Luna, ruler of the night, I finally present you a thread worthy of your stature. Now you are equal with your sister here.

What is the night? A beatiful and yet lonely place. Haunting, untouched by the daytime activies of everypony going about there day. A time to reflect and be with one's self.

>>4928
Yet it can have its dangers...

>>4930
one can get lost within it...

>>4931
yet one can size it.

>>4932
or just have fun on nightmare night!

What is this thread for? Well I really had a feel in mind over a theme defined . Best way to show what I mean would be an old obscure fandom song I haven't listened too in years. I believe it was called something like: Cosmic, Twilight Sparkle's theme. Can't find it on YT and it only had a few thousand views so it probably is gone. I had ran to it accidentally when looking for another Twilight related theme that had been obscured by the battle theme that was made for her in Fighting is Magic. The way I'd describe the song's feel was haunting, majestic and makes one feel of the words I have spoken here. Relatively simple piano with something else (forgive me, tired) It was a hidden gem amidst many themes more popular and the artist who made works that were a bit plane (at least from what I can recall from checking out his other stuff.) Still, it still rings in my head...

This is what I meant when I said Luna was dissatisfied. I've been planing this thread for awhile and the fic that I had completed before the final was for this thread along with a couple of other things though I still would like to post my reviews first. Still, I wanted to do something for Nightmare Night and what better way then to start this thread?

So Bridgefag has decided to open a thread about the other royal sister...in Nightmare Night nonetheless. Well, the other choice could have been in the Winter Solstice so Luna doesn´t simply stop for bringing the scary party to the younger generations.

>>4937
>I wanted to do something for Nightmare Night and what better way then to start this thread?
Either way, the date picked for opening couldn´t be more fitting and you sure made a really great gesture by leaving the room open for her. It has yet to be defined but it would leave a bitter taste if Celestia only showed up on /endpone/.

The dark period began yesterday so it means that the insightful comments (but also some fun(ny) posts) can come up along the way. Like you say,it´s maybe hard to define but the adventure chooses its own path.

I see that you have taken some notes from Celestia´s thread and you took an inspiration from a particular song...

and it makes sense as well that Luna gets her thread because the Canterlot Daily banner shows her with the bat wings and fangs, proper of a Bat Pony princess (despite not unfolding the usual bat wings to consider her as a bat pony, her pointed wings give her true nature away) . So yeah,the execution of said homage is properly correlated.

>>4925
>Now you are equal with your sister here.
we have been posting her more these last months than Celestia so it looks like a well deserved thread for special attention. Besides, both have gone through the same ending and the same fate together, one doesn´t go without the other. Two sides of the same coin.

>>4928
>What is the night? A beautiful and yet lonely place. Haunting, untouched by the daytime activities of everypony going about there day. A time to reflect and be with one's self.
don´t think that many people bother with its core concept. Some use it as a method of escape of reality, by going to parties and well, have mindless fun.
However, the sun won´t always shine for the entire day and the night marks the point of a passive mindset for daily activities and focuses more on varied stuff that we do while we are waiting for the next sunrise to come and begin all over again.

The night leaves you naked because the visual references are gone and the sense of defenselessness arises in your whole body. However, as soon as homes/refuges were created, one fears of one self because the night leaves you a chance to think about yourself. While one stays at certain safe places, the psychological freedom scares the hell out of us.

>>4930
>>4931
>>4932
>>4933
I believe that this streak of posts is one of your best so far, mostly because the thoughts reflected are actually shown in the pictures for exposing such emotions/situations. Sure it can be seen as a spontaneous take on its concept, but only an introvert could ask those kinds of questions behind these simple actions.

>>4937
>Well I really had a feel in mind over a theme defined.
and it shows but it seems more like you have proved to give a bit of love,as if /endpone/ owed something to her.

>I believe it was called something like: Cosmic, Twilight Sparkle's theme. Can't find it on YT and it only had a few thousand views so it probably is gone. I had ran to it accidentally when looking for another Twilight related theme that had been obscured by the battle theme that was made for her in Fighting is Magic.
yeah, that song that you linked on the other thread. Most likely one of the few musical pieces that I have listened to that was created by this fanbase. Despite not having any attachment to MLP´s fan music, I can say that...

>I'd describe the song's feel was haunting, majestic and makes one feel of the words I have spoken here. Relatively simple piano with something else >It was a hidden gem amidst many themes more popular
>it still rings in my head...
the piano is a beautiful instrument although it´s more limited than the guitar and a really fitting choice for intimate situations that happen during the night. I can imagine with those adjectives where that song went and could transmit to you, not to mention that the recurring theme that you are trying to transmit makes it easier to figure it out.

>This is what I meant when I said Luna was dissatisfied.
do you mean this one >>4857? She had reasons to do so but that didn´t mean her appearance would get less frequent. In fact, I believe a lot of edits were focused on her.

>I've been planing this thread for awhile and the fic that I had completed before the final was for this thread along with a couple of other things
I had been wondering a few times, seeing the banner of this board, why Luna didn´t have a thread here. That banner implies that she matters in some way yet /endpone/ doesn´t know where to go with her.

It seems that this thread was opened because of your motivations and I won´t deny that the effort of bringing images of this style proves that you want to show us a message that the daylight cannot offer yet the night leaves you room to do so without feeling unnatural.

After all, Luna has received her place and despite facing lots of problems that one can get lost within its dark roots, the spring will come someday, all the flowers will bloom and will remind you that all the odds and the shortcomings that happened to you, become irrelevant over time...because only death is what has no solution, the rest will come and go.

For now, it´s the period when we can stare at the majestic moon from our houses.

>though I still would like to post my reviews first
if you want to go with that route, I will follow it.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=P3Rzkoag36I [Embed]

and one last thing that I should post before I leave this place tonight. /endpone/ has brought up several times the concept of emo=edgy, as if both are correlated, leaving the concept of darkness spoiled down to a really simplistic way to classify its existence.

It might not be the song that lead you to create this thread with a majestic piano but...

there is one detail that I have liked about Luna:she´s not an emo but a less energetic pony than Celestia (at least, while travelling through all of Equestria). She is a passive pony, not one that wants to go over the edge and show pride of it, she´s simply monitoring the night but it also implies a calm mindset towards these extraordinary conditions.

Edgy stuff might no longer be trendy on the internet and it will simply get mocked by almost any means. That should happen to emo as well...

and the song here is delivered by one of the most memed (and beloved) albums of /mu/.

We have already ended the summer (considered originally by the Celts) so people would rather spend time in a comfy place, exposing their internal emotions in a private safe place.

If this is the concept that one should mock and laugh at all the day, I guess that this song might change that misunderstood vision...


but that´s life, so emotional...


Goodnight /endpone/.

>>4942
>So Bridgefag has decided to open a thread about the other royal sister...in Nightmare Night nonetheless. Well, the other choice could have been in the Winter Solstice so Luna doesn´t simply stop for bringing the scary party to the younger generations.
You have a point and though I could see horror having a place in this thread the feelings that drove me to making it were more of a simple wondrous feel.

>I see that you have taken some notes from Celestia´s thread and you took an inspiration from a particular song...
Yep.

>>4943
>and it makes sense as well that Luna gets her thread because the Canterlot Daily banner shows her with the bat wings and fangs, proper of a Bat Pony princess (despite not unfolding the usual bat wings to consider her as a bat pony, her pointed wings give her true nature away) .
BO, you said you were no artist, but you seemed to have a bit more skill then you ever let on. The text to the banners matched perfectly with the images and that Plan 9 pony you drew perfectly matched the style. If you are still out there we very much appreciate what you did and how long you stayed around note to lurkers/semi-posters, I am BO but only after the coolest one left

>we have been posting her more these last months than Celestia so it looks like a well deserved thread for special attention.
Indeed.

>The night leaves you naked because the visual references are gone and the sense of defenselessness arises in your whole body. However, as soon as homes/refuges were created, one fears of one self because the night leaves you a chance to think about yourself. While one stays at certain safe places, the psychological freedom scares the hell out of us.
The night is when I best think. Not sure if it's because of my body's natural clock or simply because it is the time I usually have most to myself.Though tbh, my most existential thoughts came at a room during sunset/dusk when I was first getting into pony, but that is a story for another day.

>I believe that this streak of posts is one of your best so far, mostly because the thoughts reflected are actually shown in the pictures for exposing such emotions/situations. Sure it can be seen as a spontaneous take on its concept, but only an introvert could ask those kinds of questions behind these simple actions.
It was spontaneous and I was actually thinking of some of the low level posts with pictures and a few words you made in the past.

>>4944
>and it shows but it seems more like you have proved to give a bit of love,as if /endpone/ owed something to her.
Truth be told, in the grand scheme it was a small somethinng, but yes I felt her turn to finally have a thread too. I had originally had little interest in Luna OC only because, while not hating her, did consider her over represented in fan works. Now though? I'd say with the end of FiM and the fact that the end has always flirted with a dark theme of how we stylized ourselves it's time ta give her a thread too. Even if it's a bit experimental and not 100% just about her.

>the piano is a beautiful instrument although it´s more limited than the guitar
Everyone that I admittedly limited experience talking to related to music has told me the opposite.

> and a really fitting choice for intimate situations that happen during the night. I can imagine with those adjectives where that song went and could transmit to you
You know? Now that I think about it I think the piano may have been a bit more secondary part as I recall it in my head. Too bad I can't find it to check. Regardless, despite the relative simplicity it had it was very haunting to me.

>do you mean this one >>4857? She had reasons to do so but that didn´t mean her appearance would get less frequent. In fact, I believe a lot of edits were focused on her.
Truth be told, I just said that to just drop a hint of future plans. She did do well in edits.

>After all, Luna has received her place and despite facing lots of problems that one can get lost within its dark roots, the spring will come someday, all the flowers will bloom and will remind you that all the odds and the shortcomings that happened to you, become irrelevant over time
WATER IS SCARY

>if you want to go with that route, I will follow it.
It is the fairest route to go.

>>4945
>and one last thing that I should post before I leave this place tonight. /endpone/ has brought up several times the concept of emo=edgy, as if both are correlated, leaving the concept of darkness spoiled down to a really simplistic way to classify its existence.
Darkness is more complex than that. Though I'd say that it can become muddled. Have vampires been ruined by Twilight? Can their be a darkness that is untainted by devniart and cupcakes tier trolling. Yes, but I can understand aversion from those works.

>but that´s life, so emotional...
Though I cannot blame one's aversion to such clashes of the personal on a chan ponychan and to a lesser extent some aspects of earlier mlpg certainly show that path yet the vail has been lowered here. Whoever posts here, you can still have anon to you name but The personal has played a part and what fed our OC and stories and some of our discussions. It is impossible not too with so few, and it seems our old BO was a bit more familiar with that model working out than I thought with /flutter/.

>and the song here is delivered by one of the most memed (and beloved) albums of /mu/.
Not fully my taste but man that is relaxing and does go a bit with the feel of the thread.

>there is one detail that I have liked about Luna:she´s not an emo but a less energetic pony than Celestia (at least, while traveling through all of Equestria).
That's what I'd say with Pinkie Pie. She isn't zany and her happiness is an aspect of it, she is childishly happy and her zaniness is an aspect of it. Though I'd say that both have flirted especially pinkie with the more negative meme version both have been treated with far better nuance than what an average show would have'em do.

>Goodnight /endpone/.
Good morning /endpone/.

>>4946
>the feelings that drove me to making it were more of a simple wondrous feel.
that is yet to be exposed with OC material that might express much more than the events themselves. When one decides to do something, there are always motivations behind, especially there is absolute freedom to do anything.

>The text to the banners matched perfectly with the images and that Plan 9 pony you drew perfectly matched the style. If you are still out there we very much appreciate what you did and how long you stayed around
same words to him. Despite using the photo application for the edit thread, I wouldn´t have executed that banner in the same way. He underrated himself way too much for his own good.

>The night is when I best think.
funnily enough, my guitar teacher said to me that his source of inspiration for the recordings were during the nights. I recall writing a lot of fics in the nightly hours as well so this statement might be more applicable to a lot of people than one might think.

>Not sure if it's because of my body's natural clock or simply because it is the time I usually have most to myself
those are pretty valid reasons to justify that. I mean, all the activities stop right there, so there is a greater feeling of solitude and the ambient is way calmer than in the rushed hours.

>my most existential thoughts came at a room during sunset/dusk when I was first getting into pony, but that is a story for another day.
eeeyup, that story haunts on a different level so we´d better leave it there for another moment.

>It was spontaneous and I was actually thinking of some of the low level posts with pictures and a few words you made in the past.
I do notice that it shows a spontaneous execution but considering that there are personal motivations and aspirations to the concept,it looks like you are onto something else that is hidden beneath those words.
Also, it proves that I should take care of myself and my words said over here because like you, any lurker can take notes and take me as a reference. It backs up my mindset that I cannot be overly stupid of my own actions here because who knows might happen after the posts written here in the past.

>>4947
>I had originally had little interest in Luna OC only because, while not hating her, did consider her over represented in fan works
she´s always been a fan favorite and lots of OCs might have correlated her for dark stories considering her past of being an alicorn villain (until Daybreaker happened in season 7), her reserved behavior most of the time and well, her design really appeals to the eye even for those who don´t know anything about her character. We could enter with fanon correlations like the gamer material or the concept of the Lunar Republic but those are muddy waters that I won´t understand (I wasn´t there at the time) that much nor I have interest in going too deeply with them.

>I'd say with the end of FiM and the fact that the end has always flirted with a dark theme of how we stylized ourselves it's time ta give her a thread too. Even if it's a bit experimental and not 100% just about her.
makes sense. In fact, typing these words in these latest posts have sort of reminded me of the early 2018 months, back when /endpone/ was much less defined than today. Those discussions about edginess, darkness, etc... have stayed latent over time in this board.

As you say, Luna might be the clearest example to expose but that doesn´t imply that this theme is exclusive to her exposure in this thread.

>Everyone that I admittedly limited experience talking to related to music has told me the opposite.
I appreciate that humble mentality but I want to ask this: why?

>the piano may have been a bit more secondary part as I recall it in my head. Too bad I can't find it to check. Regardless, despite the relative simplicity it had it was very haunting to me.
then I cannot have any idea of how present it was but if it complemented that haunting feeling to you, that´s more than enough.

>I just said that to just drop a hint of future plans.
well,let´s see how it goes

>She did do well in edits.
I won´t deny that

>WATER IS SCARY
considering the recent events that happened over there, I can see where you are coming from just to conclude that even though I have more genuine fears towards other things despite acknowledging its wild nature

That picture wasn´t posted accidentally by the way.

>>4948
>Darkness is more complex than that.
indeed just that there is a problem commonly attributed to it and it´s...

>Though I'd say that it can become muddled.
this right here. As soon as the consumer of that dark tone piece relies on certain elements, the interpretations from them can rip that concept away completely.

>Have vampires been ruined by Twilight?
nope but anything that is touched by that franchise always get applied to that infamous concept, well deservedly so.

>Can their be a darkness that is untainted by devniart and cupcakes tier trolling. Yes, but I can understand aversion from those works.
fair enough. The problem mostly relies that the most famous material known on the internet is written of fanfics from teenagers and a medium to expose their frustrations or that sense of feeling superior and cool from the rest. Nowadays, social media exists for expressing those emotions but I don´t want to enter into the consequences that this practice can imply to the real world. I don´t need to go further than this

Although edginess can be executed amazingly well and boy, I sure enjoy that material to this day quite a lot.

>I cannot blame one's aversion to such clashes of the personal on a chan ponychan and to a lesser extent some aspects of earlier mlpg certainly show that path
>yet the vail has been lowered here.
there is one big problem at pushing those limits and it´s the fact about going into an antisocial media route along with an anti chan behavior yet ponies and the memes/shitposts that come from there are still present. That possible aversion (that stands as the golden standard for any chan) might explain the fearful ambient from the early 2018. Who has told /endpone/ to do something like this? I mean, it´s far from the first one and even /flutter/ has done that before this board. So despite the general knowledge and spirit of the imageboards, how likely is that one group of people stays in this format, inside a very little board, talking to themselves in a inner private circle? One can lurk a lot but even in the anonymity,the social spirit arises to some extent in between the shitposts.


>Whoever posts here, you can still have anon to you name but The personal has played a part and what fed our OC and stories and some of our discussions. It is impossible not too with so few, and it seems our old BO was a bit more familiar with that model working out than I thought with /flutter/.
how can one avoid that considering the low amount of people posting over here? As soon as one admits the given circumstances, the atypical situation of random people discussing for themselves, how much time does it require to reach that personal part onto the table?
As you say, the content exposed and the discussions made for all these months have had driving forces and that personal side plays a huge part very often. One doesn´t consider himself a creator but the momentum behind that material is what makes this real.

The BO simply was passed along with this personal spirit and his last post reflects the results of lurking this board for a while. If you check the posts written in late December 2017, he admitted that those personal feelings shouldn´t have sprung up on a chan. >>317 >>334, >>335 and >>385. Reading these posts from him really shows how messed up this concept can be and why we had a lot of fear back in the day.


and so, another weekend ends...

>>4948
>Not fully my taste but man that is relaxing and does go a bit with the feel of the thread.
to me, that´s enough in my eyes. That song wasn´t linked accidentally and it went with the sense of:"Hum, emo, right? You know, I am expecting some cringy lyrics and sad boys shouting at the microphone with loud guitar".

It does go with the feel of this thread because that album is linked to the end of the summer as well and funnily enough, has become the golden standard of emo (in the underground scene) over the years. You mentioned not long ago emo music again so I wanted to go through the cliches of its stigma and show something a little bit unheard out of it that people usually forgot. It basically shows a different perspective that you might expect at first like MLP with the implied girly spirit in this decade

>That's what I'd say with Pinkie Pie. She isn't zany and her happiness is an aspect of it, she is childishly happy and her zaniness is an aspect of it.
for some reason, this sounds really confusing but at the same time, it proves how polarizing she can get sometimes with her attitude. I hold Pinkamena as the edgiest one out of the main characters, mostly because Luna has years of experience and her mentor role,for Twilight and especially the CMC, tears that edgy spirit apart in the end, not to mention that she is way more consistent at changing her mood. Pinkie from one moment to another can become really extreme.

>both have flirted especially pinkie with the more negative meme version both have been treated with far better nuance than what an average show would have'em do.
Luna only had an episode exposing her guilt to the mane 6 in season 5 while Pinkie Pie has had more periods of her straight mane over the seasons. That improved nuance might come because the slice of life format offers a more laid back mentality for facing the personal troubles/motivations for any character, not to mention that almost all the episodes have to face a conflict or problematic plot device.

>>4948
>>4952
>Good morning /endpone/
and so, another weekend ends...

This thread feels comfy.

>>4979
Glad it does. Hopefully they'll be OC to add to the feel soon.

>>4996
Flying freely in the night.

>>4997
Luna...

>>4998
What can we say about her?

Mistress of the night divine.

Ruler of the Stars.

>>4997
>>4999
>What can we say about her? Mistress of the night divine.
Always so serene (and cute if you pick her Woona pictures), you cannot go wrong with her. It feels almost like you could rely on her for the night...

however....

...this is the /end/...

>>4999
>What can we say about her?
>>4998
I'd say in that pic I wish I was the one giving her happy scritches with my hands, and while also preforming the happiest services with my mouth and tongue.

>>5007
/mlp/ intensifies...


Anyway, 5000 posts in this board. I don´t think that I should praise my amazement towards this project because repeating it over and over has become its own standard.

/endpone/ has achieved the ending of the 4th gen ride alive and still kicking (even if it´s by Proof of Life Shitposts at times).

Should we continue to let the chaos flow into ourselves or is it possible to leave? I don´t have a clear answer even for myself, nobody has told us to stay here from the very beginning.

So yeah, >>5000 the Mare in the Mountain was prepared to take over the digits and the night itself. Out of all places, this might be the only one that takes a concept such as Cadence having a second life as a bat and she´s become a subtle mascot to keep an eye (even if she doesn´t have a banner like Dolores). I simply wish there were more images of her like these so the concept could go on... but that´s how life works sometimes.

5000 posts. Congratulations folks for giving MLP a spot at the end of the universe.

There is one more review left to discuss and end the ride for ourselves but...


...let the former Princess of Love celebrate her triumph tonight....

I am a very old being.
I am very old indeed.
Yet I am not frail, just weakened.
Is that an oxymoron?
No bother.
I have been left in a fairly questionable state.
Left in the lessor havens among the stars.
Though I will return to my lover.
He is my lessor half after all.
I can feel it near. He is alive on the earth below.
My curiosity has however been peaked by my forlorn neighbors
Being a constellation in the sky is rather... boring to say the least
I've been here for what? A thousand plus rotation cycles?
It's been a long time.
And I have some rather boring neighbors to boot
Stars. Little points of light in the night's sky.
They've been with me since I got stuck up here.
Always speaking in their riddles and trying to sound like wise sages.
I grew tired of trying to talk to them. They never would listen to me.
My adventures. My exploits. My travels across the... Cosmos
They always would pout and be mad. Trying to hold me by a mortal based morality.
I never quite understood why this was but this annoyed me to the point of giving them the silent treatment for the past eight hundread years or so.
It's grown easier too. As I have slowly made my way back down to the plant's surface. Slowly further away from their fixed orbits.

>>5108
The stars will aid in her escape
Yet after all this time they finally did something that surprised me.
I saw them break from their orbits and move.
Responding to a powerful for call of anger and sadness
Their old master.
Never really got to know her well.
She was in part one of the reasons why I was stuck here.
I had seen her been sent up from some type of powerful magic.
I can still remember it. Clean as day. Such anger, such fear, such pain.
And for as much as I hated her. I actually developed a sort of a pity for her s well.
From what I could tell of her emotions. It seemed she had suffered a similar fate to myself.
Betrayal.
I tried reaching out to her several times but the bounds that kept her imprisoned were so great that even I in my weakened scattered state couldn't break through.
But finally she did and I was left with questions.
I had never really pondered their nature until now
I had never brought it up with them. Never asked any questions.
Never felt the near really.
If I am being honest though I do talk on and on.
I am a horrible listener.
I would say it's a personal flaw but that is a rather mortal thing to say isn't it?
A being like me can't have flaws.
I finally was on ready to speak after all these years.
Could I even still? It's been so long since I reached out to them.
And we have only grown further apart.
Let me try...

Okay... not sure if it's me being idiotic but some of the formating isn't working. I edited the post several times and it wouldn't work so I deleted it. Yet other sentences of that same color worked. Couldn't figure out why and I'm runing out of time to post so let this be a sneak peak.
No space
Single space behind
Space in front
Space both behind and in front
Do periods cause it to break.

>>5111
>All of them work
Now I'm really confused as to what broke the formating there. Ug. Well, I have a fic and a couple of smaller things to post but that will come in a bit. Hopefully I can get this figured out. I will fly for now!

Also. We have a new cosmos themed banner!

>>5108
>>5109
Hope you get those issues sorted out because I am very intrigued by what you have written here.

>>5113
Nice banner.

>>5114
>Hope you get those issues sorted out because I am very intrigued by what you have written here.
Going into any more would possibly spoil it other than I am exploring an obscure cannon implication. It's such a tiny thing as to not hype about but I hope what it brings up is interesting.

>>5114
>Nice banner.
Thanks. Though I wouldn't call it flawless; a couple of those planets look a little rough and I certainly lack the font skills of our old enteral BO I will say it turned out much better than I expected it to.

>>5108
despite digging in its own vagueness in the era that we are living in and so does this board, I kind of could establish a small speculation behind the context of these words. However, I am going to quote some of them despite its narrative, so they stand out a little bit in comparison to the rest:

>I am a very old being.I am very old indeed.
this right here exposes way more than the author might believe.

>Yet I am not frail, just weakened. Is that an oxymoron?
nope, even though a frail being is more sensible and has more chances to feel weak.

>Though I will return to my lover.He is my lessor half after all.
uh oh, there it goes the speculation that this isn´t about Celestia and Nightmare Moon,even though...

>I had seen her been sent up from some type of powerful magic.
one could imply that story if it wasn´t because of previous subtle details

>I am a horrible listener.
same, I can relate to that sadly. I sometimes focus too much on myself rather than listening to the rest.I can emphasize with you on this one,Discord.

>I would say it's a personal flaw but that is a rather mortal thing to say isn't it?
it seems that the harmony made you more mortal than you were in the past

>And we have only grown further apart. Let me try...
are you sure about bringing her back? Not because you see the orbits move means that the nostalgic feeling could get translated in the same way that you are feeling... careful with what you wish for but...[/spoiler] the last event that happened in the series almost lead Equestria to a disaster[/spoiler]

>>5108
>>5109
so as far as I can imply here, I won´t go too far because it feels like a wishful thinking, Bridgefag has shown several times an unexploited love for verses and while this isn´t the first time he takes it seriously, I would say that this is far from spontaneous. Despite using the uncertain emotions that he has shared on /endpone/ over time, there is a peculiar characteristic here:

These verses complement each other because they express two wildly different perspectives:

One rejects harmony, expressing feelings of powerlessness, boredom and defiance towards the path of having a moral code). The 2nd post shows a more nostalgic perspective towards a past that the narrator had in those times shared with that being, acknowledging that despite the period that event that lead her to get there, the narrator realizes about developing some moral over time that has lead to such reflections and thinking about her, showing signs of empathy and wondering how she is doing these days.

I could go further with this but considering that this is so far an introduction, I can appreciate the fact that this is written with two opposite voices that could clash at some point if they met again, with a 1st person narrative.


>>5112
>I have a fic and a couple of smaller things to post but that will come in a bit. Hopefully I can get this figured out.
well but at least...

>>5113
>>5129
>a couple of those planets look a little rough and I certainly lack the font skills of our old enteral BO I will say it turned out much better than I expected it to.
that´s a sick banner all in all. I could explain why she makes sense on this board but I didn´t believe that she would get it so soon.

>>5129
>I am exploring an obscure cannon implication. It's such a tiny thing as to not hype about but I hope what it brings up is interesting.
more than hype, the interactions between them are going to gain a lot of value for this story, especially when their mental voices put on the table insightful thoughts that define a lot their intentions.

>>5131
>>5132
you are right on a somewhat split and conflicted voice, though it is still a mostly unified being.

>the interactions between them are going to gain a lot of value for this story, especially when their mental voices put on the table insightful thoughts that define a lot their intentions.
I'm not sure how much is there to hype. This fic does feel a bit deeper than others I've done and I feel I have a good grasp on the character or at least a way to interpret said character

>that´s a sick banner all in all.
Glad you like it. I still think there is a couple of corrections that I should do like trying text besides generic mspaint style solid colors

>but I didn´t believe that she would get it so soon.
It's part of what I'm trying to do. Board wide event thing. So a banner adds to that atmosphere, not to mention that Cosmos both symbolizes the era were in a chaotic way (Pony Life) and the fact that a lot of our focus will be on the comics now. What better way to kick it off by having a little Cosmos related party? Though there is another who is in need of one...

Here is something that shocked me to find. The song... Yes, that song. The song mentioned in >>4937. younger me had archived it on a usb stick with a bunch of oldish stuff. It is utterly freaky to hear again. A channel matching the name does exist and it indeed appears to have been deleted, as there is no videos uploaded to it any more and he has changed the name (though he cannot change the ULR).
https://www.youtube.com/user/Somberguy20/

The song fits the style I described. Perhaps it's a bit basic but I hope you (and y'all other lurkers and sometimes posters) can see why I find it so haunting and why it helped inspire this thread.

As my schedule is vastly uncertain this week, I at least leave this little treasure of an unexpected rediscovery.

>>5138
>though it is still a mostly unified being.
my brain has exploded after reading this.

>I'm not sure how much is there to hype.
well, the hype is created by the uncertainty. The bad news is that there is a lot to define. The good news is that there is a lot of potential undefined. The hype comes and goes depending on what direction you want to lead us.

>This fic does feel a bit deeper than others I've done and I feel I have a good grasp on the character or at least a way to interpret said character
yeah, the grasp that you interpret from it is the definitive one that others cannot decide for you. If we take the recent events into account, I can sense why that sense of additional depth is exposed in those lines. However, considering The Mare in the Mountain and The Revolution fic, one cannot find any strange feeling of depth. If we take this independently, it´s surely more introspective because of that 1st person narrative.

>like trying text besides generic mspaint style solid colors
we are living in 2019 and MsPaint is still used, people still browse on GameFAQs, Winrar has kept its popularity over the years with that notification of the 40 days license expired popping up each time you open it and we are using a site with the Futaba format from 19 years ago.

I mean, technology may have received a lot of updates and changes but editing a banner with that program in a place like this....honestly what else can one ask for?

>It's part of what I'm trying to do. Board wide event thing.
board wide or...[/spoiler] world wide?[/spoiler]

>a banner adds to that atmosphere, not to mention that Cosmos both symbolizes the era were in a chaotic way (Pony Life) and the fact that a lot of our focus will be on the comics now. What better way to kick it off by having a little Cosmos related party?
oh yeah, that sounds really fun....in the wrong sense. The popular phrase of /mlp/ that says: "We are crashing this train with no survivors" was repeated for a reason. We´d better embrace the bumpy future (even though Cosmos arc was released before season 9 ended. Meh, I suppose that she can count as post gen 4 material for this board either way, so it doesn´t matter all that much really).

>Though there is another who is in need of one...
we´ve got Luna, Celestia, Discord with Fluttershy, Dolores in the form of a bridge, Cosmos....who are you talking about then? Top secret question that shouldn´t be made now...

>>5139
>Here is something that shocked me to find. The song... Yes, that song. The song mentioned in >>4937.
oh wow. You have managed to find it. Considering that in these recent years, lots of material has been deleted in Youtube, one could wonder if anything is still out there. Fortunately, it was there to show it here and prove where you got that inspiration.

>younger me had archived it on a usb stick with a bunch of oldish stuff.
well, that´s a good way to keep it alive, considering that a lot of things can get wiped out of existence instantly in the cloud...but the internet, for better or worse, is an hydra.

>It is utterly freaky to hear again. A channel matching the name does exist and it indeed appears to have been deleted, as there is no videos uploaded to it any more and he has changed the name (though he cannot change the ULR).https://www.youtube.com/user/Somberguy20/
well, there we have it. The inspiration for such words and that sounds far from a party song. A little bit cheesy because of the sunth but....

>The song fits the style I described. Perhaps it's a bit basic but I hope you (and y'all other lurkers and sometimes posters) can see why I find it so haunting and why it helped inspire this thread.
it´s a bit basic indeed. However, considering how bare it is (especially in the last third), that lack of instruments and the use of two/three special effects that induce the feeling of seeing the night sky, helps you to imply that you are actually seeing them because of those sounds.

After reading the old posts and listening to this like 6 or 7 times, I must say that the piano plays an important part to carry that feeling. It´s not in the spotlight (in terms of volume) but its subtlety carries the melody in order to make sense and back up the rest. The piano tends to evoke that serene feeling and personally, the song gains power with it in the middle section.

There are two songs that I could link here for backing up this: one from Legends of Equestria (the game) and one from The Cure (which funnily enough, I immediately had a feeling that the Cosmic song reminded me of using the piano to back up the main instrument). I am not linking them for now unless you are prepared, but they are far from happy and who knows what devastating feelings can bring to you at this moment. Besides, I believe that I have shown quite a few songs here, so I am giving more time and room to breathe so one doesn´t feel so sick.

>As my schedule is vastly uncertain this week, I at least leave this little treasure of an unexpected rediscovery.
not to mention that it has happened what is sadly occurring out there. So I have a couple of reasons to give you a break.

and well, I am leaving the stars located at the end of the universe tonight.

So this means that my activity is a PoLS just to reply the song that you had kept in private, only rediscovering it by surprise after all this time.

Have a good night /endpone/

>>5109
Hello. This is Cosmos. The true Lord of Chaos requesting correspondence with any star that is willing to talk.
???
I feel a presence reach out to me. Several lightly touch. I could here bits of their thoughts but nothing was clear.
What brings you to finally speak?
I think you owe me an explanation on what you just did there with the moon.
Has your old master finally broken free from her bounds?
It hear them talking among themselves. Almost sounded like bickering. Ha! I bet they do not know what to think right now with me finally speaking up.
Not yet, but the hour is soon when our mistress will finally be free of the pain that has consumed her heart.
So my sight hasn't been deceived and she has broken from the moon?
Yes.
Is she going to finally get back at her sister?
Times haven't changed have they Cosmos? No, she will be free of the curse upon her heart and hopefully the two can reconcile.
???
What? How did you get that impression from that scream of pain and hatred? I wouldn't be surprised if Celestia was outright killed by her.
How are you so simple that you do not feel things being set in motion?Have can you claim to be above us if you cannot feel what will is at force here?
I remembered why I got so tired of talking with them. They see themselves as such high and noble beings yet can hardly muster to do anything other than speak and riddles and rhymes and try to pass onto mortals warnings of the future in the most indirect and convoluted ways imaginable.
I briefly turned my attention to the planet below. Reaching out silently I could only feel the light presence of my beloved as he too slowly broke free from his prison.
Then I could feel a torrent of anger and rage of a certain formerly exiled princess.
There was something small...
What other power is at work? What has been set in motion that is so great yet I only feel the loosest rumblings of space noise?

>>5176
Maybe it's your scattered soul but you should be able to feel the forces at work. It is the most powerful force in the universe.
I hate to admit it but he (she? Whomever the star and or stars I'm talking to) may have a point on my scattered soul. I have been a little scatter brained since getting up here and a great deal of my focus has been just spent passing time in boredom trying keep my mind from splitting into five distinct consciousnesses. Naturally I'm a little rusty at everything else.
I don't know what this most powerful force in the universe is though.
What powerful force? Chaos? I tell you I cannot think of anything powerful that will result in peace.
Kinship, Love, Friendship it goes by many names. The basic building blocks of Harmony.
Oh yeah I remember you all arguing about that years ago. In any case, stupid childhood morality and magic bling jewelry are not what I'd call most powerful force in the universe. I guess if Luna is stupid enough it'll work though.
It amazes me to see you in your state being so dismissive of it's power.
I'm not one hundred percent dismissive of it. Just what you have to say on it. You never could fully agree on anything and one of the few things I vividly remember from your boring bickering was deciding whether harmony was friendship or friendship was harmony.
How can I take anything from you seriously when all you do is obsess over mortals and fight over a pitiful attempt to rationalize raw emotion magics as a force of what you narrowly define as good?
Foolish. You never pay attention to what's in front of your eyes. You would see that that this force is self evident in anything that has ever been accomplished. Even evil.
I've been to far many more places then you and seen many things. Evil and good are merely labels given by mortals to artificially categorize outcomes. You will never see through that and I hate intellectual speak and trying to engage you in these stupid philosophical debates
I have other more pressing questions for you anyway.
You sound just like a foal. But I am curious on these other questions that you claim to have.

>>5179
Tell me. What? Where? Why? Who?
Tell me your nature. Tell me why are you up here? Do you even know?
Tell me what is your purpose?
And why are you subservient to a pony?
Before you ask why I am asking these questions I'll give you an answer
After all these years up here you finally did something
You broke from your same boring conservative positions in the sky moved to the moon and aided in your master's escape.
You finally took action on something after all these years even if it was for a stupid reason.
You have never done anything like that in all my time up here.
Maybe it's madness, but I am finally slightly curious.
This does not mean that if I had anything better to do I'd waste my time with this, but I don't.
Not yet anyway.
So I'll see if perhaps there is anything that is worthy to know.
Silence.
I bet they are shocked.
They should be.

>>5180
Finally after what felt like an eternity I could feel a presence reach out to my mind.
That is several very loaded questions and would take awhile to answer.
I must admit this is a surprising turn of events. Considering how you have acted and your nature this is quite unexpected.
I almost want to make another quip but I decide against it.
Might as well give them a bit of breathing room so they can think how to respond.
Creatures of our nature are often said to be eternal, yet that is far from the truth.
It is an answer that we debate on how to verbalize. How to word. As are earliest memories are quite fragmented and to varying sensations and experiences are qualia internal to ourselves.
What we can say is that there is a beginning, and that there will be an end. Just as anything in the universe.
Typical, a vague non answer do to you being to lost in your love of obscurantism and subjectivity.
It is a vary loaded question, Cosmos. One that cannot easily be answered by one perspective. Obscurantism is a charge that we dispute.
Really? You love to hide and talk in riddles. Its so stupid. Just spell things out. You claim to be helping ponies yet you never just tell them directly.
I've sensed you reach out to the planet below. I know your star formations ofter clues to the future. It's all convoluted hogwash.
Then tell me, Cosmos, what can you do up here?
I honestly did not follow him. I was going to speak but felt the presence return to my mind.
You tell me what can you do to affect the world below. Have you ever just casually talked to anyone?
No, I can't. The sky is a prison for me. Why would you exp...
I trailed off as I realized the point he had just made.
You realize it don't you? The sky is a very cold very lonely place. Some of my brethren are hundreds of thousands of miles away. Talking with those upon the ground is no easy feat and it took us many years to master to where we our now. Especially when creatures fear the night and our ambassador. The Mistress of the dream worlds and one of the few could easily communicate with us got banished to the moon.
I could almost feel my teeth that I did not possess grit in anger. Yet it was something that I couldn't deny was true.
It left me in a rather confused state of mind in how to respond as I had, technically, been just humbled and gain a bit of understanding of creatures I hate.
When was the last time such a horror happened?

>>5181
I tried to work up the nerve to speak. At least to save my dignity and appear confident.
Embarrassment should be something that is beneath me.
So it seems I have finally found the reason why you act so stupid.
Oh please Cosmos have some humility! If stupid is the condition that we are in do to the limitations of the sky then you are the most stupidest of all
I hate you...
I hate you. As much as I hate to admit it, you have pointed out that we are all basically in the same boat up here.
Maybe there is hope for you after all. Admitting a mistake probably wasn't easy for you.
Wasn't easy? Betrayal wasn't easy. This is merely the torture I have grown used to while stuck up here.
Some say that's what leaning is. Especially with an untamed heart.
Chaos is not an untamed heart that needs to be reined in. Chaos is the natural state and anything else is the bandaid put loosely atop it to justif-no. No, debating the nature of universe will lead no where and would be rather boring. I'd like to continue my line of questioning.
If you so will it then I will answer. Even if it those answers may frustrate you I feel this is actually starting to resemble a protective dialog if we continue.
Don't try your luck.
It is you who is choosing to engage us. That advice applies more to yourself.
I felt enraged at myself for letting such a star best me.
Yet how long has it been since I had talked with anyone?
Only occasional lesser cosmic entities and the dreams of a few when I felt like forcing my presence down to the planet below. Something I did not indulge in often do to not wanting my soul to be fragmented more than it was.
I should have expected to be at least somewhat rusty at talking, conversation, and basic social interaction.
Still didn't stop me from feeling like a fool.
Tell me about Luna. How does see relate to you and why do you let yourself be subservient to someone much closer to a mortal state than yourselves?
I could here a chatter among them. Whispers and half words as before when I had first reached out.
Perhaps I had struck a nerve. Though with my failure earlier I dare not gloat and make witty remarks.
Just politely wait for what they have to say.

>>5183
Luna is a very difficult topic to go into to someone who is a total outsider like yourself.
Especially when their is considerable debates among us of her exact nature, but I can give you the basics.
Subservient is not the word that most would choose to describe our relationship. Though I degree of submission is involved, but also cooperation.
She is the one in charge of the night and dreams of this world.
She controls the moon and has considerable say on other phenomena of the night's sky. Including us to an extent, though it was always with our consultation and sometimes rejection.
Her will is supposed to be in harmony with that of nature itself. Locked in her prison she was able to do much but reach out in pain and anger and everything other than the moon being managed by her sister was left in stagnation.
You do describe her as 'mistress'. It seems you recognize her will and she has always been said to be princess of the night. Is she not your princess and you her subjects?
The title of princess is a title bestowed upon her by ponies of the nation of Equestria and not the title that we generally recognize as applying to us. As it would be applying the will of a mortal nation when in reality our relationship is with her alone.
We refer to her as mistress as a recognition over her rule over the night and its a night we reside in. Though some of my kind may take issue with my wording here; we fully separate entities with our own civilization and interests, but we reside within her sky and that is where any submission comes from, not from being her subjects herself.
I am tempted just to laugh at you for the sheer mental gymnastics you go through just over thinking all that, but I'd rather dig a little deeper.
How did this start? How did her will extent out to the all the sky around this planet? What did you do before that?
Destiny. Though as I stress again, we haven't fully understood her nature either, she arose just as the number of ponies looking skyward was dwindling and the sun and the moon cycle was under threat. Nature, ever careful to keep everything in balance, produced two ponies whose magic was fit to take up the task.
When she received her cutie mark she just gradually reached out upon the sky from the moon and into the dream world and it became apparent that it was her domain.
I pondered upon what he had to say. Not exactly sure how much as to trust him.
The stars where fickle creatures and never could fully agree on anything. The star I was talking to even almost seemed a bit nervous to be speaking.
Naturally with beings as presupposed to arguments as them it would be understandable.
He was probably just giving me what fragile consensus that existed plus his own spin on things.
Was that of any value?
Should I dig deeper? Go down the rabbit hole? I had one last question that tickled my fancy.

>>5184
You are not the only stars in the sky. There are others, far from here, whose glow reaches here. Yet they are giant balls of hot gas and fire. What are they to you and what are you to them?
Those far points of light we have limited information on. It is a mistake to assume we are the same. Giant balls of fire are other suns, not stars.
I am confused. For as a being of a chaos I have traveled the stars and other worlds both grander and more boring than this. Throughout the places I have been stars and suns have been generally a unified concept that existed as one. At least once a civilization understands basic "science" and has good telescopes.
I have seen a few other celestial objects that have been considered stars while not being balls of fire. I myself I am a star I suppose in this state. Yet a system of cosmic creatures that claim to be stars and suns not being stars is something that has always confused me here.
You are either foolish, lieing, or have a radically different perspective on what stars is.
I do not trust beings such as yourselves to have a fully innocent intent, so I suspect one of the former over the latter.
So in what you ask in so many words what makes us stars and other points of light not stars?
Yes.
I'm afraid I'm not too familiar of the cosmic plain beyond the local region. We were born here. Most of us will probably never leave and eventually die here. Here, stars are us and suns are other worlds in which we mostly do not concern ourselves as the distance too great for us to know. If what you claim is true it is certainly interesting to ponder and-
The world on far is bound by the same basic rules as this. Those points of light and us are all stars, but they are suns to their own worlds while our world only has Celestia's sun, which is a star to those worlds and many others. Most small points of light in the sky, regardless of what they are, are stars from afar and can be used to see in the future and the past.
That does not reflect current consensus.
And you have had little experience with the outside, I have traveled among the stars, and it is the consensus among us who have traveled, by dream and by physical distance.
You stars always bicker on everything from the most simplest semantics to secondary meanings. To hear you bicker among yourselves reminds me why I haven't asked you questions and stayed silent all these years. Though I have been slightly entertained I have learned little information that sheds light on you.
I saw that the nature of the stars prevents me from getting a clear answer. Part of me wanted just to leave the conversation but with them returning to their bickering I felt tempted to seek a small vengeance.
Dare I get haughty again?
Dare I try to swing a sword?

>>5185
I told you it wasn't an easy answer and many things are unclear to us.
You are impatient and have the mind of a small foal. The reason you have not grown to understand is because your are self concerned with yourself that you never learned to listen.
To be fair as short of the conversation it has been it has been moderately productive. Though her nature remains she has looked beyond herself and expressed slight interest in us.
I have seen the same you have seen. Indeed those points are true but that still doesn't invalidate that she is a foal in personality and should be treated as such.
That is not a fair approach to a being that is at least as old as we are. I believe in harsh correction and consider her childish but she is acting like a child, not a child in nature.
Oh please. You all are so high and mighty in a thousand different ways. You see the bickering now?
You are just as you claim us to be. You should be thankful we are willing to talk at all!
Anger is not the answer either. We need to remain calm and present a unified side. Hostility will get us no where.
Though we are in no argument on her nature, I agree on approach.
You are the one that broke that approach by choosing to interject and break the unified front that we were presenting.
Additionally, I also think you are in error for your use of pony terminology over neutral terms. We serve all of the world, not just Equestria.
We serve Princess Luna.
Such an argument over the nature of Luna is a derailment of the topic at hand.
It was time to swing my sword. Maybe I was a fool; maybe my vengeance would be granted.
In anycase I wouldn't have to stick around for long.
Everyone stop and look at yourselves. You are lost in thought and blind to the world before you. You have only proven my point.
It is merely vigorous debate!
A highly unproductive one. We need to engage her with one voice.
It was foolish to begin speaking at all.
It was foolish for you to start attacking me for only trying to give the view of one who has traveled!
Do you not see the state you are in? Do you not see what I have done? What you call vigorous debate I call one thing.
CHAOS!
Can't you see it? All of you are in an inherent state of chaos and you are all trying to put a broken bandaid of a philosophical and moral system upon it but can't have a unified front because it is being pulled in a thousand different directions.
You have not caused this. Merely the mistakes made on our part
Yes I have. I reached out and talked to you and you all fell apart over the first hard question.
It was a mistake to try to engage you. If you weren't so vile I'd apologize for taking your time.

>>5186
Be gone from me fools. Maybe one day you will speak in a unified voice, or maybe you will finally learn that CHAOS reigns supreme upon all!
Maybe you will one day awaken and see that truth, until than leave me to my own devices.
I immediately withdrew my mind from the ruckus as I heard a couple of rebuttals being uttered.
I payed no mind to what they said. I was tiered of all the mental gymnastic and engaging them further might rob me of the small victory I had won after that first star had made me a fool.
I turned my attention to the planet below.
I felt a strange sense of emotion and power at work.
Within a few minutes the sun had moved back to where it was day on this side of the planet.
Luna had lost.
What a pity. Oh well, I won't be so foolish as to be vanquished by Celestia when I finally get there.
My thoughts did however turn to what they called the most powerful force in the universe, Love, or whatever they called various emotion magics that they and the ponies below tried to weave together into a coherent philosophy.
Such emotional magic seemed to be at work down below.
It did make me feel ever so slightly interested in its power. If it had indeed taken out Luna.
Though it was nothing compared to me, it had very long time since I had felt such a display of power from the planet below.
Maybe things would soon be getting interesting again?

>>5187
And there my fic ends. This started as a idea to see if I could use only comic edits for an illustration of a fic and I became fixated on a certain implication that I had seen at the very start of the show. The stars will aid in her escape. https://youtu.be/xDBExPJtlzc?t=101 Though I abandoned the effort of comic edits the star theme was extended as I thought more into it. The stars as mentioned in the prophecy and as show for their brief part of screentime appear to be the ones that free Luna. What does that mean? It suggests that they are some kind of entity and not a far away glowing ball of gas out far away. They are stars in the classical sense I suppose in a heliocentric model of the universe. It also suggests that they have some kind of subservience to Luna. This little aspect has been often overlooked in the fandom. With the most I've seen being them being distinct entities or creatures in some fics. A popular fan theory is that that whole line of the prophecy is symbolic for Twilight Sparkle's cutie mark (which is symbolic for her and the other elements). While I think the symbolism argument possibly stands to some degree as some of those subtleties in season 1 are one of the things I do agree had some more thought put into that can be read into at least a bit, this is still season 1. They still clearly portrayed four stars slowly close in on the moon while heavily implying that the stars themeselves were the ones aiding in her escape and possible symbolism aside with season 1 it's best to stick what is directly told onscreen till proven otherwise (well, in most cases). Have haven't really seen such a other celestial bodies mentioned much and outside of dreams Luna has mainly show mythology associated with the moon. Where does that leave us? Canonically they barely exist and a conservative approach leaves us with both a lot and a little. Can we really say much other than that they are some kind of that may have a bit of autonomy? No.

This is one of the ways Cosmos arc interested me with the showing of her being split up into stars in a classical sense and sent up into the sky. Though it's not her natural state it still gives a tiny thread to the idea of stars being a distinct other entity from a far away sun. It, unless there was something in a previous arc I was not aware of or some other spinoff work, was the closest we ever got to this concept. If Cosmos was a constellation in the sky and those stars would be her neighbors and so the fic was made. Do I claim this as a canon theory? No. It's just below that. Me toying around with what is there as an idea to see what it could be like.

>>5188
Of course this is just as much about Cosmos to. I tried to put what I think would be her guiding philosophy. I tried to think how her attitude would be. Bored, ever confident yet with vengeance and a hint uncertainty underneath. I cannot rate how I did yet, as I wanted to read each of Cosmos arc and post my impressions after each. So I've only read the first two so far and one I haven't even reread.

Additionally I am aware of that Cosmos probably fell before the start of the series but I just had her there so she would be interacting with the stars in their only action on screen.

>>5189
oh yeah I figured out the formatting problem. Apparently blue breaks with question marks. Why? I don't know. My initial thought is because they are used in this site's markdown code for cyan yet they work just fine in pink. My formatting could have been a bit better as probably should have made all the question marks black and the change from pink being Cosmos' narrative voice to her spoken voice looks could be a bit jarring now looking at the finished product.

Welp. I'll get to the other stuff later. Goodnight /endpone/.

>>5190
>Apparently blue breaks with question marks. Why? I don't know.
hmm interesting, I should write down that detail for the future. One could ask this on /operate/ but it seems that you figured that out by testing the feature with a couple of deleted posts.

>My formatting could have been a bit better as probably should have made all the question marks black and the change from pink being Cosmos' narrative voice to her spoken voice looks could be a bit jarring now looking at the finished product.
as long as one can tell who is who, it shouldn´t matter all that much.

>>5191
goodnight Bridgefag
yes, you´ve got plenty of stuff to reply. In the meantime, I´ll figure out how to review this, especially considering that you have been toying around with an idea nor it´s based on the entire arc (only the first two issues) so the approach is different here.

Thinking about it, I think that the feedback and the commentary (deconstructing it)are more valuable here than a hollow rating (I arrived really late at reviewing The Mare in The Mountain though). Besides, it´s fresh content that isn´t as easy to digest as other things.

For now, PoLS tonight.

>>5192
>hmm interesting, I should write down that detail for the future. One could ask this on /operate/ but it seems that you figured that out by testing the feature with a couple of deleted posts.
I just don't know why it doesn't break with other color formating...

>as long as one can tell who is who, it shouldn´t matter all that much.
I suppose. Though next time I'd like to try for more consistency. Pink against the blue is also a bit of a pain to read without highlighting it.

>I´ll figure out how to review this
Take your time. I'll be busy trying to figure out how to save thousands of comments from Youtube's oncoming purges

Goodnight L23 and fellow lurkers who sometimes post!

>>5196
>I just don't know why it doesn't break with other color formating...
maybe Odili is the one that actually leads the stars.....at bringing as some "light" more like an explanation for this bug

>Though next time I'd like to try for more consistency. Pink against the blue is also a bit of a pain to read without highlighting it.
if that doesn´t convince you, you can point out in a post what color belongs to X character and what represents the narrative. I have read this without the colours and it´s a little bit confusing but checking it again, it seems that Cosmos goes in pink, her narrative in black and the rest are the stars that have bored her and have tried to establish a pointless debate with her (correct me if I am wrong).

>Take your time.
I am going to need it but keep in mind that I have already read it entirely. I mean, from short little greens that were bits of shitposting to three entire fics (four if Cadencebat counts as a complete one) that....well, the narration dominates the protagonist´s mind.

This goes more in the line of the Revolution fic in the sense that the first existential posts make you wonder a little bit if someone´s reading a MLP fic or the philosophy established from that character, almost as if Cosmos has had too much time to think. It´s not until Luna is mentioned in the conversation (implying that this conversation happened in Episode 1) and especially towards the end, where the story starts to take off to somewhere else. Her rebellious attitude actually changes the tone and the ambient of the fic simultaneously.It seems more like an introduction than anything else.

I can relate with two things (according to your implications) about her: never listening to anyone else and the fact that the stars were too pretentious to even prove their points. However, I can´t tell how much of the author´s brain is implied over here (besides show´s canon). Either it is about criticizing narcissism or it´s about measuring the levels of edginess with a prestablished mindset so the future actions can have their context. Because again, all it seems that this fic is leading for something else that we don´t know (which makes sense considering that you have admitted not reading beyond the first two issues, just focusing on the lore more than Cosmos´ character/behaviour).

I could go beyond with this but these are my first impressions so it doesn´t feel like I have left your work behind (like I did with the Mare in the Mountain). This is mostly because of:

>I'll be busy
this.

Bridgefag, I might sound hypocritical and anti-anonymous for the format given here but in order to review the fics, I need to figure out about the author (at least in one post or in all the post for the story) and the context behind the fic.

From here >>5108, >>5109, >>5176 to >>5187, I am going to imply that the fanfiction is called: The Stars Will Aid in Her Escape.

You don´t have a name but I have to assign it (personally speaking, others can do whatever they want) so I can have a better reference of the style that you use for writing these short stories (Revolution fic and The Mare in the Mountain). From now on, ratings are sort of useless, so you won´t see any numbers like I did in the past. I would like to focus more on the interpretations that I can extract from it and what this fic presents here.

That doesn´t mean that I won´t comment about the enjoyment that I can get from it though but I have changed a little bit the form of criticism that I could pull out in the future.

and Proof of Life Shitpost (again), attaching the princess of the /night/.

Wow have a lot of replies to do. Had something come up water...

PoLS

>>5231
at this step you are going to write a little fic about water. Call me crazy or delusional but I think that, as fanfics are expressions of ourselves at some point, that thing is becoming a recurring theme lately.

Well, how many PoLS am I going to deliver these days? It sure seems fun taking notes for studying in the near future (yes because studying during Christmas is a thing that....I don´t particularly recommend but oh well, one has to bear with it).

Today has been Winter Solstice so this means that we are experiencing the longest night of the year cycle. It´s like touching the deep bottom that the day can achieve and so, the cycle takes a turning point and from decreasing the light, the days are going to increase slowly the hours of the sun. Not as special a Christmas but still, it´s the most fitting time for posting one of the Royal Sisters tonight.

Have a nice night /endpone/ and hopefully, I can make some replies with more depth in the next days.

>>5240
Take your time. If you haven't noticed. I am the one playing catch up with you. Plus trying to get my own plans back on track. No rush.

Have a nice night. Best of luck with studying!

The Stars Will Aid in Her Escape by the Bridgefag >>5108

So i have been reading a couple of times your fic and we´ve got to make clear a couple of things beforehand:

1.This fic was written with Endchan´s format in mind. Now,this might work perfectly for this site, considering the variety of colours that this imageboard can offer but as soon as you post it on FIMFiction, read it on Word or even posted as a green on /mlp/, it can become certainly confusing at first sight, especially when it comes to these two posts >>5185 and >>5186. This is probably my biggest criticism and problem towards this fic because technically it´s really well written for a 1st person narrative but this might lead to a problem due to the lack of "I said" or "Star 1 answered".

2. The reader has to take into account these lined from yours >>5188 before reviewing it or even giving a rating:
>a certain implication that I had seen at the very start of the show.
>Though it's not her natural state it still gives a tiny thread to the idea of stars being a distinct other entity from a far away sun.
>Me toying around with what is there as an idea to see what it could be like.
so the average fan who has read the IDW comics might imply that this Cosmos that you are exposing here is in her draconequus form when the theory from yours exposes that from an heliocentric perspective (which makes sense considering how much Equestria relies on both the sun and the moon), the symbolism taken from The Mare In the Moon implies that Cosmos was created because of Luna´s orbit and not because of the Andalusian constellation, unless said constellation coincidentally happens to be that one. It´s just far too much of a coincidence to be true and even if IDW writers wanted to be that twisted, they could mess it up easily and confuse even more the readers with the first time of meeting her.

Any fan who reads this has to take these lines into account before diving into your fic and get immersed by your idea. From here, the interpretations and subjective views should vary. The technical points and context explanations end here.

And now, what can I say towards your story?

I am not the best at judging texts and interpreting stories but I must say that it´s quite well written by using those descriptions that you have been exposing in these fics. It almost seems like you are in your comfort zone while typing those parts. I cannot be the only one pointing out that your descriptions do hold a pattern between getting philosophical and explaining the context.

So, the main character here is Cosmos (pink text) and comes in a 1st person narrative. We see from her that her old age has made her bored of her existence as a single star. It´s quite odd to have a disembodied protagonist that is yet to get some form and if this were animated, we would have to perceive a distinct visual aspect from her or some signs besides her character.

So what we see here are these aspects from the introduction:
>My adventures. My exploits. My travels across the... Cosmos
a justification of her name
>Though I will return to my lover.
>He is my lessor half after all.
>I can feel it near. He is alive on the earth below.
her motivation to exist: meeting Discord and become his eternal girlfriend

>Always speaking in their riddles and trying to sound like wise sages.
>They always would pout and be mad. Trying to hold me by a mortal based morality.
her motifs to be angry towards the other protagonists: four other stars that always act as wise, sages in comparison to her rebellious attitude. This means that the author has established a context for her just to see that Cosmos was born because of corruption, remorse towards the other stars and finally, acknowledging what she likes the most: cause chaos to her pleasure.

Mostly because of these lines:
>I am a horrible listener.
>A being like me can't have flaws.
>Being a constellation in the sky is rather... boring to say the least
combining her boredom as a star, she has given up at listening to them. One has to highlight that she doesn´t consider herself as flawed, so this means that everything that she does will be seen as perfect to her sight. This explains why Discord has known the limits of using chaos but Cosmos didn´t. In this regard, this fic is useful at trying to justify her existence and go further with the lore behind her.

From my experience at reading this, I was wondering at some moment if I was reading a FiM story because of the stars attitude. If it wasn´t because of their reasons to act serving for Princess Luna and stay as guardians of the universe, the fic could have been perfectly interpreted as a philosophical take at metaphysics. The one that drives and goes all out in this fic is Cosmos, whose actions pay off in the end. It´s like the author made the stars too pretentious at their existence so the reader almost feels bored because of them as well and this is where Cosmos shines the best here, the actions are driven by her intentions.

Her perspective sums it up pretty well the views towards them:
>>5176
>I remembered why I got so tired of talking with them. They see themselves as such high and noble beings yet can hardly muster to do anything other than speak and riddles and rhymes and try to pass onto mortals warnings of the future in the most indirect and convoluted ways imaginable.
so I am certainly wondering if the author intended to put a slice of irony here and take some sort of metacriticism at making them boring on purpose.

On the other hand:
>>5179
>Kinship, Love, Friendship it goes by many names. The basic building blocks of Harmony.
>>5181
>Creatures of our nature are often said to be eternal, yet that is far from the truth.
>Especially when creatures fear the night and our ambassador. The Mistress of the dream worlds and one of the few could easily communicate with us got banished to the moon.
the author adds other aspects to their wisdom and someone might wonder if these stars could cause some sort of destiny into the world of Equestria in a passive way when it comes at establishing the core values of harmony. So the biggest reason for them to exist is that they depend and rely on Princess Luna, hence you speculated that these stars were surrounding the moon in the premiere.

But the shining star (pun intended?) here is Cosmos obviously. What I can interpret from here is how she makes nervous the unified voice of the single star speaking to her and then, slowly regressing from wise to more causal and then to raging against her by dividing their voices.This is seen in more casual questions towards Cosmos´ behaviour and Cosmos notices how they are struggling at finding one clear answer towards their discourse. With this line:

>>5186
>Can't you see it? All of you are in an inherent state of chaos and you are all trying to put a broken bandaid of a philosophical and moral system upon it but can't have a unified front because it is being pulled in a thousand different directions.
>Yes I have. I reached out and talked to you and you all fell apart over the first hard question.
everything is clear, she exposes her actual plan at her conviction that if chaos beat an established intelligent morality, then she implies that she can do anything. The biggest strength that this fic offers in comparison to your previous work is:

Slow progression and buildup, changing the tone of the situation and reaching the core nature of Cosmos´character. This fic is a slow burner that explodes yet it feels like an introduction at the same time, as if we are watching an action movie and we have only seen the first 15 minutes or so of it.

so basically, Cosmos acts as a troll and the trigger or plot device that leads up to this situation is that the stars moved because Luna was coming back to Equestria and while she was getting defeated by her sister, Cosmos messes up her old boring partners at asking questions out of curiosity, testing how much information she can get out of them. Not only that but the stars get driven into madness at reaffirming themselves at how Cosmos is so adventurous to even make such questions and she manages to drive them into her territory, discovering the fun she can get out of it.

To me, I interpret that this fic was inspired or an allegory of Pandora´s box, opening said box out of sheer curiosity, with one simple action and causing so much trouble and aggravating consequences. However, the consequences wouldn´t pay off and turn out to be visible into this world until much later, so she stays hibernating for a while. Cosmos realizes about how that planet, notices which planet she is going to take over and noting two main characters that we know: Celestia and Luna.

However, the biggest contradiction that this fic might have is that she doesn´t have an special correlation towards Princess Luna, she uses the Mistress as any other tool for attracting Discord in the comics. If she had any sort of interest towards Luna, she would have left a sign towards her. But nope, she just took over her body with another star to link and complete her full corporeal form.

It becomes clear that this fic is more based around that fan theory about Twilight´s symbol and the implication of those four stars surrounding the moon in the premiere. Cosmos doesn´t acknowledge Luna as a special pony who wanted to have a personal connection and a motivation to take over Equestria. If anything, Luna was just a means to an end so Cosmos could meet Discord again. What is useful though, it´s that she acknowledges that Celestia could be a huge obstacle for her plans.

So what can I say towards this fic? Overall, if we are taking into account that the author is tinkering around a fan theory, combining that with the implied lore about Cosmos, this fic could be a pretty interesting take to consider and also would explain a little bit of that unknown destiny that we have seen in FiM.

The biggest flaw that I can point out in this fic are the lack of "she said" or punctuation signs. On Endchan, the colours fit amazingly well but on FIMFiction or any other place without the coloring features, one can get somewhat confused (at least personally speaking). And the 2nd flaw that I can take out of it but this is more subtle, it´s that (from what I´ve read from the comics) is that Cosmos doesn´t have any special connection nor intentions towards Luna in the comics. Otherwise she would have a dropped a mysterious line or personal attachment towards her. Although I understand why you did this action and for the theme of this thread, you have nailed it at trying to combine the concept of this /night/ thread and Cosmos herself. If you intended that, it´s nicely done.

And what else? Do I have to mention the descriptions again? I fail to see anything wrong with them here honestly. The adjectives are varied, the tone of the fic slowly progresses as it advances through it and I consider it, a slow burner. The fic does work better when you realize where this fic is placed in the timeline.

Conceptually speaking, this fic emphasizes a lot in its theme and lore standpoints. In this regard, it shines better than the other two. It´s less confusing than the Revolution fic but not quite as obvious and direct like The Mare In the Mountain. In terms of entertainment, I prefer the fic about Cadence´s mystery but I can predict this story as a grower for a few fans and pick this one.

A fanfic made for ending the decade and mark an era of post gen 4, when the interpretations and the stories are implied and interpreted from the fans in hindsight. A welcome addition to your catalog so you have a third high profile fic to expose out there. I give it the green light.

Pre-emptive PoLS

>>5252
oops. Wrong thread. I just wasn't sure on next few days so I would shitpost on NiAME just because. I have fully read the review.

posting a few pictures that I found on Ponibooru. As you can see, they don´t have the serial number but I bet that all these picture were also uploaded on Derpi or Deviantart. Except for >>5614 which was deleted by the artist in the latter.

>...manipulate and twist...

>....suppressing...

>...everything...

>...hide stuff...

>...nothing to be afraid...
...you...
>...you know the words...
...you came...
>...your denial...
...to see me...
>...the truth is painful...
...is that true?...
>...I know...
...little filly?...
>...your nature will hurt you more...
...but I repeat...
>...than me...
...maybe you will never wake up...
>...harming your true potential...
...that was your choice...

>...manipulate and twist...
...are you hearing these words?...
>....suppressing...
...I do...
>...everything...
...because...
>...hide stuff...
...perhaps you have dreamed...
>...nothing to be afraid...
...about them before...
>...you know the words...
...or even worse...
>...your denial...
...you believe that they are mine...
>...the truth is painful...
...but I am not...
>...I know...
...maybe in the past...
>...your nature will hurt you more...
...you wrote them...
>...than me...
...or...
>...harming your true potential...
...you wrote them that night...

>...manipulate and twist...
...why are you here?...
>....suppressing...
...think of that question...
>...everything...
...you came here...
>...hide stuff...
...to ask me...
>...nothing to be afraid...
...something that I know...
>...you know the words...
...but that...
>...your denial...
...comes with a price...
>...the truth is painful...
...I knew about those...
>...I know...
...other two before...
>...your nature will hurt you more...
...and they admire me...
>...than me...
...they wanted to see me...
>...harming your true potential...
...again with you...

>...MANIPULATE AND TWIST...
...most ponies lately...
>....SUPPRESSING...
...have been calling me a different name...
>...EVERYTHING...
...Haven't we met before?...
>...HIDE STUFF...
...Only the one...
>...NOTHING TO BE AFRAID...
...will know to herself....
>...YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW THE WORDS...
...Why do you fear this?...
>...YOU DENIAL IS WHAT HURTS...
...Is strange bad?...
>...THE TRUTH IS NOT AS PAINFUL...
...You're a fool...
>...AS YOU KNOW...
...if this is what you fear...
>...BECAUSE HIDING YOUR TRUE NATURE WILL HURT YOU MORE...
...I am only trying...
>...THAN ME...
...to bring your true self into focus...
>...HARMING THE TRUE POTENTIAL THAT I WILL REVEAL...
...but as you don´t want to do that...

*the voices disappeared all of a sudden

...I will do it for you instead

>A form flew.... above the steep path above....

>...made its way down in a graceful, almost showy, manner.

>...did, it clearly was a....

>...coat, a dulled with a dark unnatural aura ...

>It flowed...

>...barely visible in the air.

>Her wings....

Don't deny it, you know the story, or perhaps should I tell words?

Some part of you likes it, or at least you did

with those drawings

should I show to you...

...those fishes that were floating around your head?

like those words, you knew them. I only brought them up because you wanted and you wished to see me

but is this a dream as an excuse to not face darkness?

All the ponies would do that in order to escape

but I am not a dream...


...unfortunately...

those two friends of yours

they are not listening to you...but me

and now, should I start again the process?

of revealing what I have become

You will figure out for yourself

with my presence why others have been calling me by a different name

After all, this mountain did hide a secret

And here is the mare who has earned that fame

So what´s the actual fear of yours?

In the /end/,why did you climb up here ...




Apple Bloom?

*the dream all of a sudden gets distorted after the mare showed up her true form

*Apple Bloom fainted because of the horror to see her like that

*the yellow filly looked exhausted to have gone through this experience,almost as if she were...

*a soothing melody happens to be appearing in the background and very different words came up inside her mind


>I can see you laughing
...
>Through dreams of perfect sleep
Apple Bloom?
>Sleep away from me
Apple Bloom, wake up!
>You know what's in my mind
Oh dear
>When you go I'm crying
Apple Bloom, react!
>Dream dream away from me
oh dear, she is not responding
>When the Lord embrace you
Perhaps, she wasn´t all that ready
>Bow down, spare the reed
All this because of me
>When I close my eyes
Apple Bloom, please. Don´t do this to me because of the fear
>Your fate shall be free
Scootaloo, Sweetie, quick, mount over me!
>When I see you drowning
Hurry,we are going back to the Crystal Empire
>I'll dream dream away from you
I hope she doesn´t get worse before getting there...

20

20

20

20

https://youtube.com/watch?v=5F4fr8KqD9A [Embed]

*the mare of that mountain flew at mach speed with the two fillies over her two bat wings
*her face changed radically after seeing the yellow filly blacking out, incapable to resist the fear
*the mare in the mountain was still saying this to herself during the trip back to her empire

>I can see you laughing
Apple BLoom, don´t do this to me!
>Through dreams of perfect sleep
How am I going to tell this to your family?
>Sleep away from me
Hopefully you are sleeping, I hope you do
>You know what's in my mind
!This didn´t happen to your friends, I believed that you were ready
>When you go I'm crying
Maybe the first impressions make a lot of damage
>Dream dream away from me
But there is always comfort,you couldn´t embrace the darkness an couldn´t wait for more explanations and now...
>When the Lord embrace you
I have to carry you urgently.
>Bow down, spare the reed
I didn´t expect this, I thought that you were strong enough to the actual truth..
>When I close my eyes
And you did but maybe it wasn´t the right time to go further...
>Your fate shall be free
Thankfully, I´ve been a mother in the past
>When I see you drowning
and I know when a filly suffers this kind of faints
>I'll dream dream away from you
Please Apple Bloom, hold it a few minutes more...

*and the princess was reaching the outskirts of the Crystal Empire,looking for the local hospital...

Well I'm half way done with one review for you to drop another! Awesome.

>>5657
hey, at least you cannot blame me for not bringing up entertainment from my part during this period of confinement.

So everything might have stopped for now but it doesn´t mean that the party is over.

Now my next two reviews are this little fic and SiVC's but they shall be done in a more casual manner.

>>5658
/endpone/ knows how to party! Those are tears of joy!

>>5814
>they shall be done in a more casual manner.
I think SivC deserves more than that though.The greentext I delivered for Lovebat doesn´t compare to its league.

>/endpone/ knows how to party! Those are tears of joy!
I mean, I am happy that you are emotional and find some joy during this quarantine. Very glad to hear this and all...


but I´ve got a question that leaves me confused. I don´t know if /endpone/ is actually all that lively. Except for the long Umbridge meme phenomena and the Apple Bloom shitposts, I don´t see this board upbeat enough for qualifying it a board meant for parties.

In fact, it´s in reverse (at least in my posts), the greens are not exactly happy if you can call them that in the slightest (much less the influences behind them) but really depressing at their core (and creepy on this one) >>5641

Still, keeping the mindset positive after all these events does have quite a lot of merit so I must look up to your reaction.

>>6092
I've heard of this before but not dived in depth into the topic.

BTW: I do not know if you were just lurking and mistakenly posted it here or if this a question genuinely directed at us but I suggest the chat thread to continue this topic. >>5562

>>6093
I had just made my evening cup of decaf, and thought the /night/ thread would be appropriate.

I guess I should ask, if you guys don't mind saying -- I'm in UTC-7, or "PDST" time zone -- it's tomorrow now.
Where are you?

>>6096
You know, why not? As it has been said threads can drift a little and I've already raised the subject of music here:
>>5139
and the /night/ was ill defined other than atmospheric. I will have a more proper reply in a bit as I have other IRL stuff atm.

>Where are you?
Central Standard Time. Though my schedule is random and therefore my posting hours. Often skew toward the night but also can be early morn or afternoon.

I mean, I admit that I have been direct but honestly, when it comes to tricking people into these topic just because of lack of knowledge when these theories have no actual scientific studies/reports from serious universities, I find myself under the obligation to cut this out. If you want good music, I can recommend you something according to your tastes, make a personalized chart for you or even discuss about what you want to listen but...

trust me, hearing people talk about "Music has been taken from us" or "I have been born in the wrong generation of music" are as tiresome if not even more than those MLP fans who claim that from Magical Mystery Cure onwards is not canon for the 4th generation. This is more of a general counter argument to those ideas.

>>6096
>I'm in UTC-7, or "PDST" time zone -- it's tomorrow now. Where are you?
reporting mine over here. Currently after changing one hour in March, my country is using UTC +2 until the last week October (Summer Time). From there until the last week of March, my country changes it to UTC+1 (Winter Time).

Which means that I am posting right now at midnight.

>>6099
>Schiller institute
That came from Lyndon LaRouche circle!?!

>>6100
>he mad
So, above all else, /night/ is supposed to, I'd assume, be contemplative. Somehow I managed to step on a nerve and get you riled. Let's try to take this down a notch, and reconsider:

I posted a video with a few minutes of tones, originally posted hoping to encourage healing thoughts, IE a mellow, meditative mood. The uploader speaks about 432/440 elsewhere, though not on this video, so I'm actually just assuming it's tuned to the 432 standard.
And for comparison I post ... a 4-year old smacking a drum set.
It's okay to laugh, as you should have gotten the joke by now.

>those who are promoting the 432 Hz frequency are record companies
Seriously? I've never once in my life heard someone try to sell me something when talking about the 432 standard. Rather, they recommend avoiding all commercial music because it's unhealthy for you, and they have generators produce healing tones (uhm, okay...) roughly in the same vein as folks might grow their own vegetables to avoid GMO crops.

>more of a marketing move than all the toy commercials of Hasbro
really? I mean, "Buy our toys REAL HARD" really?

>these theories have no actual scientific studies/reports from serious universities
I've seen some okay math. It's from laymen, but it seems plausible. Fibonacci sequence figures heavily into it.

I stand by what I said -- the 432 standard yielded a set of chords that felt cooperative, harmonious. The 440 stand sounded raucous. Don't get me wrong, there's a place for raucous music. Have you heard of Rock 'n' Roll? The style works well with raucous chords. But if you're wanting something more contemplative, that won't jar your conscious mind, I suspect I'd prefer the 432 stuff.
But since I don't buy music anyway, I'll probably just have to take what I can get.

>>6106
>apologies for the non-pony images.
don´t worry m8
>>6107
>/night/ -- tell me *that* is off topic here. (also, do you have a picture to go with *ANY* of that?)
m8, wait. Don´t worry about that at all. It´s not about the off topic practice, seriously there wasn´t a single problem by going off topic here and detouring the thread. However, I have decided to continue it in the /chat/ thread because you have also posted a more insightful tone with these two posts. It´s perfectly possible to continue that off topic here but as you decided to change the topic, I thought that it would clash and would not fit the tone of what you are presenting us here.

So before building up any more misunderstandings, it was more the response that I delivered towards the topic itself rather than the move of going off topic. Trust me, in that regard, I didn´t have any problems at all. So, don´t believe for a single moment that the blame was about you doing that. Don´t blame yourself.


With that clarification said about what happened yesterday, I will try to reply to your posts with the insightful side that you are looking for.

well, here we go.

>>6106
>When we first saw in the show, Luna could dreamwalk, I was ecstatic. Finally I could share with the herd my dream to truly be known. I was rebuffed. Many said it was repugnant and horrifying that she was given the capacity to violate so personal a place as to see what's literally in your head at night.
well, not only it has happened in that debut but also we have seen her doing that several times in the episode Do Princesses Dream of Magic Sheep....so, whether they find it repugnant or not, it´s canon.

>people who are very good at dream interpretation can suddenly find out what kind of person you are, what secrets you're mulling over, when they read your dream journal.
well, in this day and age where social media rule the internet and people share everything that you can imagine, I wonder if a part of those victims,by entering into their privacy, will care all that much in the first place. Nonetheless, it´s understandable why people are hiding certain things from the inside that should stay only in their own minds.

>I've not been able to maintain any form of dream journal since moving to this house last year, because there is no place in the bedroom for a nightstand, nor a small light. My wife might be awoken and more than that, I would have to grab pencil, journal, and slippers and stumble out to ... someplace where I could see, think, remember and write. Dreams don't live that long after you wake up.
so that explains why there is a sense of defeat from your part because transitioning from the dreams to the writing takes time and unavoidable noises are involved through the process. Indeed, your mind cannot keep the dream alive for too alive in order to imagine it completely at face value.

Nonetheless, I find quite weird (and unfortunate) that your bedroom doesn´t allow you to have much space in order to place a nightstand nor any small lamp. How many square meters does your flat (or your bedroom) have?

>>6107
>When I was a child I dreamt often of maneating coral. Swimming pools, in particular, would sometimes become infected and the first a random swimmer would learn of it, was that when he stepped on an oddly colored section of floor, he would find himself stuck. Within seconds a full tropical array of plants would grow THROUGH their leg. A few people had been able to cut off their stuck leg at the knee, and thus survived to warn future swimmers.
>it just poked above the surface of the water.
>it would never again be safe to swim in that pool (but some tried it, hoping to swim above the coral proper. After all, this was the pool they had to swim in, and there was no other way).

oh my goodness. It sounds like a horror script and it´s giving me vibes of that film called Creepshow 2 (around the 9th minute) produced during the 80s:

https://youtube.com/watch?v=7WLLBRmDeck [Embed]

Just that it happens in a lake instead.

>Themes in my modern life feature two things
>One is the path. It starts out like a multilane highway, but the higher it climbs the more it peters out, until I wake stuck on a deer trail cutting through a cliff in the Andes, only fog below, only loose rocks to guide me, no sounds of human activity. Sometimes there'll be a hut, or a house I know. It's off the path, and the people that live there now, don't notice me. So that doesn't help.
for some reason, after thinking about it for a while, it hides within its settings something metaphorical. The interpretations can vary a lot when it comes to judging these sentences from yours with a proper but:

Could it be related to age? I mean, when you are a child, you have illusions and lots of friends that accompany you through that ride but the more that you grow up, the less clear the path is for you (and less contacts that will support you for this journey). The trail could mean that it is a path to follow only for yourself that you find convenient. Those random people who live in those houses that don´t notice you won´t care about what you do. The fog could indicate your solitude and the guiding rocks could mean your daily short term actions.

Perhaps I am deviating too much from what you are trying to transmit here though.

>>6107
>The other is water.
before I dig deeper into this one, I am familiar with this element and I have lost my count at how many times I have been thinking/dreaming about this one.

>the city in question was thirty feet under water.
>The water had been rerouted, so there was also a dry underground cave-city that had been active in the '30s, and occasionally the dream would jump to the above-ground city that was built as a continuous harbor / float.
>If you slipped from the over city, you could get mired in clay and drown. But in the under-city, we had some means of breathing in the underwater city, though I remember pretty much nothing about that
so the dream has its leaps when it comes to the location. I cannot say much about this one because it lacks of enough information in order to interpret something subtle or any concealed message within its settings. I do have a question though, how does one drown in the over city if the under-city does have the mediums to avoid that? Wouldn´t both cities be agree on avoiding this problem for both sides? Or are both disconnected enough between each other?

>Sulu being a motorcycle racing fanatic (actually a retired racer, which is why he was hired to ... rebuild an underwater city?)
>anyway, Sulu was excited to see I'd decorated the wall above the ramp to the wooden chair/elevator with racing leathers I'd managed to save when the above ground store that was selling them, fell into the water.
I am asking the same question as well, what intentions does he hold for that place? What appealed to him in order to go there and rebuild it?

Honestly,for this one, I find it more complicated than the first case. Still, you have asked yourself if it makes any sense while you were typing this text so at least, you have reflected accidentally the differences between sticking literally to the dream and thinking rationally about it in a "post-mortem" manner (in the sense of said dream) .

>>6113
>your bedroom doesn´t allow you

We don't have one, but that's for a few reasons -- the nightstands we have are deployed elsewhere, and since we have an amazingly comfortable queen-size bed, the 9½x14 foot room (twelve and a third square meters, says google) and a 240v wall-mount heater to dodge, and three dressers (two seated _inside_ the closet, thus outside that 9x14 space) we only have room for one nightstand. It would go on my side, but I've pieced together that if I do acquire one, we'll be switching sides so she can have a nightstand first.

>>6114
>oh my goodness.

When I write it out, and look it over, it's a little creepy. And it was certainly disturbing at the time, but I have looked enough into dream interpretation to know, I think, what it meant.
In dreams, water almost always means 'emotion' -- there's a few other things it could mean, but with me that's the symbol for "skeletons in the closet I try to forget about"
And my mom was dying for as long as I knew her, and I have the same disease although guys don't die young from it, for lack of estrogen. I believe now, that my inexperienced mind was wrestling with mortality, even though no one had said she would die any time soon, I could also see the writing on the wall, as it were.
And sometimes you have to swim anyway, because that's what you do.

>>6114
>Could it be related to age?
Pretty sure it's a mid-life crisis dream. At the start of this journey it all seemed so clear -- "success is up there"
Now that I should be nearly there, I have no idea where I am or where to go from here.

>>6115
> have lost my count at how many times I have been dreaming about this

Have you looked up any dream dictionaries? They're fun, sometimes useful, sometimes frustrating, and often a new-age barrel of crap.
The reason "dream dictionaries" work, is that the human experience transcends cultures and times. Except where it doesn't.
The trick I've latched onto in interpreting dreams, is that everything there, is you. When your uncle shows up in the dream, it's not your uncle, it's how you feel about your uncle that shows up in the dream.
Usually I've found that if you read several common reasons for a symbol, such as water, to be used in a dream, that it will "feel right" and you'll be able to piece together what the whole of it was.
And in my case, they're usually elaborate questions, like the mice building Earth in Hitchhiker's Guide
Other times it's a frustrating mess because you know this aspect means something, but you can't find what.

Since you live in Europe, you may not relate to this at all, but it occurred to me after I wrote down the themes and the one recent example. In the cave-city, all the streets were in shops and the like, and they were stuff to overflowing with ... random things.

The feeling I had in the dream was very memorable, and one I've felt before. But I don't know if you'll understand if you've never moved into a stick-built standalone house that someone else just moved out of.
Did you ever move in, and find their junk drawer still full? The first of two houses I lived in during my childhood, we were renting a house on the water, and there was a barn that had been used as a shop, a garage, and a storage area. It was still full of many, many metal items. Both small parts, and complete ... things.
Being 6, I didn't know what I was looking at, and I understood I wasn't supposed to mess with them, but the sheer wonder at their intricacy that spoke to some alien design and applicability to a purpose.
To say I was mesmerized would be a great exageration, but I was certainly filled with wonder. And I have felt it every time I moved -- looking for that, which was left behind, and trying to piece together the stories they tell.

Why does my subconscious include that feeling in a story about accepting a job from a muckety-muck who wants to have another factory running for his profit?

>thinking rationally about it in a "post-mortem" manner

Yeah, never do that. It's fun, it can lead to a decent 'fic, but dreams are their own thing.

>I find it more complicated
My wife always stutters, amazed, at the level of detail my dreams piece together to tell the story. At least, the few times I wrote it all down. But to be sure, some are simpler.
One dream, maybe 12 years ago? I was snuggling with my girlfriend, who was a rabbit, but had done up her appearance (more grooming/makeup than any kind of shape-shifting) to look like a wolf. Rabbits aren't too common in my dreams, but the one dream I remember "getting lucky" was with the cheerleading werewolves (I was home-schooled, and that dream was before I would otherwise have been in highschool. Just teenage lust, and I guess I was a furry all the way down, so ... werewolves).

hay! have some appropriate music to listen to while you read my diatribe

https://radiarc.bandcamp.com/track/hallowed-night

>>6116
>It would go on my side, but I've pieced together that if I do acquire one, we'll be switching sides so she can have a nightstand first.
definitely the size is not that small but considering that it is really cluttered, it makes sense.

>if I do acquire one, we'll be switching sides so she can have a nightstand first.
well, at least you could spend take advantage of that whenever you install it, less time between for that transition.

>water almost always means 'emotion' -- there's a few other things it could mean, but with me that's the symbol for "skeletons in the closet I try to forget about"
one wouldn´t imply at first that there is a metaphorical reason that is explained with your personal background so at first, mostly everyone would stick to the literal version.

>And my mom was dying for as long as I knew her, and I have the same disease although guys don't die young from it, for lack of estrogen.
what da...? So you have an hereditary disease? Which one do you have? Neurodegenerative? Digestive? A blood disease? Personally, the closest one that I could have got is the Hepatitis B Virus from my mother but fortunately, neither my brothers nor me got it. So we are fortunate in that sense.

>my inexperienced mind was wrestling with mortality, even though no one had said she would die any time soon, I could also see the writing on the wall, as it were.
at what age did she die by the way?

And obviously, you had these thoughts because hey, you were a kid and hard events can turn into traumas or psychological problems for people who are so innocent and inexperienced in this world. The impact could have been much lower if this had happened a few years later on.

>And sometimes you have to swim anyway, because that's what you do.
indeed. There is a point where no matter how much you think about it, you realize that you don´t have any other way but moving on. That occurs automatically.

>>6117
>Pretty sure it's a mid-life crisis dream. At the start of this journey it all seemed so clear -- "success is up there"
considering your explanation about your personal life, reading this doesn´t surprise me all that much. There was enough material to dig deep and codify the message beneath the words exposed.

>Now that I should be nearly there, I have no idea where I am or where to go from here.
Now, the midlife crisis, good luck. Although Bridgefag has gone through that phase so perhaps he has something to say about this period.

>Have you looked up any dream dictionaries?
no, I haven´t.

>The reason "dream dictionaries" work, is that the human experience transcends cultures and times.
correct.

>The trick I've latched onto in interpreting dreams, is that everything there, is you.
that´s...not a outlandish strategy to take. I mean, all comes from your own mind and your brain could display a few connections that don´t make sense rationally but they do, not to mention that the brain doesn´t stop working while you are sleeping (it simply stays less active)

>Other times it's a frustrating mess because you know this aspect means something, but you can't find what.
>Yeah, never do that. It's fun, it can lead to a decent 'fic, but dreams are their own thing.
and this right here justifies why the inability to interpret a dream doesn´t pay off exactly like you would like to imagine. Because of that, I wouldn´t rely on them too much except for a few moments/scenes that would set up a plot device of that story. However, either you use the rationalism (by perverting several elements) or the results can become an utter mess. You have actually shown this problem in public.

>Could it be related to age?
Pretty sure it's a mid-life crisis dream. At the start of this journey it all seemed so clear -- "success is up there"
Now that I should be nearly there, I have no idea where I am or where to go from here.

>>6117
> have lost my count at how many times I have been dreaming about this

Have you looked up any dream dictionaries? They're fun, sometimes useful, sometimes frustrating, and often a new-age barrel of crap.
The reason "dream dictionaries" work, is that the human experience transcends cultures and times. Except where it doesn't.
The trick I've latched onto in interpreting dreams, is that everything there, is you. When your uncle shows up in the dream, it's not your uncle, it's how you feel about your uncle that shows up in the dream.
Usually I've found that if you read several common reasons for a symbol, such as water, to be used in a dream, that it will "feel right" and you'll be able to piece together what the whole of it was.
And in my case, they're usually elaborate questions, like the mice building Earth in Hitchhiker's Guide
Other times it's a frustrating mess because you know this aspect means something, but you can't find what.

>Since you live in Europe, you may not relate to this at all, but it occurred to me after I wrote down the themes and the one recent example. In the cave-city, all the streets were in shops and the like, and they were stuff to overflowing with ... random things.
are you referring to enclosed streets that work like a shopping center or a huge market but full of little stands?. I live in Europe and I believe that Madrid has one of those, so I perfectly know what you mean with this.

>The feeling I had in the dream was very memorable, and one I've felt before. But I don't know if you'll understand if you've never moved into a stick-built standalone house that someone else just moved out of.
I haven´t moved out so far and the stick built houses are not all that common here. My smalltown does have a few ones though (we call it the American houses) but the rest are either housing blocks, brick or modular houses.

>Did you ever move in, and find their junk drawer still full? The first of two houses I lived in during my childhood, we were renting a house on the water, and there was a barn that had been used as a shop, a garage, and a storage area. It was still full of many, many metal items. Both small parts, and complete ... things.
despite not moving into this kind of houses, things are starting to make sense.

>I understood I wasn't supposed to mess with them, but the sheer wonder at their intricacy that spoke to some alien design and applicability to a purpose.
any child would be curious and mess around with them in a mindless manner during the first day. However...

>To say I was mesmerized would be a great exageration, but I was certainly filled with wonder. And I have felt it every time I moved -- looking for that, which was left behind, and trying to piece together the stories they tell.
not many kids would spend their time at figuring out the secrets behind them later on. I don´t remember many things from my childhood very well (especially the period of the 5 five years of my existence) but considering that you are attempting to find those answers to this day, maybe you are saying doesn´t sound all that exaggerated because many other kids would have forgotten about it the following day.

>Why does my subconscious include that feeling in a story about accepting a job from a muckety-muck who wants to have another factory running for his profit?
because of the brain connections with what you were mesmerized. If that feeling of wonder becomes recurrent and stuck inside your head, there is a great chance that you mind will connect that into something completely unrelated within your dreams. One can perfectly dream about MLP and then, arise out of nowhere a divorce that one witnessed about its cousins a few years ago and mix them as if those things were naturally related.

>>6125
oops, ignore the repetition of your post without the green in the first paragraph.

>>6117
>My wife always stutters, amazed, at the level of detail my dreams piece together to tell the story. At least, the few times I wrote it all down. But to be sure, some are simpler.
honestly, I would react like that as well. Even if I tried and managed to do that, maybe a couple of dreams of mine would be memorable and would get stuck in my head for reaching that level of detail. Nonetheless, I haven´t seen any cases (in my short experience in this universe) of people who get so obsessed yet so focused on this topic.


> I was snuggling with my girlfriend, who was a rabbit, but had done up her appearance (more grooming/makeup than any kind of shape-shifting) to look like a wolf. Rabbits aren't too common in my dreams, but the one dream I remember "getting lucky" was with the cheerleading werewolves (I was home-schooled, and that dream was before I would otherwise have been in highschool. Just teenage lust, and I guess I was a furry all the way down, so ... werewolves).
cheerleading...yeah, definitely an american thing to portray with those animals. It´s not all that different from your average Anon in Equestria stories or a furry wet dream though.

>>6118
for those who want to know about the Derpibooru link and upvote the image:

https://derpibooru.org/images/1726788

There it is.

Wow, this is environmentally dramatic (especially while reading about your mother´s death) and it came out last year by the way. Definitely fitting for the thread and/or a rainy scene in any movie for portraying a feeling of despair (for a neo noir film, it would work as well) .

>>6173
Awful. To lose someone, especially with how you described your life, must have been devastating. To have that hanging over you won't be good at all either, even if it's still a ways off.

Though the night doesn't have to die so soon...
Long Live The Night!

>>6117
>My wife always stutters, amazed, at the level of detail my dreams piece together to tell the story. At least, the few times I wrote it all down. But to be sure, some are simpler.
How hard is it to tell you dreams to outsiders? For me I sometimes have very detailed dreams but the exact details never make it in a way I can describe. I heard a family member once tell me that it requires you to have someone really close to you to be able to be truly transmit the full meaning but I've always thought it required more sharper terminology. Like, say, your wife, is there certain things that she only does understand, even if it is still less to you do to mere fact of being close or is it something that you have sharpened down. I've always wanted to explore my dreams but I never really gotten the time to think about it. Sorry for the ramble, but I am really curious.

>>6191
Another, older train dream. Roughly 6mo after getting married, now more than 11yr ago:
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It started in our home town, but spouse & I needed to get to Anchorage; there may have been further explanation in dream.
My impression is that only she 'needed' to go but I was fine about going with her. We went by train. She expressed concern about her fears but said she would trust the engineers.
I slept between here and Seattle but I saw why the trains worried her after that. In an effort to be more direct (note added: actually it was about being more "train like") the tracks made many curlicues, and tight turns, high above Puget Sound. Missing a lot of the ride but I rememberthe frequent gates where the protective fences would switch from one side of tracks, to the other.
To prevent ppl/animals from getting through there was an _extra_ segment of fence between the tracks. It didn't look like we could fit, especially at such high speed but we always made it.
But I felt the posts ruffle my sleeves on several occasions (note: this was inside a cabin. Also, there never was any other passengers on this train) We believed we needed to change trains at the 1st stop in AK
It was a small town but the terminal was insanity itself, crammed with bustling people all being helped by _very_ few clerks. When we finally boarded the train we thought we were supposed to be on I was able to see the rolling hills dotted with small, pre-fab houses.
There was a Norwegian couple on this train, & while I was gawking he explained the nowhere-town was named Kellion (note: Kerryn? Not sure now) I moved from the open seats to ride the rounded nose of the engine. The gates looked as implausible as ever [curr note: meaning, solid fence covering whole track. But it was understood by physics here, the train had 'permission' to pass through solid matter, but it still put up a lot of friction] but whether due to slower speed or my more forward position I barely felt their passage.
We saw a small band of horses off to one side, and a lot of lush vegetation All around but there was soon a horse in the way - a large, obese horse who didn't want to budge from the tracks. As the train slowly pushed it aside, the horse started shoving me against me with its rump. After it finally gave up and moved, we agreed it had been rude -- the shoving had been uncalled for.
I think we got to the end of the tracks and came back, for she & I found ourselves trying to find our way through the same terminal, having no better luck despite the lack of crowds. Presuming we took the wrong train we sought out a clerk but they were closed for the night. Spouse was going to walk home out of frustration but I pointed out that in rustic Alaska there would be a bed next to the desk.
Finding it, we tried to sleep but were repeatedly awakened by the snoring of the clerk nearby.
This is about the end of that dream but it was followed by the next, in the same town. I tried to find myway but this was a short train ride and I worried the whole time about the disused tracks.
The train never faltered, but it never went anywhere useful either. And back in town I was hassled by a few teenagers and eventually had to shoot one of them with a gun I took from another one to try and get my wallet back.
I woke up before I got my wallet, but teh street tought didn't seem to care about the (not-bleeding) small hole in his shoulder.

>>6191
And again, short ones are nonsense:

Food Network video game on friend's PS/3: video, swiss alps covered in ice, musicians doing 'duet-off';
Opera singer had a wind-up house to demonstrate the beauty of a frozen summer.
One of the other game players had an explanation about it. Humility? Accepting things the way they are, thus able to see the beauty.
Somehow this all tied back into ice cream, which was the chapter of video game we were on.

>>6191
>>6192
>>6193

That was cathartic, but it also intensified my desire to have writing utensil near my dream log.
I only have a few minutes, at best, before the real world crowds out the ephemeral.

>>6191
I can write two to three pages sometimes but not often. My brother I actually started a few years ago typing his on his phone and now he has hundreds with sometimes very intricate detail, though often complete nonsense even when long. You almost remind me of him. Especially the way you bring up random ones from years ago. However with the way you mention your character is something that is only vaguely familiar to me. Like I've had sometimes where my perspective hasn't been myself but not often, or in your case, near constant.

>>6194
>That was cathartic
How so? If ya don't mind me asking.

>I only have a few minutes, at best, before the real world crowds out the ephemeral.
What I do is write down a bunch of reminders that, ideally, will allow me to recall enough later to write at a more relaxed pace. This doesn't always work. My brother types them on his smartphone, something that has allowed him to record many in the middle of the night but always felt off to an more analog person such as myself.

>>6173
>the fact I can write down two, three pages worth of notes "that go on, and on" is something she can't relate to, and she can't follow all the twists and turns because of course, they don't make sense in the waking world.
I am raising my hand as well. As you have said before, trying to find some rational logic behind the events themselves wouldn´t work for an entire plot because there would be holes that our brains would detect and find nonsensical. Besides...

>That scene only once, but the train sequence reran three times, each one sliding a bit further towards a story of an insane person slaughtering a trainful of healthy people.
you don´t control them all that much to begin with. As soon as those same elements appear again, at anytime they could deviate from what you were expecting.

>>6193
>Food Network video game on friend's PS/3: video, swiss alps covered in ice, musicians doing 'duet-off';
>had a wind-up house to demonstrate the beauty of a frozen summer.
>One of the other game players had an explanation about it. Humility? Accepting things the way they are, thus able to see the beauty.
> all tied back into ice cream, which was the chapter of video game we were on.
Nonetheless, this one does have a concept that could pan out metaphorically and message-wise. The logical flaw is that the Swiss Alps aren´t the most fitting ones for that setting of a frozen summer (despite acknowledging that the height of those mountains is quite high, The Andes would fit for that period though)

Otherwise...you could perfectly play out with those concepts and mix them up for a deep subtle story.

>>6196
>random ones from years ago

That's actually how long it's been since I was wrote down in a dream log. I hadn't thought it was, but there you have it.

on catharsis, it's that I opened, read, considered my old dream log entries, and resolved to find a way to write them again.

>few years ago typing his on his phone and now [...]
>always felt off to an more analog person such as myself.

I do appreciate the _sensation_ of pencil lead against paper. But writing more than a sentence or two makes my hand cramp, and writing a whole paragraph or three might take an hour.
Last night I took my Kindle Fire (it doesn't get used for anything else -- too awkward a shape, to limited by its software) and was able to take notes on this morning's dream.
Writing it down alone, makes it stick in my mind longer. The sale-price cup that was just a paper label, and how my dog kept collapsing it by jumping up to drink the kool-aid is still clear, hours later. I should have already thought of it.
But not a "smart phone", no. I won't try using that small screen without a real keyboard, and while it could probably be done, I imagine the clickity-clickity of my mechanical keyboard (I have made several) would again, wake the spouse. But the tablet is a suitable compromise.

>>6203
> trying to find some rational logic behind the events themselves wouldn´t work for an entire plot

While I have written several scenes, and at least the one novel, based exclusively on a dream sequence, I don't write them down for novel-writing purposes. Just for the moment of contemplation, and comparison with other dreams near it.

I still think the roboticizing tale could work I would just need to be more awake, focused, on actually writing when I write my fan-fics.
Which I thought I was, and I did reach fifty thousand words. So maybe it was only a so-so premise, and that was its problem
(no, I just wasn't fully inspired to finesse it fully)

>>6173
these songs are giving me Autechre vibes (in an eerie way), especially the Fluttershy´s high-pitched voice and the beats of the second song.

>>6192
>My impression is that only she 'needed' to go but I was fine about going with her.
plot devices in dreams normally don´t make sense. You cann´t tell what´s going on but it keeps going.

>We went by train. She expressed concern about her fears but said she would trust the engineers.
>I slept between here and Seattle but I saw why the trains worried her after that. In an effort to be more direct (note added: actually it was about being more "train like") the tracks made many curlicues, and tight turns, high above Puget Sound. Missing a lot of the ride but I remember the frequent gates where the protective fences would switch from one side of tracks, to the other.To prevent ppl/animals from getting through there was an _extra_ segment of fence between the tracks.
a quite detailed description for those who try to expose their dreams.

>Also, there never was any other passengers on this train) We believed we needed to change trains at the 1st stop in AK
a little unsettling feeling because of this detail right here.

>The gates looked as implausible as ever [curr note: meaning, solid fence covering whole track. But it was understood by physics here, the train had 'permission' to pass through solid matter, but it still put up a lot of friction] but whether due to slower speed or my more forward position I barely felt their passage.
and here it reveals that this moment is when it turns into a plausible story instead of a fully realistic one.

>a large, obese horse who didn't want to budge from the tracks. As the train slowly pushed it aside, the horse started shoving me against me with its rump. After it finally gave up and moved, we agreed it had been rude -- the shoving had been uncalled for.
The Last Problem in MLP features more or less this scene intended for comedy. How much did it last before he moved out?

>Spouse was going to walk home out of frustration but I pointed out that in rustic Alaska there would be a bed next to the desk. Finding it, we tried to sleep but were repeatedly awakened by the snoring of the clerk nearby.
one wonders (beyond her understandable frustration) what she was looking for in the first place. Finding an explanation behind her motifs would really boost this drama.

>And back in town I was hassled by a few teenagers and eventually had to shoot one of them with a gun I took from another one to try and get my wallet back.
>the street tought didn't seem to care about the (not-bleeding) small hole in his shoulder.
out of this entire sequence, sadly I am not picturing the meaning behind this ending as much as I would like to perceive here.

>>6204
>But not a "smart phone", no. I won't try using that small screen without a real keyboard,
ironically, I have done that though in this same board several times. Though I have to agree with the real keyboard, it cannot compete against the control that you have by typing with a physical one. I have had a Samsung table for years (well technically, it´s my mother´s one) and it´s funny because I don´t find it all that warm in comparison to my mobile phone (though this comes off due to the privacy towards those devices)

>While I have written several scenes, and at least the one novel, based exclusively on a dream sequence, I don't write them down for novel-writing purposes.
well, that alone has its merits. Who wouldn´t like to picture an entire story just because of one single dream sequence? Personally, I can´t do that.

>Just for the moment of contemplation, and comparison with other dreams near it.
that mental exercise does help a lot at looking at yourself. Nonetheless, while it´s really helpful to focus on them for yourself, sharing and reporting them to other people also helps you to release some mental charge.

>I still think the roboticizing tale could work I would just need to be more awake, focused, on actually writing when I write my fan-fics.Which I thought I was, and I did reach fifty thousand words. So maybe it was only a so-so premise, and that was its problem (no, I just wasn't fully inspired to finesse it fully)
am I not noticing a pattern here when it comes to presenting your stories? I am saying this because while you are aware that you are not setting the bar for following rationalism, at times they are truly close to reach that point but it always seems that you tend to focus a lot on those moments that have a punch within your dreams but never being able to reach a fully fledged state. That and the writer´s block issue again.

Perhaps I am repeating myself like a robot but your dreams are a fountain of ideas and I wouldn´t frustrate myself all that much at taking them at face value and by simply compiling them and writing them down as much as you are capable to reach within your thoughts, then exploit them to your convenience. Adulterating them is tricking yourself but as you have said before...

>>6117
>Yeah, never do that. It's fun, it can lead to a decent 'fic, but dreams are their own thing.
either you use them simply for a contemplative view or you use them for a story, they don´t come as real or as a consistent thing to judge properly. Just random observations that need more context (which surprisingly enough follow a mostly cohesive path within its sequences like >>6192 does)

>>6196
>What I do is write down a bunch of reminders that, ideally, will allow me to recall enough later to write at a more relaxed pace.
a very good arranged strategy to follow actually.

>>6173
>AIP, which is the hepatic form of porphyria. Oldest female patient was 42, my mom made it to 38, and I was 15 at the time.
a metabolic disease...dammit. It all mostly relies on your treatment. It´s a huge drawback and losing your mother during your teens period...it´s no wonder that you would present psychological disruptions. Combine that with the fact that this disease could also imply anxiety, mental confusions, irritation...)...it makes sense that you struggle at finding everything in its right place.

A real pity.

>Guys tend to make it past their 70's all else being equal, as I understand it.
it would turn out to be a quite meaningful achievement to reach that age. A bit lower than the average but you could perfectly disguise it (hopefully) but who knows if you are asymptomatic or how much time you can avoid those neurotic attacks.

>Didn't want to leave that question just hanging.
thanks for the answer but...how do I reply to that?

I suppose that the best answer that I can offer to you is by using another form to express that so...take it or leave it but...

https://youtube.com/watch?v=_uqJSdXJi84 [Embed]

considering that you have been looking for relaxing/contemplative music that you are seeking even for your dreams/stories, this is what I can share out of my catalog (from an electronic artist by the way). It´s the best answer that I can come up with tonight. Words simply fall really short for replying answers of this kind...


Have a calm night and take care...

>>6210
https://youtube.com/watch?v=EJCbSW-_IE8 [Embed]

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>>6205
>out of this entire sequence, sadly I am not picturing the meaning
>behind this ending as much as I would like to perceive here.

I had it in my head overnight that you could combine the context with
>That scene only once, but the train sequence reran three times, each one sliding a bit further

Making the whole tale one of an unreliable narrator -- there was probably no gun, just as there were no zombies and at this point we need to question if there even was a teenager.

*BUUUUT* it would seem those were from _completely different days_ So instead I posit that this is an example of another "theme" in my dreams -- that I can't affect anyone else.
As an example I recall the dream where the woodland creatures came to me, because I wielded powerful magic (evocation, in DnD terms; not all that unlike what we see unicorn battles as in the show, excluding Trixies polite duel w/Twi)
Only when the thugs came to me, they mostly didn't feel my magic. I could topple small trees but they never fell on any thugs, and that same power against the oppressors just sorta tickled; I couldn't actually push them back.

The scene quoted was right as I woke up, so part of it is the 'labels' that aren't visible, such as the extended dream having 'permission' to travel through solid matter, get lost in consciousness.
My dreams are big on labels. Partly because there's no sounds. No visible subtitles either but that's how dialogue happens. Since "everything is me" The agreement between the scriptwriter and the actors is to relay speech by understanding, rather than actually speaking.

Which leads to an interesting discussion that maybe could go into /chat/ -- is there sound in your dreams?

>>6213
>Making the whole tale one of an unreliable narrator -- there was probably no gun, just as there were no zombies and at this point we need to question if there even was a teenager.
>this is an example of another "theme" in my dreams -- that I can't affect anyone else.
so, could all these elements be considered as illusions for the protagonist within the dream? As if dreams weren´t confusing enough...

>*BUUUUT* it would seem those were from _completely different days_
there would be more room for explaining that context (if this was told as a story and not just an exposition of your meditative exercise)

> I recall the dream where the woodland creatures came to me, because I wielded powerful magic
>Only when the thugs came to me, they mostly didn't feel my magic. I could topple small trees but they never fell on any thugs, and that same power against the oppressors just sorta tickled; I couldn't actually push them back.

>The scene quoted was right as I woke up, so part of it is the 'labels' that aren't visible, such as the extended dream having 'permission' to travel through solid matter, get lost in consciousness.
I see.

>Since "everything is me" The agreement between the scriptwriter and the actors is to relay speech by understanding, rather than actually speaking.
that´s certain because in the end, you are the one who decides in the end (just not consciously despite reflecting these sequences with more precision than other people would manage to describe with words)

>>5186
>Everyone stop and look at yourselves. You are lost in thought and blind to the world before you. You have only proven my point.
>Do you not see the state you are in? Do you not see what I have done? What you call vigorous debate I call one thing.
>CHAOS!
>Can't you see it? All of you are in an inherent state of chaos and you are all trying to put a broken bandaid of a philosophical and moral system upon it but can't have a unified front because it is being pulled in a thousand different directions.
> I reached out and talked to you and you all fell apart over the first hard question.

>>5187
>Be gone from me fools. Maybe one day you will speak in a unified voice, or maybe you will finally learn that CHAOS reigns supreme upon all!
>Maybe you will one day awaken and see that truth, until than leave me to my own devices.

definitely the stars aren´t going to help in this case.

Bridgefag, I am seriously wondering (again) if you had worked as a seer before you wrote this fanfic...

I have just seen four or so moons of jupiter, and I assume the oblong shape of saturn was by its rings.
And I've seen mountain ranges to the far side of the moon.
It is a clear sky in a place that can go months without a single star. And my binoculars were up to the task tonight.
This has been a good night.

With that, good night.

>>6304
no image? Try again?

>>6304
found the .webm so I'm going to try again.

>>6304
>I have just seen four or so moons of jupiter, and I assume the oblong shape of saturn was by its rings.
And I've seen mountain ranges to the far side of the moon.
My father once had a high powered telescope. Rarely used but it was amazing from what my childhood mind can remember. Been a long while since I've looked at the night sky with anything but my eyes. Sounds nice. Is astronomy an interest of yours or just something you do because of so few clear skies when you get the chance?


>good night.
And with that I too say... good night.

So I saw Neowise. Admittedly it wasn't the best view due to the sky glow of the city even in the dark country road that I was on. My father did manage to get it on some somewhat old digital camera after messing with the settings. I could barely see it with my naked eye, just a dim point of light with a cloud like fuzz that was barely visible. Binoculars also weren't the best either but enough for me to see it some.

Very haunting. The breeze picked up as we stood out in the middle of nowhere. There was clouds to the southeat and they, with the dark expanse of no lights in that direction just felt utterly eeri.

>>6354
>Very haunting. The breeze picked up as we stood out in the middle of nowhere. There was clouds to the southeat and they, with the dark expanse of no lights in that direction just felt utterly eeri.

reading this almost feels like I am reading a fictional story with an aura full of mystery and a sense of wonder

Considering that Bridgefag decided to revive the /chat/ thread yesterday, I am sharing a few images of Luna/Nightmare Moon for the nightly thread. so it begins its trend with posts that display the year 2021 on the time stamps

>>7440
then, it´s up to us to turn on the bright lights that come from the night sky...


...the ones that we call stars...

>>7434
>>7435
>>7436
>>7437
>>7438
>>7440
>>7441
Bring on the night!

>...the ones that we call stars..
And they aruge too much to protest otherwise...

>>7444
nice quads with the most fitting gif that could have happened for these digits. On top of that

>And they argue too much to protest otherwise...
a meta reference to a 2019 story >>5108...

Too much chaos implemented and too many things going on for a properly timed reply.

>>7456
Sweet/dramatic but without context is confusing (time travel? Nightmare illusion?)

>>7457
>I'll get her back, I'll get her soon, you can call Princess Nightmare Moon
ngl, I really think some of these lyrics are really well written. The singer is a little amateurish at parts but also does the dramatic parts pretty well.

> is the end believing this is the end of animations we should stop watching them.
the end certainly seems to not want us to watch the LunAlchie_TikTk for sure.

>>7459
>certainly seems to not want us to watch the LunAlchie_TikTk

So, different name in addition to different set of bits in their order.
This happened not long ago on /404/, that the BO had to re-encode my file for it to upload successfully.
.</shrug>.

>>7460
Wow, this is a "classic" post >>199 that I remember watching when I was first looking around here.

Don't feel much on it other than I think the voice of the mother surprisingly fits Celestia.

Pic related is my current state

Alright, time to show up over here because it seems that the nightmarish lack of activity is dominating the whole board...

First, there is the stage of keeping an eye on the target...

...then, the predator just waits and contemplates the environment, saving her energies for an upcoming event...

and finally, she comes in fiercely without any previous warning in order to predict her ultimate move.

She revolutionizes the whole situation and promises to the entire world that the nightmare that she is bringing over here will last forever.

What´s even worse about all of this: she is right unfortunately. The nightmare will never /end/...

But she has revived the /night/ thread anyway...

Bonus track: I am leaving a picture of Nightmare Rarity as well. Just as I told here >>7525, this material has been uploaded during this week so,while not exactly fresh for those who are looking for unpopular pictures on Deviantart, you might consider these pics as content that stimulates this year.

This is exactly what happens when DA artists don´t even bother on spreading their content on more websites. In the end, not all fans spend their free time at scrolling down through the whole Deviantart gallery of X character without any sort of efficient system that makes the search faster for any fan in general.

>>7620
>I remember this now so I may as well write my dream notes. From this week but I don't remember which day. 1/2:
Neat. I enjoy these, and I have a couple of small ones to add to the pile, though far less interesting.

>But it was clearly the inside of a land-bound building, and I wasn't "driving" I was standing on a ramp (or bar? Like on the sides of giant pickups) that had been added to the toyota camry's back end. Another bar at chest height provided the controls and a way to hang on to the car.
>My weight on the back caused the large car to sway ponderously up and down and the natural not-bumps of a country road were magnified by the odd steering arrangement.
This actually reminds me of my grandfather's dreams. He often had odd contraptions/cars with a twist he had to drive. For example, once he was being pursued in his dream and he was riding a cube that he controlled only by leaning in the desired direction.

>"I'm prepared to accept a string of words; this is <coffee place*>"
Did she actually say stuff like 'string of words'? Like do you mean she was being a bit robotic?

>"Drinking Voltaire's Tea in the Hinterlands of Chile.* Clearly, this movie is an experience we all share. The search for meaning has never been more complete than on the morning commute. Well sir I can hear you're breaking up so I will remind you we're <coffee place> and an offer to sell to you again can be constructed at ALL the expected parking lots."
This sounds philosophical.I don't know the personal experiences from the one who dream it, but I know the feeling of gibberish that is on the cusp of meaning something. Almost like your mind is trying to speak to you or something else, but that is a topic for another time.

>Vegie Tales,
Oh the nostalgia.

As for my dreams, not much this week, but these two sort of stuck out.

First dream was a few days ago. I had a lot of papers and they all kept falling into cat litter. I was trying to pick them up and more would keep falling. Cat litter was everywhere...

Yeah, not surreal, just stupidly odd.

My other dream was in a warped version of my family's house. Everyone was there, including people who shouldn't be there and people who were unfamiliar with me. It was large and I would go back and forth to varying tasks.

Nukes

There was a sense of nuclear war or some threat like that. It was in the background but it was a vivid feeling that I awoke with.

>>7624
> slightly disenfranchised liberal-arts major who just started her shift right after a film deconstruction class. She was too busy deconstructing everything to pay attention to details like, oh, I don't know ... that I wasn't even vaguely trying to pretend I was ordering?
That is a robotic of a different sort.

>Yes, but this wasn't that. It was just about the othercharacter's experiences not aligning with anyone outside her personal circle, and she had no idea that she was rambling nonsense in her attempt to sound ethereal.
Woah, I didn't take that context with first reading the dream. I was in dream nonsense mode. That is actually a interesting theme to have been dreaming about.

>Now, to be fair I've been accused of exactly that -- talking over people's heads to intimidate or impress them. I'm not, I just use big words naturally.
Weirdly, I have been has well, in spite of my moderate Texas lexicon often showing through some.

>I try to construct a single coherent thought BUT THERE'S SO MUCH MORE NEARBY and then I end up saying nothing because no one else shares my reference materials.
You have mentioned this before. I think I understand it better now...

Complex thoughts. Complex thoughts that are hard to express. Sometimes talking past and rambling like a mad man. Trying to order it. I would struggle to transmit meaning. I knew people like it and I was sort of...

It's hard to transmit things, sometimes I am trying to transmit a feeling as a word. People say I am good at it. People have even told me I am very logical and well spoken. Though often I have had a hint of something not clicking. Sometimes being wholly dissatisfied over what I was saying and how I was thinking it. This has declined though in all but in one area:

The feelings, not emotion. Abstract feelings of a place. It is hard to describe. Best I can say that certain places/times have a special context that is hard to transmit but is not just nostalgia.

Long story sort, I think sort of know it. I know I have seen it in others, growing up. and perhaps had some similar background through different circumstances for my isolation that wasn't as strong as yours and I saw others with that much more then me.

>>7625
Come to think of it... it seems like I have mentioned this once before already.

Was this the right time to bump this thread with a few pictures that keep its nightly theme?
Maybe yes or maybe not, but I think that there have been a few published pictures over the last few months that are worth sharing over here.

Dark times lie ahead around here.


The perfect ingredient for her to show up and get a reminder of her ultimate nightmarish objective...

>>7696
>>7697
>>7698
>>7856
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Maybe yes or maybe not, but I think that there have been a few published pictures over the last few months that are worth sharing over here.
It is a certain season ain't it?

>Maybe yes or maybe not, but I think that there have been a few published pictures over the last few months that are worth sharing over here.
Fav is... IDK, techical perspective it's >>7697 but honestly I am also drawn to >>7856 and the Twilight I may dig the best from a atmospheric standpoint.

>>7858
>It is a certain season ain't it?
well, winter is definitely coming. No one is going to doubt that.

>IDK, techical perspective it's >>7697 (you) but honestly I am also drawn to >>7856 and the Twilight I may dig the best from a atmospheric standpoint.

I would have a very hard time picking one over the other. Normally, I am on the train of "Why not both" and leave them for people to pick them freely. I suppose that this >>7856 one is the pic that has appeals to me the most right now but that doesn´t much. I have been drawn to Nightmare Moon content in general this week and have been uploading a few pics that were unregistered on the boorus (and said pics got recently featured on EQD, by the way)

>>7859
>winter is definitely coming. No one is going to doubt that.
Understandable that you thought that but I meant the one with Nightmare Night.

>Normally, I am on the train of "Why not both" and leave them for people to pick them freely.
And I did : ). Though in general, yeah, I am not too picky with what others like.

>been uploading a few pics that were unregistered on the boorus (and said pics got recently featured on EQD, by the way)
As I have said before, good to highlight some of these that have slipped through the cracks.

>>7877
>Understandable that you thought that but I meant the one with Nightmare Night.
Yeah, I knew that you had been referring to that event. I was looking for making a Game of Thrones reference with that opportunity. It hasn´t worked out all that well, apparently.

>And I did : )
and it was proven on the post itself so, you already had that position in the first place. I guess that this means that you get the double amount of fun.

>Though in general, yeah, I am not too picky with what others like.
I agree. As long as said tastes don´t affect IRL people, I have been growing a sense of indifference or tolerance with one condition: as long as said tastes don´t imply violence that affects third parties IRL. If said tastes break the fictional barrier with negative outcomes, then I am not all that indifferent.

>As I have said before, good to highlight some of these that have slipped through the cracks.
then, you are fortunate. Because the future essay that I have to write consists in picking up the leftovers. It also applies for Nightmare Moon and Nightmare Rarity (among other characters, including a couple of pics of Amore or Cadence).

But those characters aren´t the main material that has been standing out for these months when it comes to revitalizing underground material. That title goes to a very specific thread...

It looks like this thread might need another nightly PoLS for reminding ourselves that we are entering into a period in which the calendar makes nighttime progressively longer than ever.

We haven't entered all that deep yet but it's slowly gathering the perfect ingredients for turning Nightmare Moon's wet dream into a reality (for a few months though. She's better avoid any delusional temptation that this trend will last forever)

PoLS (from a user that has a capital letter and two digits)

Nightmare Moon, what is she? A mere evil entity that took advantage of Princess Luna or Luna's own darkness unchecked? Maybe a little of both. A shame that in Luna's emo self punishment and stoicism we didn't get see her explored more as I can think of different angles were Nightmare Moon could be interesting. Oh, imagine if they had introduced Kirins earlier..

>>7959
A certain darkness has come indeed and a update of the pin message of the site is in need.

PoLS, from the anon who has a obsession with crossing bridges.

>>7973
What happens to Nightmare Moon? We don't have a clue about the alternate one. As for Luna, we have to keep in mind that she can use her Canterlot voice at anytime and she admitted to find joy with it >>2219. She fully embraces her dark past and creates a character called Starry Night Terror with a new armour.

We might not see the current Luna with the Nightmare Moon look. However,I think that Luna hasn't been absorbed by the darkness because her NMM look represents her dark side. Or more like her dark emo side,her childish side of taking over Equestria that reveals her inner bitterness and revenge towards her sister.

Luna could actually adapt the Nightmare Moon form but what truly changed her was the realization that she had to cooperate with her sister and realize how devastating her actions can become for considering such plans. It could be summed up with this sentence: she just grew up and matured >>2630, >>3663. She realized how careful she must be with her duties,not to mention that she would make her sister happier by standing alongside her instead of just fighting all the time.

The Nightmare Knights arc simply serves as a proof of her maturity. She doesn't reject who she has been over time but rather,she acknowledges what she has done throughout her whole life. Such acceptance of her whole life and her track record would make her imperishable.

She views the whole picture of morality and her will is founded according to such experiences on both sides (aesthetically and morally). She reflects maturity that would be proper of Celestia…but she takes it on a whole new level because her Nightmare Moon past was more infamous among Equestrians and thus,she has carried that psychological weight on her shoulders since her reformation in season 1.

Luna,no matter how she looked,holds her actual behaviour because of her special context and she,surpassing the duality of being a hero or a villain,is depicted as a grown up character that acknowledges what is right to do. Instead of delivering a NMM look,her armour replaces said infamous appearance (even though the whole squad was roleplaying with said costumes)

I needed to explain how to portray this with a more contextualized perspective.

Happy Nightmare Night everypony. It seems I was able to make it feel a little more festive after all, albeit somewhat lackluster.

>>7979
>Originally, they were found in that state and if you take into account Nightmare Knights and the previous arc
When counting that as canon, makes Twilight Sparkle and Cadence very interesting. Do/should they have such a state as well, though such as a tangent.

>Tons of gray arise here but I guess that what prevented them from being evil comes from their well-settled values from Starwsirl (putting his faith on them) and the amount of responsibility that they hold, how committed they are with their duties.
If one takes power being driven by emotion, might a comparison to the lingering temptation of the darkside of the force be made. I remember for awhile FiM trying to make a point of magic being based directly on how a pony feels at that moment (or something like that, been awhile since watching season 6 or season 7).

>>7973
> and as NMM was proven to be too weak
I have seen the point made with the Season 5 alternative timelines that one might take that Nightmare Moon's was the best of them and she seemed to have dealt with all other threats and had stability, as opposed to the various others. Not a hard canon context but something that is interesting possible counterpoint to this:
>it doesn´t mean that she can beat her sister
Though that does risk going on a tangent as well.

>>7974
>Luna,no matter how she looked,holds her actual behaviour because of her special context and she,surpassing the duality of being a hero or a villain,is depicted as a grown up character that acknowledges what is right to do. Instead of delivering a NMM look,her armour replaces said infamous appearance (even though the whole squad was roleplaying with said costumes)
I think, with her embrace of Nightmare Moon as a persona, is a interesting one. It does reflect maturity but when paired with Do Princesses Dream of Magic Sheep I wounder if there is a slight darkness that does exist with this. I like where you went with this though... though I haven't gotten to reply to my liking, haven't brought up her transformation... but that would risk a tagent

>>7979
I think they would find it weird or use it to reinforce feelings of their own supremacy.

First one, obvious because of the reasons you stated but also because how it against the ponies natural reaction/stereotype. Seeing ponies fold and freakout at the face of danger is so often the norm that the embrace of this holiday might really confuse them.

As for the second point: imitation is the greatest form of flattery and I could see the changelings running with how being able to change is a desirable trait that THEY have and others wish to have.

I have a lot of other stuff to get to here, but till then HAPPY NIGHTMARE NIGHT!

Enraptured in the night. Luna Nightmare Moon looked onward. Though she was always happy she never was and though she was in complete control she was but a pawn to darker games being played in the shadows. For her beloved hated sister was no longer with her and she was.

>>8013
>Browsing nomrally
>Sees this post
>Oh, yeah, this is tonight!
>Sees clearing but clouds around
>Panic
Oh, CB, I owe ya one. This picture is entirely you. Yeah, blurry but I am quite happy that it got the details of the moon and it is one of the best pictures I have ever taken of it.

Though being ill wasn't fun, the fact that I forgot to take off the Nightmare Moon theme for this moment was.

>>8014
> This picture is entirely
I meant to say: "This picture is entirely on you" as me seeing this picture would not have happened without you posting about it.

Speaking of Nightmare Moon. This is such a odd toy/figure/collectable or whatever.
https://www.mlpmerch.com/2021/08/mighty-jaxx-reveals-xxray-plus-nightmare-moon.html
>This gorgeous figure of Nightmare Moon stands 8.5 inches (22 centimeters) tall. The details look really nice and her mane is translucent and imbued with glitter. She will be $159 USD. She will be up for pre-order in three days according to the listing, but shipping will start in January 2022. Have more images and the description below.

I find it funny as well. G4 merch still being made in 2022 and some of it certainly is on the odd side.

>>8014
totally saving that.

>>8018
> certainly is on the odd side
nifty. I like weird, too.

>>8021
And feel free to reuse it.Not that a random image posted to a chan board has any expectation of strict copyright enforcement.

> I like weird, too.
And apparently others. As for me, I don't hate it but am slightly confused with it's appeal.

You know, been having a lot of dreams lately, even ponies, though I have written down it I never seem to remember many details of the pony/pony related appearances in said dreams. Just vague memories of Twilight Sparkle something and even posting something here once.