So here it is, the little surprise coming from me.
I have been recollecting the old images from the early days and reunite all the pictures I have selected, upvoting them and adding them into the favorites list.
In this thread, I want to transfer all the material we could post from her to other threads (whether they are intended for fics, edits or whatever) but at least, have like an open room dedicated to her.

I didn´t want to edit them all or have a cheap excuse to post them, so I have finally come up with the idea to post them with all their original glory.

Despite having the desire to post the old images from the "golden era", don´t get fooled.
The best era from Celestia (besides her creation) started in 2017 with season 7, having two episodes with important roles and this year with Horse Play. We are not late to appreciate her, like at all.

Hence I posted in the OP that she is like a phoenix, she had her life span blurred and somewhat off the map in 2015/16 but she is here again. The pictures from these days also bring the best out of her.

Pure energy, majestic and as radiant as she raised the sun for the first time in Equestria.

Even when you think that everything was made or created back then, pictures like these got revived this year, so the forgotten gems have to be remembered as well. This picture found the absolute glory when it got featured on Derpi,all because it was lost between the archives transferred from Ponibooru.

From 2011 but seeing the light today in order to praise it all together.

Miracles may not exist but for sure,little details bring something magical along the way and in the end, they pay off gracefully.

And so, I am finishing my first posts dedicated to her.
I believe that she represents the perfect balance that whenever you post her, it´s never too late to stop a bit and admire her presence.

We all had fears about her at first, we thought she would bring all the answers of Equestria and the alicorn race, we believed the writers had fears to write about her and ruin her legacy, we thought she had all the power...

We had our own headcanons and we took our speculations too seriously about her eternity but in the end, she is just another figure, a very lovable worth to praise and despite her title, she is there like any other pony despite her age.

Whatever she delivers, staying there for any situation is just good enough and that´s what matters.

Another letter out of millions goes to you Celly...

>>1857
While I think my views on Celestia are a bit different the yours (not wholly negative, though it would take too long to explain right now) . I still love this thread. It's like the opposite if our bat thread. Praise the /sun/!

>>1862
>I think my views on Celestia are a bit different the yours (not wholly negative, though it would take too long to explain right now)
don´t worry. In fact, I will say a moral from the show (that has recently aired) which comes handy: the world would be really boring if everyone agreed with me.

Of course everything I say is debatable, just that I am bit biased for saying that not everything has had its place in the past because sometimes if the present doesn´t value it, then why is it there?

>I still love this thread. It's like the opposite if our bat thread. Praise the /sun/!

I knew that you would like it because she is the princess that caught me by surprise saying hi to a random anon (me) by the 23rd of December >>272. And of course, she helped me to reach that first innocent objective for fun.

I don´t know why but seeing those long term posts bring me a little smile.

This is also the first thread that I open with a more optimistic view instead of boosting drama or grey opinions. It is indeed a contrast to the bat thread, even though I haven´t thought about that. Bats can also bring fun, it´s just easier to fit darkness with their material.


The first princess that replied and gave a smile...

Praise her.

>>1863
Luna is not wrong here. Her eyes see a cutie but also those eyes who are staring at her, reflect her beauty as well.

>>1865
Sleep well, little charming royal sisters.

>>1872
>I don´t know why but seeing those long term posts bring me a little smile.
Me too.

>This is also the first thread that I open with a more optimistic view instead of boosting drama or grey opinions. It is indeed a contrast to the bat thread, even though I haven´t thought about that. Bats can also bring fun, it´s just easier to fit darkness with their material.
Darkness can be fun in itself, but this has its own charm. Though I don't think you ever boosted drama. I certainly see a "world is gray bording on black" feel with your earlier post sometimes, but not everything. I will say that since season 8 this place has felt less, how do I put it?, sober in mood and more overtly happy.

>I knew that you would like it because she is the princess that caught me by surprise saying hi to a random anon (me) by the 23rd of December >>272. And of course, she helped me to reach that first innocent objective for fun.
Haunting. It does almost seem like a different era back then, in spite how small of a thing it is. I came just a little bit later, post y'all reaching the 3oo mark >>322. I remember I was just doing my normal thing on checking out various random chans and other sites, when I happened to see the /pone/ board in the board list. I cannot help but have a little smile at the thought that no one there would've thought we'd get this far from the first humble goal here. Or that this would have OC and its own memes to an extent. So I look at it all quite fondly.

>>1877
>The first princess that replied and gave a smile...
>Praise her.

I should meme her more honor of that, for she being the sun princess, was the initial spark for this place. Praise the sun indeed!

>>1877
I'm still working on my OC bomb, though I'm considering just spitting it into smaller batches and posting it when it gets ready. In anycase, providing that nothing else weird happens this week (no ER trips, pitbull attacks, colds, etc). I should have something significant up in the next 3 or 4 days.

This pic is interesting. There a huge disparity in the styles of the pony, magic around her horn, and the golden aura in the background. I first thought this pic was just an unskilled artist, but the celestia doesn't look half bad if he was going for a cartoony style and the magic symbol around the horn actually looks pretty nice, if he had stuck to one style I think it would look better.

Be watchful of blue maned celestia's. Don't bother editing any or anythinng like that because I'm not sure if I ever get around to it but if you ever find some while your normally browsing post or giv me link, as I have a small project in mind tat I may do sometimes.

proof of life shitpost so it means that I have actually checked your latest posts

replying inside an hotel from Portugalwith an image that I have kept in my phone's gallery. Tomorrow,I am arriving home and hopefully alright. I will see if I feel like using the PC at night.

Nice trips >>1888 by the way. Checked.

>>1890
No pressure to post. Just post when you feel like it. I have to babysit my grandfather most weekends I don't alwayys feel up to posting when I get back, and that's just local Don't worry about replying to everything and just relax. I hope you had fun whatever it was that you where up to. I have been keeping the bridges nice and crossed enough.

>>1902
>Just post when you feel like it.
Yeah, that´s what I have been doing most of the times. Sometimes it is my body that feels giving some kind of life or sign for relief. I effortlessly made that post in a minute with my phone, like anyone would post a tweet (without the favorite or retweet options).

>I have to babysit my grandfather most weekends I don't alwayys feel up to posting when I get back, and that's just local.
wow, that sure tires you a lot in a weekly routine. It is your family in the end, so one has to deal with it in a personal way. Circumstances happen, there will be days when we can post a lot and reply to everything and other periods when someone does not feel like doing anything because of in real life stuff. We are people in the end.
>Don't worry about replying to everything and just relax. I hope you had fun whatever it was that you where up to.
Do you know what´s funny? I have been relaxed just when I got back home. The travel was intense, rushed and definitely a great mix of emotions in such a short time of 3 days. It has been an experience. To sum it up a bit, the 1st day went awful at first, it recovered slightly through the afternoon and the hotel, the 2nd day, we had a couple of problems but it went on wheels after midday and the 3rd day, coming back home, we stopped and visited an historical city of my country that my parents hadn´t visited for 30 years. We stayed there for a few hours and got back home in the late afternoon. I had slept yesterday like 4 hours there and I couldn´t reply because I slept comfortably in my room and way earlier than I was used to. An experience that it´s hard to describe and made me admire how great my country is in comparison to my neighbors.

>I have been keeping the bridges nice and crossed enough.
I have seen your activity and I cannot believe you actually updated your Cadence fic. I am replying properly to what you have posted but the bridges have reached the trips and passed the 1900 number...

we are reaching the new millennia pretty soon.

>>1882
>I should meme her more honor of that, for she being the sun princess, was the initial spark for this place.
It was an old meme that actually Cadence started, you just posted the edited version of Hi Anon. I was shitposting seaponies (and I still do quite often) and out of nowhere, I received that reply on 23rd of December. Quite a surprise to start a new era.

I am one of those anons that loves to celebrate the things by themselves even if they are jokes or mindless incidents. Sometimes the cult around them has more artistic material than the act itself. Bat ponies were like that initially in /mlp/.
I just made this thread because you admitted she was one of your favorites and I admire her beauty and patience. Her chill personality and capability to look nice from the outside, actually transmitting those vibes to anyone are really noteworthy aspects to consider.

>>1883
>I'm considering just spitting it into smaller batches and posting it when it gets ready.
Well, that strategy could go really well considering that it increases the activity. You could also compile everything in one stroke so it´s enjoyable without any posts in the middle when you finish what you wanted to do.

Like Trixie would say: "It´s a working title"

>In anycase, providing that nothing else weird happens this week (no ER trips, pitbull attacks, colds, etc). I should have something significant up in the next 3 or 4 days
that sounds fucked up and unfortunate. I can guess how the situations went in those events. Thankfully, you have shown it way before than you expected initially so it seems that situation is not going that bad.

Though if I can add some commentaries on those, the ER trips are something serious and emergencies nobody can joke about that. Who knows if it could be your last visit and your grandfather doesn´t see you again in his hardest moments. Nobody knows and they don´t usually offer good news...
About the pitbulls, I simply don´t understand those people who buy them. If they went wild, some owners could easily get beaten by them in strength and receive serious bruises. Whenever I see those people with high dogs that measure half of their human bodies (some dogs look like ponies sometimes), I could easily make a reactionary meme face if I had to judge them. I stay passive but sweet mother of Celestia, help me to understand that trend.

About the colds, I don´t know if it´s already Autumn or if temperatures aren´t as high as I would believe. Covering your neck properly and taking cold showers helped me to not have a single one of them. I am touching wood so I don´t get any during this year.
Another advice is waiting in the door for 6 or 7 seconds whenever you are leaving any building, so the body gets adapted to the ambient and the change of temperature feels less extreme. It´s the same pattern as the myth about the swimming pools. It is not because of eating but that radical change of warmth.

It is common sense anyway but some people run from one place to another quickly and that lack of tolerance could pay off with that.

>>1881
>I certainly see a "world is gray bording on black" feel with your earlier post sometimes, but not everything. I will say that since season 8 this place has felt less, how do I put it?, sober in mood and more overtly happy.

Like everything, contrast has to exist. Season 8 stopped me from thinking about how to worry about fan content and more about the direction of the franchise, it has something going on. I didn´t know what direction to take either.

The thoughtful parts are still there because I am trying to put more effort here than easy shitposts that I would make in /mlp/ or even nextchan. It´s summer as well, so I have been getting out of my house with more frequency, the ambiences shines for more time and I have not much time to think because the high temperatures keep me from thinking anything during my "dead" time. Also, studies have kept me busy. Just wait until September or October and you will notice a different mood.

It´s overtly happier because I have a clearer vision on how I should take the next steps. Keep in mind that our actions define a lot more than you would expect. Little gimmicks offer different and along the way, I discover the actual charm. I have rediscovered darkness with that bat pony thread, with you: political stuff and random real life topics, with season 8: divorce and the education system and with this board: the edits, the princesses, chan culture and greens that in theory, don´t come from dedicated writefags; among other things.

I have to check myself with frequency so I can point out what should be working despite not having restrictions at all. It´s funny, I have a lot restrictions yet I am planning some patterns to define a route everybody could follow. Copying /mlp/ or 8chan completely would turn out to be a mistake so I have to find something outside the usual traditions or twist them a bit.

>Haunting. It does almost seem like a different era back then, in spite how small of a thing it is.
It is and it frighten me because we look like very different people with those posts.

>I came just a little bit later, post y'all reaching the 3oo mark >>322. I remember I was just doing my normal thing on checking out various random chans and other sites, when I happened to see the /pone/ board in the board list.
I just noticed endchan because someone on /mlp/ shilled the alternatives(8chan and endchan). I knew this place existed during April 2017 and it had like 30 posts or so, I wasn´t missing much. I posted seaponies because there was not a thread dedicated to them in /mlp/ (and I don´t like opening threads, I have a very bad experience with that) so I had the liberty to post whatever and voila, I had the objective to boost this board to the first page with 300 posts so it would get noticed in this site. Oh boy, that escalated quickly.

>I cannot help but have a little smile at the thought that no one there would've thought we'd get this far from the first humble goal here. Or that this would have OC and its own memes to an extent. So I look at it all quite fondly.
And you thought you weren´t a valuable fan back then...trust me, I would say those words as well.

>>1885
>I first thought this pic was just an unskilled artist, but the celestia doesn't look half bad if he was going for a cartoony style and the magic symbol around the horn actually looks pretty nice, if he had stuck to one style I think it would look better.
It looks somewhat unskilled because that Celestia looks like a cartoonish style (if we consider the FiM her realistic version). Her hair is really defined and the connection between her hair and the background goes smoothly and the smoke covers her softly.

I agree with your comment. While not unskilled, I personally like that aura style instead of the cutesy body´s character.

>>1886
>Don't bother editing any or anythinng like that because I'm not sure if I ever get around to it but if you ever find some while your normally browsing post or giv me link, as I have a small project in mind tat I may do sometimes.

if you are planning to get into it in the way I am implying your post, it could bring your style as well. Giving it a try could be refreshing....

Don´t dismiss anything if think you have something in your head floating around.

As for now, that picture deserves its upvotes for very good reasons. What a beautiful pony.

>>1903
>wow, that sure tires you a lot in a weekly routine. It is your family in the end, so one has to deal with it in a personal way.

Yeah it can be. Even little difficult it isn't the worst thing in the world. Besides, it's only a repayment to how they help me growing up, even though admittedly it has slowed down some of my plans.

>Do you know what´s funny? I have been relaxed just when I got back home. The travel was intense, rushed and definitely a great mix of emotions in such a short time of 3 days. It has been an experience.
I am often only relaxed at home, even a good vacation, is a drain on me. I think I get it.

> An experience that it´s hard to describe and made me admire how great my country is in comparison to my neighbors.
I even have this feel when visiting neighbor states IN the USA though it's not super extreme. Though I am no expert on the region, my bet is that all your neighbors are either poorer or less laid back or both . Not an insult to them, but I think I get the gist of the feeling.

>I have seen your activity and I cannot believe you actually updated your Cadence fic. I am replying properly to what you have posted but the bridges have reached the trips and passed the 1900 number...

What better way to break the final century than an anime comeback?

>>1905
>Well, that strategy could go really well considering that it increases the activity. You could also compile everything in one stroke so it´s enjoyable without any posts in the middle when you finish what you wanted to do.

It really depends. I often don't have a lot of time to work on tings at the moment do to me trying to get things straighted out at the personal front after the chaotic year. So that makes me lean towards a steady when I can when I feel like it. But I feel like I am a bit more in control at the moment, like I will have time pretty soon to set aside and finish one in a single go. There is some possible IRL stuff comming up still so I"ll see.

>Though if I can add some commentaries on those, the ER trips are something serious and emergencies nobody can joke about that. Who knows if it could be your last visit and your grandfather doesn´t see you again in his hardest moments.
Agreed, though the ER trip was actually my father who turned out to have non super serious but still painful back problems You never know, and I have had several close calls in the past few years with a few people.

>About the pitbulls, I simply don´t understand those people who buy them. If they went wild, some owners could easily get beaten by them in strength and receive serious bruises.
It wasn't too bad, the cat survived the attack alright somehow . Large dogs I can understand in some situations guard dogs, but a lot of people just seem to buy them and manage them like any other dog. I try not to judge too harshly because I don't know any statics on pitbull attacks and other more aggressive breeds and I'm not sure how much of it is a perceptions based on aggression (as in the are somewhat more aggressive and scarier looking but for all I know mutts may have a similar attack rate). But I agree from a personal standpoint tat for sure, just seems a bit crazy/stupid.

>Whenever I see those people with high dogs that measure half of their human bodies (some dogs look like ponies sometimes), I could easily make a reactionary meme face if I had to judge them. I stay passive but sweet mother of Celestia, help me to understand that trend.
This, sans sheepdogs.

>Another advice is waiting in the door for 6 or 7 seconds whenever you are leaving any building, so the body gets adapted to the ambient and the change of temperature feels less extreme. It´s the same pattern as the myth about the swimming pools. It is not because of eating but that radical change of warmth.
Even though it's still summer here I will remember that advice when winter hits.

>>1906
>Like everything, contrast has to exist. Season 8 stopped me from thinking about how to worry about fan content and more about the direction of the franchise, it has something going on. I didn´t know what direction to take either.
I am both hopeful and a little cornered at the same time.

>It´s overtly happier because I have a clearer vision on how I should take the next steps. Keep in mind that our actions define a lot more than you would expect.
Agreed. Now it the /end/ doesn't feel like some bizarre experiment or a waste of time. More stable, less uncertainty, though such foundation doesn't mean darkness is gone a thematic around here...

> Just wait until September or October and you will notice a different mood.
October is a month where I go into a little melancholy mixed with self reflective observation and a bit of a dark ambient do to nightmare night, so yeah, you may see some in me as well.

>I have to check myself with frequency so I can point out what should be working despite not having restrictions at all. It´s funny, I have a lot restrictions yet I am planning some patterns to define a route everybody could follow. Copying /mlp/ or 8chan completely would turn out to be a mistake so I have to find something outside the usual traditions or twist them a bit.
Agree on not copying 8/pone or /mlp/. This place is already going its own askew direction and it already has spawned interesting concepts.

>It is and it frighten me because we look like very different people with those posts.
It really does. I know that I was reserved because i usually am a lurker more than an active participant in things--boy that is a difference right there.

> so I had the liberty to post whatever and voila, I had the objective to boost this board to the first page with 300 posts so it would get noticed in this site. Oh boy, that escalated quickly.
>And you thought you weren´t a valuable fan back then...trust me, I would say those words as well.
I tip my hat to you as well anon. When you continued to post greens it caused me to through my hat in the ring as well.

>>1907
>It looks somewhat unskilled because that Celestia looks like a cartoonish style
I think if he tried for a cartoony crayon style like how the Celestia looks it could've have worked out. Though your probably right in this being from a lack of skill. the aura though just seems of a higher quality then it should be for that picture.

>It was an old meme that actually Cadence started, you just posted the edited version of Hi Anon.
I remember it being Cadence's meme, I was just talking about Celestia in general.

>I am one of those anons that loves to celebrate the things by themselves even if they are jokes or mindless incidents.
Me too. I love Dolores Umbridge for that very reason. There is more substance to those things the a lot of the forceful non sequiturs that are often beaten to death n the mainstream (Dee's Nuts, Corn corn corn bla bla you get the picture). Though admittedly those can get the same treatment if they do get noticed enough.

>>1908
>Don´t dismiss anything if think you have something in your head floating around.
i won't. I have a lot of other projects that would be easier to complete though on the backburner so it's extremely low priority at the moment, but I hope to get around to it at some point.

>>1914
>it's only a repayment to how they help me growing up, even though admittedly it has slowed down some of my plans.
oh well, I thought it was because of compromise. Then, that´s a nice gesture from your part.

>even a good vacation, is a drain on me. I think I get it.
it is indeed a drain but when you have to indicate the driver where to go and how to take the roads constantly, advising like a rally copilot, it gets even more tiring. Now, we have recovered ourselves during these last 2 or 3 days, so we are back on track.

>I am no expert on the region, my bet is that all your neighbors are either poorer or less laid back or both . Not an insult to them, but I think I get the gist of the feeling.
you have nailed the first aspect, they are indeed poorer save the Lisbon zone. Less laid back...it depends, more like they are more money-grabber and have a very flawed toll system. Comparing it to Spain is cheating because my country has taken a lot of care for decades in that aspect (which surprises me because the coast was the only touristic zone and over time, they have managed to make other cities attractive for varied reasons including the capitol city).
So yeah, I have that gist because it´s not as tourist friendly in the north zone as we expected (Aveiro is an exception though, it´s like the Portuguese Venice, that place is nice).

>What better way to break the final century than an anime comeback?
with the top 10 anime sequels. That would break the whole scheme.

>>1915
>I often don't have a lot of time to work on tings at the moment do to me trying to get things straighted out at the personal front after the chaotic year.
>I will have time pretty soon to set aside and finish one in a single go. There is some possible IRL stuff comming up still so I"ll see.
I meant that you could copy paste the work for a different thread and repost the whole story at once. I didn´t mean creating the story in one night because even me, have had to dedicate a few hours or even days to find the right concept.
It´s always up to what you feel like. I said that because the story might lose some steam when it´s in separated posts. Or make a pastebin if the thing gets too long.

>my father who turned out to have non super serious but still painful back problems
well fuck, I would have preferred to hear the version I imagined.
>Large dogs I can understand in some situations guard dogs
agreed and damn they are effective.

>a lot of people just seem to buy them and manage them like any other dog.
or even humans (treating them as children)
>I try not to judge too harshly because I don't know any statics on pitbull attacks and other more aggressive breeds and I'm not sure how much of it is a perceptions based on aggression
me neither
>But I agree from a personal standpoint tat for sure, just seems a bit crazy/stupid.
you tell me. I could try to understand it and investigate but I feel lazy about checking that. I cannot jump that much into conclusions but visually, it´s paradoxical to say the least.

>sans sheepdogs.
used with an useful purpose. An exception indeed.

>I will remember that advice when winter hits.
that advice originally came from my teacher (who is 73) and he takes a lot of care for colds. I am not the best sample to prove that statement but I do notice that the body doesn´t feel the cold when you are outside for a while, so I guess the adaptation process is the key to prevent them.

>>1918
>I have a lot of other projects that would be easier to complete though on the backburner so it's extremely low priority at the moment
yeah, it mostly varies depending on your mood. I haven´t written anything for ages (yeah,it was in June) and for sure, I will feel a rush of emotions and write in unexpected moments.
I am not saying the ideas but I have been considering some new concepts but haven´t entered into them because I care more about carrying on the usual posts and the season than that.

>>1917
>if he tried for a cartoony crayon style like how the Celestia looks it could've have worked out.
yeah, there are other ways to draw (and even recolor) Celestia like in this pic >>1864. I guess I am too used to appreciating the usual
model or artstyle. This one is better though. >>1915. I think it´s the huge contrast that makes it look awkward to some extent.

>I was just talking about Celestia in general.
yeah, she sparked the interest indeed. A shame we don´t have the original images there but you actually posted more images about her during that 300 post achievement.

>There is more substance to those things the a lot of the forceful non sequiturs that are often beaten to death n the mainstream (Dee's Nuts, Corn corn corn bla bla you get the picture)
I have not heard about them. I have just checked KYM for the first one and it had a big peak a couple of months in 2015 but I guess it was like summer´s song. Once the period is over, it fades into obscurity. A friend of mine described that the good old memes stay because they are not forced at all, those that are forced have to find something beyond the initial laughs.
I do know a couple of underground memes that have been forgotten for a while for good reason. First, it´s the infamous bananaposting in /b/ during 2014-15, I don´t know if they still do that but damn, they went all in for it. Another one is Milhouse, the perfect example of a forced meme. Milhouse himself is not a meme because he keeps asking for it to become but Milhouse not being a meme is a meme...for ironic reasons.

>Though admittedly those can get the same treatment if they do get noticed enough.
it depends on the purpose behind use them. However, if they are already consumed and have fallen out of any sort of fun, then they stay in the same fate any temporal meme does.

>I love Dolores Umbridge for that very reason.
it was an accidental wordfilter, so the root of it doesn´t come from a forced situation. In fact, I have checked that if one does spell Star Light, it doesn´t trigger the filter in case for actual discussion. Some users in /mlp/ have associated the actual character of Harry Potter to her though to my surprise.

and I save the meta post for the last

>>1916
>I am both hopeful and a little cornered at the same time.
I haven´t posted about the season but I am feeling hopeful after checking the actual content. I have actually liked The End In Friend way more than I could have imagined and we are supposedly in the filler season because of the forced school from Hasbro´s marketing department. So, it seems that as long as they write the characters properly, it will flow by itself. Not to mention that the books and comics (Whitley please don´t fuck it up) quality complement this franchise with a good health. So,let´s hope this gen ends well.

>The /end/ doesn't feel like some bizarre experiment or a waste of time. More stable, less uncertainty, though such foundation doesn't mean darkness is gone a thematic around here...
it won´t be the last time we will be talking about darkness.
Anyway, that period felt actually uncertain because we were like: do we stay? what are we doing now? We have reached the barrier,the year has ended and the party is over....
It´s certainly more stable and the first thread is reaching the 500 pots. There is still a lot of experimentation left but the initial ideas or schemes have been presented so we do have more references. I am still trying to figure out what should come next.

>I go into a little melancholy mixed with self reflective observation and a bit of a dark ambient do to nightmare night, so yeah, you may see some in me as well.
dark insightful content incoming

>This place is already going its own askew direction and it already has spawned interesting concepts.
the bat pony Cadence concept is actually yours in fact.
This thread is not new at all for /mlp/ standards but the purpose behind it is really different here.
I have to still define my personal project, define completely the concepts for the edits in general (though I have actually applied the shoegaze/wall of distortion concept to the visual art, that should turn out into grey zones of thought),write some greens (including something for this thread) and find more sources to get inspiration, especially from music(the title of this thread comes from a song in fact).

So, there are plenty of things to do. I just don´t hold any promise in the near future but I can say that this is far from finished.

>I was reserved because i usually am a lurker more than an active participant in things--boy that is a difference right there.
me too, reserved because of my own safety, especially in terms of personal stuff. Then you realize that ponies actually bring a sense of community despite the far away people, the interest by itself brings comfort to those who are into it. Magic? I don´t know but that familiarity sure helps and encourages a lot.
When you have confidence in talking with 3rd people that you don´t know and actually know how to deal with all the situations, that confidence ends most of your fears in real life and those skills actually serve for something else beyond chan interactions. I have noticed that I no longer fear that much unknown people as long as I know how to put some restrictions to myself and know what I should talk about first and then,check how it goes.

Lurking is still useful though. A retirement at time is a victory.

>When you continued to post greens it caused me to through my hat in the ring as well.
I am glad to have inspired others for what I do (when I wasn´t an avid writefag back then). I have been learning those skills and compiling the traditional writing and testing it on the chan style. I see that from the Radiance fic, I had made you jump into it and the last two definitely were the cherry on the cake(and you said you couldn´t write serious things....and I am waiting for Candy).
I, as perfectionist as I am, have to prove myself again sooner or later. One cannot live from the past eternally, I have to find something else.

>>1923
>I haven´t posted about the season but I am feeling hopeful after checking the actual content. I have actually liked The End In Friend way more than I could have imagined and we are supposedly in the filler season because of the forced school from Hasbro´s marketing department
Still trying to get full caught up. When I do I will post my thoughts. I've been relatively isolated from the fandom for the past 3 weeks so my thoughts will be my own

> (Whitley please don´t fuck it up) quality complement this franchise with a good health. So,let´s hope this gen ends well.
Please don't Whitely. I could totally see him messing up the characters to prove some point or make the plot go in a organic direction.

>dark insightful content incoming
If my last few Octobers are anything to go by in terms of my moo I wwill say it could spawn something interesting.

>me too, reserved because of my own safety, especially in terms of personal stuff.
this

>that confidence ends most of your fears in real life and those skills actually serve for something else beyond chan interactions. I have noticed that I no longer fear that much unknown people as long as I know how to put some restrictions to myself and know what I should talk about first and then,check how it goes.
I suppose a chan could be argued to be an impediment to developing normal social skills by some, but I overall agree. In these times it maybe even a positive couter in an experience or some ho might otherwise be just coddled to adulthood.

>>1960
>I've been relatively isolated from the fandom for the past 3 weeks so my thoughts will be my own
I can imagine it. If you have had other things to do, then you cannot have much activity out there in the internet (and much more considering that you only lurked in other places and you focus the activity on here).
I posted the reviews despite watching the episodes the following week so the thread wouldn´t be so out of touch with the season.
>I could totally see him messing up the characters to prove some point or make the plot go in a organic direction.
at least, the artwork could be as good looking as Tempest´s comics. The rest is a mystery yet to be seen but it would help to have a nice streak of quality these days.

>I will say it could spawn something interesting.
Time will define it...
>In these times it maybe even a positive couter in an experience or some ho might otherwise be just coddled to adulthood.
I see some students of my age that are completely innocent of what they do, playing Fortnite and living in a bubble of an eternal teenage period. I am not saying I am an exception but some do not know that people sell their data out there and think that everything is fun and memes.

In chans, as you know nobody unless you lurk a lot and post a lot in certain generals, you are alone. There is no image nor virtue signalling so if your words manage to convince strangers, so you will in real life (most likely).

Getting to hear what you don´t like directly and facing new challenges makes you grow.

And funnily enough, while I have been coddled in terms of material stuff, despite not having the best economy, I have always been down to earth and preferred to choose the realistic part. Living in an illusion inside a bubble, while fun in the short term, you get a lot of slaps in the face sooner or later.

posting Celly as a quick way to proof a little bit of activity.

>>1975
proof of life Celestia from me as well.

Celestia is excited at the /pone/ making it ever closer to 2000.

A new day well on my end a new celestia!

>>1977
it seems that I am not the only one busy over here these days. In fact, this thread also had the intention to post whatever image you wanted without explaining anything.

Just her beautiful presence is more than enough.

>>1979
woah woah Celly, you are overly excited, nobody has guaranteed those digits for you...yet

>>1980
ironically, most of my posts are made during the evenings. I suppose her sister is more fitting for my situation with the /end/.
But the majority of ideas for my greens have come during the day, so that´s a powerful counterbalance to consider.

A new day praising her as usual.

like the expression: "We will always have Paris left".

We will always have the sun left...

Celly got the digits but not in the way we would all expect,in her absolute glory.

But those are simply digits...


...and who said that the party was over?

>>2004
definitely not over because I have something prepared I wouldn´t have imagined to step into.

Not original at all, in fact it´s actually what you would expect from me in terms of copying, but it uses the tools from this site in a "canonical" way.

And don´t only expect a text but a classical theme that will have a huge impact on everything written over there, if not, the central column.

The test post is a hint by the way.

>>2004
>Celly got the digits but not in the way we would all expect,in her absolute glory.
Not Celestia the princess, but Celestia the troll it fits pefectly.

>...and who said that the party was over?
Not me. I have ten or so solid idea and dozens of haf formed ones. Not t mention a couple I may eventually post on /mlp/. Heck, we have turned even the most minor shitposts into interesting things. Party is far from over.

>>2006
>definitely not over because I have something prepared I wouldn´t have imagined to step into.
Cool. It's always interesting to do something like that. I certainly wouldn't think that I'd be taking any o the stories here I wrote seriously, be cool to see you go somewhere else new.

>And don´t only expect a text but a classical theme that will have a huge impact on everything written over there, if not, the central column.
My interest is peaked.

>The test post is a hint by the way.
Hmmmmm... Something touches upon your Celetia/Luna works of the past few months? But you are obviously going further with it then just that. Regardless I'm curious.

>>2005
>test post...
https://youtube.com/watch?v=wBXGUYRne1I [Embed]
I think I see a bit of what you're doing. Awesome!

>>2014
>dozens of haf formed ones. Not t mention a couple
By the way, my computer is a older laptop that doesn't have the best keyboard. So this is why that happes at times.

>>2013
>Celestia the troll it fits pefectly.
well she had barely any personality around 2013 save her troll movements with The Best Night Ever and setting Discord loose in season 3...

so it makes sense.

>I have ten or so solid idea and dozens of haf formed ones. Not t mention a couple I may eventually post on /mlp/.
yeah, it´s impossible to get rid of them so easily whenever you think about what could come next. It´s like catching your favorite letter out of a soup but you cannot handle the spoon to catch it with the first try.

>Heck, we have turned even the most minor shitposts into interesting things. Party is far from over.
I pointed that out with my criticism on your Twilight´s green. It surprised me that you could adapt (with a few introductory lines) to get Twilight on character and set the situation in a fantastical setting out of nowhere in such a natural way. After that, you write it like it´s yours...

that´s how the brony fanbase got so big and creative at first. Collecting every random idea and apply it somehow directly into the universe. Just that you checked how to make it a little bit more sophisticated.

Party is indeed far from over and I am putting the balloons for the next one whenever I end the replies.

>>2015
>I think I see a bit of what you're doing. Awesome!
not certainly synth pop, even though the Transformers soundtrack sums up the 80s with glam rock and the former genre so effortlessly. Weird Al manages to have lots of fun with his own songs all the time, isn´t he? Anyway, the soundtrack is highly rated, for good reasons...or because of nostalgia. You cannot beat that with the recent inclusions.

You can dare to be stupid but I have accidentally spoiled what my actual purpose is...

>>2016
>my computer is a older laptop that doesn't have the best keyboard. So this is why that happes at times.
I can imagine that. My keyboard is an emachines model from 2005 or so and it´s the oldest thing I have for my computer (far from having a PC gamer though). I do like however, the white keyboards used for science whose keys have an insane height to press on. It´s noisy but has charm. I suppose yours doesn´t belong in that type.

Apologies accepted and now, we are getting into serious stuff. Fingers crossed and I hope everything goes alright this time and the text and images get properly posted for the complete experience.

>>2021
done. And fortunately,I have not had any connection problem nor any mess with the image order.

I will comment about it even though it´s not a green by itself. It´s more like an actual celebration for reaching the 2000 posts in an unironic way. That´s why the party wasn´t over, because >>2000 was the cheap part, this one...holds something special around it.

>>2032
>That´s why the party wasn´t over, because >>2000 was the cheap part, this one...holds something special around it.
I'll be posting my full thoughts tomorrow but I will say that I have read it. How come we have never used all the colors before! I really like the vibes the songs gives off.

>>2033
>How come we have never used all the colors before!
we have had them there all this time. Just like the edits, sometimes it´s not important to have many options but making the few ones you know useful for what you want. I guess that this style had to come someday.

>I really like the vibes the songs gives off.
there is a reason why I am selective with the songs I dedicate my time because not only I have to enjoy them and get inspired but listening to them as well repeatedly while writing.

This case was a pretty hard one to resist I have to admit.

Here it comes the sun with trips!

>>2111
Nice trips. And I see you added a banner! Nice banner too.

>>2116
glad that you like them
but I...I didn't add them. I just saw that they came back again a few days ago but I don't have nor know any access for setting them up on this site

>But what kind of pleasure do I have? My life is actively dedicated for diplomacy and they judge you day after day and despite attending parties frequently they become utterly boring if they are formal reunions. The relaxing part comes naturally because of standing up for my work, not because I look for it and I hope I never lose it.

>It´s getting darker. Luna, has decided not to go to the doors dreamy hall these days due to opting for her ambassador part instead. She has always lived with less pressure and her life at least, is somewhat adventurous and different even if some dreams turn out terrifying to deal. She has a dynamic I wish I had but I cannot complain about her. I did it last moon and I think I have to get over it.

>I am willing to close my eyes and so it ends a day I want to forget right now, it´s officially over for me. The bed again, with my windows closed, saves me from these daily tense nightmares.

>The comfort is absolute and as soon as I fell asleep, the paradise passed in front of me. My body felt how my energies were recovering so naturally, fluidly and warmly that I feel like I am diving in a sea full of lava. Trapped in a heated heart of fire, with a smile and grateful to be finally at home…..so much that it feels like my room where I am sleeping does have that temperature…

>Wait, outside? Right now? How is it hot? My bedroom cannot be that hot, I would have covered myself with a blanket. I don´t want to check it out but it feels so strange that I cannot avoid thinking about it. I guess there is no other option then.

>I wake up and I see that my bedroom has turned out fully orange. Instead of watching the night, it looks like I am witnessing an abrasive sunrise. It feels asphyxiating and it cannot come so harshly from outside, my windows are closed.

>I get up and again, I still don´t know what kind of magic is showing up to me and it doesn´t seem to come from anywhere apparently. There is no object, portal nor sign of magic around here. I knew from the start that Luna wouldn´t do this. She doesn´t like the heat as much for doing a joke like this one, she would feel uncomfortable if she did. In the end, I conclude to myself:

”It´s like the heat comes from me hahaha, I am the only hot body around here!” I said to myself.

“That´s because you are!” said a sinister sassy voice from the void.

>My smile turned into fears instantly. That line I have just heard sound enormously familiar and I don´t want to admit that this voice would actually come from…

“Annoying? Don´t make me laugh until my head comes off hahaha. It´s you who comes at me as soon as you can. For such a fantastical goodness heroine like you, that would be described as a big treason for drawing upon the enemy….and yet, you are unscathed in the end. Haven´t you asked in the entire millennia why you always get away with it? Has the elder brain come to your head and you don´t want to come outside your bubble? Ooooh, how adorable, a saint believes that she is purely innocent.” Daybreaker said

“Have you never got tired of coming like this, wasting energy and time in order to burn holes in my patience? I don´t feel like fighting and protecting the rest and it seems I have to do so again” I claimed with disrespect, a clear sign that I am getting more tired than before.

“Protecting from whom? Who else is here? I only see an alicorn standing beside a mirror with an intimidating face for no reason” Daybreaker mocked.

“I am not tolerating that mockery, Daybreaker” I said.

“Mockery? Like you do every day for fun? And let´s not even talk in the parties, your skills are worthy material to teach to your students in your school” Daybreaker said.

“Trolling is a skill to take with care otherwise it ends up in bitterness” I affirmed.

“My troll moves haven´t hurt anyone. I only saw Luna with a bad face when the sun was entering into the sky when the night was supposed to come” said that intruder.

“Leave Luna alone! She hasn´t done anything and she doesn´t belong here. I know what you are trying to do” I suspected.

“You are assuming that I wouldn´t coexist with Luna. Like a good heroine, you still don´t get me. So predictable and foolish from you and I have warned it. At least, she overcame it before you” Daybreaker mocked.

“Don´t say what I have to do!” I said firmly.

“You do that to yourself and justify your frustrations with lack of free time and fun” she said.

“Ah, so you are going to be my entertainer now?” I asked with a sense of irony.

“Well, look at that, you´ve got something right. Congratulations for raising my expectations. I applause you“ Daybreaker laughed.

“You are having more fun than me even though your style of entertainment…plays with fire” I claimed.

“Fire…ironic, considering the comfort you had while you were dreaming. Diving in the ocean full of lava, feeling how the hot pleasure fills your body. Tell me darling, why do you have such a big fear to admit that you don´t get burned in a volcano? Does that remind you of me?” she asked.

>I looked at her with an infuriating face. Something in me was dying as soon as I listened to that perversion about me.

“You are still trying to live your life like a little filly who hasn´t broken a phoenix egg. All your years of experience wasted because you don´t want to grow up and you prefer living like a child instead” Daybreaker said.

“Why are you telling this to me? I asked.

“It´s not me who is telling you that but what part of you says that. You hate malice, you create a name for it and you try to stay away from it. How is a foolish teacher supposed to know what´s good or bad if she doesn´t know it by heart?” Daybreaker mocked.

“No. It cannot be happening, I don´t know what you are saying” I said desperately and broke out to tears from the inside.

>She didn´t say anything, she took her time to go after me while I was unprotected but.....she, all of a sudden, reflected a different color this time around. Something was surrounding her and the room wasn´t as orange as before. It looked greener somehow and I heard a ghostly voice coming from her.

“Celestia, open up your eyes! You are the actual problem! Don´t reject you! Accept what you are, do it quick!” that ghostly voice said.

“Enough help for now!” Daybreaker said and that different tone disappeared. The room came back to the previous orange color.

“You cannot go after that route. You have never had the will to go for it and unfortunately, you won´t.” Daybreaker said.

>I stopped crying and left my last tear to drop off from my face. I took a break to recover my sanity and…
“Never. Now that I know, you can´t prevent it” I affirmed.

“Ooooh very well. And what are you going to do? You can´t get closer to the light because that extreme will poison you. You can´t tolerate that role.” Daybreaker laughed.

…

“I do!” I closed my eyes for a second and I took a huge breath.

“AND I WILL!!!” I shouted and released all my energies for vanishing her with my magic.

>To anyone´s surprise, Daybreaker closed her and smiled to herself. She accepted the attack instead of opposing it. The answer for that is….

@“You know that if you kill me, you accept that you have an evil side. You are accepting the chance of behaving like a corrupted princess and even unsalvageable in moments of pure disharmony. You will never be clean again” Daybreaker affirmed with security.@

>I cried to myself and I knew what path I was taking. I didn´t see anything else, I was running out of patience and I didn´t want to keep this useless diplomacy anymore.

>She was actually vanishing and becoming a spirit. However, there was something strange in her last words that left me confused for a moment. It was too late before I would control the magic and power to make her disappear but what she said was…

“Impressive. I admire that you have taken the right decision and give yourself a chance of how you truly are….may the sun and fire protect your intentions. Nopony is free of the neither evil nor goodness, nature doesn´t allow it. Enjoy the darkness in its pure glory my little student….Day…Breaker…good-bye…” she said and she closed her eyes.

>She patiently waited for her death, almost like she desired it. The room was looking greener somehow…

>She lost her flames and for a second, she had a blue-green mane, so was her tail while her body was getting smaller and becoming into a spiritual light.

>I opened up my body and accepted it. I contained her spirit. When it entered into me, I didn´t feel anything until my eyes went fully white. The room became strongly orange again. It wasn´t because of her presence.

>The shining light originated from my body and I felt a strange sense of liberty. Something broke free for such event and I looked around the room. Nothing had changed…but me.

>In my head, I wore the regalia again and my mane floated in the air more violently than ever. The reflect of that orange color came from my helmet and my body whose rays were hot and powerful.

>Now that I look at myself, I realize that I am perfectly conscious of my identity; I cannot blame the dark magic anymore. I knew that from Luna. I tried to convince her with that myth but she pursued herself in order to become a better pony with her Nightmare Moon powers in her body. She could have released them at any time but she took it and accepted her. She beat me in this aspect.

“What can I do? What can I do?! I am here alone with this intimidating body and I cannot look like this in front of the rest. I have never been a princess like this….” I cried in order to avoid these words, with no illusions around.

>I took a break and a neuron set up my mind with a different mood. I stopped crying and…

“Or have I?” I asked with an evil grin.

“If I am lost with this state, the world will burn with me then. If it has to get burned, I won´t always save it….because I never was the God everyone claimed. I was just a product along with my sister” I affirmed.

“I will check the rest if it matters to me. For now, I am the only one who I care the most. I am ending this!” I concluded.

>I went to bed and I gradually lost that orange tone while I was trying to look for some sleep. As I always pretended with Daybreaker, let´s pretend that nothing of this has happened. I had put an evil grin on my face before the dreams started. Was any part of me enjoying this moment?

>I woke up even more tired than usual and there was no sign of my modified body. Again, I haven´t resolved at all the railways problem.

>I decided to call both for an unexpected reunion. I started it in the first hour of the weekend and both appeared again. I was going to make the usual presentations and such rules…in theory, I should have done but:

“Good morning, every creature. As you can see, I have reunited both Luna and Grampa Gruff to say that I am able to follow a few resolutions I have and one of them is not doing any railway at all if none of you facilitates me its setup. I am too tired to understand all your arguments. Either you decide one over the other, or we do nothing or I decide whatever I feel like for both parts. I am not going spend more energy and consume myself with this level of pressure. I haven´t slept well and I am not in the best mood for it. I leave that to your own agreements” I said firmly.

>Both my sister and Grampa Gruff were surprised by my answer, they looked at each other and it seemed like their elitisms were gone. They noticed my behavior and low self-esteem I had because of yesterday. Despite going this way, I left more energies at these words than I would have imagined. I am asking myself if it´s because of…

“We understand you, your majesty” Grampa Gruff said.

“Yes, sister. You´d better get this free weekend for what you want” Luna said.

“Fine. Now if you let me, I have personal things to cover” I ended.

>I left the situation up to them. The railways were going to be built sooner or later but I was leaving a lot to be desired with these red eyes and messy mane.

>Leaving that topic aside, I understand why Cadence loves to go around during the nights, flying and feeling free with her unrecognizable transformation such as a bat pony. Her boredom and routine drove her to a life full of void besides Flurry Heart. I shouldn´t have put such a dramatic face when I discovered her secret.

>I emphasize with her and perhaps I should play with fire as well…

>And maybe I will know that this weekend, I will prove in front of all the dragons the pony who actually dominates the volcanoes…

Fanfic title: Fighting against a mirror of fire.

Written on 28th of September, translated and edited on 29th of September.

So I had actually posted in >>2115 an edit with the line to be continued. I expected to write a conversation about Daybreaker trying to manipulate Celestia and prove how both are the same entity. What I didn´t expect was writing so much, linking all the things I never knew I wanted to write.

Unlike my previous fics, this ones doesn´t have any musical inspiration, at least ,directly. It contains some random lyric combined for convenience like Spiritualized in Do All Over Again ("Don´t think that a few words of sympathy are going to change my mind" but that one is a combination of two lines in the actual song), Idioteque the song ("laugh until my head comes off"), which was written in the last moment before posting the text here on the /end/, and The Cure from the album Pornography("I will never be clean again"). Those are very subtle and modified lyrics so no, the inspiration in this aspect just comes for little details here and there, they don´t change nor have been intrusive to the main idea.

The main idea and source for all this fic is the actual /end/, especially these confessional, political and personal posts that I have posted during this month. I think that this fic represents the perfect summary of my writing: corruption, evil side, diplomacy and raising up questions here and there with organic actions.
The main theme here is that no one here is the villain or the hero because the conversation is from just one protagonist who speaks with two wildly different perspectives yet they are the same coin in the end. Celestia is afraid of Daybreaker and there is one fatal flaw in this fic:

This conflict happens after season 8 and I contradict it with the comforts of darkness in which Celestia knows how to bring her evil side. That alone prevents this from being a perfect fic to judge.

I had solutions for everything even if they were political inspirations and it seems that I have taken an approach by using this image from the alternate universe in the comics. In this pic, Stygian describes Celestia and Nightmare Moon as easily corrupted so both princesses may have changed their names so they wouldn´t remind themselves about their own past.

This fic has one objective: show somehow my loss of innocence. Celestia is in denial most of the time, she doesn´t know how to admit that flaming arrow that is passing through her mind despite facing it a lot of times before. However, in this case, that arrow hit her in the weak point and so, her own mental conflict starts. She becomes more aggressive and Daybreaker allows her to see the path she must follow at the same time.

What you can detect from my own situation are lines like: watching the world burn, I am the only one who I care the most or the final dialog in the throne room with Luna and Grampa gruff. It´s an analogy to that event of Novemeber 2016 and the days of not giving a flying fly about the rest of the world, catching popcorn and looking just for myself because of discovering those harsh truths.

I also set this up in a late Friday and I wrote this on Friday. I got back home really late from my university for the first time in the grade so in case you are wondering, yes, I wrote this after 12 hours out there in classes and the lab sessions. What a day I had yesterday so this context actually came from my mood while I was writing this in Spanish.

I have used the multilayered/multicolored text to make it easier to read, except in >>2135 where there should be another red text instead of black.

Nothing new to see from my style of writing. If anything I am surprised I have managed to write this much (the longest one I think) in less than two days with an improvised idea that went little by little during this Friday. I suppose like Daybreaker does in the end, I will try to find some fun this weekend as well and watch the episodes while this last. It feels like a fanservice green but oh well, it´s more content. Enjoy!

L23

>>2137
This is an interesting fic. Probably your best from a pose standpoint; it never felt like it rushed or skipped anywhere. The pose wasn't complex but was a little bit above to me what you normally do. Though still mostly dialog based, you did much better with your descriptions and narration. It never awkwardly mixed like in some of your previous stories. It flowed smoothly . There is a lot of complexity and detail. Though it is ultimately a set up for the larger story, I really like the set up that pushed Celestia towards those thoughts. It felt like it could be in a episode of of the show. Overall I enjoyed it and like the thoughts raised.

>The main idea and source for all this fic is the actual /end/, especially these confessional, political and personal posts that I have posted during this month. I think that this fic represents the perfect summary of my writing: corruption, evil side, diplomacy and raising up questions here and there with organic actions.
In a way it was reflective of yourself wasn't it? With all you mentioned about your realizations and lost innocences which I obviously won't go back into detail on I can see a path of you channeling some of that here. Though their still is other thought and story implications put in, even if they impetus is yourself.

>This fic has one objective: show somehow my loss of innocence. Celestia is in denial most of the time, she doesn´t know how to admit that flaming arrow that is passing through her mind despite facing it a lot of times before. However, in this case, that arrow hit her in the weak point and so, her own mental conflict starts. She becomes more aggressive and Daybreaker allows her to see the path she must follow at the same time.
Many would take it as the darkness as part of her nature and leave it at that by the text alone. Though it does fit. As it is Celestia accepting that the world can be cruel and painful and she needs to accept the distrust cynicism and negative instincts.
“You are still trying to live your life like a little filly who hasn´t broken a phoenix egg. All your years of experience wasted because you don´t want to grow up and you prefer living like a child instead” Daybreaker said.
Celestia still wants to be a little filly. She wants th world to be the simple idyllic and childish storybook. Equestria being mostly a utopia. Harming others maybe a fear of hers but this form she is more fearful of that it says about herself. Not even being judged by others but what it says about her world and admission to the complexities and responsibilities that come with such choices. That is what she truly feared.

>This conflict happens after season 8 and I contradict it with the comforts of darkness in which Celestia knows how to bring her evil side. That alone prevents this from being a perfect fic to judge.
And so the question is: does this fic fit with Celestia? Will this fic look stupid by the season final. Agree, this fic isn't a perfect fic to judge or be used as a full theory. Though I like the thoughts with in. There is a lot of nuance to it. It's a mix of personal reflection and theory on Celestia's nature as well, and neither suffocates the other. I won't rate this one as I feel it is has been a bit erroneous of me to do so in thee past. Especially when I'm not sure how to balance personal enjoyment with judgments of technical skill in my ratings.

>>2137
>The main theme here is that no one here is the villain or the hero because the conversation is from just one protagonist who speaks with two wildly different perspectives yet they are the same coin in the end
I do wonder about the nature of Nightmare Moon and Daybreaker. The show has seemed spell it out for us at times yet there are things that sometimes raise questions or aren't so cut and dry. Luna's seemingly willful transformation into NM almost seems to go with a lot of the ideas presented in this fic (though it's conflicted in season 5 when she went emo). Of her being at peace/accepted that part of her/being able to call upon it. This scene has honestly quite fascinated me for years, as it does raise a lot of questions. Wouldn't it be traumatizing for her to do this? Do Princesses Dream of Magic Sheep would certainly suggest so. Was she shapeshifting? She had fake fangs after all. Though this leads to it's own bunch of implications and ideas.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=L021arfz-CA [Embed]

>I also set this up in a late Friday and I wrote this on Friday. I got back home really late from my university for the first time in the grade so in case you are wondering, yes, I wrote this after 12 hours out there in classes and the lab sessions. What a day I had yesterday so this context actually came from my mood while I was writing this in Spanish.
Wow and ouch. Good luck with your studies. You really got bit by the idea bug.

>, I will try to find some fun this weekend as well and watch the episodes while this last. It feels like a fanservice green but oh well, it´s more content. Enjoy!
I certainly did. I hope you had a good weekend!

>>2124
Really. So I guess the admins do that? Hmmmmm.. I would have thought that would be something that would be diagated to the BO like on 8ch. I guess thank you global mods/admins

>>2136
>Leaving that topic aside, I understand why Cadence loves to go around during the nights, flying and feeling free with her unrecognizable transformation such as a bat pony. Her boredom and routine drove her to a life full of void besides Flurry Heart. I shouldn´t have put such a dramatic face when I discovered her secret.
Ha ha. Thanks for the reffernce! Would be intrestigs to have /end/estia and /bat/cadece interact.

>>2138
>Probably your best from a pose standpoint; it never felt like it rushed or skipped anywhere. The pose wasn't complex but was a little bit above to me what you normally do.
the show has matured along with the fans as well. Here, I am just focusing on a repeated theme that has come since the birth of the map concept: doing diplomacy instead of using magic. The problem is still related to what I wrote in my last fic just that in this one, it combines stress, lack of fun and some personal questions. Barely anything changes in this aspect. The concept is not new so I guess a better narration about what I know how to deal with, it shows like a slight improvement.

> you did much better with your descriptions and narration. It never awkwardly mixed like in some of your previous stories. It flowed smoothly . There is a lot of complexity and detail.
I am not a professional writer but I must say that this took me like one entire evening to write it first and then 3 hours in the afternoon to translate it and get rid or add a few ideas, even a couple of lines in the last hour while posting it. That explains why it´s the longest fic, I didn´t look for the ending so quickly, just a full exposition of what´s presented over here. A slice of life show is absolute filler but that filler contains details that you have to keep an eye on and judge them as if it´s somewhat critical to the story.
>Though it is ultimately a set up for the larger story, I really like the set up that pushed Celestia towards those thoughts. It felt like it could be in a episode of of the show. Overall I enjoyed it and like the thoughts raised.
it is. I have imagined the follow up part for a few times between yesterday and today but who know what will happen in the end. The setup could perfectly fit in season 9 indeed. Nice to hear that enjoyment from yours.

>In a way it was reflective of yourself wasn't it?
>I can see a path of you channeling some of that here. Though their still is other thought and story implications put in, even if they impetus is yourself.
it´s reverse politics. Instead of trying to convey a political message, I am putting a political related experience that affected psychologically to the writer. It´s trendy to use media trying to fit for some agenda and ruin a cartoon/movie but here, you have to decompress it and fit in with other elements, context, lore, character... If you check my posts in the other thread, you will find that this is a medium to channel a bit that event and even funny how close it´s at times. Also, I wanted to filter politics and make the board a little bit more pony related, I was getting a bit sick of that topic and not facing the real deal. So here it is with a very different cover.....and meaning, maybe.

>Many would take it as the darkness as part of her nature and leave it at that by the text alone. Though it does fit. As it is Celestia accepting that the world can be cruel and painful and she needs to accept the distrust cynicism and negative instincts.
and the worst part is that she is not used to handling it unlike somepony who learned that lesson several times before. That will lead to a situation in which she is guilty of not accepting that reality despite her age. One may be old and have lots of years on its back...but maturing doesn´t require any age but challenging one self and overcome it. Darkness is just one element that one learns to drive as anything else just that certain groups cannot go and do an effort to take a little step forward and control it.

>>2138
>She wants th world to be the simple idyllic and childish storybook. Equestria being mostly a utopia.
we are not in season 1 anymore, the butterflies not only fly in a colorful world,but we have also seen that those little creatures do have limits and have to return to home before the magical hole gets closed (season 4 ep 16), or that the Everfree Forest is not that scary to pastel horses in comparison to other adventures, or that the world gets solved by a magical appearance from the a princess when sometimes, the princess gets mocked or looked down (Rarity Takes Manehattan, Hoffields and McColts) to the point where it doesn´t mean a rock but another charge.
I know lots of people miss the old times and I wasn´t prepared to make a reply like this but phew, the analogy came naturally.

>Harming others maybe a fear of hers but this form she is more fearful of that it says about herself. Not even being judged by others but what it says about her world and admission to the complexities and responsibilities that come with such choices. That is what she truly feared.
there is a moment in which your appearance doesn´t matter anymore but your actions and your intentions. I am not saying that an ugly mare becomes beautiful from the inside but what I mean is that yes, you will show a form that will scare others but having to deal with that resentment all the time, will probably lead to unexpected and bigger consequences in the long run for living in an internal fear of not accepting who you are and where you and your sister come from.

>does this fic fit with Celestia? Will this fic look stupid by the season final. Agree, this fic isn't a perfect fic to judge or be used as a full theory.
I am just used to writing the royalties because they hold a more adult theme behind them I can channel easier than the usual characters. Basically, adult life. If you were to ask me to write Pinkie, phew I could do it but not as right as I have done before. Celestia is just another medium that was chosen for that experience and I had to use this thread for what I wanted. It may not fit 100% nor be completely in character (though writing Daybreaker with that sarcastic tone was really fun)

>It's a mix of personal reflection and theory on Celestia's nature as well, and neither suffocates the other.
yep, exactly. A bit in the middle between the writer and the character, considering that the narration is in 1st person. I cannot expose myself too much but I struggle to put her chill personality into this story.

>I won't rate this one as I feel it is has been a bit erroneous of me to do so in thee past. Especially when I'm not sure how to balance personal enjoyment with judgments of technical skill in my ratings.
like one would say about MILFs: ratings ain´t nothing but a number. I prefer commenting about it, impressions about what parts are right,wrong and so on. If you just said, 9/10 or 0/10 in the reply, I would have found it really boring and short to have an idea.

>>2139
>I do wonder about the nature of Nightmare Moon and Daybreaker. The show has seemed spell it out for us at times yet there are things that sometimes raise questions or aren't so cut and dry. Luna's seemingly willful transformation into NM almost seems to go with a lot of the ideas presented in this fic (though it's conflicted in season 5 when she went emo).
>Of her being at peace/accepted that part of her/being able to call upon it. This scene has honestly quite fascinated me for years, as it does raise a lot of questions.
>Wouldn't it be traumatizing for her to do this? Do Princesses Dream of Magic Sheep would certainly suggest so.
>Was she shapeshifting? She had fake fangs after all. Though this leads to it's own bunch of implications and ideas.
this entire paragraph basically raises key questions that actually hit the target before it´s put. You know me well.
Yes, I thought about that scene of Luna Eclipsed and even having that impression of:"holy shit, Nightmare Moon is back!How are they going to deal with her?" and then, it was just Luna all along.
What happened in season 5 was certainly questionable and raises more questions to the table but I suppose that the form or cover doesn´t matter. The dark matter just meant the actual negative energy that Luna had (or at least, I do imply that) and it went way beyond than transforming her body. It was like an entity created from what she controlled. This is why Luna doesn´t have this problem and Celestia does. Celestia has hidden that infamous form longer and less noticeable than Luna´s case, so the problem is just postponed. Meanwhile, Luna has dealt with her enitre mind/body so her willful transformation means that she is able to do it without sacrificing a single bit from herself. In short, Nightmare Moon exists as long as Luna wants to make her a reality.

>Good luck with your studies. You really got bit by the idea bug.
thx but don´t worry, those are just lab sessions. That´s routine at this point. Just that I never got into that situation of getting my time spent in the afternoon because of a lab session. That first contact well....served for this at least. Also, the fics written in June came in an exams period. I don´t know if I am a masochist but I do write a little bit better when I have more activity around.

>I hope you had a good weekend!
I did,thx. However, I must say that writing this was a big highlight.

>I guess the admins do that? Hmmmmm.. I would have thought that would be something that would be diagated to the BO like on 8ch.
I know how to post banners in Nextchan and how the thing works but not here. I can´t do anything nor I know how that anon picked that image >>1917 and made it a banner. Yeah, nice from their part for noticing Celestia in this board.

>>2140
>Thanks for the reffernce! Would be intrestigs to have /end/estia and /bat/cadece interact.
You are welcome. We will see what happens, who knows?. Nothing is impossible until it gets written...

also,a couple of lines that will be somewhat referenced in the future are:
>sweet thing, I watch you burn so fast it scares me
and
>I love you like I love the sunrise in the morning

I have nothing written yet,but expect a lot from Spiritualized. I had said that this band was a new source of inspiration a month ago and oh boy,let's see how much they can influence sooner or later...

Proof of life shitpost: Comfy royal sisters picture edition.

>>2141
>I didn´t look for the ending so quickly, just a full exposition of what´s presented over here. A slice of life show is absolute filler but that filler contains details that you have to keep an eye on and judge them as if it´s somewhat critical to the story.
I think this fic feels like hat you have learned from writing most of the previous fics. It may not be the most unique of your's but it certainly blows th others out of simple technical execution.

>it´s reverse politics. Instead of trying to convey a political message, I am putting a political related experience that affected psychologically to the writer. It´s trendy to use media trying to fit for some agenda and ruin a cartoon/movie but here, you have to decompress it and fit in with other elements, context, lore, character..
I think that works for the best. Almost cosmically funny how close yet far it is from politics. It was the effect of politics on you, without an angenda.

>Also, I wanted to filter politics and make the board a little bit more pony related, I was getting a bit sick of that topic and not facing the real deal.
I was and especially now am sick of politics the whole supreme court nomination fight got so so so bad that I stopped keeping track, don't even touch U.S political news right now for your sanity That atmosphere feels a lot better here since the latest episodes (even from what I've seen even more gloomier parts of our fadom seem a bit happiner, though I haven't been super active in lurking around).

>So here it is with a very different cover.....and meaning, maybe.
You turned it from political back to personal with this, something that gets striped away by the very nature of politics.

>>2142
>I am just used to writing the royalties because they hold a more adult theme behind them I can channel easier than the usual characters.
>yep, exactly. A bit in the middle between the writer and the character, considering that the narration is in 1st person. I cannot expose myself too much but I struggle to put her chill personality into this story.
For as much as you were channeling yourself, you sure wrote the dialog well to the characters. That first bit there could fit right in the show. I think you did an alright job with Celestia considering the subject mater.

>like one would say about MILFs: ratings ain´t nothing but a number. I prefer commenting about it, impressions about what parts are right,wrong and so on. If you just said, 9/10 or 0/10 in the reply, I would have found it really boring and short to have an idea.
Agreed

>>2143
> This is why Luna doesn´t have this problem and Celestia does. Celestia has hidden that infamous form longer and less noticeable than Luna´s case, so the problem is just postponed
Interesting perspective. Celestia is not nessinarily stronger to the temptation but better at suppressing it (if that makes sense).

>Meanwhile, Luna has dealt with her enitre mind/body so her willful transformation means that she is able to do it without sacrificing a single bit from herself. In short, Nightmare Moon exists as long as Luna wants to make her a reality.
I could run my self in loops thinking about Luna and Nightmare moon. Personally I lean to a similarly that NM ad Luna are indeed one, though some things both in the show contradict each other. Heck, Friendship is Magic and Lunar Eclipse even do if we take Luna's transformation at face value. The things that gives me a bit of pause and prevents me from just dismissing theoies is that, for all the changes is i writers and it being a show aimed for little kids originally, there was still things that were done with a certain intent and meaning, even in season 1. Though I especially take seriously is one off remarks and background gags from season 4, that being there most well season 8 may bring that logic back lore building towards something and hard cannon season. Doesn't mean everything was purposeful and many fans push theories into stupid territory (remember Fluttershy is pregnant with Discords child?), but it sti

>>2152
(part2 I guess)
still surprises me even with pushing aside all that how there is still can be quite a bit to actually think about in some parts of the show.

>I know how to post banners in Nextchan and how the thing works but not here. I can´t do anything nor I know how that anon picked that image >>1917 and made it a banner. Yeah, nice from their part for noticing Celestia in this board.
Thanks... mods?

>>2152
>I think this fic feels like hat you have learned from writing most of the previous fics. It may not be the most unique of your's but it certainly blows th others out of simple technical execution.
indeed.It´s basically a compilation or reaffirmation of the schemes made during these months in this site. There is a certain security in terms of build up and we are not facing a full white paper. You have been seeing the evolution all along so, this should come as no surprise.

>Almost cosmically funny how close yet far it is from politics. It was the effect of politics on you, without an angenda.
if you look at recent productions, you will notice that fans and the public is getting tired of a certain progressist agenda, tainting previously beloved franchises into hotpots of sociopolitical discussion. It sucks that this attitude is dominating the net and industry as a whole. They made the production as usual but inject those few details or mandatory things that ruin the plot or feel.
Not sure if this is a counterculture writing against that, I have mostly expressed my political ideas and experiences with it. I make it clear and cannot deny that this fic has political inspirations behind, a personal event turned into pony content somehow, as a reward and exchange of having the chance to have expressed myself here without fear.

I cannot put an agenda because all the political things have been discussed, repeating myself again and again is mostly a waste of time, so what´s left is something that goes a bit further than that, yet it´s explicitly made out of it. What surrounds it along the way, makes it less political and other topics make it evolve into a different result. I am planning the next parts, probably I will write something whenever I end the works of my last lab sessions and so, I will try to review season 8 with you.

>I was and especially now am sick of politics the whole supreme court nomination fight got so so so bad that I stopped keeping track, don't even touch U.S political news right now for your sanity
you can get a break m8. Politics shouldn´t be judged with partial information or in the hot hour and concluding with first impressions that could end up being wrong. I didn´t get Gamergate until this year if I am honest. Past events could be worthy to mention in retrospective and learn a thing or two but yeah, I think we should...
>That atmosphere feels a lot better here since the latest episodes (even from what I've seen even more gloomier parts of our fadom seem a bit happiner, though I haven't been super active in lurking around).
...follow the pony route. Let´s focus a bit more on what actually matters as fans and community even if politics are there.

>You turned it from political back to personal with this, something that gets striped away by the very nature of politics.
because there are emotions behind. Keep in mind that I listen to music a lot before, meanwhile and after I write something, I am playing it as well, I read things and events that surround me or experiences of certain unknown people. Everything has an influence and there is sometimes a limit when pandering to the nature of politics. There is a moment that goes beyond the topic and it expresses other things. In addition, it easily turns into a personal view when someone uses the 1st person narration, feeling how the world judges you or how you view it from the thoughts you have had in the past.

>>2152
>For as much as you were channeling yourself, you sure wrote the dialog well to the characters. That first bit there could fit right in the show. I think you did an alright job with Celestia considering the subject mater.
thanks, I appreciate that comments. That happened with the FiM season 1 opener with my Luna´s fic, the intended part initially was the 2nd part with Luna and Celestia, I just introduced it because I had to find a way to shoehorn it properly, same goes with this one. But thanks to that minor addition at first, the story could extent much further than the main message, I guess that´s the beauty of organic writing. You don´t only write what you want but develop a thing that you didn´t think you were going to write in the first place.

About Celestia, I am impressed to hear that but she was the most fitting for this and I had to find also a way to do something else beyond posting images without saying anything. I have found myself more comfortable writing Daybreaker funnily enough, mostly because I love using sarcasm.

>Celestia is not nessinarily stronger to the temptation but better at suppressing it (if that makes sense).
Yeah, the problem is there for both sisters. Just that one has faced it right away several times and has reminded to herself what she should do. Luna has faced struggles, up and downs with it but she has overcome it and she knows there are ponies behind her that will have no doubt if she goes for that route. Meanwhile Celestia, only Dolores and Luna know what actually happened. This mostly happens because Celestia is obsessed of keeping her good image to the kingdom.

>I could run my self in loops thinking about Luna and Nightmare moon. Personally I lean to a similarly that NM ad Luna are indeed one, though some things both in the show contradict each other.
FiM is not free of plotholes and much less when different writers come into the alicorn topic. I heard somewhere that writers are free of writing whatever they want in EQG as long as they don´t enter the alicorn topic and write about Luna and Celestia. I think Hasbro is planning to keep their backstory as a big appeal for season 9 or in the future. It´s taboo for them for now.

>Heck, Friendship is Magic and Lunar Eclipse even do if we take Luna's transformation at face value. The things that gives me a bit of pause and prevents me from just dismissing theoies is that, for all the changes is i writers and it being a show aimed for little kids originally, there was still things that were done with a certain intent and meaning, even in season 1.
keep in mind that FiM was NOT supposed to have high amounts of lore or deep thinking at first, only 65 episodes of morals for children and that was it. It was not supposed to have continuity, a world that most RPG would love to have, lore to previous innocent events or characters (Gilda and the griffons for example) and so on.
And yeah, season 1 had deep thinking to some extent but it was mostly reduced to simple slice of life stories. Lauren did a great job at establishing the world but we were mostly stuck in Ponyville and we only had a subtle arc with the Gala. That depth was mostly intensified, putting it into the front, and even managed to keep that childish feel (at times) in the end. FiM is unique at that. Seeing how little things that had some thinking but were mindless ideas turned out to be hugely relevant (in an unexpected way and schedule) that would define even entire arcs or feedback episodes.

>>2152
>>2153
>Though I especially take seriously is one off remarks and background gags from season 4, that being there most well season 8 may bring that logic back lore building towards something and hard cannon season.
season 4 was the restart. If you watch the final song in Twilight´s Kingdom, you will notice that there are no repeated background ponies. There aren´t any copy-pasted ponies whatsoever and all of them have like an actual identity, becoming less replaceable in terms of animation. Season 5 did that with Dolores in What About Discord and Amending Fences, Season 6 with Thorax in the Crytalling...no wonder, you keep an eye on background stuff. Nothing has been unintended save Derpy, and even then her being an accident, she had a role in the movie by saving Twilight.

>Doesn't mean everything was purposeful and many fans push theories into stupid territory (remember Fluttershy is pregnant with Discords child?
obviously, falling into mindless conclusions and jumping into the zone in an extreme way....well, it´s cringy. Sometimes funny but that just serves to waste neurons on what could possibly a joke in the first place.
>but it still surprises me even with pushing aside all that how there is still can be quite a bit to actually think about in some parts of the show.
indeed. Animators works a lot and there are little details in retrospective that only a few appreciate at first, yet when you see the screencap threads, you notice how much effort went into the episode. It´s always been cheap static animation but polishing it, just makes it worth to get lost into such little yet cute details behind the main characters.

Pic related for example, proof of how a little gimmick bird like a phoenix for two episodes back then in early seasons then served to bring a message of adulthood in Molt Down (season 8) for Spike.

>>2195
>besides I have something to show you...
>>2230

>>2244
I will have to comment on that, Celly.

Give me time to think about it.

>>2244
Twilight found the story utterly boring, but Celestia didn't mind.

>>2303
and now they must prepare for nightmare night...

>>2304
Celestia had been trying out her creepy faces.

>>2305
some of which miss there mark...

>>2306
and some of which work too well...

>>2307
too too well...

>>2308
but it is all just an act. Celestia is still her same normal self.

>>2303
how could you get bored Celestia? why would you do this?

>>2305
>>2306
>>2307
>>2308
3spooky5me

>>2309
trollestia strikes back for Nightmare Nights

I wonder if they picked the wrong sister for it...

>>2313
>I wonder if they picked the wrong sister for it...
It woul certainly have an interesting style to it.

>>2325
don´t even think about it....

I love images inspired by the storybook style of the intro to the series.

It's okay other than Celestia's mane looks way to short.

>>2424
the surroundings really work and that´s a (almost) perfectly symmetrical Celestia.

Feels like a wallpaper image.

>>2430
she must have slept pretty bad during that night.

>>2431
>okay, with the condition that I take the comfortable bed this time around, sister.

only 20 upvotes for this one

>>2551
posting instead as a compensation one artist that actually lets downloads on the Deviantart page and of the few that draws Daybreaker flawlessly.

>>2558
That is indeed flawless.

And this one is almost flawless yet has a hint of a human facial construction that almost leads to uncanny valley, though not quite.

>>2569
she´s having a party!
>>2570
I saw this picture as well on Derpi. Nice drawing and cake too. She is enjoying one that would bake for herself.....don´t forget about Luna though!

>>2571
Sleep tight, you have had a hard day, my princess.

>>2572
into the void we go and
>>2573
deep shit happened with a badass face as a result. And that´s how Daybreaker was born, kids.

>>2574
indeed. That picture doesn´t seem to be placed that far behind though.

>>2575
>this one is almost flawless yet has a hint of a human facial construction that almost leads to uncanny valley, though not quite.

Even though that hint happens, it doesn´t get any better than this....and that´s alright. It might turn off a bit at those who avoid anthro or humanized elements at all costs but in general, is there anything wrong with this?

If it isn´t, let´s enjoy it.

alright, here I go.
This is probably the most spontaneous writing I have had so far (for a long translated fic).
Hope you can enjoy it but I actually didn´t expect to write this part so soon because I thought I would be absolutely busy these days yet I have found time for it.

1st part here: >>2131
2nd part....tonight.

2nd part


>I left them there, thinking about a topic that was burning me out

>I wasn´t willing to digest all their worries. I think I have acted formally enough for such a bad mood like this one.

>I feel absolutely destroyed for barely sleeping tonight. I come back to my bedroom and I don´t know if I can accomplish the promise I had made in the reunion.

>Why would I be dreaming about lava? How did that happen? What part of me is attracted to feel such dangerous move?

>Although it doesn´t feel that strange when someone has to think and consume herself in uneducated creatures that only think about themselves and one has to sacrifice herself for their mistakes.

>I sometimes wonder if the princess title ends up as worthless in the end. There is barely any power to play while I could have designed a route perfectly if it only depended on me. If it wasn´t because of the rupture between the 3 pony races that leads into chaos, I could carry the torch perfectly and keep this world under my hooves along with Luna.

>Although my sister doesn´t help. She had been pulling over to one misunderstanding in the past. While it´s true I was Starswirl´s favorite out of the two, she doesn´t hide her desires to the public. Everyone knows about Nightmare Moon but only 4 ponies know about “that dream”.

>I have kept myself inconspicuous for my own problems yet I cannot hide them whenever they become so palpable. Even when I try to keep my patience, they don´t even say thanks.

>I still cannot sleep. My mind cannot stop thinking about what has happened last night. At this step, I would be willing to follow its orders and maybe that choice in the end could…

>Aw, perfect my sister is coming.

#“Sister?” Luna asked while opening slightly the door./#

“What do you want, Luna? I am trying to sleep” I said and not with the kindest face I could have shown.

“I know but, I have noticed you weird today” she said.

“I am perfectly fine, Luna. There is no need to think about that” I said

“Celestia, please. We know each other pretty well and you don´t normally act like this” she affirmed.

“Oh really? How cannot I act like that if you are so tiring with the railways?” I said sarcastically

“Look sister. It´s not my fault they feel anxious to have them. I only speak in the name of…” Luna said.

“On behalf of whom?” I disrupted her. “Luna, I have seen you arguing like the topic were for your cause and not from the bat ponies. I have had to calm down a lot of tensions this week because of how you emotionally react” I said tired.

#“But Grampa Gruff is always very possessive as well. I cannot do anything but facing him in his terrain. Did you expect me to fall short?” she affirmed./#

“He may be unpleasant and we both know it but you didn´t help at all at containing yourself. It´s obvious that you are the minor of the two and you always guide yourself into what you think it´s good for you. That doesn´t work here, sister. Diplomacy isn´t as easy as you think and I always have to work with it patiently” I affirmed.

#“Are you saying that I am impatient? I may not have the level of yours but you are looking down on me. I would be capable to steer this problem much better than you think” she said./#

“Look Luna, we have had that elitism back in a couple of moons when we changed our cutie marks and duties. You can defend yourself but I don´t see you resolving tense problems like these. You become really ambitious and you want to go further than you can do and you can´t. You can´t do it.” I answered.

“Someone has to end up with a decision even if it´s bad. I don´t see you feeling like doing it. You have been thinking about yourself today and for some reason, you reunited us for nothing. I don´t see that patience you are talking about” Luna responded.

>Something in me was dying when she questioned my abilities like that.

“I have had to waste tons of patience and energies for a topic like this and you go and criticize that I don´t have any. How could you? I thought that you would understand my problems and I feel lonely after hearing this” I said.

“You wanted to stay alone today. Go ahead. Sleep if you want but I prefer resolving this problem by myself for once because I don´t see you very enthusiastic.” She said.

“If that´s what you are looking for, feel powerful, then. I haven´t had any pleasure these days and nobody says thanks for my efforts. You come here and instead of supporting me, you question my will” I said desperately

#“Do you even think that I….?” she was about to ask./#

“I think that you should leave me alone” I cut her off. “I had to focus not only on those railways but on your ambitions too. You tire me a lot, Luna” I said.

#“Fine…if that´s what you assume. We´ll have to end to this with or without you” she said. “Equestria hasn´t stopped in a 1000 years, why should it end if you let others to take over you while you are resting?” she asked/#

“I fear about your actions. If things didn´t rely on me, everything could go terribly bad. Don´t even imagine it when you own sister wants the throne and replace you” I answered.

#“What?” she asked confused. “I already have a throne. It´s just that…” Luna said/#

“That you are going to mess it up. I´d rather leave you aside before leaving it on your own completely. You put it really hard with those emotions you show” I affirmed with confidence.

#“You don´t trust me, uh? Very well, take me like a fool…. Keep thinking like that” Luna said, almost shredding a small tear from her eye./#

“I would have preferred not having this conversation, now that you are about to cry” I said.

“Yeah, I wouldn´t have wanted it either. I am actually a fool for worrying about you today” she said, trying to contain her emotions.

“The only thing that you have to worry sister is leaving me alone today” I answered.

“This won´t end up like you are saying. Not like this….” Luna left the door with a sad face.

>She closed the door and I said to myself:

“The moon didn´t give any life to us…. yet the sun did. I don´t need you, sister” I claimed to myself.

>There was a great silence when she left. At this moment, I had to begin thinking about what to do all over again, without her on my side. She is probably going to talk to Cadence to comfort her now that she is here in Canterlot.

>Not only that but she also wants to take over the reign. She believes that´s enough for her. Her power is inferior to mine but she also doesn´t beat me at arguing like I do with different creatures. A primitive species like indoctrinated bat ponies works, but that falls short when I have to handle an entire continent.

>I try not to keep my head spinning about this topic. However, I don´t know what´s worse. My mind will explode if I don´t do anything. I have to move myself because I feel powerless and I cannot see the light anywhere.

>At least, I have two days to come up with something. That´s very little time and stress can come back again. All of this without any pleasure for me.

>I had been thinking during this afternoon, while baking cakes badly because I was too tired to make them decent, that maybe I should I test that pleasure that parts of me wants so much.

>It isn´t easy to take any of these two routes but at least, this is personal and I can resolve it myself, without relying on anypony else.

>They would suspect that I have left Canterlot without permission but if I fly quickly to the Dragonlands without seeing me and maybe returning tomorrow, I could get away with it. My sister is the one who visits me anyway. My royal guard don´t usually check my room when I am not in charge. Maybe I can afford coming here late if anything happens.

>I waited for the night to come anxiously. It costs me to breathe a bit because I don´t know completely what will happen over there and I normally hide those fears. I sent the guards to go because I didn´t need them near around. It´s somewhat claustrophobic to me having them all the time but I sent that order to secure the plan.

>So it went like that. The night finally came and they obeyed what I asked. It feels good that they do it without hesitation. That pattern should happen more often…

>Everyone was sleeping and even though my eyes are slightly red because of that lack of sleep, I could go out and fly over there without many problems.

>I left the bed disordered and I used the old bed sheet whenever someone wants to check my room. Not the best trick but at least, that could gain me a bit of precious time if I had enough luck.

>I closed the curtains and the window with my hooves and I consumed my energies instead in flying fast as soon as I took off so they wouldn´t see me leaving.
>While the south is not as hostile as it was in the past, Ember doesn´t control all the dragons completely. They live under their own free will and I hope I don´t come across with anyone when I am there.

>It took me a few hours to arrive at the Dragonlands because of my tired state. I am only driven because of my curiosity and the eagerness of ending everything now. The night should be ending soon and maybe I should raise the sun a bit for concealing the average pattern, even with my little energy left. I will leave it in the natural way.

>Finally, after so many thoughts in my head, I have arrived to the land of dragons….and volcanoes.

>This ambient requires an energetic spirit and I am following the contrarian route.

>I raised the sun as I thought but it dispelled in the middle of the process. It cost me for keeping myself sane in these thoughts and not in what I should do. I left the rest for keeping the flowing mane and tail. I have to keep my normal image if someone sees me.

>Now I am here in the volcanic crater. There it is the lava in front of my eyes. What surprises me the most is that despite feeling that heat, it´s not as insufferable as I thought. An average pony could withstand this ambient without entering there.

>I was seeing it fascinated and the interest is killing me. It leaves a bad taste in my mouth for not arriving at the extreme I felt like managing to feel. I have doubts if my body could stand that. I ask myself if maybe a spell for my body could….

“Well, well, well. Look at that. A pony who has dared to step into our playground and annoy us again” a pimp dragon said. “Haven´t they taught you that this is our place, white pony? Oh wait, that you are so soft and pastel creatures that you look for the red color of the rainbow over here for you “friendship”, isn´t it?” he continued.

>They laughed and mocked at me. I turned around my body and the one who was talking to me was Garble and his gang. Twilight had talked to me about them a couple of times.

“If you actually knew who you are talking to, you wouldn´t act that way” I responded

“Hey watch out, the white pony is getting furious. How scary and she wants to battle, uh?” he sarcastically said.

“You are dealing with the royal princess of Equestria. You hear me?” I affirmed with confidence without blinking.

“And what are you doing here, princess? Aren´t you supposed to be dealing with pony stuff? Are you coming for conquering us with your friendship you impose so much?” he asked.

“That´s none of your business” I answered.

“Very well, as you don´t want to say it in the good way, you´ll have to taste “our welcome”, princess” he answered.

>They made a circle around me and I didn’t have in my plans to fight. However, I keep my pride and hard image from the outside until the very end. I am feeling tired of all of this, I don´t feel like evading more problems than the ones I have, enough.

“Well, princess. Are you going to day it or do you want our welcome?” Garble said.

“How about you obey me and leave me alone?” I asked

“We only obey what we want: gems and volcanoes and you are interrupting us. Did you expect something nice like your ponies do?” he said.

“I hope you don´t do what you are planning to do” I affirmed.

>They stopped and thought for a while looking at themselves. They knew ponies can perfectly mess up with them because of their stupidity.

“Alright, buddy. We won´t not that it works that well either. They survive at that” Garble said with certain madness.

“I hope so for your own good” I said.

“You are lucky that this volcano isn´t the one that we wanted to be today” he said.

>I made a gesture with my head but I had a suspicious look.

>They seemed to leave me alone and I could return at looking at the lava I was aiming for. Sometimes, looking at it so closely leaves you with the feeling that you could be there and…

“You know that you love it. You won´t deny that you loved the old hobby that you had for yourself, alone” that voice said, more proper of coming from my mouth than from anyone else.

“Finally your visions serve for something right. I am happy that you have given a chance….to the old values” she said.

>My body was accommodating to the hostile ambient and little by little, I was feeling like that was my own nature. My mane and my tail were blazing but that didn´t bother me at all. My body was receiving all the energies from the heat.

>My regalia were burning as well but surprisingly, not that turned into black. They ended up adapting the orange color from the lava. I closed my eyes and I was changing my mood over time, turning that fatigue into a prideful behavior.

“You desired coming to this ambient. I think that you deserve me an apology for telling it to you again” I said, adopting those words as if they were mine.

>I didn´t care the fact that it took my possession. I was about to die but now that I´ve realized about it; this was a part of my identity all the time. Maybe I shouldn´t act innocently and focus on things that actually matter from the beginning.

>My body gradually caught everything. So vibrant, heated and exciting ... the transformation felt complete. I was alive again and I was a part of it.

“The phoenix always raises from the ashes. You weren´t the exception. You only had to find it” I said. “Welcome to the world again, Daybreaker”

>For the first time in a week, I laughed at myself by looking at the mirror. I have found myself. I hadn´t realized that I had to see and check for myself what this beautiful place offers to me. If I haven´t taken part of the problem, then others have led me to do it instead.

>I like staying here and thinking about the purity and richness this valuable fountain offers. I recovered all my force and I could glow my horn effortlessly.

>Wave goodbye to that disappointing diplomacy and my personal failure. I am here back again and instead of showing my weak forms of dealing my problems….

>…..I will use the ancient ones that worked for me!

“I have revived…to stay! Now, you will know what happens when you don´t let this princess sleep!” I exclaimed.


“And I will teach you one lesson…..or two….hahahahaha!” I laughed with the biggest grin I have had in a very, very long time.

“The Mirror of Fire. Chapter 2: A legend was reborn”

Written and translated in the 25th of November (2018).

I didn´t expect to make this part so long in the first place. There haven´t been plans nor daydreams for thinking about this part deeply.

I wanted to reach to the transformation because it will lead to something else in the future. The only writing process here was following the most organic dialogue possible and avoiding huge changes in Celestia´s character so abruptly for avoiding over the edge moments.

Little by little, the biggest analysis I can make out of this is the signs from a nice figure to a totalitarian one. This part has politics in it but they are more subtle and they are translated into more dialogue and gesture from the protagonist.

Again, I follow the 1st person narrative and that offers a more human and rational explanation of introducing and making Daybreaker real into the world.

In the first part, I said that Celestia hides these thoughts way better than Luna but that doesn´t mean she´s free of committing any sin. In fact, not sharing that problem could lead into a self-ego that translates into a less nice vision of her. More daring, less sympathetic and all of this with a factor that comes into play: her lack of sleep.

Sure, she is a princess that has lived long enough, almost an eternal deity for some fans. However, while she is able to recover herself from the fire and high temperatures, she cannot hold the consequences like the lack of sleep. Stress, obsessions for anything, failing at her plans….this is a slow process that tired her more and more. It translates into falling low on guarding herself and she only can focus on one thing.

The effect of the mirror from the first part has an influence and while she accepted the spirit, it suggested to her for her own acceptance. That same magical mirror served to look at her hidden side and appreciate it....closely enough.

There were no musical influences while writing this at first. Just in the last hour, while I was translating the transformation part, I remembered these lyrics and listened again to the song: “I am the vision of hell, I laughed at the mirror for the first time in a year”; “I think about tomorrow, please let me sleep!” That same song from The Cure fit into the fic perfectly that I couldn´t avoid referencing at it again (The Figurehead) and I modified the translation for integrating those lines.

Saving that, I didn´t expect to write it so soon. I thought I was reaching the next part as soon as I started writing but there had to be an organic process for that even though I admit that a dragon tackling a pony to the lava is improperly placed for a show like this, even though they have arrived to the previous step of darkness in the actual show.

The main objective of this is showing off the steps of a powerful figure and the subtle lines that come from her thoughts and spoken lines to the rest.

So it gets more obvious this time around that Daybreaker was the protagonist herself all the time and now, she is placed in the front instead of being trapped in a cage inside Celestia´s body.

L23

>>2663
>wrote an entire green long celestia green continuation
Awesome! I don't have time to review at the moment but will have something up in 2 or 3 days.

>I didn´t expect to make this part so long in the first place. There haven´t been plans nor daydreams for thinking about this part deeply.
basically me when I conceived my large project at first

>>2664
>I don't have time to review at the moment but will have something up in 2 or 3 days.
take your time. I decided to write that because I thought I would have been busy from last weekend onwards and I didn´t see any chance of writing at all before Christmas in my plans.

It turns out that without thinking too much about it, I opened the Word and the lines that came while writing were somewhat spontaneous and I have hardly deleted the words typed. Only the translation fixed a few lines and readjusted them but the overall scheme was typed for what I wanted in the first take. So yeah, this is a surprise even for me. I didn´t think that I would write 7 pages so fast.

Between the comic and this, I believe that there is enough fresh entertainment because this week will bring me a rollercoaster that will consume me with these laboratory sessions I am having this week and a half.

>basically me when I conceived my large project at first
spontaneity is not a bad thing. It only offers a less polished yet more direct version of where you want to go. We´ll see someday what you can offer and what influences there will be behind....

As for now, I can confirm that The Mirror of Fire has more surprises to offer in the future yet not a single one has been written so far.....until one random night arrives and it goes like this all over again.

>>2663
>I wanted to reach to the transformation because it will lead to something else in the future. The only writing process here was following the most organic dialogue possible and avoiding huge changes in Celestia´s character so abruptly for avoiding over the edge moments.
You did. Almost flawlessly in my opinion. The dialog feels extremely organic, especially the whole problem that is driving Celestia to this with the railroad. Princess Celestia feels plausibly in character. I think there may bit a bit of edge but you're within a acceptable cone of uncertainty. Not to the point of being just edgy for edginess sake.

>“Someone has to end up with a decision even if it´s bad. I don´t see you feeling like doing it. You have been thinking about yourself today and for some reason, you reunited us for nothing. I don´t see that patience you are talking about” Luna responded.
What is the core of this problem? Is it Luna's wish for the bat ponies? As compared to the griffins, they have been ignored and could stay forgotten for awhile longer while the griffins need to be placated. But is that good policy? To grant to those that whine the most what they want first? Will that just lead you to be stepped on? Or is it the system itself for having to worry about different groups to placate and satisfy? These are all things I could see being in Celestia's head as the doubt creeps in.

>There was a great silence when she left. At this moment, I had to begin thinking about what to do all over again, without her on my side.
Celestia is being childish or she has a deeper hatred than she realizes.

>Now I am here in the volcanic crater. There it is the lava in front of my eyes. What surprises me the most is that despite feeling that heat, it´s not as insufferable as I thought. An average pony could withstand this ambient without entering there.
This is something that makes me think of my own ideas with Princess Bat Cadence at least one of the paths Is part of this her nature that she has been denying herself? She is in the prison of Princesshood and it is hard to tell what is greed and when is too far, especially for all the self sacrifice that she has done. Though Cadence is different in that the bat form is much more on the side of indulgence than a part of herself that she has been suppressing. This makes me sympathize with her now to an extent. Though her behavior down the line could test it.
>“Someone has to end up with a decision even if it´s bad. I don´t see you feeling like doing it. You have been thinking about yourself today and for some reason, you reunited us for nothing. I don´t see that patience you are talking about” Luna responded.
As Luna said, she is refusing to do anything in the face of a hard choice...

>>2663
>I started writing but there had to be an organic process for that even though I admit that a dragon tackling a pony to the lava is improperly placed for a show like this
It depends on how close to the show you plan to stick to and what you consider that even to be. Sure, a Dragon randomly pushing a pony into lava with the intent to kill probably wouldn't happen. But you have to ask yourself this: if Equestrian had a war would you portray death? Say you wrote a fic in the alternate Sombra timeline, would you put death in it. Arguably it would be there in a situation, at least implicitly, but it depends on how you look staying in character and staying within the realm of what is reasonably portrayable. Though for me I see no problem with it. I've seen fics go this far even when trying to stay close. It depends both on your philosophy and your goal.

>If I ever saw you again, I would take serious measurements with you even though it´s not entirely your fault.
Shouldn't it be measures? Or is there a meaning to the wording that I'm not getting at?

>My regalia were burning as well but surprisingly, not that turned into black
I think that it should be worded: not that it turned to black.

I've always been hesitant when it comes to grammer as I've never considered myself to have an eye for it, but I'm trying to be more helpful and these two sticked out to me as a little awkward/possibly erroneous.
Plus all the tag errors with Luna's dialog >>2658

All and all, I liked this fic. Though my enjoyment for this one has been characterized by my enjoyment/amusement for smaller details over the larger narrative set to assumable so far, so I won't offer a full judgment till I see how this fits in with whatever happens next. I looking forward to it though.

>>2676
>You did. Almost flawlessly in my opinion. The dialog feels extremely organic, especially the whole problem that is driving Celestia to this with the railroad. Princess Celestia feels plausibly in character. I think there may bit a bit of edge but you're within a acceptable cone of uncertainty. Not to the point of being just edgy for edginess sake.
I can die happily after reading this then. I wanted to introduce Daybreaker into the actual world and put transmit that grey zone again like I did in past fics. It´s obvious that I had to add a slice of edginess to it because the evil side has to intimidate and lead into an uncomfortable direction.
However, that was present in all the fic and the changes have been (fortunately without forcing them) changing gradually with a series of events that try to justify that darker tone.

It´s almost like I have been writing it with the mindset of avoiding that line.

>What is the core of this problem? Is it Luna's wish for the bat ponies?
nope. Celestia misunderstands her sister because she takes the topic as hers so when they argue, she transmits the problem as if it was a personal one. Luna is supposedly representing the bats but transmits her arguments as if they came from her directly.

>But is that good policy? To grant to those that whine the most what they want first? Will that just lead you to be stepped on? Or is it the system itself for having to worry about different groups to placate and satisfy? These are all things I could see being in Celestia's head as the doubt creeps in.
it´s indeed that good policy, those good vibes and the smile she has kept almost all the time. The fact that she hides what she has to think about and decide what to do consumes her and it looks like she has to be the voice of reason and the wishes´ box for those who come at her.

>Celestia is being childish or she has a deeper hatred than she realizes.
her "evil" side is leaking more by this point. I wanted you to notice those little changes and how the consequences are paying off. First, she hasn´t taken a rest. Nobody can survive the symptoms of living as a zombie.Secondly, she thinks that Luna is causing more trouble to what she wants than support.

>This is something that makes me think of my own ideas with Princess Bat Cadence at least one of the paths Is part of this her nature that she has been denying herself?
it´s pretty similar and we had talked about this before. The fact of trying to accept what you have been and how you can deal with it. Luna accepted that dark side and struggled a couple of times to place herself into the universe. First, using Nightmare Moon as a figure for creepy moments in Nightmare Knights and in Magic Sheep, preventing that the Tantabus would leak into the world. She accepted her mistakes and that process solved her identity and the chaos. Twilight said to her that if she was doing to the rest a favor and wish the good for the rest, it would mean that she was not the same pony as she had been in Season 1 opener.

Also, check the face Celestia puts as soon as she notices Daybreaker in the dream. It´s like she has seen a revelation from the divinity, leaving her without words for a while. That´s a detail I am making interpretations from.

But yeah, that attraction comes because Daybreaker is showing, in all the fic, since Celestia has absorbed her, she is placed in two sides constantly but the circumstances still influence a lot ....well,she´s made of fire and I tried to correlate that hot appearance with an obscure background story she had long ago. Also with her obsession of trying to forget about her yet a certain part of her appears "for no reason" when it has an actual root to her identity.

>>2676
>She is in the prison of Princesshood and it is hard to tell what is greed and when is too far, especially for all the self sacrifice that she has done.
that´s an interesting observation to comment but we don´t know how much she has made to the kingdom or not.

>Though Cadence is different in that the bat form is much more on the side of indulgence than a part of herself that she has been suppressing. This makes me sympathize with her now to an extent. Though her behavior down the line could test it.
it has its details that share both things. In fact, I have liked how characters grow and take control of both sides of the coin with just their own minds. Each one will have a different context but as one would expect, one cannot act as an angel nor as a demon all the time. Celestia has been trying to hide it and trying not to hurt her image. Cadence does the latter to a lesser extent but the Crystal Empire is just a city while Celestia is ruling (or tries to rule) for Equestria.
Cadence can afford her indulgence by herself and facing the consequences as an average pony that doesn´t have anything going for her. Besides Cadence has complained that there isn´t much going on for her so she needs pleasure and "adventures". That causes a contrast from her usual passiveness and she is a princess that has yet to show mistakes in the show.

Both will feel similar in this but the actions and consequences won´t collapse. I am telling you that there are differences between both even though they share that aspect.

>she is refusing to do anything in the face of a hard choice...
Celestia is looking at two targets at the same time because she has so much going on over her head that she cannot solve any of them effectively. This part comes from personal experience. I was writing summaries and writing down notes for the days of study and I certainly achieved it. However, my mind was unfocused and I did that because of an automatized action and it didn´t require too much thought/focus into it.

When something enter into the sensible zone completely like that political change of mind in that weekend of November of 2016, then I couldn´t get out of that uncomfortable place. I couldn´t avoid thinking about it and it invaded my thoughts all the time so much that my family and friends had to stop me in several things. There was no room for comfort because my head didn´t allow me. I took politics way too personally and I felt that the world was going to jump against me for discovering some truths that unknown people would pursue me for realizing about that "top secret" info (barely a secret these days for me, it was about the elites and stuff).

So basically,I tried to apply that experience to her. She cannot avoid thinking about Daybreaker and getting invaded by her (like Luna in Magic Sheep). That awkward attraction for lava consumes her mind and that subtle dream becomes bigger and bigger and modifies her attitude. The more that she gives it attention, it grows. That tiresome question makes her less nice because she tries to find an answer and apply it for what she cannot do. What happened back then? I haven´t written it and a 1000 years is a very long period for a lot of events that the writing staff could exploit as an ultimate hype weapon (if they wanted)

>>2677
>Shouldn't it be measures? Or is there a meaning to the wording that I'm not getting at?
in theory, it´s measures. You are right. Measurements is the action of using a meter or quantifying physical property even though the same word in Spanish is the same. I have fixed that, thanks.

>I think that it should be worded: not that it turned to black.
I meant that regalia earned an orange color instead of getting the black color because of combustion (as one would expect). Fixed that either way.

>I've always been hesitant when it comes to grammer as I've never considered myself to have an eye for it, but I'm trying to be more helpful and these two sticked out to me as a little awkward/possibly erroneous.
yeah, thanks a lot. It´s always welcome to keep an eye on that and try to become a little bit better. However, I am surprised that I have written around 3700 words for this part in just one night and the only awkward mistakes to be found are those (so far).

>Plus all the tag errors with Luna's dialog
that was frustrating as hell. I sighed after checking that problem.I expected that the lines for Garble or Daybreaker would share this problem but they didn´t. Not a single line of the colored text for them has had this problem yet the blue one doesn´t work that well. I will have to test it a few times before posting the next part or deleting the incorrect post that only shows black text instead of blue.

>It depends on how close to the show you plan to stick to and what you consider that even to be.
that´s the core art of writing and freedom of creating literally anything.
>But you have to ask yourself this: if Equestrian had a war would you portray death? Say you wrote a fic in the alternate Sombra timeline, would you put death in it.
depends on what purpose I would try to convey with it. Those deaths have to add a message for the story. It has to complement it. If they don´t, I would focus on something else. There has to be something beyond that before putting them onto the table for a childish show like this one.

I have commented that I certainly see it a bit over the edge for doing that but I didn´t have in mind other alternatives either...

>Though for me I see no problem with it. I've seen fics go this far even when trying to stay close. It depends both on your philosophy and your goal.
basically this. If it goes that far, there has to be a reason behind and while the action itself is pretty over the top, I tried to combine it with her desire and a medium to develop her thoughts.

>All and all, I liked this fic. Though my enjoyment for this one has been characterized by my enjoyment/amusement for smaller details over the larger narrative set to assumable so far, so I won't offer a full judgment till I see how this fits in with whatever happens next. I looking forward to it though.
well, this fic was created for expressing a political experience to some sort of content that will have to land somewhere else. There were no visions about this part nor plans to have it this long so it would be a chapter itself.
I only wanted to express those feelings and then, combine with something else and it receives its own identity. I cannot promise anything because all I have built is just an excuse over another excuse.

The fact that this is plausible yet entertaining content for the setting and fantastical world amuses me enough. There is more....but...we´´ll have to wait to discover it. Yeah, I don´t even have it all that clear.

>>2683
>that´s an interesting observation to comment but we don´t know how much she has made to the kingdom or not.
I was actually talking about Celestia, not Cadence, but I didn't fit it well since I had just mentioned Cadence.

>When something enter into the sensible zone completely like that political change of mind in that weekend of November of 2016, then I couldn´t get out of that uncomfortable place. I couldn´t avoid thinking about it and it invaded my thoughts all the time so much that my family and friends had to stop me in several things.
Not sure I could say get ya on politics since for me it was more of gradual process. But I think I feel ya on the paranoia. Though it wasn't as quick I have had a few times of almost obsessive paranoia do to being debased. Not a good state...

>>2682
> can die happily after reading this then. I wanted to introduce Daybreaker into the actual world and put transmit that grey zone again like I did in past fics. It´s obvious that I had to add a slice of edginess to it because the evil side has to intimidate and lead into an uncomfortable direction.
There has to be some. Even if you stay strictly with only what's portrayed on screen, we still have things like Tempest and Tirek. I'd almost say it'd be a disservice if you didn't have a bit of edge for her tbh. Though I don't know the future, I'd say right now ya nailed it.

>But yeah, that attraction comes because Daybreaker is showing, in all the fic, since Celestia has absorbed her, she is placed in two sides constantly but the circumstances still influence a lot ....well,she´s made of fire and I tried to correlate that hot appearance with an obscure background story she had long ago. Also with her obsession of trying to forget about her yet a certain part of her appears "for no reason" when it has an actual root to her identity.
A question I have is that if there is any part a denial of nature vs a corruption. I would take me a long time to word what I mean and maybe beyond the scope of this fic's goal, so I'll explain later.

>>2684
>The fact that this is plausible yet entertaining content for the setting and fantastical world amuses me enough. There is more....but...we´´ll have to wait to discover it. Yeah, I don´t even have it all that clear.
Me neither, despite the scope of my project. I like that attitude of just letting it happen. Wise mindset.

>>2684
>yeah, thanks a lot. It´s always welcome to keep an eye on that and try to become a little bit better. However, I am surprised that I have written around 3700 words for this part in just one night and the only awkward mistakes to be found are those (so far).
I may not have the best eye for it but I'd say that is an achievement.

>depends on what purpose I would try to convey with it. Those deaths have to add a message for the story. It has to complement it. If they don´t, I would focus on something else. There has to be something beyond that before putting them onto the table for a childish show like this one.
I'm probably count myself as one more open to taking full detours to the show at times. This is probably do to the influence of the various fanfics that I have read. Still sticking a little closer isn't so bad and can have it's own fun... not t mention keeping you grounded. Oh, I hope I can find one of the early hits that completely went off the rails. there is one in particular that shows how much the fandom has matured .

>I only wanted to express those feelings and then, combine with something else and it receives its own identity. I cannot promise anything because all I have built is just an excuse over another excuse.

>>2720
Cat on keyboard.
>I only wanted to express those feelings and then, combine with something else and it receives its own identity. I cannot promise anything because all I have built is just an excuse over another excuse.
As I said just let it flow and see where it goes. I think it's almost more fun that way anyway.

>>2717
>I was actually talking about Celestia, not Cadence, but I didn't fit it well since I had just mentioned Cadence.
I...went into double standards as well. We know that Celestia and Luna were two students of Starswirl but we don´t much about what made them special or stand out above the rest (unless you are counting the comics and the Legends Of Magic arc). Probably because they were alicorns or had some kind of talent that drew the attention....but we don´t know about the selective process to introduce them into loyalty.

>Not sure I could say get ya on politics since for me it was more of gradual process. But I think I feel ya on the paranoia.
Obviously your personal experiences and results will be different than mine because you went through a different path or period of time to assume and overcome with that new info into your mind and digest it with smaller dosis. I am just basically acknowledging and admitting about that experience of mine, reflecting it in some way and entertain with these settings. Giving it a productive twist and make it OC material.
I couldn´t imagine writing this for other characters though.

>Though it wasn't as quick I have had a few times of almost obsessive paranoia do to being debased. Not a good state...
ufff, that´s fucked up. I might have had obsessions about political stuff before but it never went into that direction of feeling so claustrophobic and alone relatively speaking until that event. You feel sucked into the void and betrayed to what you had believed before, breaking the columns you had cemented. All that chaos and rebuilding process leads to those symptoms that not many people would handle that well.

One must feel fortunate and proud to not have fallen into more stupid and over the edge decisions because of that and the lesson is that if you have survived to those experiences, barely anything else will challenge you as hard as that.

So yeah, my plan I think is embracing that it happened and never repeat that mistake again and try to see if I can make something artistic with it. And it keeps going into....somewhere else...

>>2718
>There has to be some. Even if you stay strictly with only what's portrayed on screen, we still have things like Tempest and Tirek. I'd almost say it'd be a disservice if you didn't have a bit of edge for her tbh.
this sparks an idea of writing a story about Daybreaker acting as the cute/nice side and Celestia as the tyrannic side....or at least draw a pic of putting both sides conflicted in a reverse world.
I get what you mean. It´s that I was worried about stepping too much into the zone for its own good. Like trying to convey that dark feel without giving unnecessary tense vibes that escalate extremely into cliched edgy stories.
If I try to break the rules, I should know them first

>Though I don't know the future, I'd say right now ya nailed it.
well, that´s really surprising for a relatively spontaneous move. The next parts are going to feel different in comparison....who knows...

>if there is any part a denial of nature vs a corruption. I would take me a long time to word what I mean and maybe beyond the scope of this fic's goal, so I'll explain later.
yeah, I think you are trying to ask about that mirror part, like revealing herself for something that has styed hidden all the time. Then, that secret goes out and get revealed in public and one should consider several measures as soon as it appears. It´s kind of both and I will mention it later in the fic buuuuut here is the actual problem, I don´t know much about Celestia´s backstory considering the huge amount of years she has lived. That´s a big deal because I can certainly headcanon rational stories that could have happened to her yet I don´t know the origins of both evil entities (more about NMM than Daybreaker). All of this leads me into playing a little bit with the different tones of grey but not knowing quite where the actual root comes from because it´s still left unexplained (as far as I know).

>>2719
>Me neither, despite the scope of my project. I like that attitude of just letting it happen. Wise mindset.
yeah me too.
people like natural works that come from one self these days. For artificial perspectives and fake realism, we already have the edit thread. Even if you could hack my computer to get into the Endchan texts folder, there is no 3rd part written so far.

This is why I don´t like promising anything nor setting expectations. Until it doesn´t get actually posted, anything can happen even at the last hour while translating/coloring the text. So I just hope I keep that level of quality unless I have a retarded episode inside me while writing and make the reader flip the table whenever he reads it.

>>2720
>I may not have the best eye for it but I'd say that is an achievement.
yeah and let´s hope it remains enjoyable while it lasts. The more, the better.

>I'm probably count myself as one more open to taking full detours to the show at times. This is probably do to the influence of the various fanfics that I have read.
makes me wonder what kind of fanfics you have read. Although if you were used to reading the edgy stuff, then it´s no wonder you feel lax in these aspects in comparison to that content.

>Still sticking a little closer isn't so bad and can have it's own fun... not t mention keeping you grounded.
yeah. However, I think that will be the most over the edge detour that this fic will have (I think). It´s just that I didn´t know any better but set up a series of detailed feelings of Celestia´s head while falling so it makes the twist less forced and more as a plot device for the next part. Not to mention that my objective was clear: Celestia transforming into what she had feared before.

>Oh, I hope I can find one of the early hits that completely went off the rails.
like Fluttershy would say: "Oh...oh dear"

>there is one in particular that shows how much the fandom has matured
what year does it come from?

>>2721
>As I said just let it flow and see where it goes. I think it's almost more fun that way anyway.
Pinkie wants fun...yeah, we´ll have fun. It will flow and the works you have praised the most went into that route. I "might" have a few ideas rotating out there in my mind yet I´ll have to find the way to introduce them or even apply decently.

To sum up: Let´s see because the ride won´t end here. Just that the bridges haven´t been built yet.

even if one forgets about the origins and detours from literally anything,it's never too late to give back what they offered in the first place without much in exchange.

So it means that I can praise the sun just with a proof of life shitpost today.

>>2743
>The sun deserves praise
>The sun deserves love
>The sun deserves admiration
>But there is a darker side
>Fire burns and it consumes.
>For Icarus wings were burned by it's heat.
>Her heat. You'd better stay back
<The heat is not forgiving of mistakes >>2777

>>2779
>The heat is not forgiving of mistakes >>2777
if you think that the sun is covering you for using her sister like that, you are very mistaken....or at least pretend to smile at you at first, when getting too close to it is indeed not very recommended.

So beware of how you (and I) are praising the sun.
Heliophilia is a very common practice in this fandom though.

>>2779
I think that´s the 1st picture of Nightmare Star posted on this thread. Those horns and purple jewelry surprisingly fit for the devil aesthetic.

>2780
an outsider shitposting...and I believe that it was Spike. I guess he wants to be the snowman this time around.

>>2727
>I am just basically acknowledging and admitting about that experience of mine, reflecting it in some way and entertain with these settings. Giving it a productive twist and make it OC material.
One of the best drives is experience. It is an intimate one and can be hard to translate the burden to certain personal observations, though I say it's a worthy effort.
is one I have considered as well, but is not a current focus

>ufff, that´s fucked up. I might have had obsessions about political stuff before but it never went into that direction of feeling so claustrophobic and alone relatively speaking until that event. You feel sucked into the void and betrayed to what you had believed before, breaking the columns you had cemented. All that chaos and rebuilding process leads to those symptoms that not many people would handle that well.
I may go more into later, but yeah didn't handle it well at all. I'm mixed into how much is me and how much was my environment and how serve but close ones to me swear that I was pretty insane for awhile well that description sure gives some interesting thought to one's head doesn't it?

>One must feel fortunate and proud to not have fallen into more stupid and over the edge decisions because of that and the lesson is that if you have survived to those experiences, barely anything else will challenge you as hard as that.
Agreed. One that haunts you strongly too...

>>2728
>this sparks an idea of writing a story about Daybreaker acting as the cute/nice side and Celestia as the tyrannic side....or at least draw a pic of putting both sides conflicted in a reverse world.
That sounds fun.

>I get what you mean. It´s that I was worried about stepping too much into the zone for its own good. Like trying to convey that dark feel without giving unnecessary tense vibes that escalate extremely into cliched edgy stories.
Oh I fully understand that. I seen plenty fics go this route that are considered even pretty good that I consider go far into edge territory to the point I have to roll my eyes.(Twilight has some point about balancing both sides rather than being blindly pro harmony, but is Celestia really that bad? You can be cool without being emo too... and she found out that Shining Armour is adopted so inscest is okay This fic I'm referencing is actually is/was pretty popular for awhile ) But one of the things that guards you against that is that is not an expression of rebellion with Daybreaker being your emotional outlet, but a state that you were from a unpleasant and traumatic one. Not saying there still couldn't be stuff to guard for but that this is a lower risk for the worst edge I see.

>yeah, I think you are trying to ask about that mirror part, like revealing herself for something that has styed hidden all the time.
My thoughts were specifically over that Celestia had burried certain aspects of herself so deep that it was not the best for her, yet indulgences were something that would hurt her image and is in the "prison" of princesshood. This was spurred by some of her lines of missing lava and heat and whatnot. Though it depends if you intended heat to be part of her nature or just a system of corruption.

>>2793
They do. Doesn't clash yet one would think such would be a system of an overdesigned OC.

Speaking of Nightmare Star, I wonder what a clash with Daybreaker would be like? Though I need to see what (if) any offical description hints at, just looking at her fanart gives a more manipulative, more cunning vibe than Daybreaker.

>>2780
Celestia would accept the offering but I think with the pair of personalities that are here right now you budded in at the wrong time buddy.

>>2807
Than again it could just go like pic related...

>>2806
>One of the best drives is experience. It is an intimate one and can be hard to translate the burden to certain personal observations, though I say it's a worthy effort.
if it´s well combined, trust me it can be pretty effective for what you want to transmit and at the same time, play with what you know from the past. In science, not only you have to experiment things but also observe and interpret phenomenons that while not seeing for yourself, theorize why they happen (implications and observations that you have in the text related to it).
I suppose that method of interpreting while telling actual events can offer a great mix for a story. And like I said before, I don´t want to look like an absolute loser with the story and deliver a fair proportion of entertainment value in it.

>is one I have considered as well, but is not a current focus
well, at least, it´s there as another technique to apply. Who knows for what it could be useful?

>I'm mixed into how much is me and how much was my environment and how serve but close ones to me swear that I was pretty insane for awhile well that description sure gives some interesting thought to one's head doesn't it?
uh oh, that doesn´t sound good at all nor the backstory that one could imagine about it.

>One that haunts you strongly too...
it haunts me because it´s politics and I promised myself not to fall into that lack of mind control again with this topic. I have to deal with them every day yet they have served me to learn a few valuable things as well.In the end, that paranoia was the wake up slap that I needed in order to establish a solid mind for anything. I just wish I had those illusions but it seems that I am finding certain pleasant things along the way even without that innocence.

>That sounds fun.
indeed.
>I seen plenty fics go this route that are considered even pretty good that I consider go far into edge territory to the point I have to roll my eyes.
yeah but even if they are praised, I know what kind of cliches I can expect from there and using them again without any layer added into them, it´s just not worth it to repeat them.

>You can be cool without being emo too...
that´s what kids and teens forgot in the 90s and the 00s.

>This fic I'm referencing is actually is/was pretty popular for awhile
popular in 2013 or so? I wouldn´t be surprised.

>one of the things that guards you against that is that is not an expression of rebellion with Daybreaker being your emotional outlet, but a state that you were from a unpleasant and traumatic one.
it can perfectly be used as an emotional outlet. However, Daybreaker is a means to an end despite her dark appearance that induces a bit of edge,let´s not forget that she is the result from the mind of a good will character and in the end, Celestia will have to fix it. The edge if anything has been there from the beginning and it´s her own mind. If anything, the constant changes in her own head transmit worse feelings than the transformation itself.

>>2806
>yet indulgences were something that would hurt her image and is in the "prison" of princesshood.
and that was the plot device for the story, how to introduce the inner conflict. That and writing it while I was tired after having a lab session on Friday afternoon in September.

>This was spurred by some of her lines of missing lava and heat and whatnot. Though it depends if you intended heat to be part of her nature or just a system of corruption.
a little bit of both honestly, because both things remind her of her past (in the comics, Legends of Magic has a page in which the pony of shadows explains that both alicorns were powerful tools of destruction) and the element of Daybreaker: fire. Those were subtle descriptions that I wrote ambiguously just to put it clear for the viewer. Either way, they lead to the character that I wanted to introduce without using fake-deep backstories nor awkward transitions in personality.

>>2807
>Doesn't clash yet one would think such would be a system of an overdesigned OC.
it´s still hard to believe that both have been designed by Hasbro/DHX for the cards and the show. In 2011, one would have implied that this would be the perfect OC to have wet dreams for a little girls show around that time.

>just looking at her fanart gives a more manipulative, more cunning vibe than Daybreaker.
it feels like that. In fact, i thought about posting this picture as well >>2813. The big anime eyes and smile coming from Daybreaker makes you think that we have the playful version of the two. So yeah, it almost looks like Nightmare Star would act pretty coldly and would have applied an evil plan like Cozy Glow in the show.

Daybreaker at least, wants a bit of time for having a laugh for her own pleasure, messing up a bit and keep a smug face when she is in front her enemy. The non canon character however would hardly laugh and if she did, it would mean a sign of victory for her and a message of doom for the heroes.

try not to marry her.....

Hail, Celestia, in the reign of the neo-3000 /endpone/ era.

I like this one a lot, though with only slight adjustments it could look pretty creepy with those swan eyes.

This one looks odd and a little wonky, just a little.

Let's see if the sisters can do it.

>>3055
now that´s some dedication for the 1st place. However, the /end/ has decided that it would stop the time for the top boards and keep the PPH and user numbers static. They are back again now that I am posting though, how fitting.

I love:>>3032, >>3036, >>3038, >>3042, >>3044,>>3045,>>3048, >>3049, >>3052 and >>3054

Like: the rest except this one >>3040. It´s asking for an edit or something. I would love this one >>3035 if that water mark disappeared and became a small signature instead.

>>3048
it could look creepy but damn, I have loved that picture since it appeared on Derpi.

>>3052
>This one looks odd and a little wonky, just a little.
yeah mostly because of the legs. The rest looks fine and detailed, especially if you watch the thumbnail.

>>3532
glitchlestia

>>3552
A E S T H E T I C

even though it´s her sister...

Hail princess of the sun!

>>3565
and her A E S T H E T I C sister!

TBH if the whole thing with the princesses is played strait and not a ruse I will certainly be pushing a pair of royal sisters hard this year.

>>3676
I couldn´t find A E S T H E T I C pictures of Celestia out there and I am not familiar with editions of that style.

>>3677
we will see but I think that their legacy will remain mostly untouched despite the future events. I still owe a small thing to a certain princess that will see the light....maybe someday...

>>3685
Well there is a picture of Celestia by the same artist in the same style. Unless I'm interpreting something wrong.

>>3689
I thought I hadn´t posted that image before. The artist does draw similar faces and as soon as you see the faces in his latest artworks, it feel like you have seen the rest.

>>3690
That's an interesting take. Never thought of it that way.
I still like the guy very much for his (for a lack of better word) abstract art style

>>3692
Wait, are you talking about Alumx or Vird-gi? I weren't confused before, but I certainly am confused now