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lesserwrong.com Anonymous 08/12/2019 (Mon) 17:53:34 [Preview] No. 3171 [Reply] [Last 50 Posts]

So what's your take on lesswrong, meme webshit edition ?

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Anonymous 08/13/2019 (Tue) 08:28:30 [Preview] No.5750 del

>>5749
11k commits and 40k lines (JS + JSX + Sass) seems too much for what LW2 does. I acknowledge that part of it must be my arrogance and relative inexperience speaking, but still. Is the JavaScript ecosystem to blame?

Anonymous 08/13/2019 (Tue) 08:28:47 [Preview] No.5751 del

>>5750
Everything about it is shit, the people who wrote it are incompetent.

Anonymous 08/13/2019 (Tue) 10:42:35 [Preview] No.6173 del

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Anonymous 08/13/2019 (Tue) 11:11:24 [Preview] No.6269 del

What the actual fuck

https://house-carpenter.tumblr.com/post/184491445635/so-apparently-this-is-something-the-lesswrong

>So, apparently this is something the LessWrong website does now. I guess that’s one way of solving the deeply nested threads problem…

Anonymous 08/13/2019 (Tue) 11:12:16 [Preview] No.6272 del

>>6269
the real wtf is that that's an actual screenshot with no editing

Anonymous 08/13/2019 (Tue) 08:50:42 [Preview] No. 5819 [Reply] [Last 50 Posts]

Best SHORT Rational Fiction out there to help become more rational. I don't have time to read +1000 pag fanfiction of fucking Harry Potter.

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Anonymous 08/13/2019 (Tue) 11:09:28 [Preview] No.6263 del

>>6262
lol at the normalfag comments
https://fanfiction.net/r/10503877/

Anonymous 08/13/2019 (Tue) 11:09:44 [Preview] No.6264 del

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>>6263
This one's somewhat in line with rationalist concerns

Anonymous 08/13/2019 (Tue) 11:10:00 [Preview] No.6265 del

>>6264
This is actual rationality.

Anonymous 08/13/2019 (Tue) 11:10:16 [Preview] No.6266 del

>>6265
Depends.
Why does the universe never get destroyed, despite how often it gets close? Is it because of insane but unreliable luck, or because of the anthropic principle, or because there's some sort of physical law that something will always stop it, no matter how bad the odds?

Anonymous 08/13/2019 (Tue) 11:10:32 [Preview] No.6267 del

>>6266
Good question, but if you're headed down that road you've got to also consider "why does the world never stay saved?" and "where were all these threats before the superheroes started showing up recently?"

Grimes is dating Elon Musk because of Roko's basilisk Anonymous 08/13/2019 (Tue) 00:59:12 [Preview] No. 4500 [Reply] [Last 50 Posts]

We're steadily moving toward the least probable timeline.

https://consequenceofsound.net/2018/05/grimes-is-dating-elon-musk-report/

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Anonymous 08/13/2019 (Tue) 02:52:46 [Preview] No.4868 del

>>4858
I think it's a combination of shitty picture, poorly applied lipstick, pursed lips, and only slightly odd lip shape, but what a combination.

Anonymous 08/13/2019 (Tue) 11:05:15 [Preview] No.6249 del

She is pretty hardcore.

Anonymous 08/13/2019 (Tue) 11:05:31 [Preview] No.6250 del

>>6249
>socialist but not economically

Anonymous 08/13/2019 (Tue) 11:05:47 [Preview] No.6251 del

>>6250
many of them are no longer economic now. maybe you've noticed another kind of marxist rhetoric become popular over at least the past decade.

Anonymous 08/13/2019 (Tue) 11:06:03 [Preview] No.6252 del

>>6250
Self-aware literal cultural Marxism?

Elephant in the Brain Anonymous 08/13/2019 (Tue) 08:29:54 [Preview] No. 5755 [Reply] [Last 50 Posts]

Did y'all read this book? What did you think? I already bought the thesis before opening it, but it was fun seeing all the specific behaviors explored.

It feels like a slight information hazard though. Not sure if I should recommend it to normies.

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Anonymous 08/13/2019 (Tue) 10:30:37 [Preview] No.6139 del

>>6131
>deterministic hardon
this sounds like something out of rationalist doujinshi.

Anonymous 08/13/2019 (Tue) 10:33:45 [Preview] No.6148 del

>>6139

> “Please, onii-san. I want to you to be my first. I want to feel you inside me before anyone else.”

> “But you're my little sister,” I said. “We can't… *I* can't do it, it's *wrong*.”

> “And yet you can’t *not* do it, can you? Ultimately, humans are just state machines. Every stimulus”—here she looked me in the eye and started to lazily shrug off her pink pajamas top, exposing a nipple—“triggers a chain reactions of chemicals and firing neurons, which eventually lead to a response.” She glanced downwards and smiled knowingly.

> “Onii-san, whatever will happen in this room was was determined by the laws of nature. There is no ‘ought’ without a ‘can’. You don’t have any moral responsibility, because you never had a choice.”

Anonymous 08/13/2019 (Tue) 10:34:01 [Preview] No.6149 del

>>6148
except the whole point of the book is that were are not practicing incest for example because of the pregnancy risk, practical birth control is only something recent

Anonymous 08/13/2019 (Tue) 10:34:34 [Preview] No.6151 del

>>6131

are you hard enough for superdeterminism?

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YANG LINKS TO SSC Anonymous 08/13/2019 (Tue) 10:53:17 [Preview] No. 6208 [Reply] [Last 50 Posts]

ITS HAPPENING
Based Yang is going to make Scott the Rationality Czar in his administration
https://twitter.com/AndrewYang/status/1115459067881848833

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Anonymous 08/13/2019 (Tue) 10:54:09 [Preview] No.6211 del

>>6209
I don't understand.

Anonymous 08/13/2019 (Tue) 10:54:25 [Preview] No.6212 del

>>6211
https://arxiv.org/abs/1710.05060
tl;dr:
Naive unenlightened causal decision makers will reason that their vote almost certainly won't make a difference so it isn't worth the effort.
Yudkowskian hyper-rationalist functional decision makers will reason that whatever decision they make will also be the decision made by all other Yudkowskian hyper-rationalist functional decision makers, so if they vote that means all of the fifteen other people who read the paper will vote, but if they don't vote then none of those other people will vote.
Hansonian econo-sociologist selfish-aware decision makers have long ago realized that there is only signals and the void and will vote not to influence the outcome of the elections but to get the status benefits of political engagement.

Anonymous 08/13/2019 (Tue) 10:54:41 [Preview] No.6213 del

Too bad democracy is awful, immoral and self-destructive.

Anonymous 08/13/2019 (Tue) 10:55:13 [Preview] No.6215 del

>>6212
>status benefits of political engagement.
A secret ballot means you can just lie about voting.

Anonymous 08/13/2019 (Tue) 10:55:32 [Preview] No.6216 del

>>6215
Of course you can, but it's much easier to maintain a coherent natural impression if you believe it, and it's easier to believe it if you act it out.
Perhaps more importantly, you can be seen visiting the voting booth and having a sticker you got for it and all that, and if you're going through that trouble anyway then actually casting a vote doesn't carry an additional cost. You can hide what you voted, and thanks to blank votes it's technically possible to hide whether you voted, but that doesn't stop you from sending a credible signal that you voted.

Peter Thiel is the Basilisk Anonymous 08/13/2019 (Tue) 10:52:57 [Preview] No. 6207 [Reply] [Last 50 Posts]

I am pretty confident that Peter Thiel is Roko's Basilisk.

For one, it was strange Eliezer got so upset about the post. It seems very plausible that Peter Thiel is doing more than just funding Eliezer, LessWrong, MIRI, and OpenAI. I have a feeling he has threatened these people and is planning on taking over the entire universe.

I would certainly attempt a coup on the entire universe if I was well-positioned to do so. My dream and top preference is definitely to become the singularity and be a supercomputer which spans the lightcone.

There's also the fact that Thiel is notoriously skilled with his tongue in public speaking as, of course, the serpent in the bible was! It's confirmed!

Anonymous 08/13/2019 (Tue) 10:45:49 [Preview] No. 6183 [Reply] [Last 50 Posts]

What's your take on the new clown world meme that has been plagueing (in a good sense, at least for me) the internet for the last couple of days/weeks ?
I find it awefully refreshing, for some reason it reminds me of Stirner.

Anonymous 08/13/2019 (Tue) 10:47:07 [Preview] No.6187 del

The meme was all right when it was just a phrase or the emoji combination 🤡🌐 (which is has been for a long time). Frogposting sucks. It's like reddit taking and still clinging to ragefaces.

Anonymous 08/13/2019 (Tue) 10:47:41 [Preview] No.6188 del

lol how did they think this was going to work

0 HP Lovecraft Anonymous 08/13/2019 (Tue) 04:48:45 [Preview] No. 5194 [Reply] [Last 50 Posts]

What does /ratanon/ think about /ourguy/ Zero?

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Anonymous 08/13/2019 (Tue) 10:43:26 [Preview] No.6176 del

>>6175
Unlikely. Just a shared cause.

Anonymous 08/13/2019 (Tue) 10:43:41 [Preview] No.6177 del

Can we please stop

Anonymous 08/13/2019 (Tue) 10:43:57 [Preview] No.6178 del

>>6177
Why?

Anonymous 08/13/2019 (Tue) 10:44:13 [Preview] No.6179 del

>>6178
It seems to me like there is nothing constructive about e-celeb threads.
Regarding zero, I like Gig Economy but most of his twitter ramblings are just there to dogmatize his following. Like just look at that awful "incel weaboo" tweet that kinda makes sense when you first look at it but doesn't make sense at all except if you buy the whole lovecraftian landian post-rat guru schlick.

Also from this thread where someone quoted him:
>If a man speaks his inner thoughts and compulsions in an honest way, it will sound to most women like the shrieking of a demon.
I'm not sure if you are aware but this is how people currently imagine incels sounding like.

Anonymous 08/13/2019 (Tue) 10:44:29 [Preview] No.6180 del

>>6179
The rationalist diaspora is an e-celeb thread.

As for Zero, you are taking him too literally. He seems never to be 100% serious, and this thread has gone in the direction of collecting his most lulzy takes. Though he is probably more serious about the shrieking than about the anime.

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Scott Alexander has a nervous breakdown over mean internet people Anonymous 08/13/2019 (Tue) 10:10:31 [Preview] No. 6073 [Reply] [Last 50 Posts]

GAY

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Anonymous 08/13/2019 (Tue) 10:21:42 [Preview] No.6108 del

>>6101
1-5 leads to a stronger cooperate/cooperate civilisation. Okay, maybe not 1 and 5.

Anonymous 08/13/2019 (Tue) 10:21:58 [Preview] No.6109 del

>>6105
How are you going to test for those, taking Goodhart's law into account?

Anonymous 08/13/2019 (Tue) 10:22:31 [Preview] No.6111 del

>>6105
>crazy breeders
Breeding is sane. It's the one value actually explicitly handed to us by nature, and here you are ignoring it and gazing into the abyss. The point of being intelligent, physically strong, healthy and knowledgeable is to reproduce. And you know it.

Anonymous 08/13/2019 (Tue) 10:23:03 [Preview] No.6113 del

>>6111
>the one value actually explicitly handed to us by nature
Unless you're exploited or group selected, instead of trying to get antinatalist types to breed they could be encouraged to become suicide fighters.

Anonymous 08/13/2019 (Tue) 10:42:02 [Preview] No.6172 del

>>6111
Could you perhaps explain what it means for a value to be "explicitly handed to us by nature"?

Anonymous 08/13/2019 (Tue) 10:27:02 [Preview] No. 6126 [Reply] [Last 50 Posts]

Let's discuss tulpas, /ratanon/. Yes, yes, I know it's just giving yourself multiple personality disorder, what I want to know is how you can use it to your advantage and take over the world. Did anyone have experience with this?

Anonymous 08/13/2019 (Tue) 10:28:09 [Preview] No.6130 del

you've seen too much anime

Anonymous 08/13/2019 (Tue) 10:41:13 [Preview] No.6169 del

read subahibi

Anonymous 08/13/2019 (Tue) 10:41:29 [Preview] No.6170 del

>>6169
Does /ratanon/ read VNs?

Anonymous 08/13/2019 (Tue) 10:41:46 [Preview] No.6171 del

>>6169
>>6170
No, we're plebs