12/12/2017 (Tue) 18:22:35
>>14239>taking a stance on a question that we don't have the answers to
That's what every school of thought does, because it's more important to start thinking than wait for a 100% accurate starting point, even risking that your whole house of cards falls down once its premise is disproven. That's what objectivity is
, though you show clear signs of misunderstanding this. It just means not being hypocritical of your own premises, not the absolute faith that your premise is true. Scientists understand that facts being objective just means that they're the most reliable assumptions but nothing more
. You have to learn that facts are not categorically true. The key difference is that, let's say scientists observe the sun revolves around earth: this a fact in history. It's a revision of history to say that "it was never fact that sun revolves the earth". The reality is that it was
fact, stopped being
fact, and was replaced by the fact
that earth revolves around the sun once we invented more accurately objective metrics
. This is not an oxymoron, it's the fundamental principle of objectivity so that you won't start treating "facts" as just another divine idol.
But the secular stance is to study all the idiots saying "there's no such thing as objective fact", redefine objectivity by this new majority understanding of the word, and let the population reintroduce magical thinking based on the idolatry of facts regardless of what junk science study was able to gatekeep on any given "fact". Don't tell me this isn't happening, by the way. Even if you can keep up some good science fact-checking the claims, it's a foregone loop of diminishing returns that can ultimately only be regulated by elevating a priesthood of "real science".
And the better solution is to educate people so they understand to compartmentalize faith and knowledge by being honest about their own arguments of faith. This is something nominational "skeptics" are particularly shit at, because they shame people for even attempting it. They're just too embarrassed to even start actually thinking because they fear they might fail.