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Art Thread Bernd 02/20/2018 (Tue) 06:07:48 [Preview] No. 13750 [Reply] [Last 50 Posts]
I am not an expert on art. /disclaimer

Part of one of my high school spanish classes dealt mainly with learning about various "spanish" artists in spanish. The first of which was El Greco was probably my favorite. What led me to re-visit this subject was a hand symbol in one his portraits that pops up in a couple other of his paintings and what it's meaning is. My teacher explained it as being a secret sign christians used during their persecution, but that didn't make too much sense to me for a variety of reasons, and it seems to be a mystery still.

http://www.darkfiber.com/pz/chapter1.html
This site seems to go quite in detail into the matter.
His most notable peculiarity in painting was when depicting religious scenes or figures they'd be normally quite elongated and sometimes downright unnatural looking which drew the ire of some at the time but his natural scenes were depicted in a natural and realistic manner.
Included are a couple of triptychs:
>A work, such as an altarpiece, consisting of three painted or carved panels that are hinged together.
These are attributed to him and are circa 1568. They lack the elongated figures of a lot of his works but pre-date a alot of the ones I found with such features by about 10 years, so they may in fact be his after all, like I said I'm no expert.

I came to find out looking further into it that he, and probably other artists as well, who would paint or sculpt for churches were usually involved in much more than just doing some paintings or frescoes. He did a lot of wooden sculpting and created altars and other decorations for various churches reportedly, but they were wood and none of them apparently survived. Wikipedia says there is a sculpture but I couldn't find a picture of it.
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As you can see these works of art are nowhere in the same league with what OP's posted but nevertheless creative and at least on the same level as the anus painter guy's pictures. Well I think these are better than those actually.


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These images surely grab the essence of some slices of everyday life, be it entertainment, relaxation, body functions or the stressful struggle of standing in a queueueueueueue.


Bernd 02/21/2018 (Wed) 17:07:42 [Preview] No.13778 del
That's all btw. I hope I'll find something more dignified to post in the future.


Bernd 02/22/2018 (Thu) 06:56:01 [Preview] No.13796 del
>>13782
YIIISISSSSSS



israel is literally hitler threda Bernd 12/07/2017 (Thu) 08:51:54 [Preview] No. 12408 [Reply] [Last 50 Posts]
I am going to start with a new possible thread.

https://www.rt.com/news/412084-trump-israel-capital-jerusalem/
https://www.rt.com/news/412251-hamas-calls-intifada-israel/

Religion of peace is peacefully resisting Zionist imperialism again.
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Bernd 02/21/2018 (Wed) 19:06:24 [Preview] No.13786 del
https://youtube.com/watch?v=Chzwlm79a-Y [Embed]
fucking lmao
it's time for poland to invade usa and throw all those evil pepo to jail!


Bernd 02/21/2018 (Wed) 19:39:02 [Preview] No.13787 del
>>13786
So, do they got beer in Polish death camps jails?


Bernd 02/21/2018 (Wed) 23:46:56 [Preview] No.13792 del
>>13786
I see it was hidden or something so here's hooktube link
https://hooktube.com/watch?v=Chzwlm79a-Y

>>13787
only carbonated drinks
it's supposed to be a joke but sadly english language destroys it


Bernd 02/22/2018 (Thu) 06:46:25 [Preview] No.13794 del
>>13792
>it's supposed to be a joke
I know. What I wrote was a joke too.
I don't know much about Polish prisons but I do know it have to be similar to Hungarian ones where noone gets anything alcoholic.


Bernd 02/22/2018 (Thu) 06:50:09 [Preview] No.13795 del
>>13792
That link doesn't work either. Not in FF, Palemoon and Chromium. First two says wrong mime type which is nonsense it should work with mp4 and webm both but it's don't. Download gives 403 error.



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Syria War thread Bernd 09/10/2017 (Sun) 20:54:54 [Preview] No. 10248 [Reply] [Last 50 Posts]
Because rondam news is too small to contain it

ISIS in Deir ez-Zor got almost rekt, siege is broken.

YPG forces started their own offensive and arrived in north of Deir ez-Zor.
>US-Led Coalition ‘Will Not Allow’ Syrian Army To Cross Euphrates River In Deir Ezzor
https://twitter.com/southfronteng/status/906624779997765632
wew
I except they start fighting with each other soon, maybe even tomorrow, while ISIS will occasionaly bomb a car or a tank on both sides.

ISIS in eastern Homs are getting gradually removed and hopefully soon they will be containet in the east.

There was something about Israel entering Lebanon air space and Syria reacting with anti air defence but sadly I lost link to proofs.

Link to map
https://syria.liveuamap.com/
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Bernd 02/19/2018 (Mon) 06:36:39 [Preview] No.13733 del
>>13713
Even RT couldn't come up with proofs yet.
https://www.rt.com/news/419171-deal-syria-troops-afrin-kurds-deployment/
So they held talks that's for sure, the YPG claims they have a deal, which understandable as they can use the news to delay Turks and their allies. Syrian government said nothing, maybe because they haven't reached agreement yet and time works for them as the longer they delay the Kurds will be more desperate and give in for less.
Anyway the region is rightful Syrian clay, so the Turks couldn't enter there without violating Syria's sovereignty. Probably that's why they use their rebel allies as ground forces and they might be just shelling and sending airstrikes (I might be wrong here I dunno what's the Turkish army really do, in the map here >>13707 there's a blue gun in the north east, I don't remember that piece news itself, I also don't know what those Turkish observation points really influence in this situation).
For the SAA Afrin could be a new direction toward Idlib.
>The offensive will allow some 500,000 displaced Syrians to return to their homes in Afrin
Please no, send them to EU, we need more doctors and engineers.


Bernd 02/20/2018 (Tue) 18:48:01 [Preview] No.13761 del
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It's still unsure what's gonna happen in Afrin but it appears the Kurds there and Damascus made a deal.
https://www.rt.com/news/419337-syrian-fighters-enter-afrin-turkey/
https://www.rt.com/news/419335-syria-turkey-kurds-afrin/

Of course no Russian military personnel died on the Deir ez-Zor front, evil Americans are killing tourists and businessmen.
https://www.rt.com/news/419325-syria-russian-nationals-killed/


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>>13761
Much more interesting is what would Russia do if SAA and Afrin Kurds made deal. Would it confront Turkey directly with air support? I guess not, "big" countries try to avoid others in this conflict, it is serious political thing. Talks between Russia and Turkey in Astana also happened recently and it looks like they have some agreement already.

Will it be independent action of Assad, like SAA+YPG vs FSA+Turkey while others (USA, Russia) watch? Or Turkey will stop in border regions (sometimes it looks like that was the plan) and it will be FSA-only fight?


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Those NDF fighters defended the Nubl and Zahraa pocket for years, with Afrin as their only non-hostile borders. From their perspective, this participation is also a form of returning the favor.

It won't be enough, though, as the roaches keep advancing. I've noticed a pattern: they're focusing on securing the border rather than following the most logical invasion route (Jindires->Afrin). Maybe the T*rkish backup plan in the event of a failure is to at least have a buffer zone at the border? Erdogan would then be claim a "victory" due to PKK-tied forces no longer being at his border, which was the casus belli all along.

>>13789
What makes this strange is that Turkey had been diplomatically drifting closer to Russia for a while.

There are more news: East Ghouta is getting bombed hard as a massive offensive begins. To the north, rebels in the Greater Idlib have once again returned to their daily routine of infighting, with the "Syrian Liberation Front" (3-day old merger of Ahrar al-Sham and the al-Zenki movement) attacking HTS.


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>>13791
>What makes this strange is that Turkey had been diplomatically drifting closer to Russia for a while.

Turkey-Russia relations are very strange at all. Turks were friendly, then they shot down Russian plane (and this wasn't an accident), then suddenly friendly again. Was Erdogan so afraid after that coup so he is ready to piss NATO allies? Or American support of Kurds angered him so much?

>Maybe the T*rkish backup plan in the event of a failure is to at least have a buffer zone at the border?

I think this was the plan from start. Maybe Turkish army isn't the best army in the world, but they surely could take Afrin in a week or two if they decided to push seriously. Also these sudden observation posts. Pretty shady activities.



bolitics serios discussion – edició català Bernd 09/13/2017 (Wed) 16:32:06 [Preview] No. 10368 [Reply] [Last 50 Posts]
Catalans have been acting pretty edgily lately. (note the correct usage of adverb there, and not the adjective) Their parliament apparently wants to illegally hold a binding referendum on independence, which is against the Spanish constitution.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catalan_independence_referendum,_2017

Let's see what the Russian proofsters report on that.

https://www.rt.com/news/402306-catalonia-referendum-law-parliament/
https://www.rt.com/news/402981-catalonia-national-day-independence/

Interdasting. It would seem the date is 1st of October. Until then, we can expect lots of backpedaling. But let us be surprised and hope something actually happens this time.
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Bernd 01/20/2018 (Sat) 08:56:13 [Preview] No.13184 del
>>13156
Times are changing.

>>13157
What I notice is that the original ideals and principles aren't matter anymore those who are in the positions of power point at the letter of the law: "It's unconstitutional!" if something comes up they don't like or would undermine their power. Also they aren't capable of coming up solutions for new challenges they try to solve the problems from the book, from what's written, from the work of people of earlier times who faced different challenges.
It's like when the Jews worshiped God, who gave them Laws, then they kept the Laws, then the Laws became more important then God, and now they worship the Laws since then.
And they couldn't understand that the will of God changed and they couldn't understand what God told them via Jesus. They couldn't manage the situation arose they couldn't let their influence dwindle with the Laws overridden so they cried for the murder of his on the basis of "muh Laws". They could have embrace the changes and lead themm, that way they could have kept the power but they were shortsighted and petty just like our small-minded functionaries in power. Who will be Europe's Jesus I wonder.


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Bernd 02/06/2018 (Tue) 19:42:46 [Preview] No.13553 del
>>13543
>within the framework of the constitution
I see they keep the lamest excuse ever close at hand.


>this republican framework does not allow us to say ‘yes’ to certain demands, such as on residency rights or recognizing Corsican as the official language alongside French.
Let's see:
https://www.constituteproject.org/constitution/France_2008
>The language of the Republic shall be French.
It doesn't say: The language of the Republic shall be French and only French nothing else.


Bernd 02/21/2018 (Wed) 21:06:59 [Preview] No.13788 del
Some times ago we had a discussion about making democracies absolutely direct with the help of technology, everyone could have the option to vote on the matters of the state and nations.
Now I'm throw out the raw idea. How about making the public servants - especially those public servants who are on the top positions of the governing body - daily job entirely public with the help of technology big brother style? From their election/appointment they aren't private individuals anymore by any law (at least here), and their accountability should be a top priority. With 24/7 accessible video feeds they sure would put effort into their job and keep their theft at minimum levels. Of course some of their life, for example the time they spend with their families could be private, in regard to the right of privacy of their family members as they aren't public office holders (usually).


Bernd 02/21/2018 (Wed) 21:57:02 [Preview] No.13790 del
>>13788
I'm ok with this tech but only if remote controlled electroshock will be possible. By viewers vote, for example.



Goodnight /kc/, /int/ and /whatever/ Bernd 10/14/2017 (Sat) 07:02:11 [Preview] No. 11171 [Reply] [Last 50 Posts]
Last night I've this genius idea which will revolutionize goodnightposting.
Nod really.
Post images depicting sleeping figures or dreams or such you come across wherever.
They shouldn't have to be wallpaper size.
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Bernd 02/15/2018 (Thu) 20:23:31 [Preview] No.13690 del
>>13688
The second one is definitely a miniature and probably the first one too.
The dragon in medieval times symbolized the Devil, something evil, materiality or physical desire. He's a "wurm", a snake, a phallic symbol. An example for this aspect is St George who saves the grill from her or even his own sexual urges by defeating the dragon.
So by your description that picture can depict two stories:
1. someone was fucking the Queen who wasn't the King
2. the King saw the Queen as an evil temptress who made his dragon hard one too many times, basically the depiction of one of the Seven Deadly Sins, Lust.

Btw, does Noah charms the animals with his magical hand signal or he's a gangbanger Crip?


Bernd 02/15/2018 (Thu) 20:44:32 [Preview] No.13692 del
>>13688
>>13690
Welp, that's actually God and not Noah.
>Plaque with God Creating the Animals
>Date: 1084
>Geography: Made in Amalfi
>Culture: South Italian
>Medium: Ivory
>Dimensions: Overall: 4 3/16 x 4 3/16 x 5/16 in. (10.7 x 10.6 x 0.8 cm)


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Bernd 02/21/2018 (Wed) 18:55:36 [Preview] No.13785 del
>>13688
Delivered here: >>13782



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Dvorak Bernd 01/26/2018 (Fri) 05:28:20 [Preview] No. 13318 [Reply] [Last 50 Posts]
I'm learning the Dvorak layout. Wish me best wishes, fam. At the moment I'm doing home row exercises, repeating all of them until I get to the point of getting at least 25 wpm with no mistakes. My keyboard, Mistel Barocco ergonomic split (the best keyboard money can buy), has a neat feature that allows you to switch between layouts by hitting Fn + a.
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Bernd 02/21/2018 (Wed) 17:22:26 [Preview] No.13779 del
>>13773
Entire bottom row memorized. This message was written entirely in dvorak :^)


Bernd 02/21/2018 (Wed) 17:28:31 [Preview] No.13780 del
>>13779
Good job.

>>13773
>a day to memorize the top row
Not to shabby.


Bernd 02/21/2018 (Wed) 17:54:25 [Preview] No.13781 del
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This is the scientific graph depicting the difficulty over time.


Bernd 02/21/2018 (Wed) 18:22:03 [Preview] No.13783 del
>>13781
This is an observation of yours based on the data you collected during your research or an official scale the Dvorak Mastering Institute presents?


Bernd 02/21/2018 (Wed) 18:32:44 [Preview] No.13784 del
>>13783
100% official from all universities. I crossed checked it with my own data and found an exact match. The scientific papers validating this data can be found on MIT's website.



wetter threda Bernd 09/05/2017 (Tue) 16:39:44 [Preview] No. 9926 [Reply] [Last 50 Posts]
anyone else following weather and shit?

current proceedings: Irma is now cat 5, expected to trail just north of Greater Antilles and south of Florida. Jose following close by in similar track. hoping for a nice show and responsible damage control in affected parts Haiti get your shit together

websites for tracking tropical cyclones:
http://tropic.ssec.wisc.edu/
http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/
http://moe.met.fsu.edu/cyclonephase/
<but I don't understand technical terms and shit, I need something for keins
https://www.accuweather.com/en/hurricane

general websites:
https://www.ecmwf.int/
http://en.sat24.com/
http://www.noaa.gov/
<for keins
https://www.accuweather.com/en/weather-news
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Bernd 02/19/2018 (Mon) 10:49:46 [Preview] No.13741 del
>>13739
me to budy


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It's possible that some new pressure records will be set. Models indicate high of around 1060mbar; current record is 22–23 January 1907 in Pärnu, Estonia and Riga, Latvia at 1067.1mbar, with some higher but unconfirmed measurements reported. However the center will be over Scandinavia this time, where record measurements were (during the same event): Norway: 23 January 1907, Dalen, Telemark 1061.3mbar; Sweden: 23 January 1907 in Kalmar and Visby 1063.7mbar; Finland: 22 January 1907, Helsinki 1066mbar. At least the Norway record might fall.


Bernd 02/21/2018 (Wed) 11:44:52 [Preview] No.13771 del
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Damn, those temperature anomalies!


Bernd 02/21/2018 (Wed) 16:49:37 [Preview] No.13774 del
>>13771
>>13772
Finally. We're gonna have trüe winter. Now that winter comes to its end.



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las noticias internacionales - al azar Bernd 12/27/2017 (Wed) 15:22:43 [Preview] No. 12757 [Reply] [Last 50 Posts]
This just in...
After the restoration of the Austro-Hungarian Empire two great nation found each other, the Polish and the Brazilian. Unquestionable support of the True Faith and hot grills are just two of many values these countries share not to mention economic similarities between North Brazil and Eastern Poland. Don't forget to invest there, good people.
Top level diplomats on both sides recognized the necessity of unification of the two countries. However Divine Signs imply the time isn't here yet the process has to be postponed until the alignment of the Statues of Christ is right.



In other news...
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Bernd 02/15/2018 (Thu) 21:28:01 [Preview] No.13694 del
>>13684
Yep. But we're too fast to blame everything on global warming (especially just CO₂ emissions), and completely ignore other causes. And if we ignore specific causes, it means we can't address them properly, which means we can't fix the problems.


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>>13747
Why Germany needs army? Even such unequipped force is enough to act against any large terrorist or insurgent group. In case of hypothetical big non-nuclear war, NATO (i.e. USA) will come and try to save their asses anyway. Local war with neighbor is unrealistic, who would attack Germany in 21st century Europe?

>5,000-strong high-readiness force

Oh please.


Bernd 02/20/2018 (Tue) 06:26:34 [Preview] No.13751 del
>>13748
>gun-stabilizer
I thought that soldier needs a drink to hold his gun stable enough.
>Why Germany needs army?
Maybe it's an obligation of the NATO contract. Last year Trump complained other members don't spend enough on their forces. The USA don't want a one member alliance, they have fingers in too many pies already all around the world.
Why I would keep an army if I was in the place of the Germans? Because one thing is permanent in this world: everything changes. Maybe today they live in peace with their neighbours tomorrow could be war everywhere. Those countries who leave themselves to other countries mercy are finished countries Very good example is Hungary just right before she got Trianoned. But this is a long story.
Also building up an army from nothing when in need costs way more than if something already available.


Bernd 02/21/2018 (Wed) 07:47:16 [Preview] No.13769 del
>>13751
>I thought that soldier needs a drink to hold his gun stable enough.

It is seen from thumbnail that it is German video, not Russian.

>Maybe it's an obligation of the NATO contract. Last year Trump complained other members don't spend enough on their forces. The USA don't want a one member alliance, they have fingers in too many pies already all around the world.

Yes, it is more like official reason to have an army. But actually they (Germans) know, that army is pretty much meaningless for them at this time, so they cut spending and stop caring.

And Trump may say anything, but in foreseeable future USA will be the only real powerful member of NATO.

>Why I would keep an army if I was in the place of the Germans? Because one thing is permanent in this world: everything changes.

I don't think that modern politicians can think about future like that, especially in Europe. Especially in Germany, where they didn't even care about results of uncontrolled mass migration. Of course, if I would be a leader of Germany, I'd made proper army. It also a way to stimulate local industry with large amount of money without competition problems.



koryŏ watch threda Bernd 06/26/2017 (Mon) 17:19:30 [Preview] No. 8410 [Reply] [Last 50 Posts]
today as I've been reading the best source of PROOFS (I mean, they're funded by a government, they literally can't be biased) I noticed this
https://www.rt.com/news/394082-south-korea-kim-assassination/
>Former South Korean President Park Geun-hye was making plans to assassinate North Korean leader Kim Jong-un

since koryŏ has been quite busy lately I think it warrants a specific thread
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Bernd 02/10/2018 (Sat) 15:24:36 [Preview] No.13606 del
>>13599
God, she's cute.


Bernd 02/10/2018 (Sat) 15:44:13 [Preview] No.13607 del
>>13606
I thought she'll be fat. I don't like her ear but otherwise agreed. In the first video something falls down and she's not lazy to bow down to pick it up... I take it as a good sign.

Also lolwut:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S%C3%A1ndor_Liu_Shaolin


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>>13594
qts ski jumping tomorrow, trial round starting 12:35, competition scheduled 13:50 (the only relevant timezone: CET)
https://www.pyeongchang2018.com/en/game-time/results/OWG2018/en/ski-jumping/result-ladies-normal-hill-individual-fnl-0001sj-.htm

good luck finding a stream though, RTVSLO 2 will play it live, but eurosport only says
>SKI JUMPING (38min) 2:52 PM
so I presume only final round?


Bernd 02/21/2018 (Wed) 06:39:19 [Preview] No.13767 del
The US is trying to drive the wedge into the Bridge of Peace the two Korea found together.
https://www.rt.com/usa/419395-pyongyang-pence-olympics-meeting/


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>>13634
Haven't seen anything from the Olympics...



Bernd 08/30/2017 (Wed) 21:03:54 [Preview] No. 9849 [Reply] [Last 50 Posts]
Let's have an informative thread about each country's electoral geography and how it ties to demography, regionalism and so on.

Brazil's sharp blue state/purple state/red state divide, which only emerged from 2006 onwards, has been talked about a lot; Geocurrents had two excellent articles about it. I won't talk about the basics, as they're already covered well enough. But Martin W. Lewis has missed some things.

First of all, party loyalties at the state level do make a difference. This factor isn't as strong as it used to be in the Old/Oligarchic Republic period (1889-1930), when the entire national political process was centered on state-level loyalties, but is still felt in some states.
Rio Grande do Sul's leftist past mentioned in his article is a legacy of the state's social democratic loyalties. As they leaned towards a different, non Workers Party string of social democracy (see Leonel Brizola, the leftist who famously called Lula a "bearded frog") that has been defeated and cucked by the PT, their support for Lula gradually faded away.
São Paulo is an even better example: the entire state is radically anti-PT and anti-leftist, and has had fought to install its distinct political views on the federal government for over a century, to the point of fighting a civil war in 1932 when it was evicted from a decade-long liberal hegemony.

Another important point is that the hinterland has some distinct electoral factors absent from the densely populated coastal states the northernmost two still count as hinterland; Lewis shrugs off Roraima as an irrelevant case, but it expresses the same factors he covered about Mato Grosso.

What the hinterland states have in common is that their vast swathes of desolate savanna and jungle have experienced continuous waves of settlement and economic development since the last century. Thus, they have three dynamics that impact their voting:
>Highly profitable agricultural frontier areas versus poor traditional communities
>Expanding ethnic Brazilian settlement versus native communities and their reserve areas, with leftist governments backing the natives;
>Land reform, local political machines controlled by the rural upper class, peasant-landowner class conflict, far-left movements that claim to represent the landless invading and damaging property everywhere and so on

I know some of this personally, as I have an uncle who moved a couple decades ago to become a landowner in the hinterland; whenever he visits us, he complains about gun control and ignorant gringos/southeeasterners who know nothing about his situation, but constantly shill for environmentalism, natives, land reform and so on.

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Bernd 02/04/2018 (Sun) 17:49:17 [Preview] No.13527 del
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>>13514
Wow! Such dynamic, such overwhelming flare. Oh my God, I want to go voting and I want to vote on them!

>>13516
Those are short separate blocks edited together for the sake of the video or that 9 min went down as a whole on TV?


Bernd 02/04/2018 (Sun) 21:18:04 [Preview] No.13531 del
>>13527
>Those are short separate blocks edited together for the sake of the video or that 9 min went down as a whole on TV?

It was made as one big video (same style etc), but then splitted to chunks for TV. I can't remember properly though.

Here is full version (at least description says so): https://youtube.com/watch?v=aPehx1i-df8 [Embed]
It is interesting that such politician (Yavlinsky, modern western-style democrat) used folk song and "common people" imagery, uncommon for this political position, especially in 90s.


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The official campaign period has just started on the weekend for the legislative elections (coming up in April) so the "stop Soros and his plan" advertisements ceased to be government funded public service announcements and finally they can be acknowledged as part of the Fidesz' campaign.

Polls show fairly the same results in the rankings of the parties however the percentages of the people's support varies a lot.
Already wrote a who is who previously but here's a quick rundown with the numbers of the estimated support among the whole adult population:
Fidesz-KDNP governing parties, conservative populist, Victator Orbán and Co. - 26-46%
Jobbik - softening right radical - 7-17%
MSZP - pseudo-socialists #1 - 5-11%
DK - pseudo-socialists #2 - 3-8%
Együtt - pseudo-socialists #3, - 1-2%
Párbeszéd - green, liberal, "socialist" - 0-2%
Liberálisok - liberals - 0-1%
LMP - least insufferable liberals - 3-7%
MKKP - joke party - 0-1%
Momentum - also least insufferable liberals - 1-3%
I dunno what influence the sometimes huge differences.

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Bernd 02/19/2018 (Mon) 23:10:52 [Preview] No.13749 del
>>13746
>- a candidate can contend only if at least 1000 voters vouch for him with their "knocking slips"
>- on these slips the voters have to write their name, address and ID number along with their party preference and their favored candidate here I have a question, as you see this is basically an open vote which goes against the principle of the secret vote, is this practice common elsewhere, or just we are the lucky ones who have it?

Maybe I got this wrong, but here we also have a required amount of signatures that are needed to allow someone to participate in elections. For example, president needs to get 300k, or 100k if he going with party support if party have no seats in parliament (parties from parliament have free candidates). Parties also require some amount of people to get officially registered. In local elections amount of signatures is much less, even to 25 people on very local tier.

All signatures of course aren't anonymous, passport and other data is required. Central election committee must check most of them (at least in theory, but really they do partial check).

Although it doesn't really matter in modern Russia because of reasons that everyone know.


Bernd 02/20/2018 (Tue) 20:14:03 [Preview] No.13762 del
>>13749
Now I'm really curious how western democracies do this thing. Some regulations on the elections usually are in the Constitution others have their own electoral law. Obviously countries with English official language would be the first targets for me to check however I would more interested in non-Anglo countries I'm not sure they have their laws available in English.
Of course I checked our own law and I found that a law from 2011. (about the elections of the members of the National Assembly) states the candidates need 500 voters who nominate them, the more recent (2013) Electoral Law which regulates the whole process and has a separate section for the same topic states nothing or I'm blind, it just says the election committees has to check if their number is enough. So I dunno why would they need 1000 voters (I got that from I dunno where now, it wasn't the Wikipedia).
The Electoral Law says however that one voter can nominate several candidates. So this somewhat muddles the open vote nature of this "knocking slip" thingy. Btw this nickname reflects the modus operandi of their collection: the party soldiers knock on your door and you give them the slip.