd 05/27/2019 (Mon) 18:23:56 [Preview] No.26700 del
>>26698
It's man attempting to gain Godly understanding with their own thinking, and gaining incredibly wicked ideas (Monism promoting the belief that God is everywhere in the universe and thus men being God). Most of our evil ideas today descend from Babylonian mystery schools via Pythagoras and the Greek philosophers.


Bernd 05/27/2019 (Mon) 18:32:21 [Preview] No.26701 del
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>>26700
>philosophy is man attempting to gain Godly understanding with their own thinking
>not man attempting to understand how the world and his thoughts work


Bernd 05/27/2019 (Mon) 18:36:38 [Preview] No.26702 del
>>26701
So basically man attempting to gain Godly understanding through their own thoughts which results in incredibly wicked shit.
Colossians 2:8


Bernd 05/27/2019 (Mon) 18:51:38 [Preview] No.26703 del
>>26700
But that thought originates from the Judaic branch of Christianity, other denominations who didn't endorse the Old Testament like Manicheism doesn't suffer from the regressive thought that man shouldn't seek the truth.
Ofc it is Middle Eastern origin, but just partially. Buddhism for example also seeks the enlightenment, the "final knowledge" so to speak.

>>26702
Colossians 2:8
"Be careful not to allow anyone to captivate you through an empty, deceitful philosophy that is according to human traditions and the elemental spirits of the world, and not according to Christ."
This just point out two philosophical trends and not philosophy in general. Those which "according to Christ" are fine. And these can be gnostic easily.


Bernd 05/27/2019 (Mon) 19:04:12 [Preview] No.26705 del
>>26703
>But that thought originates from the Judaic branch of Christianity, other denominations who didn't endorse the Old Testament like Manicheism doesn't suffer from the regressive thought that man shouldn't seek the truth.
Manichaeism is basically Zoroastrianism + Greco-Roman mysteries + Jesus on the other hand. It makes sense that it would have a more "gnostic" approach to seeking the truth, so to speak. Also, the two major Judaic sects at the time were the Pharisees and the Sadducees. Pharisees embedded elements into the oral law from Greek philosophy, while the Sadducees literally embedded their worldview on being more Greek both philosophically and culturally.
>This just point out two philosophical trends and not philosophy in general. Those which "according to Christ" are fine. And these can be gnostic easily.
It emphasises philosophy according to human traditions (which philosophy is) not to Christ (which would be the exact opposite, being the Godly understanding in this case)


Bernd 05/27/2019 (Mon) 20:08:41 [Preview] No.26706 del
>>26705
>Manicheism
It's syncretic true - just as Judeo-Christianity - still it really should be counted as a Christian denomination, even the Church itself is very much Christian. It was a heresy for western Christians not paganism or such and later spawns (I use this term since it wasn't really direct descendant) of Manicheism, like Bogumils were also counted as heresies.
>Colossians 2:8
I'm sure Augustine or Aquinas dabbled in the raison d'etre heh, learned something today of philosophy according to the Bible. I can't say they did ofc, but maybe someone better informed can correct me if they didn't.


Bernd 05/27/2019 (Mon) 20:18:58 [Preview] No.26707 del
>>26705
Oh sorry, you just tried to reason why wouldn't Manicheans were against seeking the knowledge. Never mind then.

Tho I still not sure why would you take the position that philosophy is bad.


Bernd 05/28/2019 (Tue) 07:16:09 [Preview] No.26712 del
>>26707
Because it's again, seeking to gain a Godly understanding via man's thoughts, which leads to incredibly wicked stuff.


Bernd 05/28/2019 (Tue) 21:12:19 [Preview] No.26713 del
>>26712
>which leads to incredibly wicked stuff.
But gaining real understanding shouldn't do that. One should get pure moral perspective. Liek if you become Buddha you'll leave that shit behind.
So the other way around, we ought to sought to seek.


Bernd 05/29/2019 (Wed) 00:27:43 [Preview] No.26716 del
>>26712
its not really a philosophy but any thingken process in fact

it just leads to nowhere especially if there are complexity human beings cant handle (so just about anything other than a small village)

examples are overengineering et cetera

ppl tried to solve this in systems theory in the 60s/70s but failed


Bernd 05/29/2019 (Wed) 00:57:05 [Preview] No.26717 del
>>26716
also before you say but muh math and physics are so complex!

they're self-verifying things
you cant fuck them up
this is why people were so succesful at them, because you just hack them until it works (and working process is not depending on you)
but when ppl try to actually build something or plan something they suck tremendously


Bernd 10/10/2019 (Thu) 21:42:08 [Preview] No.29825 del
Bibel.


Bernd 10/24/2019 (Thu) 11:08:25 [Preview] No.30871 del
>>26314
Can anyone post an elizabethan dictonary?


Bernd 02/19/2020 (Wed) 21:02:31 [Preview] No.34504 del
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Visited Ernst, and as I scrolled through the page I saw this in a "post random pics" thread. I dunno if this is a shoop (in Burgerland do they really have billboards with Biblical quotes?) or not, but in it's core doesn't really matter.
Harsh words, harsh words... what I don't get why people still care about them so much, the Old Testament is the past, we are living in the era of the New Testament, and this is the era of clemency. And not just simple clemency, but clemency and not expecting anything in return. Have these people never heard of Jesus?


Bernd 02/20/2020 (Thu) 21:01:01 [Preview] No.34525 del
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>>34504
>the Old Testament is the past, we are living in the era of the New Testament

Technically, Old Testament is still here, it wasn't "revoked" by new one, although it is somewhat implied by many Christians. They just trying to ignore obvious conceptual differences, instead of acknowledging that part of text is deprecated.

>in Burgerland do they really have billboards with Biblical quotes?

Considering that megachurches exist, existence of these boards isn't surprising. American culture is all about hyperbolization.


Bernd 02/21/2020 (Fri) 05:48:19 [Preview] No.34529 del
>>34504
I would like to interject for a moment.
>the Old Testament is the past, we are living in the era of the New Testament, and this is the era of clemency
Matthew 5:17-18
<17 Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.
<18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.
Colossians 2:16
<16 Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days:
Acts 24:1-6
<24 And after five days Ananias the high priest descended with the elders, and with a certain orator named Tertullus, who informed the governor against Paul.
<2 And when he was called forth, Tertullus began to accuse him, saying, Seeing that by thee we enjoy great quietness, and that very worthy deeds are done unto this nation by thy providence,
<3 We accept it always, and in all places, most noble Felix, with all thankfulness.
<4 Notwithstanding, that I be not further tedious unto thee, I pray thee that thou wouldest hear us of thy clemency a few words.
<5 For we have found this man a pestilent fellow, and a mover of sedition among all the Jews throughout the world, and a ringleader of the sect of the Nazarenes:
<6 Who also hath gone about to profane the temple: whom we took, and would have judged according to our law.
>Sect of the Nazarenes
>would have judged according to our law.
<For by hearing just the name of Jesus, and seeing the miracles the apostles performed, they came to faith in Jesus themselves. But they found that he had been conceived at Natzrat and brought up in Joseph's home, found that he had been conceived at Nazareth and brought up in Joseph’s home, and for this reason is called “Jesus the Nazarene” in the Gospel… they adopted this name, so as to be called ‘Nazarenes".
<“[The Nazarenes] are different from Jews, and different from Christians, only in the following ways. They disagree with Jews because of their belief in Christ; but they are not in accord with Christians because they are still fettered by the Law- circumcision, the Sabbath, and the rest.” – Epiphanius of Salamis, Panarion 29.7.5
<“To the Jews [the Nazarenes] are very much enemies. Not only do Jewish people bear hatred against them; they even stand up at dawn, at midday, and toward evening, three times a day when they recite their prayers in the synagogues, and curse and anathematize them, saying three times a day, ‘God curse the Nazarenes.’ For they harbor a further grudge against them, if you please, because despite their Jewish origin, they preach that Jesus is the Christ.” – Epiphanius of Salamis,Panarion 29.9.2-3
The New Testament does not ever abolish the Old Testament. That's just what Christians added in later on.


Bernd 02/21/2020 (Fri) 06:15:43 [Preview] No.34530 del
>>34525
>>34529
And here come the Pharisees splitting hairs based on the text.
Made me think tho, is there a more autistic religion than Judaism and it's sects?
Another thought, well let's make it two:
1. we need a CSS with better reverse meme arrow color;
2. I'll read those quotes in Hungarian, English translations are turd.


Bernd 02/21/2020 (Fri) 07:54:37 [Preview] No.34533 del
>>34529
>The New Testament does not ever abolish the Old Testament. That's just what Christians added in later on.

Of course doesn't, even "officially" in Christianity. You can't just deprecate sacred text when it is already established as pillar of faith. But in style and concept it is different and even contradictory sometimes.

Christians used local Jewish base for simple reason: in these times religious texts weren't just religion, but also history and law texts, i.e. they were some kind of universal rules for society. And it is very hard to preach a new teaching when you abandons the base - masses wouldn't understand you, especially in monotheistic society where rules about gods are pretty strict.

Same with Islam, technically it includes previous Judaic and Christian teachings, but really it is about Muhammad and Quran (with additional commentary). But they wouldn't say this.

>>34530
>1. we need a CSS with better reverse meme arrow color;

Yes, current orange is bad. Color must be much less bright. It must be a dark orange variation or completely different color (but not green).


Bernd 02/21/2020 (Fri) 11:00:46 [Preview] No.34537 del
>>34504
Context matters. I think in that verse God was talking about elimating the canaanites so the Israelites could have the land for themselves.


Bernd 02/21/2020 (Fri) 16:27:56 [Preview] No.34538 del
>>34537
Especially in that case Old Testament doesn't matter anymore. Salvation is for them too.


Bernd 02/22/2020 (Sat) 23:46:32 [Preview] No.34566 del
>>34538
But that verse has (probably) nothing to do with salvation. That God demanded someone to be put to death doesn't mean he's also getting eternity in hell. Maybe someone would even argue that their suffering merits them something after death but idk about that.

Anyway I also think throwing Old Testament away is an error. It gives a lot of context and understanding for what happens in the Gospels and there's also a lot of wisdom on its own. As for the harsh words and clemency you'll find them in both. I think two weeks ago at mass there was a reading from Old and New testament and basically it was a reverse of what people usually think about the two. In the fragment from the Old Testament there was a lot about mercy and forgiveness of God, meanwhile in the New Jesus was giving some strong words to the audience and they weren't Pharisees or something, just the local lowly folk. I think I could go through the mosaic law and find myself fitting for a death penalty for more then one rule breaking. But rather than getting offended or scared I now feel thankful that I am among the spared and can use that opportunity to better myself.

Also by the way this verse was quoted it looks like that bilboard was put by some kind of atheist organisation.


Bernd 03/01/2020 (Sun) 08:46:03 [Preview] No.34729 del
>>34525
>>34529
>>34533
>>34566
The more I think the more makes sense to detach the Old Testament or at least treat it as closed.
Are Christians Jews? Jews has to circumcise their newborn due to the sign of their covenant with their god. But Christians (with a few exceptions that chiefly specific to Africa) have a new covenant, they don't circumcise their kids penises (for religious reasons). Ofc there are great million old Jewish traditions and laws Christians don't have to follow, simply because those are the things of the past, but circumcision is a very significant one.
In case of Jesus' life, his words and deeds, he was born into the Judaic religious landscape, he interacted with Jews ofc there will be mentions of the Law. But his death and resurrection closes all that.
Paul had to do his work largely in the Judaic crowd, he had to talk about stuff they recognized and understood.
But this is Christianity, using the already established knowledge of the surrounding people and incorporating it into Christianity, most of Christianity is baptized elements of pagan beliefs. The first such was Judaism, which actually a foreign element in Christianity.
The story of Jesus, his fate (death and resurrection, the circle of life, the travel of the light through the darkness, the triumph of light over darkness, the Sun's rout over the sky and underworld, the day cycle, the year cycle etc.), didn't originate in Judaism, but the religions of the region between the Nile and the Indus. The first ones who recognized him as God or the son of God weren't Jews, but people in the East, where the three Magi came from, at least one of them from the Kushan Empire (I wrote elsewhere about the Ethiop-Kus* mixup). Jesus wasn't the son of Yahweh, but another reincarnation, another avatar of Vishnu - at least one of the Magi knew him like that (the others knew him on other names for sure). He sold to the people as son of Yahweh, because in that area that was the one known, and in the grand scheme of things that detail didn't really matter, it could be sacrificed for the greater good.
But if he was Vishnu, why he was born among the Jews? Because you need the light the most, where there is the most darkness. The light born "from" the darkness and defeats it. And in that place Jesus had to address the Jews in a language they understood, he had to add honey for the bitter pill of the truth.
So Christianity to be Christianity doesn't need The Old Testament. In fact it doesn't really need most what's in "Christianity" (I put this into quotes since the beliefs of the denominations differ a bit from each other). Protestantism spilled quite a few things out of the bowl of Catholicism and still remained Christianity.



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